A better way to knit German short rows [and why yours may look all wrong]
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- Опубликовано: 6 июл 2024
- There are two different ways to knit German short rows and this tutorial explores the differences between the two and when and where to use which version.
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German short rows are very simple. Basically, it boils down to slipping a stitch purlwise with yarn in front and then pulling (quite strongly) on the working yarn to create a double stitch. Later on, you will decrease the double stitch by knitting it together. So far so good. But when you do this process on the knitside, the result will be a slightly twisted stitch.
To avoid this, you have to slip the stitch knitwise and knit it together through back loop later on. However, while this might create a balanced stitch for the knitside, it might not always be the neatest way.
So, this tutorial explores the differences between the two different ways to knit German short rows and when and how to use them. In the last part, I also show you why and how I knit my German short row heel.
0:00 German short rows - the problem!
1:30 How to knit German short rows the traditional way
7:43 German short rows twisted
14:40 Knitting the perfect German short-row heel
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Just curious to know what is the brand name of the needle you are using in this video. Thanks.
@@joysoriano2825 knitters pride mindfull
Some Of Us Have Discovered This, But Not Many Of US Want To Be On Camera... So Thanks For Sharing With Others. Teaching Is The Greatest Gift.
This deserves the Nobel Prize for Knitting. Sir, I salute you!!
haha...is there something like that? :P like crafts awards? (i mean that matter)
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Absolutely the best demo on short rows I’ve ever seen. I’ve been knitting for 53 years, and a few years ago I also adjusted how I do my German short rows to avoid twisted stitches in exactly the same way you have done. I’m an American living in the state of Nevada near Lake Tahoe. Congratulations for having solved a pesky knitting problem and congratulations on making an excellent video!
Thank You, Norman ~ you've done it again! Masterfully explaining and showing us how to do the impossible and make it fun and easy, too! I finished my knee-high 2-at-a-time toe-up boot socks and wow are they warm, they fit perfectly, and I thank you for your tutorials which gave courage, hope and ability. You are a fabulous teacher. You're the best teacher I've found on the Internet, and I've been knitting for 65 years and have met lots of teachers.
ohh wow...thank you so much for sharing your stellar feedback. it means a lot!
Mind blown! I DEFINITELY would love a deeper dive into this going a bit slower in the comparisons to really grapple with it, and of course I will make a swatch to try this out for myself. I happen to be a thrower but that should not change anything. Thank you so much. Nobody before you has presented this, to my knowledge.
Glad to hear my videos sitll work for you. But hey, I do watch quite a lot of English videos as well and if you just focus on the stitch and blend out the tensioning fingers, I feel it works very well!
Successfully pulled off short rows, with no twisted stitches. Beginner knitter (still working on first project). It is clear you spend so much time with the right lighting, yarn, background and camera settings and editing to get a clear demonstration across. Makes it so much easier to understand. Thanks
I'm addicted to your videos! I learned so much; you explain everything so well, so calmly. Well, surely, I am still a beginner, but I was so proud when I finished my first scarf and my first headband. Yes, they are not perfect, I can see the flaws, but it's fine. I realize that great work comes in time, with experience, with lots of practice. So, just thank you, Norman. Vielen Dank! :-)
that's the perfect attitude. You can't expect the Mona Lisa if you barely did your first stroke. But with patience and practise, you will eventually get there!
Let Me Tell You From Years Of Perfectionist Torment... You're The Only One Who Notices The Flaws. Even Other Knitters Don't Tend To "Knitpick" Your Items 😅 But Just Like Our Bodies, We See A Supernaturally Enlarged Problem Where Only A Triviality Exists. Keep On, You'll Do Great Things.
@@StarfireReborn let me tune in on this and strongly disagree here. I hear this theme so often and it can be very hurtful. Not all brains work the same. Some see the large picture, others focus on the details (especially ppl on the autism spectrum, etc). And for these, these flaws can be a big problem and it's very important to recognize them and not tell them they don't exist or it's fine. It often is not and it's nothing you can (or should) fix with therapy or nice words. I know, you mean well and I thank you for this. But do be careful with that and word in a way it's inclusive.
Norman, your technical approach plus your talent for explanation equals fascinating videos. I’ve saved this one for future reference.
