Straight Pull vs. Bolt Action Rifles: Which is Better?
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- In this video, we're going to compare straight pull rifles to traditional bolt action rifles using two .30-06 guns. Both types of rifles have their pros and cons, but which one is the better choice?
First, we'll take a closer look at straight pull rifles, using the Beretta BRX-1. These rifles have a unique design that allows for faster and smoother cycling of the action. This can be especially useful in situations where speed and accuracy are important, such as in hunting or target shooting competitions. We'll take a look at the Beretta BRX1 rifle. This straight pull rifle features a lightweight design, making it a great choice for those who need to carry their rifle over time and distance. The BRX1 also has a detachable magazine, allowing for quick and easy reloading in the field.
Next, we'll examine traditional bolt action rifles. Bolt action rifles have been around for over a century and remain one of the most popular types of rifles in the world. They are known for their accuracy and reliability, making them a great choice for hunting and long-range shooting. In this video, we use the Sako 85 bolt action rifle. This rifle has a reputation for exceptional accuracy and reliability, with a smooth bolt action that is both fast and precise. The Sako 85 also has a detachable magazine, and is available in a range of calibers.
Which one is better? As with most things, it depends on your needs and preferences. In this video, we'll go over some of the pros and cons of each type of rifle, including accuracy, speed, ease of use, and more. We'll also offer some tips for choosing the right type of rifle for your specific needs.
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Straight pulls are cool but I think a lot of shooters choose turnbolt for the satisfaction of nailing a reload on a really slick action, like how enthusiast drivers often prefer a manual transmission despite it being slower..
Just as satisfying on a nice straight bolt
@@kamferjau I’m not knocking them, they can be lovely actions, just saying that some prefer a turnbolt _because_ they’re harder to operate fast..
I think it has less to do with that and more to do with the proliferation or mauser-ish actions trickling down from service rifles and becoming the default rifle layour. They're generally cheaper to produce than straight pull rifles too. Fortunately it seems that straight-pull guns are going to become more common in the US.
@@Ben-rq5rechallenge is part of the fun 💪🏻
The advantage of a straight pull is that you don't naturally cant the rifle when you work the action with a bolt gun it's impossible not to.
its not impossible by any means but you tend to automatically and it takes a lot of time to get rid of that habit
Do a burst fire and fully automatic fire comparison next, please!
Really?
@@BurninatorTheTrogdor Yeah, why not? It will be a good comparison video. It'll show the benefits of both firing modes
Under the bolt action video it looks like good joke lol.
I’m a big fan of the Swiss straight pulls. The mechanism is just so nifty.
I prefer the mannlicher system, i'm a whore for austria.
Only gay people use bolt actions, cuz they ain't pulling straight 😎
Used own 2 K-31's regret selling them and not getting a commercial version back when I could; Neuhausen mfg for the latter IIRC.
I went austrian, steyr m95. Fine rifle
@@Manco65 Yea K-31s (own 3 mint ones) is a sweet action. But still like my 1937, 1943 german K98 better.
Lefties love that ambi straight pull!
Excellent video as always and great content. The BRX1 should be a good choice for a beginner to expert with limited time to spend at range.
James go to Finland visit Sako some day. They've just launched their new AR style rifles for the military too ;)
Sako, beautiful machines, fired many in my time in Europe all bolt action, phenomenal equipment with some of the most beautiful finishes!
The last time I came this early my gf got mad at me 😢
The last time a came this early was last night but my wife is used to it.
@@Jburn92 same😂
Bf*
@@Jburn92 poor woman!!!
Mine said she wasn't mad just disappointed
Just picked up a K31 yesterday, such a cool rifle, and the quality is absolutely astounding for the time. Mine has cleaner machining and finishing that a lot of modern firearms, and it was made in 1934.
I've had the same experience. For an infantry rifle (or any rifle for that matter) the attention to detail is much better than it needs to be, but that's part of why we love them so much.
The K31 is the next battle rifle I acquire. That rifle is just an amazing piece of engineering. Bonus: the Swiss never used corrosive ammo.
