Have you used Google's Wifi? Google Wifi: geni.us/GoogleAc1200 Google Nest: geni.us/GoogleAc2200 Netgear Nighthawk: geni.us/Nighthawk Timestamps: 0:00 - Hello 0:13 - Intro and discussion of current setup 3:08 - Full setup 7:18 - Performance Tests 10:07 - Summary and Initial thoughts
Mark Louie Adame Good advice! That’s exactly what I did in resolving my son’s issue (see my previous reply). Check the status of the PC’s WiFi adapter and verify the gateway address.
Hi I'm completely new to this , I have virgin 500mb kids do a lot of gaming but are constantly kicked out playing on wifi. I got 30 foot Ethernet cables made up that I have to run down the stairs to connect to the modem. If I buy these do I just connect one to the main modem and the others to the likes of Ethernet cable in playstation, Xbox etc? Or do I have to have them split ? Forgive me Im just not sure about any of this , thank you
@@ger-lz4mjalot of new mesh systems have satellite (points) with a single available engender port so you can connect a gaming console directly to the mesh point. Usually a minimum of 2 points is required. One (main router) installed directly into your modem.
@@landonbaileytech do you know what the difference is between the google wifi and the google nest wifi? I know the nest wifi is newer, but was not sure if there are any significant improvements with the nest wifi.
Thank for this video. We have the same setup. 2 storey with a basement. I hope it works well here in the Philippines since we don't use drywalls. All house here are made with cinder blocks concrete.
If you were issued a Wireless Gateway (modem and router in one unit), you need to bridge the device as only a modem and then only use the #1 Ethernet port to the first mesh WiFi point. This avoids double NAT problems.
I recently installed four Google wifi routers in my 2800 sq ft home. The main router is in the basement before my network switch. I put access points on my first and second floor that are hardwired to the switch. I put another one elsewhere on my first floor wirelessly connected. The mesh test shows my hardwired access points have >525Mbps connection speed with the main router. The wireless access point has about a 100Mbps connection speed with the main router. The wifi service in the house has been very stable since I set this up. It replaced a much flakier prior setup with a mac airport extreme as my second floor access point and a netgear wireless access point on my first. I got this 4 google wifi router kit from Costco for around $200.
YES!!! You know my pain! You are speaking to my soul! I have a 2 storey home. My Nighthawk R7000 is at the lower floor and I have an extender on the top floor. I have to keep switching. Since my home is also long, the living room gets really poor connection. I have been considering using the Google Wifi mesh option which was recommended by a IT company after spending 300 bucks in consultation.
Seems like people don't realize Wifi extenders work in half-duplex meaning they cannot send and receive information simultaneously and therefore your Wifi speed is halved of what the main Wifi router broadcasts.
Been toying with the idea of this for a while, single floor house, 2800 square feet but I like overkill and great coverage all around. This will be exactly what I need, especially out by the pool, very slow out there! thanks for the review bro
What is the speed you hired (original from the network - tested with the cable connected onto the Google Wifi Router) so i can compare with the performance of mine?
Hi Lando, I just purchased the new version of Google WIFI, made the error of purchasing the points separately from the router. BUt It came out to about the same price anyways. Setup looks quite simple, looking forward to next week and setting it up in my condo/ Old building concrete construction lots of drops in a 1100 sqft unit Yves
I have the same router (Netgear Nighthawk R7000 wireless router) you just replaced. I too feel it is underperforming and weak in the basement as the router is on the 2nd floor which is the inverse of your situation. I really like your approach to videos. You keep it on point and communicate with your dry humor that I dig. :)
When you try on the Main Floor and you only got ~50Mbps because you were still connected to Top Floor (notice the wifi signal on your phone is not full). It was not the case when you test on Top Floor and Basement, your wifi signal is full means you were connected to the right Wifi Point.
He’s right. I set these up for a living and when I’m testing at each point I disconnect and reconnect to WiFi near the point I’m trying to test, and that usually forces it. It usually takes a couple minutes for it to swap over, but they still work really well. There’s better products out there but these work for most people and they’re easy to set up.
Even when you put a mesh system in you have to consider what is between the routers you'd be surprised what can actually slow them down example a TV in between them can slow it down.
Great review and appreciate the speed test. I've been trying to decide if this was worth it for the last couple weeks and this has helped me cement my decision. Going to get it today! Keep up the great work.
Just watching a few videos before I hook mine up. Switching from the rental Xfinity combo to a netgear modem and the google set up. My place isnt that big. Roughly 1300sq feet upstairs with a 1300 square foot 3 bay garage down stairs. My wifi cameras in the garage seem to loose signal once ever few hours. I sure hope for $400 that all will work well. I have 4 cameras inside and plan on another 3 or 4 outside. I can put a router base within 10 feet of my problems. Wish me luck.
Nice review. I've had the Google Wifi mesh setup in my 2 story home with similar modem setup in the basement and it works great. I can get speeds up to 400mbs on the top floor.
We have a 3 story building with modem on 2nd floor. What concerns me is the two room apart rule for placing components? Signal travels through floors and walls ok? Only one component per floor.
@@vincebrocato7549 have not had a problem across any of my 3 floors. Finished basement, 1st and 2nd floor. I have 25 devices connected to my network at all times between smart home devices, garage door opener, tablets, Alexas, laptops, smart TV, etc etc. Never had a problem. I use Fios 1GB service.
My 2 points don’t work at all. I got the initial one working at the modem with the Ethernet cord hooked up. That one is solid white. But when I try and hook up my points they do not connect. What am I doing wrong
Hi, I just bought the same system. I want to replace the cable company's Eero pieces. Do I need to change my IP address or anything else before setting up the Google mesh?
Thank you. This helps me a lot I was planning to have a long wire connected to my modem router to another router to get signal. This could save me and get rid of the messy wires.
