It is a sad true that dress codes are slowly fading but if there's enough enthusiasts out there, they can throw parties and dinners with specific dress codes in mind for all the menswear geeks 🧑🏫🕵♂️
i wish i could be invited for one of those i'm pretty anti social overall living in my own bubble but would certainly invest time and budget for such an event! my daily clothing is a nice small wardrobe consisting of pieces that are promoted by the gentlemens gazette only dress trousers and dress shirts sport coats with waistcoats and fair isles and knitwear i'm washing it all with the hand to extend the lifetime of my clothing!
I have become interested in classic menswear over the past two years. I like the fact it's timeless and I love the look. I have adopted the idea of being a gentleman and find it suitable for my character. Personally, it has improved my manners, demeanour and posture. It is noticeable how society is becoming more casual. The one thing it does is draw your attention to people who are well dressed for an occasion. I have had compliments in the way I dress as I become accustomed to dress codes.
Absolutely not. There is nothing more annoying than going to what is expected to be an upscale restaurant and sitting across from someone wearing a tank top- actually just happened to me
No. Dress codes will always have a role in society at large in the long term. While our world has become much more casual in its attire, there will be those moments were dressing up will have a role in one's life.
Men's fashion has always been getting more casual. What we think of as suits today were originally lounge suits, which were meant to be casual clothing you wore in the home. When you went out, you wore a frock coat/tails and a top hat.
In the future, dress shirts and chinos/jeans will be seen as the super formal option (like suits today), and hoodies and college pants will be normal wear. What will be casual wear, I dread to even think
@@tj-co9goidk what you are talking about, shirts are already formal wear, the only occasion where i wear shirts is for formal occasions, because you wear shirts as a normal wear when you are at home?
Years back I had a chance to go to "The Magic Castle" near Hollwood CA. They have a dress code to have to follow or you don't get in. I had to (sorry) borrow a suit from my dad. I had so much fun that night, it turned out to be one of the best evenings out I ever had. Nothing wrong with dress codes in general but not for everything. I now enjoy getting "dressed up" but still enjoy my jeans and T-shirts.
If you are not the best dressed man in the room, then you better be one of the best dressed men in the room. The Gentleman's Gazette is the first place I go for inspiration, but I always look back to my Father who taught me by example how to dress.
True story. Last year I was invited to a friend's 50th birthday, for which her husband threw a big party at a golf course hall. The venue was changed almost at the last minute. On the later invitation, men were required to wear tuxedos. I don't own one, and to rent one was going to be very expensive, for which I was not wiling to spend that kind of money, so I went with a nice pair of slacks, matching shoes, shirt, tie and jacket. Would you believe that not one man was wearing a tuxedo that night? WOuldn't I have looked ridiculous and felt foolish for following a last minute whim? While I can understand if this were at an opera house, or some bigwig event, this party didn't warrant it. All men were well dressed. The pint being that, a tuxedo, or a dress code should make sense, and not become an unnecessary burden on the people attending.
It's no wonder no one wore dinner suits. With renting a dinner suit, you generally have to ship it to your home, or at least go through a process. Buying one requires finding the whole shebang, buying it, and ideally having it tailored. You'd pretty much need to own a dinner suit beforehand. Only way I can see last-minute black tie ensembles working is with a group of vintage lovers who all own a set.
thats a fault in the organisation of the party not the code,imagine if it were meant to be black tie but changed to casual and the host forgot to tell 2 couples, embarrassing but no fault of the code and as the latest invite 'required men to wear a tuxedo' if i were the host I would have felt disrespected that none of the men followed the requirement but still turned up. I am sorry but forgetting dress codes, but you seem to have little understanding of social ettiquete. whether Buckingham palace or the local burger joint, it isnt the venue that decides the dress code, its the host , whether the palace holds a party, dress code 1977 punk, or the local scout hut holds a black tie, its so below bad form to decide you know better than the host or that the venue isnt worthy of you following code. as for no tux to wear, i recently attended a black tie, on the way out i snagged my jacket, i changed into a black 2 piece suit, kept shirt,studs, bow, cummerbund etc, arrived at the event and made my apologies to the host and carried on, SOCIAL ETTIQUET.
One thing I actually miss about West Point and the Army is the banquets and balls. We would have receiving lines, formal toasts, etc. Most people don't go to a semi-formal or formal event once a year. One of my favorite memories is taking my soon-to-be spouse to a unit ball themed around Valentine's Day. It was very romantic.
I think there's a balance. A local steakhouse where I grew up was black tie after 9. Anytime before that you could wear whatever. Sometimes you'd go in and there'd be a weird mix of dress codes from people showing up before and after 9 being in the restaurant, but it mostly seemed to work fine.
Agree. There is a balance. My other pet peeve is people attending funerals and weddings dressed like the are going to work in the yard- at least wear a shirt with a collar
Dress codes are exclusionary by definition - they are a "code" used to exclude those, who don't know the code. Dress guidelines are a polar opposite - they guide people towards the expected way of dressing.
As someone who struggles with trying to understand unspoken rules, and what to wear, I appreciate dress codes. Especially where everyone has different ideas of what's appropriate, and it's really awkward if you show up to an event in a way that's much more formal or more casual than everyone else. Like if someone is wearing a tuxedo and someone else is wearing chino pants with a dress shirt, it can look like someone either couldn't afford the more formal wear, or someone didn't pay attention to the situation. I'm planning my wedding, and I personally like the idea of different variants of dress codes, like how garden party attire is like a themed version of semi-formal or cocktail attire, which allows for more freedom with colours and patterns. I like the different styles, colours, and variants of things, like some modern dress codes includes jumpsuits and suits for women, but it's hard to know what places allow which things. I plan to give examples on the wedding website of some outfits for a variety of comfort levels and wardrobes, as well as gender expressions as I have a couple relatives that prefer to dress in ways that are more androgynous, and I know not all women like to wear dresses.
My high school's homecoming and sweethearts dances have a "best dress" dress code. The only details it gives are "No t shirts or denim; tuxedo and formal wear highly discouraged" Last year I wore a black dress shirt and pants with a pink tie and silver pocket watch in my hip pocket. Then I discovered Gentlemen's Gazette and gained a sense of style. This year I wore a navy suit with a navy and black tie, gold collar bar and wristwatch, and cognac brogues.
I would certainly argue for the opposite. I think that dress codes should make a prominent come back. There are events and situations we find ourselves where I believe dressing a certain way is necessary and a matter of respect. My wedding will certainly be dark suits only. I’ll be wearing black tie of course so the men would be one step down from me.
@@PrincessNinja007 Can’t have mine outside even if I wanted to. Has to be in church. I like outside weddings though. If mine were outside then yes it would definitely be less formal. Something more geared towards hot weather but still classy. I’m saving all the fun outside stuff for the honeymoon though.
I agree that dress codes should make a prominent come back. It's about time, though really, imo, they should have never been disregarded to begin with.
I can't tell you how often I am commented on by complete total strangers and how attractive I look when I am in full suit when I go to work each day my work does not require me to use that but I dress because it makes me feel good and the comments I get are over and over and over and over and over how well I look and how nice that someone takes the time to look like well a gentleman.
in my books, dress codes will always be important! my weddings dress code is going to be black tie, and if anyone has any questions, I'd be more than happy to help them out
They're probably not coming back. Flattening of differences and distinction, deconstruction of social norms, scorn for tradition, viewing any restrictions on individual choice as oppressive, and the desire to tear down anything noble are all inherent to liberalism. Dress codes are inherently restrictive and hierarchical, and thus incompatible with the logic of liberalism in the long run. At this point, it's too far gone for them to ever come back. When a fine dining restaurant asks for business casual, people show up in sports team t-shirts, cargo shorts, and flip flops, and the restaurant says nothing. I'd love to ask people to dress up for my wedding, but even if I did they wouldn't do it. I'll be the only one wearing a suit while guests wear collared shirts with jeans. There's just no point trying to implement a dress code when the vast majority of people don't know what they mean, and don't own any outfits that would even be considered business casual.
