Inmate spars with defense attorney
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- Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
- Defense attorney Jonathan Schildgen cross-examines inmate Daren Eckford during a hearing for Quinn James at the Kent County Courthouse on Friday, June 8, 2018. James, who is a former Kentwood Schools worker, is facing trial for raping a 16-year-old Kentwood girl, Mujey Dumbuya, who was found dead in Kalamazoo.
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Don't ask infantile questions man, loved seeing even the judge smile at that one
@Falcon Everyone, including you, knew that the prosecutor was purposefully patronizing the witness and thats why he was not reprimanded by the judge. Silver spoon had a little power trip and clearly the judge had enough of it, and I guarantee she doesn't like the price either. Once she saw that the witness was intelligent enough to go back at him in a way that was still respectful to the courtroom, she knew the fun was about to begin and let it happen. Just because they are on 2 different sides of the criminal system at rhat moment, doesn't make prosecutor's antics right or acceptable.
@Falcon LOL ok...
Infantile or not, he has to ask the question if he wants that fact entered into evidence. He can’t just skip the “infantile” question and ask the judge/jury to presume this witnesses has been disciplined in prison.
@Falcon thats because there's no respect anymore and he's an idiot who spent 24 years in jail and probably the rest of his life stupid people are always smart ass
@@mrheath4928 24 years in prison now facing even more for more crime he was intelligent enough isn't even close to the argument he was a smart ass which you were not allowed to be in the judge probably wanted to move on with the case I doubt she was empathetic to his superior intelligence..... His and silver spoon who said he didn't have to work hard become an attorney? Just like the guy about to go to jail stupid people are always offended by those who better themselves
24 years in prison? He doesn't give a damn. He got nothing to lose.
Archimedes Blackhearr true
Didn’t hear that last part did ya? Where he said “you only have 12 months left.. and that only happened after you testified against mr ___..”
dude snitched and is going home for doing it 😉
@@Halfstep2024 word they're dumb
The way he said 24 like it was nothing
Idiot attorney
"You don't get to decide."
"I just did, man. I just did(laughing)."
An inmate Matlock.
Samuel L Jackson, he's in everthing.
So is Gary Glitter.
Bruh....Thinking the saaaameame thing....I
Doesnt look or sound like him
Everything*
lmao! funniest comment of the week for me!
That’s how you talk/answer when you have absolutely nothing to lose.
NEITHER IS THIS A SPAR OR IS THAT A DEFENSE ATTORNEY
right but it's alright
The lawyer is someone else's defense atty
@Dillon Chappell, your response is as ignorant as your profile pic... The guy on the stand is a witness and being questioned by a defendant's attorney
OK bootlicker
I'm not the one who supports jackboots that enforce every law on the books. Mind you that these laws were written by politicians, often referred to as crooks, thieves and liars....
When he said "I just did" I laughed at that. He was right, he did decide, hahaha!
Yeah, but only because the lawyer let him. If he was actually all there, instead of just physically present, he could've just turned to the judge and went: "You honor, please instruct the witness to answer." And she almost certainly would've done so - she allowed the question "Did you state, you WOULD have murdered them for the right amout of money?", so why would she not allow the question "What is that amount?" Lazy examination...
@@QemeH the guy is right tho, why should it matter? $5 or $5,000,000,000 it's still murder.
@@Yfrboy The lawyer is trying to establish that the motive was greed (rather than envious rage or something). That's a way to get a first degree over a second degree.
@@QemeH he already said "for the right amount" why would that amount matter?
I see it as the lawyers way of saying how little life was worth to the guy....if he would have said, "$250" it would mean he was willing on killing for $250, which might shock some people more than if he had said $100,000.
(I think the guy was right not to answer as money's worth is subjective.... To a rich person $10,000 is not a lot whereas to a homeless guy that's a fortune.)
@@Yfrboy You're arguing ethics, I'm arguing law...
when i read the title i thought by spar they meant punching eachother, i was wrong
Naim Hussain #CLICKSTERBATING
Verbal sparring
Your not alone !?