I'm confused by something. Your Nighthawk supply was coaxial. Is there a coax input on the Google point? If not, how does the incoming service connect to the Google point? Thanks.
no the Nighthawk is ethernet. My cable model is coax from the line outside. Ethernet out from the modem to ethernet in on the Nighthawk, and same on the Google access point
One comment on your old setup, you mentioned that the extender was on the tip floor and I think that may have been the reason for the poor performance. The extender should have been on the main floor, to be able to receive good signal from the router in the basement. The top floor would have been ok as the extender would have been only one floor away.
Get a 10-15metre long cat7 or cat8 ethernet cable and sit your modem on the middle floor, still set your google wifis up but i dont see the big deal of having modem where you got it
Greetings from Ottawa. NIce review. I'm about to pull the trigger on this setup for my 3 storey home. My modem is on the main floor (rogers ignite). Hoping to get a better signal on the top floor, especially in my office which is the furthest point from the modem.
How's it holding up now? Is it worth it now? I only ask because I recently found out about this. I game alot, I have 2 Xbox Ones, tons of video streaming from RUclips to Amazon 4k sticks, 2 to be exact. Not always running at the same time though. Thanks again for the help. Awesome video
@@landonbaileytech thanks for the reply and I don't think I'll be getting this since I need to open up the NAT type because of my gaming, which sucks because I really wanted it
On the speed test on the middle floor, I think a couple of things might have been causing it. Did you make sure your phone was connecting to the closest wifi puck? Wonder if it might have been attaching to one on another floor. I know the Eero app will show you which satellite a device is attached to, does Google do the same? Also, I wonder if you might have been attached to the 2.4 GHz band instead of 5 GHz - that would explain the slower speed also. Those lower numbers you got on the middle test are typical of what I get with a 2.4 GHz connection.
Great video! I am considering purchasing Google Wifi and this video helped me make a decision! Just to confirm the 3 spots have leveled out as far as similar speeds correct?
thanks! ya it's been great on all 3 spots. someone pointed out, during my test, there'a chance I wasn't actively connected to the Point I was closest to. that may have caused the speed drop
One floor house, altough, My ring camera in the garage has a low signal. I was thinking on adding one of this mesh systems, 1 in a bedroom, 1 in the garage. Question: i didn't noticed on the video, a new EThernet cable should be added from the Router to Point 1? Leaving the old cable plugged in from the modem to the router?
I've just had my house rewired. I have cat6 ports in all my rooms. Can I get this system and plug them directly into the cat6 ports to help boost the speed/signal? I was considering getting a WiFi access point and fitting it in the attic but these look way better...
I've bought the mesh system, but all ports are filled in my older router? I don't know which ethernet wire is for the internet as its connected to a large panel of "things". We don't have cable tv, we don't have landline phones, we have only 2 wireless ipads, 2 iphones and one desktop computer running off WIFI. There are about 4 or 5 cords plugged in this router, the guys from Vexus set it up. I would like a dual plug for the ethernet cord but I don't know where to put it. No idea what goes to what ? Anyone out there understand this ?????
I have a modem with only 1 ethernet port and which is connected to the router. Do I need to change modems or is there a way to get another ethernet port?
Do you still get a lower speed on the 2nd floor? My theory is may be because it is bridged in between the two units (basement and top fl) so it slow because it has to communicate between units. BTW is this a dual bands? I know Linksys has the velop that comes with dual and triband. The triband has 1 - 2G and 2 - 5Gs. The 2nd 5G for the units to talk to each others and not using regular band and lower the speed.
While you were doing the testing did you connect to each network in every floor ? Or do you just connect to one and test the speeds anywhere in ur home ?
I have a question but I don’t know if you’re see this my family bought it and I don’t know if all the names for each port will show up on my phone when I try to connect the wifi
@@landonbaileytech because I setup up all 3 and for each I put a number and I thought when I went upstairs on a different internet port name would pop up but just the first port name I set up pops up is that so post to happen
they act as one port to the internet. is that what you mean? the three access points join int he mesh, and the main access point connected to your router is the primary. when you say port, do you mean access point? port can mean many things.
So, I rent my internet equipment from my service provider (spectrum). My router and modem constantly go out and I have to reboot. I also stay in a 3 story townhome. Do I need need to buy my own modem and router and give theirs back, as well as buy this system to have better internet performance? So, I'd be being a lot of new equipment? 😔 Thanks for the review.
hey there! I rent my modem(router built-in)and set it to bridge mode. the Google wifi takes over from that point. this only replaces the wifi, but not your ISP modem
Does your Google wifi connect to the internet via a cable modem? Mine does and it works very well. However, i am unable to get the port forwarding to work. Set up of port forwarding in the Google app is easy, but it seems not to be passing through the cable modem to the internet. Any suggestions?
Nice review! Thinking of making the change as well...similar setup...about 5000 sq ft of finished space on 3 levels as well...was curious as do you think you have sufficient coverage with one “point” per level? Do you believe you would slow down performance? Website says it will support up to 5 points but not sure it’s needed....thanks!
I have a 2 storey house also and am planning to get the same set up. I have an existing netgear range extender in my garage mainly for my exterior security camera. Would it still be necessary to keep the extender even after installing the Google wifi?
couldve been that ur still connected on the top flr mesh?? coz when connected they all have the same wifi name right? thats the only reasonable explanation i can think of lol been using the same mesh system but mesh strength greatly drops even if 2 mesh at 8ish feet apart :(
I cobbled together my own Google WiFi mesh network with 3 OnHubs. Newegg had a really good sale a couple of weeks ago. $59.99 per unit. You would’ve been better off going with Gigabit backhaul. What speed plan are you on?
Update: Since the Google WiFi app is being replaced by Google Home on 5/21/2021, I went ahead and updated. This turned out to be a terrible decision as Google Home is built for the throughput of the Google Nest WiFi which nodes have no LAN port. So, I have lost Ethernet backhaul support and signal strength. I will now be replacing my satellites with traditional routers to be used as APs.
