What is Mesh Wifi (& Why You Should Absolutely Get One)

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  • Опубликовано: 12 авг 2018
  • OK, by now you've probably at least heard the term Mesh Wifi, but maybe you aren't quite sure what it is, the benefits of a it, etc. So I figured I'd break it down for you in this video so you can decide if a mesh network right for you. Spoiler alert: I think it's right for a lot of people and full disclosure Samsung sent me their newest one for this video, but there's a good reason why I think it is probably the most beneficial one out right now as well as the one with the most benefits.
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  • @TheUnlockr
    @TheUnlockr  Год назад

    Hi guys, I made an updated video on what mesh wifi is for 2023 here! - ruclips.net/video/TEsFtdBCTMQ/видео.html

  • @lousimms4766
    @lousimms4766 4 года назад +132

    I'm officially an old man. It's May 2020 and this is the first time I've heard this term. In fact, I didn't even know routers look like this now lol

    • @realhustl_
      @realhustl_ 2 года назад +1

      Don't worry sometimes I feel super young haha!

    • @GeorgeLista
      @GeorgeLista 2 года назад +7

      It’s 2022, I just heard about this now too 😅

    • @scottveach
      @scottveach 2 года назад

      Just useless technology that crypto Bros use. It is literally just a router.

    • @ChristophWalks
      @ChristophWalks 2 года назад

      Same. It’s 2022 and just heard this today. Now YouTubing.

    • @chrisstogie7570
      @chrisstogie7570 2 года назад

      It's 2022 and this is the first I've heard of a mesh network

  • @PeterArnold1969
    @PeterArnold1969 6 лет назад +38

    I have read a couple of articles on mesh WiFi, but your explanation was so clear and concise. Your videos are also relaxing to watch. Keep up the great work, Dave.

  • @sethlievense8371
    @sethlievense8371 4 года назад +10

    Just a Samsung add. My Fritz!Box does ALL of this too, plus is well known for it's outstanding security. Love the mesh though.
    The main reason for me to have Mesh goes unexplained here.... while walking around the mesh smartly switches you over so your streaming/data never gets interrupted and you always have the best connection.

    • @LBoogy1913
      @LBoogy1913 3 года назад

      Fastest explanation. Thanks!

  • @2newme88
    @2newme88 2 года назад +8

    Thank you your comprehensive video which puts things into perspective. I do have dead spots where my child cannot use her school laptop in her room due to no internet connectivity. I know this will be a good investment. The interactive setup helps put my mind at ease, just knowing I don't have to go through the router to set anything up. Thank you.

  • @andrewh5640
    @andrewh5640 4 года назад +5

    So let me understand this...if you have a modem/router combo from your ISP, you need to have the first mesh hub plugged into that modem/router and then the second node would act as an extender? or could i just use 1 of these hubs and use it as an extender? thanks.

  • @fuzz33594
    @fuzz33594 6 лет назад +4

    Another well done video - and I learned something. Thanks David

  • @arbitrator6744
    @arbitrator6744 3 года назад +1

    I like your reviews mainly because they act as a teaching lesson, and provide a great feature review. You have knack for teaching folks 👍

  • @richardolko6660
    @richardolko6660 3 года назад +18

    If you were issued a Wireless Gateway (modem and router in one unit), you need to bridge the device as only a modem and then only use the #1 Ethernet port to the first mesh WiFi point. This avoids double NAT problems.

    • @Saphiras_Wolf_Den
      @Saphiras_Wolf_Den Год назад

      How do you bridge it?

    • @richardolko6660
      @richardolko6660 Год назад

      Either your ISP can remotely configure it or you can go into the gateway’s menu.

    • @Saphiras_Wolf_Den
      @Saphiras_Wolf_Den Год назад

      @@richardolko6660 would the lan ports still work fine?also the wifi turned off and the gateway set in bridge mode

  • @bosede-nage8467
    @bosede-nage8467 5 лет назад +6

    As with most adverts there are some important missing items- speed for instance- is it faster than a mains repeater, how much speed is lost generally ?

  • @BradHouser
    @BradHouser 5 лет назад +107

    The problem with repeaters is they all use the same channel, so bandwidth is effectively cut in half. They have a radio that receives a data packet, then rebroadcasts the same packet to extend the range. So while it is rebroadcasting, the base unit has to wait to send another packet, because the repeater is well, repeating. Kind of like having a conversation between the US President speaking English and the Japanese Prime Minister speaking Japanese. An interpreter translates for each leader. Each has to wait for the translation to get to the other person in order to keep the conversation going.
    Mesh Wifi uses multiple channels at once so they can be relaying the packet to other devices at the same time they are receiving them from the base unit. Maximum bandwidth stays the same. They do this with multiple radios sharing the same antenna.
    So repeaters are not as good as mesh networks.

    • @bjorntantau194
      @bjorntantau194 5 лет назад +17

      Thank you! This is what I expected from the video instead of the stupid advertisement garbage.

    • @Hizar2000
      @Hizar2000 5 лет назад +18

      current US president has trouble speaking English

    • @gil3289
      @gil3289 5 лет назад +1

      Thanks Brad Houser, very nice explanation.

    • @OGStarlightKY
      @OGStarlightKY 5 лет назад +1

      Finally, someone that's smart.

    • @One.Zero.One101
      @One.Zero.One101 Год назад +2

      I was about to ask this exact question. Thanks for giving the answer.

  • @PeterJCupitt
    @PeterJCupitt 6 лет назад +5

    Great job of explaining without being overly technical. You came across as knowledgible and trustworthy. I would certainly look into both Samsung and Google mesh networks after seeing this video :-)

  • @DJizLurch
    @DJizLurch 5 лет назад

    Appreciate you breaking down Mesh Wi-Fi for us in a detailed and good example way!

  • @The1TheyCall2-Tone
    @The1TheyCall2-Tone 6 лет назад +3

    Would you know if it will work with the apples time capsule (base station)

  • @quatele
    @quatele 5 лет назад +3

    Mesh specifically uses one of the wifi radios, usually the 5Ghz as the backhaul, leaving only the 2.4Ghz for wifi clients. A traditional lightweight AP uses a wired network connection and therefore has both bands available for data.. If you have the means, absolutely use traditional wired lightweight APs instead.

