Hello Jay and Mel, I remember when I was young and I would go out to work with my father early in the morning and we would always go to a café for workers in Baghdad, and an old man would sit in front of the café and sell cigarettes, and this cigarette seller would say that Islam is a religion invented by the Jews, and this man was a Muslim. And an Arab, by the way, and I was surprised by his words, and I do not know who brought this information, but I never asked him first because I was not interested in these topics, but also because of the sensitivity of the topic, even though the Muslims of Iraq were open and did not feel any offense from asking questions that seemed critical.. I am talking here in the mid-eighties. From the last century..
No, I've heard the same. Muhammad's mother was Jewish, which makes Muhammad Jewish. The Muslim religion is basically a carbon copy of Judaism. They don't believe Jesus was the Messiah, they have kosher laws, animal sacrifice, and Jews can worship in mosques and eat Muslim food.
What a rabbit hole. There actually might be some rabbits in this one. I'm reminded here about Byzantine Emperor Leo III (an Arabic speaker) writing to Umar II regarding word about the Furqan (P'ourqan) (i.e.Qur'an) having been manufactured Umar I, Salman al-Farsi and Abu Turab (Father of Dust),. The latter was also known as Ali ibn Ali Talib, the fourth caliph the first imam of the Shi'a and, of course, the son-in-law and cousin of MHMD as well as son of Abu Talib. That chart by Ben Abrahamson and Joseph Katz is quite intriguing as it shows Asad bin Hashim's (brother of MHMD's father) daughter connected to the Exilarch Hushiel by tradition, I'm assuming. The Yakub of Syria ("proposed Ka'b al-Ahbar) is also intriguing as he is a Yemenite Jew with rank just below rabbi (hence Hebrew "haver" translated to Arabic Ahbar) who became a Muslim and Muslim scholar. He presumably supported Uthman and Mu'awiya in Damascus. His influence definitely deserves a deep dive and, I'm assuming, we'll get one because his name is highlighted in the chart. He presumably suggested the Temple Rock as a site for a mosque that was eventually built by Abd al-Malik. His influence seems to go much deeper according to their tradition.
Awesome stream brethren, Brother Mel always comes with interesting content.I always thought Islam could be a heretic Judaic community and Abu Baqr could have been a Sadducee.Till today some Arab moslems still believe the Hadiths are written by Jews and call them Hadith Israelyat..only time will tell.Keep up the good race...Ameen
Ibn Wadih al-Ya‘qubi writes that "Salman al-Fārisī was ‘Umar b. al-Khattab’s governor of al-Mada'in" (Madain/Mahoza). It was also Salman al-Farisi plan to dig a trench at The Battle of the Trench,so maybe that's where the battle took place. Also,if the Koresh(Cyrus) are Persians,"Muhammads" battles against the Quraysh/Koresh were small battles against the Sassanids. And in Iraq!.
I would point out too that it was not uncommon in antiquity for persons living in multicultural societies to have more than one name. For example Kephas was also known as Peter, Saul became Paul which sounds similar. Even in modern times, it was not uncommon for Jewish emigres to America to adopt English names which sounded similar to their original Yiddish names.
Just the kind of work that needs doing. Islam even to the non scholar shows obvious influence of regional cultures along with Christianity, Judaism, and Gnosticism. This kind of work really ties it down.
@@Stardust475nope I'm the opposite. I mean yeah you can do longer ones for people with no life who can afford it to sit there all day and listen but definitely also still do the short ones where you get to the point. I'm more of a tell us the info, get to the point. Thank you. I work and have ADHD meaning I can't focus for too long
@shadycnetwork sorry you're incapable of focusing for long or have a job that doesn't allow you time to listen to in depth discussion, but many of us do have jobs and mental abilities that are perfectly conducive to listening to longer videos. Do better, be less rude!
"Qais Abdul Raas" is mentioned as the 37th descendant of King Saul (Benjamite) in the 17th-century book "Tārīkh-e Khān Jahānī wa Makhzan-e Afghānī" by the Mughals. Legend has it that he came to the aid of Prophet Muhammad in his conquest. The legend further extends that "Imam Jafir Saqid" (7th in line of descendants of Prophet Muhammad) married into the "Qais Abdul Raas" family, which is now known as the "Karlani" Bangash tribe of Pakistan. The Karlani's are considered to be of Arabian/Jewish origin. Among the famous ones are the "Bangash" (Benjamin) and "Afridi" (Afriam) tribes of Pakistan. It is no wonder that Alexander the Great traveled from Susa with the Benjamite/Afriam tribes to the Afghan area where these tribes eventually settled. The DNA of some of these people found in Kohat has Greek/Iraqi/Persian Origins
Pharisee/Parisa (abjad) aren't Aramaic words at all, but a Proto-Indo-Iranian loanword Parasya (abugida), meaning the others/separated/splintered. Proto-Indo-Iranian admixture is well-attested in Ashkenazi genetics (Y-DNA R1a-Z93) and archaeologically and linguistically attested by the presence of the Mitanni Empire on the border of Bronze Age Canaan.
If AJ Deus and Mel are correct, then the New Testaments declarations against the Pharisees and Sadducees will take on a whole new and far greater significance!
Hello Mel and Jay, love all the work you guys do. Just to pint out a small matter at about minute 10, the notes make it appear that the Babylonian captivity lasted only 70 years. As far as Gifs curse it’s true it ended after 79 years. However, upon closer reading, the vast majority of Jews stayed in Babylon and never returned to Jerusalem. This ongoing self-exile explains why the most “authoritative” Talmud is the Babylonian Talmud and not the Jerusalem Talmud. Indeed the Pharisees originated in Babylon (and later Baghdad) long before the given date of 167 BCE. Just thought you might like to know this. God bless you both and keep up the great work!
If Salman is another name for Shallum (which has been claimed by other scholars before Mel and which I believe to be correct), and Shallum/Salman was the *brother* of Nehemiah bin Hushiel, then obviously Shallum/Salman had to be Jewish. Also, numerous key dates in the lives of Muhammad and Nehemiah are identical. I don't think that is a coincidence.
"in the mountain ju fen mo di na" - mo di na sounds a lot like Medina or al Madinah, but I have no clue what the significance of ju fen is. Maybe we need someone who knows early Medieval Chinese. OK, I googled ju fen and still don't know what it means, but there appear to be a number of Chinese even today with this name. Also, a town in Taiwan has a similar name: "Jiufen, also spelled Jioufen or Chiufen is a seaside *mountain* area in Ruifang District, New Taipei City, Taiwan." So maybe something to do with mountains??? Ju fen mo di na=Mountains of Madina? Okay, I googled again and found this: "There are 737 named mountains in Al Madinah Region." So maybe.
Speaking of codes and mentions of Salman al-Farsi, in the secretive Alawite belief system, Ali (Abu Turab) is the "Ma'na" (the manifestation or meaning of Allah). MHMD is the "Hijab" or curain/veil concealing Ali's identity as Allah. Salman al-Farsi is "Al-Bab" or "The Gate/Door." With the Sunnis, we have a similar structure with Umar replacing Ali as Allah. The Sunni Constitution of Faith (available in Arabic pdf) declares outright that Umar is Allah while Uthman and Aiysha are part of their confessional triad. As for Emperor Leo III's letter, we again have that triad of Umar I, Abu Turab and Salman al-Farsi. Interestingly, Umar's epithet is "Al-Farooq" or "The Savior" while "Al-Furqan" presumably means "The Salvation" instead of "The Criterion" or even "The Divider" between right and wrong, as Muslims have interpreted it's meaning.
Thank you for this. If the etymological argument is useful, please make it on etymological terms - an etymological relationship is not established merely by saying that two words have similar sounds. Maybe this is unimportant to the bigger argument being made, in which case it is a distraction and could be dropped.
A word play is what is being discussed. A common device used. Strict etymological rules hide these word plays. This is not an isolated occurence. Because most can only see the strict etymological rules, they miss these word plays.
While listening to you, Mel, and having read quite some papers and a book of AJDeus, a thought came up I want to share with the two of you : We know of the claims the Qur'an came from heaven via Gibril and nothing was and can be changed etc. and it was MEMORIZED! We hear the similar argument in regard to the "Oral Torah", today called the Talmud, which was 'given to Mose' after having received the "Written Torah".... Oral Torah was MEMORIZED from Mose til around 200 BC - about 400 AD, they claim as representing the Synagoge of Satan. Pharisees of old followed by Exilarchs as well as Gaons and todays Rabbis were and still are not only deep into Talmud disregarding the Torah but moreso into Kabbala, which gives anyone direct access to the spiritual world with their ruler Lucifer, the Satan and his Nasi!... which today's Rabbis openly declare on RUclips! Lucifer is their "mhdh", the praised one, their shechina with his representatives and as mentioned in the fifth lecture of Achad Haam, alias Asher Ginzberg in 1897 in Basel: "Over the course of 20 centuries, we have stirred up personal and ethnic prejudices, racial and religious hatred among all non-Jews. Thanks to this, no Christian state will find support, because every other state must believe that an alliance against us is not advantageous for them. We are just too strong, we have to be reckoned with. Today the powers cannot conclude even the smallest agreement between themselves without us having a secret hand in it...." The Qur'an is just another Talmud! and the giver is Lucifer again for setting up his kingdom in the end of this world, our present days. Turn away from the world and make sure to have a personal close relationship with Jesus Christ, Who is our Creator, Father and God.
@@AlonzoHarris235 Jay Smith lives rent free in your head... echoing echoing.. All Day All Night.. "The Book ..The Man ...The Place" You cannot refute the topic so you deflect Islam is built on lies and you know it . What the trinity is is irrelevant
GOD IS SPIRIT (mind you: not One Spirit but Spirit) and this God is ETERNAL LOVE, called the Father The ETERNAL WISDOM of God, which emanates eternally out of God is called the Son The ETERNAL LOVE-FORCE emanating from God is called The HOLY SPIRIT and all of this is ONE GOD, Who incarnated in the human being Jesus Christ, in order to teach us the way back into our spiritual home, from which we deserted by following Lucifer, His first created image of Himself, who turned because of misuse of his free will against the Creator😊
Hi.The oral Talmud,is the complete Talmud memorised knowadays? What about the Holy Torah,is the complete Holy Torah, memorised today? Ps.Joe from old site of red eyed Judasium,I think said that the Mishna or Holy Torah is more insync with quran. I think Lloyd De Jongh and Sam Gerrans , suggested the non-quran hadith's are similar to Talmud. I ain't sure,yet i think the Talmud language is maybe kind of different to the Holy Torah language. Ps.Lucifer/Iblees may not be The Devil.The Devil may be off-spring of Lucifer.(What i say,is a like white paper quoting).