You're a blessing to the knitting community, Norman. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us! As always, I've learned a lot from this video - will need to experiment with my GSRs now!
you are too kind!
Yes, he is so clear and concise!
My takeaway is that balanced GSR is suited for flat fabric & twisted GSR is for shaping & firmness. Thank you again! This video is really helpful.
Thank you so much. I’ve been knitting for 70 years and this is a new one for me - always wonderful to learn new things and new twists on old things.
Indeed. Same here!
Thank you Norman for noticing these details,tweaking them to produce better stitches & most importantly for generously sharing your knowledge with the rest of us. ❤
I found this same thing when I was knitting a cardigan several years ago!! I was doing short rows in pattern, though, so I thought it was just the fact that I was doing seed stitch, and so had purl and knit stitches on both back and front. I ended up purling some stitches through the back loop (tricky but doable), knitting some through the back loop and knitting / purling the normal way some stitches to get them to come out untwisted, depending on what the underlying stitch was (ie. knit or purl). I don't remember pulling stitches to the front, but it all did work out. German short rows were the only short row method I could find that really worked for non-stockinette fabric.
dear Norman, I cannot thank you enough for the love and care you put into your videos. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience for us.
I agree, I’ve been knitting for 35 years and thought I knew everything. Thanks Norman for “fixing” my german short rows!😊
I also thought I was doing it wrong and the twisted stitches bothered me. I started knitting in the back to untwist. Your additional information for double stitch formation was helpful. I was taught by my German mother but only started using it the last few years and thought I was doing something wrong. Thank You.
I'm watching this today to learn the technique for a pattern I've just begun.
I must say that since discovering your channel & blog, my knitting has improved substantially.
I even had the confidence to knit a lace shawl! Thank you.
Very happy to hear that 🥰❤️🧶
@@NimbleNeedleslol, the shawl took me three months, and one start-completely-over but, it's finished and the recipient loves it!
I literally looked up German short row knitting videos yesterday and was hoping for this video to pop up. Amazing timing and great content as always!
I can read thoughts *sinister smile*
^^
I watched so many other videos for this technique, this is the first one that made sense!! Thank you so much. Using the different color yarn helped as well
I have learned more from your videos since I’ve been watching past couple months, than I have learned from knitting for decades. Excellent.
I’m going to watch this a few times to get it, thank you.
Norman, you never fail to have the best tutorials on any knitting skill I'm stuck on. So thankful you're here.
I had just ripped back to the start of my short rows - every time I looked at my work the wonky stitches drove me nuts and I ripped back. Then I found this channel/video. I can barely tell where my knit side rows are. I can still see a slight difference on my purl rows but they are so much better. Thank you for this video tutorial - thank you!
This is the most beautiful, professional finished short row I’ve ever seen. I’m so excited to try it! The information you provide always elevates a finished work. Thank you 🙏🏻 ❤
it continues to be my pleasure! Happy to hear you've enjoyed this.
This video is exactly what I need to know. You are a wo nderful instructor. I was doing the short rows but didn’t realize I neglected to do the double stitches. Fortunately I can rip out the 12 rows that are wrong. I made the mistake of not reading the pattern before beginning my project.
Danke sehr, Du bist ein Schatz 👏👏👏😘
I'm saving this for my next project involving GSRs. This is genius Norman! Many thanks.x
Wow! I never noticed the twisted stitches before . I usually shadow wraps as I don't like pulling on the yarn to make a double stitch. still it is nice to know the right way to do GSR in the case I absolutely need to use GSR. Thank you Norman.
I use japanese pinned heels for my socks, but it's always handy to know GSR in case it comes up in a pattern and I can't substitute it out :)
@@silverutopia Right! I don't think I know the "japanese pinned heels". Will check it out. Maybe Norman could make a tutorial .😁
Despite 40 years of knitting, I'm learning new tricks to make the end result as nice as purchased knitwear, from your videos. I love it! 😍 Thanks a lot!
It's my pleasure ❤️🧶
Thank you for this tip! I'm an English knitter and let me tell you, I struggled so much with this technique, until I just switched to hold the yarn the continental way and the double stitch appeared like magic. When I was holding it the way I usually do, there was absolutely no way I was getting a double stitch and I was going mad.
