Did you watch the video. He said Baker isnt the reason the bucs lose anymore like when he was in Cleveland. But hes not elite whos going to will his team to a victory
@oboy9090 Did baker score on every single drive? Or was there a few missed opportunities. He could’ve did more dude even though he had an excellent game
100%....that was a terrible defensive performance....played too soft. Let's see what happens when they get healthy on the next matchup. Congrats to Atlanta. It was an incredible win...but that game could have gone either way if we're being honest.
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6mthe coaches took the ball out of bakers hand what’s he supposed to do. On tampas final drive where a first down would’ve ended the game the only throw called was on a screen for negative yards this was a coaching discision and a coaching loss.
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6myes Liam started running the ball a lot more in situations that many would pass . This was a coaching loss for the Bucs not a baker loss
@@drew388 who gave up 509 yards and 36pts? Who fumbled on a TD drive? Who missed an obvious face mask call that knocked momentum out of another drive? You're a hater, it's cool. Just say that.
@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m again. You're another hater. Play calling comes from the coaching. Baker made plays, evidence by his 42 yards rushing. He kept drives alive. Fumble, penalties and ATL adjustments took effect. You just want QBs to go rogue all of a sudden? Get real.
@@FloridaCrigger It’s always the coaching yet the players can’t execute said play. So what does play calling got to do with the Bucs offense being held to 6 points?
James Jones ruined his own argument. He said that if you're elite we can drop you off anywhere and you'll win. Crazy because he said that Stafford is elite, but you can't blame him for not winning in 2023😊
@@PsychoWooolf47 not without their wrs. During the season last season The Eagles were healthy. During the playoffs the coach had left starters in a meaningless game where Hurts got his fingers broken and AJ was out indefinitely….and Smitty had just came back from an injury due to the dumbaxx coach…which is why he should’ve been fired without question
James jones and shady clearly only call qbs elite if they have physical talent, but that’s not what’s important for qbs. Look at tb12 and peyton manning.
Baker ran for 42 yards. They're just biased, period. Shady is acting like a major clown here. Dude sat on the bench for both his Super Bowl rings. Hilarious.
If Lamar had a game like Baker did last night, all we would hear is how great he is. Passing and running, Baker had a very good game. His defense cost him that game BIG time.
Cousins threw the ball 60 times to get 500 yards. But the final play was great. Defense lost this for Bucs. The hate for Baker is obvious and ridiculous. Idiots.
The NFL overtime rule has to change. The way they were playing, if the Buccs won the toss, they are just as likely to drive down the field to get a TD and leave the Falcons heartbroken. A coin toss should not dictate the winner in game where two teams are trading punches the whole night. It's an absurd format.
Baker just gotta lil taste as to what it feels like to be Rodgers in the playoffs 😮💨 consistently let down by the defense unfortunately but all in all the falcons v the bucs wassa PHENOMENAL game😤
Baker played extremely well. It's not his fault they only had Baker pass like 8 times in the 2nd half. It's also not Bakers fault his running back fumbled the ball. It's also not Bakers fault his defense gave up 36 points. I truly believe, if Bucs won the toss and Baker got a chance, they win the game. It's also not Bakers fault the refs missed a blatant facemask call that would have altered the game. It's also not Bakers fault his teammate got off the Falcons player too quick. If he takes 1 more second to get up, it's game over. Also: Kirk is 1-4 in the playoffs, and the dude rarely even makes the postseason! Baker is 2-2 and he makes the playoffs with average teams. Put some respect on Baker!!
I used to hate baker, he was always too cocky for his own good and his production, he was very immature also. The last two years though he is definitely matured and improved his playing. Hopefully he doesn't revert on attitude or play. He's gained my respect
Wtf did he do? Bucky fumbled at the end of the game and sort of blew it. The Bucs defense couldn’t stop anything. Their loss has nothing to do with Baker.
Baker is elite. Ya’ll aren’t watching . Check the numbers. Right now, Baker is better than 90% of the QBs in the league. To short a time frame. Include the last 8-9 games of last season and the playoffs. He is top 5 in almost every major stat.
