You're right man! I know if I had a lift I would NEVER want a rub! You gotta have the right wheel and tire set up! One that actually fits your lift lol.
Morning Rob. I’ve the ICON Stage 8 suspension 2.5” lift , added leaf pak in the rear, with 285/75 Toyo RT’s on 16” wheels. But my truck is used Offroad. No rubbing due to a cab-mount chop. No rubbing issues.
I have a really basic inexpensive lift on my 2008 Tacoma Sport. I have the Rancho quick lift it the quick lift strut assembly with Rancho shocks. I paid around $600 and it rides great and I have the same tire and rim set up as you do.
I installed bigger tires on my 2017 Tacoma TRD Sport. Stock tire size is 265/65/R17, and I put on 275/70/R17 which lifted my truck just over an inch....nice!! Now, after all the research I did stated that was the biggest tire I could fit on my stock truck without any modifications, any modifications at all. Well, the front tires rub a bit when cranked hard over in reverse only...this to me is not acceptable. So, I'm putting in a lift kit, 2" in the front and 1.5" in the rear. The reputable shop thats doing the work states the OME products are better quality than the TRD Pro 2" lift kit and he guarantees my truck will handle and drive smoother then with the stock suspension. I will update this post once the work is done next week and I take my truck for a test ride. Love your Tacoma videos Rob!
@@RobMotive After lift, the truck handles nicely, hitting the speed bumps in my alley like they are barely there. I still have a bit of a forward stance (which I like), and it sits about an 1.5" higher. So after putting one the bigger tires and the lift, truck is sitting about 2.5" higher. Glad I got this work done.
So, I've been telling you for a while about lifting my Tacoma and all that. Well, I settled on a 2" lift front and 1 in the back, while keeping the 265/70r17 (32's). I do a lot of driving, especially for my fishing and I would hate to spend more money on the gas instead of the bait for fishing lol. But the truck now, which you already saw on Facebook, looks pretty cool and I love it. It is setup for my needs and works for me. I might go with 33's once the truck is paid off. But I will set it up the same way you did to avoid any rubbing stuff. 😀
Before I got my 2022 taco I test drove(and did paperwork) a 2019 with 6” lift and 35’s and let me tell you it was a slug power wise and drove like crap! Sales manager had one with a 3”lift and hair bigger wheels and tires which is perfect in my opinion,but whenever you put bigger wheels and tires it’s harder on everything,brakes,motor,tranny,etc. appreciate your honesty! Have a fantastic day
I have 5100s all around with icon 1.5 rear AAL. No chops, rubs a little bit on full turns when reverse. Noticeable rubs when off roading but nothing to harsh.
Good morning Rob. Great honest review! My wife drives our Tacoma, she likes the look of lifted Tacomas. I tell her its expensive to go all out to properly lift vehicle, lots to cosider. Im going to forward ypur video so ypu can show her what you have learned. Thanks Rob!!
Rob what is your offset on your wheels? I plan on 17x8.5. with a 0° offset. Also going with a wescott design lift design with a larger shock collar in front shocks. Also loce those fuel wheels!
I had a 4/3 lift on my FJ cruiser and was running 34” tires. At full flex the rear tire would rub on the inside of the wheel well. Only at full flex though
Finally received my Bilsteins front and rear shocks, dropping the truck off monday and looking forward to a new look. will wait to see how it looks once completed and then will put 285 70 10 tires. toss up between Wildpeak or rough country. I guess for tires 150 per tire sounds reasonable, but 250 , ouch. i do like the KO2, well we shall see.. thanks for the information.
I’ve watched countless videos on what kind of lift to do on my 21 taco. I’ve come to conclude that it’s just not worth it unless you’re off roaring all the time. I’m just bumping up the tire size to 265/75R/16 and calling it good.
@@Turtlemilk I caved and put on a 2.5 in spacer lift. Wasn’t happy with the slight Baja look so I put a 1.5 in add a leaf in the rear. Now I’m really happy! Looks amazing and zero rub. Frustrating how many options there are and how you can make serious mistakes if you aren’t careful
@@Rollingrock72 deng. I legit just bought a tacoma like 2 weeks ago and now I want to lift this truck up. I don’t even know what “Baja” or “leaf” means lmao
@@Turtlemilk a baja look is when the front end of your truck is higher than the rear. A leaf is an add a leaf to thread spring. People typically add a leaf to their leaf springs to gain some lift and or gain load capacity
I have 18s on mine goodrich t/a with as you call it a hybrid lift system with no rub. Put heavy duty leaf springs and shocks on the back because i haul a scooter and lift with a diamond back bed cover and spare tire in the bed. Ride is pretty good. Gas mileage is another thing but gas mileage is not why i bought a Tacoma.