You are a genius Norman. Thank you so much for all you do for us. Clear. Concise. Intelligent. And love that you really show this technique that has alluded me. German short rows no longer scare me! Thank you. 🥰🙏😍
awesome. then recording this video was all worth it!
It makes so much more sense that way! Thank you so much, Norman! I have been confused for a whole pattern about those GSRs and was seriously scared when I started a second shirt with the same pattern and the dreaded GSR. Not dreaded anymore. So thank you!
I can't thank you enough for this video, it's brilliant. I'm using this technique on my Ranunculus sweater and I can't even see the turns. Now socks are going to be a different matter. I love how your short rows on your heels look so tidy and I need to practice the technique before trying it on a sock. Thanks for making your videos. I'm a visual learner and really appreciate your knowledge.
Norman, I enjoy watching your videos when I find time. To me, you are perfect in all ways. Thank you for bringing these knotting tips and projects our way!
ha...well..i am not sure I'm perfect in every way. I sure have my flaws...but that is part of life, right?
Always informative! Always great knitting videos from you Norman! Thank you!
trying my best :P But glad to hear confirmation that my effort is worth it
Simply amazing, 😮 I've been knitting since I was a kid, but of course not used to german short row until the last 30 years but simply knit wrong, so glad you showed this and came up with this, thank you 🙏 so much. Sinikka 😊
That was very clear explanations as always. Thank you very much it was very helpful
Thank you for sharing this technique.i am going to use this one for every project I make .it's working and looks better then traditional German short rows.i think that's correct way.😊
Very interesting. Might have to watch a few times to get my head round this one but very happy to do that.
It would be interesting to have a video about when to use different types of short rows and the difference in appearance on the finished item.
I tend to do German or wrap and turn short rows but am never sure what gives the neatest/smoothest looking finish.
well, i'll see what I can do. But the thing is, and I hope the last section of this video prooved that, it depends a bit on how close you space them. So one method might look nice for a heel but not all that nice for a shawl, etc. So, i'm saying: don't think of it as THE neatest...rather neatest in this case for you :)
I’ve only done wrap and turn short rows so far, so this scrambled my brain a bit… hoping it’ll make sense in time…
Thank you so, SO much Norman! You don’t understand, I’m so relieved I could cry. I’ve knitted countless small projects like mittens and socks (heel flap and gusset), and started my first sweater but I’ve already frogged it twice. I just wasn’t happy with the look of my GSRs. I watched so many RUclips tutorials, googled, read forums about what I might be doing wrong but still couldn’t make mine appear as invisible as other people’s. Finally this afternoon I did a large swatch in the round with different GSR techniques people have recommended and I found yours to be the neatest out of all of them. Truely, thank you!
Awww..happy I was able to help ❤️
Thank you for your very detailed and informative tuition of short rows. You always provide such graphically clear videos and your register of speech is just the speed for exchanging the methods. I find your videos so refreshing snd feel fortunate to have happened upon your site. Lynda U.K.
O my, so sorry to hear of elizza, I always followed her even though I can't speak a word of German, she was so full of techniques. Just like you Norman, thank you for your time and effort you take to teach us, with all the details.❤🌹
yes, it was all quite tragic. You can read about it here on her website: www.nadelspiel.com/2021/02/14/nachruf-elizzza-elisabeth-wetsch/
Good morning!! I’ve been trying to learn to knit through watching your videos, I’m not very good yet but Iove your content. You do such an amazing job at teaching ❤
be patient with yourself. you will get there eventually. But also don't be too critical right? The fact that you are learning a new craft sucessfully is already amazing and something to celebrate :)
You are very analytical and a good teacher! I love it. I learn a lot from you 💌
you are so clear and wonderfully uncomplicated
I just wanted to pop in and say THANK YOU!!!! I taught myself to knit vicariously through you!!! Your videos made my knitting possible!! So thank you thank you thank you!!!!
My pleasure 🥰
I love GSR and it’s great to have these tips to make them neater. Thank you. ❤
Hello Norman! You're a wonderful teacher and a very sweet person! 😊 🤗
Thank you so much! I've been puzzled why my German short rows do not come out as neatly as I think they could. I will do some serious swatching now to see what I can change to improve. I'm mainly knitting sweaters and not socks. This was extremely helpful and encouraging. I recommend your videos to everyone, but especially new knitters. ❤❤❤
swatching is always a good idea. I feel that actually trying something out yourself will teach you the most more than I ever could.