@@g54b95 yeah but they used cheaper steel when the times got hard in the later years or the war. my grandfathers K31 is one of the ones with cheaper material. look out if the manufacturing year is 1943-46, check the locking lugs for cracks and get a professional to have a look at it if possible.
the manufacturing year is behind the metal plate of the stock.
if you get a "bad" one i heavily recommend using good shooting glasses. it might not fail for decades, but when it faiks it would be catastrophic, with the bolt coming straight back into your eye/cheek.
Ever seen sporterized versions of this?
Might be a decent way to get one cheap for a hunting rig.
Even though I like some sporterized guns, I do not advocate sporterizing any older military rifle.
There's already enough bastardized ones of them out there if you want one.
Maybe you can ask Beretta by their customer service is so lousy… lousy as in terrible. Lousy, as in not gonna buy any more of their weapons, even though I love my tikka and my Benelli
PLS go to Heym in Germany !!!
This was a good comparison of a straightpull vs a turnbolt with a traditional layout.
It would've also been interesting to see the Benelli Lupo in the mix, as it's a turnbolt with ergos tilted towards engaging moving game.
A James Reeves Italian video calls for a pot of spaghettios and meatballs. Authentic Italian.
As a pretty big M95 fan (the bolt is my profile picture), I must day that I'm real excited for this video and am rooting for the straight pull rifle lol
K31 gang here 🤌🏻🤌🏻
A straight pull, is still a bolt action.
Thanks for saying it. How can you have a gun channel and not know your firearm's action? And not know how to run a bolt with good technique?
Excited to see more straight pull actions on the market. I just bought a savage impulse a few months ago and its been loads of fun.
Very nice and intresting video, love the Bretta BRX-1. I'm sure that the straight-pull action is more easy and fast to use, but personally i still prefer bolt-action rifles.
**Wholesome Content Award**
Honestly, this is exactly the kind of range trip that makes shooting so great. Just a couple friends being honest, supportive, curious, and educational about their experiences and interests. James continues to demonstrate what our entire 2A community should act like when we're interacting online, in person, or at the range.
The BRX is definitely an awesome design and will sell well. i like both.
Definitely prefers straight pull. Would love to see desert tech or another company make a straight pull bullpup
FIMS firearms has a promising straight pull bull pup
Check out the savage impulse. The locking mechanism is like a hydraulic fitting
Straight pull actions have the same drawback as lever actions. Neither design "cams" the bolt out of battery to extract sticky cases. I didn't appreciate this before 9-Hole Reviews tested a Winchester 1895 on their range.
Some straight pulls do cam sticky cases out.
@@kamferjau please elaborate. The '95 Mannlicher does not, nor the Lee navy nor the K-31 and its derivatives.
@@eloiseharbeson2483 So what your saying is the older milsurp straight-pulls have that problem. Meanwhile modern production straight pulls are using different designs that likely mitigate or resolved that issue entirely.
@@Verdha603 I was hoping that you could offer some examples. Since you can't, or won't do so, my comment stands.
@@eloiseharbeson2483 I believe steel action, strasser and lynx cams. Also radial locking on some straight pulls have a lot larger locking area and many times stronger locking and can handle much higher pressure.
Your first motorcycle should be a dirt bike, your first hunting rifle should be a bolt action.
Why would you make that choice? I'm not sure being a good dirt bike rider makes you a better Street bike Rider? By the same token, a lever or pump-action can be a user friendly intro rifle action.
@@WALTERBROADDUS dirt has inherently less traction than tarmac so you learn how to handle loss of grip at slower and safer speeds
@@WALTERBROADDUS I started riding on the street first (1971 Triumph 500), then my Norton Commando. Then began blasting thru the countryside and sand pits on dirt bikes. No doubt that it makes you a better rider.
With bolt actions, I think watching these guys, (who are REALLY good), fumble with bolt actions like beginners, brought the same thing to my mind I guess.
In the 1990s I believe Mauser had a hunting rifle that was a straight-pull action.
It was Model 96. Blaser bought Mauser and did everything to downgrade it as not to be a competition. Model 96 patent rights were sold to minor Austrian player Rossler and is now marketed as Titan 16.
Would rather buy the sako or a Haenel JAEGER instead of the BRX1. All three can be found for around the same price. Straight pull go Haenel for ridiculous accuracy out off the box Sako and a Sako tends to hold its value.