Maybe someone can help? I have a stock 2006 Tacoma TRD Prerunner 2WD. The shocks are bad and I will be replacing them. Do I need to replace the strut springs or can I use the old ones? Also, What shocks do you recommend for the truck" I am thinking about getting the Bilstein 4600's. If I want to raise the front level Should I use the 5100's? I don't really want a lift, just leveled out.
Eventually I'll probably to the same, think I'll change out the 4600's for 5100's on the rear only to begin with just to see if I can feel any difference..
I had a 09 Holden Colorado and I went to a shop and asked the that I wanted 32inch mud tyres the told me it will be fine couple days later it’s started to run every time I went down my drive way i went back to the shop and they told me I was missing torsion bars which the 09 model never came with $3000 wasted I was 22 back then first and last mistake 😂😂😂 learnt it the hard way I guess
Just got my Tacoma back from the shop today. Went with 3” spacer lift , Icon rebound wheels 0 offset, and 285 /70/17 , Nitto Terra Grappler G2’s. Absolutely no rubbing,, and surprising better ride than I expected. Truck is looking great, thanks for the video’s and information. 👍🏻
I’d like to lift my 2014 Tacoma. We’ll never take it off road as this vehicle will be used as a trade show backdrop. In my situation, would it be better to use blocks and spacers for lift? I don’t want to spend on a suspension lift that will never see off road use. I’m merely wanting the look. What say you?
ReadyLIFT has 2 SST lifts for the Tacoma a 3/2 and a 3/1, the 3/2 levels out a TRD truck, the 3/1 levels out a Non TRD truck. If you install the 3/1 on a TRD Truck then truck sits slightly higher in the front. Do you like that look Rob, or you like it more level?
i got a ‘20 tacoma with 5100 all around, added an add-a-leaf, and front OME coils. does well, but i do rub(285/70/R17) when i off-road. i’m too lazy to trim. it does everything i want and need to do, plus it went up lifted about 2.5 inches. Only knock is i rake a little with my RTT/gear so i’m thinking of upgrading my leaf system soon, and possibly getting beefier shocks but not sure... also, Rob how do you like 6112s?
Hey Rob, since you’ve had both what are your thoughts on 5100 all around vs 3:1 ready lift on a tundra. I have a tundra and thinking which route to take as I’m hearing 5100 at max height (2.75) is still a smoother ride for the tundra. Thanks!
Rob did you change tire sensors? I am about to get a larger tire size and I was concerned with clearance and lights coming on on my dashboard, throwing off my odometer and any problems with transmission.
Sensors are not the issue. The trucks programming would have to be changed to register correctly for the larger tires. The shop you’re going to should be able to provide more detail👍
Rob I hope you will pass this on back in January I ordered the drivers side grab I waited over five weeks contacted the company and was told they had no record of my order so I reordered and 2 weeks later I received my handle i installed it and was quite happy with it one day about 4 weeks later I went out on my porch and found another box same product informed ktjo4×4 and they said they would send me return info they never did so before the 30 days ran out I returned the item its now been three weeks and I still haven't been credited they won't reply to my e mails so I sent them one more today I think the handle is great but there public relations is terrible thought you might want to pass this on I will keep you informed of the situation thanks
Getting my 2021 Toyota Tacoma TRD 4X4 OFFROAD soon in April and want to do a lift with 6112 and 5160 Bilstein shocks front and rear. The rear will get an Icon AAL too. The tires will be BFG KO2 265/75/16. This truck will be used off roading on weekend. Hope this setup will work will no rubbing...
I’m getting same Bilsteins, Deaver Stage 2, and SPC UCAs. Was told ball joints will eventually blow out (well prematurely when compared to rest of suspension (gotta make sure longevity is maintained)) so I am going with the SPC UCAs.
You'll still have the lean on the driver side. Before you lift, have each corner measured, can be fixed with a thin spacer added to the driver side or get adjustable shocks based on the measured difference.
Dude giving advice on a lift without doing an AAL at least. Axle wrap like a mfer. Spend the 200 on an icon add-a-leaf at least, blocks in the back will cause your rear axle to rotate under load, may not be right away, but eventually. And change your UCAs to something that allows proper clearance and chamber/toe and alignment adjustment options.
Matter of opinion…hah…axle wrap is a matter of physics for axle below spring rear setups. And by moving the axle further away from your spring with a block spacer, it increases the effect that the torque puts on the axle, causing more axle wrap. Can tell you don’t do any kind of wheeling with those uca’s at the angle their at, you would be eating spring at full droop.