We have a 3 story building with modem on 2nd floor. What concerns me is the two room apart rule for placing components? Signal travels through floors and walls ok? Only one component per floor. Can you add additional components beyond 3 that comes with system?
Lando27Music Don’t forget band steering (which you cannot control on Google Wifi). If it decided to give you 2.4 over 5 G you could see those odd differences. I have one and it happens from time to time but is never an always thing. On average the speeds are great. But now and again you get a 2.4 signal assigned which can limit theoretical throughout
Great set up and review! Google store has the 3 pack refurbished and with full warranty for under 200 USD, thanks for helping me with my decision. My home is similarly set up like yours.
Lando27Tech Cool! Just ordered a 3 pack after watching your video. Thank you so much for making a great video of your experience. We have a ranch style home with full basement and our ISP router just can’t handle running stable WiFi. So I’m hoping with adding these, our WiFi quality will improve.
Thx - I have 3 set up in a 2 story house but what if I wanted a "wired" connection to one of my rooms. Can I buy another Google router and use as a wifi bridge? I don't want to run CAT5 cable to the upstairs. Thx
im sorry ik im late but my parents have there wifi and router in there room so i cant gut much in my room if i get this can i use this in my room while they still have there old wifi router in theres ?
I just replaced my two TPlink onhub mesh network with a two pack of these. I need an interim solution until I update my whole ecosystem to wifi 6e because google really wants to kill onhub. 🤷🏻 Does anyone know how long the google wifi units will be supported?
When the first point asks for a password, is it the same password as my ISP modem password, or do I have to create a different password for the Google Mesh WiFi?
Hi , thank you for the vid, really helpful for what i wanted to do. I think you mentioned you live in CA rather US in other video, does the google mesh wifi system (US Version) works well in CA?
Hi there, I am planning on getting just one device for my room, but the router is in another room. Can it connect wirelessly to my router, if it's just 1 device? Or I have to connect it with the ethernet cable to my router? Thanks
So I'm wondering if you are confusing the terms Router and Modem. The model is what your internet connects to, and then you may have a router to share your WIFI. Some modems have a built in router as well. This system is only a router, so it has to be hardwired to my modem. I hope that helps.
Thanks for the video. I just bought a 4 pack from Costco last week when they were $30 off the regular price of $300. Not sure if that is available in Canada or not. BTW, although I live in a suburb of Seattle now I grew up close to Metcalfe, about 20 miles south of Ottawa. All of my family is still in the Ottawa area.
Lando27Tech About a week into the new Google mesh it seems nearly glitch free. I give it a thumbs up. The setup was not straight forward. I didn’t like the position of the second unit so I unplugged it while it was installing. That blew the mind of the install app. I muddled my way through adding the last 3 satellites individually (fairly painful, including removing the one satellite I had successfully installed). Now that it has been up for over a week it mostly just works. I have not reset a single unit yet. The only possible hiccup may be moving a connected device around the house. I have terrible Internet with Frontier so I can’t target my mesh system, but I do get momentary ‘no service’ messages as I walk across the house with my iPad connected to the Internet. So far this is the only solution that has worked for me and I’m in for $270 plus tax in 4500 sq ft plus the extension into the yard.
Hi can someone explain how the add on points are connected? Do they connect directly to the modem or via a router/switch that's connected to the modem?
My issue is with the upload speed. If I connect to the fios modem via its proprietary wifi I get the same speed at the device as I do from the router to the service. If I use my google wifi, it throttles the the speed at the device 75% from the router. The slow upload speed makes streaming music from HiRes sites like qubuz almost impossible.
the slow down you saw for your first floor was because you stood next to the wifi node. wifi looks like a donut where the signal is weaker towards the actual access point.
I have 6 of these google wifi points. I have a ranch on a basement with the main one (router) in my kitchen on main floor. My house is 4,000sq feet and my connection stinks! I pay for 100mbps and I get 40 even right next to it. If I connect to my old router then I get 100 speed. Any thoughts?
that's pretty much on par with what I get with mine. I'm on a 1Gbps connection and the most I'm seeing right now is close to 400Mbps. Also depends on the antenna in the particular device and what it supports
@@landonbaileytech so why does the google wifi seem so slow in comparison? I would gladly use my old router, but it can’t reach my basement whatsoever. I tried some other netgear booster and they just could reach well enough. Not sure if I should up my speed or change boosters
from a Google search: In a mesh network, every link, or “hop,” between routers will decrease the bandwidth by half. This happens because wireless links can only do one thing at a time - transmit or receive. In a long “chain” of mesh links, this results in a very slow connection from end to end. ... Problem 2: Many hops increases the latency.
@@landonbaileytech I think I have too many. Do you know if you HAVE to have them connect to a google point as the router? Can they just connect to my current router?
Good video! Thanks. Very curious why the middle floor had worse performance than the top floor! I just helped my son with some issues that he discovered after installing Google Wifi. He has had a NAS plugged into his FIOS cable modem/router, and he added a Google Wifi mesh network. Since the Google Wifi has its own DHCP server, apparently, the devices on the Google Wifi network cannot see the NAS, whose IP address is assigned by the DHCP server in the FIOS box. We solved that problem by plugging the NAS ethernet into the primary Google Wifi point (there's one (1) LAN ethernet connector). Seems there should have been a way for Google Wifi to use the DHCP server in the FIOS cable modem/router, but this solution worked. So there's a gotcha with Google Wifi but with a solution. If we needed more than one ethernet device, we could connect a switch to the Google Wifi primary point and connect the NAS and other ethernet devices into the switch.
@@landonbaileytech - so it didn't switch you automatically that time ? But it does now, and you're seeing the higher speed tests on all 3 floors ? Thanks, great review !