Thanks for the video. I prefer the looks of the old K31, but the BRX1 seems like a great rifle. I probably won't be in the market for one, but I hope they succeed in the market.
If they had a wood stock to look like old k31s and m95s, I'd be fully interested
What about comparing bolt action, straight-pull action vs semi-automatic marksman rifles
And pump action rifle
Straight pulls have potential to be great hunting guns. However, as the M95 showed the Austro-Hungarians, it can be a nightmare for maintenance in the field. Basically, removing the bolt was easy to do, but to put it back in, one would have to cock the bolt using nothing but the locking lugs and pulling it back hard while they twist in your hand until it locks open and you can reinsert it. Since its under spring pressure now, any slight bump on the bolt could easily snap it back so you'd have to do it again. It was a nightmare to maintain.
same thing with the Canadian Ross rifle in WWI-great hunting rifle but nightmare in a muddy trench. The Swiss never really had a war so they never experienced maintaining their straight pulls under real field conditions. Straight pulls are great or even superior hunting rifles (although the difference is likely due to personal preferences) but inferior combat weapons
IMHO, that is realistic shooting/training. Not running around punching static targets. Thank you! I've coveted the Blazer R93 series since they were introduced, but everything i have from 17HMR to 458Lott is classic bolt. Thanks to Gunsight Academy and Cain Tactics, my wife and I are very proficient. Please do more "practical rifle" type videos.
Really nice rifles. But why would you engineer a sling mount into the barrel when the stock foregrip is an inch away?
...nice shooting under pressure. It looked difficult.
That Sako is so damn beautiful, I’ll take the extra time
Which is better? Full Semi-Automatic.
with 30rd magazine clip
With laser guided death bullets
Along with an optic that allows your bullets to achieve the terminal velocity of homing missiles
It better have a shoulder thing that goes up, too.
It looked like the bolt handle can be swapped to the other side with the BRX1. Since I shoot left handed, I kind of like that. I have avoided buying a dedicated left-hand bolt gun so that I stay in practice shooting normal guns, but if I could swap it as desired, that makes me way more interested.
Unsure as to how the safety or mag release is situated, but this may be a fully ambi gun.
The bolt handle definitely looks swappable as you said, so maybe a good choice for wrong handers.
I just saw a video on it, swapping the handle took about 10 seconds
That is awesome.
Swapping the handle is awesome but what is clever on the BRX1 is that you can change which side the discharged shell ejects on. That is a true ambi function.
Hunting buddy of me has a BRX1, so I had a few shots with it too.
Solid rifle, just didn't like the hollow plastik feel of it.
Sooo I got a Haenel NXT. Straight pull, laminated wood stock, light and accurate.
Iron sights or I’m not buying one
A neat very interesting video and cool rifles and the topic.I like these Prosciutto and Prosecco flavoured videos keep them coming.These rifles were not the shorts CCW type of firearms but they do provide the ham.Have a good one Mr.James. Say when is the Beretta going to release a hammer fired 10mm pistol?What was the price of these rifles?Can you compare these Italian rifles with the USA made straight pull action rifles?
Always trust a guy wearing a shirt showing he is sponsored by the item he is reviewing.
Satan told me so.
If your first shot misses are you really going to track and shoot a fleeing animal?
That Sako is Ill. Props to Beretta though for designing the BRX-1. I have always been a huge fan of straight pull actions like the K31. Both guns have a place and purpose in the firearms pantheon. Get both.
damn but that Sako looks schweet
All straight pull rifles should have high combs like the Sakos. Especially, like here, where the action doesn't mitigate bolt travel. Same problem with the Savage Impulse. Compare that to a Merkel Helix but they're bucks up. Better stock design is a cheap solution.
Underwhelming as highly anticipated to be expected.
Sure love watching a video and the- *NOT ALL AR’s ARE CREATED EQUALL!!!!! INTRODUCING THE SAINT VICTORRR, NEVER THE VICTIM ALWAYS THE VICTOR*
I wish the animals i was hunting moved as slow as that target James was shooting at lol 😂
Rather a slap or a punch ? In the face of course …. Pick one
Quote of the Day: @6:40 “I felt like I was working it pretty well, but it’s like… you can short stroke it. It’s a lot easier to short stroke this thing.”