Ya’ll sitting here trying to blame Baker like they didn’t put up 30 points. The defense is injured and got exposed. Tampa was the better team overall that lost because of a missed facemask call and because the defense couldn’t tackle.
As a bucs fan i have to disagree with one point. The bucs were not the better team. Better offense sure. We're missing 3 starters, i'm sorry but those 3 starters are not so good they're tackling for the whole team. The bucs cant tackle and cant pass defend PERIOD. Unacceptable how far they've dropped off since bowles has been in tampa.
absolute clown show, got these goofy "fans" gassed up on hate. One fumble from a win. One missed face mask from a win. Saw Aaron Rodgers skirt by many times in similar situations and he's "so elite".
How is no one blaming the bucks coach staff for not attempting to go for the first down getting the ball back with 1:40 seconds on the clock. Horrible coaching at the end
Let me just throw this out there.. Last Year, Lamar Jackson (won MVP) vs Baker Mayfield: Lamar: 4400 total yards, 29 total TDs, 18 combined INTs/Fumbles Baker: 4200 total yards, 29 total TDs, 18 combined INTs/Fumbles This year going into this week: Bucs offensive line is 28th in pass block win rate, receivers have dropped the 8th most passes, Baker is 11th in pass attempts and he's still top 5-ish in basically every QB statistic with only 2 interceptions. He played at an MVP level last year based on the numbers of the guy that won the MVP and he's been a top 5 QB this year. At what point do you start to give the guy credit for being one of the best QBs in the game at the current moment? And if we are talking playoffs...go look at your favorite QBs numbers in the playoffs vs Baker's in the playoffs and outside of Mahomes, he's just as good if not better than all of them. He has the 6th highest playoff passer rating of all-time, only Mahomes and Stafford have higher of all current players.
how do we fault bakers for only having 180 yards but held the lead the whole game. if not for that fumble by the rookie HB they clearly win Cousins had to throw the ball for 500 yards cause the bucs offense was doing whatever they wanted
Baker is 2-2 in the playoffs with his horrible situation and took Cleveland 1-31 before Baker to a playoff win. Lamar is 2-4 with the best situation he could go to. 🤷
Stafford has a Super Bowl and looks like the 5th and 6th best QB in the league most seasons. It's amazing how his numbers stayed the same after CJ retired.
I still say the Rams were fools to send a first round pick with Goff in that trade. People said, "But Stafford is elite." Uh... the Lions didn't get to a Super Bowl with Stafford - and rarely made the playoffs. The Rams went with Goff. That should've been a straight up trade. "The Rams draft really well, so it doesn't hurt them." So they couldn't have hit on a first round player who'd better better than thdir other drafts? And if they were so shrewd, why the gell did they make it public that they didn't want Goff - which made the case for sending a pick with him? I think it's fair to argue that the Rams still could have won a championship with Goff - but that aside, Stafford doesn't seem _that_ much better over the past few years.
Bucs gave up 509 passing yards so not on Baker. He throws pick in the 4th because they have been down, and he have to throw the ball and on the other hand 15 game winning drives
Why you don't give Lamar this kind of praise when he proves you all wrong? You all did everything but admit you were wrong about him after the Bill's game?
Bro what are you crying about? The dude is a two-time MVP. Shady just said that compare Baker to Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson. Meaning that those two are the gold standard for that draft class. Emmanuel then it goes on to say that Lamar Jackson is one of the five elite quarterbacks in the NFL. Do you want them to say that Lamar is second only to Brady or Montana? What are you talking about?
I’m a Saints fan AND Baker hater but BM is not why they lost that game. 😂 This is the 3rd game the Falcons have had the football gods on their side cause in a normal world, the Falcons are easily 0-5 😂
So bitter🤣🤣 Go catch something in the swamp for dinner. BTW, I agree: Baker is not the reason for the Bucs loss. Both defenses took the night off. Although the Falcons did hold him to 6 points in the second half
they live off revisionist history with Brady. No one even considered him elite multiple years after he won his first SB. Not to mention he was a 6th round pick. No one thought Brady was special coming out of college or in college.