I love the way you show and explain the steps on all your videos! Excellent work!! Thank you so much!!!
Thank you so much for these instructions! I just changed my short rows in my current sock and love it!
Herzliche Grüße aus Deutschland 😊
grüße zurück aus Wien :)
I have never done german short rows well. Now, i know how and is the easiest of short rows so far. Thankyou!
I bless the day I found your channel. The result was neat af. Thanks!
Thank you for your wonderful presentation of German sts. in order to avoid unsightly holes!
Thank you for this wonderful explanation! I would love to learn more about other short row techniques too!
Thank you, Norman - you are such a good teacher !
You are such an amazing teacher!❤
Excellent tutorial. I appreciate that you clearly demonstrate not just the “how” but also the “why”. 👍🏼❣️
always....repetition alone is never enough, if you ask me :)
I guess I've been doing them "wrong." Something I do on socks. Not German, must be another name. I'm kind of new at many stitches. Love Norman. I learn so much!
Wrap and turn? Shadow wraps? well those are all valid options :)
such a clear video and soooo easy to follow ,thanks so much.
very precise and refined technique. Thanks ! It is always nice to have options.
Very clever, I was wondering why you were doing this stitch. I'm a novice knitter so thank you for your tips and advice ☘️
Thank you, Norman. ❤It's always enjoyable to see your work.
Thank you Norman! So informative and your teaching and explanations are really really good 👍
happy to hear that
Such a clear easy video to follow. Best I've seen
I'm going to try this on my next top down sweater - thank you
This is great timing. Am about to do the short rows on a Cobblestone sweater, which has a garter stitch yoke. Most sweater patterns want you to wrap and turn, but I think German short rows look much nicer.
Thank you! Those little bumps on the knit side have had me frog so many projects lately, no more of that now!
Very well explained as always. Think I will need to experiment a bit as you suggested. Thank you Norman.
This was such an incredibly helpful technique that I had to subscribe! Thank you so much. It's going to really change my heels! So excited.
Wow thank you so much, you have saved me scrapping a jumper, I was looking the other day, to do this, and gave up, but now I can carry on with the jumper using your short rows. You are a life saver. Thank you do much, your videos are clear instruction and I have now learned so much from you. Have an amazing day.
awesome, doreen. And feel free to come back if you face any problems when doing those short rows to rescue your jumper
You are a treasure, Norman.
Thank U for what u do for us.
You have perfected the effect of the German Short Row. Thank you very much for sharing.
my pleasure!
Brilliant explanation for an issue I’ve wondered about for a long time. Thank you!
happy to hear that. By the way, there is an even more detailed video available on my patreon account. This is not a pitch, just saying if this was something that concerned you for a long time.
As always, you have the best way to explain things! Amazing.
Amazing! I’m looking forward to trying this out on my next pair of socks.
Hallo Norman! Ich stricke gerade “Piace” und die Art die short rows zu stricken ist viel viel besser geeignet, als die konventionelle Methode. Es gibt hier nur recht Maschen und die double stitches fallen überhaupt nicht auf! Es sieht einfach so viel besser aus! Ich liebe deine Videos und Tipps 😍
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A fantastic video!! I struggled to get it looking as neat as yours in the round! Still my next sweater will look far better because of your video, Norman! You're amazing :)
11:30 Timestamp for balanced stitches
I found that it is more about knits and purls than right or wrong side. I am making a top that has both knits and purls in a row so I had to use both methods on both sides.
I found that after turning the work, if the stitch that is to be the double stitch is a knit (on that side), slip knitwise, and if it is purl, slip purlwise. Use the appropriate decrease when resolving them. This is what gave me the best results.
Thanks for the video Norman! All of your videos are brilliant but this one especially was so useful and kind of revolutionary to be honest 😂
yes, that is another factor I didn't talk about in this video. But great you were able to figure it out!
