but Hudair didn't win the roll... there was so much spam that it was hard to tell but if you look back in the video Tweekes got 97 first. But thats such a *RARE* mount that, being the group leader, he wanted it no matter what and was going to get it and use any means necessary to get what he wants... I've gotten the mount drop on multiple occasions and I was the group leader. I didn't even roll because I wanted people to think it was completely fair. But Hudair or whatever his name was didn't roll the first 97 even if he was telling the truth about that. Tweekes won and Hudair saw everyone saying reroll, so he kicked everyone.
***** thats true :D but i always thought the person to roll need first had better chances and some gear the bosses drop aren't available to some classes so they have to greed on it so sometimes ML isn't all bad just don't let a newbie in the guild run the show because you are most likely to be ninja'd
This is why you always make sure the raid leader specifically says the loot rules in chat, so you can screenshot it. The person that wins the roll may not get the mount back, but at least it will be deleted from the Ninjas account.
It doesn't work all the time even if the leader specifies in chat. In a situation regarding the heroic ragnaros pureblood firehawk mount, I had a GM say that the words "Free loot" is ambiguous and not enough information to convey the rules that were expected.
You do realize he will still own the mount right? Blizzard only deletes drops if loot rules were specifically agreed upon by all players, in this case had they agreed on loot rules then OP would have included it in the video. Seeing as it was not included in the video then all the players who joined the group should know it is MASTER LOOT and if the raid leader is an asshole, which turns out he is, then he can do exactly what he did.
Watching the rolls play out made my blood pressure rise. The guy who took the video was dumb for trying to police the roll and championing one of the cheaters as the winner, Tweekes was especially vile for having rolled a 3 after the mount roll was called, then rerolling, then accusing those who beat his/her 2nd roll of cheating! the rightful winner, Kealdor, was the only person wronged here, most the rest of the raid was nearly as scummy as the ninja looter himself!
what i dont understand is why there are so many level 90 for a 25man icc heroic run, to be honest, if invincibles dropped and i was the raid leader, i would do the same thing, theres no way youd ever see that mount drop again, why give it to someone you dont know and never will see again?
Warduck Dath'Remar Your post was bad waaaaay before I got here buddy, but you go right on ahead telling yourself that it's other people making you look bad.
To those that think ninja looting is a permanent ban, it is not. After having a lengthy conversation about this with a GM he concluded that it is the Raid Leaders fault if someone ninja loots the raid for having faulty settings to prevent the ninja. In the case of a loot master taking everything (even items fairly rolled on) it is considered the fault of the raiders for allowing such High Value items to be hashed out by a LM, when in turn no loot master will ever be fair.
Agree'd. Also if it was a pug like it seems I would not bother giving it to some random a-hole who would probably never use it and wouldn't even bother logging on ever as well.
For the people saying blizz can't do anything- you're wrong. If I ever do a mount run with a raid, I make sure the raid leader TYPES how the loot will be distributed. If blizzard sees that the RL did not follow what already said and ninjas the mount, the mount will be taken from him and he could face a penalty.
You can't get banned for it, it's simply a scummy piece of shit thing to do. I got a warglaive ninja'd twice in my guild and blizzard responded saying it's not cheating.
even if the entire group spammed chat with questions about the loot rules, and he never answered or gave a specific answer, if he ninja'd it, there is nothing blizz or anyone can do about it because the loot rules werent clearly defined, which doesnt violate any ToS. you just gotta be smart and sneaky if you want to be a successful ninja. lol
Sad thing about that is that because he was was raid leader he won't get any shit for it bliss would say something like, sorry we are unable to help because he was the raid leader and we can't stop him from doing that
If the raid leader states EXPLICITLY in chat what the loot rules are, like "Invincible's Reins will be open roll for everyone", then decides to ninja loot it, you can report them and the GMs will check the chat logs to confirm that the raid leader said it was open roll. They will take action if loot rules were stated and then broken by taking the item away from the ninja. Make sure to get the RL to state the rules explicitly in chat before joining rare item/mount runs (especially pugs). Keep hounding him until s/he does, and leave if they won't. Don't risk wasting your time.
Do you not see everyone rolling 10 times.... I would have done the same thing, I'm not about to take 10 min to sort that crap out. I would take and say, bye children.
Keep in mind who ever has Master Looter in any group you go into has the power to deal loot as THEY see fit, GM won't do anything about this kind of thing, roll group loot or trust the person Master Looting.