  • @hellotube3
    @hellotube3 5 лет назад +1

    I just bought the Google wifi and couldn't be happier! It was super easy to install and it took care of my wifi dead spots. Well worth the money if you like to stream in 4k and have a lot of devices running.

  • @charleshines6155
    @charleshines6155 4 года назад +1

    Do you lose network speed like you can with an extender or similar device? I have been thinking of powerline network adapters but in real life they are somewhat slow depending on the wiring that is already in your house.

  • @dgetzin
    @dgetzin 5 лет назад +3

    Hmm, this is EXACTLY what I used to do with apple’s airport express WDS in about 2005. I’m sad that apple has junked so many of their innovative legacies, but it is encouraging to know that other companies are doing a good job in at least this field.

  • @bassman87
    @bassman87 5 лет назад +24

    One feature you did miss is the wired connections. looking at the specs each device has two ethernet ports for connecting not only the router, but also other wired devices. This is great for homes that dont have structured cable running between rooms but have multiple wired only devices, such as desktops or older Smart TVs that wouldn't be able to join the network otherwise.

    • @rohobok2890
      @rohobok2890 2 года назад +1

      Does this mean I could plug my PC's ethernet port into one of the devices?

    • @bassman87
      @bassman87 2 года назад +3

      @@rohobok2890 yup. For instance I have a TP-Link "WiFi extender" which creates a Mesh with my existing wireless and I have a switch plugged into its LAN port. I can then plug the multiple devices in my home office into that switch and have it connect to my home network as if those devices were on the wireless network.
      In fact I don't need the additional wireless coverage so I've turned off the wireless rebroadcasting of the SSIDs, so im basically using it as a wireless point to point solution.

    • @rohobok2890
      @rohobok2890 2 года назад +2

      @@bassman87 Thanks for replying Trevor, appreciated!

  • @mjmendoza4104
    @mjmendoza4104 5 лет назад +2

    Hi! Great video! Just wanted to know a couple of things for this mesh wifi. Can this work outside the US? Are the hubs multi-volt? Will this work on 220v? Also, can this work as access points? I still want to use my main router for QOS. Thanks!

  • @justapotota4330
    @justapotota4330 5 лет назад +726

    So they're just fancy Wi-Fi extenders?

    • @KaoruSugimura
      @KaoruSugimura 5 лет назад +47

      Well, if by fancy you mean "smart" then sure. There's also the option to do backhaul on most as well which treats them as an AP, meaning you can have them on different channels meaning less or no interference. Extenders rebroadcast on the same channel causing interference, hence the huge loss in wifi up/download speed most people get with those.
      Mesh is great for large homes but there's a reason why they advertise for specific size homes. They really do mean that you should only be getting these if you have a large house with dead spots. Otherwise just get an Access Point that wires back to the router and broadcasts on another channel.

    • @khestal
      @khestal 5 лет назад +62

      The technology of the hardware is irrelevant, the name is just a fancy millenial name for extenders.

    • @larrygall5831
      @larrygall5831 5 лет назад +4

      I was going to say this.

    • @thinhhuynh30
      @thinhhuynh30 5 лет назад +142

      Chester they are not extender. With extender have different ssid which means you would have to disconnect from one extender to the next when you walk from floor to floor, a mesh has the same ssid (router name like homewifi) so you don't need to change WiFi connection as you go from floor to floor. It will automatically switch you. Extenders are garbage in my opinion because if you have a printer on an extender network you can't reach it when you are on a different extender with your laptop or phone. A mesh let's all your device work as though it is on the same network. I hope this helps.

    • @RealEmm
      @RealEmm 5 лет назад +11

      Tomjiujitsu Agreed. I love my mesh nettwork. The price is a bit higher then a traditional router, but I think it was worth changing from my old router. I used to buy extenders and the result was never as good as with mesh. For doubters, try it at least if you can afford the upgrade. Also bye bye deadspots on the lower floors of the house. Easiest setup ever..(it took me 5 min or so) and you have total control of all the devices, from the app you can download. Win win situation!

  • @RETARDMOBILE
    @RETARDMOBILE 5 лет назад +5

    "...but we'll get to that later. First off..." I was fully expecting Linus to show up with an audible link

  • @BrianBoruish
    @BrianBoruish 3 года назад

    Great video! Thanks. When using mesh wifi, does your router still broadcast as well? I really hope so. The mesh system replacing your router is not ideal for my situation.

  • @lambdamax
    @lambdamax 3 года назад +1

    Do you need to periodically reset these mesh routers? (unplugging them from the electric outlet, wait a few seconds, plug them back in)

  • @mellowman247
    @mellowman247 5 лет назад +7

    Solved a lot of problems for me.
    I got the 4 unit google mesh from Costco for $300. I have a large lone home with two detached garages. And a two WiFi Sprinkler controllers controlling 24 zones. I’ve had repeater units but I’ve always had trouble servicing the garage. and the sprinkler controllers always been marginal sometimes it works sometimes not. Many times requiring the repeaters to be reset. And required constant fiddling with to make the system sprinklers marginally work. I installed the Google mesh And it to was the easiest Wi-Fi system I’ve ever set up. What makes it nice over a repeater is all access points to use the same name and password instead of a different name and password at each repeater site. So all my devices automatically go to the mesh unit that best works for them at that moment. Not only did it solve the sprinkler controller problem but gave me solid Wi-Fi in both garages And even in garden shed that I never thought I’d have Wi-Fi in
    I too thought at first the price was out of line. But considering the problems it solved for me it turned out to be cheap investment.

  • @Wesley_H
    @Wesley_H 5 лет назад +9

    This needs Sean Connery as a spokesperson.
    “Look at this Mesh! Who’sh going to clean thish Mesh? What a Mesh! I jusht can’t believe thish Mesh.”

  • @fabienperez9937
    @fabienperez9937 4 года назад

    Is it efficient Enough to pick up enough signal say on your house patio to install à 1080p wireless caméra, l'île blink xt2?

