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  • Опубликовано: 18 ноя 2024

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  • @francisrizon2149
    @francisrizon2149 2 года назад +11

    Totally agree 👍 mechanics are the unsung heroes of a pro cycling team.
    They actually know the secrets of each bike have.

  • @aaronlim5628
    @aaronlim5628 2 года назад +9

    Thank you for featuring the mechanic. So interesting hearing directly from him about his process and experience.

  • @sullysullster8217
    @sullysullster8217 2 года назад +46

    Nice to see these out in the field videos again. Ive been requesting for years but I guess Ill ask adain. How about an interview w a veteran moto guy? Photographers stories...cameramen...referees,time gap motos. Cmon I bet these guys have the craziest stories.

  • @gbart981
    @gbart981 2 года назад +9

    Mechanics are the unsung heroes of the world!
    Nice video, thanks.

  • @callumsimms9113
    @callumsimms9113 2 года назад +28

    The confused look from the mechanic when Ollie fist bumped him 😂👌

    • @Rosi_in_space
      @Rosi_in_space 2 года назад +3

      The fist bump or elbow bump replaced the classic handshake; I think I would be a little confused too.

  • @SignorLuigi
    @SignorLuigi 2 года назад +7

    Great job!! Most important thing mentioned in this video and with regard to things that have increased the maintenance demands on mechanics..."Disk brakes, that's a whole conversation in itself." 😳🤦🤣🚴🏻‍♀️💨

  • @pericofantasias
    @pericofantasias 2 года назад +6

    It’s amazing how good the mechanic’s English is. These people are really great, highly qualified professionals.

    • @goonzjav
      @goonzjav 2 года назад +2

      Well judging by the accent he has picked up I think he has spent a lot of his time in a predominantly English speaking country and not his home country possibly.

  • @theforgottenbrawlers
    @theforgottenbrawlers 2 года назад +23

    It would be interesting to see GCN presenters as bike mechanics, some kind of video challenge of cleaning the bikes and so on.

  • @MajorJamesGastovski
    @MajorJamesGastovski 2 года назад +77

    The most valuable info is that no one wants to jet-wash their bikes if time is enough.

    • @MS-bw7yt
      @MS-bw7yt 2 года назад +6

      Why is jet washing such a big topic with cyclist?! If you damage your bike with a jet wash, you are either to dumb to handle a jet wash correctly or something was not okay on your bike in the first place

    • @MajorJamesGastovski
      @MajorJamesGastovski 2 года назад +3

      ​@@MS-bw7yt Because it's just a joke between GCN presenters and pro tour mechanics.

  • @MggW
    @MggW 2 года назад +14

    Having seen a few of these videos, it would be really interesting to follow the process of specifying, designing, building specialist vehicles like these.

  • @inVINCEible64
    @inVINCEible64 2 года назад +13

    Tubeless + airliner’s is an interesting combination. Would love to see a video on installation, rolling resistance, puncture testing, compatible sealants, etc.

    • @saynotothegreatreset
      @saynotothegreatreset 2 года назад

      it just makes your bike heavier .
      look how many tubular wheels are on a rack and how many tubeless are on a rack ?
      do you really think pro riders are bothered to use tubeless ?
      they may use it in some races that involve lots of gravel sections suck as strada bianche . tubeless are for nubes as disc brakes

  • @SatrnOne
    @SatrnOne 2 года назад +1

    EF is a really fun team to watch. I love these BTS videos of race life.

  • @gatton225
    @gatton225 2 года назад +12

    Any chance of a video as to how they set up and dismantle then travel to the next finish area on a grand tour please.

  • @perthtriathlete5572
    @perthtriathlete5572 2 года назад +5

    Loved it. Would love to see more of this

  • @tuttobicci
    @tuttobicci 2 года назад +8

    I remember when I first started working as a team mechanic, in the late 80s for Team GB. There were no 'team bikes' everyone had a different bike, if someone had a puncture you had to send the punctured tubular back to the federation as 'proof'. It was grim. Working for a Pro Team was a revelation, but still pretty shitty.

  • @gcntech
    @gcntech  2 года назад +44

    Did you enjoy this video? What else would you like to see us feature more on the channel?