@@irishheritage893 I live here since 90. And people don't even know the name of their own ciry. There is a "CIty of David" but no "City of Solomon" , illitertate _ucks....
Once again, fascinating stuff. What I love is the Persian = Pharisee argument. Jews go into captivity in Babylon and come out infected with Babylonian/Persian theology which Christ has to deal with in the thinking of the people of the time. As usual there is a bit to unpack and, once again, tends towards placing the origins of Islam away from the Saudi area and up into Iraq. Does this also mean that the Petra/Nabatean theories regarding the location of an actual Kabaa prior to the modern one would also relate to this Baghdad origin? Just trying to piece together a coherent flow/argument.
It's true that the core sharia is pure Talmudic and theology is a bit of Judaism and arianism but Don't forget the gnosticism, sabian Mandaean, and a bit of paganism and zoarastian influence.
Hello Jay.. I was curious about Hadith writers like Sahi muslim, bukhari, abu dawud, tirmidhi.. How can they write a bunch of Hadith which proves Quranic text contemporary to the Prophet Mohammad? As per your claim there are many Quranic types then how come bukhari, muslim has same context as of today's Quran? Could you please help us in this issue
When the Arabs took over Jerusalem in early 7th century, didn’t the Jewish diaspora from Baghdad (who accompanied the Arabs) build a temple on the mount which the Umayyads took over for their own use
It's either in 614 during the Sassanid conquest with Jewish mercenariea with leaders like Benjamin of Tiberiis fighting with the zoroastriana or the 636AD conqueat under Ambross (Umar) this happened.. I believe the two events are actually one event that occurred somewhere the dates given.
I can't understand how that would work. The main leader of the Jews world wide was in iraq under Parthian and Sasanian rule, while many if not most Jews were under Saleucid, Roman and briefly independent rule.
The Jews in the 2nd Temple Period were waiting for at least 3 Messiahs -- from the House of David through Solomon and from the House of Joseph and from the House of Levi. Our Lord encapsulated all of them in His lineage. Remember Elizabeth His kinswoman was a daughter of Aaron. And it is very likely that the genealogy in Matthew was Mary's not Joseph's. (remember Luke did not mention Mary in his genealogy).
I’ve been thinking this for years. The Pharisees (Parsees) brought Zoroastrian thought into Judaism. And the Quran was written by Persians. And don’t get me started on how Mithraism was brought into the Vatican. It’s all from Babylon. Btw, my husband is Iranian. 😆
There isn't any the answer we are trying to get to , to see if such book ever existed so far all the evidence pointed to the jews and no such thing as islam existed it's a hoax. The jews have invented MHMD a jew Challenging the Christians triune GOD'S, remember the temple Mount on the holy of holy there was a church called St syrus Church and was built by the besantian and that when this exilarch conquer Jerusalem he but the writing denying the Godship of jesus christ, and the barbarians Arabs who were fighting for the exilarch they stole the idear from him as there were no such thing called Mecca before 741AD MHMD died 632AD and was born in Mecca 570AD. Lies after lies, jesus christ is the only truth And don't waist your time on the Islamic garbage, for there's no muslim 🌙country is at peace, why is that ?🦧🙊🙉🙈👹🕋🔥🤮⚖️🇮🇱 because islam ☪️ contradict the bible and that alone comes from the devil father of the lie Lucifer working threw islam 😂👻🤮☠️💥🔥🕋👹💥
Mel. Got a question bro. You mentioned Farsi comes from Pharisee. But do you think it could be the other way around. You mentioned a connection to Zoroastrianism but likewise it could also be derivative from Persia. Sadducee had their centre in Moab didn’t they, and only use the Books of Moses like the Samaritans. Ie they remained fairly indigenous. Whereas the Pharisees us the whole OT including obviously exile focused books like Daniel. Ie Pharisees are returned Jews from Farsi. Sadducees are not. Not sure if I’m just making more holes. What I’m suggesting is that Farsi is Persian and Pharisees could be named such because they returned from Persia and kept their Persian Jewish history and heritage.
@@asifbrettishmaelmakki9 Hi Brett, I think the P is just a translation thing. ie "ph" in english is equivalent to "F". but yes its likely there is some reworking of pronouncement moving in and out of farsi arabic and hebrew aramaic etc. Hope you are well.
@@villainousssb533 . A point,yet i cannot provide reference hence class it as hearsay (not got ref,source was western tho). I readithed once,that ancient Pharsi was changed to a modern Pharsi.The difference was,the modern Farsi used letter symbols that are as similar to Arabic,when previously the letters where different in ancient Pharsi language.
The exilarch in Ctsphn was crucified on the bridge for supporting a proto marxist revolution which was defeated by Khosrow Anushirvan. The young son of the exilarch escaped to Jerusalem
Mins 19:49 minutes.Is Jay correct about the genealogies in NT. I thought both are to Joseph,the dad of Jesus ? Ps.In the NT is it 100% affirmed or confirmed that Jesus is not anything biological of Joseph?
Joseph is Jesus stepdad Brett . Coz of the virgin birth. He willingly decided to take on that role. There is no genetic connection as it is mechanically impossible. Peace ✝️
@@villainousssb533 . I understand Joseph as dad as in no, biological link to Joseph-dad. I know the teaching on Jesus on, no biological dad. Ps.Rabbi Tovia singer,has mentioned that Mary is not the only lady to be termed to have had a virgin birth.Hence I thought,"virgin birth could have another definition". Rabbi Tovia is of anti-Paul stance. It's no issue bro.We don't want to open a can of worms. I just take note that two places in Holy NT,link Jesus to King David as tho of flesh. Yet I still have loads of NT verses to read. Key facts is Jesus was crucified and roseup,and i ain't funny towards RC Church or anyone who is with Crucified Christ. 🏴☦️🇬🇧
@@villainousssb533 . We have to be peace towards the Rabbi Tovia.His teachers are ie Ezekial and the other OT Prophets. We Christians are also children of Abram/Abraham the Great 👌😁 Amen 💪 through Christ Jesus Our Lord and Saviour
Biblical words and names are Farsi/Persian, some are listed below: Jew "جا - jaa" = Room / Home / Shed Jesus "جا ساز - jaa-saaz" = Home builder Christ "کار است, کار دست - kaar-ast/kare-dast" = The work we do using our hands to build a home, determines the ownership of that house Genocide "جا نساز - jaa-na-saaz" = Do not build home Genesis "جا نسازید - jaa-na-saazeed" = Do not build house (purell for genocide) Gabrael "این جا بروید - jaa-beraveed" = Leave this home, executor of eviction Palestine "پا و دستان - paa-va-dastan" = Legs and hands, [construction] workers Disciple "دست پرکار or دست و پا دار - dast-o-paadar" = Having [skilled] hands for work Joseph "جا زاد - jaa-zaad" = The male who was born in that home Jouda "جا دار - jaa-daar" = One with home, not homeless John "جای من - jaa-ye-man" = My home [in the future] Judea "جادارها - jaa-daarha" = Those who have house (opposite of homeless) Moshe "مال من میشه - maale-man-mysheh" = It will be mine Judaism "جا دزدیست - jaa-dozdist" = Home/land thief Noah "رود ما - roode-ma" = Our river Magi "مانده جا - mandeh-jaa" = The man who knows the owner of the home and land Hashem "خاکشه - khakesh-eeh" = This soil belongs to him, the owner of the all the soils / dirt of the world Maryam "مادرم - maadaram" = My mother, being a mother Mary "مادری - maadary" = Motherhood, a girl who is expected to be a mother (roots for marriage, madam, Ms and Mrs) Jahad "جا بخواه - jaa-bekhah" = Demand for having a home (not an enslaved on someone else's land) Salvation "بساز و بشین - besaz-o-beneshin" = To live in your own built house and living in there Babylon "برابرن - bara-baran" = Equals, people who shared the land equally amongst themselves Malachi "مالکان - malekan" = Landlords, owners of the houses. Pagan " پاره گان - paregan" = Those girls who lost their virginity Sodom [and] Gomorrah " سردمه گرمم کن - sardameh-garmam-kon" = I am cold, warm me up, It was used by prostitutes At that time there were no postal addresses, people used to put their name or their statue to claim the occupation of the home, like "Hassan's Home" so every name was followed by the word " jaa", later the tribe of yahoodies claimed the word "jaa" as their names to claim all the properties. Noah also picked the name "river" so they can also claim ownership of all the water bodies on land. Hashem is the same, to claim the ownership of all the soils in the world because of a name. Juese also invented the Nail and Cross Joint to be used to build homes. The word "نبي" is "مقنی" which is Farsi for well digger, that is why Islam says there are 124000 Nabi or prophets. Nabis were establishing communities away from each other by finding new water sources and digging a well. Prophet Muhammad was their leader and teacher, he also designed the rules and regulations for ownership of the water well and the surrounding land "محل" by the workers who dug the well. The name "محمد" is a title "محل مرد" which means the male member of the 12 member compound/colony.