  • @matsteel2292
    @matsteel2292 5 лет назад +1

    Hi excuse my ignorance but how is this Mesh setup different from a Wifi extender system that's been around for ages?

  • @ind.p
    @ind.p 5 лет назад +17

    thx for the explanation, now i m going to buy mi wifi extender... 😊

  • @TheWesman45
    @TheWesman45 5 лет назад +67

    It’s fine to do sponsored product spots but it really has the opposite affect when you lather on the positives for that product.

    • @DrLumpy
      @DrLumpy 5 лет назад +6

      And unless disclosed, likely illegal (FTC says you must disclose compensated ads) and against YTube's TOS (also must disclose). Thanks - Lumpy

    • @gregzeigler3850
      @gregzeigler3850 5 лет назад +1

      @@DrLumpy I'd probably "lather on the positives" too, if they send me a $250 unit for free...

    • @mmitchellhouston
      @mmitchellhouston 4 года назад +1

      @@gregzeigler3850 I've seen enough of this guy's reviews to think he is sincere.

  • @martincerveny8230
    @martincerveny8230 5 лет назад +2

    It sounds to me mostly like a WiFi roaming. So, what is a difference between 5 Unifi Mesh and 5 Unifi AP? I think going with these APs is much better (and yes, APs can be connected by WiFi to each other too).
    PS: I have 6 AP (AC-LR) at my house and garden, all but one connected via ethernet. But I just can't get it, why Mesh network should be better?

  • @Destron1001il
    @Destron1001il 3 года назад

    A Question please: Does the one you used works through concrete walls? I tried range extension devices before but the walls of my house are concrete and the signal did not get through and I don't want to buy $500 device that won't work either

  • @SethFowler
    @SethFowler 6 лет назад +76

    Really been lookin for something like this

    • @TheUnlockr
      @TheUnlockr  6 лет назад +3

      Happy I could help man! 👊

  • @marcoduca7661
    @marcoduca7661 5 лет назад +3

    Won't be better to get multiple AP on each part of the room, connected on a patch panel, on a switch?

  • @CooleyFlo
    @CooleyFlo 5 лет назад

    Thanks for making this video. Many people have “dead” WiFi spots around their homes and property, mesh is a great solution.

  • @phillipmcculloch6838
    @phillipmcculloch6838 2 года назад

    Your explanation cleared up several questions I had. Thank you!

  • @bengeorge9699
    @bengeorge9699 6 лет назад +27

    Whyvdont we just use bridges in usual router setup🙄 vid seems a bit promotional

    • @hierholzerd
      @hierholzerd 5 лет назад +2

      It is VERY ANNOYING that these "EDUCATIONAL VIDEOS ABOUT TECH", are really just Long Over-glorified Advertisements for a certain Product.
      (In This Case, It Is The Samsung SmartThings Product/s)
      Like Seriously? Just Be Honest Dude! Samsung PAID YOU To ADVERTISE Their Product/s!!
      You just Mention that they Happened to give you this to Try out, as if that was the only intention to Giving You This Gift...
      Yet, during the MAJORITY of This Video, you talk about why this Samsung Product SPECIFICALLY, is better than the rest.
      And Then To Make Matters Worse, you also VASTLY OVER EXAGGERATE HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO DO THINGS LIKE:
      "Configuring A Regular Router From The Router's Admin Section."
      NOTE TO THE AUTHOR:
      A HIGH Percentage Of People Watching Tech Videos, KNOW HOW To Configure A Router!!! Pretending Like It Is SOOOOO Difficult, Is An Insult To Our Intelligence!!!
      Because of your Sneakiness, Trying to Make An Advertisement Look Like A General Review IS WRONG!... Because Of This, I Will MAKE SURE That I Never Buy One. And, I Will Also Tell ALL Of My Friends The Same!!
      TheUnlockr - You Are The WORST Type Of Human! I Hope you NEVER Talk About Greedy Corporations Or ANYTHING of that Matter, Because you have PROVEN to me, that you will EASILY Sell Your Soul For Money!

    • @YoungDen
      @YoungDen 5 лет назад +1

      Btw non tech savvy users will have problems with bridging there main modem to another router. These meshes come in handy for home use and keeps the same SSID as in commercial use so it's good to see software trickling down.

    • @studiodevelopers2467
      @studiodevelopers2467 5 лет назад

      @Andrea Proone
      1 hes not right. they promote an awesome and amazing new product. if its amazing say its amazing. sure you can buy it so what nothing in life is free.
      2. caps is in fact free speech. if you dont like it, move on, obviously if youre interested in the topic of discussion then youre looking at it.

    • @studiodevelopers2467
      @studiodevelopers2467 5 лет назад

      @@YoungDen
      yes and for non tech savvy people, you can call geek squad or a repair guy who knows the stuff and would help you easily to set it up. new technologies are innovation, clean energy, self empowerment and help families be happy

  • @kingofallmen1
    @kingofallmen1 5 лет назад +13

    There are disadvantages to meshing, not mentioned here.

  • @bmschiotis91
    @bmschiotis91 4 года назад

    Great video just quick question, I have Verizon FiOS, the router must have the modem connected to it cause I just have 1 but I can't not use that router bc I have the coaxal connected to it for TV, can I still use mesh wifi?

  • @christiancarnahan1930
    @christiancarnahan1930 3 года назад

    Hello, I run a business and have up to 30-40 phones on a 2.4ghz network in a close proximity. What is the best option to keep a decent speed and lower or eliminate the disconnects?

  • @franzb69
    @franzb69 6 лет назад +413

    but what pisses me off is that it's too expensive, i'd rather install a bunch of cheap access points

    • @LoganAddisMusic
      @LoganAddisMusic 6 лет назад +3

      OpenMesh

    • @davidwpinkston4226
      @davidwpinkston4226 6 лет назад +11

      still2much, maybe i can find something in china before the tariff kicks in

    • @MsOlga1956
      @MsOlga1956 6 лет назад

      But those cheap wire hook up and have to add for Apple ever trip over the ​wire at night?

    • @benjaminberger9629
      @benjaminberger9629 5 лет назад +29

      In my opinion, just a bunch of expensive repeaters...