Mauser had a straight pull in the 1990s. Really wish I would have bought the one in 6.5 Swedish Mauser that I handled. Great comparison!
I would like to see this in 20ga, Texas public hunting is shotgun only in most areas for reference.
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13:18 and 13:38 "Oh man, am I getting a phone call in the early 2000's...?"
Speed is generally not the issue in a hunting discipline... extermination yes, hunting no.
I have only shot a straight pull once when my shoulder was busted so I couldn’t use it to it’s full extent but I always felt like the only pro was that you didn’t have the side movements when opening/closing especially with a stiff spring but that’s about all you can shoot just as fast with a bolt gun
Every shooter in this video struggled with the Sako magazine release. It requires push, clip, pull jujitsu maneuvers that usually involves both hands… this is a minor annoyance with the Sakos for sure.
Just the newer ones
Yes sako purposefully did this with the 85, lost magazines in critical hunts is common, the sako is easy once you are familiar but a hunter does not need more than 5 shots…
Isn't that Danielle Valkyrie you're cheering with in the intro ?
Fantastic video! Thank you! Real-world experiences showcasing different shooters' preferences and capabilities are always enjoyable.
Cupping the bolt knob with the palm on the Sako as soldiers were trained to do before WW-1 would have narrowed the speed difference considerably. The BRX would still have won on speed of follow-up shots. It would also feel much more natural to anyone accustomed to a semi auto. That said, the straight pull has a strong advantage in the ability to mount the scope lower as there is no risk of the bolt handle hitting the scope body. American shooters prefer in-line recoil and the straight pull excels in this aspect again, though with hard recoilers, there's a method for letting the rifle recoil upward while you quickly work the bolt open and then when you shut it, you can push the muzzle down with the front hand and the additional push with the hand working the bolt to line the rifle up to shoot a follow up - dispersing the recoil upward and away from the shoulder does hurt somewhat less.
When I hear the Italiano music start playing I know there will be some gorgeous weaponry
Need to see straight pull vs lever action!!!
Italy keeps getting higher and higher on my list of places to run away to
Well, forget it if you plan on having fun with firearms.
Would love to see this in 375 Ruger or 375 H&H for African big game hunting.
The K31 is the straighpull king.🇨🇭
First!!😂
Straight pull good for hog hunting that are on the run. Or for wolves or coyotes.
This could be a sweet tactical rifle setup. Give me a .308 , 18in threaded barrel. I'm in . And since I'm here, make it 'nam tiger stripe.
They do a 20’heavy barrel threaded
What distance was the target in this video?
Damn Ricardo is a good shooter
It’s ugly but it works well….
I think Blaser invented this a long time ago.
I think with a rifle equipped with a scope a straight pull makes way more sense than a traditional bolt action. However, on a rifle with iron sights or a red dot, you can work the bolt faster and more reliably.
i like the K31 because of the loading sound to be honest
I like the straight-pull bolt-action the one change I would have is that I would have the handle on both sides on the straight pull. I would use the right handle if I'm standing and shooting. I would then use the left handle if I am prone using a bipod.
Running boar is cool, wish it was still a thing here.
When i look at that scope mount im just curious how rigid it would be with holding zero anyone got any info on it?
I think james is the bees knees
I can only say two words on this: Lee Enfield.
I would be interested in a deeper, dive into the mechanics of this. Specifically, how does the lock up hold enough to where the bolt doesn’t smack you in the face?
I can see the rationale of this comparison and comparing the speed of the two rifles in a timed pressure test is valid. But I feel you need to follow up with an accuracy test of the two at 100m, 200m and 500m. Then average the accuracy and the speed tests together.
Bring back irons on bolt actions
Iron sights on it are nice.
Sans installing rails I don’t know why more manufactures don’t install irons as a mandatory practice
I have a straight pull 22lr and love that thing way more than a standard bolt gun.
I love the Swiss K31
Excellent comparison of the two types. As you said; there is no wrong answer. I do think I would have a shorter learning curve with the BRX.