I have worn my TheJacketMaker leather jacket between 3 and 7 times a week for two years now, and it’s still going strong. It’s a fantastic product for much less than off the rack jackets.
They make some of the finest Leather Jackets which are unique and perfectly styled. Some of the best on the market, it's actually very difficult to find good leather makers these days, a lot of leather coats and pants are made with inferior grades and often just look dumpy, wrinkly and are junk.
If dress codes die there will be no more basis on what is formal or not or appropriate for any occasion. Dressing up would be out of sense and we might as well walk around as a clowns. BTW Preston did you break or lose your Merkur razor?
No, it's still in my collection, though I've also been experimenting with offerings from Mühle and Henson Shaving--and of course, with letting things grow a bit from time to time (which I'm assuming was the impetus for your question). Thanks for watching! - Preston
As a Brit visiting North America, I find the relationship with dress codes very odd. I attended a wedding which was marked as "black tie" so I obliged (not bringing my British option but renting US equivalent) upon arrival I was by far the most formally dressed. Some guests were in shorts and sandals, and the wedding party was in lounge suits. It seemed odd to go to the effort of naming a dress code only to not even apply it to a wedding party. Other North American wedding I attended which didn't specify, I could dress appropriately as I had more flexibility and a Prince Charlie Kilt could function for what was needed, and even at the formal end at least was in keeping.
The "If they didn't bother to dress up, why should I?" thing is half true. If I go to an event and see others have ignored dress code I just carry on, while not looking like a peasent. 🤣 (nod to Raphael)
As dress code gis I think it can be useful even for today. I believe having more of a gentle than particular is best. Making an exception for funeral and other activities with similar pressures.
Exactly. I'm not in favour of excluding people but I think society does need some minimum of standards. People dress poorly, behave poorly and it reflects in wider society.
My stepmother sees this a lot at the supermarket she works at. It's just scruffy-looking. Is it too much effort to at least have a t-shirt and pair of jeans on?
Starting a new job this week in an office with a pretty strict dress code and it's scary because my body just doesn't feel right/comfortable in most business attire, but I'm trying my best. Expanding my wardrobe and looking for clothes that will fit comfortably and flatter me and it's starting to get very expensive
I see the decline in dress codes as a symptom of the overall decline of our society. By having absolutely no standards, people are exhibiting a total lack of respect for others and for society as a whole; although they don't realize it, they're also exhibiting a total lack of self-respect as well.
I mean, being have been talking about an overall decline for centuries so that statement doesn't mean a whole lot. I do agree with the second half though. Although let's be fair, there are a lot of people struggling right now and clothing is not going to be high on the list of priorities.
@@garlicgirl3149 Oh agreed! You should at least keep yourself looking clean and tidy. (And not go into the supermarket wearing frigging pyjamas. My stepmum has seen a lot of customers like that.)
Hello. I would agree that dress codes are still useful. For one thing, I notice I have a certain level of formality that I like to present, a “put together” look, for everyday casual wear. Polo shirts or button up shirts, chinos for pants, that sort of thing. And, sometimes I have a brown leather jacket to finish the ensemble. Apparently I did not watch all the dress code videos on the Gentleman’s Gazette, because I did not know until this video that the style of casual I have been aiming towards was its own dress code, smart casual. I do want to say something curious. Sometimes I will do “suit days” where I will dress up in a suit “just because”, basically going up the formality scale a bit. Sort of where I hear that at workplaces where the general dress code is casual there will sometimes be “dress-up” Fridays. The curious thing is that while nobody else is dressing like me, everyone likes seeing it on me. I get a number of compliments on the look, and I can thank the Gentleman’s Gazette for things like how to get the colors right, for instance. And, this is where dress codes are helpful to me as well. Looking at the levels of formality, I can gauge what the look would be if I go up one or two steps. Also, I get the advantage of knowing what works at each step without trying to reinvent the wheel each time.
"Dress to impress' Ok fine I will dress as an 17th century monarch with purple cape, elaborate tiger skin jacket, and a gigantic golden and ivory necklace. That will be more impressive than ANY suit on planet Earth.
I firmly believe that dress codes not only *should* remain an orientation as to what to wear in certain contexts, I also feel that they are returning slowly. Hear me out! When I grew up in the late 80s and into the 90s dress code as a concept was in the decline. Never the less when I graduated school here in Germany, in a contrast to what we as students had seen in some our our older predecessors, we suddenly and without any true coordination, everyone was wearing some minor variation of, let's call it "will to black tie", granted we looked more of a set of MIBs eventually, chiefly because we failed individually in several fields and all went with black. Now that was back in 2004, fast forwards to me working next to a school and witnessing the development of formal wear worn by Gymnasium students for their graduation regularly, it's getting much better, a lot more navy instead of our lame black, more bow-ties, heck even hats, which I wore, but it was a fedora and a black fedora on top of a black suit..yeah, lame. But it was the early noughts... 😅 Even better: because I usually hang around the workshop before we open I actually get consulted regularly by older students, sometimes out of curiosity as to why I'm always wearing some form of suit or combination, sometimes quite elaborate when I feel like it (no one needed to go to work in morning suit since at least the Great War...😆) but I can transfer knowledge about dress codes just because I know them and also honestly because I enjoy (and know how to) a bit of teaching (in a different life I would have been a teacher, studied that for a full six years until things went different ways) and do my tiny part in getting some of the more elaborate dress codes back. And even if I'm the only one wearing dress-code on occasion (I was dressed in morning suit when I got my journeyman's certificate - I'm an orthopaedic bespoke shoemaker) I still do it and I never got anything but respect and the thought to wear something more appropriate themself from others. And I believe most people here know that many enjoy seeing proper dress-code even if they originally didn't intent or know it themself. At least that's what I got told too many times by too many people for it to be just polite conversation (and Germans tend to be honest at the cost of politeness anyway🤣 ). So yes, to me dress-code is not only alive but seeing a minor resurgence and why not? Best regards Raoul G. Kunz
Dress codes are absolutely necessary and a great thing in general. Tha fact that European, or Euroatlantic based, societies are in a state of total disrepair, downfall and degeneracy of even basic rules, courtesy and societal conventions does not mean we should encourage this sorry state of affairs by "killing off" dress codes. On the contrary! Let's soldier on and be pioneers of the appropriate style and behavior to not let it die out! 💪👍
Mandatory dress code for work, depending of its nature, yes. Countless are the times I've seen people on IT consulting firms following a standardising dress code with fancy suit brands but with nothing inside their heads. Besides, many companies don't let room to express yourself even wearing a suit, they tell you which colours are permitted for ties and even maybe they'll call you out because you're wearing a pocket square or something considered as "unprofessional". I'm a firm believer that we must epxress our individuality somehow.
A resounding no! I appreciate them. I hate not knowing and being left to wonder. I tend to dress up a bit more most days unless I’m in the garden. Many times you can go cocktail so you’re in between casual and black/white tie. But if anything I feel like we need dress codes more often. I see too much that I cannot under. 😅
The only dress codes that should die are company apparel. Currently working for the nation's largest bank (I'll let you guess) and their dress code is so dumb. It makes zero sense. Have to wear their apparel, their ties, only solid suits, no patterns, but I can wear jeans whenever?. Absolutely dumb. Leaving this friday and can finally wear my own clothes!
Umm I live in a major Midwest city and the dress code is long dead. I’m lucky to see people wearing pants at a 4 star place around town. I still like to look the part. I don’t care what others do For me it’s part of the fun going out. I like to look fine and seeing others look fine. It’s not a pretentious thing it’s about acknowledging a special occasion and trying to look handsome/ beautiful/ respectful. And I’m the first one to put on my overalls and cap when I’m around the homestead.
No way! Dress codes look really nice and much better than today’s clothing we’re wearing today, pretty much ripped jeans and tank tops! It is so nice to wear a suit and tie and actually look presentable!