    • @MrDrp1983
      @MrDrp1983 5 лет назад +3

      Tenda Nova are pretty cheap and decent enough for the average consumer. They got rid of all my WiFi dead spots and three tp link access points couldn't do that.

  • @chlorinelori1064
    @chlorinelori1064 5 лет назад +18

    I have WiFi extender and it works fine, it’s quarter of the price your device is. It’s not revolutionary and it’s too expensive

    • @horalesupervato1
      @horalesupervato1 5 лет назад

      Chlorine Lori if you don’t mind me asking,which WiFi extender do you use ? I’m looking into getting a extender for my modemn

    • @joseandrade-uw9tf
      @joseandrade-uw9tf 4 года назад

      Chlorine Lori Mesh WiFi doesn’t half your WiFi it repeats the signal unlike the extender which does half WiFi speed to make it go further

    • @Presbiter
      @Presbiter 4 года назад

      @@joseandrade-uw9tf a repeater is an extender and uses half your speed. The thing you are talking about that doesnt half your speed is called a bridge and needs to be connected with lan to your modem.

    • @Nockky95
      @Nockky95 3 года назад

      @@Presbiter mesh can be connected with lan cable also..

  • @cmartin9605
    @cmartin9605 5 лет назад

    Ive had the smartthings hub for over about 2 years now. Just recently got the samsung connect mesh wifi/hub for my home to replace my older smarthings hub since the newer Samsung connect can be used as a smarthings hub as well. My question is, how can i move all my sensors from one unit to the other without having to delete them from one and reconnect to other? Is there an easy way to do this? Thx for your help.

  • @alejandramorales3629
    @alejandramorales3629 4 года назад +1

    this was so well made! very informative

  • @BenjaminLee2009
    @BenjaminLee2009 5 лет назад +32

    Please press read more and like this so it will help more people. Thank you.
    Range extenders:
    - extends the WiFi coverage area in your home/workplace
    - has a different SSID (WiFi name) than your router. what this means is that you'll have to manully switch wifi names on your mobile device when you walk around your house
    - halves the speed of the original speed you're feeding into it, capped at the maximum speed of your model
    Ethernet Powerline Adapters:
    - extends your internet through the electrical wiring in your home/workplace
    - only will work when there's more than 1.
    - whatever number of adapters that you have, they HAVE to be in the same electrical circuit of 300 meters or less
    - THEORETICALLY gives you full speed of the original speed you're feeding into it, capped at the maximum speed of your model
    - by default, it will use a different SSID from your router but there are ways to clone your router's WiFi name and password using an app
    - the older the wiring in your house, the more static/electrical interference it has, hence lowering the speed of your internet that comes out of the adapters
    - it's either a hit or miss for different people
    Mesh Router Wifi:
    - does what range extenders do, but using the same SSID throughout your home/workplace no matter how many nodes you use
    - dual band meshes (2nd node onwards) will half the speed that you are feeding into it, capped at the maximum speed of your model, unless all of them is plugged with an ethernet cable to the modem
    - tri-band meshes THEORETICALLY gives you full speed of the original speed you're feeding into it, capped at the maximum speed of your model (in practice you will get 90-ish percent of your original speed, capped at the maximum speed of your model) due to the 3rd band giving you dedicated backhaul
    - the more walls there are between one single node/mesh and your mobile device, the more dropped speeds you will experience
    - if you want full speed WiFi from your mesh (no matter dual or tri band), plug them into your modem or ONR.
    In summery range extenders and powerlines are cheaper options, but with more caveats than mesh. And mesh can be very expensive

    • @PNWCoastGuy
      @PNWCoastGuy 3 года назад

      Old technology wifi extenders are $20 each, while new "smart" technology that does pretty much the same thing is like $150 for pack of 3. Whoo Hoo!!!

  • @Starwarsgames66
    @Starwarsgames66 6 лет назад +23

    It’s nice to have 1/100th of your download speed on a good day

    • @jzoz
      @jzoz 5 лет назад +1

      Where or when do you live? 2003?

    • @Starwarsgames66
      @Starwarsgames66 5 лет назад

      Mr Barack Obama well Obama didn’t help the internet

    • @jzoz
      @jzoz 3 года назад

      @@chupapibingbong Wrong person ding dong

  • @michaelpalosaari9460
    @michaelpalosaari9460 4 года назад

    Hi... I have a question about the use of Mesh network to get internet into my shop on my small hobby farm. My modem is in my small 400 ft cabin, and my shop is about 120 ft from my cabin. Will these mesh networks reach that far from my cabin to my shop. I want to get internet for work in my shop office. Thank you in advance for your help.
    I live in northern Idaho.

  • @jcortes06
    @jcortes06 2 года назад +1

    This is 4 years late, but finally heard of mesh WiFi. Thanks for the info!

  • @kawilui
    @kawilui 5 лет назад +7

    Mesh inside the house but how about mesh outside like football field or separate garage? Will this work with the distance?

    • @AlexanderRay92
      @AlexanderRay92 5 лет назад

      There'd be too much congestion for a wireless backhaul, and at that scale you'd run into issues with latency and reliability over many hops.
      Ubiquiti, who makes a line of consumer mesh access points (amplifi) also makes 'enterprise' mesh wifi access points that CAN cover things like a football stadium or hotel - but they all use an ethernet backhaul, with the ethernet itself also providing power. The 'mesh' there has to do with the ability of wifi-enabled devices to roam across multiple APs on a single session, but they generally share 'layer 2' or switch/ethernet-level common connectivity back to a central router.

    • @Tech-Synthetic
      @Tech-Synthetic 5 лет назад

      They actually do make exterior mesh nodes specific for that situation but ill be honest, until the mesh type network has been around for a while those are going to be pretty pricey more so than the in home versions as they need to support some sort of water resistance and additional protection for outdoors. Garage application might actually be feasible though. Distance is one of the limiting factors of small mesh nodes but in theory you could make it work for several thousand sq ft areas.