Wow 😮
What about a pump action rifle, how come not many of those exist? I would think that would be best for the quickest most accurate follow up shots. But hey im a noob
Ha, you’ve got a good point. I’ve always preferred my pump over bolts, and frankly, over semi-auto, too. The pump action actually gets you back on target and controlled more quickly. But, it’s a losing cause - pump rifles are a niche product. Pumps don’t fit in most saddle scabbards, either.
:-)
Main reason is that it’s not a good system for prone shooting; it’s similar to the issue with lever actions where racking the pump usually means you will have to readjust for every shot because you have to take the forend+pump off whatever your resting it on and rack the pump before returning to your shooting position.
Now if your going to be spending most of your shooting off hand or kneeling that won’t be much of an issue (hence why pumps are real popular in shotguns by comparison).
@@Verdha603
Yup, that makes sense. But levers have still been much more popular than pumps, even though both have the same deficiency.
I always thought it was because pumps are kinda ugly, heavy, unwieldy, and don’t fit in a saddle scabbard. And, Jack O’Conner didn’t shoot one. For me, I like mine, anyway. :-)
Offhand the rem 7600 carbine is very hard to beat, add a 10 shot mag lpvo or red dot and nothing can touch it.
I've always wanted to see a comparison of the ways bolts are manipulated in rifles in the same cartridge.
It could be centerfire or rimfire to allow the viewer to visually compare the following:
Bolt
Lever
Pump
Straight pull
Semi
This would allow us to see, which works well as to give the viewers a side by side comparison seeing people shoot at a moving target.
It might help viewers decide on a purchase.
The video itself was very interesting to me. Great content!
To make a very dumb contribution to the discussion: In WWI , Austria had Straight-Pulls and Russia had Mosin-Nagants .Russia vapulated them in combat .It was clearly the Rifles .
BRX1 has great potential for driven hunt-definitely it’s quicker than bolt action. I’m not talking about maintenance and personal preferences.
I have the best bolt action rifle of WW2, according to Ian on forgotten weapons. The 7.35×51 1938 Carcono .
World record for best visual aesthetic ever. Bravo. This is the Major Key of visual arts (minor keys sound like yeast infections). Ttyl
I'd want one in a wood stock. Though I wanna see some videos of the action up close
My dualing pair is my Sauer 202 and my Blaser R93 LRS.
A good rifleman will alway shoot better on the boar moving target with the Sako vs the Beretta due to the much shorter locktime on the bolt action.
The Beretta is a hammer gun. Might just as well use a Remington 7600 pump or an autoloader.
The best ISSF moving target competition shooters get 2moa 30 round groups.
The obvious comparison to the BRX-1 would be the Blaser R8. But i can make it short. You look for "bang for the buck" and money is of concern to you go with the Beretta its miles better in that regard. You dont care so much for money and you just want the single best hunting rifle you can buy go for the Blaser R8. Comparing the Beretta and the Blaser without knowing the price its just no competition, the Blaser is miles better.
Straight pull is more mechanically complex and expensive but the reason the military likes them is because it helps you maintain sight picture for follow-up shots. Bolt actions are going to be a lot cheaper and simpler to maintain and if you're a good enough shot you dont need 2. The only reason to get a straight bolt is if you think it looks cool. With proper training you can shoot a bolt action just as quick as a straight pull. However shooting quickly with the bolt action oftentimes leads to you and complete witness and bad locking.
Short and simple: buy a bolt action. Unless you're weird.
I wish I had the means to have enough ammo to run tests like this. Already have plenty of the rifles, but I need to spread my ammo usage out between videos, due to my severely limited resources as a small time channel.
Dudes pretty good nice rifle I’m going to buy a brx1 already got a sako 85
Been interested in double barrel shotgun. Just picked up a cz stagecoach with 30" barrels.
I have several classic bolt guns and bought a beretta brx in 300wm last autumn for driven boar hunt season in winter.
it’s nice to shoot when you need those fast follow up shots.
The real question is long term use.
As the straight back bolt has been used before in 90s by Mauser and was discontinued because the straight back developed head space problems with use. Where a traditional is locked in poistion so the expansion of gasses wouldn't blow the bolt causing head space gaps.
Is there a straight-pull Scout style rifle? Seems like they would go together like PB&J.