The refs called a holding penalty when they where on 32 yard line while there was a face mask on that play. It pushed them back 10 yards and out of field goal range to put them up 6. That’s what cost them the game. The bucks gave up a field goal and the offense never saw the ball again. That game was rigged.
@@ADUSN not really. They showed a replay on Tv multiple times of the face mask and even the commentators said that it should of been a face mask penalty. It should of been a first down or at worst it should of had off setting penalty’s. And it would of been 2 and 10 in field goal range.
That play you’re talking about was at the beginning of the game that face mask was way earlier also Falcons missed 2 FGs so they would’ve won by 6 that way if not for the miss and block but it wasn’t Balers fault they lost it was the Falcons winning it that made them lose.
Baker was the reason we won in Cleveland. 0-31 over two seasons before he got there, he took us to the playoffs, beat the steelers in the playoffs.. the browns is where qbs go to die, and he still had some success. No surprise he is good on a good team with good culture. Baker gets shaded so hard for playing a bad season with a torn shoulder
Kirk cousins was on 🔥🔥🔥 with 500 throwing yards he deserves that contract… I don’t have nothing bad to say about Kirk after yesterday he a baller 💪🏾💪🏾 (and I been one of his biggest critics)
James Jones is on record saying Burrow is a top 3 quarterback thus being elite and now he’s saying that Burrow isn’t in that conversation anymore is ridiculous!
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Y’all talk about Hurts as if he some good QB and let’s not act like he doesn’t benefit from the talent around him
Kirk was and BETTER THAN RG3...DIDN'T WE AS EAGLES TAKE NICK SAME YEAR...I PREFER KIRK BUT MAYBE NO SUPERBOWL...1🤔😱
Why is this about Baker like if he lost the game😂😂 the defense lost the game
@@damonfoxworth1234hey remember Nick foles threw 27-3 interceptions and the files won a SB years later
Do these guys even watch the game? In what universe is that loss on Baker? The defense let Kirk throw for FIVE HUNDRED YARDS
Did you watch the video. He said Baker isnt the reason the bucs lose anymore like when he was in Cleveland. But hes not elite whos going to will his team to a victory
@@carbon.the.christ5626 How is a QB going to will his defense to victory?
@oboy9090 Did baker score on every single drive? Or was there a few missed opportunities. He could’ve did more dude even though he had an excellent game
@@oboy9090 Throwing a TD pass in the 4th quarter.
100%....that was a terrible defensive performance....played too soft. Let's see what happens when they get healthy on the next matchup. Congrats to Atlanta. It was an incredible win...but that game could have gone either way if we're being honest.
What a SILLY discussion. The FUMBLE and the DEFENSE cost Buccs the GAME...Had ZERO to DO with Baker!!!
It is but got have content to talk about to fill the time slot of the show
@DressCode2005 Plenty other MUCH more INTERESTING topics to TALK about...They NEED to USE more of their IMAGINATION!
@@mintruthI agree
@@mintruth It has nothing to do with imagination, it's what people click on. There is a reason almost every show has a Cowboy topic 7-10 times a week.
@mintruth, they literally just played last night. Of course, they are going to talk about Baker and Cousins!
Baker don’t play defense, Baker didn’t allow the Falcons to score 36 points. Baker didn’t see the ball in overtime, he did his job the defense didn’t.
he also could get more then 2 fgs in the 2nd half 😂😂😂
The Bucs offense only scored 6 points in the 2nd half. Not to mention they turned the ball over twice.
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m They it over once and it was a horrible fumble by Bucky Irving that Baker had nothing to do with.
@@gbrow1604 So how come the Bucs get held to 6 points in the 2nd half?
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m Baker had 8 pass attempts.
Yes, he's still trustworthy. Baker Mayfield is not why the Bucs lost. Not at all. Let's not start hating again on Baker Mayfield. He played well
They also made Drake London look like Tony Gonzalez out there
@@BryantBrothers-gm1qx Cause He is lol , he just needed a QB, London is Elite
Those fumbles are why the bucs lost. Baker played lights out last night
180 yards...not impressed...glorified game manager
Brugh you right.....baker been balling and I was one of his biggest critiques....eating crow, but got to give respect to the man
Tampa Bay Defense gave up 500+ passing yds and 36 pts. Why are we talking about Baker Mayfield ????