The figutr 4000 is repeated later as the Christians recaptured Jerusalem and executed the Sanhedrin along with other jews and had to be retaken by Shahrbaraz - who later became sympathetic to Christianity and was Persian emperor during an interegnum. Unusually, the wealthy jews banded together and bought the Christian pows - 4000 and had them executed! So with feelings runninng this high and the systemic collapse of the Sassanid empire circa 628 makes sense for a jewish leader to be a forerunner ofLawrence of Arabia. Isnt it accepted that Arab marauders reliied on meat on the hoof for food such as camels so Abr Bakr or father of the camel was actually a military role where he was master of camels in charge of supply so him being labelled as the generic successor to Big M makes cogent sense. In ancient Rome there was just such a role for a master pf horse. ""Magister equitum, 'master of the horse', an emergency magistrate nominated by the dictator (who was in early times called magister populi). Apart from commanding the cavalry, he was the dictator's lieutenant and deputy, whether at Rome or on military service
Yea, his was Salman AL Farisi Which in arabic language means Salman the perisan or the one fir Persia. Mel theory is far fetch theory I doubt that it has any truth. Salman was never a Jewish scholar, he was zorostrian and chrstian scholar. Further more this theory of Salman wrote the Quran was not Mell theory it was an old fable. And the Quran itself refuted it. The Quran said ,the Quran was revealed in clear arabic language while people like Salman were not Arabs. And if you ever tried to learn the arabic language, you will know that us the most difficult language to learn. And tou will never speak it like a native no matter how long you stayed in arab country. If you looked at Dan Gibson the author of the sacred city, he spent 25 years in Arab countries and till now he even could not pronounce the name mecca correctly after 25 years. So, it is impossible for one that is not an Arab to write something like the,Quran, and the Quran language itself, point to non human origin.
Farsi is the Arabic of Persi, the language and people of Iran. In Arabic, there is no p-sound alphabet. Therefore, use ف F-sound Arabic alphabet to write Persi. In the Indian subcontinent, in many languages, Farsi and Persi are used as interchangeable words.
Looking up the term "Exilarch" give plenty of references that don't seem to agree with Mel's claim that they were global rulers but a title given to the head of the Babylonian Jews.
Jesus is the Son of God, the Father/Son/Holy Spirit are ONE entity (Hypostatic Union), the Creator himself. Jesus does NOT have an "Earthly" genealogy or "lineage"! Both Luke and Matthew recorded Joseph's assumed lineage, NOT Mary's. At that time, only the fraternal line was accepted. Matthew 1:16 "and Jacob the father of Joseph, the husband of Mary, " Luke 3:23 "Now Jesus himself was about thirty years old when he began his ministry. He was the son, so it was thought, of Joseph, the son of Heli," Both references to JOSEPH, not Mary. Jesus is not the jwsh messiah either, as he did not match with the requirements to be so. Christians did not have a "messiah" as Christianity is based on the resurrection of Jesus Christ alone.
No he was a "jewish" leader of his known realm. Jewish as jewish trained. Primary for the region. It's there to find. Look for truths not "truths" to fit a theory. Cheers. A welcome blast from the past for me, cheers.
In this Holy Month of Ramadan, I pray for everyone who watch this channel and all similar channels and also the speakers to have mercy on all of you, and soften your hearts so that you become deserving to receive guidance from Allah Ta'ala. 🙏🏻 Aamiin Allaahumma Aamiin. ❤
Jay, don't waste your time, organize a conference with people who also have their own opinions on the issue of Islam, I suggest that you, Jay, gather all the experts and have a very long conversation, even if it takes many days - so that the end of your conversation is a written work.call the following people :Odon Lafontaine; Joe Red Judaism; M.A. amir moezzi;ben Abrahamson;Mikhail Finkel; and Robert Hoyland, and Den Gibson, also let Al Fadi be your defender with knowledge of Arabic; also call Yasser Qadi or any educated, dialogue-ready Muslim; Jay -reconcile Odon Lafontaine and Joe red Judaism - I saw Odon's willingness to negotiate, but Joe did not respond; you are big experts, take up this matter DISPASSIONATELY, do not try to lean towards Christianity.
A title for a Jewish Exilarch? Maybe. One thing for certain - "Muhammad" was NOT the personal name of an Arabian prophet peddling a religion called Islam. No evidence for ANY of that baloney in the 7th century AD. Another fine video.
Biblical words and names are Farsi/Persian, some are listed below: Jew "جا - jaa" = Room / Home / Shed Jesus "جا ساز - jaa-saaz" = Home builder Christ "کار است, کار دست - kaar-ast/kare-dast" = The work we do using our hands to build a home, determines the ownership of that house Genocide "جا نساز - jaa-na-saaz" = Do not build home Genesis "جا نسازید - jaa-na-saazeed" = Do not build house (purell for genocide) Gabrael "این جا بروید - jaa-beraveed" = Leave this home, executor of eviction Palestine "پا و دستان - paa-va-dastan" = Legs and hands, [construction] workers Disciple "دست پرکار or دست و پا دار - dast-o-paadar" = Having [skilled] hands for work Joseph "جا زاد - jaa-zaad" = The male who was born in that home Jouda "جا دار - jaa-daar" = One with home, not homeless John "جای من - jaa-ye-man" = My home [in the future] Judea "جادارها - jaa-daarha" = Those who have house (opposite of homeless) Moshe "مال من میشه - maale-man-mysheh" = It will be mine Judaism "جا دزدیست - jaa-dozdist" = Home/land thief Noah "رود ما - roode-ma" = Our river Magi "مانده جا - mandeh-jaa" = The man who knows the owner of the home and land Hashem "خاکشه - khakesh-eeh" = This soil belongs to him, the owner of the all the soils / dirt of the world Maryam "مادرم - maadaram" = My mother, being a mother Mary "مادری - maadary" = Motherhood, a girl who is expected to be a mother (roots for marriage, madam, Ms and Mrs) Jahad "جا بخواه - jaa-bekhah" = Demand for having a home (not an enslaved on someone else's land) Salvation "بساز و بشین - besaz-o-beneshin" = To live in your own built house and living in there Babylon "برابرن - bara-baran" = Equals, people who shared the land equally amongst themselves Malachi "مالکان - malekan" = Landlords, owners of the houses. Pagan " پاره گان - paregan" = Those girls who lost their virginity Sodom [and] Gomorrah " سردمه گرمم کن - sardameh-garmam-kon" = I am cold, warm me up, It was used by prostitutes At that time there were no postal addresses, people used to put their name or their statue to claim the occupation of the home, like "Hassan's Home" so every name was followed by the word " jaa", later the tribe of yahoodies claimed the word "jaa" as their names to claim all the properties. Noah also picked the name "river" so they can also claim ownership of all the water bodies on land. Hashem is the same, to claim the ownership of all the soils in the world because of a name. Juese also invented the Nail and Cross Joint to be used to build homes. The word "نبي" is "مقنی" which is Farsi for well digger, that is why Islam says there are 124000 Nabi or prophets. Nabis were establishing communities away from each other by finding new water sources and digging a well. Prophet Muhammad was their leader and teacher, he also designed the rules and regulations for ownership of the water well and the surrounding land "محل" by the workers who dug the well. The name "محمد" is a title "محل مرد" which means the male member of the 12 member compound/colony.
Mount--Maaad , Mount-Sinai , Mount- Murai , Mhun--Maaad"UUN " Mhun--Sinai"UUN " Mhun--Murai"UUN" Mh-maaad"UUN " Mh-Sinai"UUN " Mh-Murai"UUN " A Mhmaaad or Mhmaaad , A Mhsinai or Mhsinai , A Mhmurai or Mhmurai , Immam"UUM " --Maaad"UUN " = Immam-Maad"UUN" or Immam--Maaadi or A Immam--maaad , [ All are the Title ] ,
Biblical words and names are Farsi/Persian, some are listed below: Jew "جا - jaa" = Room / Home / Shed Jesus "جا ساز - jaa-saaz" = Home builder Christ "کار است, کار دست - kaar-ast/kare-dast" = The work we do using our hands to build a home, determines the ownership of that house Genocide "جا نساز - jaa-na-saaz" = Do not build home Genesis "جا نسازید - jaa-na-saazeed" = Do not build house (purell for genocide) Gabrael "این جا بروید - jaa-beraveed" = Leave this home, executor of eviction Palestine "پا و دستان - paa-va-dastan" = Legs and hands, [construction] workers Disciple "دست پرکار or دست و پا دار - dast-o-paadar" = Having [skilled] hands for work Joseph "جا زاد - jaa-zaad" = The male who was born in that home Jouda "جا دار - jaa-daar" = One with home, not homeless John "جای من - jaa-ye-man" = My home [in the future] Judea "جادارها - jaa-daarha" = Those who have house (opposite of homeless) Moshe "مال من میشه - maale-man-mysheh" = It will be mine Judaism "جا دزدیست - jaa-dozdist" = Home/land thief Noah "رود ما - roode-ma" = Our river Magi "مانده جا - mandeh-jaa" = The man who knows the owner of the home and land Hashem "خاکشه - khakesh-eeh" = This soil belongs to him, the owner of the all the soils / dirt of the world Maryam "مادرم - maadaram" = My mother, being a mother Mary "مادری - maadary" = Motherhood, a girl who is expected to be a mother (roots for marriage, madam, Ms and Mrs) Jahad "جا بخواه - jaa-bekhah" = Demand for having a home (not an enslaved on someone else's land) Salvation "بساز و بشین - besaz-o-beneshin" = To live in your own built house and living in there Babylon "برابرن - bara-baran" = Equals, people who shared the land equally amongst themselves Malachi "مالکان - malekan" = Landlords, owners of the houses. Pagan " پاره گان - paregan" = Those girls who lost their virginity Sodom [and] Gomorrah " سردمه گرمم کن - sardameh-garmam-kon" = I am cold, warm me up, It was used by prostitutes At that time there were no postal addresses, people used to put their name or their statue to claim the occupation of the home, like "Hassan's Home" so every name was followed by the word " jaa", later the tribe of yahoodies claimed the word "jaa" as their names to claim all the properties. Noah also picked the name "river" so they can also claim ownership of all the water bodies on land. Hashem is the same, to claim the ownership of all the soils in the world because of a name. Juese also invented the Nail and Cross Joint to be used to build homes. The word "نبي" is "مقنی" which is Farsi for well digger, that is why Islam says there are 124000 Nabi or prophets. Nabis were establishing communities away from each other by finding new water sources and digging a well. Prophet Muhammad was their leader and teacher, he also designed the rules and regulations for ownership of the water well and the surrounding land "محل" by the workers who dug the well. The name "محمد" is a title "محل مرد" which means the male member of the 12 member compound/colony.