That would've been mad dope
There is such a thing as verbal sparring.
Dont ask no infantile questions... Think about the choices you're making. LMAO
The inmate telling a free person to think about their choices ..... lol
@@carshenaeunicebaker1964 He's had a lot more time to think about real shit than that silly lawyer :)
This is not his defense attorney. This attorney sounds like a little kid... "he's answering questions with other questions , wahhh"
Obviously dude must of turned state on someone and is now getting released, this must be that someone's attorney. And that someone is in hot water if that articulate inmate had info on him, and that bozo attorney is defending him.
I guess they didn’t have time to prepare for his testimony. Or, the imbecile defendant can’t tell the difference between a prosecutor and his defense lawyer.
@@DrummerJacob Is that why he is a free man with a stable job living in a mansion, while the attorney is just a miserable inmate that is disrespected and told what to do by CO’s?
This is an example of how NOT to cross-examine a hostile witness.
Retired lawyer/retired judge here, I agree.
I'm not even sure I would call him hostile
At 00:32 the judge smiles at his response, even she knows it was a stupid question. Love it!😂
the judge is a coward who did not control the witness/courtroom.
I didn’t see a smile at all
@@andrewcross8244 I didn't either 😂
Your capacity as a lawyer is a laughing matter. HA
If anybody missed this lawyers last statement, he basically put a hit on this mans head. He literally asked if his testimony granted him lesser of a sentence. He called him out as a "snitch" which in american prison is a death sentence.
It happens literally all the time. This man did 24 years and has zero chance of receiving any retribution from “snitching”. Js
@@r.c.l2569 funny thing is, most people only care when the snitch is weaker than them. I’m not talking physical size. If they know that someone is a killer, then they will not try him. Especially 24 years. Not only that, snitching goes on *ALL THE TIME IN JAIL!* that’s how most people stay in the county, or have good lawyers. Even in state prison and federal, people snitch all the time, and for no reason sometimes.
i still dont get it. can you elaborate?
@@r.c.l2569 not only that, most people don’t do anything to snitches UNLESS it affects them.
@@r.c.l2569 He was recently convicted in this matter he got life with no parole plus 20-30 for the rape. He is never getting out.
"I just did man, I just did" 😂
Why is Samuel L. Jackson being questioned by this lawyer? I guess Pulp Fiction and Jackie Brown were not pretend movies after all.
@@freddiearmstrong121 doesnt look or sound like samuel l
That’s gangster af this dude
I don’t see any wrongdoing on the witnesses part. It’s an adversarial relationship. It’s okay for a witness to not cooperate with a questioning attorney. The goal is to make the attorney work hard in gathering testimony, and to disrupt his strategy. Cooperation in ones annihilation is not mandatory.
It's actually the attorney's job to formulate the questions in such a way as to minimize the latitude the witness has to go afield and not answer the question directly. If you give a convict an opening, he's for damn sure going to take it - that's what they do all day long in prison.
Honestly it looks like this man had spent stone time reading up on law. He knows the right answers and when he can push back without getting into trouble.
Even knew he didnt have to answer about what someone else saw
Wrong he was a hostile witness and the judge is a joke for letting him act that way. A real judge will correct it
This was his defense counsel.
@@usa5439 It’s a lawyer’s job to be able to know what kind of witness you’re dealing with some are supportive to your case some are neutral some are hostile. This witness was hostile yes, but that’s when a smart lawyer asks the right questions to get the right answers. That’s the difference between getting ahead of the game vs chasing behind it.
Just stamp your little form sonny, and stop wasting my time.
Nice reference LOL
As you wish Morgan Freeman.
Maybe it's because I'm Irish.
@@mikekopf1173 Because to tell you truth,I don't really give a dam.
One of the greatest things I’ve ever read.
Thought he was defending himself until I heard the word
“objection” 🙄
he is witness,it was defendant lawyer who objected.
The judge smiling when he said don't all me any infantile questions.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
"Ever been in trouble in the past 24 years"
Ask that to most folk never in prison, and they'll be a slightly evasive. :D
he should've replied, you ever had a speeding fine in 24 years or less of driving?
where did he buy his law degree?
he borrowed It from Google U
Trump university
Cracker Jack box
@@markharrison6498 always that one beta out there making things political.