You're right man! I know if I had a lift I would NEVER want a rub! You gotta have the right wheel and tire set up! One that actually fits your lift lol.
Absolutely 👍
Morning Rob. I’ve the ICON Stage 8 suspension 2.5” lift , added leaf pak in the rear, with 285/75 Toyo RT’s on 16” wheels. But my truck is used Offroad. No rubbing due to a cab-mount chop. No rubbing issues.
You should upgrade the UCA's your stock ones look pretty maxed out. It will definitely improve your ride quality and clearances.
Nah...they look good to me👍
Oh they are... but driving to the mall he should be ok. Upgrading to SPC UCA’s made a huge difference for me with a 3” lift.
@@cmoney8280 same i have a 3 inch once i did spc uppers it was night & day difference my stocks were maxed out very dangerous
I have a really basic inexpensive lift on my 2008 Tacoma Sport. I have the Rancho quick lift it the quick lift strut assembly with Rancho shocks. I paid around $600 and it rides great and I have the same tire and rim set up as you do.
I installed bigger tires on my 2017 Tacoma TRD Sport. Stock tire size is 265/65/R17, and I put on 275/70/R17 which lifted my truck just over an inch....nice!! Now, after all the research I did stated that was the biggest tire I could fit on my stock truck without any modifications, any modifications at all. Well, the front tires rub a bit when cranked hard over in reverse only...this to me is not acceptable. So, I'm putting in a lift kit, 2" in the front and 1.5" in the rear. The reputable shop thats doing the work states the OME products are better quality than the TRD Pro 2" lift kit and he guarantees my truck will handle and drive smoother then with the stock suspension. I will update this post once the work is done next week and I take my truck for a test ride. Love your Tacoma videos Rob!
Very interested to hear the outcome🤔
@@RobMotive After lift, the truck handles nicely, hitting the speed bumps in my alley like they are barely there. I still have a bit of a forward stance (which I like), and it sits about an 1.5" higher. So after putting one the bigger tires and the lift, truck is sitting about 2.5" higher. Glad I got this work done.
That’s awesome. Sounds great👍
@@RobMotive Just curious if your -10 offset wheels corrected the rub on the UCA, and if you had to do a CMC in addition?
So, I've been telling you for a while about lifting my Tacoma and all that. Well, I settled on a 2" lift front and 1 in the back, while keeping the 265/70r17 (32's). I do a lot of driving, especially for my fishing and I would hate to spend more money on the gas instead of the bait for fishing lol. But the truck now, which you already saw on Facebook, looks pretty cool and I love it. It is setup for my needs and works for me. I might go with 33's once the truck is paid off. But I will set it up the same way you did to avoid any rubbing stuff. 😀
Sounds like a great plan to me 👍👍
Your upper control arm is pulling toward the ground a lot. More than mine does with a 3 inch lift.
Looks good to me👍
🤦♂️
Before I got my 2022 taco I test drove(and did paperwork) a 2019 with 6” lift and 35’s and let me tell you it was a slug power wise and drove like crap! Sales manager had one with a 3”lift and hair bigger wheels and tires which is perfect in my opinion,but whenever you put bigger wheels and tires it’s harder on everything,brakes,motor,tranny,etc. appreciate your honesty! Have a fantastic day
For sure! Gotta keep I real👍
I have 5100s all around with icon 1.5 rear AAL. No chops, rubs a little bit on full turns when reverse. Noticeable rubs when off roading but nothing to harsh.
Argh! Doesn’t the rub drive you nuts?😬
What tire size and wheel offset?
Good morning Rob. Great honest review! My wife drives our Tacoma, she likes the look of lifted Tacomas. I tell her its expensive to go all out to properly lift vehicle, lots to cosider. Im going to forward ypur video so ypu can show her what you have learned. Thanks Rob!!
Glad to help👍
Rob what is your offset on your wheels? I plan on 17x8.5. with a 0° offset. Also going with a wescott design lift design with a larger shock collar in front shocks. Also loce those fuel wheels!
I don’t recall on that truck. You’d have to search for it on the channel🤔
Not going to lift my truck.....at least not now. Hope them Falken WP's still look good on my truck!!!!
They’ll make it look a little meaner!👍
The spacer in front it coma with the chocks.thank you
Sway bar, ball joint and tie rods about to scream.
I had a 4/3 lift on my FJ cruiser and was running 34” tires. At full flex the rear tire would rub on the inside of the wheel well. Only at full flex though
Finally received my Bilsteins front and rear shocks, dropping the truck off monday and looking forward to a new look. will wait to see how it looks once completed and then will put 285 70 10 tires. toss up between Wildpeak or rough country. I guess for tires 150 per tire sounds reasonable, but 250 , ouch. i do like the KO2, well we shall see.. thanks for the information.
