Who is Daniel Chase to criticize anybody. This guy makes excuses for every white QB. Burrow is good, with the chance to be great, Allen is good with the chance to be great. Lamar is Great and if the Referees(who work for Mahomes) make it a even playing field, he will Win a SB
The whole Lamar is treated unfairly narrative is getting old man the dude is a unanimous MVP & is already seen as a all time great regular season player
@@EAFC02why lie ? Hollywood has had 1 thousand yard season and that was only with Lamar … besides him who else have they given Lamar ? Bateman can’t stay healthy that’s not on Lamar oh and let’s not forget he led the league in 2019 in passing TDs , multiple perfect passer rated games and actually WATCH the games he’s not a run first QB he’s on a run first TEAM which has been their identity since they became a team in 96 please do your research
Ravens fan here: quit disparaging greatness! Both QBs are great and although only one wins on Sunday, it doesn't stop the other from being great. Where are the real points people should care about? Ravens rushing game vs bengals rush defense. Burrow Chase and Higgins vs ravens secondary. Lamar & company vs bengals seondary. Is this not what fans want to hear about?
I disagree burrow and Lamar r not great but good. They haven't guided their teams to superbowls. Mahomes and Aaron r great and many older quarterbacks.
@@neutral6941 I appreciate the semantics but your argument falls flat. Who is better Joe Flacco or Lamar Jackson? Joe Flacco or Joe Burrow? Your answer will either show your bias or it will show acknowledgement that your assement is wrong. Either way, both Jackson and Burrow are great, not a question or debate worthy. To say they are anything less than great is asinine.
@@Ihiymeh yep. But burrow has made it farther than both Lamar and Allen. Burrows defense is failing him but I know for a fact that this year statistically he is doing better than Lamar through 4 games by over 100 yards, 2 more tds, higher pass percentage on more attempts , higher QB rating, more first down, his season long is longer but his defense is losing it for him. Burrow played one full season and he went to the Superbowl. Lamar isn't playing on burrows level right now statistically
Allen is a better QB than Lamar but Ravens are a better team, Stafford is better than Goff but Goff has the much better team. Two things can be true, Lamar has a 75% win rate in the regular season but falls short in the playoffs too often.
@@AilmanF2PJosh Allen falls short in the playoffs. Lamar went further than Allen has been in 4 years. But you’re gonna say Allen loses causes of his team. But Lamar only wins cause of his team and they only lose in the playoffs cause of him. Right.
The way this entire cast flip flopped since the Bills game results 😂 LJ been gr8 and they've all been trying to slander at every opportunity dont swith now
Lamar does have a better team rn, but even with that Lamar way better himself. Lamar been throwing to mid receivers whole career and being a one man offense, even tho ravens D excellent
Monday narrative “How does Joe borrow losing to yet again to his father Lamar Jackson still keeps him above him because of that one superbowl he made 4 years ago”
Its Burrow's accuracy that has set him apart! Josh Allen has never been as accurate as he has so far this season! But if the Bengals lose again to the Ravens, it's sounding a little ridiculous.
@@tammyboon6259what individual awards does Joe have? Because we're not doing QB versus QB since they don't play against each other. What about individually.
Lamar is 4-1 against Joe borrow. And the bengals only make the playoffs or win the division the year Lamar is hurt. If Lamar beats Borrow this Sunday he would be beating Josh Allen and Joe borrow the 2 guys yall been trying to put over him on back to back weeek.
@@antoniokehoe2363oh so now it doesn’t matter. So what legacy does Joe borrow has if he can’t hang that “he beat Mahommes in the playoffs” bannner and Josh Allen “he almost beat Patrick Mahommes if it wasn’t for the defense” banner?
Lamar 4 wins vs Burrow 2 his rookie year 2 last year one game Joe was dealing with the calf the second Joe got hurt throwing a TD to put Bengals up numbers can fool ya
Saying Burrow is Pluto seems like an overreaction but everyone’s entitled to their opinion, you can give Lamar is flowers while also acknowledging Burrow is still a Franchise QB
By having 2 good years out of 5? N even those 2 years he wasn’t the best QB in his division it was Lamar! Burrow benefited from Lamar being injured since the Ravens were in 1-2 seed each time he got injured n Bengals weren’t even in the playoff hunt until he went down
@@made_u_LookTV I’d happen to agree with you, but even if you think Lamar is better and more accomplished, he’s still on the same level. They’ve each dealt with injuries, each made it to championship games/had playoff successes and failures. To use their analogy, if Lamar is Mercury, it’s crazy to me to say Burrow is Pluto, It’s not that far apart.
I'm a Ravens fan. I am, on one hand praying on their downfall, but that's just AFC north beef not beef in general. Burrow is a great QB, no matter whether he's as good as Lamar or not.
What are you talking about!?? No one prays on their downfall, they ALWAYS GIVING THEM THE BENEFIT OF DOUBT AND PICKING THEM TO WIN THE DIVISION!!! They don't show up and their record over the years proves it!! How about they win and give ppl a different energy and perspective!
Nobody’s was saying this when Lamar was throwing to Seth Robert’s and Willie Snead?? But y’all wanna cape for Josh Allen for the same thing & Joe Burrow who has ELITE WEAPONS
@@illumenati3872not an Allen fan but he led the NFL's top offense through the first three weeks.. statistically speaking, he is top 3 in most major QB metrics. So to say he's average is a bald face lie
@@kevinevans8892 all these stats and no MVPs or first teams 🤐 all while having a top elite wideout but I understand you would leave out the fact that before diggs he was average just like I stated. Stop the propaganda. #8 has been doing it without elites to help in the clutch like everyone else has had in the history of the game
@@jakebrown7536Josh Allen has had top 5-10 defenses past few years stop the 🧢 Burrow n bengals have a decent to good defense with high sacks n TOs… oh n the Ravens have a bottom 5 pass defense so there’s that… great run defense n holding opponents to FGs compared to TDs but they have avg DBs that get burnt entirely too much n too many penalties
@@jakebrown7536defense doesn’t help a qb win MVP. And when the defense ranked 20th, Lamar still took the team to the playoffs. No more excuses for Burrow
@@Aaron-fo1sy Mixon has been a top 5-10 RB the whole time Burrow been in the league tf is u talking bout like seriously? Lamar has been the Ravens leading rusher since his rookie year.