NO! If anything, we need a trend towards more formal dress codes. There's just something so bizarre and unsettling that casual attire has gotten as far as going to the store in their pajamas and slippers with a logo Tshirt. While wearing white ties or morning suit may seem so archaic these days, a polo shirt dress code should serve as a bare minimum in public forums. People can wear what they want in their own home, but in public some standard should be followed, since the extreme to casual wear goes to utter chaos in wear and explicitness to say the least.
I think most people, but especially western men are just tired of dressing like little boys. I’m a teenager and I know it can be hard to dress up when everyone around you is wearing athletic wear and trendy clothes, but really, most people I’ve spoken to and encouraged to dress up too actually reacted quite interested, as soon as they acknowledged that it was socially acceptable. The suit is basically the default uniform of western men, and by wearing something like it, I think many people get a feeling of maturity, authority and even responsibility, since you’re responsibly taking care of the traditions your parents/grandparents were introduced to. Apart from the importance of dress codes in general, I think people should dress up more.
Will Preston, that was a fantastic video and I thank you! And I like the fact that you alluded to the 5:00 shadow. you should leave it on because you look more distinguished. Also you kept talking about. Mudeling every time I hear that word it screams mint julep!! I wanted to run downstairs and make one! But I decided not too. There's nothing like starting to drink at 3:00 in the afternoon on a Monday morning.. who were the two gentlemen in the video are they going to become part of the team or they were they just standins. I think all of the dress codes should be enforced the last thing you want to see is an uneducated Millennial running around with a yellow toga with a man bun wearing a pair of pink and purple Crocs that's the scariest thing I've ever seen!!.. actually I think I just threw up in my mouth! LOL
Dress codes definitely have a place in society. I like to live by a simple rule in that respect: dress like the person you want to be. Which is why I usually wear a suit when I’m work and no one else does unless absolutely necessary (ie, going to court)
I don’t think they really matter. I dress up everyday solely because I enjoy it. I can wear a series of more formal business suits or just as regularly rotate from blazer and odd trousers, tweed, safari suits, Neapolitan, and velvet without a second thought. I wear what I like and it doesn’t really bother me if someone else does the same.
@@dandiehm8414 In my country, our traditional culture can be reflected in our modern practical fashion. Mainly batik, and the pattern reflects origin of a local culture. In the past, Batik was just worn for big event, and sometimes, the dress code. But in 2000s, there was a popularity rise of batik. Thus, we have unofficial Batik friday, which Batik clothes are worn for work. The usual shirt, tie, and pants often deemed boring here.
@@zitronentee How nice! Sadly in my country (USA) many people seem to think that Jeans and a T-shirt are all that is needed for any occasion. Wear a collared shirt and a sport coat and you are "Fancy". Wear that with a tie and many people are shocked. I wish there were stricter dress codes for schools and restaurants, and that people took more pride in their appearance when going out shopping.
@@dandiehm8414 I understand. When I was in Europe, I can always spot Americans among Europeans. Wearing sportswear in public or dressing too comfortable (not casual or semi-formal) are usually Americans. As Indonesian, we have school uniform (including Batik friday uniform). And it's important for us for some occasions to 'look the part' but not too lavish. Just look clean and presentable.
I think dress codes don't have to be as strict as in the past, not being allowed in a place because of your clothes is embarrassing and unfair. But, of course, a measure of elegance should be expected or even enforced in certain ocasions, like weddings, funerals, restaurants and such. Clothes with curse words written on, or revealing clothes, such as gym clothes or clothing that is overly sensual or distracting should be not allowed in certain settings, especially when couples with children might be around. Another thing is that some people live in places where they simply cannot buy clothes in a higher formality standard. I myself have never seen a black tie outfit in person anywhere, not even in stores, and I've been to a number of ocasions that deserved such level of formality. So I'm not against it, I simply don't have easy access to it.
No dress codes should always have a place in our society it helps us to maintain community and avoid chaos when certain structures are in place there is an appreciation for the norms however whenever we leave things up to a hit-or-miss attitude then the lines become blurred between proper dress for certain occasions never would it be right to attend a funeral in cut-off shorts and a tee shirt thanks for sharing the video!
I actually think dress codes deserve to decline. Their enforcement is a reason they're dying. Classic gentleman dress is niche now, and that's fine. Raphael once said something like "I better see one man that wears suit because he wants to, then a 1000 men that wear it because they have to" Sorry my English.
Having grown up in the South, this is not as big an issue. There are still strict dress codes. My nephew (he's now 27), he had to wear a tie for his high school bowling league. They would get kicked out if kid showed up without a tie.
I feel like good dress ware will come from a want to wear it. With dress codes gone the main reason to hate a suit is going away. So hopefully more men (myself included) start to see the suit for more of a nice way to dress
Dress codes may evolve, formality might either devolve or evolve depending on perspective. Hybrid of formal and smart casual, or smart casual may be next considered as high end wear. Hybrid of smart casual and athletic wear is getting more common especially for people who don't feel comfortable being too casual or feeling too stuffy but want easier to care for clothing. It won't be too surprising if office workers will look like camp counsellors, sales floor associates, or fast food employees much more when the companies and schools decide to enforce a certain level of uniform and organizational representation. This of course if they are required to be in person or must wear the company shirt during webcam meetings. Just speculating - who knows?
I dislike dress codes , but I do like dressing. Dress codes are only cool when everyone follows, but I hate to follow the codes and then see that the owner of the establishment or a "celebrity" is present and has not followed the dresscode.
I would argue that dress codes actually still exist, and are still exclusionary, but now they’re unspoken so it’s even more difficult to meet them. In my workplace for instance, there’s no resource you can find on how to dress. You can wear classic business wear or be super casual and no one will say anything. But I would argue that the people who dress nicer probably are better off in the long-run. It would probably be easier for everyone if we just had a clear dress code for the office. Also, I’ve been denied entry into restaurants a few times for being dressed too casually. Never felt offended. I’d rather be denied entry than go in and be grossly underdressed.
The crux of the problem is that very few people have clothes made by a tailor or dressmaker anymore, before the Second World War most people had their clothing made or at least altered to fit them, specifically the wearer, which not only ensured that people looked good in any of their garments but it also allowed for personal expression. Men's formal attire has been ossified since the First World War and the ensuing of the Depression and WWII with the associated cost growth of properly fitted formal attire combined with the decline of more specific formal events had completely prevented evolution of the said formal ware. Not forgetting going to the tailor would also be men's primary source of the newest fashion, fabric and the appropriate clothing for the upcoming event.
I don't think dress codes should die but don't mind changing some things. I don't care for things like suit jackets since I find other jackets so much cooler. Instead, I have a good amount of tailored leathers/suede jackets from saint laurent balmain and prorsum that I wear daily in addition to shearlings and longcoats. In addition, I mainly wear cashmeres/wool sweaters since I don't care for buttons up shirts since more maintenance. I do think things like hoodies flip flops shorts and sweatpants should not be allowed to certain functions. I prefer boots much more as well like chelseas/jodphurs/santiags or the saint laurent wyatt. A fitted perfecto/cafe racer will always look cooler than a suit jacket imo.
@10:15 If you are the person hosting the event and post a "dress code" That is what's expected. I attended several events for the PA Army National Guard. The final Meal of the event stated 'Evening Mess' & those that did not meet standards stood in the outer hall or left the building. What is so hard about that?
*Absolutely Not! In my country the Philippines, dress code are strictly implemented in Government agencies (e.g Hall of Justice, Congress and Presidential Palace) and Private meetings.* 😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁
Regarding why dress codes seem confusing I think the variety of garments has also increased. There are shirt with far more patterns and even fabrics nowadays for example. Some dress codes are designed to be expensive. White tie is a perfect example. White tie means you need a tailored suit. That being said, white tie also means that traditional wear is permitted. Basically it's also surprisingly inclusive. Black tie is also quite expensive. You still need a tailored suit....although it won't be as expensive as a white tie suit. I will admit one thing. Dress codes can act as an equaliser. Most people don't own a tuxedo (black tie) so a black tie optional would be the best option out there. Most people never did have white tie and black tie suits. Most events for most people never had these suits. This is a fact that people that think of the "golden age" of men's wear forget. Things haven't changed too much. Let's hope Preston's wife doesn't get mad at him for wearing a silver wedding band. Wedding rings and bands aren't changed.
