Ken Loach: Superhero movies are boring

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  • Опубликовано: 20 окт 2019
  • It's an issue that's proving potentially as divisive as Brexit... superhero films.
    They may have dominated the box office over the last 10 years but award winning directors are now lining up to criticise them.
    Martin Scorsese calls them "theme parks", Francis Ford Coppola says they're "despicable" and now Ken Loach has told Sky News they're "boring" and "cynical".
    He was speaking to Sky's entertainment correspondent Lucy Cotter.
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Комментарии • 150

  • @uwotm8
    @uwotm8 3 года назад +54

    The boring thing about superhero films is that it's the exact same storyline every time. There's an overpowered superhero, who has some sort of weakness, which the villain tries to use to their advantage but fail in the end. Are we all supposed to act surprised when the protagonist overcomes all to win? I don't want to know the ending before I've even started the film.
    The only superhero films that I think are worth watching is Unbreakable and The Dark Knight trilogy.

    • @uwotm8
      @uwotm8 3 года назад

      @@myBquest I like that they went for a different angle but in the end the same old clichés were used. I feel like they could done a much better job.

    • @darkbrandon8431
      @darkbrandon8431 3 года назад +3

      I mean logan, man of steel, birdman, joker, x men days of future past, watchmen etc. I think they are worth watching as well. Not your typical villains finding a superheroes weakness and exploiting it. Watchmen is literally one of the best comic book movies ever made where there is no villain.

    • @jonfee5081
      @jonfee5081 Год назад +1

      @@darkbrandon8431 birdman is not a superhero movie

  • @somewherelongago
    @somewherelongago 4 года назад +150

    They hate him because he's right

    • @KingJmizZle
      @KingJmizZle 3 года назад +5

      I don't hate him. But I still enjoy Superhero movies

    • @heh9719
      @heh9719 3 года назад +1

      If he actually read the comics..

    • @kylorl3
      @kylorl3 3 года назад +3

      it’s one thing to say they’re not good movies or that they’re not cinema. but to say that they’re boring as just absolute stupidity. thats literally the one thing people go see these movies for is the action.

    • @uttaradit2
      @uttaradit2 2 года назад +3

      but mostly because he's left

    • @romieanime4614
      @romieanime4614 2 года назад +1

      @@heh9719 but sometimes movie different from it's source "comic" so he has his point thoo

  • @vishalsorout
    @vishalsorout 3 года назад +98

    He's absolutely correct about his assessment of this fad. I just don't understand how can anybody get excited about the green screen/CGI cringefest year after year.

    • @KingJmizZle
      @KingJmizZle 3 года назад +3

      Because people have different tastes in movies. There is legit nothing wrong with these movies. And don't all most every movie uses Green screen and CGI? So how is it bad when Superhero/comic book movies do it

    • @Coneman3
      @Coneman3 3 года назад +22

      @@KingJmizZle They are shallow and unoriginal, which is why move makers love them. They're easy to make and thick people like them.

    • @darkbrandon8431
      @darkbrandon8431 3 года назад +2

      ​ @JAS0N_XZ I mean marvel movies are bland and boring but fox and dc movies and other superhero movies and shows are really good.

    • @SaguarosPlants
      @SaguarosPlants 2 года назад

      Imagine that, human perception and opinion is varied. What an absurd notion.

    • @notacaulkhead
      @notacaulkhead 2 года назад +1

      People don’t want to go to the cinema to be presented with a bleak version of their own reality. Some people do, but most do not. The majority of movie goers are looking for escapism.

  • @lukeyznaga7627
    @lukeyznaga7627 3 года назад +17

    yes, superhero movies are commodities. Especially now that the DISNEY PLUS streaming marvel shows...are LIVING ADVERTISEMENTS for upcoming Marvel movies.

  • @maryrose4712
    @maryrose4712 4 года назад +24

    I saw Cathy come home in the 60's and I've never
    forgotten it, it had such an impact.

  • @havebadday7850
    @havebadday7850 4 года назад +18

    Martin is right . The superhero stuff is getting old now . Nothing new, no character progression, no advance story telling , just flat characters

  • @m1ke1981
    @m1ke1981 4 года назад +32

    Daniel Blake broke me. 😢

    • @usmank03
      @usmank03 3 года назад +1

      the ending caught me off guard

    • @user-kl4bh4lq6r
      @user-kl4bh4lq6r 2 месяца назад

      Never seen it looks a depressing??? Film 🎥

  • @stringmonkey568
    @stringmonkey568 4 года назад +14

    Super hero movies are boring, because giving them super hero powers eliminates their ability to compete with the rest of us.