    • @cashermans4214
      @cashermans4214 2 года назад

      meeee

    • @stephenjohngavarra303
      @stephenjohngavarra303 2 года назад +3

      I've been waiting since forever for the EF truck tour
      Amazingg!!!

    • @scottbert9556
      @scottbert9556 2 года назад +4

      I'd love to see what a cyclist eats in a day of competing. Food, total volume, etc.

    • @perwiratempur
      @perwiratempur 2 года назад +1

      Team bus inside, like you did many years ago, would be nice now

    • @erockem
      @erockem 2 года назад +3

      The Q&A interview was fantastic.

  • @chrisridesbicycles
    @chrisridesbicycles 2 года назад +10

    Team trucks and busses are always interesting. I will definitely try the trick with the degreaser and the brush. Shimano should invest a few grams and make the roadie brakes more like the MTB brakes. My XTRs need practical no service. At some point they start to squeak and usually I‘m on the metal spring between the pads at that point and they need new pads.

  • @evilish888
    @evilish888 2 года назад

    Look, I think the mechanic does a smashing job!

  • @102.7-w7f
    @102.7-w7f 2 года назад +8

    Now that is how all commercials should be made - colour,movement, informative,fast paced - thoroughly enjoyable 😉
    The bar has now been raised for the toilet paper ( bog roll) industry..........

  • @jctothel
    @jctothel 2 года назад +1

    Please bring more bus tours back!!!

  • @talibe801
    @talibe801 2 года назад

    Great video,nice interwiew with the mechanic.

  • @carnicer78
    @carnicer78 2 года назад +21

    very interesting video from really the inside of a grand tour
    the question i have now is whether other teams have similar size maintenance trucks, and similar procedures

    • @davideferreira3202
      @davideferreira3202 2 года назад +9

      Given the fact the EF Education are not even one of the most rich teams of the peloton I'd say there's probably even bigger trucks.

    • @zygmuntthecacaokakistocrat6589
      @zygmuntthecacaokakistocrat6589 2 года назад +3

      Ineos have gold-plated tools.

    • @dan_lazaro
      @dan_lazaro 2 года назад +2

      Ineos have a bigger truck I think but they have a massive budget which is why they're always expected to win (even though they don't win a lot based on the recent races I watch but I guess there's a limit to how much advantage you can get with money.

  • @robertgawanab-yl3mz
    @robertgawanab-yl3mz Год назад

    Excellent to watch those videos on cleaning bikes was always wondering how they do it .Africa .Namibia Usakos

  • @riojavehicles
    @riojavehicles 2 года назад +1

    Thank you very much for this video. The ultimate big truck was designed and manufactured by Rioja Singular Vehicles in Spain.

  • @seattlegrrlie
    @seattlegrrlie 2 года назад +4

    Oh, my bikes have never been that clean in their lives. I'm so jealous

  • @theantichrome9842
    @theantichrome9842 2 года назад +2

    Best muckoff commercial I've seen...but an Aperol Spritz? Gastly.

  • @jasonsimpson4805
    @jasonsimpson4805 2 года назад

    Awesome peek behind the curtain. Keep up the excellent work!

  • @scottbert9556
    @scottbert9556 2 года назад +7

    Yeah, that's pretty much my setup with my crap bike rack on the back of my Honda Civic.

    • @rgh622
      @rgh622 2 года назад +1

      Lol

  • @Flo_xyz
    @Flo_xyz 2 года назад

    The muc-off bio grease but with Vintage Team Sky as Offizial Partner 😂😂😂

  • @jespernohr
    @jespernohr 2 года назад +15

    GCN need to give Ollie a raise. He can't even afford socks :D

    • @taichihead42
      @taichihead42 2 года назад +1

      Thats a gay thing now with men, didn't you hear.

    • @jespernohr
      @jespernohr 2 года назад +5

      @@taichihead42 how the bloody hell did you get from an innocent joke to suddenly make it about sexual orientation? Your own insecurity is showing.

    • @taichihead42
      @taichihead42 2 года назад +1

      @@jespernohr Well first off look at his jeans there not mens pants there women's and women started the fashion of no socks on wearing shoes. Are you upset because i insulted him. Don't worry hun i am sure Ollie still loves you.

  • @tornagawn
    @tornagawn 2 года назад

    Wow! The bike maintenance area looks clinical as! We have a room for skin surgery- removing skin cancer growths, this looks as bright and clean. The only difference is our ceiling mounted LED adjustable spotlight.