The Vieux riche vs Nouveau riche, Etiqutte vs rude & no manners, Proper attire vs Trendy/Flashy, Basiclly You can't buy class, it is an acquired trait. The way we dress and present ourselfs is the first visual clue that seperates the stratum.
Dress codes are vastly important. Granted it’s not an issue at my church, I’ve seen churches where people wear literally tshirts and shorts. While I don’t think wearing a complete suit is always necessary in church, I think there’s other great options too of which I’d love to expand into, it’s not a bad look either. Culturally even in the US it is different have to remember too. Down south in texas jeans and boots, and such can be considered a higher dress than casual. But again that’s regional. Overall I think dress codes need to be brought more as a standard practice. I don’t understand why people don’t want to present themselves well these days
Here in Nicaragua, only some people wear jackets or suits to the National Theater, and around half of the People attendong wear only casual clothes, would it be out of place going to a place like this in Black Tie attire?
The problem with the discussion isn't the subject. It's the fact that defining the dress codes provides nice shortcuts to people not "in the social loop" as to how to dress to be acceptable for something. However, the purpose from those who set the rules is try to separate those in "the know" from those not in the know or in that "group". As ways of dress evolve, that will continue to be the case. But the social headache will remain and sometimes you just have to make your best guess and fail embarrasingly and adjust accordingly. And though the hosts should figure it out, you as a guest should also find a way to get in contact with others and challenge on what the dress code really means. The example I give was not reading the casual dress code correctly of a summer engagement party I went to once in Long Island somewhere. I showed up in cargo shorts, polo with a big logo, and a 59fifty baseball hat (color to match) not realizing how off from the norms it was, despite casual fabrics being called for. While I partially concluded that I definitely was not from that world, I think that was the moment I started to pay attention a lot better to subtle dress codes. (Luckily it was an event with family and there was enough going on that it was only me who felt the embarrassment of what I did).
Definitely not. The whole casualization of outfits is a rather apparent illustration on how we as a society have lost respect to others and put more focus on ourselves. Most of the trends today are all about "personal comfort". In Malaysia where I'm from, you can find people who thinks it's acceptable to attend a funeral, yes a funeral, in jeans and t-shirt. And that is sadly for quite a big portion of the citizens here. Walk into a funeral parlor and you will see a worrying amount of denim. It's tragic to see that we have reached a state where our own comfort is more important than paying proper respect to the dead. As we have somehow lost the idea that the way we dress is a matter of respect and decorum to the place, occasion and the people we are meeting, dress codes should NEVER die. Not only that, we should educate people on how important it is to show the proper respect people deserve with our clothing and that is the reason why dress codes exist in the first place. Some may argue that dress codes are inherently classist, and although it is true historically I don't think the classist argument still holds up. Almost every working man can now afford at least a set of clothing that is presentable, sharp, and formal enough for a wedding, funeral or any important event to be used at a moment's notice unlike decades or centuries ago where everything has to be tailored specifically for a person. So long live the dress code.
A lack of a dress code is itself a dress code and like most things, a lack of a specific dress code will go away too and dress codes will come back again.
I am not exactly someone who has the chance to dress up... But I still try and dress decently, and dress codes are good guidelines. And whoever wears a hat with a swearword on it at a fancy restaurant is a fool. We should try and have them do it at the restaurant "La Parolaccia" in Rome: the entertainment is Roman-style cussing from quick-witted waiters (the establishment's name even means "The Swearword", so you know exactly what the staff will do), and it would be amusing to see what they'd do to such an individual.
Dress Codes should be required for E V E R Y T H I N G.... F O R E V E R ... It's so depressing and appalling to go out and about and people are wearing almost nothing or swearing ragged pajamas or sweats they've had in their closet for 10 years.
Just my personal opinion, dress codes need to be more used and suggested. The idea and sight of the pants OVER PRICED ripped up is completely tacky. However I do agree with the freedom of people wearing what they want but please respect yourself and others.
My office has a dress code. Suits are no longer required. It is business casual. This is defined as shirts with collars, casual pants and shoes etc. No shirts without collars, sweat pants, jeans, beach wear (Thank God), sneakers and the like.
No it doesn't. By the way how are things going with your music Preston? I use to enjoy performing in my band concerts so I can definitely understand your passion for it. Also when you wear sweaters over collared shirts can they both be the same size? Thanks for the fascinating content as always.
Why wouldn't you want to look your best? There is a big hate on neck ties, I don't get it, a nice tie with the right knot is like a power up in Mario for me. In business few people wear ties in my industry - drives me a little crazy.
‘Fine clothes serve to procure respect, for want of other means’…….Samuel Johnson….18th century English philosopher. Or….look at how King Charles the third dresses; always correctly for every occasion……an amusing conundrum.
My only frustration with dress codes is people are too vague. There’s an appropriate dress code for each occasion and I just wish people made the effort to find out exactly which one it is. Getting an invitation with two options for dress code is so frustrating especially if you are overdressed in comparison to others.
I am a classical musician by training, so "be the hero of your own musical adventure" would mean exactly one thing: impeccably executed white tie. End of story :) I personally believe that black tie and white tie are part of a certain cultural capital. One does not necessarily have to use them, but one should know how to do them. And if one is going to do them at all, one should of course do them right. On the other hand, I also believe that there are ways of doing jeans and cowboy boots that are suitable for dinner at an elegant restaurant and a night out at the opera. Now admittedly, for a man they are quite edgy and, shall we say, very androgynous. But it can be done :)
It is a sad true that dress codes are slowly fading but if there's enough enthusiasts out there, they can throw parties and dinners with specific dress codes in mind for all the menswear geeks 🧑🏫🕵♂️
We agree! As the video mentioned regarding special events: stay tuned...😉
- Preston
i wish i could be invited for one of those i'm pretty anti social overall living in my own bubble but would certainly invest time and budget for such an event! my daily clothing is a nice small wardrobe consisting of pieces that are promoted by the gentlemens gazette only dress trousers and dress shirts sport coats with waistcoats and fair isles and knitwear i'm washing it all with the hand to extend the lifetime of my clothing!
Not quite.
@@zaco-km3su Where I live it's a done deal, basically.
Interesting
There is only one place where the dress code will never die. In most cases you will be using the term “Your Honor” after each statement!
Unless he is wearing track pants under his robe .
I have become interested in classic menswear over the past two years. I like the fact it's timeless and I love the look. I have adopted the idea of being a gentleman and find it suitable for my character.
Personally, it has improved my manners, demeanour and posture.
It is noticeable how society is becoming more casual. The one thing it does is draw your attention to people who are well dressed for an occasion. I have had compliments in the way I dress as I become accustomed to dress codes.
Absolutely not. There is nothing more annoying than going to what is expected to be an upscale restaurant and sitting across from someone wearing a tank top- actually just happened to me
Yep - agreed 100%.
That’s Southern California.
But why does that bother you
@@StealthySpace7 it bothers the eye and the general mood you are in
I hate it when people set a specific dress code and then 50% or more end up not following it.
No. Dress codes will always have a role in society at large in the long term. While our world has become much more casual in its attire, there will be those moments were dressing up will have a role in one's life.
Looks like someone is b*tthurt about all the 100-yearold outfits and accessories they bought by watching this channel and have no occasion to wear.
@@bellsando6506well, will you look at that! someone’s offended
I completely agree. What is considered formal may change but there will always be an expected level of dress for certain occasions.
Well Stated !
Men's fashion has always been getting more casual. What we think of as suits today were originally lounge suits, which were meant to be casual clothing you wore in the home. When you went out, you wore a frock coat/tails and a top hat.
In the future, dress shirts and chinos/jeans will be seen as the super formal option (like suits today), and hoodies and college pants will be normal wear. What will be casual wear, I dread to even think
@@tj-co9goidk what you are talking about, shirts are already formal wear, the only occasion where i wear shirts is for formal occasions, because you wear shirts as a normal wear when you are at home?