    • @adamsmith4813
      @adamsmith4813 5 месяцев назад

      And the fight scenes just go on and on

  • @paulashford4155
    @paulashford4155 3 года назад +6

    Ken Loach is the real hero

  • @STEVENHARTLEY1
    @STEVENHARTLEY1 4 года назад +20

    Asking Ken Loach (whose work and calibre consist of realist and socialist sensibilities. Marginal budgets. Anti-Hollywood in style) about his opinion on superhero films, let alone blockbuster films; is simply a ridiculous question one could ask of Loach! Some film "journalists" really are abysmal.

    • @fernada8944
      @fernada8944 Год назад +1

      Exactly! And she was so insistent, the only objective there was a good headline. And she made it, and we all get caught.

    • @adamsmith4813
      @adamsmith4813 5 месяцев назад +2

      I'm glad she asked it though. I've hated these films for yrs, now that the greats such as Loach, Scorsese and Coppola condemn them I feel better

  • @thomasriveramontes9550
    @thomasriveramontes9550 4 года назад +54

    Clickbait...imagine interviewing one of the most accomplished directors of our times/have him talk about his new film for 2 minutes but decide to title the video after an answer he gives on a series of movies with such marketing budgets that they don't need further free publicity. I like Marvel movies and obviously, it is fair for the journalist to ask that question but titling the video after that response rather than what he came here for, the promotion of his film? Sad...

    • @deplaneetegmont
      @deplaneetegmont 4 года назад +5

      It's not even that, the title is simply false. Ken said he finds them boring, not that they ARE boring. There's a world of difference between the two.

    • @666chapelofblood
      @666chapelofblood 2 года назад

      @@deplaneetegmont They are boring.

  • @cromerbeach
    @cromerbeach 4 года назад +9

    KES brilliant movie

  • @Hulkolish
    @Hulkolish 2 года назад +4

    Totally agreed

  • @Coneman3
    @Coneman3 3 года назад +8

    I'm totally with him that they are boring. They're as shallow as our culture, and easy to churn out.

  • @SkinnyEMedia
    @SkinnyEMedia Год назад +3

    He's not wrong. Superhero cinema are soulless corporate fodder although some titles have its convictions (BLACK PANTHER, which is pretty woke/left wing for its confinements, WATCHMEN) and the more comedic, satirical ones (THE MASK, SUPER)

    • @Yetaxa
      @Yetaxa 9 месяцев назад

      well Watchmen is very deliberately an anti-super hero comic book, and its creator Alan Moore has said similar things about the modern Marvel movies

  • @josephingrao5556
    @josephingrao5556 4 года назад +11

    Very well said Ken

  • @goofed86
    @goofed86 4 года назад +14

    He's right

  • @jonathanmulondo9206
    @jonathanmulondo9206 4 года назад +11

    Nobody should be surprised when old school directors express Disdain for Superhero movies.

    • @williamh5780
      @williamh5780 4 года назад +16

      Adults in general. It's clingy that super hero films are as popular as they are with ppl over 20 now.

    • @peterpeters1662
      @peterpeters1662 4 года назад +17

      Nobody should be surprised when true film artists express disdain for superhero movies. It's got nothing to do with age. It's a question of taste.

    • @ellisckymu
      @ellisckymu 4 года назад +10

      @@peterpeters1662 and maturity. people are escaping from real life and their real feeling by watching those superficial movie with calculated formula

  • @mazdak94
    @mazdak94 3 года назад +3

    My fav director

  • @djjlc
    @djjlc 4 года назад +1

    I’ll keep saying it 150 grand a year with Tenure as a minimum and we won’t have these issues!

  • @npe9483
    @npe9483 4 года назад +16

    I would argue that genre cinema, especially fantasy, horror and science fiction can often expose the realities of real life more effectively than dramas through powerful metaphors and beautiful symbolism. The best horror films and sci fi movies are very political. That said, I agree about the MCU. They are corporate trash.

    • @lotusinn3
      @lotusinn3 4 года назад +1

      NPE 94 I mean, aren’t all films (especially universe bases) corporate trash? Film Is a business..

    • @keninjc89
      @keninjc89 4 года назад

      The Motion of Pictures not everything

    • @SkinnyEMedia
      @SkinnyEMedia Год назад

      PEOPLE UNDER THE STAIRS (horror) + SHAPE OF WATER (fantasy) + ELYSIUM or any Neill Blomkamp film (sci-fi) passes this test?