Thats what you get for having a bad music taste. He was like "ohh shit this one guy got incredible bad taste of music, now no one but me will have the mount, that will teach him!"
actually no, since the leader said roll, you can report him and gm will remove the mount, if he just took without saying anything it would be fine and gms would do nothing
framar601 yes yes, me too. fuck other humas, i hate all humans. give me all the loot, you get nothing. fuck your family im the best. thats my attitude :)
It makes a lot of sense. Never join a group that isn't need/greed and never greed on mounts. With a music choice like this, you deserved to get ninja'd. lol
so for any confusion guys if they say roll then that means that they CAN do some thing if they do not say roll and just take it on the spot then they cannot do anything thats the way it works i have talked to a gm personally about it but i am not sure what actions they would take if that did happen probably nothing but giving them a day or two ban... so its fucked up yeah but thats life
In case anyone is wondering Kealdor actually won, he rolled a legit 91 against Hadius's 90. Everyone else rolled more than once to get higher than Hadius. The only person I feel bad for is Kealdor, the rest were just a bunch of annoying children. That fucking raid leader put them in their place.
makes you long for vanilla wow. Back then there was no name changing, server jumping or anything. Just you and your char. IF you got infamous and unpopular, hated even...you had to deal with the entire server pop turning against you. Blacklisting you. But now that you can change so many things and blizz not caring, you can get away with the most asshole actions. Extremely sad. Hurts trust in the game.
Actually, they don't... if you don't set specific loot rules or put certain things on "reserve" before loot is handed out, you can definitely be reported for it, and they will take away the item you ninja'd. I've seen it happen to someone who ninja'd Al'ar.
***** Yea,i lead a sad life cause in a roleplaying game i see fit to grab the only thing that i ever wanted for the last 8 years in this game.You are right,i am so sad,i will go cry in my garrison now.
Actually it can. if there was a clear agreement on how the loot wil be distributed and that can be seen from looking on your chat, then yes he can.......
When you ninja something and people file a complaint against you you will eventually receive a nice little mail from blizzard saying that they took away the mount for x reason. So yeah basically people that ninja nowadays dont get anything out of it which imo is great
People are so dumb, this video was recorded back when you actually couldn't solo it or 2man it.. you needed like 7 people at least at the beggning of cata when people weren't even geared yet..
if the raid was not full of people spamming chat, rolling more than once, and rolling 1-1000 - the raid leader may have not ninja'd it. When everyone starts fucking off making it extra difficult to find who the correct winner then well the RL does as he wants.
Also funny thing is since mounts are account wide now he never has to log onto that Hadius toon and he can simply name change or use other characters and he will still have it. So anonymity has increase in WoW and the community is gone. Except for the forum whiner/posters who think they are a part of the community but bitch about everything and think everybody is beneath them.
+oAINGIRYo yeah you can even ninja loot a gm themselves, and they cant do anything. Ninja'ing itself isnt ban-able. Quickest way to get gear and mounts :^)
He told us all to roll on it and then he took it because we didn't win, usually someone who is on master looter should fairly hand out the loot that's been rolled on and if not is considered a douche
In high expansion many players can farm this mount alone or with other one, and I think two players is better than 25 and the time of killing the boss is more fast, it's sad rate of this mount is low, I still farm this mount and I cannot get him!
Not sure why you are complaining and reporting the guy. He was group leader, it was set as master loot. While his move was a scumbag move, he reserves the right to take the loot since you all agreed that he is master loot when you joined. it was YOUR mistake when you joined a group like this without discussing loot rules. Blizzard will only pursue people who ninja loot AFTER loot rules were agreed upon by the group. Next time, you make the group, or join a group that has agreed on loot rules.
To all the people saying it's their fault the leader had ML. He shouldn't have let people /roll on it in the first place. That's fucked up to give them the illusion of chance then kick.
I was laughing so hard when I saw this videos she was clicking the mount like crazy,the raid leader did the right thing thats a once in a lifetime drop
Kids are mad. Love dem kids. I'd ninja too if it was a pug and kids were inexperienced. Guy won Invincible's Reins in our group the one week I wasn't leading the raid and he used it for about a week then never logged on again, still hasn't. Usually this is the case with people who win super rare and prestigious mounts in pugs, they want it because everyone else does and then rarely use it or don't even log on after they've got it. So I rarely feel bad unless it's a group of close friends that I am running with that I know who appreciate and enjoy a mount such as that.