    • @AlexanderRay92
      @AlexanderRay92 5 лет назад

      True, all-wireless mesh networks at that scale (football field and such) intrinsically make little sense, though. Namely because such points generally are omni-directional and wifi is collision-prone, a large number of such devices attempting to talk to each-other - on top of all the devices talking with them - would lead to significant performance degradation. Even in the best case, there's still potentially a large number of hops back to the gateway, which would particularly impact things sensitive to latency (e.g., communications technology).
      A hybrid system may work, sure, e.g., one with a core of wire-backed APs with a few mesh points added in to cover one-off areas and the like. The bigger issue, though, is that these wireless mesh systems still require a wire: the power cable. And right now, power-over-ethernet systems are actually fairly mature and cheap, and more than capable of powering wireless access points, so for a large installation it's not as if running only power is easier or cheaper than running only ethernet. And if you can just as easily (arguably easier and cheaper because not high voltage work) run ethernet as power, and also get the benefit of greater stability, throughput, and device capacity, why would one instead go with wireless mesh?
      As far as small areas go, I think a hybrid system would work well, assuming that mesh points are no more than one hop or so removed from the core wired AP system; you may be able to get away with one more or so, assuming few other users, but it becomes exponentially worse for each hop from the get-go. It should also be mentioned that installation of ethernet cabling into housing is often unnecessary for houses since the early 2000s (in the US) since many have ethernet used either openly or as the medium for phone jacks - requiring only a simple punchdown tool/block to reterminate as ethernet. And at that point, you can either use a power injector for PoE at the end, or possibly run PoE directly through the wire (if the cable is high enough quality) and not have to worry about power, either one being vastly technically superior.

    • @Tech-Synthetic
      @Tech-Synthetic 5 лет назад

      ​ Typically the omni-directional capability rarely impedes its ability to communicate as most mesh networks use a specifically configured band or in EERO's case thread communication to talk back and forth that is auto optimized for networks in the area so as to prevent this very thing of congestion of specific channels/bands. As far as simplicity goes most of the time it is easier to just plug in a device to the wall and go. If your house or where you're staying does indeed have the ability of wired that is obviously always going to be better.
      There are actually vast amounts of housing at least in a lot of the area's near me even new ones that don't always have cabling that can be used for that specific task (at least not in a simplistic way, if you're technically proficient it is definitely easier though) I know of the last 3-5 places I've stayed it was rare that we had pre-wired ethernet or phone lines that would not be affected by those around you. As far as latency it normally doesn't get affected very much (in my situation usually no more than 2-5 ms ping) if you're application is 6000-7000 sq ft or less which the average house is. Small area's however would require 0 additional hops as it is capable of communicating directly with the host node so there would be no need for daisy chaining.
      In my personally experience, I've use almost every one of the most popular mesh networks. I agree there are a few that are in fact terrible and does seem like you just connected a bad router to 1-2 other cheap extenders, but there are also ones out there where the overall experience and reliability is unmatched in speed and in latency in every corner of my home. I currently have the Velop 3 Node one of the expensive options in my house and all throughout my house (roughly 4000-4400 sq ft) I have faster speeds than what I pay for and I also typically, on tests only have a 7-9 ms ping and in game or during real world measurements have between 20-35 ms ping which is amazing considered my entire house is wireless running on 3 nodes. I also tend to have practically full bars everywhere in or even near my house all the way around.

    • @studiodevelopers2467
      @studiodevelopers2467 5 лет назад

      its usu around buildings, football field too large

  • @AltianoGerung
    @AltianoGerung 5 лет назад +374

    Bottom Line: Shouldn't buy it.
    This is just more like an ads than review.

    • @RyadMM
      @RyadMM 5 лет назад +11

      Thank you for saving 7 minutes of my life

    • @godinisest
      @godinisest 5 лет назад +4

      he even turned the down side argument into a positive point hahaha

    • @marcelosantana9311
      @marcelosantana9311 4 года назад

      I could hear the cash register at the end. 😂✌️

  • @Rezerex-
    @Rezerex- 5 лет назад

    Would I be able to keep same signal strength to the guest house? An run a wired connection through the hub?

  • @wranglers2
    @wranglers2 5 лет назад

    Currently I have my PC hard wired to the wifi modem. How do I connect my PC with a mesh network.

  • @MrSovalev
    @MrSovalev 5 лет назад +27

    you can litterally do this with some random 30-50usd routers, just with little tinkering, for a third of price. Name your wifi same on every router, same type of security and password voila your device is automatically connected to strongest signal.

    • @dibbyo456
      @dibbyo456 5 лет назад +2

      MrSovalev no they don’t unless the old one is disconnected first

    • @Tech-Synthetic
      @Tech-Synthetic 5 лет назад +2

      I mean yea.. you "could" do that... but not only would you have (x) amount of the same wifi name but your network would also suffer greatly because each of the extenders uses bandwidth consistently just to communicate with your router.

    • @sloebone7399
      @sloebone7399 5 лет назад

      How much is your time worth?

  • @mjcbryan
    @mjcbryan 5 лет назад +3

    How is this any different from apples airport extreme hubs?

  • @kylebaldwin4325
    @kylebaldwin4325 4 года назад +1

    Do you still need a router in place if I were to buy a mesh system?

  • @kmw497
    @kmw497 2 года назад

    I plan to purchase meshed WiFi units and connect them to my DLink DIR-830 WiFi router. Is my understanding correct one of the mesh WiFi units has to be ALWAYS physically connected (via Ethernet cable) to their main router? It may lead to a situation where the router and one mesh unit are beside each other, i.e. when we have 1 meter Ethernet cable. Won't router and the nearby mesh device interfere each other?

  • @Watcchh
    @Watcchh 5 лет назад +4

    When I first looked at the thumbnail I thought it was a big ass oreo

    • @tonee4799
      @tonee4799 4 года назад

      NeonRL I’m dead 🤣

  • @geekmangreg1677
    @geekmangreg1677 6 лет назад +16

    The one thing that concerns me about mesh systems, is that I've read a number of reviews from people who have wireless security systems and cameras such as Arlo and Blink, who have said their cameras occasionally will lose sync with the base station they have when on these mesh Networks. That's a deal-breaker, at least to me.
    I'd love to see a review on a couple of these systems after someone has had them for a while and been using items like wireless cameras on them, to see which ones retain connectivity better, Etc.