  • @ubiquiquit
    @ubiquiquit 9 месяцев назад +1

    William Blake 🌹

  • @davidjames579
    @davidjames579 4 года назад +24

    Funny to think that Joker has more in common with Ken Loach's films than Comic Book ones. The highest grossing R rated film ever, and it portrays a vulnerable man let down by the system and an uncaring, money driven society in itself. Obviously his response to this is wrong, but we see how he got there.
    The fact it's reaching such synchronicity with millions of people should be heartening. Joker doesn't have these issues as wallpaper to action sequences, the film is a tough slog, and on what we see the character go through, so that people are going back for multiple viewings means something special in the era of Comic Book Spectacles dominating screens.

    • @keninjc89
      @keninjc89 4 года назад +16

      Yes because joker is mostly a copy paste of legendary movies like taxi driver, king of comedy, cuckoos nest

    • @End-Result
      @End-Result 2 года назад +1

      Exactly. The Joker shows us the very “internal” world Loach is talking about here.

    • @Johnnysmithy24
      @Johnnysmithy24 2 года назад +8

      Joker is just a blockbuster disguised as an art film. The reason it earned so much money is the same reason the superhero movies earn so much money, it has a beloved pop culture character in the title.

    • @bluebellbeatnik4945
      @bluebellbeatnik4945 Год назад +2

      i really like joker but it doesn't typically suit the american audience. that sympathy has gone.

    • @bluebellbeatnik4945
      @bluebellbeatnik4945 Год назад +1

      @@keninjc89 it sort of is a pastiche but i did like it

  • @jasoneaton9477
    @jasoneaton9477 3 года назад +2

    They really are boring to watch

  • @stevenclark6209
    @stevenclark6209 4 года назад +13

    Agree there boring.

  • @marco1939
    @marco1939 2 года назад +2

    Big up à la classe d'anglais

  • @Widdekuu91
    @Widdekuu91 9 месяцев назад

    He said he FINDS them boring, not that they are boring.

  • @davidbarnett9312
    @davidbarnett9312 4 года назад +8

    Economics 101: the law of supply and demand. The public demands superhero films and Hollywood supplies them as long as they are blockbusters at the box office. It's all about the money.

    • @deplaneetegmont
      @deplaneetegmont 4 года назад +6

      That's just not true. If that's what the people want, then why the need to advertise? Why spend billions of dollars or pounds or whatever, to 'sell' something to us which we want anyway? The demand IS supplied. It's a closed loop.

  • @SkinnyEMedia
    @SkinnyEMedia Год назад +1

    I'm surprised Sky News interviewed him despite their right-wing rubbish.

  • @ivicapavic3381
    @ivicapavic3381 4 года назад +5

    Extremely. The originality in screenwriting has all but died.

  • @StickermanChronicles
    @StickermanChronicles 4 года назад +25

    The working class people (me included) he highlights in his films are the very people who go to the cinema to watch those popcorn superhero movies for a heavy dose of escapism. It isn't cynical, its about having a good time with your family and/or friends for a couple of hours.

    • @jsmesoercy6436
      @jsmesoercy6436 4 года назад +2

      Is your first name Owen and your second Jones

    • @StickermanChronicles
      @StickermanChronicles 4 года назад +1

      @@jsmesoercy6436 Oh I'm not a labour supporter, I'm actually a Libertarian.

    • @IHaveNoIdeaWhatsGoingOn
      @IHaveNoIdeaWhatsGoingOn 3 года назад

      Precisely. Well said. I just want to switch off for 2hours.

    • @zufgh
      @zufgh 2 года назад +1

      Agreed. Filmmakers like Ken Loach making interminable movies about the supposed plight of the working class is precisely the reason why British cinema is so incredibly dull, unvaried, miserable and practically non-existent.

    • @fxmorin439
      @fxmorin439 2 года назад +5

      To hard for your puny mind to watch a real movie?

  • @jhjhjhjhjhjhify
    @jhjhjhjhjhjhify 2 года назад +1

    I find a lot of MCU films boring myself, but I also found Logan brilliant. A lot of people rate Nolan's Dark Knight trilogy quite highly too. Like it or not all these films are cinema, and many people seem to get a lot out of MCU films on an emotional level which they might not do with Loach's films.

  • @malakbourouis398
    @malakbourouis398 2 года назад +1

    2:18

  • @japan32japan
    @japan32japan 4 года назад +26

    superheroe films are indeed boring !!!!

