This confirms what I’ve long suspected. New Austin wasn’t the only area that got shafted. Amberino was probably going to have another settlement that was cut for time. If I were to hazard a guess the prologue was originally going to be much longer.
I think the prologue was to have started back in Blackwater, where you could have explored the entire map of the first game (Including Nuevo Paraíso, they even did a remake of the theme songs for it, and Arthur is seen in New Austin in one of the trailers) but because of time they probably cut that whole part of the game, and put New Austin off limits at the start, but well this is just my theory 🙂 I wish we could have gotten Nuevo Paraíso and at very least a town with some life in Ambarino... There’s not even a reason to go there
@@FreeAimDog Not only that, there’s versions of the New Austin drawings for both John and Arthur, and there’s even dialogue for the bone hunting mission to bo completed for Arthur, but no voiceovers for said mission, so I think New Austin was going to be explorable but later they changed it for unknown reasons 😅
I think when all the employees started bitching about being overworked they decided to cut a bunch of shit so as not to have make yet one more delay for the game leading to a whole litany of stuff being chopped from the game.
There’s a theory that Tempest Rim was originally going to be the Chapter 1 camp rather than Colter, since one of the old beta maps show that Colter doesn’t exist but Tempest Rim is a gang camp. They probably moved the camp at chapter 1 to Colter which is why there’s still a lot at Tempest Rim.
The quickest way up there is getting drunk at the left side of the porter property. There is some horse nearby. There is more interesting landscape up there. I'm spending more time out of the map, rather than inside !!!
I almost threw my controller out the window trying to get there. You'd be riding up a 20 degree incline and your horse would be scripted to slip and stumble back down.
hard to imagine but probably late in development we lost the actual grizzlies section. shouldve just delayed it. I miss the old mountain setup. theres a buncha missions in horseshoe overlook that were originally for the grizzlies. Like hosea's grizzly bear mission id assume. Think about it! O'Creagh's run used to be waaay in the grizzlies! sigh
I believe there was going to be a village up there near the Adler ranch like a mining village but bigger than Colter and active. And the natives would have more reservations up here
I don't know why, but I really get the feeling the Tempest area was probably going to be where you could discover the frozen neanderthal. Maybe even in what could have been a cave at 4:55
Has any game, which is so brilliant, ever left such a feeling of "what could it have been" if they didn't cave to pressure and instead put another year into it's development.
I have also found another big trail in tempest rim in the middle of Adler ranch and cairn lake. If you draw a line between these to places. A little bit east is a long wide, well detailed trail.
The community behind cut RDR2 stuff is so unbelievably chill. Love every one of these videos, comments are always so entertaining as well. One of my favorite channels on RUclips for sure
Late comment, but my guess is that this was a scrapped location for the mission retrieve John in the beginning of the game. Perhaps the devs moved the location, leaving this area to gather dust? Great video tho man, your channel is super underrated.
virtualsarah no it’s not that part is father when you play that mission look at your location and you can still go to that place and it’s nowhere near tempest
Honestly I don't get the point to hide some beautiful areas. The path at 6:00 look much fun and even more interesting than accesible area. Sometimes seems Rockstar wants to steal real fun same as empty New Austin wich has no sense to me.
Karen says that she is happy to be off that "mountain" maybe originally she was refering to the tempest rim plataue moutain it feels like that dialogue makes more sense now.
I hope they add it in a future DLC, Ambarino is very empty and the only settlements there are abandoned (Wapiti only at the end of the game, but anyway there ain't much to do there)
I feel like it would’ve been much cooler for Micah and Dutch to be holed up deep in tempest rim instead of mount hagen in the epilogue. With all the treacherous, winding paths it would’ve been much more dangerous I feel.
@@pedinhuh16 Absolutely and it was predictable from the lauch of the game... It is really disappointing. GTA V and RDR2 have the potential for great single-player DLCs, but all that matters is online and its patches ... Single-player seems to have become a demo for online now *sad*
@@BasementGamerBros Yep, pretty much expected that. Idk why they wouldn't detail an iconic location from the first game. Same with Coot's Chapel and Rathskeller Fork i'm assuming
Colter was originally supposed to be in tempist rim, then they cut it, then they also cut a introduction chapter which would have covered the chase away from blackwater, amberino was gonna be alot bigger.