It's only because they looked incredibly stupid before the Bills game. They learned their lesson saying these other QB's are better. So now they watch their mouth.
Y’all that as if his wrs wasn’t drafted to the bengals. It’s not fault that we know how to draft WRs tell the ravens to draft better then talk. No Elite QB has won anything without elite wrs besides mahomes and Brady so that logic is dumb to me
@@coreystephens3003TF you yapping bout? Nobody said it's Burrow fault. You clearly missed the point. Lamar hasn't had one single top WR. Burrow has 2. Simple. All that extra crying you doing lol
Lamar has an it factor that Joe doesn’t have. Joe’s a great QB, but man, I’m with Tom Brady on calling Lamar “The Eraser.” There’s so many times it should be a negative play, that somehow he turns into a positive play. He erases bad plays from existing. A defense can do everything perfectly, and Lamar still beats them
Well this is it. The worst take I read on the internet today. Burrow doesn’t have the “it” factor. Dude took a 2-14 team to the superbowl his first full season. The joe burrow hate is outrageous
Lamar beat the Joe burrow in a head to head battle and watch how they discredit what Lamar Jackson did . He played as a elite QB and got them back in the game despite the turnovers. But of course all they will do is talk about how the Bengals lost the game and discredit the ravens
@@tammyboon6259so do teams win because of the qb or do they have to have a great team? If your answer says that Burrow needs a great team, then it means he’s not the 2nd best qb in the league.
@@tammyboon6259my only pushback is when Lamar only consistent piece on offense was mark andrews they berated Lamar n said he has to get it done with what hes got n has no excuse yet they’ll make that same excuse for joe josh Herbert previously lawrence it’s hypocritical
Also have to take into account Lamar has had 20+ All Pro/Pro Bowlers around him and Joe has had maybe 4-5…so that does count. They always leave that out! Joe has been more successful with less considering they have BOTH missed about the same number of games throughout their careers so far….I think if you switch the two players around you might better results with one and less results with the other. 🤷🏾♂️
@jeremywendell5501 long ways? Lol they were just facing them in Championship 😂. That long way will be Jan again. And highly likely will be VERY different
you realize the Bengals are one of the best offenses statistically this year? Our o-line has the best pressure rates of any other team in the league. Burrow is top 5 in many passing categories. What are you talking about?
@@brandonmartin244 so what lol he is good the point was he is NOT lamar jackson when you look at the accolades and it is not remotely close. Just facts thats it
Honestly all them dudes are elite and good quarterbacks. And who you want with the ball with two minutes left is your preference. Shady made good point. Different teams play the game and win games differently. Remember this about Lamar , He doesn’t have Andy Reid and Kelce He doesn’t have Jamar Chase and Tee Higgins with an offensive play caller for a head coach.
Shady I felt the same way when I seen the video. I said to myself, “My QB is so dang focused. The type of leader he is man, I love it.” All we need to do is be ourselves and play our game and we really can get this done. Let’s see if we can keep it up against these Bengals.
I forgot that burrow who’s putting up better stats and is playing better but defense sucks, makes burrow suck. 😂😂😂 it’s so laughable. How do these clowns have a job
I'm definitely not going to argue w/ the fact that Pat isn't playing as well, meaning far more TOs than typical! But it does seem due to them winning the SB last year after not having a great season, he is being given more grace & also due their defense they've been able to keep win! Most sports pundits haven't included Pat in their discussions.
buddy. pat is light years ahead of lamar. lamar can’t even make a damn super bowl. matter of fact took him 7 years to make one afc championship just to lose to PAT yall gotta stop with this nonsense lmao
@osvaldoespino1950 you have the reading comprehension of a toddler. Did I say Lamar was better than pat? You're the type the shouldn't even be allowed to use the internet.🧡
@@osvaldoespino1950 u have the reading comprehension of a 6 year old. Where did i say Lamar was better than Pat? U shouldn't be allowed to use the internet.🧡
QB Tiers Tier 1: Mahomes Tier 2: Josh Allen Lamar Jackson Aaron Rodgers Tier 3: Justin Herbert Joe Burrow Jared Goff Brock Purdy CJ Stroud Tier 4: Dak Prescott Jordan Love Jalen Hurts Matt Stafford Baker Mayfield Geno Smith Tier 5: Tua Kyler Trevor Lawrence Derrick Carr Sam Darnold Tier 6: The Rest (Rookies not included in tiers)
You have Roger’s? This list is null just because of the. Everyone in there 3 is better and even some in your 5. Baker is better than Aaron. I believe his stats are worse than everyone unless tier 6
With all due respect, when the best of the best is in one conference, the other conference just doesn’t have the same outlook. You have to go through The Chiefs to get to the bowl in the AFC. In the NFC, it’s like who ever makes it, makes it, it’s year to year seemingly. All the recent dynasties have been in the AFC, so if a team can breakthrough and win a chip from that conference, it’s super noteworthy.
One is a 2x mvp who’s led the league in multiple QB categories! And the other made it to the chip and loss and still gets praised for it. Pull up the stats bucko!
Just make sure you apologize when Joe takes the Bengals further than the Ravens. Half their defensive line is coming back from injury and the new role players on offense are just coming on
@@MATTthaGMAN01. They most certainly are going to. lol. You clearly arent paying attention to the new Scheme! Just think two TE sets and we will leave it at that! oh yeah. Erik All Jr., remember that name!
Joe still has the highest completion percentage in NFL history, and his team has scored 34 and 33 points in the last 2 weeks. Joe is definitely on Lamar's level.
So now Lamar is "available". I agree his legs make him seem better but when the corners and safeties are worried about runs and lbs have to respect play actions, it's a lot easier to pass the ball.
Did they forget last year's game against the Chiefs? Lamar was horrible in the most important game he has ever played..what big game has Lamar ever won?
@@skenodaboss6104 most chiefs fan would agree. Bengals game always come down to final possession. Ravens games do not. 1st game this season was luck... ravens lucky bolton let the te score on the long td down the sideline, that nvr happens, was beating ravens pretty soundly most the game... like most the games vs ravens.
@@KamauTheQuietWaryayou're spot on. I have virtually no confidence Baltimore would've defeated the Chiefs in the playoffs last year. I wasn't surprised at all.