@@landonbaileytech I believe I already figured that they don't have to be plugged in directly to the wall outlet and that a surge protector can be used. The way they made it sound on the internet was that they had to be DIRECTLY plugged into the outlet. That is what I couldn't understand. Even them mentioning that it has to be plugged into a wall outlet is confusing because if it has a plug you would already know that. So I was taking it like you couldn't use a surge protector, but you can.
I have been using this system with 3 pods for many months without problems. However, I tried adding a fourth pod recently to extend the range further into the garden and the system simply refused to make a connection with the new pod, even if placed it right next to the main one that is wired into the modem. In the end I sent it back to Amazon as no-one could help me resolve the problem. It seems that I am far from the only person who has had this problem. The only thing I didn't try was to reset the whole system but was worried it might throw a complete spanner in the works. I would like to try again but without a solution I fear I am stuck with the 3 pods I already have. If anyone knows of a solution please let me know.
Have you used Google's Wifi?
Google Wifi:
geni.us/GoogleAc1200
Google Nest:
geni.us/GoogleAc2200
Netgear Nighthawk:
geni.us/Nighthawk
Timestamps:
0:00 - Hello
0:13 - Intro and discussion of current setup
3:08 - Full setup
7:18 - Performance Tests
10:07 - Summary and Initial thoughts
You did not check if you are connected on main floor thats why you only get 50+. Check on your device if you are connected to main floor meshed wifi.
Mark Louie Adame Good advice! That’s exactly what I did in resolving my son’s issue (see my previous reply). Check the status of the PC’s WiFi adapter and verify the gateway address.
The best narration I have heard in my 15 years with RUclips. No music. no cheese intro no delusions of being a TV narrator. PLEASE dont change. 😁
cheers!
instablaster.
Hi I'm completely new to this , I have virgin 500mb kids do a lot of gaming but are constantly kicked out playing on wifi. I got 30 foot Ethernet cables made up that I have to run down the stairs to connect to the modem. If I buy these do I just connect one to the main modem and the others to the likes of Ethernet cable in playstation, Xbox etc? Or do I have to have them split ? Forgive me Im just not sure about any of this , thank you
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@@ger-lz4mjalot of new mesh systems have satellite (points) with a single available engender port so you can connect a gaming console directly to the mesh point. Usually a minimum of 2 points is required. One (main router) installed directly into your modem.
I have been waiting for this type of review. I too live on two floors and this real world test is awesome. Sold me on buying the Google Nest Wifi
glad it helped!
@@landonbaileytech do you know what the difference is between the google wifi and the google nest wifi? I know the nest wifi is newer, but was not sure if there are any significant improvements with the nest wifi.
@@ronin120 I haven't looked at the specs so. It is definitely the replacement for the Google Wifi.
Thank for this video. We have the same setup. 2 storey with a basement. I hope it works well here in the Philippines since we don't use drywalls. All house here are made with cinder blocks concrete.
ah best of luck!
If you were issued a Wireless Gateway (modem and router in one unit), you need to bridge the device as only a modem and then only use the #1 Ethernet port to the first mesh WiFi point. This avoids double NAT problems.
Normally I would agree, but my new ISP doesn’t use in the home modems. I still run into double NAT errors.
thanks for the tips about your setup
I wish that I had internet that was as fast as this! Love your review - thanks
Thanks for watching!
Wow! best demo I came across and highly informative for the person who didn't even know what google wifi mesh is!
Great to hear!
I recently installed four Google wifi routers in my 2800 sq ft home. The main router is in the basement before my network switch.
I put access points on my first and second floor that are hardwired to the switch.
I put another one elsewhere on my first floor wirelessly connected.
The mesh test shows my hardwired access points have >525Mbps connection speed with the main router.
The wireless access point has about a 100Mbps connection speed with the main router.
The wifi service in the house has been very stable since I set this up. It replaced a much flakier prior setup with a mac airport extreme as my second floor access point and a netgear wireless access point on my first.
I got this 4 google wifi router kit from Costco for around $200.
thanks for sharing
Great video, what internet speeds are you paying for from your ISP?
Would like to see if/how much youre losing
I have 1Gbps up and 30Mbps down
Very detailed it’s great seeing another pro at work learn your stuff folks it will save u time and money
Thanks 👍
Very comprehensive video. Thanks for taking the time to shoot and upload this video!
cheers!
YES!!! You know my pain! You are speaking to my soul! I have a 2 storey home. My Nighthawk R7000 is at the lower floor and I have an extender on the top floor. I have to keep switching. Since my home is also long, the living room gets really poor connection. I have been considering using the Google Wifi mesh option which was recommended by a IT company after spending 300 bucks in consultation.
Glad I could help!
Seems like people don't realize Wifi extenders work in half-duplex meaning they cannot send and receive information simultaneously and therefore your Wifi speed is halved of what the main Wifi router broadcasts.
Been toying with the idea of this for a while, single floor house, 2800 square feet but I like overkill and great coverage all around. This will be exactly what I need, especially out by the pool, very slow out there! thanks for the review bro
Glad it was helpful!
What is the speed you hired (original from the network - tested with the cable connected onto the Google Wifi Router) so i can compare with the performance of mine?
1 Gbps I believe
Hi Lando, I just purchased the new version of Google WIFI, made the error of purchasing the points separately from the router. BUt It came out to about the same price anyways. Setup looks quite simple, looking forward to next week and setting it up in my condo/ Old building concrete construction lots of drops in a 1100 sqft unit Yves
I have the same router (Netgear Nighthawk R7000 wireless router) you just replaced. I too feel it is underperforming and weak in the basement as the router is on the 2nd floor which is the inverse of your situation. I really like your approach to videos. You keep it on point and communicate with your dry humor that I dig. :)
When you try on the Main Floor and you only got ~50Mbps because you were still connected to Top Floor (notice the wifi signal on your phone is not full). It was not the case when you test on Top Floor and Basement, your wifi signal is full means you were connected to the right Wifi Point.
good eye!