    • @redreaper5083
      @redreaper5083 4 года назад

      People who like superhero movie brain have been raped by dog Lamo ;)

    • @keninjc89
      @keninjc89 4 года назад

      Agreed (only exception is Nolan’s trilogy)

    • @kevzsabz8253
      @kevzsabz8253 4 года назад

      @@keninjc89 and The Original Spider Man trilogy also with Tobey Maguire. Those movies are still way better than any of Tom Holland's movies 👍👍

  • @MSkallywagg
    @MSkallywagg 4 года назад +5

    Superhero movies are for the people who have no clue what real cinema is it's a quick fix just like online games etc

    • @darkbrandon8431
      @darkbrandon8431 3 года назад +3

      Not all superheroes but those mcu movies.

    • @konanelbarbaro1221
      @konanelbarbaro1221 2 года назад

      @@darkbrandon8431 correct

    • @Johnnysmithy24
      @Johnnysmithy24 2 года назад

      At least games have always been an entertainment form. Cinema has been an art form since the beginning and now it has become a theme park

  • @rogerhaddad2588
    @rogerhaddad2588 2 года назад

    A Few Real Directors Make real Movies for few of Us That all , like Frederic Nietzsche once said Only sick music(Movies) makes money today.

  • @hayleyanna2625
    @hayleyanna2625 7 месяцев назад

    An important film. ❤️

  • @mojothcjoe6634
    @mojothcjoe6634 4 года назад +4

    With Fantasy comes preference, preference flourishes under variety which is the SPICE of life.

  • @uttaradit2
    @uttaradit2 2 года назад

    Ken Loach and 'Super Vanman'.......

  • @morganmm5860
    @morganmm5860 2 года назад

    Bonjour

  • @hsu6246
    @hsu6246 3 года назад +1

    Yes they Boring but they dont care its makes the rich billions that's the truth $$$$$£€

  • @jamesparker4471
    @jamesparker4471 4 года назад +4

    Its all about not offending china and islam.
    Bad guys are always White people or monsters from Pluto.

    • @Infinitystar225
      @Infinitystar225 4 года назад +2

      James Parker heroes are usually white as well

  • @beaconing7689
    @beaconing7689 Год назад

    Superhero movies are predictable, it's always the happy ending; there is no twist just plain same old formula 😐

  • @cianog
    @cianog 2 года назад

    Yet he expects people to spend money to watch his work. If cinema was dependent on his films it would be dead.

  • @jimmyalonso1869
    @jimmyalonso1869 4 года назад +1

    saludos desde México.!!!!!

  • @tombradford7035
    @tombradford7035 2 года назад

    "Clark Kent? About your disability living allowance claim..."

  • @SanAntonioSlim
    @SanAntonioSlim 4 года назад +1

    Free advertising air time...or maybe this news media company also owns the movie production studio who produced this guy's movie that no one wants to buy tickets to see? They really pull your strings with this..."we're all smarter than the mob...go see my movie" form of info-advertisement?

  • @SuperHeroStoriesUnlimited
    @SuperHeroStoriesUnlimited 2 года назад

    They are only tiresome because superman is boring

  • @malakbourouis398
    @malakbourouis398 2 года назад

    2.18

  • @tsep9232
    @tsep9232 4 года назад +16

    Anyone above 18 should be banned from going to the cinema hall to watch superheroes movies.

    • @Johnnysmithy24
      @Johnnysmithy24 2 года назад

      Not banned, but definitely laughed at lol

  • @x3nine96
    @x3nine96 4 года назад +3

    Superhero movies are super boring.

  • @darrenkearns3134
    @darrenkearns3134 4 года назад +4

    Box office records beg to differ

    • @blackham7
      @blackham7 4 года назад +4

      Based Answer Popularity isnt a measure of quality

    • @rowanfarmer9029
      @rowanfarmer9029 Год назад

      @@blackham7 yeah it is

  • @herexcelencyebba6123
    @herexcelencyebba6123 4 года назад +7

    I always enjoy myself when I watch superhero movies

  • @arkanbosil2511
    @arkanbosil2511 4 года назад +1

    اول تعلیق😜😂

  • @mohammed3aziz671
    @mohammed3aziz671 4 года назад +2

    So true MCU movies are just boorrriinnggg

  • @septillion2501
    @septillion2501 4 года назад +6

    And in related news, the ghost of Beethoven has just released a statement calling Kendrick Lamar’s music “boring”

  • @Kris_1708
    @Kris_1708 4 года назад +5

    They are getting boring but the new joker film was outstanding!