Exactly when burrow and mahomes play we know it’s going to be a one score game. it feels like the two best qbs are going up against each other. unlike when mahomes plays lamar where he’s 5-1 against him burrow been better just an injury seemed to make everyone forget how good he rlly is
Burrow was carried by the defense in that fluke sb run and other playoff wins, but when he loses it's Joe Burrow doesn't have a good team 😂 can't have it both ways
right!? like why is always KC getting the key flag? you know they want to say hey look at how many penalties they call on the chiefs. Well sure they have to cover up somehow but its clear that the calls we are talking about are always the ones that are game sealing.
But Burrow wasn't able to close it out, even though the opportunities were there. Also, these game-altering penalties are not the refs giving the games away; they are signs of an undisciplined team who can't perform at crucial moments.
Burrow is a better quarterback than Lamar. They just aren't on superbowl teams and Burrow gets hurt alot more than Lamar. Burrow has beaten the chiefs and mahomes and Lamar hasn't.
@@hybrid8557facts. Never has one dudes entire reputation been carried by one game in which he didn’t even play that well. Burrow still hasn’t scored 30 or thrown a TD in the 4th quarter in his playoff career and we’re supposed to act like he’s “Joe Cool”. The real Joe Cool was 4-0 in SBs with 11 TDs and 0 INTs. What a joke.
@@made_u_LookTV look on espn stat for stat and tell me if burrow not on Lamar level.. yall just say anything but the numbers will tell you otherwise and with this take basically you’re saying Sam darnold better than Lamar
@@made_u_LookTV right now we have a top 5 offense what are you saying and burrow is top5 in every category besides passing yards because of week one when both TE sold him
he made it to 1 super bowl one year and the year after that to an afc championship. not just one run. and yall acting like this was ages ago this was literally only 2 years ago burrow shows what lamar can’t do and that’s win in the playoffs lmao
Good thing we're talking about week 5 lol but you're lying to yourself if you say that the Bengals defense wasn't the biggest factor of that super bowl run. Burrows stats are similar to Kirk Cousins in the playoffs. Meh.
@@neighborhoodmingo5449 Mahomes had hindered several top QBs in the AFC from getting to Super Bowls. Whereas the NFC doesn't have that type of figure so it's more up in the air. Yes, Burrow beat Mahomes in the playoffs, something that's very difficult to do. I'm not going to try to take that away from him, but how can he continue to live off of that one super bowl run when everything else has been pretty mediocre
@@anthonykelly6524 honestly I thought Mixon was washed for the last couple years. He seemed pretty below average. Especially in terms of ypc and such, even when defenses were constantly forced to play in two high shells
Is Burrow on Lamar level?? Are you serious? You should be asking is Lamar on Burrows level. Lamar should not have been the MVP last year. Dak Prescott was the league MVP last year not Lamar Jackson. And Lamar has elite weapons. He has an elite RB and an elite TE and an elite LT and and elite center and a borderline elite WR is Zay Flowers. Burrow has 1 elite weapon in Jamar Chase. Tee Higgins is borderline elite. Name any other elite players on the Bengals offense. There aren’t any. I think Burrow is a WAY better QB than Lamar jackson is.
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Usually feel like acho talks down on Lamar but he was speaking facts here. Ppl are talking like the run game carries Lamar, when in reality Lamar is THE reason the run game is so effective. Yes Derrick Henry is an all time talent, but he was not doing this last year. Gus Edwards averaged 5 ypc with lamar, averaging only 3 with the chargers.
7:59 - 8:16 - 8:47 D@mn he got me too on that one. I made the same misconception at first glance. That was a sneaky thought experiment. Kudos guy✅👍🏾 7:59 - 9:01 solid point
Thing is James is right. And Lamar keeps getting better and staying healthy. The way it's looking the North is a 2-way race. And Bengals is fighting for 3rd. Lamar is the 2nd best QB right now he's been proving it since last year. And he just proved it.
I'm not a Packers nor Jets fan. Here's something to think about: The only time Aaron Rodgers had a top ten defense in his career is the year he won a chip. Garrett Wilson of the Jets is the first receiver Rodgers has ever thrown a pass to that was drafted in this first round. Rodgers will be 41 years old this year.
Aint nobody worried about cincy this weekend! we running ALL over that flimsy front seven..and yo, D. Adams PLEASE come to Balto link with best tandem ever Lord Lamar Demeatrice Jackson and King Henrock! GO RAVENS FLOCK! 💪🏿🤜🏿👿🙏🏿 RIP Edgar Allen Poe...Tell-Tale Heart of a Raven!
I rock with burrow! I think him being a stationary qb is what’s hurting him because all the movie qb’s are rising more and more. Lamar is the truth doe. The send best qb in the league
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Who is Daniel Chase to criticize anybody. This guy makes excuses for every white QB. Burrow is good, with the chance to be great, Allen is good with the chance to be great. Lamar is Great and if the Referees(who work for Mahomes) make it a even playing field, he will Win a SB
@@Bossalini_Mack read better and pay attention..TF?
Y'all the biggest Lamar haters don't jump ship now stand on business u haters
Lamar wins they'll discredit it ....Burrow wins they will praise it ....Lets keep it 💯
The whole Lamar is treated unfairly narrative is getting old man the dude is a unanimous MVP & is already seen as a all time great regular season player
@@JohnSamuels-g1nyou’re an idiot, where have you been . I’m sure you’re on the same train
Bro lost to the raiders
Facts living off a AFC championship he won 3 years ago
@@JohnSamuels-g1nI 💯% agree!!! I've NEVER SEEN anyone out down Lamar!!! Their Coach at times when they've haven't run the ball!!!
Lamar never had a wr as good as Jamar Chase or Tee Higgins.
It’s not burrow fault we lucked up with to good wrs that got draft there
Lamar can’t elevate his receivers. He’s a run first qb on a run heavy team
@@EAFC02why lie ? Hollywood has had 1 thousand yard season and that was only with Lamar … besides him who else have they given Lamar ? Bateman can’t stay healthy that’s not on Lamar oh and let’s not forget he led the league in 2019 in passing TDs , multiple perfect passer rated games and actually WATCH the games he’s not a run first QB he’s on a run first TEAM which has been their identity since they became a team in 96 please do your research
@@EAFC02they’re one of the best teams in the nfl
Lamar never had a A+ WR. It just a Fact
Ravens fan here: quit disparaging greatness! Both QBs are great and although only one wins on Sunday, it doesn't stop the other from being great.