He’s right. I set these up for a living and when I’m testing at each point I disconnect and reconnect to WiFi near the point I’m trying to test, and that usually forces it. It usually takes a couple minutes for it to swap over, but they still work really well. There’s better products out there but these work for most people and they’re easy to set up.
Even when you put a mesh system in you have to consider what is between the routers you'd be surprised what can actually slow them down example a TV in between them can slow it down.
Great review and appreciate the speed test. I've been trying to decide if this was worth it for the last couple weeks and this has helped me cement my decision. Going to get it today! Keep up the great work.
hey thanks! it's been solid. no issues to report.
Just watching a few videos before I hook mine up. Switching from the rental Xfinity combo to a netgear modem and the google set up. My place isnt that big. Roughly 1300sq feet upstairs with a 1300 square foot 3 bay garage down stairs. My wifi cameras in the garage seem to loose signal once ever few hours. I sure hope for $400 that all will work well. I have 4 cameras inside and plan on another 3 or 4 outside. I can put a router base within 10 feet of my problems. Wish me luck.
you installing the 3 pack as well? good luck!
that was about as easy as anything ive ever done with the app. took all of about 20 min total and seems to be working great
@@shawng7902 that was my experience too. really great and performance has been solid since the video was released
Great video! Also can I use one wifi point in my room and into the plug which is away from my router or do I need 2 as like a start and a finish setup
you need 1 hardwired to the modem. then from there you can add more access points to the mesh
Nice review. I've had the Google Wifi mesh setup in my 2 story home with similar modem setup in the basement and it works great. I can get speeds up to 400mbs on the top floor.
We have a 3 story building with modem on 2nd floor. What concerns me is the two room apart rule for placing components? Signal travels through floors and walls ok? Only one component per floor.
@@vincebrocato7549 have not had a problem across any of my 3 floors. Finished basement, 1st and 2nd floor. I have 25 devices connected to my network at all times between smart home devices, garage door opener, tablets, Alexas, laptops, smart TV, etc etc. Never had a problem. I use Fios 1GB service.
My 2 points don’t work at all. I got the initial one working at the modem with the Ethernet cord hooked up. That one is solid white. But when I try and hook up my points they do not connect. What am I doing wrong
Hi, I just bought the same system. I want to replace the cable company's Eero pieces. Do I need to change my IP address or anything else before setting up the Google mesh?
I can't say. I have mine in bridge mode from my ISP's router.
Thank you. This helps me a lot I was planning to have a long wire connected to my modem router to another router to get signal. This could save me and get rid of the messy wires.
Glad it helped
I'm confused by something. Your Nighthawk supply was coaxial. Is there a coax input on the Google point? If not, how does the incoming service connect to the Google point? Thanks.
no the Nighthawk is ethernet. My cable model is coax from the line outside. Ethernet out from the modem to ethernet in on the Nighthawk, and same on the Google access point
@@landonbaileytech Got it. Thanks. I didn't realize you'd left the Nighthawk there to act as a modem.
Can you still plug a device into the google mesh like you can with a wireless router? So that device doesn't need to be connected to the wifi.
yes
One comment on your old setup, you mentioned that the extender was on the tip floor and I think that may have been the reason for the poor performance. The extender should have been on the main floor, to be able to receive good signal from the router in the basement. The top floor would have been ok as the extender would have been only one floor away.
I tried both. the extender placed on the main floor had dead spots on the top floor
Yep I was undecided and that helped me thanks, I have 100 mbps fiber service and a netgear ext's down stare, you helped me solve my problem. 👊🏽
glad it helped! the Ext idea is neat, just doesn't work well. this works so much better.
Get a 10-15metre long cat7 or cat8 ethernet cable and sit your modem on the middle floor, still set your google wifis up but i dont see the big deal of having modem where you got it
What is the speed you are getting and paying for from the internet service provider? Is it 200 or 300 MBPS?
1gigabit
Greetings from Ottawa. NIce review. I'm about to pull the trigger on this setup for my 3 storey home. My modem is on the main floor (rogers ignite). Hoping to get a better signal on the top floor, especially in my office which is the furthest point from the modem.
ya you should have a better signal being on the main floor. cheers!
How's it holding up now? Is it worth it now? I only ask because I recently found out about this. I game alot, I have 2 Xbox Ones, tons of video streaming from RUclips to Amazon 4k sticks, 2 to be exact. Not always running at the same time though. Thanks again for the help. Awesome video
hey there! check out my two recent videos. they are follow ups
@@landonbaileytech thanks for the reply and I don't think I'll be getting this since I need to open up the NAT type because of my gaming, which sucks because I really wanted it
Ah ya! Seems to be locked down
On the speed test on the middle floor, I think a couple of things might have been causing it. Did you make sure your phone was connecting to the closest wifi puck? Wonder if it might have been attaching to one on another floor. I know the Eero app will show you which satellite a device is attached to, does Google do the same? Also, I wonder if you might have been attached to the 2.4 GHz band instead of 5 GHz - that would explain the slower speed also. Those lower numbers you got on the middle test are typical of what I get with a 2.4 GHz connection.
I must have been connected to another access point. the issue never happened again
Why not get a nighthawk extender so you're not creating a different network? That wall plug extender sucks
I don't believe it existed at the time
I’ve installed a mesh system and it is fabulous! I use it with Google Fiber.
I know one of these need to be connected via Ethernet cord, but do the extensions need to be connected via Ethernet cord as well?
no
Great video! I am considering purchasing Google Wifi and this video helped me make a decision! Just to confirm the 3 spots have leveled out as far as similar speeds correct?
thanks! ya it's been great on all 3 spots. someone pointed out, during my test, there'a chance I wasn't actively connected to the Point I was closest to. that may have caused the speed drop
Lando27Tech But it is supposed to do that automatically
They still worth buying today ? Looking for a cheap way to extend using Xfinity router
I still use this setup to this day and it works great
One floor house, altough, My ring camera in the garage has a low signal. I was thinking on adding one of this mesh systems, 1 in a bedroom, 1 in the garage.