    • @AlexanderRay92
      @AlexanderRay92 5 лет назад

      Mesh networks like this are a useful tool for certain applications, but IMO I would try to avoid anything more than a single hop away from an ethernet-wired AP. Some of these mesh systems (I've only set up Amplifi) support ethernet backhaul, so you can (for example) get 95% of a house covered by ethernet-backhaul AP and then add a meshpoint or two to cover things like a patio or yard.

    • @Tech-Synthetic
      @Tech-Synthetic 5 лет назад

      This is definitely a valid concern, it really depends on what your budget and needs are. Personally I have the Linksys Velop 3 Node mesh in a 4000 or so sq ft home with a cm1000 docsis 3.1 modem and I almost never have any issues with any of the connected devices (like cameras, smart door bell, security system, smart lights, etc.).

    • @diannetimucarter3817
      @diannetimucarter3817 2 года назад

      @@AlexanderRay92 look

    • @ChuckDeezel
      @ChuckDeezel 2 года назад +1

      I would have to disagree I have ADT wireless security cameras and this actually solved my issues.

    • @ChuckDeezel
      @ChuckDeezel 2 года назад

      Google Wifi mesh here

  • @12388753
    @12388753 2 года назад

    Will more hubs make the signal stronger?
    I am using the same WI-Fi network in a neighbouring house, and the signal in that house can get weak when there is a lot of traffic there. I have 4 hubs in the house where the fibre comes in, and 2 hubs in the nearby house. Would the signal get stronger if I put an additional hub in each house, on the walls that are facing the other house and vice versa? :)

  • @bensonr
    @bensonr 5 лет назад

    What is the model number of the Samsung device you are showing. Just want to make sure I am purchasing the correct one

  • @GeorgeOu
    @GeorgeOu 5 лет назад +192

    Installing multiple APs is not only cheaper but much faster. If you want ultimate speed you can use a wired Ethernet to connect each AP or if that's too much trouble to wire you can use a cheap $70 PowerLine Ethernet link which is still faster and cheaper than these "Mesh" products which is just a slick marketing term for Wireless repeater or WiFi backhaul.
    That said this video might as well be a paid advertisement.

    • @DrLumpy
      @DrLumpy 5 лет назад +2

      I'm pretty sure it is. Thanks - Lumpy

    • @jerryrobinson278
      @jerryrobinson278 5 лет назад

      ..im getting same 400mbps all over the house, how can I increase I have gig speed package

    • @GeorgeOu
      @GeorgeOu 5 лет назад +2

      That isn't the point. You're paying a lot more money for something that isn't anything new.

    • @GeorgeOu
      @GeorgeOu 5 лет назад +12

      Since when did this turn into a discussion about Enterprise Wireless LANs? I know a lot about enterprise WLANs since I've designed them for 15 years but that's irrelevant here. I'm comparing this to a small $50 802.11ac Wireless Router/AP, the mesh devices are 2X the price and 1/4 the speed when operating in mesh repeater or wireless bridge mode.

    • @ya7yaGuitar
      @ya7yaGuitar 5 лет назад +1

      Only wireless engineers knows the truth...smh

  • @rightclickdelete
    @rightclickdelete 3 года назад +3

    I thought Loki was doing a mesh wifi review

  • @FalconFlyer75
    @FalconFlyer75 4 года назад

    where should I place the second node?
    Modem is on the first floor, my stuff is on the second floor, should i put the node on the second floor?

  • @squilliam216
    @squilliam216 2 года назад +1

    so does a mesh wifi router replace the original router? or do i plug it into modem and use another to extend wifi?

  • @TimmyME
    @TimmyME 5 лет назад +20

    Sounds good... and then came the price. "Next video!"

    • @moshpitsonly2778
      @moshpitsonly2778 4 года назад

      It’s not too bad the Eero pro is $500

    • @agent6467
      @agent6467 3 года назад +1

      yeah sure it is a lil expensive but i think that it's prob worth it

    • @gregrizal5043
      @gregrizal5043 3 года назад +1

      It will became cheaper and cheaper overtime just like any new tech gadgets.

  • @geirleirvik1478
    @geirleirvik1478 5 лет назад +23

    As a Wi-Fi professional I must say you have an interesting sales pitch. In most apartments a single well placed AP is the way to go. Mesh is most likely the worst thinkable approach as you resend all traffic in the spectrum/ time you have available an extra time per hop. Wiring your house for APs and using clustering APs will improve the user experience and not just the signal strength your wireless client will see. Each channel is a shared media, meshing just ensures your traffic to be carried in this shared media double or triple. Mesh is a waste of money indoors - pull some cable to good locations and place the APs in a location an orientation that provides the very best coverage.

    • @user-fm1do5cz8t
      @user-fm1do5cz8t 5 лет назад +4

      Yes. But you have to acknowledge that traditional bridging of routers doesn't provide seamless roaming. And that is one reason to use a mesh wi-fi network. Also, this technology gives the household an easy way to set things up without having to call tech support.

    • @user-fm1do5cz8t
      @user-fm1do5cz8t 5 лет назад +2

      @yourleftnut1 That setup doesn't provide seamless roaming. And is the main reason why one would like to setup a mesh wi-fi.

    • @edgarcia1981
      @edgarcia1981 4 года назад +2

      My house is built in concrete, to do all the wiring and civil work would cost me the same as the mesh and all the time for doign that... I guess I'll get the mesh

    • @thetruth2929
      @thetruth2929 Год назад

      Hi. I need to get wifi to a block of apartments to connect to 10 security cameras in the building. I live next door to the building (landlord and owner of property) i have been told to buy this mesh system and extended my home wifi to the building next door which is about 2000sq feet away. Is mesh wifi better or should i just get a router and put a sim card in there and pay £20 for unlimited data?