Where are the real points people should care about? Ravens rushing game vs bengals rush defense. Burrow Chase and Higgins vs ravens secondary. Lamar & company vs bengals seondary. Is this not what fans want to hear about?
thank you.
I disagree burrow and Lamar r not great but good. They haven't guided their teams to superbowls. Mahomes and Aaron r great and many older quarterbacks.
@@neutral6941 I appreciate the semantics but your argument falls flat. Who is better Joe Flacco or Lamar Jackson? Joe Flacco or Joe Burrow?
Your answer will either show your bias or it will show acknowledgement that your assement is wrong. Either way, both Jackson and Burrow are great, not a question or debate worthy. To say they are anything less than great is asinine.
THAT PART
Lamar owns the Bengals. 2 str8 weeks of perfect passer rating
It's crazy they make accolades matter against joe but not Allen . Weird
Exactly..
both have losing record against Lamar. No MVP's & have or had a Top WR#1
Media narratives…
@@joemenrollinsliterally 😂
@@Ihiymeh yep. But burrow has made it farther than both Lamar and Allen. Burrows defense is failing him but I know for a fact that this year statistically he is doing better than Lamar through 4 games by over 100 yards, 2 more tds, higher pass percentage on more attempts , higher QB rating, more first down, his season long is longer but his defense is losing it for him. Burrow played one full season and he went to the Superbowl. Lamar isn't playing on burrows level right now statistically
Why people can't understand the run game is cause of Lamar. Look at Jayden Daniels having the same effect with Washington run game.
Factssssss Lamar reason #1 rush yards his running ability open up lane
They don't want to understand it's narrative driven
Righttt
At least Daniel’s can a passer
@@JordanT3025 learn how to read and write hoe
These the same people that just picked Allen over Lamar smh they switch up constantly
Allen is a better QB than Lamar but Ravens are a better team, Stafford is better than Goff but Goff has the much better team. Two things can be true, Lamar has a 75% win rate in the regular season but falls short in the playoffs too often.
@@AilmanF2PThat's your opinion
I'm a Ravens and I agree with you. They trying jinx the ravens
@@AilmanF2PJosh Allen falls short in the playoffs. Lamar went further than Allen has been in 4 years. But you’re gonna say Allen loses causes of his team. But Lamar only wins cause of his team and they only lose in the playoffs cause of him. Right.
@@AilmanF2PJosh Allen is 1-4 when not in the wildcard
The way this entire cast flip flopped since the Bills game results 😂 LJ been gr8 and they've all been trying to slander at every opportunity dont swith now
You guys really sound like Beyoncé fans 😂. Bunch of male groupies.
Well losing to the raiders will do that.😂 it's understandable why people thought that. Nobody judging them from playing the chiefs.
The man with the glasses is 1 of the BIGGEST LJ haters there is
He was drafted by the Browns. His Ravens hatred goes way back
You peep how when bro asked him who QB2 was he said Lamar and then changed the subject cause he just said Allen last week 💀
@@joshuaokparaocha331 yea he straight agenda, like most of them
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Hahaha he will henceforth be referred to as that guy with glasses 😂😂😂
Chase Daniel can not bring himself to give Lamar Jackson credit! now it's Lamar has a better team 😂🤣
I don’t take him serious yo was dog 💩 at quarterback like why is he even on here
@@masonr5677 Exactly. He's definitely showing a bias towards certain people
exactly they always switch up on the ravens one minute they not picking the ravens next minute they are
Lamar does have a better team rn, but even with that Lamar way better himself. Lamar been throwing to mid receivers whole career and being a one man offense, even tho ravens D excellent
I mean.. that's just an objective fact. Bengals are bottom 5 in defense this year
Boy acho got analogy for everything 🤣
and they don’t be good
@@bo0gi3 7:28 ❤❤ 10:34
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@@bo0gi3😂😂
Spot on. He usually just confuses the conversation.
Monday narrative
“How does Joe borrow losing to yet again to his father Lamar Jackson still keeps him above him because of that one superbowl he made 4 years ago”
QBs don't play against each other. They play against defenses. Football is the ultimate team sport, this narrative of QB vs QB has got to stop
Its Burrow's accuracy that has set him apart! Josh Allen has never been as accurate as he has so far this season! But if the Bengals lose again to the Ravens, it's sounding a little ridiculous.
burrow 5-2 Lamar 2-4 playoff record 🤫
@@tammyboon6259what individual awards does Joe have? Because we're not doing QB versus QB since they don't play against each other. What about individually.
@@neighborhoodmingo5449Lamar is 60-21 and burrow is 25-30 both with zero rings please stop embarrassing yourself Lamar is also 4-1 vs him
Lamar is 4-1 against Joe borrow. And the bengals only make the playoffs or win the division the year Lamar is hurt. If Lamar beats Borrow this Sunday he would be beating Josh Allen and Joe borrow the 2 guys yall been trying to put over him on back to back weeek.
Lamar isn't beating other QBs.... They are playing against the defenses. QB vs QB narrative has got to stop
@@antoniokehoe2363oh so now it doesn’t matter. So what legacy does Joe borrow has if he can’t hang that “he beat Mahommes in the playoffs” bannner and Josh Allen “he almost beat Patrick Mahommes if it wasn’t for the defense” banner?
Lamar 4 wins vs Burrow 2 his rookie year 2 last year one game Joe was dealing with the calf the second Joe got hurt throwing a TD to put Bengals up numbers can fool ya
Lamar 2-4 burrow 5-2 playoff record 🤫
@@neighborhoodmingo5449hopefully bum burrow makes the playoffs this year 😅 I think they’re up to an astonishing 13% chance to make it 🤫
Saying Burrow is Pluto seems like an overreaction but everyone’s entitled to their opinion, you can give Lamar is flowers while also acknowledging Burrow is still a Franchise QB
By having 2 good years out of 5? N even those 2 years he wasn’t the best QB in his division it was Lamar! Burrow benefited from Lamar being injured since the Ravens were in 1-2 seed each time he got injured n Bengals weren’t even in the playoff hunt until he went down
@@made_u_LookTV I’d happen to agree with you, but even if you think Lamar is better and more accomplished, he’s still on the same level. They’ve each dealt with injuries, each made it to championship games/had playoff successes and failures. To use their analogy, if Lamar is Mercury, it’s crazy to me to say Burrow is Pluto, It’s not that far apart.