@@RebelGaming4U the fact that trump university is corrupt and a shite uni has nothing to do with politics
When you have nothing to lose, is when you can truly be yourself. Thats the real freedom.
America's prisons are full with people who got nothing to lose...Thats why they are so violent, also for the people who work in them...you guys never hear " when you treat people like animals, they act like animals" ? Your justice system is nothing but a joke..it's that simple..
No. That is an illusory freedom. Prisoners and unhoused people are not free. Prisoners are told what to do, how to do it, and where to do it. Unhoused people have to get enough money each day to eat or face going to bed hungry. Sound free to you? Yeah, both groups of people can poop their pants everyday in that level of freedom if they want. They can rip their pants off and call themselves the King of England too! But the prisoner will be sent to solitary. The unhoused person will probably have found it more difficult to get the money needed to purchase a sandwich in that attire... So, there is no true, unadulterated freedom. There is only the illusion of pure freedom.
If I ever get called to testify, when the bailiff asks me if I swear to tell truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, I'm going to say no. That way I can't get charged with perjury.
This judge is a joke. No control in the courtroom, smiling at this obviously uncooperative witnesss' attitude which should have put him in. contempt. He is basically allowed to decide which questions he'll answer and can also berate the lawyer - all with no problem with this judge. No wonder they're a dime a dozen and are replaced often.
Most are
How any juror believes a jailhouse snitch is beyond me.
I think this man has been to court more then that attorney! Slick suits dont make you a smart man.
He had to let him know at the end... you a snitch right? Right. Lol
Spar definition:
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you spar with someone, you exchange light blows - either literally by punching each other, or figuratively by exchanging verbal blows. If you box, you might spar with an opponent at the gym while you're training. You don't strike too hard - it's just practice.
0:32 i had the same smile on my face as the judge when i heard that question.
She smiled at his response.
Do you mean prosecuting attorney? Doubt he would be “sparring” with his own attorney
You do realize a prosecuting attorney is still an attorney, right?
@@AllAmericanGuy01 You do realise the title says "defense attorney" right?
@@Neverod8doreveN No
@@AllAmericanGuy01To be fair, the original commenter assumes the inmate is the defendant. Which is incorrect. Read the description as well as the title. ;)
AllAmericanGuy01 go back to sleep lol
That wasnt sparring, that inmate owned the prosecutor 🤣😂
This must be the lawyer’s first trial 🤦🏽♀️
Everyone is talking about the attorney is bad. I disagree, this judge is horrible. How do you just let the witness blurt out whatever he wants and dodge questions? Control your courtroom.
Totally agree
Because it is not the responsibility of the judge to object to someone’s testimony. The judge will only intervene when counsel objects to testimony.
Because of this, it’s 100% bad lawyering.
The judge smiling at :33 is the best part of the video
If you think that you need your head examined. Judge is allowing the witness to be a clown
Who is that attorney sposed to be defending?? That inmate is being contemptuous of the court a lot, why is not that judge slamming him for that.
Wow, that guy is a very good Samuel Jackson impersonator!
Pretty upitty for a criminal. Obviously needs to be broken.
🤨
This is what kind of lawyer you get when they ask you if you need a free court appointed lawyer. You gotta $$ PAY $$ for the good lawyers.....
I think it’s hilarious when an inmate has more law knowledge than a State Attorney.
this dude raped a 16 year old, nice sticking up for him
This was Lame. 2:25 Seconds I will never get back in my life.
Yo mamma lamr
Martin De Los santos Must be you in the video you lame
Wake up 2 minutes and 25 seconds earlier tomorrow.
I want the inmate as my defense attorney
Dude.... I mean the guy was funny and all, but that Judge has no control over the courtroom.
She should be fired! Let’s find her name and remove her from civil service.
I’d just go to jail and plead guilty before this “lawyer” represents me. To make matters worse, he’s probably the DA!!!