If this game has a Loot Master setting, where ONE person decides who gets what, there you go. Make sure it's someone from your guild in control of distribution and that they are responsible and fair. Make your rolls or check the DKP list and distribute accordingly. Any PUGs added to the guild ranks understand that either all is fair and you roll for it, or that they come AFTER the guild or they don't run. However you want to do it. If it turns out your Loot Master is a dick, they get /gkicked and blacklisted. Done.
Spot on. I hates doing ML as leader due to regular bitching and also having to make it fair somehow between the regulars and the blow ins. What is positively hated worst of all was having to let mounts etc that i had been working on for ages slip through to someone else especially a pug. We had guild over pugs on gear and bags, mounts etc were all even roll. I am not the sort of person who would live with ninjaing an item.
If I had won the roll and everyone else was saying reroll, I'd be pissed off too just saying.
but Hudair didn't win the roll... there was so much spam that it was hard to tell but if you look back in the video Tweekes got 97 first. But thats such a *RARE* mount that, being the group leader, he wanted it no matter what and was going to get it and use any means necessary to get what he wants... I've gotten the mount drop on multiple occasions and I was the group leader. I didn't even roll because I wanted people to think it was completely fair. But Hudair or whatever his name was didn't roll the first 97 even if he was telling the truth about that. Tweekes won and Hudair saw everyone saying reroll, so he kicked everyone.
***** thats true :D but i always thought the person to roll need first had better chances and some gear the bosses drop aren't available to some classes so they have to greed on it so sometimes ML isn't all bad just don't let a newbie in the guild run the show because you are most likely to be ninja'd
This is why you always make sure the raid leader specifically says the loot rules in chat, so you can screenshot it. The person that wins the roll may not get the mount back, but at least it will be deleted from the Ninjas account.
***** Or you could solo the boss. Super fucking easy.
It wont be deleted at all. Blizz doesn't care if they ninja'd because of the specific loot rules used.
It doesn't work all the time even if the leader specifies in chat. In a situation regarding the heroic ragnaros pureblood firehawk mount, I had a GM say that the words "Free loot" is ambiguous and not enough information to convey the rules that were expected.
You do realize he will still own the mount right? Blizzard only deletes drops if loot rules were specifically agreed upon by all players, in this case had they agreed on loot rules then OP would have included it in the video. Seeing as it was not included in the video then all the players who joined the group should know it is MASTER LOOT and if the raid leader is an asshole, which turns out he is, then he can do exactly what he did.
I would have ninjaed it to :p
Get wrecked :D
GG Hadius! Well worth the name change and realm transfer!
Watching the rolls play out made my blood pressure rise. The guy who took the video was dumb for trying to police the roll and championing one of the cheaters as the winner, Tweekes was especially vile for having rolled a 3 after the mount roll was called, then rerolling, then accusing those who beat his/her 2nd roll of cheating! the rightful winner, Kealdor, was the only person wronged here, most the rest of the raid was nearly as scummy as the ninja looter himself!
lol maybe u should 2 man it instead of 25 man at lvl 90 and u wont have this problem
Love you're vids btw. :)
xD
Maybe you shouldn't play on Darkspear-US, filled with 12 year old fanboys :D
true that fucking noobs need 20 man eventho its solo possible haha
you guys know this video was posted when you weren't able to solo this.... right?
what i dont understand is why there are so many level 90 for a 25man icc heroic run, to be honest, if invincibles dropped and i was the raid leader, i would do the same thing, theres no way youd ever see that mount drop again, why give it to someone you dont know and never will see again?
nothing is balanced in this game, thus many things are unfair, take pvp for instance, so why make such a big deal over loot?
iv seen it drop 3 times, and none of the people ninja'd any of them.
People like you are the ones that ruin this game lol. I passed the mount to my friend because I honestly don't care about it.
Mtn Dew lol ruin the game, the games been ruine since cata bro, stop spreading your aids all over my post
Warduck Dath'Remar Your post was bad waaaaay before I got here buddy, but you go right on ahead telling yourself that it's other people making you look bad.
To those that think ninja looting is a permanent ban, it is not. After having a lengthy conversation about this with a GM he concluded that it is the Raid Leaders fault if someone ninja loots the raid for having faulty settings to prevent the ninja. In the case of a loot master taking everything (even items fairly rolled on) it is considered the fault of the raiders for allowing such High Value items to be hashed out by a LM, when in turn no loot master will ever be fair.
when the raid leader changes to master loot right before a mount boss you know something good is gonna happen.