@@bradgrey798No, the difference is Lamar has never had elite weapons around him at the receiver position like Joe has.
@@made_u_LookTV he’s been hurt for those other years duhhh
@@coreystephens3003 my point exactly how can anyone be a top 5 QB n he’s only played 2 years of good football just 2
Keep that energy when he does start winning again. Everyone been praying on his and the Bengals fall.
Yeah, they hate the Brown family.
I'm a Ravens fan and Bengals going to the playoffs
I'm a Ravens fan. I am, on one hand praying on their downfall, but that's just AFC north beef not beef in general. Burrow is a great QB, no matter whether he's as good as Lamar or not.
He's 30-26-1....that's not elite
What are you talking about!?? No one prays on their downfall, they ALWAYS GIVING THEM THE BENEFIT OF DOUBT AND PICKING THEM TO WIN THE DIVISION!!! They don't show up and their record over the years proves it!! How about they win and give ppl a different energy and perspective!
Nobody’s was saying this when Lamar was throwing to Seth Robert’s and Willie Snead?? But y’all wanna cape for Josh Allen for the same thing & Joe Burrow who has ELITE WEAPONS
out of all 3 of them 2 have always had top notch defense play. A clue, not one of them is Burrow.
@@brandonmartin244 Burrow has had a good enough defense before.
@@bo0gi3 no he doesn’t 😂😂😂
@@Lsufan-20 ?
@@brandonmartin244 Burrow had a top 5 defense his Sb year + weapons
Give that combination to Lamar & he wins a Sb
Allen is not even on Lamar level
true, he's above it
@@CoelSOPASTLOCAL he was average before Stefon Diggs. Now he’s average after Stefon Diggs
@@CoelSOPASTLOCAL nah lmao Buffalo fans dumb as well
@@illumenati3872not an Allen fan but he led the NFL's top offense through the first three weeks.. statistically speaking, he is top 3 in most major QB metrics. So to say he's average is a bald face lie
@@kevinevans8892 all these stats and no MVPs or first teams 🤐 all while having a top elite wideout but I understand you would leave out the fact that before diggs he was average just like I stated. Stop the propaganda. #8 has been doing it without elites to help in the clutch like everyone else has had in the history of the game
LJ never had a Higgins, Chase or diggs or any top tier WR= 2mvp
But Lamar has had better defenses to support him
@@jakebrown7536Josh Allen has had top 5-10 defenses past few years stop the 🧢 Burrow n bengals have a decent to good defense with high sacks n TOs… oh n the Ravens have a bottom 5 pass defense so there’s that… great run defense n holding opponents to FGs compared to TDs but they have avg DBs that get burnt entirely too much n too many penalties
@@jakebrown7536defense doesn’t help a qb win MVP. And when the defense ranked 20th, Lamar still took the team to the playoffs. No more excuses for Burrow
And Burrow never had Lamar’s TE or defense or RBs.
@@Aaron-fo1sy Mixon has been a top 5-10 RB the whole time Burrow been in the league tf is u talking bout like seriously? Lamar has been the Ravens leading rusher since his rookie year.
Finally, you guys giving Lamar his props
It's called consistency
It's only because they looked incredibly stupid before the Bills game. They learned their lesson saying these other QB's are better. So now they watch their mouth.
It's fake love
I'm a Major Bengals fan and the one player I have feared for years has been Lamar. Huge skill and a major player
L jack owns burrow without an elite wideout
Y’all that as if his wrs wasn’t drafted to the bengals. It’s not fault that we know how to draft WRs tell the ravens to draft better then talk. No Elite QB has won anything without elite wrs besides mahomes and Brady so that logic is dumb to me
@@coreystephens3003 The front office is not Lamar’s job. Secondly, Tom Brady has had an elite receiver Every year he won the Super Bowl
Lamar 2-4 playoff record burrow 5-2 🤫
@@coreystephens3003TF you yapping bout? Nobody said it's Burrow fault. You clearly missed the point. Lamar hasn't had one single top WR. Burrow has 2. Simple. All that extra crying you doing lol
@@illumenati3872 he made some of his wrs into elite receivers
Lamar has an it factor that Joe doesn’t have. Joe’s a great QB, but man, I’m with Tom Brady on calling Lamar “The Eraser.” There’s so many times it should be a negative play, that somehow he turns into a positive play. He erases bad plays from existing. A defense can do everything perfectly, and Lamar still beats them
and you think the Burrow has no IT factor! Well I guess the IT factor has no impact on IF your going to a SB.
Well this is it. The worst take I read on the internet today. Burrow doesn’t have the “it” factor. Dude took a 2-14 team to the superbowl his first full season. The joe burrow hate is outrageous
Lamar beat the Joe burrow in a head to head battle and watch how they discredit what Lamar Jackson did . He played as a elite QB and got them back in the game despite the turnovers. But of course all they will do is talk about how the Bengals lost the game and discredit the ravens
It is so ironic that quite literally everything about Josh Allen and the Bills last week just transferred to Lamar and the Ravens. Lmao
That’s wassup
This is the 1st show to have this specific comparison while keeping it 💯
A lot of people not used to this type of honesty
Why does it have to be that Burrow doesn’t have a good team around him?????
Cause both the Ravens & the Chiefs have a great defense!!!! The one negativity that has been said of Burrow is he's injury prone!
@@tammyboon6259so do teams win because of the qb or do they have to have a great team? If your answer says that Burrow needs a great team, then it means he’s not the 2nd best qb in the league.
@@tammyboon6259my only pushback is when Lamar only consistent piece on offense was mark andrews they berated Lamar n said he has to get it done with what hes got n has no excuse yet they’ll make that same excuse for joe josh Herbert previously lawrence it’s hypocritical
He doesn't, still looking for a identity
Also have to take into account Lamar has had 20+ All Pro/Pro Bowlers around him and Joe has had maybe 4-5…so that does count. They always leave that out! Joe has been more successful with less considering they have BOTH missed about the same number of games throughout their careers so far….I think if you switch the two players around you might better results with one and less results with the other. 🤷🏾♂️
As soon as Lamar Jackson and the Ravens beat the Chiefs in a meaningful game where the stakes are highest this argument has no merit.
