Really interesting discussion. You are right about iPad becoming a media consumption device and feeling more focussed on an e-ink tablet. I'd love to collaborate some time as this is a topic that I'm covering on my channel too. 🙂
The 10.3 Go is very likely going to be my next device. You’re absolutely right: even though it can handle loads of apps, you just don’t feel the need to use them all. I already own a Boox Note 2, and it evokes a similar feeling. There’s something about e-ink that just brings a sense of calm, allowing you to truly immerse yourself in a book again, rather than chasing after the next short video or the latest status update on WhatsApp. Of course, you could achieve that same peace with paper. But right now, Boox is very close to a sweet spot, balancing the best of both worlds: combining the benefits of real paper with the convenience of a digital device.
Yes. No iPad or Android tablet has EVER truly replaced my first e-reader. For the same reasons as yours, my old Sony eReader allowed me to read my books and magazines without distraction. Sadly, I haven't purchased a new one to replace my long-dead Sony. I dislike the Amazon and Nook readers, because of all the proprietary sign-in accounts they have. I don't want to have to ASK PERMISSION from a corporation to read my old books and magazines on my eReader. Mahalo for opening my eyes to new brands of this niche product. These products are hard to find and look at and try here in Hawai'i, so I've been remiss in buying a new one of these... Aloha, Patrick.
@@tanichiro I'm glad to hear it! That sounds like JUST what I need to remove the burden from my iPad/Galaxy S6 Lite tablets. Thanks to you and Patrick, I WILL free myself from the light glare and the pretty colours that distract me from concentrating on my reading. Mahalo!
Being easily distracted is your problem not the Tablet’s. Your kind of people can easily check your phone while from a physical book or e-reader as well. The problem is you.
The Boox Go Color 7 is amazing! I was hesitant since I had an Oasis and they're basically the same size but I'm glad I got it. Reading manga and comics on here is incredible ~ love that it has android. The TTS feature was the main motivator and it's honestly better than I expected.
This Boox Go 7 Color is the perfect daily companion to my Kindle Oasis. Hope it support PDF, EPUB, and MOBI ebook format just like Kindle. And lastly the USB-C port and micro SD slot are game changer.
The Go Color 7 supports basically every kind of format! Since it's android, you can also install apps if you find something is not supported or want a different reading experience
I couldn't agree more! I also have a M1 12.9" iPad Pro & iPad Mini 5 both with pencils. And agree just too much distraction on top of battery life anxiety and twice as bulky and heavy inclined not to take with me. Even tho they are fantastic for Magazines,Comics,Science and Technical manuals. But for note taking,quick sketches and ebooks,Pdf's and more distraction free I also considering both of these. Just a more focused super light thinnest pads for these functions and more comfortable use on the go without battery anxiety is a Big Plus for me. Planning on the Go 10.3" in a week and in Aug. to get the Go 7" as a replacement for my 7yr. old Kobo Aura H2o.
I didn't read all the comments, so forgive me if this is a repeat, but the pen does have magnets and can attach to the side of the Boox Go 10.3. It's not a strong connection, but is great to put the pen somewhere while you use your fingers to flip and scroll through pages.
@@PatrickRambles It will connect in two ways, one making contact with only one magnet. The pen should look centered on the side of the device (not towards the top). I find it very adequate to place the pen when I'm reading or something, and have no issue with walking around the house with it like that. Definitely not something you would put in a bag like that and expect to have the pen attached when pulling it back out though.
Boox styluses have actually 5 magnets alternating polarity from the centre towards the edges. The 2-dot sign in the middle is only a visual reference. There’s a limit in the magnets strength before they start to interfere with the eInk screen. That’s probably why the put so many and use alternating polarities for magnetism to help you find the good place. The idea is nice, but I have the feeling it would work way better if the edge wasn’t rounded…
Came to say the same. Also the pen actually attaches to the back of the device horizontal on the top, sides and bottom. I use it like this when carrying around the house as its much more stable. It also raises the device up off the table in this configuration. I will leave the pen in this place and use my other wacom stylus to take notes at my computer and the device is angled up just enough. Cheers. Good video!
The Onyx Boox Tab Mini C is the closest match to the Ipad Mini, and it's color too. The Go7 Color is awsome, but about an 1 inch smaller on the diagonal.
I dont install any social media apps on my iphone or ipadpro M4. I only use it for hours of zoom meeting, ppt, excel, n medical apps. I hardly got distracted. I havent used my Boox Note Air 2 Plus and Note Air 3 C at all, somehow too laggy for what I need. But the Boox Go 10.3 looks so tempting..
