Nikon Zf: Good enough for Birding? Nikon Zf with 180 to 600 Z
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- Опубликовано: 1 янв 2024
- In this episode I take out the Nikon Zf with the affordable and fantastic Nikon 180 to 600 f5.6 to 6.3 lens. Are they good enough for bird photography and wildlife? Are they not? What are the weaknesses and what are the strengths? Watch it to find out!
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In this episode I take out the Nikon Zf with the affordable and fantastic Nikon 180 to 600 f5.6 to 6.3 lens. Are they good enough for bird photography and wildlife? Are they not? What are the weaknesses and what are the strengths? Watch it to find out!
Thank you Frames for the work you put in, and some nice demonstrations of the AF on the Zf.
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Just the content I wanted. I have the 180-600 using on my Z50 but I need more.... The Z8 is too expensive. The ZF looks great, but I have big hands and will need the grip. Thanks for posting. Regards from Australia.
Happy to help!
This cameras features versus its much more costly stablemates and other competitors can be argued about for ever but what can't not be denied is that its lower cost lets the buyer get more gear to round out his/her kit. If you have gotten use to the form of dlsr cameras that have been loaded up with buttons and features to compete in a saturated market you will likely complain about ergos and lack of certain buttons. I feel the simplicity of controls makes it easier to become effective with this tool. You can get use to the ZF in short order. A birder who goes to the field with a ZF is no less of a photographer than some one with a Z9, he/she could be the photographer that has separated out his wants from his needs.
This video was very much importent for us. Jio.
A big thanks from me.
Brilliant video. Am interested in this camera and your video was a comprehensible review. Well done👍
Oh thank you Richard!
Well done thank you
Great Informative Video bhaiya!💯
For me, the ergonomics would be fine because I have small hands. Thank you so much for this video! I really needed this information to help make a decision.
Excellent video! Answered many questions I had about this combo… think it’s time to ditch my Fuji 🤔
Good informative observations, thanks for the info! Agreed, IMO the biggest missing pieces for wildlife / action (aside from modern ergos) are 1 - at least one more function button (although we have Fn1 / Fn2 on a few Z lenses) and 2 - Recall Shooting Functions (Z8/9). The latter being an absolute game-changer in terms of shooting fast action.
That aside, knowing that the retro-styled Zf can actually manage well in this very demanding genre, is still very impressive! It really is an amazing all-arounder.
Yes and therefore it is God signs for times to come
I was afraid you would confirm this camera and lens combo. Now, I want this lens even more.
brother. can you make a video. nikon (200-500mm) lens in zf body
Thankyou so much with the Zf camera content you have been posting recently. I just bought the Nikon Zf with 70 200 f2.8 myself and been trying to capture photos. Honestly I'm unable to understand which Auto focus area mode and Focus mode you have used to acheive the brillant focus on the birds eye. I tried to understand this and searched for any video which can explain, but din't find any. I request you to please emphasise on this topic by making a whole new video with practical field explanation of all the focus modes with Nikon Zf camera on how to select the modes to get the best results.
Thankyou for your time and content.
Cool
For any tracking you must be in 'Auto Area-AF', then you can select people or birds etc., in the AF section of the menu.
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Definitely check out Steve Perry's channel, he goes into great detail on how to set up Z cameras for birding / wildlife. Many people prefer the hand-off approach - starting out in the largest C1 / C2 custom box, with bird / animal subject detection on. Once the camera acquires the target (eye or head, for example), you then switch over to 3D Tracking via a customized button. I set up the AF-ON button to initiate 3D Tracking + AF-ON, some others prefer Fn1 or Fn2, or a lens Fn button.
I just ordered the zf camera with the 40mm f2,
Selling my Fuji gear.
I still have the d4, d500, d700, 200-500mm loads of nikon lenses, i haven't decided to sell yet, ill wait for the zf to arrive and see how i get on with it... brilliantly video thanks and i subscribed 😊
Did you get it yet?
Yes, it is an amazing camera!
I'm still undecided on lens yet,
I have the 40mm and an FTZ ll adapter for AF-S lenses.
I never had a doubt that the Z f can do wildlife. The question is, how long can you shoot with that setup before tiring when compared to a Z9 or a Z8? I think this is mostly what people mean when they ponder on whether the Z f is suitable for wildlife.
I've been birding with the Zfc quite a bit lately. The lens becomes how you handle it. I have Peak Design clip that I clip the lens to on my backpack so I don't have to hold it all the time. The only issue I found is sometimes my thumb gets confused between the comp and command dial with gloves on and the batt is small when driving the bigger lenses.
Excellent
Thank you
Thanks for the great video. Is there a small ply (rotation ) between the lens and the body?
Not on the Zf. It’s there on the Z8 with some lenses. Very minor. It is also there on the Z6II
Thanks @@FramesTM
I would recommend a pistol grip for the ZF. Works wonders for me. Regardless of any brand, objectively the ZF Offers the best value in the $2K price bracket. That popular cherub Jonah Hill wedding photographer from Canada recommends the ZF as well, he vouches for the camera's excellence
Jonah hill wedding photographer haha
Canon R6ii is much better than zf in terms of tech and was releazed almost two years ago right now... Faster sensor readout, better AF for birds... No contest
@@romainplagnol882 geez...Canon? Lol..well we can ask Frames about it since he is a Canon user too
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The Nikon Z8 is also better than the ZF, but, unfortunately, it couldn't be used here as it was being used as a vlogging camera, the Canon R3 and the Sony A9iii are also better than the Zf, but unfortunately, they were being used here for B roll.