He sucks and he’s a choke artist
Two turnovers by the offense and only 6 points in the 2nd half?
Fair take
@@wrldofgod6321 baker did nothing but choked
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6mthe coaches took the ball out of bakers hand what’s he supposed to do. On tampas final drive where a first down would’ve ended the game the only throw called was on a screen for negative yards this was a coaching discision and a coaching loss.
Show respect to the Falcons rather than shitting on Baker for nothing
How come the Bucs offense couldn’t do sh** in the 2nd half?
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m conservative play calling bc they had the lead
@@danieldemarra337 for a whole half?
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6myes Liam started running the ball a lot more in situations that many would pass . This was a coaching loss for the Bucs not a baker loss
If Hurts was playing as good as Baker McCoy and Eagles fans would be doing tricks on it.
Bro u outta pocket😮
Exactly 💯
Eagles fans whine and bytch when they win and Hurts was playing good.foh
🎯
Facts
They act like baker fumbled when it was Bucky Irving lmfao
Did we all watch the same game because baker wasn’t the reason they lost.
so who couldnt get 1 td drive in the 2nd half?
@@drew388 who gave up 509 yards and 36pts? Who fumbled on a TD drive? Who missed an obvious face mask call that knocked momentum out of another drive? You're a hater, it's cool. Just say that.
@@FloridaCriggerWhose offense gives up 2 turnovers and only scored 6 points in the 2nd half?
@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m again. You're another hater. Play calling comes from the coaching. Baker made plays, evidence by his 42 yards rushing. He kept drives alive. Fumble, penalties and ATL adjustments took effect. You just want QBs to go rogue all of a sudden? Get real.
@@FloridaCrigger It’s always the coaching yet the players can’t execute said play. So what does play calling got to do with the Bucs offense being held to 6 points?
Because it’s bakers fault the defense gave up 40 points ?… 😭
Just makes no sense
It was hurts fault the bucs was winning 25 nothing at the half so yes
@@NEICYS_SON_PRODLLCso eagles defense ?
The offense gave up two turnovers and only scored 6 points in the 2nd half.
Dak deals with the same
Both offense was dealing meanwhile the defense was selling. Still the best game of the year tho
Was such a great game,
You can’t expect the defense to keep you in the game when the offense gives up 2 turnovers.
I think Mayfield is the first player to have 137.5 passer rating and still being called out. This is just stupid
Joey Burr had a 127.5, 324 yds 3 TDs and they say he isnt elite because his defense gave up 38. They just have nothing else to talk about
He was trash last night
@@patrickmcgee50219/24 180 Yards, 3 TDs 0 INTs is trash?
@@chiefearnest1450 he did nothing in the second half
@@chiefearnest1450What about the 2nd half?
I'm waiting for Shady to say this about Jalen.
Facts 💯
He need not be commentating... To biased 🤷🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️
You must not have heard what he said after Eagles vs Falcons
@@ronniemorning4126like I said before he’s the worst analyst ever!!!!
James Jones ruined his own argument. He said that if you're elite we can drop you off anywhere and you'll win. Crazy because he said that Stafford is elite, but you can't blame him for not winning in 2023😊
or all those years with the Lions prior
Defense and an unnecessary fumble lost that game. Why is Baker in the discussion?? SMH
And a missed call by the refs. Called holding to put the Bucs out of field goal range but not the face mask on the same play.
Shady just mad at Baker because he keep beating the eagles
He’s on his 3-4th team. Foh
@@757CitiesReppa doesn’t change the fact that he has the eagles number
@@khalidsena3505 not really🤔they beat dude when they were healthy. Thing is, the last two times they weren’t healthy. But whatever
@@757CitiesReppa neither was Tampa in the last matchup
@@PsychoWooolf47 not without their wrs. During the season last season The Eagles were healthy. During the playoffs the coach had left starters in a meaningless game where Hurts got his fingers broken and AJ was out indefinitely….and Smitty had just came back from an injury due to the dumbaxx coach…which is why he should’ve been fired without question
Shady rode the bench for his two super bowl rings. DO NOT bring those up, he did nothing in Tampa or KC. Absolutely nothing.