  • @sebastianfrank4295
    @sebastianfrank4295 2 года назад

    Great Muc-off-commercial

  • @JackChickenwing
    @JackChickenwing 2 года назад

    Ollie had really good questions for the mechanic!

  • @BlurB97
    @BlurB97 2 года назад

    Disc Brake cleaner on the brakes themselfs is a good tip! I just used it on the discs :)

  • @Countrystock
    @Countrystock 2 года назад +1

    Best paint job in the pro peloton 😍

  • @HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed
    @HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed 2 года назад +4

    Mechanics are getting better Toys 👏

    • @savagepro9060
      @savagepro9060 2 года назад

      'better'? they have MORE work to do. Some of this work is repetitive and tiring.

    • @HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed
      @HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed 2 года назад

      @@savagepro9060 ha ha ha 🤣 if they didn't they would be complaining

  • @royalmoline9197
    @royalmoline9197 2 года назад

    I enjoy the rider positive movement in the UCI sanctioned races. And good on the mechanics for protecting the dignity of the riders. I am referring to his “sick riders” comment.

  • @JM-vy5tl
    @JM-vy5tl 2 года назад +1

    Great content Ollie!

  • @dubplateriddim
    @dubplateriddim 2 года назад +1

    F**k off is my favorite bike supplement.

  • @cesarjom
    @cesarjom 2 года назад

    Awesome video!

  • @SuperFunSuperLiz1
    @SuperFunSuperLiz1 2 года назад

    Thank you Ollie, for addressing the jet washing...we were cringing. But I suppose if the same Mechanics are washing and servicing the same bikes, they will stay on top of bearing service too. (still won't do it to my bikes)😆

  • @JMcLeodKC711
    @JMcLeodKC711 2 года назад +12

    Ollie…..when he said that they do their tubeless set different than other teams primarily for safety, why didn’t you dig deeper and ask him to elaborate?

    • @U.s.e.r.3493
      @U.s.e.r.3493 2 года назад +7

      Isn't it related to the Vittoria run flats?

  • @jempanuncialman9361
    @jempanuncialman9361 2 года назад

    More team car visit👍,thanks Mr. Mechanic ,now i know how to bike wash with pressure water.

  • @Volkmannx
    @Volkmannx 2 года назад

    Interesting, thanks!

  • @johanreberg4872
    @johanreberg4872 2 года назад

    Intresting to see how they and where they work with the bikes and how they are transported.. In cross-country skiing our national team (swedish) has a similar truck where they have all the racing skis for every rider.. a huge amount just as the bikes for EF, they also use the truck for puting wax on the skis when at competion this truck goes all over Europe during World Cup-season.

  • @ChimmyxChang
    @ChimmyxChang Год назад

    Casually makes a Dr. Who reference @ 0:30

  • @eblackshaw
    @eblackshaw 2 года назад

    Excellent Tour Ollie ... I believe the truck is nicer than my house as well ;).

    • @davebolger3929
      @davebolger3929 2 года назад

      I'm pretty sure it cost more than mine...

  • @christophermee5214
    @christophermee5214 2 года назад +1

    Make sure you oil the spring that actually does all the work

  • @massimofi
    @massimofi 2 года назад

    Very nice video thank you.

  • @paulcollingridge8387
    @paulcollingridge8387 2 года назад

    Awwwww let Hank do the bike vault by himself!

  • @cryingrocknathanaeledwards1828
    @cryingrocknathanaeledwards1828 2 года назад

    That’s almost more bikes that can fit in the truck than the bike shop I work at has on the floor!

  • @zygmuntthecacaokakistocrat6589
    @zygmuntthecacaokakistocrat6589 2 года назад

    That's what a 20M Euro budget can buy you. I've mechanicked at pro-level out of the back of 2 Transit vans, and you have to have all your wits about you to keep your riders on the road. Michele seems like a nice guy.

  • @thedoginside
    @thedoginside 2 года назад

    Love these insight videos & what a nice bloke (mechanic not Ollie!) 😀

    • @troycollett8540
      @troycollett8540 2 года назад

      Yeah Michele owned a bike shop in Adelaide

  • @savagepro9060
    @savagepro9060 2 года назад

    Carapaz will soon be using that Bike Truck, ain't it?