They've got a long ways to go to catch Patrick. It'll take more than one meaningful game.
@jeremywendell5501 long ways? Lol they were just facing them in Championship 😂. That long way will be Jan again. And highly likely will be VERY different
@williamfrost3554I'm pretty sure the og comment is referring to the Burrow is better argument
Joey B will shock the world this weekend, but not NFL realists
Finally sum real conv about Burrow and sum respect for Lamar
you realize the Bengals are one of the best offenses statistically this year? Our o-line has the best pressure rates of any other team in the league. Burrow is top 5 in many passing categories. What are you talking about?
@@brandonmartin244 so what lol he is good the point was he is NOT lamar jackson when you look at the accolades and it is not remotely close. Just facts thats it
Unbiased football fan here.
Even though Baltimore struggles to get past KC, I believe Lamar is the best QB in all of football.
best and most unique are not the same.
I second that
Technically, bro, Lamar doesn't struggle to get past KC, He struggles to get past the refs
@@melaninknowledge3658
Very true!
Just like Brady, Mahomes gets all the calls especially late drives
RESPECT!!!! Thank you!! Someone actually being honest!
Honestly all them dudes are elite and good quarterbacks. And who you want with the ball with two minutes left is your preference.
Shady made good point. Different teams play the game and win games differently.
Remember this about Lamar ,
He doesn’t have Andy Reid and Kelce
He doesn’t have Jamar Chase and Tee Higgins with an offensive play caller for a head coach.
2:00 The accolades. Same thing can be said about Josh Allen Chase. All those 0 you mentioned for Joe Borrow is the same for yall fav Guest Josh Allen
At least Allen is a playoff demon
Burrow doesn’t have the
accolades and doesn’t transcend
his play in the playoffs either lol
6:00 “this the FACILITY” James had me dying for the rest of the show 😂😂😂
Burrow stats are elite this season but he has the WORST defense in the league. How is losing to the Ravens supposed to drop him a level?
Stat wise they are towards the bottom but arent actually the worst.
it shouldn’t. and it’s not cause burrow will prove to all these haters including these clowns why he’s miles ahead than lamar on sunday
@@osvaldoespino1950😂😂😂😂😂 that's funny
1-4
ravens also have the worst secondary in the league
Shady I felt the same way when I seen the video. I said to myself, “My QB is so dang focused. The type of leader he is man, I love it.”
All we need to do is be ourselves and play our game and we really can get this done. Let’s see if we can keep it up against these Bengals.
I forgot that burrow who’s putting up better stats and is playing better but defense sucks, makes burrow suck. 😂😂😂 it’s so laughable. How do these clowns have a job
Patrick mahomes has 5 ints and is playing horrible, but he is on a tier of his own?
3x Super Bowl Champ 2x MVP the greatest first 6 year start to any career in NFL history he belongs in his own room
Yeah this bait
@@Blinkred-mq2tr Right what is this idiot even talking about. It’s obvious Mahomes is Tier 1 nobody even comes close to his accolades right now!
Using 4 games out of his whole career to judge where he should be.
I'm definitely not going to argue w/ the fact that Pat isn't playing as well, meaning far more TOs than typical! But it does seem due to them winning the SB last year after not having a great season, he is being given more grace & also due their defense they've been able to keep win! Most sports pundits haven't included Pat in their discussions.
If they gave lamar the same bias award or Stat bias, the only qb on Lj's lvl is Pat.🤷🏾♂️
they don’t want do that😂, but they kno da real
buddy. pat is light years ahead of lamar. lamar can’t even make a damn super bowl. matter of fact took him 7 years to make one afc championship just to lose to PAT yall gotta stop with this nonsense lmao
@osvaldoespino1950 you have the reading comprehension of a toddler. Did I say Lamar was better than pat? You're the type the shouldn't even be allowed to use the internet.🧡
@@osvaldoespino1950 u have the reading comprehension of a 6 year old. Where did i say Lamar was better than Pat? U shouldn't be allowed to use the internet.🧡
@@osvaldoespino1950 youHAVEtheREADINGcomprehension of a toddler.🧡
2:33
"I think they found their identity, and it's through the run game...."
Ravens; _literally best running offense since Lamar started_
QB Tiers
Tier 1: Mahomes
Tier 2: Josh Allen Lamar Jackson Aaron Rodgers
Tier 3: Justin Herbert Joe Burrow Jared Goff Brock Purdy CJ Stroud
Tier 4: Dak Prescott Jordan Love Jalen Hurts Matt Stafford Baker Mayfield Geno Smith
Tier 5: Tua Kyler Trevor Lawrence Derrick Carr Sam Darnold
Tier 6: The Rest (Rookies not included in tiers)
Tier 2: Jayden Daniels
You have Roger’s? This list is null just because of the. Everyone in there 3 is better and even some in your 5. Baker is better than Aaron. I believe his stats are worse than everyone unless tier 6
Roger’s ??? Are bro I can’t take you seriously this ain’t Rodgers 6 years ago
Josh Allen just got destroyed and Aaron Rodgers is 50 years old. It's Lamar.
I think Love is on tier 3
First honest criticism of a yt quarterback I ever seen I’m shocked they only make excuses for them
Wait so we moving past Joe going to the superbowl but Shady be all on Jalen Hurts because his ceiling is also making the superbowl? Lmao
With all due respect, when the best of the best is in one conference, the other conference just doesn’t have the same outlook. You have to go through The Chiefs to get to the bowl in the AFC. In the NFC, it’s like who ever makes it, makes it, it’s year to year seemingly. All the recent dynasties have been in the AFC, so if a team can breakthrough and win a chip from that conference, it’s super noteworthy.
The show that can’t give a man props without taking away from another.
As a Quarterback Joe is better, as a running back Lamar is better
One is a 2x mvp who’s led the league in multiple QB categories! And the other made it to the chip and loss and still gets praised for it. Pull up the stats bucko!