Years back I had a chance to go to "The Magic Castle" near Hollwood CA. They have a dress code to have to follow or you don't get in. I had to (sorry) borrow a suit from my dad. I had so much fun that night, it turned out to be one of the best evenings out I ever had. Nothing wrong with dress codes in general but not for everything. I now enjoy getting "dressed up" but still enjoy my jeans and T-shirts.
Oh yeah the Magic Castle. We have moved out of LA area but kept our vacation home in Lake Arrowhead. MC is such a treat.
@@LP-gs3xj So is Lake Arrowhead and Big Bear Lake.....
Why haven’t you shown you all in suits earlier?! You look fascinating! I want more times your staff dressed up at one time!
If you are not the best dressed man in the room, then you better be one of the best dressed men in the room. The Gentleman's Gazette is the first place I go for inspiration, but I always look back to my Father who taught me by example how to dress.
True story. Last year I was invited to a friend's 50th birthday, for which her husband threw a big party at a golf course hall. The venue was changed almost at the last minute. On the later invitation, men were required to wear tuxedos. I don't own one, and to rent one was going to be very expensive, for which I was not wiling to spend that kind of money, so I went with a nice pair of slacks, matching shoes, shirt, tie and jacket. Would you believe that not one man was wearing a tuxedo that night? WOuldn't I have looked ridiculous and felt foolish for following a last minute whim? While I can understand if this were at an opera house, or some bigwig event, this party didn't warrant it. All men were well dressed. The pint being that, a tuxedo, or a dress code should make sense, and not become an unnecessary burden on the people attending.
I would have shown up with dark jeans and a polo shirt. I would never dress up for a birthday party.
It's no wonder no one wore dinner suits. With renting a dinner suit, you generally have to ship it to your home, or at least go through a process. Buying one requires finding the whole shebang, buying it, and ideally having it tailored. You'd pretty much need to own a dinner suit beforehand. Only way I can see last-minute black tie ensembles working is with a group of vintage lovers who all own a set.
thats a fault in the organisation of the party not the code,imagine if it were meant to be black tie but changed to casual and the host forgot to tell 2 couples, embarrassing but no fault of the code and as the latest invite 'required men to wear a tuxedo' if i were the host I would have felt disrespected that none of the men followed the requirement but still turned up. I am sorry but forgetting dress codes, but you seem to have little understanding of social ettiquete. whether Buckingham palace or the local burger joint, it isnt the venue that decides the dress code, its the host , whether the palace holds a party, dress code 1977 punk, or the local scout hut holds a black tie, its so below bad form to decide you know better than the host or that the venue isnt worthy of you following code. as for no tux to wear, i recently attended a black tie, on the way out i snagged my jacket, i changed into a black 2 piece suit, kept shirt,studs, bow, cummerbund etc, arrived at the event and made my apologies to the host and carried on, SOCIAL ETTIQUET.
One thing I actually miss about West Point and the Army is the banquets and balls. We would have receiving lines, formal toasts, etc. Most people don't go to a semi-formal or formal event once a year. One of my favorite memories is taking my soon-to-be spouse to a unit ball themed around Valentine's Day. It was very romantic.
I think there's a balance. A local steakhouse where I grew up was black tie after 9. Anytime before that you could wear whatever. Sometimes you'd go in and there'd be a weird mix of dress codes from people showing up before and after 9 being in the restaurant, but it mostly seemed to work fine.
Agree. There is a balance. My other pet peeve is people attending funerals and weddings dressed like the are going to work in the yard- at least wear a shirt with a collar
Dress codes are exclusionary by definition - they are a "code" used to exclude those, who don't know the code. Dress guidelines are a polar opposite - they guide people towards the expected way of dressing.
As someone who struggles with trying to understand unspoken rules, and what to wear, I appreciate dress codes. Especially where everyone has different ideas of what's appropriate, and it's really awkward if you show up to an event in a way that's much more formal or more casual than everyone else. Like if someone is wearing a tuxedo and someone else is wearing chino pants with a dress shirt, it can look like someone either couldn't afford the more formal wear, or someone didn't pay attention to the situation.
I'm planning my wedding, and I personally like the idea of different variants of dress codes, like how garden party attire is like a themed version of semi-formal or cocktail attire, which allows for more freedom with colours and patterns. I like the different styles, colours, and variants of things, like some modern dress codes includes jumpsuits and suits for women, but it's hard to know what places allow which things. I plan to give examples on the wedding website of some outfits for a variety of comfort levels and wardrobes, as well as gender expressions as I have a couple relatives that prefer to dress in ways that are more androgynous, and I know not all women like to wear dresses.
My high school's homecoming and sweethearts dances have a "best dress" dress code. The only details it gives are "No t shirts or denim; tuxedo and formal wear highly discouraged" Last year I wore a black dress shirt and pants with a pink tie and silver pocket watch in my hip pocket. Then I discovered Gentlemen's Gazette and gained a sense of style. This year I wore a navy suit with a navy and black tie, gold collar bar and wristwatch, and cognac brogues.
I would certainly argue for the opposite. I think that dress codes should make a prominent come back. There are events and situations we find ourselves where I believe dressing a certain way is necessary and a matter of respect. My wedding will certainly be dark suits only. I’ll be wearing black tie of course so the men would be one step down from me.
Most weddings around me either have outdoor weddings or outdoor receptions. You can pry my pastels and flats from my dead hands
@@PrincessNinja007 Can’t have mine outside even if I wanted to. Has to be in church. I like outside weddings though. If mine were outside then yes it would definitely be less formal. Something more geared towards hot weather but still classy. I’m saving all the fun outside stuff for the honeymoon though.
I agree that dress codes should make a prominent come back. It's about time, though really, imo, they should have never been disregarded to begin with.
I hate having to wear a jacket for dinner,I don't want to spill anything on an expensive jacket
Thank you Mr. Preston for the great and informative video. You always perform a wonderful video.
I can't tell you how often I am commented on by complete total strangers and how attractive I look when I am in full suit when I go to work each day my work does not require me to use that but I dress because it makes me feel good and the comments I get are over and over and over and over and over how well I look and how nice that someone takes the time to look like well a gentleman.
in my books, dress codes will always be important! my weddings dress code is going to be black tie, and if anyone has any questions, I'd be more than happy to help them out
They're probably not coming back. Flattening of differences and distinction, deconstruction of social norms, scorn for tradition, viewing any restrictions on individual choice as oppressive, and the desire to tear down anything noble are all inherent to liberalism. Dress codes are inherently restrictive and hierarchical, and thus incompatible with the logic of liberalism in the long run. At this point, it's too far gone for them to ever come back. When a fine dining restaurant asks for business casual, people show up in sports team t-shirts, cargo shorts, and flip flops, and the restaurant says nothing. I'd love to ask people to dress up for my wedding, but even if I did they wouldn't do it. I'll be the only one wearing a suit while guests wear collared shirts with jeans. There's just no point trying to implement a dress code when the vast majority of people don't know what they mean, and don't own any outfits that would even be considered business casual.
3:18 Actually, the film Goldfinger came out in 1964. Thunderball came out in 1965.
Nice spot, I guess we should have "paid attention, 007!"
I have worn my TheJacketMaker leather jacket between 3 and 7 times a week for two years now, and it’s still going strong. It’s a fantastic product for much less than off the rack jackets.
They make some of the finest Leather Jackets which are unique and perfectly styled. Some of the best on the market, it's actually very difficult to find good leather makers these days, a lot of leather coats and pants are made with inferior grades and often just look dumpy, wrinkly and are junk.
If dress codes die there will be no more basis on what is formal or not or appropriate for any occasion. Dressing up would be out of sense and we might as well walk around as a clowns.
BTW Preston did you break or lose your Merkur razor?
No, it's still in my collection, though I've also been experimenting with offerings from Mühle and Henson Shaving--and of course, with letting things grow a bit from time to time (which I'm assuming was the impetus for your question). Thanks for watching!
- Preston
No because I just spent money on the correct tux so now I am gonna be "That Guy" and demand it of everyone!😉🤣
As a Brit visiting North America, I find the relationship with dress codes very odd.