You click half your spells, this mount is not for you.
Agree'd. Also if it was a pug like it seems I would not bother giving it to some random a-hole who would probably never use it and wouldn't even bother logging on ever as well.
Gratz on Invincible mate. :P
For the people saying blizz can't do anything- you're wrong. If I ever do a mount run with a raid, I make sure the raid leader TYPES how the loot will be distributed. If blizzard sees that the RL did not follow what already said and ninjas the mount, the mount will be taken from him and he could face a penalty.
You can't get banned for it, it's simply a scummy piece of shit thing to do. I got a warglaive ninja'd twice in my guild and blizzard responded saying it's not cheating.
David Williams One, I never said you can be banned for it. Blizzard can do something about it however.
David Williams 1. No you didn't. 2. No blizzard did not say that.
MrBarlion They did and I did. I simply didn't put it in the same words they used.
begley09 Like what? Give them their glaive back?
Your little raid was weighed, measured and totally pooped
the NPC paladin be like "FACEPALM"
even if the entire group spammed chat with questions about the loot rules, and he never answered or gave a specific answer, if he ninja'd it, there is nothing blizz or anyone can do about it because the loot rules werent clearly defined, which doesnt violate any ToS. you just gotta be smart and sneaky if you want to be a successful ninja. lol
the amount of literal kids who rolled more than once in insane
"Ninja'ed" LMFAO
You know, you're actually more likely to get in trouble for sharing this guys information than he is for ninjaing the item.
Sad thing about that is that because he was was raid leader he won't get any shit for it bliss would say something like, sorry we are unable to help because he was the raid leader and we can't stop him from doing that
There's a reason I decided to solo this weekly, and after 72 account kills (and 45-50 solo's,) I come out with Invincible and no drama.
It appears that the Lich King won after all. Look, he's lying there with a trollface!
For those saying that you can't report ninja looting, go read yourself from battle net. You may even get banned from ninja looting.
ask blizzard for one more carrot for all of you to run after. have fun!
2 tanks 3 healers shit load of dps in a lvl 80 heroic raid LOL this shit made me laugh I soloed it at 90 on my lock 25h
+Tri Fade shutup
+Ryo Hazuki Found the shitter that can't solo it.
If the raid leader states EXPLICITLY in chat what the loot rules are, like "Invincible's Reins will be open roll for everyone", then decides to ninja loot it, you can report them and the GMs will check the chat logs to confirm that the raid leader said it was open roll. They will take action if loot rules were stated and then broken by taking the item away from the ninja. Make sure to get the RL to state the rules explicitly in chat before joining rare item/mount runs (especially pugs). Keep hounding him until s/he does, and leave if they won't. Don't risk wasting your time.
wait so they will take it away from the ninja and they will look in chat whoever got the biggest roll?
Do you not see everyone rolling 10 times.... I would have done the same thing, I'm not about to take 10 min to sort that crap out. I would take and say, bye children.
Keep in mind who ever has Master Looter in any group you go into has the power to deal loot as THEY see fit, GM won't do anything about this kind of thing, roll group loot or trust the person Master Looting.
It's just a prank bro
+LeEtGaMeR FlUfFy filthy prank
Thats what you get for having a bad music taste. He was like "ohh shit this one guy got incredible bad taste of music, now no one but me will have the mount, that will teach him!"
if he was dancing, he's earned my respect
When we pug groups, we explicitly blacklist darkspear lol
actually no, since the leader said roll, you can report him and gm will remove the mount, if he just took without saying anything it would be fine and gms would do nothing
Straight up if I had the opportunity, I would ninja this.
What goes around comes around.
I wouldve done the same thing.
Same lol
framar601 yup
framar601 yes yes, me too. fuck other humas, i hate all humans. give me all the loot, you get nothing. fuck your family im the best. thats my attitude :)
Ha same here lmao
Joe Callahan take my comment next time more serious brate
You could have put in a ticket and they can go back and check who won the roll and send you the mount in the mail. Same thing happened with me.
Your bags were full...