  • @stevedouglas3975
    @stevedouglas3975 2 года назад

    Funny though the Muc-off Bio grease had Team Sky on it. Ooops.

  • @richardharker2775
    @richardharker2775 2 года назад

    There is a lot of pressure put on the mechanics since anything that goes wrong in the race reflects back on them and their sponsors products.
    I don't know if electronic shifting has an element of care or if it is so reliable it isn't a problem.

  • @thepdails
    @thepdails 2 года назад

    I'd love to know what 11-32 cassettes they use for shimano!

  • @antonnykavinguha854
    @antonnykavinguha854 2 года назад

    Just a question I always wonder. Do the riders use the same bikes every day of the tour? Some rumor that the big teams have riders using brand new custom bikes for every stage of the tour.

  • @fa1coner
    @fa1coner 2 года назад

    Anyone know what make of bike stands those were in the truck. I know park tools makes one similar but their prices suck.

  • @chris1275cc
    @chris1275cc 2 года назад +3

    Yeah but does it get the bikes any cleaner than my advanced pound shop bucket and 29p washing up liquid method? ................The answers yes isn't it?

  • @ScottsGearReviews
    @ScottsGearReviews 2 года назад

    What’s the “different manner” that EF uses to keep their tubeless tires more safe than other teams?

  • @Hostdown1
    @Hostdown1 Год назад

    ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ the dream

  • @MggW
    @MggW 2 года назад

    Hang on - 0:42 - no socks! Is Dr Olie suffering from tri-curious hot feet?

  • @peterthomas8053
    @peterthomas8053 Год назад

    Just got round to watching this video now, having just subscribed to EF Education etc., etc., etc.🙄😉 Loved it, but didn't feel comfortable with the 'bike maintenance' guys being called 'bike mechanics'.🤨 I know that they refer to themselves as the same, but I think that it's about high time they were referred to as 'cycle technicians'. After all, bikes are a lot more oomplex these days, with electroncs, hydraulic hoses, power metres, disc brakes etc. We need to acknowledge the important and highly technical maintenance that they provide, in a time restrictive enviroment. Great work guys.👍

  • @mvmadore
    @mvmadore 2 года назад

    That's a lot of work every day.

  • @888johnmac
    @888johnmac 2 года назад

    yay , are you going to bring back Team Bus tours ?? ( or due to Lasty & Lloyd are you still banned )

  • @AussieInJapan
    @AussieInJapan 2 года назад

    I can see why they sent Ollie instead of Conner for a view inside the truck.

  • @milkncheese1
    @milkncheese1 2 года назад

    Lol 5:21 it shows hydro dynamic chain lube being used but then you say they use ludicrous af lube ????
    All cool either way, I just noticed the products being used as I use nothing but muc off myself... mostly Ebike stuff... all very very good in fact they are fantastic products....
    Muc off thank you....

  • @dc.tm28
    @dc.tm28 2 года назад

    Maybe before Cannondale he used to work for Look :)

  • @jadsru1
    @jadsru1 2 года назад

    Even the mechanic at EF has a whoop band on his wrist

  • @czechian
    @czechian 2 года назад +2

    Bought MucOff Dry Lube and it's the worst lube ever. Stays on the chain only for like 20km, then the chain starts to squeak. Going back to Shimano branded lube.

  • @senseiquickbooks4588
    @senseiquickbooks4588 2 года назад

    I need 1 full day to clean my one MTB 😅

  • @dieddf
    @dieddf 2 года назад +4

    When are you going to update GNC Tech and change its name to "GCN Marketing" ?

    • @savagepro9060
      @savagepro9060 2 года назад

      Muck Off Fck Off😆😅🤣😂

  • @humphreyw8150
    @humphreyw8150 2 года назад

    Ollie: Asks any question
    That guy: "Look..."

    • @looweer03177
      @looweer03177 2 года назад +4

      When you speak another language, you often have patterns you fall into to give you time to think.

  • @whynotride327
    @whynotride327 2 года назад +3

    Nice commercial (turn sarcasm key off).

  • @DanTuber
    @DanTuber 2 года назад +1

    I guess that's a no for jet washing...unless you're a pro rider and short on time.