I attended a wedding which was marked as "black tie" so I obliged (not bringing my British option but renting US equivalent) upon arrival I was by far the most formally dressed. Some guests were in shorts and sandals, and the wedding party was in lounge suits.
It seemed odd to go to the effort of naming a dress code only to not even apply it to a wedding party.
Other North American wedding I attended which didn't specify, I could dress appropriately as I had more flexibility and a Prince Charlie Kilt could function for what was needed, and even at the formal end at least was in keeping.
To avoid any complications, the dress code for my wedding will be "NO CLOTHES ALLOWED"
The "If they didn't bother to dress up, why should I?" thing is half true. If I go to an event and see others have ignored dress code I just carry on, while not looking like a peasent. 🤣 (nod to Raphael)
See Goodfellas,"This is a restaurant, we dont serve hotdogs and burgers here! Take your baseball cap off!!"
As dress code gis I think it can be useful even for today. I believe having more of a gentle than particular is best. Making an exception for funeral and other activities with similar pressures.
Anyone that leaves their home in pajama bottoms and fuzzy slippers should be shamed.
Exactly. I'm not in favour of excluding people but I think society does need some minimum of standards. People dress poorly, behave poorly and it reflects in wider society.
My stepmother sees this a lot at the supermarket she works at. It's just scruffy-looking. Is it too much effort to at least have a t-shirt and pair of jeans on?
@@1Thunderfire well if you’re just going to the shop and back home I can understand, but also yeah I agree
Starting a new job this week in an office with a pretty strict dress code and it's scary because my body just doesn't feel right/comfortable in most business attire, but I'm trying my best. Expanding my wardrobe and looking for clothes that will fit comfortably and flatter me and it's starting to get very expensive
Get your body in a shape
@@darenius3105 I am "in shape" I am 6'2" and 250 lbs. Business attire looks and feels incredibly silly on me...
My office has a collared button down on one side of me, and a Scouts t shirt and fatigues from the waist down on the other side
business casual
If you haven't already seen it, our budget dressing tips might be handy for you! www.gentlemansgazette.com/gentleman-dress-suit-budget-15-tips-guide/?
Of course not! I also find a dress code helps everyone enjoy themselves more.
Also, are there any good resources for women's dress codes?
I see the decline in dress codes as a symptom of the overall decline of our society. By having absolutely no standards, people are exhibiting a total lack of respect for others and for society as a whole; although they don't realize it, they're also exhibiting a total lack of self-respect as well.
Boom!!!
I mean, being have been talking about an overall decline for centuries so that statement doesn't mean a whole lot. I do agree with the second half though. Although let's be fair, there are a lot of people struggling right now and clothing is not going to be high on the list of priorities.
@@1Thunderfire I too understand your thoughts. However, lack of funds for clothes does not always mean unkept or lack of respect for one's self.
You are 100% right!
@@garlicgirl3149 Oh agreed! You should at least keep yourself looking clean and tidy. (And not go into the supermarket wearing frigging pyjamas. My stepmum has seen a lot of customers like that.)
Hello. I would agree that dress codes are still useful. For one thing, I notice I have a certain level of formality that I like to present, a “put together” look, for everyday casual wear. Polo shirts or button up shirts, chinos for pants, that sort of thing. And, sometimes I have a brown leather jacket to finish the ensemble. Apparently I did not watch all the dress code videos on the Gentleman’s Gazette, because I did not know until this video that the style of casual I have been aiming towards was its own dress code, smart casual.
I do want to say something curious. Sometimes I will do “suit days” where I will dress up in a suit “just because”, basically going up the formality scale a bit. Sort of where I hear that at workplaces where the general dress code is casual there will sometimes be “dress-up” Fridays. The curious thing is that while nobody else is dressing like me, everyone likes seeing it on me. I get a number of compliments on the look, and I can thank the Gentleman’s Gazette for things like how to get the colors right, for instance. And, this is where dress codes are helpful to me as well. Looking at the levels of formality, I can gauge what the look would be if I go up one or two steps. Also, I get the advantage of knowing what works at each step without trying to reinvent the wheel each time.
You just described my look. Mine is smart casual also.😀
"Dress to impress'
Ok fine I will dress as an 17th century monarch with purple cape, elaborate tiger skin jacket, and a gigantic golden and ivory necklace. That will be more impressive than ANY suit on planet Earth.
You haven’t seen the King of Swaziland, have you?
I firmly believe that dress codes not only *should* remain an orientation as to what to wear in certain contexts, I also feel that they are returning slowly.
Hear me out!
When I grew up in the late 80s and into the 90s dress code as a concept was in the decline.
Never the less when I graduated school here in Germany, in a contrast to what we as students had seen in some our our older predecessors, we suddenly and without any true coordination, everyone was wearing some minor variation of, let's call it "will to black tie", granted we looked more of a set of MIBs eventually, chiefly because we failed individually in several fields and all went with black.
Now that was back in 2004, fast forwards to me working next to a school and witnessing the development of formal wear worn by Gymnasium students for their graduation regularly, it's getting much better, a lot more navy instead of our lame black, more bow-ties, heck even hats, which I wore, but it was a fedora and a black fedora on top of a black suit..yeah, lame. But it was the early noughts... 😅
Even better: because I usually hang around the workshop before we open I actually get consulted regularly by older students, sometimes out of curiosity as to why I'm always wearing some form of suit or combination, sometimes quite elaborate when I feel like it (no one needed to go to work in morning suit since at least the Great War...😆) but I can transfer knowledge about dress codes just because I know them and also honestly because I enjoy (and know how to) a bit of teaching (in a different life I would have been a teacher, studied that for a full six years until things went different ways) and do my tiny part in getting some of the more elaborate dress codes back.
And even if I'm the only one wearing dress-code on occasion (I was dressed in morning suit when I got my journeyman's certificate - I'm an orthopaedic bespoke shoemaker) I still do it and I never got anything but respect and the thought to wear something more appropriate themself from others.
And I believe most people here know that many enjoy seeing proper dress-code even if they originally didn't intent or know it themself.
At least that's what I got told too many times by too many people for it to be just polite conversation (and Germans tend to be honest at the cost of politeness anyway🤣 ).
So yes, to me dress-code is not only alive but seeing a minor resurgence and why not?
Best regards
Raoul G. Kunz
Dress codes are absolutely necessary and a great thing in general. Tha fact that European, or Euroatlantic based, societies are in a state of total disrepair, downfall and degeneracy of even basic rules, courtesy and societal conventions does not mean we should encourage this sorry state of affairs by "killing off" dress codes. On the contrary! Let's soldier on and be pioneers of the appropriate style and behavior to not let it die out! 💪👍
Mandatory dress code for work, depending of its nature, yes. Countless are the times I've seen people on IT consulting firms following a standardising dress code with fancy suit brands but with nothing inside their heads. Besides, many companies don't let room to express yourself even wearing a suit, they tell you which colours are permitted for ties and even maybe they'll call you out because you're wearing a pocket square or something considered as "unprofessional". I'm a firm believer that we must epxress our individuality somehow.
Huh? Why would a believer of individuality expression work for a corporation?
@@thomasmaresh5264 one who needs to pay the bills maybe? Maybe you need to re-read my comment again.
A resounding no! I appreciate them. I hate not knowing and being left to wonder. I tend to dress up a bit more most days unless I’m in the garden.
Many times you can go cocktail so you’re in between casual and black/white tie. But if anything I feel like we need dress codes more often. I see too much that I cannot under. 😅
The only dress codes that should die are company apparel. Currently working for the nation's largest bank (I'll let you guess) and their dress code is so dumb. It makes zero sense. Have to wear their apparel, their ties, only solid suits, no patterns, but I can wear jeans whenever?. Absolutely dumb. Leaving this friday and can finally wear my own clothes!