He still has them
We’ve seen Shady give out crazy work on a consistent basis. We’ve never seen Baker be consistent!
He has 10k plus yards, he’s an all-decade player, he earned the right to be a mentor to the running back room those years and earn those rings
Daaaaamn u hating tough….and u saying it proud
@hull9181 tell me where I'm wrong.
James jones and shady clearly only call qbs elite if they have physical talent, but that’s not what’s important for qbs. Look at tb12 and peyton manning.
I’m saying, make it make sense.
Baker ran for 42 yards. They're just biased, period. Shady is acting like a major clown here. Dude sat on the bench for both his Super Bowl rings. Hilarious.
If Lamar had a game like Baker did last night, all we would hear is how great he is. Passing and running, Baker had a very good game. His defense cost him that game BIG time.
No they wouldn't, they don't credit Lamar unless he win
WHAT ARE YOU ON?? They don’t credit Lamar. He can have a good game and they don’t credit him🤦🏽♀️
Have you ever seen this show? Acho hates Lamar with a passion.
Nah
Baker lead offense scored 6pts in the second half… he wasn’t that good fam. Football is two half’s .. not 1
Everytime the falcons win they talk about the other team.
The falcons getting that lions treatment
Cousins threw the ball 60 times to get 500 yards. But the final play was great. Defense lost this for Bucs. The hate for Baker is obvious and ridiculous. Idiots.
The NFL overtime rule has to change. The way they were playing, if the Buccs won the toss, they are just as likely to drive down the field to get a TD and leave the Falcons heartbroken. A coin toss should not dictate the winner in game where two teams are trading punches the whole night. It's an absurd format.
Need to fix their defense. Baker was not the problem
Baker and Kirk are both more than solid starters. This shouldn't be a debate in 2024
A segment that was about Baker suddenly turned into a Brock Purdy debate 🙄
If Brock Purdy wins, he is elite. His tape AND stats show it. Stop it, Shady
Baker just gotta lil taste as to what it feels like to be Rodgers in the playoffs 😮💨 consistently let down by the defense unfortunately but all in all the falcons v the bucs wassa PHENOMENAL game😤
What about the 2nd half for the Bucs offense? You can’t keep on expecting the defense to bail you out if you don’t score again.
Shady is such a hater bro. Baker had nothing to do with Tampa losing the game
I can’t stand him how is he an analyst he’s the worst!
Shady is unberable 😂 Baker was the main reason the game was that close.
Baker played extremely well. It's not his fault they only had Baker pass like 8 times in the 2nd half. It's also not Bakers fault his running back fumbled the ball. It's also not Bakers fault his defense gave up 36 points. I truly believe, if Bucs won the toss and Baker got a chance, they win the game. It's also not Bakers fault the refs missed a blatant facemask call that would have altered the game. It's also not Bakers fault his teammate got off the Falcons player too quick. If he takes 1 more second to get up, it's game over.
Also: Kirk is 1-4 in the playoffs, and the dude rarely even makes the postseason! Baker is 2-2 and he makes the playoffs with average teams. Put some respect on Baker!!
How is baker at fault when he scored 30 and is not on defense?????
Talk about the 2nd half.
When the defense gave up 500 yards and the offense scored 30 points, why are we even talking about QB?
Bruh are they being seriou? Baker has been balling going on 2 years. You gotta win every game to be deemed trustworthy??
I used to hate baker, he was always too cocky for his own good and his production, he was very immature also. The last two years though he is definitely matured and improved his playing. Hopefully he doesn't revert on attitude or play. He's gained my respect
Baker is top 10 rn idc. Eye test and Purdy is elite.
Mid
I hope you don't mean QB. If you mean top ten average QBs then sure.
@@AilmanF2P yeah ok loser
He is Top 5 forget Top 10
@@kingmaliik422 You dont know ball
Who takes a whole segment talking about the loser. I'm unsubcribing
Wtf did he do? Bucky fumbled at the end of the game and sort of blew it. The Bucs defense couldn’t stop anything. Their loss has nothing to do with Baker.