Question: i didn't noticed on the video, a new EThernet cable should be added from the Router to Point 1? Leaving the old cable plugged in from the modem to the router?
Landon .....must get the hockey night tee for my son. Where can I purchase one? Oh and great tutorial here you make it simple ☝🏻
I think I got the shirt at Winners
Any follow up video on why the main floor was getting bad service?
I think I was connected to another access point
Nice video, Did you remove the NETGEAR extender?
Yes I did, and I sold the Nighthawk router
I've just had my house rewired. I have cat6 ports in all my rooms. Can I get this system and plug them directly into the cat6 ports to help boost the speed/signal? I was considering getting a WiFi access point and fitting it in the attic but these look way better...
I haven't done that myself so I can't say for sure. it's worth trying it out though.
Okay no worries. I'll do a wee bit more research. Cheers though.
My cable modem is wireless. Do I turn off its WiFi since this is a different SSID?
Yes I turned mine off.
So do u connect to the new wifi that was set up On the google mesh or remain under the original one
I don't have the nighthawk anymore if that's what you mean
What if i connected one mesh pod to the router then connect the second one to the first mesh pod directly via Ethernet cord? Will that be good too?
So you disconnect the old router entirely? Meaning you don't use it whatsoever? I'm in the EXACT position as you were. Basement and two floors above.
ya exactly. these access points are routers and you get rid of the old one.
I've bought the mesh system, but all ports are filled in my older router? I don't know which ethernet wire is for the internet as its connected to a large panel of "things". We don't have cable tv, we don't have landline phones, we have only 2 wireless ipads, 2 iphones and one desktop computer running off WIFI.
There are about 4 or 5 cords plugged in this router, the guys from Vexus set it up. I would like a dual plug for the ethernet cord but I don't know where to put it. No idea what goes to what ?
Anyone out there understand this ?????
check out this video ruclips.net/video/ioAJ2CQFuNg/видео.html
hope that helps
I have a modem with only 1 ethernet port and which is connected to the router. Do I need to change modems or is there a way to get another ethernet port?
I'm not sure what you're trying to do. maybe watch this video too ruclips.net/video/ioAJ2CQFuNg/видео.html
Do you still get a lower speed on the 2nd floor? My theory is may be because it is bridged in between the two units (basement and top fl) so it slow because it has to communicate between units. BTW is this a dual bands? I know Linksys has the velop that comes with dual and triband. The triband has 1 - 2G and 2 - 5Gs. The 2nd 5G for the units to talk to each others and not using regular band and lower the speed.
no it was just the one test
Yeah that’s coz he was still connected to the radio on the top floor. Must be the points were too close to each other.
2:05 that condition is called sticky client.
While you were doing the testing did you connect to each network in every floor ? Or do you just connect to one and test the speeds anywhere in ur home ?
my memory is good, but I can't recall over a year ago what was happening :)
I have a question but I don’t know if you’re see this my family bought it and I don’t know if all the names for each port will show up on my phone when I try to connect the wifi
hey there! what do you mean ‘all the names for each port’?
@@landonbaileytech ya will all ports show up on the internet with each different names I put or will the first port name show up for all
@@landonbaileytech because I setup up all 3 and for each I put a number and I thought when I went upstairs on a different internet port name would pop up but just the first port name I set up pops up is that so post to happen
they act as one port to the internet. is that what you mean? the three access points join int he mesh, and the main access point connected to your router is the primary. when you say port, do you mean access point? port can mean many things.
@@landonbaileytech thank you ya I was confused I didn’t know they all act as one that’s what I was confused about thanks for the help
So, I rent my internet equipment from my service provider (spectrum). My router and modem constantly go out and I have to reboot. I also stay in a 3 story townhome. Do I need need to buy my own modem and router and give theirs back, as well as buy this system to have better internet performance? So, I'd be being a lot of new equipment? 😔
Thanks for the review.
hey there! I rent my modem(router built-in)and set it to bridge mode. the Google wifi takes over from that point. this only replaces the wifi, but not your ISP modem
Does your Google wifi connect to the internet via a cable modem? Mine does and it works very well. However, i am unable to get the port forwarding to work. Set up of port forwarding in the Google app is easy, but it seems not to be passing through the cable modem to the internet. Any suggestions?
Yes I use a cable modem for internet. I haven't tried any port forwarding though.
@@landonbaileytech OK, thanks much for the reply. I will continue to research.
Perhaps it had to do with the order of installation? The slower one was the last one.
no I think it was stuck on the wrong access point
so can i let my isp install a coax outlet on the second floor, place my modem and router there and connect a mesh from the second floor to the first?
ya for sure
Nice review! Thinking of making the change as well...similar setup...about 5000 sq ft of finished space on 3 levels as well...was curious as do you think you have sufficient coverage with one “point” per level? Do you believe you would slow down performance? Website says it will support up to 5 points but not sure it’s needed....thanks!
Hey there! Probably depends on the number of obstructions in your house (mainly walls). Try 3, and you can always add more which is the great thing.
Great video. Seeing as it's been several months since this video went up, how is the google wifi holding up?
hey thanks! it's held up great. no complaints
@@landonbaileytech but how come the second floor has slow speeds?
I have a 2 storey house also and am planning to get the same set up. I have an existing netgear range extender in my garage mainly for my exterior security camera. Would it still be necessary to keep the extender even after installing the Google wifi?
you shouldn't need it anymore
Muchas gracias. Tu video me ayudó a conectar mis google Wifi.