Tha Arabic videos are way more interesting, ask your friend El Fahd, to translate these videos for you, they would be very informative for your research. Dr.Sami Dib., Dr. Luxenbourg ( pseudonym) Dr.Gilgamesh of the channel umat tanwir ( امة التنوير)with Sinharib. "Legend end" also in Arabic. Many other channels. Would make your research way easier. missing a lot of words here, the Nestorians, the Judeo-nazarenes, the Arius Christians, the Ebionites and ofcourse the most important person Waraqa bin Nouafal.
Farsi means Persian...it has nothing to do with the Hebrew name (Pharisees).. this Salman is totally unknown in Jewish.. tradition.. Your analysis is not connected to reality.. that word comes from the Hebrew word פרושים (Prushim). and they lived in Israel and not in Persia The term Prushim was relevant only at the time of the second temple.. since there were a few Jewish sects in Israel(Essies, notzrim, etc).. But after the destruction of the temple, all the remaining Jews were Prushim (ie Orthodox)... Since all other sects disappeared ftom Judaism...
Yes, Farsi means Parsi or Persian, you are correct, BUT Salman=Solomon, a name of Jewish origin, and before he was associated with "Mhmd," he was associated with the Jewish warlord-prophet Nehemiah bin Hushiel who was allied with the Persian state during the early 7th century war between the Sassanid Persians and the Romans.
About Jesus’s tribe affiliation: he has none. Jesus is a Jew after his mom, but Jesus does not have a (recognized) biological father after whom he can claim the tribe. So - this is a puzzle. Jesus is the Messiah but not as expected. His the messiah coming FROM the Jews - but he is not the “Jewish Messiah” as expected. Rather coming with sword, Jesus is coming with the teaching of humility and service.
The simple answer to this question is no. The leadership of the Jewish people in exile in the Sassanid Empire is well attested. I suggest that instead of indulging in speculation that you study Talmud, where this period is well documented. You may also then decide to leave idolatry and return to the G-d of Abraham, Issac and Jacob.
Hi.I do not intend to sound rude,yet idolatry does not exist with Jesus and God The Father are one. Genesis 17.1-7,15-16 17When Abram was ninety-nine years old, the Lord appeared to Abram,and said to him, 'I am God Almighty; walk before me, and be blameless.(from a Church of England 🏴 pamphlet)
@@asifbrettishmaelmakki9 they worship a man as G-d, that's the very definition of idolatry. I'm happy to discuss Torah, but can we please do so in the language that is given to us by HaShem. Translation is just interpretation.
@@stubronstein9932 . We understand that Jesus/Yeshua is very God of very God. My take on it is, their is soul and Jesus persay soul is what The life is and is uncreated.
do you know what we like about you its three things the first you debunk that idea about arab and muslim don't have a history you prove they do have one inscription manuscripts you named its more valid than anything christian and you will force a lot to ask questions that we already have inscription and manuscripts and genetics for it actually we have a new racial theory i'm not joking
Not Muslim or Islam because they did not exist at that time ! Arabs were Christians not Muslims !! It is about Muhammad a Jewish figure or many figures (exilarchs ) The origin of Islam later as a Jewish sect !!
You are shooting from I don't where again. Salman Al Farsi was Persian. He converted to Christianity so that he can travel to Roman territory. Persia and Romans were mortal enemies in those days. Romans were very strickt in enforcing Christian only. He seems to have spent some time with some Christian monks and priests during his travels to obtain some credentials. Eventually someone discovers that he is Persian and they sell him into slavery. I suppose they did not trust Persian slaves as well. His last master was a Jew in Madina. While he was a slave, he converts to Islam. The Prophet paid for his freedom. He was kind of adopted by the Prophet, as he was neither from Mecca, nor from Medinah. Keep in mind that Jews were expelled from Roman territories because of their rejection of Jesus. He would be killed most likely if he were a Jew. Jews in Medinah escaped the Romans as well. You are engaged in lies and misinformation. If you really believe in Jesus, you should not mix your personal ambitions with your service to him. If you lie in the process, everything you say about Jesus will be viewed as a lie as well. You are exposing the ugly face of Romans as you try to put down Islam. They were really brutal, ruthless even to each other. The love professed by Jesus is a newly discovered artifact. There was no such a thing. It was all blood all the time.
Roman soldiers, governors, and eventually the emperor Constantine, were converted by many things: the faith shown by the Christian martyrs they tortured to death, the wondrous miracles accompanying those martyrs, signs in heaven - lights shining on martyrs' tombs, etc. Keep denying the true God if you wish, foolish muslim, but try not to tempt other souls down to hell with you (bad for them, worse off for you!).
What is this? My reply in defense of Christianity got CENSORED?? The roman soldiers, governors, and eventually the emperor Constantine converted due to various reasons: the faith of the Christian martyrs they tortured to death, or the wondrous miracles accompanying the martyrs, or signs from heaven above - eg. lights shining on the martyrs' tombs, the famous chi-rho sign given to St. Constantine, etc. See you then, enemies of the Church who would rather believe the teachings of men than the witness of the incorruptible saints.
@@trinitymatrix9719You are not making an argument. Did Jesus say something about Salman Farsi? Did he pass the info this brain dead dude and to yuo. What I am saying is historical evidence. You are brainwashed.
They just looking for stories to continue leading their followers astray. Salman Alpharsi was a Persian not a Jew. But Jay has to bring up new false stories for his sponsors.
@@IslamicOrigins Is the trinity one self or three selves? Is the trinity one mind or three minds? Is the trinity one identity or three identities? Is one god one self or three selves? You won’t answer. That’s a confirmation of three gods.
GOD IS SPIRIT (mind you: not One Spirit but Spirit) and this God is ETERNAL LOVE, called the Father The ETERNAL WISDOM of God, which emanates eternally out of God is called the Son The ETERNAL LOVE-FORCE emanating from God is called The HOLY SPIRIT and all of this is ONE GOD, Who incarnated in the human being Jesus Christ, in order to teach us the way back into our spiritual home, from which we deserted by following Lucifer, His first created image of Himself, who turned because of misuse of his free will against the Creator 😊
Such a shame you have decided to become a polytheist and accepted a bible altered to suit the polytheistic presupposition. I pray you come to the truth.
read john about Jesus being the word and the word was God offcourse you will put in things not located in any manuscripts and say Jesus was a God not thee God ok fine now go to isaiah 44/24 and explain your lie buddy boy ,have never found a jw that can answer this and neither will you buddy boy, why does taze have a prymid as his tomb stone wasnt he perjure in court lying saying he knew hebrew when he did not its all a farse and you no it
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This channel deserves more attention!
Correct people should know the truth, especially if we.are living in end times
Can hardly wait for more on the Exilarch. Great stuff.
Great research. Thank you gentlemen 🙏🧡
This is very fascinating.
Really puts a different take on the formation of Islam.
We gotta have a full documentary with all this information together. That would be amazing.
Maybe compiled into a book?
@@StanGraham1 That would be awesome and I would but it too.
Hello Jay and Mel, I remember when I was young and I would go out to work with my father early in the morning and we would always go to a café for workers in Baghdad, and an old man would sit in front of the café and sell cigarettes, and this cigarette seller would say that Islam is a religion invented by the Jews, and this man was a Muslim. And an Arab, by the way, and I was surprised by his words, and I do not know who brought this information, but I never asked him first because I was not interested in these topics, but also because of the sensitivity of the topic, even though the Muslims of Iraq were open and did not feel any offense from asking questions that seemed critical.. I am talking here in the mid-eighties. From the last century..
Yes, he is spot on! The local knowledge is confirmed by evidence that I will be revealing later in this series.
@@IslamicOrigins please consider writing a book on the topic!
Yes, will do, once I've got it all together.@@dondarius7262
Maybe he was drunk.
No, I've heard the same. Muhammad's mother was Jewish, which makes Muhammad Jewish. The Muslim religion is basically a carbon copy of Judaism. They don't believe Jesus was the Messiah, they have kosher laws, animal sacrifice, and Jews can worship in mosques and eat Muslim food.
Thank you so much, Mel and Dr Jay Smith! 👍
What a rabbit hole. There actually might be some rabbits in this one. I'm reminded here about Byzantine Emperor Leo III (an Arabic speaker) writing to Umar II regarding word about the Furqan (P'ourqan) (i.e.Qur'an) having been manufactured Umar I, Salman al-Farsi and Abu Turab (Father of Dust),. The latter was also known as Ali ibn Ali Talib, the fourth caliph the first imam of the Shi'a and, of course, the son-in-law and cousin of MHMD as well as son of Abu Talib. That chart by Ben Abrahamson and Joseph Katz is quite intriguing as it shows Asad bin Hashim's (brother of MHMD's father) daughter connected to the Exilarch Hushiel by tradition, I'm assuming.
The Yakub of Syria ("proposed Ka'b al-Ahbar) is also intriguing as he is a Yemenite Jew with rank just below rabbi (hence Hebrew "haver" translated to Arabic Ahbar) who became a Muslim and Muslim scholar. He presumably supported Uthman and Mu'awiya in Damascus. His influence definitely deserves a deep dive and, I'm assuming, we'll get one because his name is highlighted in the chart. He presumably suggested the Temple Rock as a site for a mosque that was eventually built by Abd al-Malik. His influence seems to go much deeper according to their tradition.
Amazing in-depth research.
Awesome stream brethren, Brother Mel always comes with interesting content.I always thought Islam could be a heretic Judaic community and Abu Baqr could have been a Sadducee.Till today some Arab moslems still believe the Hadiths are written by Jews and call them Hadith Israelyat..only time will tell.Keep up the good race...Ameen
Ibn Wadih al-Ya‘qubi writes that "Salman al-Fārisī was ‘Umar b. al-Khattab’s governor of al-Mada'in" (Madain/Mahoza).
It was also Salman al-Farisi plan to dig a trench at The Battle of the Trench,so maybe that's where the battle took place.
Also,if the Koresh(Cyrus) are Persians,"Muhammads" battles against the Quraysh/Koresh were small battles against the Sassanids.
And in Iraq!.