Baker didnt lose the game the defense and over conservative playcalling did
Chief fan here.
Baker mayfield is not the reason why they lost. Nope, no sir. He’s in the clear.
then why couldnt he put up any points the 2nd half? 😂😂😂
Baker is elite. Ya’ll aren’t watching . Check the numbers. Right now, Baker is better than 90% of the QBs in the league. To short a time frame. Include the last 8-9 games of last season and the playoffs. He is top 5 in almost every major stat.
Baker is not elite at all lol u will see he will get exposed sooner or later he’s doesn’t have killer instinct at all
He not elite 😭
Put that pipe down 😂
The last 40secs of this joint wit Shady is the FUNNIEST part of this whole thing! 😭🤣
I think the cast watched the wrong game lmao. Baker a top 5 QB this year
but not top 5 last game 😂😂
@@drew388 Mayfield played well enough to win, he wasn’t the one who fumbled with 2 minutes left
79% Completion Percentage, 3 TDs 0 INTs
@@drew388 good enough to win though. He don’t play defense. 30 is plenty to win a game. Also 3TDs/0 turnovers is pretty good also
Ya’ll sitting here trying to blame Baker like they didn’t put up 30 points. The defense is injured and got exposed. Tampa was the better team overall that lost because of a missed facemask call and because the defense couldn’t tackle.
As a bucs fan i have to disagree with one point. The bucs were not the better team. Better offense sure. We're missing 3 starters, i'm sorry but those 3 starters are not so good they're tackling for the whole team. The bucs cant tackle and cant pass defend PERIOD. Unacceptable how far they've dropped off since bowles has been in tampa.
If you guys even try to blame this on Baker...
Defense allows 500 passing yards and asking if Baker trustworthy 😂😂
absolute clown show, got these goofy "fans" gassed up on hate. One fumble from a win. One missed face mask from a win. Saw Aaron Rodgers skirt by many times in similar situations and he's "so elite".
@@KareemT11Defense only gave up 17 points in the 1st half. What happened to the Bucs offense in the 2nd half?
@@FloridaCriggerBaker is too inconsistent.
@@FloridaCrigger yes to most of that... Arod has the highest TD to INT ratio in history at 4.5 so that's why he's considered elite in my eyes.
How is no one blaming the bucks coach staff for not attempting to go for the first down getting the ball back with 1:40 seconds on the clock. Horrible coaching at the end
Jessie Bates won that game 2 forced fumbles
That makes 3 games since he signed that Jessie mf BATES made game winning plays
@@ADUSNI think it’s actually like 5 games that Bates helped them get the W
Let me just throw this out there..
Last Year, Lamar Jackson (won MVP) vs Baker Mayfield:
Lamar: 4400 total yards, 29 total TDs, 18 combined INTs/Fumbles
Baker: 4200 total yards, 29 total TDs, 18 combined INTs/Fumbles
This year going into this week:
Bucs offensive line is 28th in pass block win rate, receivers have dropped the 8th most passes, Baker is 11th in pass attempts and he's still top 5-ish in basically every QB statistic with only 2 interceptions.
He played at an MVP level last year based on the numbers of the guy that won the MVP and he's been a top 5 QB this year. At what point do you start to give the guy credit for being one of the best QBs in the game at the current moment? And if we are talking playoffs...go look at your favorite QBs numbers in the playoffs vs Baker's in the playoffs and outside of Mahomes, he's just as good if not better than all of them. He has the 6th highest playoff passer rating of all-time, only Mahomes and Stafford have higher of all current players.
?
Baker is not the reason they lost last night.
I picked Baker off the Waiver and start him last night and gave me 23 FP so yall can’t say ish about him. 😂 YES WE DO TRUST BAKER
I did too
Did the same with Kirk since I was starting Mooney over a questionable Khalil Shakir 🤝🏾
Jalen hurts wishes he was the qb baker is
He’s number one in a lot of fantasy leagues
Exactly. Baker been Balling this year
how do we fault bakers for only having 180 yards but held the lead the whole game. if not for that fumble by the rookie HB they clearly win Cousins had to throw the ball for 500 yards cause the bucs offense was doing whatever they wanted
Obviously not in the second half--6 points. But Baker wasn't at fault for the Bucs' loss.