Cesar B 😂😂😂😂
Did you bother to read the description? Didn’t think so
the american court system is a joke
The court system is fine, you are just not intelligent enough to understand it.
@@highlanderneal6509 "You're just not intelligent enough to understand it". Says the guy who can't speak for all the discrepancies on the part of our faulty judicially system and all the people falsely imprisoned. Imbecile.
@Sir Tristan
Sir trash I like to lecture you in all the nonsense that goen on in our court system but I'll be to much your narrow mind to understand... please take care
benchmstr so I have to leave my country to know how corrupt it is? Your a fucking moron and that’s blatantly obvious...... our entire government is corrupt from the top down....I don’t need to go somewhere else to realize this...... and if your inferring that America’s system isn’t as bad as other countries.... well I don’t give a fuck about other countries
Eko Flo what court system is better ? And how is it a joke
"Just like you, man. I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase."
Few things out of the ordinary here: First the courtroom looks more like a class room and even the judge looks like a school hostel overseer aunty, hahaha. Then the defendent sists smartly behind a desk of his own. This looks lile a very easy casual courtroom
I believe this is a prison hearing. Which are run differently
Hes not laughing like Haha hes laughing at the ridiculousness of what Counsel is saying
@Jill and Soph Hobes I’m looking at this like where is he going with this, even the judge was like what the fuck is this shit here
But the man is still guilty
The judge shouldn't have allowed this exchange
Why is he sparring with his lawyer,don't you mean the district attorney
The man isnt the suspect on trial, hes a witness for the prosecution against the suspect. You gotta read the discription.
Yeah he snitched on someone.
Dang man, I've never been to Law School, but from just having watched Law and Order most of my life, I'd make a better attorney than this clown.
Was rooting for the inmate.
@southern daze hey dipshit, every person that has been placed on the registry, convicted or accused are not always guilty or bad people. How do you know it was a pedophile case anyway? Was he touching children sexually that were under 13? That is the only way a person could be a pedophile, is for 13 and younger, pedophilia is the sexual desire for pre pubescent children!!!
22mrranger ur right so when u see or meet someone that is registered just assume they’re not guilty
@@craigsejda7157 take a buddy of mine, ex wife told the cops he touched the 2 kids, then he is arrested, they do an investigation after his arrest, doesnt make sense does it. They questioned the kids, they say dad never touched them, no evidence of any sexual assault or even activity on either one, then, he spends a year in jail, he goes to trial with no evidence against him and everything against the ex wife and the prosecution. He is convicted of his charges all off of a story, then had to register, looses his kids, custody, and job. He looses everything, then 6 years later, after he did 3 in prison the rest on parole, the guy the ex wife was dating, had gotten drunk with the ex wife, and she admitted to him she lied and made it all up for money and to ruin his life. He recorded her 5 times admitting to it all and sleeping with the judge to get it to happen her way. The boyfriend takes it to my buddy, they take it to his lawyer, they file a lawsuit and the proper paperwork for an appeal, and wrongful suit. Takes 3 years, he wins big, he gets his record cleared, and she has to pay, and lost custody of both kids, and spent the next 4 years in prison, the judge is removed, imprisoned for 10, which he is currently still in federal prison in Leavenworth. Even with the win, and the clearing of his record, my best friend still lost everything, and his reputation, and his life for to long for lies. So when it comes to everyone on the registry i dont believe the case until i know the truth. My friend was innocent, and was wrongly convicted, it happens to often, there is others that pee on the side of the road, and get put on there, you wanna tell me they're some kind of dangerous criminal for releasing urine?
22mrranger i understand flaws in the legal system, my father spent a lot of time due to some bullshit. However, when it comes to raping someone or molesting kids i have no sympathy. Are there cases where people innocent are found guilty? Yes. Is that the case usually? No. Id say almost all of the child molesters that are incarcerated are guilty. And the fact that u are sitting here defending every child molester because your friend got “wrongly” convicted of molesting his kids which he probably did. U sound ignorant. U must not have kids? If u do...sheeeeeeesh. Get a clue, people like this get killed in prison for a reason
22mrranger and i just reread ur comment and i wish i didnt because its so stupid. So ur telling me that if u touch a 14 and ur 35 that not a pedophile and not molestation?? Basically what ur saying is that 13 yr old children can give consent to sex to adults
That's good...
he got him to admit that he lied in a court .
and that he had a reduced sentence after he gave information on a different person
That's about all he got him to do lol! Sorry, but he was no match for that dude lol!