I would point out too that it was not uncommon in antiquity for persons living in multicultural societies to have more than one name. For example Kephas was also known as Peter, Saul became Paul which sounds similar. Even in modern times, it was not uncommon for Jewish emigres to America to adopt English names which sounded similar to their original Yiddish names.
i always look forward to watch you guys, your discussion strenghten my faith.
Excellent work.
Nice beard Mel. Looks good on you👍
Hey thanks! I tried it out as an experiment and I decided to keep it as I like it.
Just the kind of work that needs doing. Islam even to the non scholar shows obvious influence of regional cultures along with Christianity, Judaism, and Gnosticism. This kind of work really ties it down.
I much prefer these longer episodes than the usual 10min ones! Plz do more longer discussions!
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@@Stardust475nope I'm the opposite. I mean yeah you can do longer ones for people with no life who can afford it to sit there all day and listen but definitely also still do the short ones where you get to the point. I'm more of a tell us the info, get to the point. Thank you. I work and have ADHD meaning I can't focus for too long
@shadycnetwork sorry you're incapable of focusing for long or have a job that doesn't allow you time to listen to in depth discussion, but many of us do have jobs and mental abilities that are perfectly conducive to listening to longer videos. Do better, be less rude!
You're both rude 🙄
@toocat2000000 one shouldn't be rude first and not expect to be returned, I wasn't rude first.
"Qais Abdul Raas" is mentioned as the 37th descendant of King Saul (Benjamite) in the 17th-century book "Tārīkh-e Khān Jahānī wa Makhzan-e Afghānī" by the Mughals.
Legend has it that he came to the aid of Prophet Muhammad in his conquest.
The legend further extends that "Imam Jafir Saqid" (7th in line of descendants of Prophet Muhammad) married into the "Qais Abdul Raas" family, which is now known as the "Karlani" Bangash tribe of Pakistan. The Karlani's are considered to be of Arabian/Jewish origin. Among the famous ones are the "Bangash" (Benjamin) and "Afridi" (Afriam) tribes of Pakistan.
It is no wonder that Alexander the Great traveled from Susa with the Benjamite/Afriam tribes to the Afghan area where these tribes eventually settled.
The DNA of some of these people found in Kohat has Greek/Iraqi/Persian Origins
Wonderfull historical treasure
Mel bringing the smoke!
Wonderful presentation, and research Mel and Jay ..
Lenten Blessings to you all.
Pharisee/Parisa (abjad) aren't Aramaic words at all, but a Proto-Indo-Iranian loanword Parasya (abugida), meaning the others/separated/splintered. Proto-Indo-Iranian admixture is well-attested in Ashkenazi genetics (Y-DNA R1a-Z93) and archaeologically and linguistically attested by the presence of the Mitanni Empire on the border of Bronze Age Canaan.
If AJ Deus and Mel are correct, then the New Testaments declarations against the Pharisees and Sadducees will take on a whole new and far greater significance!
Yes, it would mean that Jesus' condemnations of them was truly prophetic.
Mel is one of the most knowledgeable people regarding Real Islamic Origins
Joe from red Judaism might be the most knowledgeable.
Absolutely Jo is!
It means that there is no man named Mohammad what we know about Muslim prophet.Dr.Jay,one day you will be a great historian.
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He is an amateur LOL. He doesnt even have acces to the primary sources because he cant read Arabic.
He is the highest stripe of researcher & historian now. I agree he should receive far more traffic and recognition for his work.
Hello Mel and Jay, love all the work you guys do. Just to pint out a small matter at about minute 10, the notes make it appear that the Babylonian captivity lasted only 70 years. As far as Gifs curse it’s true it ended after 79 years. However, upon closer reading, the vast majority of Jews stayed in Babylon and never returned to Jerusalem. This ongoing self-exile explains why the most “authoritative” Talmud is the Babylonian Talmud and not the Jerusalem Talmud. Indeed the Pharisees originated in Babylon (and later Baghdad) long before the given date of 167 BCE. Just thought you might like to know this. God bless you both and keep up the great work!
This is incredibly fascinating.
If Salman is another name for Shallum (which has been claimed by other scholars before Mel and which I believe to be correct), and Shallum/Salman was the *brother* of Nehemiah bin Hushiel, then obviously Shallum/Salman had to be Jewish. Also, numerous key dates in the lives of Muhammad and Nehemiah are identical. I don't think that is a coincidence.
"in the mountain ju fen mo di na" - mo di na sounds a lot like Medina or al Madinah, but I have no clue what the significance of ju fen is. Maybe we need someone who knows early Medieval Chinese.
OK, I googled ju fen and still don't know what it means, but there appear to be a number of Chinese even today with this name. Also, a town in Taiwan has a similar name:
"Jiufen, also spelled Jioufen or Chiufen is a seaside *mountain* area in Ruifang District, New Taipei City, Taiwan."
So maybe something to do with mountains??? Ju fen mo di na=Mountains of Madina?
Okay, I googled again and found this:
"There are 737 named mountains in Al Madinah Region."
So maybe.
Speaking of codes and mentions of Salman al-Farsi, in the secretive Alawite belief system, Ali (Abu Turab) is the "Ma'na" (the manifestation or meaning of Allah). MHMD is the "Hijab" or curain/veil concealing Ali's identity as Allah. Salman al-Farsi is "Al-Bab" or "The Gate/Door." With the Sunnis, we have a similar structure with Umar replacing Ali as Allah. The Sunni Constitution of Faith (available in Arabic pdf) declares outright that Umar is Allah while Uthman and Aiysha are part of their confessional triad. As for Emperor Leo III's letter, we again have that triad of Umar I, Abu Turab and Salman al-Farsi. Interestingly, Umar's epithet is "Al-Farooq" or "The Savior" while "Al-Furqan" presumably means "The Salvation" instead of "The Criterion" or even "The Divider" between right and wrong, as Muslims have interpreted it's meaning.
Excellent thinking!
Thank you for this. If the etymological argument is useful, please make it on etymological terms - an etymological relationship is not established merely by saying that two words have similar sounds. Maybe this is unimportant to the bigger argument being made, in which case it is a distraction and could be dropped.
A word play is what is being discussed. A common device used. Strict etymological rules hide these word plays. This is not an isolated occurence. Because most can only see the strict etymological rules, they miss these word plays.
This his tory is so fascinating.
While listening to you, Mel, and having read quite some papers and a book of AJDeus, a thought came up I want to share with the two of you :
We know of the claims the Qur'an came from heaven via Gibril and nothing was and can be changed etc. and it was MEMORIZED!
We hear the similar argument in regard to the "Oral Torah", today called the Talmud, which was 'given to Mose' after having received the "Written Torah".... Oral Torah was MEMORIZED from Mose til around 200 BC - about 400 AD, they claim as representing the Synagoge of Satan.
Pharisees of old followed by Exilarchs as well as Gaons and todays Rabbis were and still are not only deep into Talmud disregarding the Torah but moreso into Kabbala, which gives anyone direct access to the spiritual world with their ruler Lucifer, the Satan and his Nasi!... which today's Rabbis openly declare on RUclips!
Lucifer is their "mhdh", the praised one, their shechina with his representatives and as mentioned in the fifth lecture of Achad Haam, alias Asher Ginzberg in 1897 in Basel:
"Over the course of 20 centuries, we have stirred up personal and ethnic prejudices, racial and religious hatred among all non-Jews. Thanks to this, no Christian state will find support, because every other state must believe that an alliance against us is not advantageous for them. We are just too strong, we have to be reckoned with. Today the powers cannot conclude even the smallest agreement between themselves without us having a secret hand in it...."
The Qur'an is just another Talmud! and the giver is Lucifer again for setting up his kingdom in the end of this world, our present days.
Turn away from the world and make sure to have a personal close relationship with Jesus Christ, Who is our Creator, Father and God.
The trinity is three gods.
@@AlonzoHarris235 Jay Smith lives rent free in your head... echoing echoing.. All Day All Night.. "The Book ..The Man ...The Place"
You cannot refute the topic so you deflect
Islam is built on lies and you know it
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What the trinity is is irrelevant
GOD IS SPIRIT (mind you: not One Spirit but Spirit) and this
God is ETERNAL LOVE, called the Father
The ETERNAL WISDOM of God, which emanates eternally out of God is called the Son
The ETERNAL LOVE-FORCE emanating from God is called The HOLY SPIRIT
and all of this is ONE GOD, Who incarnated in the human being Jesus Christ, in order to teach us the way back into our spiritual home, from which we deserted by following Lucifer, His first created image of Himself, who turned because of misuse of his free will against the Creator😊
Hi.The oral Talmud,is the complete Talmud memorised knowadays?
What about the Holy Torah,is the complete Holy Torah, memorised today?
Ps.Joe from old site of red eyed Judasium,I think said that the Mishna or Holy Torah is more insync with quran.
I think Lloyd De Jongh and Sam Gerrans , suggested the non-quran hadith's are similar to Talmud.
I ain't sure,yet i think the Talmud language is maybe kind of different to the Holy Torah language.
Ps.Lucifer/Iblees may not be The Devil.The Devil may be off-spring of Lucifer.(What i say,is a like white paper quoting).
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The problem is that Satan can’t understand the Trinity either!
Btw, the Trinity is in the Quran!
Just like the name God is also a title .Our Heavenly Father has a name .
Who was that Muhammad mentioned in sebeos Armenian bishop history book in chapter 30.??
Please explain??
A military commander
Jerusalem in Hebrew sound like, IRU SHLOMO , City of Solomon...
@@irishheritage893 I live here since 90. And people don't even know the name of their own ciry. There is a "CIty of David" but no "City of Solomon" , illitertate _ucks....
Once again, fascinating stuff. What I love is the Persian = Pharisee argument. Jews go into captivity in Babylon and come out infected with Babylonian/Persian theology which Christ has to deal with in the thinking of the people of the time.
As usual there is a bit to unpack and, once again, tends towards placing the origins of Islam away from the Saudi area and up into Iraq. Does this also mean that the Petra/Nabatean theories regarding the location of an actual Kabaa prior to the modern one would also relate to this Baghdad origin?