I’ve watched countless videos on what kind of lift to do on my 21 taco. I’ve come to conclude that it’s just not worth it unless you’re off roaring all the time. I’m just bumping up the tire size to 265/75R/16 and calling it good.
There are tons of opinions for sure😬
So no lift on your truck ?
@@Turtlemilk
I caved and put on a 2.5 in spacer lift. Wasn’t happy with the slight Baja look so I put a 1.5 in add a leaf in the rear. Now I’m really happy! Looks amazing and zero rub. Frustrating how many options there are and how you can make serious mistakes if you aren’t careful
@@Rollingrock72 deng. I legit just bought a tacoma like 2 weeks ago and now I want to lift this truck up. I don’t even know what “Baja” or “leaf” means lmao
@@Turtlemilk a baja look is when the front end of your truck is higher than the rear. A leaf is an add a leaf to thread spring. People typically add a leaf to their leaf springs to gain some lift and or gain load capacity
I have 18s on mine goodrich t/a with as you call it a hybrid lift system with no rub. Put heavy duty leaf springs and shocks on the back because i haul a scooter and lift with a diamond back bed cover and spare tire in the bed. Ride is pretty good. Gas mileage is another thing but gas mileage is not why i bought a Tacoma.
Maybe someone can help? I have a stock 2006 Tacoma TRD Prerunner 2WD. The shocks are bad and I will be replacing them. Do I need to replace the strut springs or can I use the old ones? Also, What shocks do you recommend for the truck" I am thinking about getting the Bilstein 4600's. If I want to raise the front level Should I use the 5100's? I don't really want a lift, just leveled out.
Ima stay stock!!
Eventually I'll probably to the same, think I'll change out the 4600's for 5100's on the rear only to begin with just to see if I can feel any difference..
i think you will, both on road and off road. i would suggest 5100 all around to notice a huge difference, since 5100 are a moderate upgrade from 4600
@@pepper508 Appreciate the info 👍
I had a 09 Holden Colorado and I went to a shop and asked the that I wanted 32inch mud tyres the told me it will be fine couple days later it’s started to run every time I went down my drive way i went back to the shop and they told me I was missing torsion bars which the 09 model never came with $3000 wasted I was 22 back then first and last mistake 😂😂😂 learnt it the hard way I guess
Costly for sure!!😬
what does the Dealer cost for the lift then..?/ they wanted 300 bucks for a brush guard to be put on../ i never got the bRush guard...
Most important information you have ever shared ..im doing mine with fox 2.0 all four.thank you rob.
Glad to help👍
285s do not rub on My 06 with 2" lift
Just got my Tacoma back from the shop today. Went with 3” spacer lift , Icon rebound wheels 0 offset, and 285 /70/17 , Nitto Terra Grappler G2’s. Absolutely no rubbing,, and surprising better ride than I expected. Truck is looking great, thanks for the video’s and information. 👍🏻
That’s great! The way it should be👍
How big a hit do you take with gas mileage?
3inch spacer??? Bro how are you not getting needle bearing and drivetrain vibration as well as a terrible ride.
Lulz this guy makes a video titled “best lift” and goes on to waste 10 minutes of my life going on about tires.
Thanks for watching 👍
I’d like to lift my 2014 Tacoma. We’ll never take it off road as this vehicle will be used as a trade show backdrop.
In my situation, would it be better to use blocks and spacers for lift? I don’t want to spend on a suspension lift that will never see off road use. I’m merely wanting the look. What say you?
Heck yeah. If it will just be a prop (for business purposes I assume) I'd go the cheapest route possible👍
I was thinking changing out the wheels at first. but thanks for the info! definitely getting the lift first! 🤣
For sure! You’ll need the room👍
ReadyLIFT has 2 SST lifts for the Tacoma a 3/2 and a 3/1, the 3/2 levels out a TRD truck, the 3/1 levels out a Non TRD truck. If you install the 3/1 on a TRD Truck then truck sits slightly higher in the front. Do you like that look Rob, or you like it more level?
Gotta say, I prefer a level look👍
how negative the wheels
Have a look: ruclips.net/video/v60ugQi3mzc/видео.html
Hi Rob, can I ask what you get for MPG with that nice wheel and tire setup?
Thanks! I'm a hyper-miler at 14.7-15mpg!
Rob, curious as to how you like the 6112”s vs the 5100”s in the front? Also since you had a sport and an off road which one do you prefer and why?