It makes a lot of sense. Never join a group that isn't need/greed and never greed on mounts. With a music choice like this, you deserved to get ninja'd. lol
"he ninjaed" lmao
because he changed realm ofc.. ofc he changes realm after ninjaing a 200k mount..
so for any confusion guys if they say roll then that means that they CAN do some thing if they do not say roll and just take it on the spot then they cannot do anything thats the way it works i have talked to a gm personally about it but i am not sure what actions they would take if that did happen probably nothing but giving them a day or two ban... so its fucked up yeah but thats life
HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAH LEGENDARY MOMENT 3:12
In case anyone is wondering Kealdor actually won, he rolled a legit 91 against Hadius's 90. Everyone else rolled more than once to get higher than Hadius. The only person I feel bad for is Kealdor, the rest were just a bunch of annoying children.
That fucking raid leader put them in their place.
you son of a bitch i just got this song out of my head from a video i watched a few weeks ago and now it's stuck again
That's what you get for keyboard turning, Kappa.
Not to mention you can't report/ban anyone for using ML to pass themselves loot. Any GM will tell you that.
makes you long for vanilla wow. Back then there was no name changing, server jumping or anything. Just you and your char. IF you got infamous and unpopular, hated even...you had to deal with the entire server pop turning against you. Blacklisting you.
But now that you can change so many things and blizz not caring, you can get away with the most asshole actions. Extremely sad. Hurts trust in the game.
he ninja'ed invincible 25man heroic lich king mount!
reported only one. ever.
Hadius changed server, now its here us.battle.net/wow/en/character/tichondrius/Hadius/simple
(archievement was on 2012-12-21)
Actually, they don't... if you don't set specific loot rules or put certain things on "reserve" before loot is handed out, you can definitely be reported for it, and they will take away the item you ninja'd. I've seen it happen to someone who ninja'd Al'ar.
You tried hard portraying this Hadius kid. Best way to troll is by doing it in the most subtle way possible.
actually i think it would go for more than that but yea he changed servers enjoying his new sweet mount on all his toons lol
This is why loot always should be roll
Not surprising. You basically have a free pass to be a ninja in this game. Blizzard just don't care.
yup, and there are ways to prevent, stop bitching
I would of done the same thing,this mount is all i ever wanted in this game,more than gear,more than mounts,more than heroic progress.This mount only.
+Wolfrik Hordenailer What server do you play on?
Some people have that voice in the back of their head, telling you to just take it... But you're not ACTUALLY suppose to listen to it... LOL
TonyGAMING I am on Sylvanas,soz for the late reply i saw them notifications now.
***** Yea,i lead a sad life cause in a roleplaying game i see fit to grab the only thing that i ever wanted for the last 8 years in this game.You are right,i am so sad,i will go cry in my garrison now.
Or else what?You would 1v1 me in a fierce weaboo fight?
His name is Sondrael, He plays on US Tichondrius. Blood Elf Paladin.
Wowprogress ftw ^_^
Actually it can. if there was a clear agreement on how the loot wil be distributed and that can be seen from looking on your chat, then yes he can.......
that was me lmao
@@diplow1 boohooo go cry lmfao
@@diplow1 yeah stfu console gamer go back to sega
@@diplow1 no.
When you ninja something and people file a complaint against you you will eventually receive a nice little mail from blizzard saying that they took away the mount for x reason. So yeah basically people that ninja nowadays dont get anything out of it which imo is great
People are so dumb, this video was recorded back when you actually couldn't solo it or 2man it.. you needed like 7 people at least at the beggning of cata when people weren't even geared yet..
And thats why Im soloing this shit, same for Yogg. You cant trust anybody.
That still proves my point. If he changed all that, how'd he find out what it all was? Is he psychic? Still need answers, there :P
if the raid was not full of people spamming chat, rolling more than once, and rolling 1-1000 - the raid leader may have not ninja'd it. When everyone starts fucking off making it extra difficult to find who the correct winner then well the RL does as he wants.
coming back to this now, don't know why I cared so much. Who cares, views.
bro its one of the rarest mounts in the game, that millions of people play. Thats why you cared
He might have paid for a name change after this lol.
You got it wrong dude.
Also funny thing is since mounts are account wide now he never has to log onto that Hadius toon and he can simply name change or use other characters and he will still have it. So anonymity has increase in WoW and the community is gone. Except for the forum whiner/posters who think they are a part of the community but bitch about everything and think everybody is beneath them.
if his Invincible why can i see him
Not when you use bartender with all the bars on a main machine.
hahaha looked at her wow armory she still has it.... Troll wins!!
+oAINGIRYo yeah you can even ninja loot a gm themselves, and they cant do anything. Ninja'ing itself isnt ban-able. Quickest way to get gear and mounts :^)
skulll800 oooooooo scary.