Just trying to piece together a coherent flow/argument.
Islam is Pharisee/Talmudic/Kabbala Judaism combined with Arianism!
It's true that the core sharia is pure Talmudic and theology is a bit of Judaism and arianism but
Don't forget the gnosticism, sabian Mandaean, and a bit of paganism and zoarastian influence.
Hello Jay.. I was curious about Hadith writers like Sahi muslim, bukhari, abu dawud, tirmidhi.. How can they write a bunch of Hadith which proves Quranic text contemporary to the Prophet Mohammad? As per your claim there are many Quranic types then how come bukhari, muslim has same context as of today's Quran?
Could you please help us in this issue
God bless you Dr Jay, so glad you are bringing your wisdom to the public about the Muslims and what they believe, come on home to Jesus Christ!
(Aramaic, rosh galuta, head of the exile). A term used in early rabbinic Judaism for the head of the Jewish community in exile in Babylonia
When the Arabs took over Jerusalem in early 7th century, didn’t the Jewish diaspora from Baghdad (who accompanied the Arabs) build a temple on the mount which the Umayyads took over for their own use
It's either in 614 during the Sassanid conquest with Jewish mercenariea with leaders like Benjamin of Tiberiis fighting with the zoroastriana or the 636AD conqueat under Ambross (Umar) this happened.. I believe the two events are actually one event that occurred somewhere the dates given.
Allah knows best, lol, keep stoking that fire guys the light is shining brighter every time you dig into the dark.
I can't understand how that would work. The main leader of the Jews world wide was in iraq under Parthian and Sasanian rule, while many if not most Jews were under Saleucid, Roman and briefly independent rule.
Sura 53 is moses from the bible info. The egyption book of the dead.
The Jews in the 2nd Temple Period were waiting for at least 3 Messiahs -- from the House of David through Solomon and from the House of Joseph and from the House of Levi. Our Lord encapsulated all of them in His lineage. Remember Elizabeth His kinswoman was a daughter of Aaron. And it is very likely that the genealogy in Matthew was Mary's not Joseph's. (remember Luke did not mention Mary in his genealogy).
@@irishheritage893 The phrase "daughter of Aaron" is the traditional way of saying that she was of direct lineage of Aaron.
I’ve been thinking this for years. The Pharisees (Parsees) brought Zoroastrian thought into Judaism. And the Quran was written by Persians. And don’t get me started on how Mithraism was brought into the Vatican. It’s all from Babylon. Btw, my husband is Iranian. 😆
Can someone tell me the most accurate english translation of the Qur’an. I want to study it. I would be very grateful. Thanks
There isn't any the answer we are trying to get to , to see if such book ever existed so far all the evidence pointed to the jews and no such thing as islam existed it's a hoax. The jews have invented MHMD a jew
Challenging the Christians triune GOD'S, remember the temple Mount on the holy of holy there was a church called St syrus Church and was built by the besantian and that when this exilarch conquer Jerusalem he but the writing denying the Godship of jesus christ, and the barbarians Arabs who were fighting for the exilarch they stole the idear from him as there were no such thing called Mecca before 741AD MHMD died 632AD and was born in Mecca 570AD.
Lies after lies, jesus christ is the only truth And don't waist your time on the Islamic garbage, for there's no muslim 🌙country is at peace, why is that ?🦧🙊🙉🙈👹🕋🔥🤮⚖️🇮🇱 because islam ☪️ contradict the bible and that alone comes from the devil father of the lie Lucifer working threw islam 😂👻🤮☠️💥🔥🕋👹💥
You might wait for the fruit of Saint Murad's work. Looks very interesting. See his videos and web pages.
Buy the Critical Quran! Robert Spencer! Great work!
Muhammed assad's ( leopold weiss) translation with commentary. Very interesting one for westerners.
Thank you very much.@@tc7500
Interesting stuff, as always gentlemen. Is there a contact address to reach out to Mel on? Thank you.
Mel. Got a question bro. You mentioned Farsi comes from Pharisee. But do you think it could be the other way around. You mentioned a connection to Zoroastrianism but likewise it could also be derivative from Persia.
Sadducee had their centre in Moab didn’t they, and only use the Books of Moses like the Samaritans. Ie they remained fairly indigenous. Whereas the Pharisees us the whole OT including obviously exile focused books like Daniel. Ie Pharisees are returned Jews from Farsi. Sadducees are not.
Not sure if I’m just making more holes. What I’m suggesting is that Farsi is Persian and Pharisees could be named such because they returned from Persia and kept their Persian Jewish history and heritage.
Mel mentioned both ... Farsi was a Pharisee in Persia ... and as he points out the word Pharisee may be a word play on Persian ....
Hi.Due to arabic language being involved,the P letter cannot be written in arabic because Arabic has no P.
@@asifbrettishmaelmakki9 Hi Brett, I think the P is just a translation thing. ie "ph" in english is equivalent to "F". but yes its likely there is some reworking of pronouncement moving in and out of farsi arabic and hebrew aramaic etc. Hope you are well.
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Yes brother,i am well.I hope you are also content and well 👌
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A point,yet i cannot provide reference hence class it as hearsay (not got ref,source was western tho).
I readithed once,that ancient Pharsi was changed to a modern Pharsi.The difference was,the modern Farsi used letter symbols that are as similar to Arabic,when previously the letters where different in ancient Pharsi language.
The exilarch in Ctsphn was crucified on the bridge for supporting a proto marxist revolution which was defeated by Khosrow Anushirvan. The young son of the exilarch escaped to Jerusalem
Yes it's a title, derived from Tamil language
Onward Christian Soldiers... 🙏 ✝️ 🕊
Mins 19:49 minutes.Is Jay correct about the genealogies in NT. I thought both are to Joseph,the dad of Jesus ?
Ps.In the NT is it 100% affirmed or confirmed that Jesus is not anything biological of Joseph?
Joseph is Jesus stepdad Brett . Coz of the virgin birth. He willingly decided to take on that role. There is no genetic connection as it is mechanically impossible. Peace ✝️
@@villainousssb533 .
I understand Joseph as dad as in no, biological link to Joseph-dad.
I know the teaching on Jesus on, no biological dad.
Ps.Rabbi Tovia singer,has mentioned that Mary is not the only lady to be termed to have had a virgin birth.Hence I thought,"virgin birth could have another definition".
Rabbi Tovia is of anti-Paul stance.
It's no issue bro.We don't want to open a can of worms. I just take note that two places in Holy NT,link Jesus to King David as tho of flesh.
Yet I still have loads of NT verses to read.
Key facts is Jesus was crucified and roseup,and i ain't funny towards RC Church or anyone who is with Crucified Christ.
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@@villainousssb533 .
We have to be peace towards the Rabbi Tovia.His teachers are ie Ezekial and the other OT Prophets.
We Christians are also children of Abram/Abraham the Great 👌😁 Amen 💪 through Christ Jesus Our Lord and Saviour
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Shabbat Shalom .Its that time period. Keepwell 🐩
Biblical words and names are Farsi/Persian, some are listed below:
Jew "جا - jaa" = Room / Home / Shed
Jesus "جا ساز - jaa-saaz" = Home builder
Christ "کار است, کار دست - kaar-ast/kare-dast" = The work we do using our hands to build a home, determines the ownership of that house
Genocide "جا نساز - jaa-na-saaz" = Do not build home
Genesis "جا نسازید - jaa-na-saazeed" = Do not build house (purell for genocide)
Gabrael "این جا بروید - jaa-beraveed" = Leave this home, executor of eviction
Palestine "پا و دستان - paa-va-dastan" = Legs and hands, [construction] workers
Disciple "دست پرکار or دست و پا دار - dast-o-paadar" = Having [skilled] hands for work
Joseph "جا زاد - jaa-zaad" = The male who was born in that home
Jouda "جا دار - jaa-daar" = One with home, not homeless
John "جای من - jaa-ye-man" = My home [in the future]
Judea "جادارها - jaa-daarha" = Those who have house (opposite of homeless)
Moshe "مال من میشه - maale-man-mysheh" = It will be mine
Judaism "جا دزدیست - jaa-dozdist" = Home/land thief
Noah "رود ما - roode-ma" = Our river
Magi "مانده جا - mandeh-jaa" = The man who knows the owner of the home and land
Hashem "خاکشه - khakesh-eeh" = This soil belongs to him, the owner of the all the soils / dirt of the world
Maryam "مادرم - maadaram" = My mother, being a mother
Mary "مادری - maadary" = Motherhood, a girl who is expected to be a mother (roots for marriage, madam, Ms and Mrs)
Jahad "جا بخواه - jaa-bekhah" = Demand for having a home (not an enslaved on someone else's land)
Salvation "بساز و بشین - besaz-o-beneshin" = To live in your own built house and living in there
Babylon "برابرن - bara-baran" = Equals, people who shared the land equally amongst themselves
Malachi "مالکان - malekan" = Landlords, owners of the houses.
Pagan " پاره گان - paregan" = Those girls who lost their virginity
Sodom [and] Gomorrah " سردمه گرمم کن - sardameh-garmam-kon" = I am cold, warm me up, It was used by prostitutes
At that time there were no postal addresses, people used to put their name or their statue to claim the occupation of the home, like "Hassan's Home" so every name was followed by the word " jaa", later the tribe of yahoodies claimed the word "jaa" as their names to claim all the properties. Noah also picked the name "river" so they can also claim ownership of all the water bodies on land. Hashem is the same, to claim the ownership of all the soils in the world because of a name.
Juese also invented the Nail and Cross Joint to be used to build homes.
The word "نبي" is "مقنی" which is Farsi for well digger, that is why Islam says there are 124000 Nabi or prophets. Nabis were establishing communities away from each other by finding new water sources and digging a well. Prophet Muhammad was their leader and teacher, he also designed the rules and regulations for ownership of the water well and the surrounding land "محل" by the workers who dug the well. The name "محمد" is a title "محل مرد" which means the male member of the 12 member compound/colony.
The figutr 4000 is repeated later as the Christians recaptured Jerusalem and executed the Sanhedrin along with other jews and had to be retaken by Shahrbaraz - who later became sympathetic to Christianity and was Persian emperor during an interegnum.