  • @herculesrockefeller8969
    @herculesrockefeller8969 2 года назад +2

    "Look..."

  • @Thecrazyvaclav
    @Thecrazyvaclav 2 года назад

    Can see all those “YOU NEVER JETWASH A BIKE” people losing their minds over that cleaning regime

  • @devdroid9606
    @devdroid9606 Год назад

    It's bigger than my apartment. I'll bet it costs $350k for that truck alone.
    How much do you think it costs?

  • @trroland1248
    @trroland1248 2 года назад

    Where does the rain water and wash water go in the big hole in from the Cannondale headtube? Smart design again Cannondale.

    • @jgogl9791
      @jgogl9791 2 года назад

      There's an (exit) hole at the underside of the bottom bracket.

  • @chrisprice5806
    @chrisprice5806 2 года назад

    high resale value on that truck with custom popouts

  • @trroland1248
    @trroland1248 2 года назад +17

    "You know, the disc brakes are very high maintenance." From a pro team mechanic, that about says it all.

    • @thedronescene7474
      @thedronescene7474 2 года назад

      Of course! But I am sure he is not allowed to say nothing more or risk getting complains from the sponsor.
      We all know it, Disc = Crap!
      If you live in flat, get carbon clincher rim brake!
      Going climbing? Go a nice Alu wheels such C24 Rim brake from Shimano.
      There is 0 need for disc.

    • @brunoj6146
      @brunoj6146 2 года назад +1

      No high maintenance on my disc brakes. I replace the pads and discs myself when necessary. Bleeding every 2 or 3 years if necessary. What is high maintenance in that ?

    • @troycollett8540
      @troycollett8540 2 года назад

      @@brunoj6146 he prob means during a stage race

    • @brunoj6146
      @brunoj6146 2 года назад

      @@troycollett8540 it’s not maintenance then. And the interview is about maintenance between the stages.

    • @troycollett8540
      @troycollett8540 2 года назад

      @@brunoj6146 that’s exactly what I mean ffs

  • @cb6866
    @cb6866 2 года назад

    Very cool...Thanks Ollie and crew..they get abused a bit as well , eh? Peace

  • @chrishey6891
    @chrishey6891 2 года назад

    I spy the use of chain keepers! Si won't be happy!

  • @thedronescene7474
    @thedronescene7474 2 года назад +1

    Muc Off: Whenever I see that brand, I recall they created a Faraday Cage for the Apple Air Tag and claimed it “improved” detection range…. Till today they still claim it….. ripoff company.

  • @SPMech1
    @SPMech1 2 года назад

    👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @kartoffelstranger9187
    @kartoffelstranger9187 2 года назад +5

    I'm surprised they're degreasing the bikes outside on the pavement. Here you'd get an eye watering fine for polluting the ground.

    • @liezefantastico
      @liezefantastico 2 года назад +3

      muc-off's degreasers are biodegradable and thus one of the few environmentally friendlier ones

    • @kartoffelstranger9187
      @kartoffelstranger9187 2 года назад +4

      @@liezefantastico the degreaser might be, but the grease itself is not. also biodegradable does not mean bio friendly, it still harms and or kills plants and animals. it's quite misleading. the regulations here even state that chemicals labeled as "biodegradable" must NOT be used outdoors or flushed down drains.

    • @liezefantastico
      @liezefantastico 2 года назад +4

      @@kartoffelstranger9187 fair point indeed, did not think it through, apologies!

    • @11-inch
      @11-inch 2 года назад +1

      What is you alternative solution then, since you are being such a fucking genius?

    • @arnoldhau1
      @arnoldhau1 2 года назад +5

      @@11-inch collect the liquid for proper disposal. A lot of effort but possible of course.

  • @barrysturgeon3132
    @barrysturgeon3132 2 года назад +2

    Oooh! What is the device the mechanics are using to allow them to spin the pedals and chain with the bike wheel removed?

    • @liezefantastico
      @liezefantastico 2 года назад +2

      It's called a chain keeper I believe

    • @paulwheeless1080
      @paulwheeless1080 2 года назад +2

      I have a Park Tool DH-1 Dummy Hub. So worth the $22 I spent!