His name is Sondrael, He plays on US Tichondrius. Blood Elf Paladin.
Wow progress ftw ^_^
He told us all to roll on it and then he took it because we didn't win, usually someone who is on master looter should fairly hand out the loot that's been rolled on and if not is considered a douche
Fuckin panzy's caring so much about what they're riding in game.
+JaedenFromTheJTJ dream on.
omg he looted our pixels /cry
pixels > RL
Don't mess with WoW players they will fuck you up, in-game of course. IRL they can't do shit
you can't report a master looter for ninja'ing.
He is master looter
you can if loot rules were given
they have to written clearly. for example MS/OS isn't clear. Main spec - Off-spec is
ulas1986 yeah i know
In high expansion many players can farm this mount alone or with other one, and I think two players is better than 25 and the time of killing the boss is more fast, it's sad rate of this mount is low, I still farm this mount and I cannot get him!
its funny when they dont say its free roll and they ninja and all the lil kidies squeel and report them and blizz just says not our problem :D
I WOULD OF DONE THE SAME. BEEN AFTER MOUNT FOR 4 YEARS AND STILL GOING.... ON ALL 3 TOONS...
Do you wanna run it together?
Not sure why you are complaining and reporting the guy. He was group leader, it was set as master loot. While his move was a scumbag move, he reserves the right to take the loot since you all agreed that he is master loot when you joined. it was YOUR mistake when you joined a group like this without discussing loot rules. Blizzard will only pursue people who ninja loot AFTER loot rules were agreed upon by the group. Next time, you make the group, or join a group that has agreed on loot rules.
this is why I go solo in old raids
I'll never see this drop.
How was it a ninja need. Don't we all want invincible?
a ninja can only ninja if the RL allows him to.
I can't wait for you guys in the comment section to be ninja'd out of your dreams.
you need new dreams
plus he may just have changed his name.
You know, Blizz laugh at "Ninja"
Guess what guys, he still has the mount so not a single fuck was given. You mad?
take the mount and gtfo, thats my boy
To all the people saying it's their fault the leader had ML. He shouldn't have let people /roll on it in the first place. That's fucked up to give them the illusion of chance then kick.
You wouldn't have done this if you were the lead amirite? no
Are you from Darkspear, too? Would explain your immaturity.
I was laughing so hard when I saw this videos she was clicking the mount like crazy,the raid leader did the right thing thats a once in a lifetime drop
he was a paladin ? cause i see a hunter Hadius not very well geared on the same server. Maybe he changed his class. But he has no invincible mount.
If the horse is named Invincible how come I can see it?
because invincible isnt same as invisible
+HoppinG^ did he seriusly said that?
xD
+Giuseppe Di Meo its a fucking meme idiot he wasnt serious
Paladar Gaming who cares if its a meme or not when it doesnt make sense, Invincible is not same as invisible
Kids are mad. Love dem kids. I'd ninja too if it was a pug and kids were inexperienced. Guy won Invincible's Reins in our group the one week I wasn't leading the raid and he used it for about a week then never logged on again, still hasn't. Usually this is the case with people who win super rare and prestigious mounts in pugs, they want it because everyone else does and then rarely use it or don't even log on after they've got it. So I rarely feel bad unless it's a group of close friends that I am running with that I know who appreciate and enjoy a mount such as that.
Gotta give him credit, he learned it in front of all of you. Hahaha
omg i have this song saved to my comp
22 lvl 90s to kill LK25hc? Just how bad are people? Ik this was uploaded in 2012 but you could easily 3-5man this back then.
Why didnt the leader just /roll 16 ? 16 players in grp :P
This song gave me cancer... 12 times.
its just a mount lawl
If this game has a Loot Master setting, where ONE person decides who gets what, there you go. Make sure it's someone from your guild in control of distribution and that they are responsible and fair. Make your rolls or check the DKP list and distribute accordingly. Any PUGs added to the guild ranks understand that either all is fair and you roll for it, or that they come AFTER the guild or they don't run. However you want to do it. If it turns out your Loot Master is a dick, they get /gkicked and blacklisted. Done.
Spot on. I hates doing ML as leader due to regular bitching and also having to make it fair somehow between the regulars and the blow ins. What is positively hated worst of all was having to let mounts etc that i had been working on for ages slip through to someone else especially a pug. We had guild over pugs on gear and bags, mounts etc were all even roll. I am not the sort of person who would live with ninjaing an item.