    • @geirleirvik1478
      @geirleirvik1478 Год назад +1

      @@thetruth2929 10 security cameras are likely to create a lot of traffic. If they connect to a cloud service and connect via WLAN, sure 4G would work, if the signal is good. However if the cameras are 2.4GHz you could have 5GHz point to point. For the best quality you may end up paying $$$. For less than 400 yards a 60GHz system with point to point could work well. However if all possible a cable would be best.

  • @richarddiaz474
    @richarddiaz474 4 года назад +1

    Will it work through cement / plaster walls?

  • @WayneLouie
    @WayneLouie 4 года назад

    So once it's installed do you see both 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz? On another system... I think Orbi you have to telnet into it and type in commands to be able to separate them. I ask because some devices will only connect to 2.4 GHz.

  • @astroko
    @astroko 5 лет назад +4

    being able to put your IoTs on a different subnet or entirely different network is by far the smartest.

  • @RipsterSA
    @RipsterSA 5 лет назад +7

    Nice. But RANGE EXTENDERS have been around for ages.

  • @pr1nceavi
    @pr1nceavi 2 года назад

    Thanks for the video!
    Could the Mesh access points work with a regular router that I got from my ISP?

  • @leemendez7876
    @leemendez7876 Год назад

    Can anyone help. I have an out building (wooden shed) which is only about 10 metres from my house. I can pick up my broadband in there on my phone but not on my PC. Any ideas? Seems like it's a pc issue rather than the signal side of things.

  • @DiaXisHD
    @DiaXisHD 6 лет назад +4

    How about a powerline adapter?

    • @TheXxhotdogsxX
      @TheXxhotdogsxX 6 лет назад

      Ya, way cheaper and still effective alternative!

    • @BenjaminLee2009
      @BenjaminLee2009 5 лет назад

      Well in an ideal situation, if the powerline adapter says it's maximum speed is 1300mbps, and you have at least 1000mbps on your router, whatever that comes out of the adapter SHOULD NOT be less than 1000mbps. What do I mean by 'ideal situation'? It means there's no surge protector/protection in your home circuit, provided that you plug BOTH adapters straight into the wall and not through extension sockets, and also no more than the maximum electrical wiring length that the adapter says it can go.

    • @alanhuang5656
      @alanhuang5656 5 лет назад

      Depends on what you're doing. If you're gaming on it, the latency is pretty bad and it can end up being kind of a waste of your money.

  • @bobbybologna3029
    @bobbybologna3029 5 лет назад +5

    i don't get it.. just bridge cheap APs everywhere

    • @bradleyfreeman9154
      @bradleyfreeman9154 5 лет назад

      Most people are renting and don't have luxury of knowing they are going to live there long enough to pay tech men to come place ethernet from one side of the house to the other/upstairs, plus the app gives freeze action and monitoring that normal ap don't, when I move out and get my own place I will do it the AP way but for less savy people this is a good option

  • @tawnkuimi-uru7212
    @tawnkuimi-uru7212 5 лет назад +1

    I thought your video was very understandable and informative for a techno-challenged geezer such as myself. Thank you.

  • @macbrebonicks8668
    @macbrebonicks8668 5 лет назад +1

    So will this fix my issues with Remote Play on my PS4?

  • @scottmccluremcclure3916
    @scottmccluremcclure3916 5 лет назад +5

    Nice ad

  • @naqeebk
    @naqeebk 5 лет назад +5

    And how exactly is this any better than a wifi extender??
    Just because you got it for free, doesn't mean its automatically good..

  • @chrisg2739
    @chrisg2739 5 лет назад

    Can I add a mesh to my existing Wifi? I have a nighthawk and love it, so I would love to add these to it.

  • @RajaSingh-ce2fq
    @RajaSingh-ce2fq 4 года назад

    Im on wifi not wired and game a lot but have real trouble with connection/lag - Would you recommend mesh for gaming? Thanks

  • @Ramel34
    @Ramel34 5 лет назад +4

    So basically it's just automated extenders that uses a SNMP type software .

  • @weatherwheel3109
    @weatherwheel3109 5 лет назад +54

    its just a wifi extender with a new marketing name

  • @valeriemaryman8345
    @valeriemaryman8345 5 лет назад

    Does anyone know if I have to replace the network router provided by the cable company to set up a mesh network

  • @camerondempster135
    @camerondempster135 3 года назад

    Great video, thanks for the education! The question, do all the "Hubs" need to be plugged into the same electrical circuit wihin the house? My House has two circuit boards so I'm not sure if the "MeshNet" would work?

  • @SomeDudeQC
    @SomeDudeQC 6 лет назад +20

    Lol 334 Mbps down and I've got 15

    • @slayer45670
      @slayer45670 6 лет назад +1

      Marc-André B dude I got 12 with no other people using the internet, it’s usually 9- 10

    • @yhwhechad
      @yhwhechad 6 лет назад

      Both ya niggas is broke I'm at 275 down and there is 6 ppl where I live plus 3 other devices connected at all times for $80 bucks ah month

    • @slayer45670
      @slayer45670 6 лет назад +1

      Ant Harlem for me it's not about being broke, it's where I live. I live outside of the city and there is only one internet provider out here.

    • @yhwhechad
      @yhwhechad 6 лет назад

      @@slayer45670 damn that really really sux... If I were u I would get a Verizon unlimited WiFi hotspot u'll get at least 25 to 125 down

    • @slayer45670
      @slayer45670 6 лет назад

      Ant Harlem Verizon, no shit? Imma look into that, thanks man👍

  • @coolabrar10
    @coolabrar10 6 лет назад +3

    If i get a mesh wifi, do you still need to still be with a contract with an internet provider?

    • @WuZei
      @WuZei 6 лет назад +4

      Abrar Mohiuddin yes. This isn’t replacing your ISP...

    • @coolabrar10
      @coolabrar10 6 лет назад +2

      @@WuZei oh rip, I wish it did ;(

    • @coolabrar10
      @coolabrar10 6 лет назад +2

      @@moeb1470 pardon?

    • @mfmr200
      @mfmr200 6 лет назад +2

      lol

    • @KingRockport
      @KingRockport 6 лет назад +4

      No you don’t but it ll connect to the skynet cause Its A.I bruh

  • @starbase218
    @starbase218 3 года назад

    I don’t really need a lot of coverage and I don’t have smart lightbulbs. But what I like about these is that they look sleeker than the typical “router with antennas” techy look. Not sure if any performance is sacrificed though.