This was a beta camp which was overlooked on initial console release. They quickly patched it out fairly early on. If you have a save file in that camp though, from back then, you will still spawn there when loading in. If you have the disc version of the game v1.00, then you can still create a save there before updating the game. Easy way to get out of the map without glitches.
Trying to explore temest rim and the glaciers was essentially the first thing i did in RDR2 and it disappointed me, game has been great otherwise, but its kinda strange how much cut content there is in the starting area
I would pay good money for a dlc with all the cut content from both RDR games hell Vice city too lol but this video was great dude, can someone explain to me what the story behind tempest rim is? And what other areas like this are there? This is very interesting I wana know about all the cut content
You can no longer get to the secret camp unless you have version 1.00 of the game without updating it. It was probably made before the map boundaries were finalised. They forgot to remove it, so you spawn in the camp in Tempest Rim which is now out of bounds.
So this is strange so i started a new game and right in the beginning i mark the map turns out its a path that takes place outside the map. So with a glitch i tried to revisit this spot but when i got there it was just a huge steep mountain in its place not at alll where the cutscene showed them
There's a lake to the west of the glacier outside the map. Maybe that's the one you heard of? The leaked map of 2016 also had lakes in different places compared to the final game.
You used to be able to camp here on the original game, before they patched it out. If you have the original vanilla game disc, from release, you might still be able to do it.
@@BasementGamerBros Are you still working on a way to get there again? I want to go in online mode if possible. You can cross right to the Guarma area on horse if you can get all the way around the map and go up the invisible mountain. Have you seen it yet?
@@BasementGamerBros I think if I were able to get around the cliff area and above it, we were able to get to the tree spot, but we went too far ahead and got black screened. If we made it all the way around, I will try it tonight I suppose.
You can still get to this part of the map in online if you exit the map. You can get there from the northern outter map. Guarma is a different story altogether lol.
@@BasementGamerBros I met a guy that has been there before after the patch. I don't know if Guarma has been moved on the map? Someone said it's been placed south under Mexico? I don't know yet. We will keep searching
And this is the bad thing about rushing games instead of taking their time completing the game they just want to rush the game without even being finished and I hate that they say console limitations cuz I'm pretty sure our tech can run it we have more powerful tech then ever and it's gonna keep getting better so they should just take their time and complete everything. The same thing happened with Mexico aswell the game was rushed amd they did finish.
I have been trying a few new ways to get out of the map. Feel like I am close, lol will see. Would love to meet up online . Htrackart online if you want some exploring posse
I posted a video of the hidden camp and way out of the map many months ago, before the patch. This video was more about the paths in the unreachable areas.
I have. But I used the sliding glitch across to Mexico. Which was fine cos I got to explore around the northern part of New Austin and west of West Elizabeth. The view of Aurora Basin and Lake Owanjila from up there is really nice. 😀
I have. But I used the sliding glitch across to Mexico. Which was fine cos I got to explore around the northern part of New Austin and west of West Elizabeth. The view of Aurora Basin and Lake Owanjila from up there is really nice. 😀
I have. But I used the sliding glitch across to Mexico. Which was fine cos I got to explore around the northern part of New Austin and west of West Elizabeth. The view of Aurora Basin and Lake Owanjila from up there is really nice. 😀
Rehashed? I never explained the paths in this detail 8 months ago. The camp Is patched, but If you had a save at that camp, It still works, and loads in there. Alternatively you could escape the map North of the Glacier, and get to Tempest Rim that way.
Born too late to explore the world, born too early to explore space, but just in time for rdr2's map
Born just in time to explore this ass bro
@@ElPatron42069 what ass?
@@Marquis-Sade his ass
@@Scared_Yoda Ok. I dont know what this is about anymore but yeah...
This confirms what I’ve long suspected. New Austin wasn’t the only area that got shafted. Amberino was probably going to have another settlement that was cut for time. If I were to hazard a guess the prologue was originally going to be much longer.
I think the prologue was to have started back in Blackwater, where you could have explored the entire map of the first game (Including Nuevo Paraíso, they even did a remake of the theme songs for it, and Arthur is seen in New Austin in one of the trailers) but because of time they probably cut that whole part of the game, and put New Austin off limits at the start, but well this is just my theory 🙂 I wish we could have gotten Nuevo Paraíso and at very least a town with some life in Ambarino... There’s not even a reason to go there
@@machadojoel10 well some of that theory is true since they found madam nazar audio for arthur near great plains.