¡encantado de ayudar! (Traductor de google)
couldve been that ur still connected on the top flr mesh?? coz when connected they all have the same wifi name right? thats the only reasonable explanation i can think of lol been using the same mesh system but mesh strength greatly drops even if 2 mesh at 8ish feet apart :(
ya very likely!
When shifting from one google nest to another whether network dropwill be there or it will be continue
I have not had a drop
Do you need the router or just 1 of the google mesh hotspots? if just doing 1 home.
Each of these access points is also a router. It's built into each.
I cobbled together my own Google WiFi mesh network with 3 OnHubs. Newegg had a really good sale a couple of weeks ago. $59.99 per unit.
You would’ve been better off going with Gigabit backhaul.
What speed plan are you on?
hey cool! I'm on a 1 gig plan
Update: Since the Google WiFi app is being replaced by Google Home on 5/21/2021, I went ahead and updated. This turned out to be a terrible decision as Google Home is built for the throughput of the Google Nest WiFi which nodes have no LAN port. So, I have lost Ethernet backhaul support and signal strength.
I will now be replacing my satellites with traditional routers to be used as APs.
So, the points are connected wirelessly, no ethernet cable between the points? Thanks!
correct!
We have a 3 story building with modem on 2nd floor. What concerns me is the two room apart rule for placing components? Signal travels through floors and walls ok? Only one component per floor. Can you add additional components beyond 3 that comes with system?
ya I added a 4th access point. ruclips.net/video/w_Cb-7cHiNY/видео.html
I have a question, does this create a second network or does it just run off the existing network?
hey there! it's one network. it replaces the existing network I had. I sold the Nighthawk soon after
@@landonbaileytech Thanks for clarifying!
Any update as to the main floor performance? Surprising the results were so varied. Did you find a fix? Moving the main floor puck location?
Jordan Lugar most recent test in the same spot I got 181 Mbps, without moving any devices. Must have been signal interference. So it’s good! :)
Lando27Music Don’t forget band steering (which you cannot control on Google Wifi). If it decided to give you 2.4 over 5 G you could see those odd differences. I have one and it happens from time to time but is never an always thing. On average the speeds are great. But now and again you get a 2.4 signal assigned which can limit theoretical throughout
Great set up and review! Google store has the 3 pack refurbished and with full warranty for under 200 USD, thanks for helping me with my decision. My home is similarly set up like yours.
thanks for the feedback! ya it's been a great setup since I installed it. no complaints
Lando27Tech I am curious what your thoughts are now 3 months after using the google WiFi.
@@GeoffreyMoran It's been solid. No outages or slowness that I've experienced. Very happy with the swtichover
Lando27Tech Cool! Just ordered a 3 pack after watching your video. Thank you so much for making a great video of your experience. We have a ranch style home with full basement and our ISP router just can’t handle running stable WiFi. So I’m hoping with adding these, our WiFi quality will improve.
Geoff, what’s your thoughts on it?
Thx - I have 3 set up in a 2 story house but what if I wanted a "wired" connection to one of my rooms. Can I buy another Google router and use as a wifi bridge? I don't want to run CAT5 cable to the upstairs. Thx
I don't know. let me know if you end up trying it
im sorry ik im late but my parents have there wifi and router in there room so i cant gut much in my room if i get this can i use this in my room while they still have there old wifi router in theres ?
this is a replacement for the existing router.
Great Video one question do we need Ethernet on all locations
no just the main access point. the other access points connect to the main and create the wireless mesh network.
how do you know that all nodes is communicating each other and enough wifi strength from node to another?
through the Google Wifi App. it has some testing options
I just replaced my two TPlink onhub mesh network with a two pack of these. I need an interim solution until I update my whole ecosystem to wifi 6e because google really wants to kill onhub. 🤷🏻 Does anyone know how long the google wifi units will be supported?
Main Floor Test.. You were still connected to The Third Floor Router.. I could see There Was One Bar Down In Wifi Connection.. thas why...
I'm pretty sure that's what happened 👍😊
When the first point asks for a password, is it the same password as my ISP modem password, or do I have to create a different password for the Google Mesh WiFi?
you can probably choose whatever password you'd like
Hi , thank you for the vid, really helpful for what i wanted to do. I think you mentioned you live in CA rather US in other video, does the google mesh wifi system (US Version) works well in CA?
ya I'm in Canada. I don't know that there's a difference between a CA and USA model. Would assume the work the same
do you use fiber optics or DSL or what kind of internet do you exactly use
hey there, it’s coax cable internet.
@@landonbaileytech what is this type of internet I only knew there was normal wifi DSL fibre and 5g what is this technology ???
How are they holding now?
Still running solid to this day
Were you in Office Space ?
I'll check
Is a two story home uncommon there?
no
Hi there, I am planning on getting just one device for my room, but the router is in another room. Can it connect wirelessly to my router, if it's just 1 device? Or I have to connect it with the ethernet cable to my router? Thanks
So I'm wondering if you are confusing the terms Router and Modem. The model is what your internet connects to, and then you may have a router to share your WIFI. Some modems have a built in router as well. This system is only a router, so it has to be hardwired to my modem. I hope that helps.
Thanks for the video. I just bought a 4 pack from Costco last week when they were $30 off the regular price of $300. Not sure if that is available in Canada or not. BTW, although I live in a suburb of Seattle now I grew up close to Metcalfe, about 20 miles south of Ottawa. All of my family is still in the Ottawa area.
nice! they don't have the 4 pack at Costco here. I know Metcalfe cool!
Lando27Tech About a week into the new Google mesh it seems nearly glitch free. I give it a thumbs up. The setup was not straight forward. I didn’t like the position of the second unit so I unplugged it while it was installing. That blew the mind of the install app. I muddled my way through adding the last 3 satellites individually (fairly painful, including removing the one satellite I had successfully installed). Now that it has been up for over a week it mostly just works. I have not reset a single unit yet. The only possible hiccup may be moving a connected device around the house. I have terrible Internet with Frontier so I can’t target my mesh system, but I do get momentary ‘no service’ messages as I walk across the house with my iPad connected to the Internet. So far this is the only solution that has worked for me and I’m in for $270 plus tax in 4500 sq ft plus the extension into the yard.