I like them just fine. The off-road is a smoother ride. Which do I prefer...it’s a split decision for me👍
i got a ‘20 tacoma with 5100 all around, added an add-a-leaf, and front OME coils. does well, but i do rub(285/70/R17) when i off-road. i’m too lazy to trim. it does everything i want and need to do, plus it went up lifted about 2.5 inches. Only knock is i rake a little with my RTT/gear so i’m thinking of upgrading my leaf system soon, and possibly getting beefier shocks but not sure... also, Rob how do you like 6112s?
The 6112’s have been great for me. I’d get them again👍
I have a question if you lift your Tacoma 3.5 high lift does it hurt or brakes your axle???
I’d put a drop on it for the axle. However, many would say no. It’s marginal.
@@RobMotive ohhh ok thank you so much…
What you think about 255/80r16 for 2021 sr5?
Hey Rob with this setup did you have to do a diff drop, sway bar drop, or a old man drop spacer?
I did them all👍
Hey Rob, since you’ve had both what are your thoughts on 5100 all around vs 3:1 ready lift on a tundra. I have a tundra and thinking which route to take as I’m hearing 5100 at max height (2.75) is still a smoother ride for the tundra. Thanks!
The ready lift on the Tundra is perfect. Due to its weight, I noticed no real difference in ride quality.
Rob did you change tire sensors? I am about to get a larger tire size and I was concerned with clearance and lights coming on on my dashboard, throwing off my odometer and any problems with transmission.
Sensors are not the issue. The trucks programming would have to be changed to register correctly for the larger tires. The shop you’re going to should be able to provide more detail👍
Did you do a differential drop?Any issues with the CV Joint angle?
I did. Not sure I needed to...but I had the parts👍
What offset are your wheels.
Have a look: ruclips.net/video/v60ugQi3mzc/видео.html
I have a 2022 tacoma with 17in wheels. What lift kit is better suit ?
Have a look: ruclips.net/video/pbZnuhRPkEY/видео.html
so would the 2" block up front/ 1" rear../ clear the 285/75/16"??
I’d check with a shop. I’ve never had that size🤔
Rob I hope you will pass this on back in January I ordered the drivers side grab I waited over five weeks contacted the company and was told they had no record of my order so I reordered and 2 weeks later I received my handle i installed it and was quite happy with it one day about 4 weeks later I went out on my porch and found another box same product informed ktjo4×4 and they said they would send me return info they never did so before the 30 days ran out I returned the item its now been three weeks and I still haven't been credited they won't reply to my e mails so I sent them one more today I think the handle is great but there public relations is terrible thought you might want to pass this on I will keep you informed of the situation thanks
Contact your credit card company. They will reverse the charge👍
Getting my 2021 Toyota Tacoma TRD 4X4 OFFROAD soon in April and want to do a lift with 6112 and 5160 Bilstein shocks front and rear. The rear will get an Icon AAL too.
The tires will be BFG KO2 265/75/16.
This truck will be used off roading on weekend.
Hope this setup will work will no rubbing...
@@mblake0420 Excellent news, thanks.
I’m getting same Bilsteins, Deaver Stage 2, and SPC UCAs. Was told ball joints will eventually blow out (well prematurely when compared to rest of suspension (gotta make sure longevity is maintained)) so I am going with the SPC UCAs.
Did you do the front diff drop kit?
I did👍
Is it still needed on the 3rd gen Tacoma to have different settings for the front/ rear shocks...taco lean?
I haven’t experienced this myself🤔
@@RobMotive So both side shocks the same settings then?
Mine are👍
You'll still have the lean on the driver side. Before you lift, have each corner measured, can be fixed with a thin spacer added to the driver side or get adjustable shocks based on the measured difference.
Are you going to get a prinsu rack ?
No plans to at the moment.
Best lifts are the free lifts! Haha
Lol! Every time 👍
No way you’re running a spacer lift and calling it the best 😂😂😂
Did you watch the video?🤔
Dude giving advice on a lift without doing an AAL at least. Axle wrap like a mfer. Spend the 200 on an icon add-a-leaf at least, blocks in the back will cause your rear axle to rotate under load, may not be right away, but eventually. And change your UCAs to something that allows proper clearance and chamber/toe and alignment adjustment options.
Matter of opinion. My setup is just fine👍
Matter of opinion…hah…axle wrap is a matter of physics for axle below spring rear setups. And by moving the axle further away from your spring with a block spacer, it increases the effect that the torque puts on the axle, causing more axle wrap. Can tell you don’t do any kind of wheeling with those uca’s at the angle their at, you would be eating spring at full droop.
Perhaps with a lift beyond my height, by no worries with mine.