  • @julmeissonnier
    @julmeissonnier 2 года назад +13

    So I learned: that they have 5 brand new tubeless wheels for advertising purpose to fool the average Joe into thinking that what they are getting sold on is what the pros use and 50 tubular wheels to get the job done... :)

    • @Goriaas
      @Goriaas 2 года назад +1

      why would you ride tubular if being a few seconds master doesn't matter?

    • @julmeissonnier
      @julmeissonnier 2 года назад +1

      @@Goriaas Because between the lighter rims and with good tubulars with latex tubes they ride fantastic!

  • @andbattleships
    @andbattleships 2 года назад +1

    another mechanic coming out against disc brakes! get durianrider in here.

    • @huwsparky175303
      @huwsparky175303 2 года назад

      Disk brakes are a joke within the circles. It's only a matter of time before manufacturers are confident they've sold a disk brake bike to everyone who's likely to buy one and they'll move on to try and sell the next 'thing' it's just how it works. A fool and his money are easily parted and all that...🤞

  • @Totalavulsion
    @Totalavulsion 2 года назад

    Disc brakes and tubeless with liners 😂

  • @Richz2
    @Richz2 2 года назад

    Only people who don’t pay for the bikes would use muc-off…

  • @darinsteele7091
    @darinsteele7091 2 года назад

    another mechanic that hates the discs lol

  • @Rohambili
    @Rohambili 2 года назад

    whish i can work in that truck

    • @savagepro9060
      @savagepro9060 2 года назад

      yeah, they need a toilet cleaner

    • @Rohambili
      @Rohambili 2 года назад

      @@savagepro9060 Eatglass madajaka

    • @Rohambili
      @Rohambili 2 года назад

      @@savagepro9060 i would love that

  • @whothefoxcares
    @whothefoxcares 2 года назад +1

    Pro cycling team trucks require Russian diesel fuel, sanctions not withstanding.

  • @LegSpinna
    @LegSpinna 2 года назад +6

    Boooooo those disc brakes!

    • @Stevenafoe
      @Stevenafoe 2 года назад

      Booo those rim-brake fanboys… 😂

  • @saynotothegreatreset
    @saynotothegreatreset 2 года назад

    I eard everything I what I wanted:
    "disc brakes are high maintenance and they make mechanics job harder"
    why pushing unsustainable product to people ?!? 🤔

  • @jestag2
    @jestag2 2 года назад +13

    8:17 "Disc brakes are high maintenance." - from mechanic of 35 years. Yet a lot of people are brain washed that discs have less maintenance.

    • @kristianmatustik
      @kristianmatustik 2 года назад +1

      noone says they have less. Just that its worth it

    • @andrewmcalister3462
      @andrewmcalister3462 2 года назад

      The mechanics used to be able to get a head start on maintaining rim brakes by doing it DURING the race... 😀

    • @jestag2
      @jestag2 2 года назад

      @@kristianmatustik There are a lot of comments saying discs have less maintenance on youtube videos comparing discs to rim brakes.

    • @whynotride327
      @whynotride327 2 года назад

      @@jestag2 Simply comments from people who want you to believe that nonsense.

    • @kieranbarry8193
      @kieranbarry8193 2 года назад

      @@jestag2 exactly! Always makes me laugh when people try to claim that they're no harder to maintain than rims....disc brakes are basically a fukin pain in the ass and thats what you need to consider if you get them

  • @jimmyzhao2673
    @jimmyzhao2673 2 года назад

    I wonder if it is a waste of the senior mechanic's expertise to be washing bikes. Should they not get a junior person to do the washing, and leave the tune-up/servicing to the senior tech's ?

    • @jayw900
      @jayw900 2 года назад

      Cheaper to have one person do both.

  • @illustrationmaking
    @illustrationmaking 2 года назад

    I thought you weren’t supposed to use jet wash on your bike…….. ?🤣

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  2 года назад

      The pros do it because they need to clean their bikes quickly and service their bearings a lot more regularly

    • @illustrationmaking
      @illustrationmaking 2 года назад

      @@gcntech yeah I realised he answered that one the second I hit enter 🤣 he read my mind…. What I DID get out of it was using a paintbrush instead of that half broken chain cleaning gadget I have. And on the cassette instead of bike brushes which always seem to leave me coated in fine bits of degreaser. Tried it last night for the first time. Worked far better than chain cleaner or bike specific brushes. I’m calling it a cheap hack 🤣🤣🤣🤣