“Do you think it’s a laughing matter?” Bruh we’re was the inmates lawyer on that one lol
What his defense lawyer is saying: You're guilty. Period. Bring him back to jail for the rest of his life. In solitary confinement.
The judge is a laughing matter for this to occur in her courtroom
Seems this guy is in no position to be arrogant.
Awee I thought the judge was going to let them throw hands.. Shit if they both agreed😂
This is not a defense attorney cross-examining him. He wouldn't be arguing with his own client.
The real crime is that sandal and sock combination on the far table.
The sandal/sock combo was lit in the nineties.
Seems like the inmate is a prosecution witness providing testimony against the defendant possibly in exchange for leniency.
You're talking to a super og on the stand! You two barely share the same space 🤣🤣
leading the witness almost every time. great lawyer as well as speculation and every other thing.
Witnesses can be asked leading questions if the judge finds them to be hostile, and during cross-examinations, witnesses are assumed to be hostile. (Otherwise the other attorney would have objected unless they knew the question wasn't going to damage their case.)
This attorney was out over his skies with this guy lol.
Who expected actual “Sparing”?
🧐
No one. Some might have been expecting sparring however.
I expected verbal sparing and I barely got that... idc who’s wrong or right until I see all the evidence this is pretty clear cut why can’t I get the evidence!?!?! It would really help law enforcement to make it all public
Misleading title. I expected a sparring match.
The legend says: “The attorney was graduated from the Law School of Donald Trump University!”
So basically he got 25 years for SNITCHING.
It's not called snitching anymore its called tekashi 69'ing or 69'ing for short.
And still NO respect. He may get out in 12 months but bet he goes back in within 6 months!
I feel bad about this situation. I mean the dudes obviously someone who been acting like that his whole life, but no one ever took the time to let him be heard. No family did ever.
Per the description, the hearing is not for the person on the stand in this video.
You have to give the inmate some credit in this situation. This Attorney thought he was hot Shitt but got shot down fast lol.
Yo, sorry but that criminal was cool AF lol!
Wow this lawyer is really, REALLY terrible at his job. Not a dude that is going to win over any judge or jury that's for sure.
The attorney in question is most likely a public defender... Who would actually pay money for his services?
Why is the judge allowing this disrespect to continue
Because the lawyer is an idiot.
The judge isn’t obligated to force a witness to respect an attorney. That’s why.
The judge seems to have become beloved with just a little smirk.
I’m quite surprised the judge let the guy on the stand continue with the antics. A good judge would have warned the defendant. Judge was asleep but hey more power to the guy.
A good lawyer will never go down this rabbit hole when cross-examining a hostile witness. You have to be able to adapt to the situation posed by the witness and change your questions and the way you deliver them. And running to the judge on each and every question just makes you look like an incompetent buffoon. If he was a good attorney, he would have been able to turn the witness's arrogance and over-confidence against him. Instead, he gave a convict the upper hand. And if there's one thing a lifer knows, it's what to do when he has the upper hand.
True that
He knew the law better than the lawyer
The Judge should have stepped in instead of letting an inmate disrespect the process.
Judge is a typical prosecutor judge who is determined to help the state/government railroad the defense. I bet of the prosecutor were the one asking these questions, the judge would be threatening to hold this witness in contempt within seconds. I LOL at all the people who think this defense lawyer sucks. They have no idea what it's like when the judge and the prosecutor are tag-teaming the defense. Even Atticus Finch can look weak in those circumstances.
@@trafalgarlawn7124 That wasn't a prosecutor questioning that witness was testifying against the attorneys client and the attorney is trying to imply he is only doing so because he is getting his remaining time in jail reduced. The inmate is not a a defense witness but a prosecution witness.