Great video, one question, which AF combination is the best.
I tried, but the camera struggled a bit to focus.
Could you help me?
Thanks and congratulations again
Will do a video on it
Many Thanks 🙏🏻
Nice to see the ZF capabilities but the lack of function buttons to change focus areas, metering mode & ISO simultaneously is a real issue for Zfc & Zf.
Can you please do the same thing with the Z50+180-600mm ? I think it will do good with Dynamic Area & Wide Area Small.
Most of the wildlife videos on youtube about Z50 is with an FTZ adapter even version 1. So it hampered the autofocus a lot.
An APSC 2nd body is very much a need. Because a 2nd FF body becomes expensive & Nikon will most probably bring out the Z6iii next at around 1.9L just under the A7iv.
Canon have their R7/R10, Sony A6600/6700/6400/6100.
I am planning to buy an APSC body as a backup to Z8 for a 70-200 f2.8. But it has to handle Action scenes like a cheetah hunt or a leopard jumping down from a tree with atleast Dynamic Area AF like in DSLRs. I don't need the tracking like Z8 as it would be expensive.
My current choices are Sony A6700+ Sigma 70-200 f2.8 & Nikon Z50+Z 70-200 f2.8.
I am worried about the focus accuracy of the Z50 even with dynamic area & wide area small.
Thank You 🙏🏽
Hope you reach 10k subscribers even by mid 2024.
Thank you for your wishes and a great idea there… will try replicating this with the Z50. Happy new year!
@@FramesTM perhaps also the Z30 if possible (I currently use the Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 200-500mm f/5.6E ED VR on my Z30 but would like a faster, les nosier autofocus)
Thank you very much for the fantastic review. I am unable to decide among the three (Z6ii, Zf and Z8), which one is best suited for wildlife. For now, I will be using it with Nikon 200-500. Please let me know your opinion.
Go for the 180 to 600. It’s just 1.3. Then wait for the Z6iii. It will be about 2. Z8 is 3.2. Sell off the 200-500 for 50k minimum. So Z6III+180to600 will be: 2+1.3+.10(for cards)-.50= 2.9lakhs. Z8 is 3.2 lakhs.
@@FramesTM Great !! Thank you so much for the good advice 😃
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thanks so much, right now i ahve the z100-400 mm f5.6 with the z50, i feel the camera is not getting the best out of the lens, want a body with high MP but sure not z8 or 9 they are out of reach. maybe the rumored z6 III will be 33Mp and has costum buttons, as you mention they are very useful.
Yes let’s see how’s the Z6iii
Would you prefer the Zf or XT5 for Wildlife? I'm on the fence currently.
Definitely Zf. No doubt about it
Is its AF better than 5 year old Sony a7iii or a7c? I think nikon is only lacking in their lower end camera AF, but after ZF, what is your opinion compared to Sony lower models.
It’s comparable or better than A7IV and result better than R6II
@@FramesTMsome people who own a7iv and z8 still think the z8 AF lacks behind the a7iv AF in certain situations so I don't think the zf AF is better than a7iv tbh..
Result ? and what about your review ? is is perfect for wildlife ?
Watch the review
Wow
I bird on the Zfc and Z6 I all the time!
We see the birds so you can shoot birds. Ergonomic is another thing.
With mirrorless smaller bodies, I have z50… I switched how I handle the rig. All weight shifts to left hand leaving right hand free. My left forearm has gotten a lot stronger because of this (I’m right handed). I now use the right hand for precision and firing the camera. I no longer grip camera tight!!!😊
Keep in mind the Z f, like the Z 8 only supports animal detection unlike the Z 9 that has a specific bird mode.
What this means is if the deep learning was say trained on 1000 animals photos, birds might only make up 10% of that learning. The Z 9 if 1000 images were used to train bird detection should do a lot better. The Z 8 scans the sensor 120 times per second and does AF calculations at that rate. The Z f is unspecified, but it’s not a stacked sensor so it can’t be as fast. However, it’s certainly good enough. If you want the best bird AF it’s got to be a Z 9.
Now as for a general wildlife camera goes, wildlife is less challenging than birding.
So true! It’s the ultimate autofocus test
Firstly🎉!!!!
But of course it capable….why because we are PHOTOGRAPHERS!!
Enjoy!
Human watchers are called perverts, but bird watchers are called ornithologists
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you have all the professional gears but your video output is not up to the mark CG is below average and there are grains ( 06:30 ) in the picture which you have shared in between the videos
Listen, I didnt ask you to be a critic. But you can be when you share better work done by you with link to the work for all of us to see. I will be waiting, until then learn from my videos. Don't give me Gyan.
A suggestion. Try to remove some of the crap details in the viewfinder that clutter the evf. It was very therapeutic to clean it up and just have nothing but the most key items
No offense bro but the pics u took are really not ideal better if you coul use a small soft toy and use that next time