Unusually, the wealthy jews banded together and bought the Christian pows - 4000 and had them executed!
So with feelings runninng this high and the systemic collapse of the Sassanid empire circa 628 makes sense for a jewish leader to be a forerunner ofLawrence of Arabia.
Isnt it accepted that Arab marauders reliied on meat on the hoof for food such as camels so Abr Bakr or father of the camel was actually a military role where he was master of camels in charge of supply so him being labelled as the generic successor to Big M makes cogent sense.
In ancient Rome there was just such a role for a master pf horse.
""Magister equitum, 'master of the horse', an emergency magistrate nominated by the dictator (who was in early times called magister populi). Apart from commanding the cavalry, he was the dictator's lieutenant and deputy, whether at Rome or on military service
Holy Prohet Aliya salam was an Aryan -pale skin ,reddish hair from Petra,Jordan.
Doesn't 'Salman al Farsi' mean 'Salman the Persian'?
Looks like it coded as Salman the Pharisee. Attitle of a Jewish religious leader but in this case actually live in Persia.
Or (Salomon of God's word) al farsi...the language? Separated by words? Aramaic vs Arabic? How different is Hebrew?
It can imply it in a coded way the pharisee to those in the know. We find these word plays all over the tradition so this is no suprise.
Yea, his was Salman AL Farisi
Which in arabic language means Salman the perisan or the one fir Persia. Mel theory is far fetch theory I doubt that it has any truth. Salman was never a Jewish scholar, he was zorostrian and chrstian scholar. Further more this theory of Salman wrote the Quran was not Mell theory it was an old fable. And the Quran itself refuted it. The Quran said ,the Quran was revealed in clear arabic language while people like Salman were not Arabs. And if you ever tried to learn the arabic language, you will know that us the most difficult language to learn. And tou will never speak it like a native no matter how long you stayed in arab country. If you looked at Dan Gibson the author of the sacred city, he spent 25 years in Arab countries and till now he even could not pronounce the name mecca correctly after 25 years. So, it is impossible for one that is not an Arab to write something like the,Quran, and the Quran language itself, point to non human origin.
@@mahmoodali1533the syro-aramaic reading of the Koran by Christof Luxenberg
Farsi is the Arabic of Persi, the language and people of Iran. In Arabic, there is no p-sound alphabet. Therefore, use ف F-sound Arabic alphabet to write Persi. In the Indian subcontinent, in many languages, Farsi and Persi are used as interchangeable words.
Looking up the term "Exilarch" give plenty of references that don't seem to agree with Mel's claim that they were global rulers but a title given to the head of the Babylonian Jews.
The Bìble is Shrouded in Mystery no One here can Understand. Hebreo 4:12. Bituing walang ningning. Psalms 144:9.
John 8:44
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Jesus is the Son of God, the Father/Son/Holy Spirit are ONE entity (Hypostatic Union), the Creator himself.
Jesus does NOT have an "Earthly" genealogy or "lineage"! Both Luke and Matthew recorded Joseph's assumed lineage, NOT Mary's. At that time, only the fraternal line was accepted. Matthew 1:16 "and Jacob the father of Joseph, the husband of Mary, " Luke 3:23 "Now Jesus himself was about thirty years old when he began his ministry. He was the son, so it was thought, of Joseph, the son of Heli," Both references to JOSEPH, not Mary. Jesus is not the jwsh messiah either, as he did not match with the requirements to be so. Christians did not have a "messiah" as Christianity is based on the resurrection of Jesus Christ alone.
good joke lol
Every surah is just crap from a dream of muhammad during sleep paralysis.
Mel, the hebrew word gaon is pronounced gah-OWN. And gaonim would be gah-oh-NEEM.
" The Quran is grumblings from people "
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We;; s;a[ ,e silly, I am surpised!
No he was a "jewish" leader of his known realm. Jewish as jewish trained. Primary for the region. It's there to find. Look for truths not "truths" to fit a theory. Cheers. A welcome blast from the past for me, cheers.
In this Holy Month of Ramadan, I pray for everyone who watch this channel and all similar channels and also the speakers to have mercy on all of you, and soften your hearts so that you become deserving to receive guidance from Allah Ta'ala. 🙏🏻
Aamiin Allaahumma Aamiin.
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Jay, don't waste your time, organize a conference with people who also have their own opinions on the issue of Islam, I suggest that you, Jay, gather all the experts and have a very long conversation, even if it takes many days - so that the end of your conversation is a written work.call the following people :Odon Lafontaine; Joe Red Judaism; M.A. amir moezzi;ben Abrahamson;Mikhail Finkel; and Robert Hoyland, and Den Gibson, also let Al Fadi be your defender with knowledge of Arabic; also call Yasser Qadi or any educated, dialogue-ready Muslim; Jay -reconcile Odon Lafontaine and Joe red Judaism - I saw Odon's willingness to negotiate, but Joe did not respond; you are big experts, take up this matter DISPASSIONATELY, do not try to lean towards Christianity.
A title for a Jewish Exilarch? Maybe. One thing for certain - "Muhammad" was NOT the personal name of an Arabian prophet peddling a religion called Islam. No evidence for ANY of that baloney in the 7th century AD. Another fine video.
Farsi = Parsi = Parsian = Persian
Read tabqat ibn Saad.
Salmon= solomon=shalomon= shalmon
سلمان = سولومون= شالمون = شالومون
Biblical words and names are Farsi/Persian, some are listed below:
Jew "جا - jaa" = Room / Home / Shed
Jesus "جا ساز - jaa-saaz" = Home builder
Christ "کار است, کار دست - kaar-ast/kare-dast" = The work we do using our hands to build a home, determines the ownership of that house
Genocide "جا نساز - jaa-na-saaz" = Do not build home
Genesis "جا نسازید - jaa-na-saazeed" = Do not build house (purell for genocide)
Gabrael "این جا بروید - jaa-beraveed" = Leave this home, executor of eviction
Palestine "پا و دستان - paa-va-dastan" = Legs and hands, [construction] workers
Disciple "دست پرکار or دست و پا دار - dast-o-paadar" = Having [skilled] hands for work
Joseph "جا زاد - jaa-zaad" = The male who was born in that home
Jouda "جا دار - jaa-daar" = One with home, not homeless
John "جای من - jaa-ye-man" = My home [in the future]
Judea "جادارها - jaa-daarha" = Those who have house (opposite of homeless)
Moshe "مال من میشه - maale-man-mysheh" = It will be mine
Judaism "جا دزدیست - jaa-dozdist" = Home/land thief
Noah "رود ما - roode-ma" = Our river
Magi "مانده جا - mandeh-jaa" = The man who knows the owner of the home and land
Hashem "خاکشه - khakesh-eeh" = This soil belongs to him, the owner of the all the soils / dirt of the world
Maryam "مادرم - maadaram" = My mother, being a mother
Mary "مادری - maadary" = Motherhood, a girl who is expected to be a mother (roots for marriage, madam, Ms and Mrs)
Jahad "جا بخواه - jaa-bekhah" = Demand for having a home (not an enslaved on someone else's land)
Salvation "بساز و بشین - besaz-o-beneshin" = To live in your own built house and living in there
Babylon "برابرن - bara-baran" = Equals, people who shared the land equally amongst themselves
Malachi "مالکان - malekan" = Landlords, owners of the houses.
Pagan " پاره گان - paregan" = Those girls who lost their virginity
Sodom [and] Gomorrah " سردمه گرمم کن - sardameh-garmam-kon" = I am cold, warm me up, It was used by prostitutes
At that time there were no postal addresses, people used to put their name or their statue to claim the occupation of the home, like "Hassan's Home" so every name was followed by the word " jaa", later the tribe of yahoodies claimed the word "jaa" as their names to claim all the properties. Noah also picked the name "river" so they can also claim ownership of all the water bodies on land. Hashem is the same, to claim the ownership of all the soils in the world because of a name.
Juese also invented the Nail and Cross Joint to be used to build homes.
The word "نبي" is "مقنی" which is Farsi for well digger, that is why Islam says there are 124000 Nabi or prophets. Nabis were establishing communities away from each other by finding new water sources and digging a well. Prophet Muhammad was their leader and teacher, he also designed the rules and regulations for ownership of the water well and the surrounding land "محل" by the workers who dug the well. The name "محمد" is a title "محل مرد" which means the male member of the 12 member compound/colony.
I'm speculating here... But a motive could be, get the Romans out Jerusalem. But it was Turks who achieved this not the Persians
They did example Jerusalem
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Jews was inhabited in isphan and Salman was from there
baghdad is in babylon
Mount--Maaad , Mount-Sinai , Mount- Murai ,
Mhun--Maaad"UUN " Mhun--Sinai"UUN " Mhun--Murai"UUN"
Mh-maaad"UUN " Mh-Sinai"UUN " Mh-Murai"UUN "
A Mhmaaad or Mhmaaad , A Mhsinai or Mhsinai , A Mhmurai or Mhmurai , Immam"UUM " --Maaad"UUN " = Immam-Maad"UUN" or Immam--Maaadi or A Immam--maaad , [ All are the Title ] ,
Biblical words and names are Farsi/Persian, some are listed below:
Jew "جا - jaa" = Room / Home / Shed
Jesus "جا ساز - jaa-saaz" = Home builder
Christ "کار است, کار دست - kaar-ast/kare-dast" = The work we do using our hands to build a home, determines the ownership of that house
Genocide "جا نساز - jaa-na-saaz" = Do not build home
Genesis "جا نسازید - jaa-na-saazeed" = Do not build house (purell for genocide)
Gabrael "این جا بروید - jaa-beraveed" = Leave this home, executor of eviction
Palestine "پا و دستان - paa-va-dastan" = Legs and hands, [construction] workers
Disciple "دست پرکار or دست و پا دار - dast-o-paadar" = Having [skilled] hands for work
Joseph "جا زاد - jaa-zaad" = The male who was born in that home
Jouda "جا دار - jaa-daar" = One with home, not homeless
John "جای من - jaa-ye-man" = My home [in the future]
Judea "جادارها - jaa-daarha" = Those who have house (opposite of homeless)
Moshe "مال من میشه - maale-man-mysheh" = It will be mine
Judaism "جا دزدیست - jaa-dozdist" = Home/land thief
Noah "رود ما - roode-ma" = Our river
Magi "مانده جا - mandeh-jaa" = The man who knows the owner of the home and land
Hashem "خاکشه - khakesh-eeh" = This soil belongs to him, the owner of the all the soils / dirt of the world
Maryam "مادرم - maadaram" = My mother, being a mother
Mary "مادری - maadary" = Motherhood, a girl who is expected to be a mother (roots for marriage, madam, Ms and Mrs)
Jahad "جا بخواه - jaa-bekhah" = Demand for having a home (not an enslaved on someone else's land)
Salvation "بساز و بشین - besaz-o-beneshin" = To live in your own built house and living in there
Babylon "برابرن - bara-baran" = Equals, people who shared the land equally amongst themselves
Malachi "مالکان - malekan" = Landlords, owners of the houses.