@@Stryyder1 There was a typo in my post, but my point was that if the prosecutor were the one asking this witness questions, the judge would not have allowed the witness to display the utter lack of candor he displayed here and would have quickly held this witness in contempt. But because it was a state witness, the judge simply sat back and giggled. Terrible judge, but then the criminal justice system is full of them.
It’s clear who the smartest one in the room is.
What a lousy attorney. Sure, the inmate is acting like a career criminal, but so what? He's a career criminal. But the attorney is pathetic.
Lmao! “I just did tho man!” Savage and awesome!
The inmate is great lmao. This was just sad for the attorney. He got put in his place over and over and kept coming back for more lmfao.
That inmate is being tried for raping a 16 year old girl
@@garrettgreen9667 read again
"Spars" is a pretty strong word
Arms folded with one hand up on his face = embarrassment alert.
He's so intelligent I'm surprised he even got locked up or didn't become a high paid attorney himself 😂😂😂
Rochester The Clown 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Why is everyone saying he’s got nothing to lose. If you listen to the last part, the dude snitched and that’s the reason he’s getting out in 12 months.
I came here expecting a sick sparring match to see who tapped out, I am disappointed.
I’ve never before seen anything like this in my life. This is one of the most alpha and based individuals I have ever seen. His levels are absolutely off the charts - the science can’t explain it. In handcuffs and prison garb, this guy posterizes this attorney over and over without breaking a sweat. Inspiring.
You have weird inspirations
@@khbgkh whatever it takes my guy
His "alpha" mentality got him locked up for raping a woman and accused of killing a teenager. He seems like a fucking loser to me but what do I know.
@@seananderson5334 I disavow rape man. However you cannot deny is alpha presence. It is a shame he did not channel his gift by way of using it for something constructive/positive. A lot of wasted potential on display right here no doubt.
@@burntorangefan23 I will deny his "alpha presence." He's a loser. Maybe you should readjust what you think is alpha behavior.
At the end of the day and the trial one man will be going home to his own crib to eat his own food, shower in his own bathroom and sleep in his own bed.
The other man will be returning to his cage because he gave up on himself somewhere along the way.
Tragic.
Based on the video's title, I was expecting more physicality.
Is this someone else’s defense attorney? Seems weird he would give his own defense attorney a hard time lol
At least Eckford is honest. Lol
This attorney is horrible.
How many years of law school do you have that from a 2:24 second video you already know enough to call the attorney "horrible"?
@@antonioacevedo5200 To be fair, he was a little emotional, and emotion can affect decision making and thinking.
What kind of judge allows that kind of disrespect in court proceedings? Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying all lawyers are worthy of respect - but whatever your feelings toward a lawyer may be - you are obliged to answer questions honestly and in a straightforward manner - and the questions seem fair to me.
Linda C.
A witness who is not present and cannot be called to give fact testimony is hearsay the judge was holding court correctly check the rules of evidence
I'm familiar with that rule Dre and I have no problem with it - it's a good rule. Perhaps I didn't communicate accurately with the way I made my comment but it was the guy's smartass, combative demeanour that I was referring to.
Linda C lol oh ok yea he was a smart ass infantile questions lmao
I'm not laughing at you Dre, I think you made a good point in your first comment. I was just expressing my point of view. I hope you have a nice day.
That defense attorney sucks at his job. When the judge has to remind you of what inappropriate questioning is, you fail. Go back and read court procedures book.
Doesn't matter when you have nothing to lose.
I was waiting for them to square up and start throwing punches...
fuckin' Samuel L Jackson answering questions in court
the second i observed the judge smirking and laughing at me over a defendant non-answer, i would have moved for a mistrial
because judges arent allowed to laugh ever?
@@danieldpt impartial judges shouldnt laugh along with attorneys jibes, no. they shouldnt. its not a fucking comedy club, ya know?
He also made the mistake of asking non open ended questions which implies one answer.
Why was this worthy of being uploaded to youtube? Lol