@@FreeAimDog Not only that, there’s versions of the New Austin drawings for both John and Arthur, and there’s even dialogue for the bone hunting mission to bo completed for Arthur, but no voiceovers for said mission, so I think New Austin was going to be explorable but later they changed it for unknown reasons 😅
I think when all the employees started bitching about being overworked they decided to cut a bunch of shit so as not to have make yet one more delay for the game leading to a whole litany of stuff being chopped from the game.
there was also supposed to be another town between van horn and annesburg.
Looks like Ambarino was going to be way larger, there's even an entire glacier area outside of the map.
Yep, I once found the start of a path that went beyond the glacier, it was inaccessible though.
fun fact you actually go beyond the map in the john rescue mission, its not accessible outside of that mission, and it takes you by that glacier.
its really remarkable how you have explored every minute aspect and detail of this game. i love this channel.
Thanks for dropping in ;)
I got a Guarma donkey all the way back to my camp and now hes my temporary horse .
I couldn't Imagine how annoying that donkey must've been on the ride back😂
Wish rockstar did more with ambarino or the sub land masses beside lemoyne
There’s a theory that Tempest Rim was originally going to be the Chapter 1 camp rather than Colter, since one of the old beta maps show that Colter doesn’t exist but Tempest Rim is a gang camp. They probably moved the camp at chapter 1 to Colter which is why there’s still a lot at Tempest Rim.
That's true and is confirmed by data miners, Roger Clark and rockstar you can clearly see it.
The quickest way up there is getting drunk at the left side of the porter property. There is some horse nearby. There is more interesting landscape up there. I'm spending more time out of the map, rather than inside !!!
I'm still getting mad that Tempest Rim is just locked away and so empty. Why have this inside the map but lock it away from access?
I agree entirely. Something should have been done with this...
@@BasementGamerBros let's make a mod
its a big area too
I almost threw my controller out the window trying to get there. You'd be riding up a 20 degree incline and your horse would be scripted to slip and stumble back down.
hard to imagine but probably late in development we lost the actual grizzlies section. shouldve just delayed it. I miss the old mountain setup.
theres a buncha missions in horseshoe overlook that were originally for the grizzlies. Like hosea's grizzly bear mission id assume.
Think about it! O'Creagh's run used to be waaay in the grizzlies! sigh
I believe there was going to be a village up there near the Adler ranch like a mining village but bigger than Colter and active. And the natives would have more reservations up here
I don't know why, but I really get the feeling the Tempest area was probably going to be where you could discover the frozen neanderthal. Maybe even in what could have been a cave at 4:55
Has any game, which is so brilliant, ever left such a feeling of "what could it have been" if they didn't cave to pressure and instead put another year into it's development.
I hate that there are mountains that are inside the map but you cannot clime them, It's a shame how much space this game wasted
tempest rim is the most nonsensical blocked off area because it even has a name on the map yet you can never go there without glitches/exploits
I have also found another big trail in tempest rim in the middle of Adler ranch and cairn lake. If you draw a line between these to places. A little bit east is a long wide, well detailed trail.
The community behind cut RDR2 stuff is so unbelievably chill. Love every one of these videos, comments are always so entertaining as well. One of my favorite channels on RUclips for sure
Late comment, but my guess is that this was a scrapped location for the mission retrieve John in the beginning of the game. Perhaps the devs moved the location, leaving this area to gather dust? Great video tho man, your channel is super underrated.
virtualsarah no it’s not that part is father when you play that mission look at your location and you can still go to that place and it’s nowhere near tempest
Does anyone think Ambarino misses a city? The only civilisation there is Wallace station.
Even then, Wallace Station is in West Elizabeth. (Though it was probably originally supposed to be in Ambarino)
@@simonster-9094 weird oversight on Rockstar's part
Honestly I don't get the point to hide some beautiful areas. The path at 6:00 look much fun and even more interesting than accesible area. Sometimes seems Rockstar wants to steal real fun same as empty New Austin wich has no sense to me.
I believe that the mountains at tempest rim would be where Michas gang would be hold up at. or it could've been scrapped content for chapter 1
You are so amazing, these videos are goddam Interesting. And make me want more Singleplayer content. Lots of it
Thanks 👍
@@BasementGamerBros you are very much welcome
Karen says that she is happy to be off that "mountain" maybe originally she was refering to the tempest rim plataue moutain it feels like that dialogue makes more sense now.
I read somewhere (Reddit) that Tempest Rim was supposed to have a major settlement that got cut. Huh
Damn, really wish it didn't get cut.
I hope they add it in a future DLC, Ambarino is very empty and the only settlements there are abandoned (Wapiti only at the end of the game, but anyway there ain't much to do there)
Well, the game is on PC now, we need someone to revive the whole Tempest Rim area in a mod perhaps?
And place something cool there
I feel like it would’ve been much cooler for Micah and Dutch to be holed up deep in tempest rim instead of mount hagen in the epilogue. With all the treacherous, winding paths it would’ve been much more dangerous I feel.
Good to have u back man. Look forward to more content. so close 1k!!
Thanks buddy! :)
How do we know it's something that was scrapped as opposed to something that is coming in the future?
Not totally sure, but what i do know is the paths/routes have been planned out, so there was some development there at some point. :)
I hope it will be something for the future
I'm from the future, no DLCs. R* abandoned this game completely
Just like it happened with GTA 5.
Online is where the easy money is, so it's where R* sets it's sights on.
@@pedinhuh16 Absolutely and it was predictable from the lauch of the game... It is really disappointing. GTA V and RDR2 have the potential for great single-player DLCs, but all that matters is online and its patches ... Single-player seems to have become a demo for online now *sad*
I find it very intresting you can see where the paths got sculpted in on the minimap
theres a legendary moose near tempest rim but it spawns on the lagoon when you get there in online mode.
genius showing the way wirhout showing the starting point on map
5:43 That spot of the map is used in one of the trailers iirc
Have you tried getting into the tumbleweed mansion?
I have, It's an empty space unfortunately :(
@@BasementGamerBros Yep, pretty much expected that. Idk why they wouldn't detail an iconic location from the first game. Same with Coot's Chapel and Rathskeller Fork i'm assuming
The church has a interior
@@ijustwantmyphonecall6947 and the ridgewood farm barn and house. Nothing to do there now
@@karentjuhh101 yup. New Austin is pointless in this game
Colter was originally supposed to be in tempist rim, then they cut it, then they also cut a introduction chapter which would have covered the chase away from blackwater, amberino was gonna be alot bigger.
i cant wrap my head around why is it inaccessible? its like never unlocking the third island in gta 4 even after finishing the game.
I got to Tempest Rim from inside the map. Drunk, near Flaco Hernandez cabin
If you don't mind me asking, what is the music used in this video? It's awesome.
How did you set up the camp outside the boundaries?
This was a beta camp which was overlooked on initial console release. They quickly patched it out fairly early on. If you have a save file in that camp though, from back then, you will still spawn there when loading in. If you have the disc version of the game v1.00, then you can still create a save there before updating the game. Easy way to get out of the map without glitches.
gotta love it when they dont even show us the map first
Trying to explore temest rim and the glaciers was essentially the first thing i did in RDR2 and it disappointed me, game has been great otherwise, but its kinda strange how much cut content there is in the starting area
I would pay good money for a dlc with all the cut content from both RDR games hell Vice city too lol but this video was great dude, can someone explain to me what the story behind tempest rim is? And what other areas like this are there? This is very interesting I wana know about all the cut content
Great video. But did i miss something?? How do i get to the secret camp site ???
You can no longer get to the secret camp unless you have version 1.00 of the game without updating it. It was probably made before the map boundaries were finalised. They forgot to remove it, so you spawn in the camp in Tempest Rim which is now out of bounds.
Basement Gamer Bros dang ok. I just saw this video uploaded this 4 months ago. I didnt know if you had another way :/
So this is strange so i started a new game and right in the beginning i mark the map turns out its a path that takes place outside the map. So with a glitch i tried to revisit this spot but when i got there it was just a huge steep mountain in its place not at alll where the cutscene showed them
I recently made a video about the hidden intro cutscene map, you should check it out 👍
@@BasementGamerBros btw sorry about the novel haha
Did you use a ju06a in the music for this? That preset with the noise is a real match lol
Hiw did you get your horse there? I'm at tempest rim at moment but horse can't reach me lol
i heard tempest rim has a lake but i cant find it
There's a lake to the west of the glacier outside the map. Maybe that's the one you heard of?
The leaked map of 2016 also had lakes in different places compared to the final game.
How did you set up a camp there? Horse will slide down when i attempt to run up the hill
You used to be able to camp here on the original game, before they patched it out. If you have the original vanilla game disc, from release, you might still be able to do it.
No i downloaded the game 6 months ago from ps store
Ah, well I guess you can't get that camp spot anymore, sadly.
Do you think you can get off the map this way in online mode?
Not in online, but it works in single player. The camp is longer available though, R* patched that camp spot.
@@BasementGamerBros Are you still working on a way to get there again? I want to go in online mode if possible. You can cross right to the Guarma area on horse if you can get all the way around the map and go up the invisible mountain. Have you seen it yet?
@@BasementGamerBros I think if I were able to get around the cliff area and above it, we were able to get to the tree spot, but we went too far ahead and got black screened. If we made it all the way around, I will try it tonight I suppose.
You can still get to this part of the map in online if you exit the map. You can get there from the northern outter map. Guarma is a different story altogether lol.
@@BasementGamerBros I met a guy that has been there before after the patch. I don't know if Guarma has been moved on the map? Someone said it's been placed south under Mexico? I don't know yet. We will keep searching
Use rampage trainer and spawn a vehicle and use vehicle so to see if they were real
And this is the bad thing about rushing games instead of taking their time completing the game they just want to rush the game without even being finished and I hate that they say console limitations cuz I'm pretty sure our tech can run it we have more powerful tech then ever and it's gonna keep getting better so they should just take their time and complete everything. The same thing happened with Mexico aswell the game was rushed amd they did finish.
Welcome back bro!!👏🏼
You know Columbus was rite the world is flat I fell off the map
i did too and then i spawned at guarma in single player when i was going into mexico
I have been trying a few new ways to get out of the map. Feel like I am close, lol will see. Would love to meet up online . Htrackart online if you want some exploring posse
Cool, I'll add you ;)
@@BasementGamerBrosNice
This was already done, but was patched. Unless you uninstall the game.
I posted a video of the hidden camp and way out of the map many months ago, before the patch. This video was more about the paths in the unreachable areas.
Oh, ok.
Has anyone gone to Tempest Rim in RDO?
I think I've passed through it, but not really stopped to look at anything in particular. That's a good point though, some things could be different.
I have. But I used the sliding glitch across to Mexico. Which was fine cos I got to explore around the northern part of New Austin and west of West Elizabeth. The view of Aurora Basin and Lake Owanjila from up there is really nice. 😀
I have. But I used the sliding glitch across to Mexico. Which was fine cos I got to explore around the northern part of New Austin and west of West Elizabeth. The view of Aurora Basin and Lake Owanjila from up there is really nice. 😀
I have. But I used the sliding glitch across to Mexico. Which was fine cos I got to explore around the northern part of New Austin and west of West Elizabeth. The view of Aurora Basin and Lake Owanjila from up there is really nice. 😀
Welcome back
Thanks! :)
Explore colter from the first game
Colter wasn't in the first game, the out of bounds area where it would have been is just flat unrendered land
How do you get to that area?
I have a save game in the camp from before it was patched. You can still reach it via north of Tempest Rim from outside of the map.
Ok, I will have to try that way.
@@BasementGamerBros Could you just use the outside the map New Paradise glitch to follow the map up north?
Yet hthat has been patched and you never show how to get to the rim area...LAME!!!! rehashed video edit from 8 months ago...
Rehashed? I never explained the paths in this detail 8 months ago. The camp Is patched, but If you had a save at that camp, It still works, and loads in there. Alternatively you could escape the map North of the Glacier, and get to Tempest Rim that way.
Can we play online together my username is “HeyMrCarter1” can we play together plz I would love it
Do you play on Xbox or Playstation?
Playstation, and yeah sure! :)
Basement Gamer Bros Ok what’s your username? 🤠🐎