Well actually if you watched the game Koo missed 2 FGs so they wouldn’t have had the lead the whole game if he had made those and they still lose by 6
Baker is 2-2 in the playoffs with his horrible situation and took Cleveland 1-31 before Baker to a playoff win. Lamar is 2-4 with the best situation he could go to. 🤷
Calvin Johnson made stafford look elite
Stafford has a Super Bowl and looks like the 5th and 6th best QB in the league most seasons. It's amazing how his numbers stayed the same after CJ retired.
I still say the Rams were fools to send a first round pick with Goff in that trade. People said, "But Stafford is elite."
Uh... the Lions didn't get to a Super Bowl with Stafford - and rarely made the playoffs. The Rams went with Goff. That should've been a straight up trade.
"The Rams draft really well, so it doesn't hurt them." So they couldn't have hit on a first round player who'd better better than thdir other drafts? And if they were so shrewd, why the gell did they make it public that they didn't want Goff - which made the case for sending a pick with him?
I think it's fair to argue that the Rams still could have won a championship with Goff - but that aside, Stafford doesn't seem _that_ much better over the past few years.
Lamar is 2-4 with all pros and pro bowlers on his team. How is 2-4 giving results? That's even worse than Baker.
Baker is good. Ask his peers. He didn't give up 36 points and fumble!
so who didnt put up any points the 2nd half 😂😂
This has to be one of the dumbest topics on the show so far. Baker was great all game and the rb fumbled and it was over, thats it.
Bucs gave up 509 passing yards so not on Baker. He throws pick in the 4th because they have been down, and he have to throw the ball and on the other hand 15 game winning drives
Chase telling someone they need to apologize is comical 😂
the defense allows kirk to throw for over 500 yards. the defense couldn't stop the falcons in OT and baker doesn't even get the ball.
*BlaMe bAKeR*
Why you don't give Lamar this kind of praise when he proves you all wrong? You all did everything but admit you were wrong about him after the Bill's game?
Win a Championship First
@@kingmaliik422 Herbert, Burrow, Allen etc. Don't have a ring.
Lamar is a running back
Why you talking about somebody that's not a part of the conversation???
Bro what are you crying about? The dude is a two-time MVP. Shady just said that compare Baker to Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson. Meaning that those two are the gold standard for that draft class. Emmanuel then it goes on to say that Lamar Jackson is one of the five elite quarterbacks in the NFL. Do you want them to say that Lamar is second only to Brady or Montana? What are you talking about?
Where is the apology for Lamar Jackson.
Win a Championship first
@@kingmaliik422neither of these teams or Josh Allen hasn’t won one so what’s your point 😂🤡
Shady being shady. Barker did not lose that game
I Trust Mayfield at QB. I don’t trust mayfield for the coin toss call 😑
Coin toss, the Bucs scored 6 points in the second half. Blame it on the refs or a coin.
@@AilmanF2P Coin toss for overtime Mayfield chose Tails .. Wat r you talking about 🤌🏼
but he couldnt even get a td the 2nd half 😂😂. thats choming in my dictionary😂😂😂
when he said See what im saying i DIEDDDDDDD
I’m a Saints fan AND Baker hater but BM is not why they lost that game. 😂
This is the 3rd game the Falcons have had the football gods on their side cause in a normal world, the Falcons are easily 0-5 😂
Falcons luck is going to run out.
So bitter🤣🤣 Go catch something in the swamp for dinner. BTW, I agree: Baker is not the reason for the Bucs loss. Both defenses took the night off. Although the Falcons did hold him to 6 points in the second half
@christopherwaits7852 This might be their year.
Dumb takes, so is Brady elite? Because He doesn’t jump off the screen like an elite qb. Brady’s had top defenses his whole career
they live off revisionist history with Brady. No one even considered him elite multiple years after he won his first SB. Not to mention he was a 6th round pick. No one thought Brady was special coming out of college or in college.