Okay white guy, privileged ah
As a Bengals fan I'm not sure they've watched much of either QB
Just make sure you apologize when Joe takes the Bengals further than the Ravens. Half their defensive line is coming back from injury and the new role players on offense are just coming on
lol Cincy is not winning 10 games said it in March
@@MATTthaGMAN01😅😮
@@MATTthaGMAN01. They most certainly are going to. lol. You clearly arent paying attention to the new Scheme! Just think two TE sets and we will leave it at that! oh yeah. Erik All Jr., remember that name!
😂😂😂😂😂 they'll be fighting for 3rd
Keep on...keep doubting my ravens
Joe still has the highest completion percentage in NFL history, and his team has scored 34 and 33 points in the last 2 weeks. Joe is definitely on Lamar's level.
He's not
@@kyoakland He's better
The Joe Burrow disrespect 🤦♂
nahh he overrated
@Wedarealsinnas in his two full seasons, Superbowl and Championship game...Lamar always folds in the playoffs
@@asandalab6846 team accomplishments, in 3 full seasons 2 mvps for lamar
@@Wedarealsinnasonly 24 passing TDs and he's MVP?
@@Wedarealsinnas so according to your logic, Aaron Rodgers is better than Tom Brady 🤔
Love to see all the chiefs gear on tv the past couple years 😅
Did everyone just forget about the 2021 and 2022 seasons where Lamar Jackson failed to finish the season?
Games played since 2020:
Burrow 56
Lamar 59
Yea these guys clueless
So its his fault cuz he was hurt?
He's not been as healthy RECENTLY. That's the point.
@@MelvinBagbyhe's definitely been more healthy than Burrow 😂
So now Lamar is "available". I agree his legs make him seem better but when the corners and safeties are worried about runs and lbs have to respect play actions, it's a lot easier to pass the ball.
BRUH, I WAS LOOKING FOR THE CREW! They got a new show? Nice.
Did they forget last year's game against the Chiefs? Lamar was horrible in the most important game he has ever played..what big game has Lamar ever won?
Plenty. The biggest game of all (SB), Joe Burrow lost
@@guyfromnewarkLamar Jackson never made it to the super bowl. Who do you Jackson apologists think you're deceiving?
@@kevinevans8892 u don't get a ring for going to the SB unless u are on the winning team which Joe Burrow wasn't.
@@guyfromnewark. you dont get a chance at a ring unless you make it to one.
Just like joe burrow was awful against the chiefs in the 2022 afc championship but for some reason no one ever talks about that performance
Im glad Acho read the comments...Lamar is the reason the run game is great.
The Lamar narrative vs Lamar the reality and chase the only one spitting stats and facts
This rivalry game is serious I’m definitely locking in on this one I like this match up
As a chiefs fan- i have more confidence in a win vs ravens than i do over bengals. Mainly cause the qb. Take that how u wish.
Trash take
@@skenodaboss6104 most chiefs fan would agree. Bengals game always come down to final possession. Ravens games do not. 1st game this season was luck... ravens lucky bolton let the te score on the long td down the sideline, that nvr happens, was beating ravens pretty soundly most the game... like most the games vs ravens.
@@KamauTheQuietWaryayou're spot on. I have virtually no confidence Baltimore would've defeated the Chiefs in the playoffs last year. I wasn't surprised at all.
Exactly when burrow and mahomes play we know it’s going to be a one score game. it feels like the two best qbs are going up against each other. unlike when mahomes plays lamar where he’s 5-1 against him burrow been better just an injury seemed to make everyone forget how good he rlly is
Great Point Shady ‼️🙌🏽
lol chase Daniel’s is a good as an analyst as he was a QB lol 😂 how tf Lamar has the better team
Loooll
He has a better Defense and he has better team ..Compare the ravens to the Bengals Ravens have about 5 all pros
NFL QB? One of the best Quarterbacks on the planet?
Lamar has the better running game. Better defense. Better special teams. That's better than having better receivers.
Burrow was carried by the defense in that fluke sb run and other playoff wins, but when he loses it's Joe Burrow doesn't have a good team 😂 can't have it both ways
The ridiculous excuses they make for Burrow/Allen is epitomized by Chase saying Burrow “Probably has better receivers”. Bro what?
I also love how burrow is farther from the sun because he just lost Mahomes off a pass interference call lol.
right!? like why is always KC getting the key flag? you know they want to say hey look at how many penalties they call on the chiefs. Well sure they have to cover up somehow but its clear that the calls we are talking about are always the ones that are game sealing.
Honestly...it was b4 that
We can say the same week 1 against Baltimore. We are the most penalized team in the league and it ain’t even close
But Burrow wasn't able to close it out, even though the opportunities were there. Also, these game-altering penalties are not the refs giving the games away; they are signs of an undisciplined team who can't perform at crucial moments.
Everything Chase is saying goes for Allen too.....
Burrow is a better quarterback than Lamar. They just aren't on superbowl teams and Burrow gets hurt alot more than Lamar. Burrow has beaten the chiefs and mahomes and Lamar hasn't.
He beat him how many years ago….. look at the stats who is better. If they all retired right now who has a HOF career. Come on now
Lamar beats burrow every time they play…
Didn’t know beating Mahomes and the chiefs gets you a SuperBowl and a pass for everything
@@hybrid8557facts. Never has one dudes entire reputation been carried by one game in which he didn’t even play that well. Burrow still hasn’t scored 30 or thrown a TD in the 4th quarter in his playoff career and we’re supposed to act like he’s “Joe Cool”. The real Joe Cool was 4-0 in SBs with 11 TDs and 0 INTs. What a joke.
Mahomes has nothing to do with this Lamar is 4-1 against burrow you mentioning any other team or QB is irrelevant to this convo
Burrow haters gotta have this same energy come playoffs
Burrow has better stats than Lamar right now 7-1 TD to int ratio
N he can’t lead his team to a win so it means nothing!
They have the same int to td ratio
@@made_u_LookTV it’s not on him for the past 3 games the defense can’t get stops
@@made_u_LookTV look on espn stat for stat and tell me if burrow not on Lamar level.. yall just say anything but the numbers will tell you otherwise and with this take basically you’re saying Sam darnold better than Lamar
@@made_u_LookTV right now we have a top 5 offense what are you saying and burrow is top5 in every category besides passing yards because of week one when both TE sold him
Us Bengals, love being the underdogs!! We will see what happens Sunday 🙏🏼.