Umm I live in a major Midwest city and the dress code is long dead. I’m lucky to see people wearing pants at a 4 star place around town. I still like to look the part. I don’t care what others do For me it’s part of the fun going out. I like to look fine and seeing others look fine. It’s not a pretentious thing it’s about acknowledging a special occasion and trying to look handsome/ beautiful/ respectful. And I’m the first one to put on my overalls and cap when I’m around the homestead.
No way! Dress codes look really nice and much better than today’s clothing we’re wearing today, pretty much ripped jeans and tank tops! It is so nice to wear a suit and tie and actually look presentable!
NO! If anything, we need a trend towards more formal dress codes. There's just something so bizarre and unsettling that casual attire has gotten as far as going to the store in their pajamas and slippers with a logo Tshirt. While wearing white ties or morning suit may seem so archaic these days, a polo shirt dress code should serve as a bare minimum in public forums. People can wear what they want in their own home, but in public some standard should be followed, since the extreme to casual wear goes to utter chaos in wear and explicitness to say the least.
I think most people, but especially western men are just tired of dressing like little boys. I’m a teenager and I know it can be hard to dress up when everyone around you is wearing athletic wear and trendy clothes, but really, most people I’ve spoken to and encouraged to dress up too actually reacted quite interested, as soon as they acknowledged that it was socially acceptable.
The suit is basically the default uniform of western men, and by wearing something like it, I think many people get a feeling of maturity, authority and even responsibility, since you’re responsibly taking care of the traditions your parents/grandparents were introduced to.
Apart from the importance of dress codes in general, I think people should dress up more.
Jeans ,sportswear
In my city mostly sell shorts ,jeans,and sportswear
The biggest reason for all the sloppy attire is the clothing stores
Will Preston, that was a fantastic video and I thank you! And I like the fact that you alluded to the 5:00 shadow. you should leave it on because you look more distinguished. Also you kept talking about. Mudeling every time I hear that word it screams mint julep!! I wanted to run downstairs and make one! But I decided not too. There's nothing like starting to drink at 3:00 in the afternoon on a Monday morning.. who were the two gentlemen in the video are they going to become part of the team or they were they just standins. I think all of the dress codes should be enforced the last thing you want to see is an uneducated Millennial running around with a yellow toga with a man bun wearing a pair of pink and purple Crocs that's the scariest thing I've ever seen!!.. actually I think I just threw up in my mouth! LOL
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That depends, if a private establishment wants to set up an employee, customer, etc dress code, it's within their right to do so on their premises.
Dress codes definitely have a place in society. I like to live by a simple rule in that respect: dress like the person you want to be. Which is why I usually wear a suit when I’m work and no one else does unless absolutely necessary (ie, going to court)
It’s sad that people don’t see dress codes as a kind and considerate gesture.
I don’t think they really matter. I dress up everyday solely because I enjoy it. I can wear a series of more formal business suits or just as regularly rotate from blazer and odd trousers, tweed, safari suits, Neapolitan, and velvet without a second thought. I wear what I like and it doesn’t really bother me if someone else does the same.
15:00 this also extends especially to counter cultures. There is a baseline and the flair is how you are you.
Dress code is changing but will never die. The culture of a country can be seen in fashion (thus, dress code).
Fashion does not equal dress code.
@@dandiehm8414 In my country, our traditional culture can be reflected in our modern practical fashion. Mainly batik, and the pattern reflects origin of a local culture.
In the past, Batik was just worn for big event, and sometimes, the dress code. But in 2000s, there was a popularity rise of batik. Thus, we have unofficial Batik friday, which Batik clothes are worn for work.
The usual shirt, tie, and pants often deemed boring here.
@@zitronentee How nice! Sadly in my country (USA) many people seem to think that Jeans and a T-shirt are all that is needed for any occasion. Wear a collared shirt and a sport coat and you are "Fancy". Wear that with a tie and many people are shocked. I wish there were stricter dress codes for schools and restaurants, and that people took more pride in their appearance when going out shopping.
@@dandiehm8414 I understand. When I was in Europe, I can always spot Americans among Europeans. Wearing sportswear in public or dressing too comfortable (not casual or semi-formal) are usually Americans.
As Indonesian, we have school uniform (including Batik friday uniform). And it's important for us for some occasions to 'look the part' but not too lavish. Just look clean and presentable.
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I think dress codes don't have to be as strict as in the past, not being allowed in a place because of your clothes is embarrassing and unfair. But, of course, a measure of elegance should be expected or even enforced in certain ocasions, like weddings, funerals, restaurants and such. Clothes with curse words written on, or revealing clothes, such as gym clothes or clothing that is overly sensual or distracting should be not allowed in certain settings, especially when couples with children might be around. Another thing is that some people live in places where they simply cannot buy clothes in a higher formality standard. I myself have never seen a black tie outfit in person anywhere, not even in stores, and I've been to a number of ocasions that deserved such level of formality. So I'm not against it, I simply don't have easy access to it.
No dress codes should always have a place in our society it helps us to maintain community and avoid chaos when certain structures are in place there is an appreciation for the norms however whenever we leave things up to a hit-or-miss attitude then the lines become blurred between proper dress for certain occasions never would it be right to attend a funeral in cut-off shorts and a tee shirt thanks for sharing the video!
I actually think dress codes deserve to decline. Their enforcement is a reason they're dying. Classic gentleman dress is niche now, and that's fine. Raphael once said something like "I better see one man that wears suit because he wants to, then a 1000 men that wear it because they have to" Sorry my English.
Having grown up in the South, this is not as big an issue. There are still strict dress codes. My nephew (he's now 27), he had to wear a tie for his high school bowling league. They would get kicked out if kid showed up without a tie.
I feel like good dress ware will come from a want to wear it. With dress codes gone the main reason to hate a suit is going away. So hopefully more men (myself included) start to see the suit for more of a nice way to dress
Dress codes may evolve, formality might either devolve or evolve depending on perspective.
Hybrid of formal and smart casual, or smart casual may be next considered as high end wear. Hybrid of smart casual and athletic wear is getting more common especially for people who don't feel comfortable being too casual or feeling too stuffy but want easier to care for clothing.
It won't be too surprising if office workers will look like camp counsellors, sales floor associates, or fast food employees much more when the companies and schools decide to enforce a certain level of uniform and organizational representation. This of course if they are required to be in person or must wear the company shirt during webcam meetings.
Just speculating - who knows?
I can see Preston's neck haha I've never seen him so casual in my time here with this channel 🙃
I dislike dress codes , but I do like dressing. Dress codes are only cool when everyone follows, but I hate to follow the codes and then see that the owner of the establishment or a "celebrity" is present and has not followed the dresscode.
I hope not. Dress is important to me. Formal wear and dinner wear is still an opportunity to rise to the best a man can be
Dress Code is a must for me.....Appearance is very important for me and I like to be set apart from most people when I go out...that's me...
dress code thrives in regimented, strict hierarchical society (religious, military, work/business, royalty, conservative Eastern ethnics).
I would argue that dress codes actually still exist, and are still exclusionary, but now they’re unspoken so it’s even more difficult to meet them.
In my workplace for instance, there’s no resource you can find on how to dress. You can wear classic business wear or be super casual and no one will say anything. But I would argue that the people who dress nicer probably are better off in the long-run. It would probably be easier for everyone if we just had a clear dress code for the office.
Also, I’ve been denied entry into restaurants a few times for being dressed too casually. Never felt offended. I’d rather be denied entry than go in and be grossly underdressed.
"Its not really a code, more of a guide..."
The crux of the problem is that very few people have clothes made by a tailor or dressmaker anymore, before the Second World War most people had their clothing made or at least altered to fit them, specifically the wearer, which not only ensured that people looked good in any of their garments but it also allowed for personal expression. Men's formal attire has been ossified since the First World War and the ensuing of the Depression and WWII with the associated cost growth of properly fitted formal attire combined with the decline of more specific formal events had completely prevented evolution of the said formal ware. Not forgetting going to the tailor would also be men's primary source of the newest fashion, fabric and the appropriate clothing for the upcoming event.
It’ll always be here! Just not as prevalent and or mainstream. But more niche, focused and respected among those who care.