Pagan " پاره گان - paregan" = Those girls who lost their virginity
Sodom [and] Gomorrah " سردمه گرمم کن - sardameh-garmam-kon" = I am cold, warm me up, It was used by prostitutes
At that time there were no postal addresses, people used to put their name or their statue to claim the occupation of the home, like "Hassan's Home" so every name was followed by the word " jaa", later the tribe of yahoodies claimed the word "jaa" as their names to claim all the properties. Noah also picked the name "river" so they can also claim ownership of all the water bodies on land. Hashem is the same, to claim the ownership of all the soils in the world because of a name.
Juese also invented the Nail and Cross Joint to be used to build homes.
The word "نبي" is "مقنی" which is Farsi for well digger, that is why Islam says there are 124000 Nabi or prophets. Nabis were establishing communities away from each other by finding new water sources and digging a well. Prophet Muhammad was their leader and teacher, he also designed the rules and regulations for ownership of the water well and the surrounding land "محل" by the workers who dug the well. The name "محمد" is a title "محل مرد" which means the male member of the 12 member compound/colony.
Tha Arabic videos are way more interesting, ask your friend El Fahd, to translate these videos for you, they would be very informative for your research.
Dr.Sami Dib., Dr. Luxenbourg ( pseudonym) Dr.Gilgamesh of the channel umat tanwir ( امة التنوير)with Sinharib.
"Legend end" also in Arabic.
Many other channels.
Would make your research way easier. missing a lot of words here, the Nestorians, the Judeo-nazarenes, the Arius Christians, the Ebionites and ofcourse the most important person Waraqa bin Nouafal.
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WHY DO CHRISTIANS WORSHIP JESUS?
EVEN THOUGH JESUS NEVER COMMANDED PEOPLE TO WORSHIP HIM.
JESUS ONLY COMMANDED TO FOLLOW HIM.
JOHN 8:12.
Bring in jorjani
Farsi means Persian...it has nothing to do with the Hebrew name (Pharisees).. this Salman is totally unknown in Jewish..
tradition..
Your analysis is not connected to reality.. that word comes from the Hebrew word פרושים (Prushim). and they lived in Israel and not in Persia
The term Prushim was relevant only at the time of the second temple.. since there were a few Jewish sects in Israel(Essies, notzrim, etc).. But after the destruction of the temple, all the remaining Jews were Prushim (ie Orthodox)... Since all other sects disappeared ftom Judaism...
You too dumb to comprehend the narrative Mel and Aj Deus trying to convey
Yes, Farsi means Parsi or Persian, you are correct, BUT Salman=Solomon, a name of Jewish origin, and before he was associated with "Mhmd," he was associated with the Jewish warlord-prophet Nehemiah bin Hushiel who was allied with the Persian state during the early 7th century war between the Sassanid Persians and the Romans.
About Jesus’s tribe affiliation: he has none. Jesus is a Jew after his mom, but Jesus does not have a (recognized) biological father after whom he can claim the tribe. So - this is a puzzle. Jesus is the Messiah but not as expected. His the messiah coming FROM the Jews - but he is not the “Jewish Messiah” as expected. Rather coming with sword, Jesus is coming with the teaching of humility and service.
The simple answer to this question is no. The leadership of the Jewish people in exile in the Sassanid Empire is well attested. I suggest that instead of indulging in speculation that you study Talmud, where this period is well documented. You may also then decide to leave idolatry and return to the G-d of Abraham, Issac and Jacob.
Hi.I do not intend to sound rude,yet idolatry does not exist with Jesus and God The Father are one.
Genesis 17.1-7,15-16
17When Abram was ninety-nine years old, the Lord appeared to Abram,and said to him, 'I am God Almighty; walk before me, and be blameless.(from a Church of England 🏴 pamphlet)
@@asifbrettishmaelmakki9 they worship a man as G-d, that's the very definition of idolatry. I'm happy to discuss Torah, but can we please do so in the language that is given to us by HaShem. Translation is just interpretation.
@@stubronstein9932 .
We understand that Jesus/Yeshua is very God of very God.
My take on it is, their is soul and Jesus persay soul is what The life is and is uncreated.
@@stubronstein9932 .
When u say worship Jesus, it's odd kind of because Jesus is not singled out and given a direction of to be worshipped too.
@@asifbrettishmaelmakki9 and that, my friend is why you are worshipping an idol. G-d isn't a man. Read Torah.
do you know what we like about you its three things the first you debunk that idea about arab and muslim don't have a history you prove they do have one inscription manuscripts you named its more valid than anything christian and you will force a lot to ask questions that we already have inscription and manuscripts and genetics for it actually we have a new racial theory i'm not joking
Not Muslim or Islam because they did not exist at that time !
Arabs were Christians not Muslims !!
It is about Muhammad a Jewish figure or many figures (exilarchs )
The origin of Islam later as a Jewish sect !!
third thing we really dislike why you dont want to us to play with you we discovered the Exodus happened in yemen etc
You are shooting from I don't where again. Salman Al Farsi was Persian. He converted to Christianity so that he can travel to Roman territory. Persia and Romans were mortal enemies in those days. Romans were very strickt in enforcing Christian only. He seems to have spent some time with some Christian monks and priests during his travels to obtain some credentials. Eventually someone discovers that he is Persian and
they sell him into slavery. I suppose they did not trust Persian slaves as well. His last master was a Jew in Madina. While he was a slave, he converts to Islam. The Prophet paid for his freedom.
He was kind of adopted by the Prophet, as he was neither from Mecca, nor from Medinah. Keep in mind that Jews were expelled from Roman territories because of their rejection of Jesus. He would be killed most likely if he were a Jew. Jews in Medinah escaped the Romans as well.
You are engaged in lies and misinformation. If you really believe in Jesus, you should not mix your personal ambitions with your service to him.
If you lie in the process, everything you say about Jesus will be viewed as a lie as well.
You are exposing the ugly face of Romans as you try to put down Islam. They were really brutal, ruthless even to each other. The love professed by Jesus
is a newly discovered artifact. There was no such a thing. It was all blood all the time.
Roman soldiers, governors, and eventually the emperor Constantine, were converted by many things: the faith shown by the Christian martyrs they tortured to death, the wondrous miracles accompanying those martyrs, signs in heaven - lights shining on martyrs' tombs, etc.
Keep denying the true God if you wish, foolish muslim, but try not to tempt other souls down to hell with you (bad for them, worse off for you!).
U still hold onto islamic myths and pure fiction instead of looking into reality and common sense..God bless...
What is this? My reply in defense of Christianity got CENSORED??
The roman soldiers, governors, and eventually the emperor Constantine converted due to various reasons: the faith of the Christian martyrs they tortured to death, or the wondrous miracles accompanying the martyrs, or signs from heaven above - eg. lights shining on the martyrs' tombs, the famous chi-rho sign given to St. Constantine, etc.
See you then, enemies of the Church who would rather believe the teachings of men than the witness of the incorruptible saints.
@@trinitymatrix9719You are not making an argument. Did Jesus say something about Salman Farsi? Did he pass the info this brain dead dude and to yuo. What I am saying is historical evidence. You are brainwashed.
@@pj_ytmt-123 You are delusional, see a doctor.
They just looking for stories to continue leading their followers astray.
Salman Alpharsi was a Persian not a Jew.
But Jay has to bring up new false stories for his sponsors.
bye bye islm and standard myth narrative😂😂
YAWN. Any EVIDENCE for these assertions???
Mel believes in three gods.
Liar.
@@IslamicOrigins
Is the trinity one self or three selves?
Is the trinity one mind or three minds?
Is the trinity one identity or three identities?
Is one god one self or three selves?
You won’t answer. That’s a confirmation of three gods.
You bore me. I call you a liar for a reason. @@AlonzoHarris235
GOD IS SPIRIT (mind you: not One Spirit but Spirit) and this
God is ETERNAL LOVE, called the Father
The ETERNAL WISDOM of God, which emanates eternally out of God is called the Son
The ETERNAL LOVE-FORCE emanating from God is called The HOLY SPIRIT
and all of this is ONE GOD, Who incarnated in the human being Jesus Christ, in order to teach us the way back into our spiritual home, from which we deserted by following Lucifer, His first created image of Himself, who turned because of misuse of his free will against the Creator 😊
Are you thick?
I converted to Jehovah's Witnesses, ask me anything
Such a shame you have decided to become a polytheist and accepted a bible altered to suit the polytheistic presupposition. I pray you come to the truth.
Why🎉😮😮
Look up Ben Burton Ladder of Jacob, correct the theology of Messiah.
read john about Jesus being the word and the word was God offcourse you will put in things not located in any manuscripts and say Jesus was a God not thee God ok fine now go to isaiah 44/24 and explain your lie buddy boy ,have never found a jw that can answer this and neither will you buddy boy, why does taze have a prymid as his tomb stone wasnt he perjure in court lying saying he knew hebrew when he did not its all a farse and you no it
Have you read the earliest copies of the Watchtower which show that the early JW were into numerology?
Since when Mohammad has Jewish friends?
Not in the SIN, which was invented centuries later. The earliest proto-Muslims seemed to have had close ties with the Jews.