I have iPads and several e-ink devices, although no Boox devices. If you have the money to try everything, give it a go. However, if you do not have an unlimited budget or credit line, get an iPad first. I use them for work and play, but mostly for work. I correspond with customers through email and text, do research for my job, prepare pdfs, etc. The 11 inch iPad is great for all of this and Apple Notes is an easy and versatile note taker that is getting better with each software update. E-ink is simply behind in most areas. Where it shines is in long note taking and battery life. By the way, if you go that route, get one with a front light system. The writing experience is more than fine and you will appreciate the ability to work in low light situations. Also, get something with a decent camera to be able to scan documents. Finally, although taken for granted, the Apple ecosystem is finally coming into its own and with more AI functions on the way can only get better. Finally, finally if you love to write on all sorts of paper and with different kinds of pens, buy paper and pens. Much cheaper to use and you can scan in your important notes without much trouble.
Excellent input - thank you. New sub here. Wondering whether the ability to „move notes around“ also includes being able to lasso notes on certain notebooks and easily insert those into a completely different notebook, without endless clicking?
I have my iPad Pro 2014, but I feel you, regarding about this device’s purpose. I started reading and finding myself wanting to right more and such and if this feels and gives that vibe of doing stuff on a light natural paper, I’d consider it. Thank you for your kind advice.
I am complete by you! the both are the best you can't at the moment! For all the rest I 'll take my iPhone pro with MacBook m2 and Apple Watch Ultra 2... All together is the prefect combo
There are so many squirrels in the iPads. I get distracted by them all the time. I know a few people getting these readers just for that reason. I 100% agree about the iPad Pro series. They are way over powered for the limitations of the IOS. I want to check into getting one of these, but my fear is I would never pick up my iPad Pro ever again. I like how you keep the Box Go limited on the apps you put on it. This would be great for meetings and other events I need to stay away from the squirrels
Haha, damn squirrels everywhere. For note-taking and PDF annotation, I really love the 10.3, Steve. The iPad still has its place for me, for emails, scrolling, and media consumption.
I see Ghent, I press like Ahaha I’ve been playing with the idea of getting something like the 10” (or a kindle scribe, kobo, …) for note taking. I already have a kindle libra for reading and I love it.
I really like the idea of these, I'm just not sure the price is justified. I can't wrap my head around paying hundreds for something a hardcopy book from the library and a $10notepad can provide. Sure convenience is there but there is just so much more functionality you can get with a used ipad air for the same price. There needs to be something between the ipad and the $10 notebook that actually makes sense in terms of cost. $2-300 for an 11inch screen would be something I could swallow to fit hundreds of notes and books in but otherwise, that $500 can get me a lot of notebook and a free library card.
Re: BOOX G0 7 Color. It's all in the reader software for me. As far as I can tell it has physical page turn buttons. Thanks, but I'll stick with my ipad mini which lets me turn to the next page by pressing on the left of the screen to turn pages (I'm a very fast reader and hold the ipad in my left hand so touching the screen with my thumb is really quick). Actually that is the problem with all ebook readers, so very slow turning pages. Too bad as I love everything else about the BOOX G0 7 Color.
I tried the boox 8.9 and couldn’t get it to replace an odd keyboard even though I identified English. Has anyone experienced that and figured out way to fix
Because with this you can read everything like for example magazines apps or your newspaper app, etc. You are not locked in on an ecosystem like Kindle
I wouldn’t care if my iPad had a 3 hour battery life, the utility of an iPad as my ereader with all of its functionality blows doors on anything out there.
It's precisely the iPads utility and additional functionality that makes me want to reach for something simpler for certain things (like reading). I get too distracted my everything I could be doing on the iPad. These e-ink devices make it much easier to focus on the task at hand. The added battery life is a nice bonus.
I got myself a Boox Air 2 some months ago. I agree on all the advantages for focus work, more reading, less distractions… but I have it now in a drawer and barely use it. For me synchronization is key. Same apps everywere. Everything ready from one device to another. I had to re-write my workflow to integrate the Boox and still not comfortable. The best I could do is to work around the clunky OneNote Android app as a common element among devices. But I kept missing Capacities and Apple Notes. So for my use case, Apple ecosystem is more convenient. But the device was a charm to use and offers better sync options than reMarkable. Try an iPad Mini with PaperLike and grey colour filter for a 70% there experience.
Hey! