If frame data wasn't dlc at cost maybe we'd have figured this out. Didn't even know jabs could float when you force your opponent in standing minus frames, I never would have tried a jab after this no matter how many times I worked up the courage to try Miguel more.
The amount of times I got full combo'd by this and thinking "HOW TF DO I DEAL WITH THIS" will finally come to a stop thanks to these Tekken tips vids. Loving the content 👌🏽
Yeah I’ve gotten comboed a few time after that wake up, I always thought I messed up and never new that’s how it works. Keep these videos coming they are useful as hell.
I knew this a long time ago. As im both a yoshi n a claudio main. The advantage on block increases depending on the distance the rolling cross chop was blocked at. It can get as high as plus 18 at furthest of distance. I Don't think u can get a full launch though but the jab float is still guaranteed
In Tekken tag 1 days , after the cross chop, down jabs are guarantees and it will make the opponent float. Also, if you do running cross chop with strict timing that will on opponent shins, it will also guarantee a jab.
Explains alot why players that use these characters use the cross chop alot on wake up. Especially Paul , Yoshi and Miguel players. Good info to know!!
@@TekkenStudent the thing is it's better to get hit on purpose then to block it which is kinda dumb. "Hey get hit by this move on purpose because if you block it I get a full combo" like what
thank you!!!! i tried to lab this shit but prob chose the wrong character thinking everyone had access to this damn chop and it just NEVER made sense why was i getting hit!!
Hello, today I learned this interesting fact pluss another about "toe kick". Toe kick has different frames when blocked depending on the charactere kicking. Chloe -18 Lidia -20 Lars -16 Thanks
I just find it fascinating that an odd choice of characters have access to this move in particular. Like what makes the devs say that characters like Kuni, Marduk and Claudio for an example get this move but Jin, Julia or King for an example don't? It's not like all the mentioned characters share a similar moveset hahaha
Therefore they dont have normal or special spring kick which is better in my oponion cause much faster and instant low cruch. Its just a variety of wakeup options to give them identity.
Cuz their version gets off the ground faster as a tradeoff but dosent give block advantage and on hit gives knockdown. King gets a special version of this very much like eddy which turns him around but is otherwise pretty decent frame wise and can have its own setups
i discovered this on yoshi and my friend was malding over and over when he couldn't block my jab after it xdd i wish jin had it too cuz he's the next character i picked up xd
@@VarbuKoopix Yeah. I remember the first time I learned about this and thought... Oh wow, this is kinda cool. Fun fact. This existed in older games. Specifically, Tekken 6. Yoshimitsu, Marduk, Paul, and probably a few others who has this cross chop get up option that leads to a combo.
@@mkt-7 Does that means when these certain character press 3+4 on wake up they wouldn't be performing spring kick but rolling cross chop instead? Because I've played a bit of Kuni and I think she still did a spring kick if I press 3+4
I've been using this with Paul for shits and giggles in ranked since day one because it looked funny. Found out I could launch on block by accident. Didn't know my secondary Marduk could do it too. Jab floats to wall oki........BRB about to abuse my friends with this🤣
"Why the hell this character has this" is a question I have asked myself a lot when fighting DLC characters like Leroy, Fahk and Kuni. Tekken devs werent sure about what the characters should be so they gave everybody everything and then more
@@joelyfish4216 tekken isn’t such a clear cut game that you can say wanting to get hit by a move (not entirely true you have more than enough time to interrupt or evade) instead of blocking is a design flaw. It’s just a small quirk of the game
Because consecutive 10f jabs can be ducked. They can't press a button but they can block or duck. Set a practise dummy to 10f jab on repeat and if you press down right after getting punched in the face it will duck before the next punch
@@epicon6 The +10 advantage after that wakeup option is true advantage tho, they cannot block a jab after blocking it. The reason they are blocking his jabs might be because that wake up option has more active frames and he's connecting it on early startup frames
You know that it is very reactable you can counter float for a combo ez or sidewalk if you wanna play it safe plus if you get the combo issa float combo i can even say snake edge is better lmao
I don't like how the jab follow up to this move is unlockable. Makes no sense, a Miguel player was catching me with this set-up and i didn't have any idea why my i couldn't block, but now it makes sense...i guess 😒
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It kinda makes sense that big characters will break your guard by throwing themselves at you, but seeing Kunimistu do it is just funny.
You think then you realise how thoughtfully tekken is made. Except some unga bunga here and there
Yeah kuni having it is just fucking dumb. I wonder if it's because yoshi has it too?
Maybe because Kuni can stab you while doing it? I'm just grasping at straws ngl
@@sanicboi9187 She's secretly a several hundred pounds, she just ninjitsu's her weight and body fat or something iunno.
I'm guessing it's a legacy move from when she was more or less a palette swap of Yoshi and they've kept it in there to give her something unique
Wow, I knew the cross chop was really plus on block, but I'd no idea you could actually get a combo off it.
Yup, you can't even duck the 10 frame jab after it.
If frame data wasn't dlc at cost maybe we'd have figured this out. Didn't even know jabs could float when you force your opponent in standing minus frames, I never would have tried a jab after this no matter how many times I worked up the courage to try Miguel more.
So you’ve seriously never eaten the jab float?
@@rdDolphinX there are a few moves that do the same thing. Like Josie f3 on ch I believe, a jab after floats
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The amount of times I got full combo'd by this and thinking "HOW TF DO I DEAL WITH THIS" will finally come to a stop thanks to these Tekken tips vids. Loving the content 👌🏽
I seriously have to wonder who thought as wakeup option that's more rewarding on block than on hit was a good idea.
It was a great idea, so funny
These clips are super helpful and easy to digest. More of this! 😊
Yeah I’ve gotten comboed a few time after that wake up, I always thought I messed up and never new that’s how it works.
Keep these videos coming they are useful as hell.
Holy shit, THANK YOU. I got eliminated by a Kunimitsu at my last local that did this and I couldn't figure out what was going on.
Real tekken gamers knows this. Thanks for sharing.
Why are you revealing Miguel's secret launcher? 😂
I knew this a long time ago. As im both a yoshi n a claudio main.
The advantage on block increases depending on the distance the rolling cross chop was blocked at. It can get as high as plus 18 at furthest of distance.
I Don't think u can get a full launch though but the jab float is still guaranteed
Especially good on Claudio because even the float combo gives starburst
0:42 ah yes, classic Tekken 1 game plan against King
In Tekken tag 1 days , after the cross chop, down jabs are guarantees and it will make the opponent float.
Also, if you do running cross chop with strict timing that will on opponent shins, it will also guarantee a jab.
You exposed the one trick we Gigas mains tried to keep sacred. Now we're really gonna go extinct lol
THIS IS THE ONE I NEEDED. Thank you Arya!
I knew this 20 years ago… I’m glad ppl are catching up tho 👍🏼
Amazing video as always 👌
This has literally had me in fits of rage many times - it’s so dumb.
Glad I finally know how to deal with it...
Some Marduk was cheesing me with this the other day. I was pulling my hairs out. "I didn't fucking press!!!" 😂
Explains alot why players that use these characters use the cross chop alot on wake up. Especially Paul , Yoshi and Miguel players. Good info to know!!
This has to be the stupidest move in the game. I can't think of any other move where it's far better to get hit by it than to block it.
reminds me of tekken 1 king
I guess the trade off is it's so slow, if you get hit with it, you deserved it lol.
Spring Kick's that recover backturned are dumber than this.
yoshimitsu u/f+3+4, b+1, you better get hit with because thats -43, on block its -1 or neutral
@@TekkenStudent the thing is it's better to get hit on purpose then to block it which is kinda dumb. "Hey get hit by this move on purpose because if you block it I get a full combo" like what
Of course Paul has it
I remember doing this with Jin
I don't know whether i am tripping or was it just a glitch but i sure did pull this off as him
Maybe it's the running 1+2?
My too I play only Mishima characters and I’m sure I did it couple times I don’t remember if that was with Jin or dj or maybe both but I did it
I think you can press 1+2 and get it when you roll forward on the ground
2nd time hoping that TBS will make a Miguel guide 🙏
Bumping for Miguel
Miguel mains 😂👎🏾
Boo this man@@MK-vi2cm
thank you!!!! i tried to lab this shit but prob chose the wrong character thinking everyone had access to this damn chop and it just NEVER made sense why was i getting hit!!
Yoshi players use the tech a lot
Hello, today I learned this interesting fact pluss another about "toe kick". Toe kick has different frames when blocked depending on the charactere kicking.
Chloe -18
Lidia -20
Lars -16
Thanks
What's toe kick
@@Scorpio7500 when you are on the ground feet forward face up and do that little kick. d+4 i think
@@maddinkn ohh gotcha AK also has a move called toe kick so I was confused lol
What's this, TBS making Tekken videos? Shocker.
finally i got an explanation i couldnt understand what was going on. I thought it was my controller
I was getting cheesed hard by a Paul main a while ago spamming that into a jab into a combo, every time he's on the ground
And idk what to do with it
I am Paul main. And I never knew this
This is really helpful, I didn't know this
A move that is better being hit by vs block. Such a tekken thing to do.
Eddy also has this move and he can do it from relax!
I thought my roommate was pressing my keys cause we both playing on 2 keyboards offline didn't know this one is plus on block
If you block the cross chop you can also duck after it hits to avoid the jab.
no its impossible, you are stunned for 10 frames and the jab is 10 frame. Its a guaranteed guard break.
@@djmj1000 No it's not. Paul is my main and I've had players who knew the set up evade the jab by ducking it.
@@TheTrueNarthumpulous online shit
@@TheTrueNarthumpulous then you were too slow. You can't avoid the jab if it's done fast enough
You can’t duck it
I thought only yoshimitsu was the one able to do this
Don't forget to mention the startup looks like a [whatever you call it. Spring kick, I think] kick.
I just find it fascinating that an odd choice of characters have access to this move in particular. Like what makes the devs say that characters like Kuni, Marduk and Claudio for an example get this move but Jin, Julia or King for an example don't?
It's not like all the mentioned characters share a similar moveset hahaha
Therefore they dont have normal or special spring kick which is better in my oponion cause much faster and instant low cruch. Its just a variety of wakeup options to give them identity.
Cuz their version gets off the ground faster as a tradeoff but dosent give block advantage and on hit gives knockdown. King gets a special version of this very much like eddy which turns him around but is otherwise pretty decent frame wise and can have its own setups
@@eproductions5115 yeah kings is faster, but if it gets blocked, the opponent gets a free backthrow/ backturned launch
i discovered this on yoshi and my friend was malding over and over when he couldn't block my jab after it xdd i wish jin had it too cuz he's the next character i picked up xd
It also gives a grounded followup
So that's why I was getting comboed after the cross chop, jesus christ.
As a Yoshimitsu player, it's fun landing this on players who doesn't know about this. xD
screw you, I got abused by yoshi's with this up until now :D
@@VarbuKoopix Let me give you a tip.
You either let it hit you, or bait it out. It's way better to let it hit oyu instead of blocking it. xD
@@AngeloGene oh I don't need a tip anymore, I just was surprised that this shit worked somehow and I didn't know it was character specific
@@VarbuKoopix Yeah. I remember the first time I learned about this and thought... Oh wow, this is kinda cool.
Fun fact. This existed in older games. Specifically, Tekken 6. Yoshimitsu, Marduk, Paul, and probably a few others who has this cross chop get up option that leads to a combo.
Like Soulcalibur, there are wall attacks and so much more in Tekken LOL But this is good.
What is the input for the rolling cross chop?
same as spring kick 3+4
3+4
@@mkt-7 Does that means when these certain character press 3+4 on wake up they wouldn't be performing spring kick but rolling cross chop instead?
Because I've played a bit of Kuni and I think she still did a spring kick if I press 3+4
@@muhdazhad04 Kuni main here she does not have a spring kick, she has rolling cross chop.
@@rowelljrdetorres1512 I got it wrong 😅 thank you for confirming it
I didnt think it was us 10 on block but thqt explains my easier.to follow up demolition man with paul only for them to get deathfisted into the wall.
Paul can avoid the follow up jab with his f+1+4
at minus 10 and jabs come out at 10f he can avoid it? Doubt
Thanks man
Why does +10 give you guaranteed jab float here but other moves that even gives over + 30 they can still block ? Like Feng's ch df1?
cant u duck the jab ?
Is it guaranteed? Can you not duck the following jab string?
This a yoshi staple lol
So you can't block the followups from the RCC anymore?
So close to 100K subs
spring kicks and front rolls are stupid anyway. half the time makes the character invincible or unpunishable with some off axis bs.
I broke my controller when i saw asuka wasnt on the list like wtf, i just cant be happy 😭😭
Question is how do you do it
I mean... I always blocked it and I have never ever seen anyone do this to me
What's the command on that wakeup?
kuni also has this for some reason
Or you can power crush through it
You can avoid the floating jab by side stepping after blocking it. Not side walk, side step.
No you can't
@@NenaWednesdays tell that to the amount of times I and few of my opponents did
They need to get rid of that bullshit. I hate getting hit with the follow up jab.
looks like from T3 :)
eh yohh mah man gigas in there!!
I've been using this with Paul for shits and giggles in ranked since day one because it looked funny. Found out I could launch on block by accident. Didn't know my secondary Marduk could do it too. Jab floats to wall oki........BRB about to abuse my friends with this🤣
What’s the command for it? I’ve pressed F1+2 then 1 to jab in but it never floats them. They just block it.
@@xmight69x I just press 1+2 during the end of the roll and jab
Why the heck kuni have this?
"Why the hell this character has this" is a question I have asked myself a lot when fighting DLC characters like Leroy, Fahk and Kuni. Tekken devs werent sure about what the characters should be so they gave everybody everything and then more
It not a good option. You would rather have springkick than this one. This move have a huge risk due to it being so slow in the startup.
Because she need that 😂
@@ufi125 true. Sometimes you need the cheap low crush
Cuz cute
Knew it already
Negan has this too, no?
Isn’t it a bit of a design flaw that you’d rather get hit by the move than take it on block
its only one move
design flaw ??? lmaoo relax
Yes it is. Not sure why the two above hate that phrase so much. It is a small one, but by definition, you're right.
@@joelyfish4216 tekken isn’t such a clear cut game that you can say wanting to get hit by a move (not entirely true you have more than enough time to interrupt or evade) instead of blocking is a design flaw. It’s just a small quirk of the game
@@gioro98 it’s Saturday morning and I have a coffee in my hand watching that blasted salami
I couldn’t be more relaxed
My only question is why!
Can you jab float this? Or just a generic 13f df1 would work?
Yea. Any hit before their hitbox activates can float it.
@@mdbr2 i think jabs will get crush the better option is to mid poke
Beat option is a fast mid like df1 but you can side step or power crush it if you want
Why sometimes they can duck the jab even though I mashed my 10f jab?
Could be a high. Or high-mid.
Because consecutive 10f jabs can be ducked. They can't press a button but they can block or duck.
Set a practise dummy to 10f jab on repeat and if you press down right after getting punched in the face it will duck before the next punch
@@epicon6 The +10 advantage after that wakeup option is true advantage tho, they cannot block a jab after blocking it. The reason they are blocking his jabs might be because that wake up option has more active frames and he's connecting it on early startup frames
doesn't king also do this?
Its duckable after hit?
So if you block the move it makes the jab unblockable???? That's weird af 🤣
Paul as a judo fighter should have cancel into takle... XD
love this move lol
So Im a Steve main, I do this all the time, I though everyone can do it lol
How do you even do it, is it just 1+2?
3+4 on specific characters listed in the vid, chars who aren't in the list does a generic spring kick
What are the inputs?!?!
3+4
It's basically a gimmicky replacement for the generic spring kick everyone else has
I found out the hard way
Yoshi player blow me up today with it
wut da song
sweet
hands down dumbest thing in Tekken 7
guaranteed jab float ????? wtfffff
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F*ck! I was hoping to see Lee on the list
I love this game but shit like this is ridiculously cheesy and unintuitive. You don't need moves/wakeup options like this to make the game deep.
This is the only move that i refuse to use it for most of the time. Its so cheap and i hate it
You know that it is very reactable you can counter float for a combo ez or sidewalk if you wanna play it safe plus if you get the combo issa float combo i can even say snake edge is better lmao
Shhhhh, don't...
NEVER DO THIS. I WILL FIND YOU. I WILL COME DOWN ON YOU. THE MIGHT OF THE KING OF IRON FIST TOURNAMENT WILL BE YOUR RUIN!
I don't like how the jab follow up to this move is unlockable. Makes no sense, a Miguel player was catching me with this set-up and i didn't have any idea why my i couldn't block, but now it makes sense...i guess 😒
Steve and Kuni don't fit among these weirdos at all.
Lmao stupid move that you prefer of getting hit instead of block it.
everything wrong with tekken!
This is genuinely one of the worst things in this game and it's made me think of quitting Tekken more than just once
Just sidewalk it.
That's a bit of an exaggeration, don't you think?
@@YourArgumentIsInvali ik most ppl do
The move is used so rarely that it’s basically like a unicorn lol
@@sieg.4444 not if you constantly apply heavy pressure like me. I see it too often
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