I don't think dress codes should die but don't mind changing some things. I don't care for things like suit jackets since I find other jackets so much cooler. Instead, I have a good amount of tailored leathers/suede jackets from saint laurent balmain and prorsum that I wear daily in addition to shearlings and longcoats. In addition, I mainly wear cashmeres/wool sweaters since I don't care for buttons up shirts since more maintenance. I do think things like hoodies flip flops shorts and sweatpants should not be allowed to certain functions. I prefer boots much more as well like chelseas/jodphurs/santiags or the saint laurent wyatt. A fitted perfecto/cafe racer will always look cooler than a suit jacket imo.
@10:15 If you are the person hosting the event and post a "dress code" That is what's expected. I attended several events for the PA Army National Guard. The final Meal of the event stated 'Evening Mess' & those that did not meet standards stood in the outer hall or left the building. What is so hard about that?
I absolutely started to tell people that I let my facial hair grow a bit and left the product out of my hair when I dress casual as well.
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*Absolutely Not! In my country the Philippines, dress code are strictly implemented in Government agencies (e.g Hall of Justice, Congress and Presidential Palace) and Private meetings.*
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Regarding why dress codes seem confusing I think the variety of garments has also increased. There are shirt with far more patterns and even fabrics nowadays for example.
Some dress codes are designed to be expensive. White tie is a perfect example. White tie means you need a tailored suit. That being said, white tie also means that traditional wear is permitted. Basically it's also surprisingly inclusive. Black tie is also quite expensive. You still need a tailored suit....although it won't be as expensive as a white tie suit.
I will admit one thing. Dress codes can act as an equaliser.
Most people don't own a tuxedo (black tie) so a black tie optional would be the best option out there.
Most people never did have white tie and black tie suits. Most events for most people never had these suits. This is a fact that people that think of the "golden age" of men's wear forget. Things haven't changed too much.
Let's hope Preston's wife doesn't get mad at him for wearing a silver wedding band. Wedding rings and bands aren't changed.
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The Vieux riche vs Nouveau riche, Etiqutte vs rude & no manners, Proper attire vs Trendy/Flashy, Basiclly You can't buy class, it is an acquired trait. The way we dress and present ourselfs is the first visual clue that seperates the stratum.
Personally, I feel dress codes should continue as time continues. A place for everything and everything in its place.
Dress codes are vastly important. Granted it’s not an issue at my church, I’ve seen churches where people wear literally tshirts and shorts. While I don’t think wearing a complete suit is always necessary in church, I think there’s other great options too of which I’d love to expand into, it’s not a bad look either. Culturally even in the US it is different have to remember too. Down south in texas jeans and boots, and such can be considered a higher dress than casual. But again that’s regional. Overall I think dress codes need to be brought more as a standard practice. I don’t understand why people don’t want to present themselves well these days
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Did Raphael write Buckingham Palace a condolence letter?
Here in Nicaragua, only some people wear jackets or suits to the National Theater, and around half of the People attendong wear only casual clothes, would it be out of place going to a place like this in Black Tie attire?
The problem with the discussion isn't the subject. It's the fact that defining the dress codes provides nice shortcuts to people not "in the social loop" as to how to dress to be acceptable for something. However, the purpose from those who set the rules is try to separate those in "the know" from those not in the know or in that "group".
As ways of dress evolve, that will continue to be the case. But the social headache will remain and sometimes you just have to make your best guess and fail embarrasingly and adjust accordingly. And though the hosts should figure it out, you as a guest should also find a way to get in contact with others and challenge on what the dress code really means.
The example I give was not reading the casual dress code correctly of a summer engagement party I went to once in Long Island somewhere. I showed up in cargo shorts, polo with a big logo, and a 59fifty baseball hat (color to match) not realizing how off from the norms it was, despite casual fabrics being called for. While I partially concluded that I definitely was not from that world, I think that was the moment I started to pay attention a lot better to subtle dress codes. (Luckily it was an event with family and there was enough going on that it was only me who felt the embarrassment of what I did).
Definitely not. The whole casualization of outfits is a rather apparent illustration on how we as a society have lost respect to others and put more focus on ourselves. Most of the trends today are all about "personal comfort". In Malaysia where I'm from, you can find people who thinks it's acceptable to attend a funeral, yes a funeral, in jeans and t-shirt. And that is sadly for quite a big portion of the citizens here. Walk into a funeral parlor and you will see a worrying amount of denim. It's tragic to see that we have reached a state where our own comfort is more important than paying proper respect to the dead.
As we have somehow lost the idea that the way we dress is a matter of respect and decorum to the place, occasion and the people we are meeting, dress codes should NEVER die. Not only that, we should educate people on how important it is to show the proper respect people deserve with our clothing and that is the reason why dress codes exist in the first place.
Some may argue that dress codes are inherently classist, and although it is true historically I don't think the classist argument still holds up. Almost every working man can now afford at least a set of clothing that is presentable, sharp, and formal enough for a wedding, funeral or any important event to be used at a moment's notice unlike decades or centuries ago where everything has to be tailored specifically for a person. So long live the dress code.
blame it on the freedom of expression value cherished by modern Western culture.
Big agree.
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They where completely right to refuse her, what where she thinking?
A lack of a dress code is itself a dress code and like most things, a lack of a specific dress code will go away too and dress codes will come back again.
Dress code please.
I am not exactly someone who has the chance to dress up... But I still try and dress decently, and dress codes are good guidelines.
And whoever wears a hat with a swearword on it at a fancy restaurant is a fool. We should try and have them do it at the restaurant "La Parolaccia" in Rome: the entertainment is Roman-style cussing from quick-witted waiters (the establishment's name even means "The Swearword", so you know exactly what the staff will do), and it would be amusing to see what they'd do to such an individual.
Dress Codes should be required for E V E R Y T H I N G.... F O R E V E R ... It's so depressing and appalling to go out and about and people are wearing almost nothing or swearing ragged pajamas or sweats they've had in their closet for 10 years.
The classic, defined, dress codes, that is, not this new-fangled "you do you" nonsense.
Just my personal opinion, dress codes need to be more used and suggested. The idea and sight of the pants OVER PRICED ripped up is completely tacky. However I do agree with the freedom of people wearing what they want but please respect yourself and others.
My office has a dress code. Suits are no longer required. It is business casual. This is defined as shirts with collars, casual pants and shoes etc. No shirts without collars, sweat pants, jeans, beach wear (Thank God), sneakers and the like.
No it doesn't. By the way how are things going with your music Preston? I use to enjoy performing in my band concerts so I can definitely understand your passion for it. Also when you wear sweaters over collared shirts can they both be the same size? Thanks for the fascinating content as always.
No, they should be everywere.
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The rule is always that if you can dress as Prof. Harold Hill, you should.
So as a band master/drum major?
@@Egilhelmson After-all, 76 trombones led the big parade!
Why wouldn't you want to look your best? There is a big hate on neck ties, I don't get it, a nice tie with the right knot is like a power up in Mario for me. In business few people wear ties in my industry - drives me a little crazy.
‘Fine clothes serve to procure respect, for want of other means’…….Samuel Johnson….18th century English philosopher. Or….look at how King Charles the third dresses; always correctly for every occasion……an amusing conundrum.
Hopefully not. Dress pro be pro
My only frustration with dress codes is people are too vague. There’s an appropriate dress code for each occasion and I just wish people made the effort to find out exactly which one it is. Getting an invitation with two options for dress code is so frustrating especially if you are overdressed in comparison to others.
I am a classical musician by training, so "be the hero of your own musical adventure" would mean exactly one thing: impeccably executed white tie. End of story :)
I personally believe that black tie and white tie are part of a certain cultural capital. One does not necessarily have to use them, but one should know how to do them. And if one is going to do them at all, one should of course do them right.
On the other hand, I also believe that there are ways of doing jeans and cowboy boots that are suitable for dinner at an elegant restaurant and a night out at the opera. Now admittedly, for a man they are quite edgy and, shall we say, very androgynous. But it can be done :)
It implies standards, civility and respect all of which are in short supply these days.
Hey! What happened to the Black Guy?