    • @Kris_1708
      @Kris_1708 4 года назад +1

      John Doe it was based on the comic book the killing joke which was released in 1988.

    • @Johnnysmithy24
      @Johnnysmithy24 2 года назад

      @@Kris_1708 It has literally nothing to do with The Killing Joke

  • @gungadin900
    @gungadin900 2 года назад

    Ken has some interesting things to say about Film here, But Sky try and make this clip in to Ken slagging off a particular genre. poor journalism, but no surprise.

  • @UpTheMags74
    @UpTheMags74 4 года назад +3

    When is he going to focus on the middle class and how unwanted their interfering in the lives of the working class are. Utter slime.

  • @solidoperative
    @solidoperative 2 года назад +3

    Bit rich from Ken saying super hero films are boring. His portfolio is so dull.

    • @patcampton9799
      @patcampton9799 2 года назад +1

      But he is making films about reality for many people. Marvelfilms are fantasy and give people a break from reality. Both genres are ok but a real message comes with Loaches films.

    • @solidoperative
      @solidoperative 2 года назад +2

      @@patcampton9799 I don't think Ken's films are truly reflective. I think he reduces real life to base principles and over simplifies.

    • @patcampton9799
      @patcampton9799 2 года назад +1

      @@solidoperative He does a lot of research and uses real.life stories within his films. Plenty of People had Daniel Blake type problems with the DWP. I think they are pretty authentic.

    • @solidoperative
      @solidoperative 2 года назад +2

      @@patcampton9799 He portrays exceptional real life tragedy as common place, for me there is something dishonest about that.

  • @Advancedfunker
    @Advancedfunker 4 года назад +6

    Oh god how many crap movies have I watched in 50 years ......?????
    How much have I enjoyed the last ten years of marvel ..... I’m in fricking exctasy...never enjoyed films so much seeing childhood come to life on full screen

  • @markkavanagh7377
    @markkavanagh7377 4 года назад

    Blake died bitter in penury

  • @KosovanWarrior1
    @KosovanWarrior1 4 года назад +3

    THANOS is coming

  • @jspence8863
    @jspence8863 2 года назад +1

    This guy just sounds jealous because nobody is watching his movies anymore or giving him money to do so
    Comes off really petty 😒

  • @michaelpettersen2243
    @michaelpettersen2243 4 года назад +10

    As someone who has seen several of Ken Loach's films, he's in dangerous waters calling any other films boring.

  • @paulgibbons2320
    @paulgibbons2320 4 года назад

    Fine artists think comic book art is no good.
    Fact is. If these people were making anything better. Nobody would go to see them.
    Star wars got universally slammed by critics. Never has a movie been more universally loved.
    No snobbery like the creative click.
    They don't have to be the only movies studios put out.
    What is boring is that super hero movies seem to be the only choice we have at the moment.
    I get bored of eating cake. Does not mean I have to critique every baker.
    If these directors are currently making movies more appealing than marvel movies. I accept what they have to say.
    If they are currently not doing anything of interest. Sorry but it's just sour grapes.

  • @funkycowie
    @funkycowie 4 года назад +1

    This interview is boring. Cinema is all of what he is said but the superheroes movies also reflect that too, when money is discussed art does not stop. He is insulting everyone that works so hard to create the imagery of these movies, he just doesn't understand them so chooses to blind himself like Coppola and Scorsese.

    • @trexH66
      @trexH66 3 года назад +1

      What is there to understand?
      He is an amazing filmaker and the nuances in his films sadly bypass the minds of those that have been indoctrinated to not think for themselves

    • @rowanfarmer9029
      @rowanfarmer9029 Год назад

      @@trexH66 if his films are so good,why isn't he on top of the box office

    • @napalmslayer
      @napalmslayer Год назад

      Because the general public is dumb

  • @redberries8039
    @redberries8039 4 года назад +2

    I'm no fan of superhero movies, but with one or two exceptions Loach's films are painful.

    • @redberries8039
      @redberries8039 4 года назад

      ..umm on Marvel >> GoTG and Ragnarok were good tho...

  • @thrillhausen8858
    @thrillhausen8858 4 года назад +1

    Ken Loach is boring

  • @TheValeyard92
    @TheValeyard92 23 дня назад

    Ken makes some pretty spot on points about society and government here, but sure; let's all talk about superhero stuff.