Do I need to rename all the #SSID ? Does my devices connect automatically to the network when I chance rooms?
Not sure what you mean with the question about rename boxes. Devices automatically connect to the best access point when you change rooms.
@@landonbaileytech I meant Do I need to use different SSID for all the hubs?
No they all connect and use the same SSID. that's what makes it so easy
Hi can someone explain how the add on points are connected? Do they connect directly to the modem or via a router/switch that's connected to the modem?
There's a main point which is wired to the cable modem in my case. All other points connect wirelessly to the main point. hope that helps :)
Are all 3 devices the same???
hey there. yes all identical. so you can even add more access points if needed
My issue is with the upload speed. If I connect to the fios modem via its proprietary wifi I get the same speed at the device as I do from the router to the service. If I use my google wifi, it throttles the the speed at the device 75% from the router. The slow upload speed makes streaming music from HiRes sites like qubuz almost impossible.
that's common with a mesh system. it's a hit you take to ensure a solid connection
the slow down you saw for your first floor was because you stood next to the wifi node. wifi looks like a donut where the signal is weaker towards the actual access point.
I stood next to the top floor access point. I'm pretty sure while on the main floor, I was connected to the top floor access point still.
if i put one on the first floor, the other on the third floor and the other on the fifth floor, will it work ??
hey there! all depends on the distance and how many obstructions are in the way :)
Is the Ethernet cable in the basement is it attached to the Rogers modem or the nighthawk
Rogers modem. The nighthawk has been removed from the chain
I had to remove the third unit and now I want to reinstall it but the option to do so is not visible on the Google Wi-Fi Mesh app
I believe they migrated features to the Home app
I have 6 of these google wifi points. I have a ranch on a basement with the main one (router) in my kitchen on main floor. My house is 4,000sq feet and my connection stinks! I pay for 100mbps and I get 40 even right next to it. If I connect to my old router then I get 100 speed. Any thoughts?
that's pretty much on par with what I get with mine. I'm on a 1Gbps connection and the most I'm seeing right now is close to 400Mbps. Also depends on the antenna in the particular device and what it supports
@@landonbaileytech so why does the google wifi seem so slow in comparison? I would gladly use my old router, but it can’t reach my basement whatsoever. I tried some other netgear booster and they just could reach well enough. Not sure if I should up my speed or change boosters
from a Google search: In a mesh network, every link, or “hop,” between routers will decrease the bandwidth by half. This happens because wireless links can only do one thing at a time - transmit or receive. In a long “chain” of mesh links, this results in a very slow connection from end to end. ... Problem 2: Many hops increases the latency.
@@landonbaileytech great info thanks man. Sounds like I may have too many actually??
@@landonbaileytech I think I have too many. Do you know if you HAVE to have them connect to a google point as the router? Can they just connect to my current router?
Good video! Thanks. Very curious why the middle floor had worse performance than the top floor!
I just helped my son with some issues that he discovered after installing Google Wifi. He has had a NAS plugged into his FIOS cable modem/router, and he added a Google Wifi mesh network. Since the Google Wifi has its own DHCP server, apparently, the devices on the Google Wifi network cannot see the NAS, whose IP address is assigned by the DHCP server in the FIOS box. We solved that problem by plugging the NAS ethernet into the primary Google Wifi point (there's one (1) LAN ethernet connector). Seems there should have been a way for Google Wifi to use the DHCP server in the FIOS cable modem/router, but this solution worked. So there's a gotcha with Google Wifi but with a solution. If we needed more than one ethernet device, we could connect a switch to the Google Wifi primary point and connect the NAS and other ethernet devices into the switch.
I think I may have been connected to a different access point during that test. it was the only time it happened. it's been a great upgrade
Lando27Tech Ah, that’s a reasonable explanation. Thanks again for the video.
@@landonbaileytech - so it didn't switch you automatically that time ? But it does now, and you're seeing the higher speed tests on all 3 floors ? Thanks, great review !
ya seems so. been great since
You placed the main floor access point on top of an METAL stove. This surely blocked your signal.
Why didn't you pit the extender on the second floor??
the signal didn't extend throughout the whole upstairs. I tried multiple locations.
Do all units have to be plugged into a wall outlet?
yes they are need power. they don't work on magic! :)
@@landonbaileytech I believe I already figured that they don't have to be plugged in directly to the wall outlet and that a surge protector can be used. The way they made it sound on the internet was that they had to be DIRECTLY plugged into the outlet. That is what I couldn't understand. Even them mentioning that it has to be plugged into a wall outlet is confusing because if it has a plug you would already know that. So I was taking it like you couldn't use a surge protector, but you can.
@@jjverlingieri Yes it doesn't take much power it's a waste to plug it in the wall
Do the extenders/adapters have a ethernet port or only the router ?
they all have them
I have been using this system with 3 pods for many months without problems. However, I tried adding a fourth pod recently to extend the range further into the garden and the system simply refused to make a connection with the new pod, even if placed it right next to the main one that is wired into the modem. In the end I sent it back to Amazon as no-one could help me resolve the problem. It seems that I am far from the only person who has had this problem. The only thing I didn't try was to reset the whole system but was worried it might throw a complete spanner in the works. I would like to try again but without a solution I fear I am stuck with the 3 pods I already have. If anyone knows of a solution please let me know.
that's really weird. I wonder what the issue could be
I am dealing with the same issue. My wifi is located in my living room and my bedroom is on the second floor. My room is too pretty far.
hope this helps
Did you end up going back to your nighthawk .. or you are still using just the google mesh network ?
sold the Nighthawk. only google mesh since