I love your videos. You're such a good teacher.
thank you
Norman, once again, a million thanks for your wonderful content!! I was wondering whether you could make a video explaining how to create a raglan sweater, when to incorporate short rows so the neck on the back is higher than the front neck, when to stop increasing, etc. This would be sooo helpful ❤
I am actually currently working on exactly that
Ahhh I just started playing with this with my current socks because the uneven heels were annoying me. I've moved on now but you saved me a lot of time for my next socks! Thanks :D
Hi Norman, thank you for another great video. I just became a Patreon; WOW, the free Knitting glossary is fantastic. Thank you soo much. You folks out there need this, and it is a free gift to you for supporting Norman.
very happy to hear that. I put a loot of energy into creating it and one day it might turn into aproper book. Who knows :D
Thank you so very much for your very informative videos. You are a gift to knitters.
It's my pleasure ❤️
Well done! Will try for the first time. Thank you!
This is so interesting. I really enjoy your videos. The way you explain every step is so reassuring. You certainly are a gem in the knitting community. Cheers from Montreal Canada 🇨🇦🤗
aww..thank you SHerry!
Another masterclass Norman - THANK YOU ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Thank you, Norman, for demonstrating that there‘s a difference to the methods that GSRs are knitted. Your tutorial was enlightening. I abandoned GSRs because they didn’t leave a neat finish but I am going to try these techniques to see what works best and try using the GSRs again for sock heels. Great video!
happy to be there for you. and yes, definitely try this on a swatch and see if it re-sparks your GSR joy :)
So it's 7:43 on video. Fabulous tutorial! Thank you Norman! 👍
Wow! That is fascinating. I need to swatch up and see what I get. Thank you.
Thanks again🌺🌷🌸 Norman. Merry Christmas 🎄
Another wonderful detailed tutorial!
I learn so much from these. Thank you for going through with so much explanation and example at a pace I can actually see what's going on.
very happy to hear that. I actually recorded parts of the video a SECOND time because while editing I noticed..hm..well..that's not as clear as I thought it would be!
@@NimbleNeedles I am part way through the companion Patreon video that takes an even closer look at the Why and How. You are so talented. Yes, you are improving the understanding and joys of knitting the world round. Thank you.
I'm new to "short rows"?!?!@#$&) All other tutorials show one line or two but presume I know something, whereas, I know nothing. You are the first who has not presumed I've heard of this knitting method. Many thanks.
You're brilliant Norman :-) Thank you so very much for this tutorial. I have noticed the twisted stitches on heels and have often changed from German Short Rows to Japanese Short Rows for the neatness factor. But now I don't have to! Thank you! Danke!
awesome. I mean, give this a try, maybe you still like the JSR better...but this certainly is a good option, if you ask me!
Wow! I love how you pick apart a tested and true technique, and offer an alternative. As you mentioned in the video, this new way to do German short rows will not replace to traditional way, but it t may be useful to solve problems along the way. After all, knitting patterns, yarns and techniques continue to evolve, so depending what we are knitting and what we are using, the technique could be very useful. I will definitely find time to swatch the two options the next time I make a garment that calls for GSRs. Thank you!
Tho, I do have to mention that the twisted version actually is the more traditional way here in Germany 😅
But yeah, swatch and check what you like most.
Thank you! I will certainly give this a try next time.
Thank you, again. I’ve never understood German short rows. Others have done tutorials, but your explanation, and showing this stitch both ways really makes sense. And… you chose larger yarn in colors that really show up the v’s and legs of the stitches. I think I could pull up one of the sock patterns I want to try, and knit a pair of socks for Christmas!
Thank you, Norman.
very happy to hear that. I was even considering to use yet larger yarn. then again, this is already 6-ply and nobody knits socks with larger yarn either. so happy, my considerations worked out for you!
Hello! I just love your teachings 😊and yes I would like for you to go deeper in the subject… I’ve always hated knitting socks because of the short rows … have a great week!
ah..a pitty but maybe my video will make you reconsider a bit :)
Wonderful explanation of the difference, thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you Norman this was so interesting and very helpful you just explain everything so thoroughly but in a way that is easy to understand 👏Amanda xx💖💕
very happy to hear that, Amanda. It took me quite a few attempts to get this right! (i mean the recording :P)
German and Mexican knitting are alike, and my neighbor was Canadian and she taught me the continental style and it fixed my twisted stitches lol