  • @steveaustin6858
    @steveaustin6858 5 лет назад

    do the side hobs have ethernet plugs ? so that i can connect to my pc

  • @jonmiles8091
    @jonmiles8091 5 лет назад +3

    Plume tracks history and browsing apparently.

  • @jasonj.l7155
    @jasonj.l7155 5 лет назад +3

    I got a xiaomi wifi extender for less than $ 10

    • @jasonj.l7155
      @jasonj.l7155 5 лет назад

      @Alex Jackson I have a big house, so I bought two extenders, when you set them up, the system will automatically ask you if you want to change the name of the extenders to match with the main router so the extender will automatically connect the nearest wifi source for you when you are moving in the house.

  • @bobmetzger51
    @bobmetzger51 3 года назад

    Great video.... thanks for your time and input.

  • @Jazagivid
    @Jazagivid 5 лет назад +1

    Better range slower speed?
    And now beside my phone deciding constantly which hub it wants to use now also hubs try and find the best route and make us unconnected.
    It should be when traffic is flowing don't search for a better option or route. Both on phones and these hubs. But thats not my experience.

  • @nathanielbeven9052
    @nathanielbeven9052 5 лет назад +9

    or just skip this ad and buy a wireless repeater for a quarter the cost of mesh networking

    • @ronin43
      @ronin43 5 лет назад

      no good half of your wireless speed

    • @hierholzerd
      @hierholzerd 5 лет назад

      It is VERY ANNOYING that these "EDUCATIONAL VIDEOS ABOUT TECH", are really just Long Over-glorified Advertisements for a certain Product.
      (In This Case, It Is The Samsung SmartThings Product/s)
      Like Seriously? Just Be Honest Dude! Samsung PAID YOU To ADVERTISE Their Product/s!!
      You just Mention that they Happened to give you this to Try out, as if that was the only intention to Giving You This Gift...
      Yet, during the MAJORITY of This Video, you talk about why this Samsung Product SPECIFICALLY, is better than the rest.
      And Then To Make Matters Worse, you also VASTLY OVER EXAGGERATE HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO DO THINGS LIKE:
      "Configuring A Regular Router From The Router's Admin Section."
      NOTE TO THE AUTHOR:
      A HIGH Percentage Of People Watching Tech Videos, KNOW HOW To Configure A Router!!! Pretending Like It Is SOOOOO Difficult, Is An Insult To Our Intelligence!!!
      Because of your Sneakiness, Trying to Make An Advertisement Look Like A General Review IS WRONG!... Because Of This, I Will MAKE SURE That I Never Buy One. And, I Will Also Tell ALL Of My Friends The Same!!
      TheUnlockr - You Are The WORST Type Of Human! I Hope you NEVER Talk About Greedy Corporations Or ANYTHING of that Matter, Because you have PROVEN to me, that you will EASILY Sell Your Soul For Money!

    • @ThatOneDudeWhoPostsStuff
      @ThatOneDudeWhoPostsStuff 5 лет назад +1

      I use a repeater and my WiFi went from 200 down 20 up to 10-20 down 5-10 up.
      Not good at all.

    • @Tech-Synthetic
      @Tech-Synthetic 5 лет назад +1

      There's a reason they are a quarter the cost... They're only a quarter as good at what they do... Actually I would have to say its closer to an 8th as good but... sure.. do that..

  • @completesentences2125
    @completesentences2125 4 года назад +3

    I was considering it until you said “it’s also a smart hub”. I’m not interested in that creepy smart home stuff everywhere.

    • @lydellb
      @lydellb 4 года назад +1

      Yep. I was looking at the google system but then it comes with alexa and all of that shit. Dont want it. Just WiFi please.

    • @_scions
      @_scions 4 года назад

      Get used to it, boomer

    • @completesentences2125
      @completesentences2125 4 года назад

      _scions I was born in 1988, dummy.

    • @_scions
      @_scions 4 года назад

      @@completesentences2125 liar

    • @completesentences2125
      @completesentences2125 4 года назад

      _scions Ok.

  • @siddhesh6530
    @siddhesh6530 5 лет назад

    Is it any different than having a main router and a few boosters ?

  • @TMDangerMouse
    @TMDangerMouse 11 месяцев назад

    I set up a 2 unit mesh system for a friend but it had it's own WiFi signal to log on to, rather than just extend the WiFi that's already in place from the main router.
    Is this normal, I thought it was just connected to the main router/modem and used the same login without creating another network?
    Thanks for any advice given 🙂

  • @ianofliverpool7701
    @ianofliverpool7701 5 лет назад +4

    Nothing more than a advert made by a vlogger who received atleast a free product.

    • @Anonymous-pm7jf
      @Anonymous-pm7jf 5 лет назад

      RUclips is full of them...practically every single "reviewer" is that way.

  • @farhantanveer4535
    @farhantanveer4535 6 лет назад +90

    this dude should go easy on those facial expressions

    • @jessicalt4121
      @jessicalt4121 5 лет назад

      Farhan Tanveer ha!!

    • @FOLLOW5ME5DOWN
      @FOLLOW5ME5DOWN 5 лет назад

      Lol

    • @jameslindbloom2615
      @jameslindbloom2615 5 лет назад

      If you don't have the attention span to listen to what's being said you should be in technology in the first place.

    • @cameronblanchard1008
      @cameronblanchard1008 5 лет назад

      @@claythonpender4418 LOL was thinking the same CLEAN YOUR FUCKING TEETH!!!

    • @f-22r
      @f-22r 5 лет назад

      Have seen worse.

  • @financialdivorceservicesfa3265
    @financialdivorceservicesfa3265 3 года назад

    Can two people use the app for the same house? What I'm really asking is - is my husband going to control this without me being able to change it, if I need to?

  • @GateStriker
    @GateStriker 4 года назад

    How does it solve up conflicts. I found that this mesh causes too much ip conflicts and need reboot every time to resolve this. Am taking about deco M4 may be other mesh has same too