The refs called a holding penalty when they where on 32 yard line while there was a face mask on that play. It pushed them back 10 yards and out of field goal range to put them up 6. That’s what cost them the game. The bucks gave up a field goal and the offense never saw the ball again. That game was rigged.
"rigged" Coping
Absolutely! Bucky got cranked and no call. Same thing in the Giants Cowboys last Thursday
@@ADUSN not really. They showed a replay on Tv multiple times of the face mask and even the commentators said that it should of been a face mask penalty. It should of been a first down or at worst it should of had off setting penalty’s. And it would of been 2 and 10 in field goal range.
@@Jaymoe316 Atlanta is not a sports market they're rigging games for. You're coping.
That play you’re talking about was at the beginning of the game that face mask was way earlier also Falcons missed 2 FGs so they would’ve won by 6 that way if not for the miss and block but it wasn’t Balers fault they lost it was the Falcons winning it that made them lose.
Love this show. Great concept.
I’m I blind both those defense were atrocious. To me both Atlanta and Tampa are held back by horrible defenses.
You're statistically wrong at least about the Falcons
Guys...I'm sitting in my chair, and watching your show
"consistently"...no "motion"...I am elite!
Baker was the reason we won in Cleveland. 0-31 over two seasons before he got there, he took us to the playoffs, beat the steelers in the playoffs.. the browns is where qbs go to die, and he still had some success. No surprise he is good on a good team with good culture. Baker gets shaded so hard for playing a bad season with a torn shoulder
5:39 I disagree in Cleveland he was the only reason they won anything
Kirk cousins was on 🔥🔥🔥 with 500 throwing yards he deserves that contract… I don’t have nothing bad to say about Kirk after yesterday he a baller 💪🏾💪🏾 (and I been one of his biggest critics)
When Trent Dilfer won a superbowl, did he become elite? 😂
I’m here for the apologies 😂😂😂😂
Their sports discussion here is 🔥 fire!
Wasn’t Baker fault he balled
Herbert has the same amount of game winning drives as mahomes but they stay talking that BS on Herbs
James Jones is on record saying Burrow is a top 3 quarterback thus being elite and now he’s saying that Burrow isn’t in that conversation anymore is ridiculous!
We live in a world where Baker Mayfield & Sam Darnold are the best two QBs goin right now… 😅
Acho gives Burrow the nod for going to a Super Bowl but not Goff? Make it make sense.
My only idea would be because he beat mahomes in the AFC championship 🤔
Some of Achos takes are horrible but McCoy's is starting to have really good takes 👏
They said Lamar Jackson is an elite qb with his 2-4 playoff record, lol
I really appreciate shady always standing up for Goff whenever Acho tries to be funny
Eli Manning was never considered "elite." Simply look at his TD to INT ratio... He's done elite things to win his 2 SB. THAT EASY!!!
I trust Baker...I don't trust the Bucs defense and they give up too many big plays!
I'm shocked they won this game. I turned it off after they didn't get the 1st down after the 2 minute warning.
Also why are any of these dude arguing with a QB about what elite QB play is. People need to get out of their feelings.
The 180 passing yards were a symptom of the Bucs running game. The defense, and the fumble by the RB were the biggest issue.
All that bs for them to agree that eli and joe flacco aren't elite even with SB wins
Lamar and Josh Allen are Elite that has not won anything, always losing in the playoffs.
If thats your logic 31 out of 32 QBs are trash.
Josh and Lamar plays mvp level every year we can’t say the same about that baker choker
Shady he the most elementary school takes for someone who was so nice at football
Kirk did play good the defense was outright aweful
Baker did his job and some
The Bucs lost because they took the ball out of Baker's hands
Eli was elite. He had two of the greatest playoff runs in history both capped off with Super Bowl Wins against Brady, BB and the Pats.
Love and much respect for all you guys. But that defense lost that game period. Not Baker
These fools cost me money lmaoo
As a person that used to watch baker not even as a fan but passively he has dealt with not being protected. He was fleeing for his life in ohio ijs
Man yall really went after Baker on this game? Kirk was out there killing thr defense like he was Payton. C'mon yall be real at least. Smdh
Purdy doubt is still among us. James, you definitely haven't been watching the tape.