I tell you this - I'm not looking past the Bengals. The Ravens ae my team but I expect this to be a game.
Burrow been getting gassed off 1 playoff run for 3 years now he's a scrub without 2 elite wr's.. keep it a stack!
Burrow made it to two AFC championship games. Stop with your lies. You guys are only hating on Joe Burrow because of the color of his skin
he made it to 1 super bowl one year and the year after that to an afc championship. not just one run. and yall acting like this was ages ago this was literally only 2 years ago burrow shows what lamar can’t do and that’s win in the playoffs lmao
Bout time they give Lamar his props
Playoff record:
burrow 5-2 Lamar 2-4
Only player with a better playoff record is mahomes but we don't bring these facts up when talking burrow 😂😂
Good thing we're talking about week 5 lol but you're lying to yourself if you say that the Bengals defense wasn't the biggest factor of that super bowl run. Burrows stats are similar to Kirk Cousins in the playoffs. Meh.
@@curticusmaximus unless your talking about mahomes show me a better playoff resume of QBs right now..
Mixon gone y'all done
@@neighborhoodmingo5449 Mahomes had hindered several top QBs in the AFC from getting to Super Bowls. Whereas the NFC doesn't have that type of figure so it's more up in the air. Yes, Burrow beat Mahomes in the playoffs, something that's very difficult to do. I'm not going to try to take that away from him, but how can he continue to live off of that one super bowl run when everything else has been pretty mediocre
@@anthonykelly6524 honestly I thought Mixon was washed for the last couple years. He seemed pretty below average. Especially in terms of ypc and such, even when defenses were constantly forced to play in two high shells
This is like Bizarro World. Never thought I see this from the Facility...
Is Burrow on Lamar level?? Are you serious? You should be asking is Lamar on Burrows level. Lamar should not have been the MVP last year. Dak Prescott was the league MVP last year not Lamar Jackson. And Lamar has elite weapons. He has an elite RB and an elite TE and an elite LT and and elite center and a borderline elite WR is Zay Flowers. Burrow has 1 elite weapon in Jamar Chase. Tee Higgins is borderline elite. Name any other elite players on the Bengals offense. There aren’t any. I think Burrow is a WAY better QB than Lamar jackson is.
Dam u are mad lol, but ur opinion does not matter so stay mad all season lmao.
The Ravens already knew their identity. Not running the ball a lot ONE game doesn’t mean you don’t know yourself . Means you needed a better game plan
Last year Lamar had 29 total TDs, 0 game winning drives, 11 fumbles, 7 INT.
0 game winning drives is cap
@@youngboy3571 Thats what pro football focus says. What was the actual number and where did you get it from?
He didnr have 11 fumbles hoe
You don’t need fake winning drives when you score consistently & the defense gets stops.
7:59 - 9:47 ✅
Dropping knowledge/perspective today 👀 opened my eyes. Lol now Joey B(J.B.) is going to come out with vengeance tho with an extra chip on his shoulder like he got something to prove… might rally the troops and call M&T Stadium something like (J.B.) Stadium or J&T or something lol
0:00 - 10:27 Thanks for spending the time to create and share this content 🤙🏾
The difference was D. Henry his threat which paid off in OT but really paid off all game bc Bengals D played the run all game..
Mason Rudolph going to start the rest of the season
Peep how quick they change
These guys really changed there tune 💀
Guess they ain’t want to be apologizing to Lamar no more 😂
Damn.... I've never heard them praise the MVP like this. They usually always say he's worse.
They trying to give Joe Burrow Bulletin Board material 😂 foh
They learned their lesson😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Acho exactly these things are not allowed in our household either. We enjoy the clean/ honest facility too.
Usually feel like acho talks down on Lamar but he was speaking facts here. Ppl are talking like the run game carries Lamar, when in reality Lamar is THE reason the run game is so effective. Yes Derrick Henry is an all time talent, but he was not doing this last year. Gus Edwards averaged 5 ypc with lamar, averaging only 3 with the chargers.
7:59 - 8:16 - 8:47 D@mn he got me too on that one. I made the same misconception at first glance. That was a sneaky thought experiment. Kudos guy✅👍🏾
7:59 - 9:01 solid point
Where to get them hoodies
“Why do I think Joe is all high and mighty” I can tell you why…..but you won’t like it.
Thing is James is right. And Lamar keeps getting better and staying healthy. The way it's looking the North is a 2-way race. And Bengals is fighting for 3rd. Lamar is the 2nd best QB right now he's been proving it since last year. And he just proved it.
I'm not a Packers nor Jets fan. Here's something to think about: The only time Aaron Rodgers had a top ten defense in his career is the year he won a chip. Garrett Wilson of the Jets is the first receiver Rodgers has ever thrown a pass to that was drafted in this first round. Rodgers will be 41 years old this year.
Aint nobody worried about cincy this weekend! we running ALL over that flimsy front seven..and yo, D. Adams PLEASE come to Balto link with best tandem ever Lord Lamar Demeatrice Jackson and King Henrock! GO RAVENS FLOCK! 💪🏿🤜🏿👿🙏🏿 RIP Edgar Allen Poe...Tell-Tale Heart of a Raven!
When it matters most in playoffs, Lamar Jackson aint touching Joe Burrow
Burrow slander getting way out of hand
4:38 this was actually the win against the Cowboys
Joe Burrow has 7 game winning drives
Lamar Jackson has 6 game winning drives
The Ravens play a harder schedule each year
Burrow up there with Trevor Lawrence & Zach Wilson don’t ever compare him to Lamar, JA & mahommes again 🤣🤣
Everyone but Matthew and Aaron are 3superbowl planets away from the sun 😂 lol
If higgins go to ravens it's a wrap.
They've always put Joe in top 3 top 4 convo over Lamar, which I've never seen Burrow as a top 5 QB.
Yall seem so out of sorts complimenting lamar 😂😂😂😂😂
ravens been the best rushing team for the last few yrs without derrick henry.
I rock with burrow! I think him being a stationary qb is what’s hurting him because all the movie qb’s are rising more and more. Lamar is the truth doe. The send best qb in the league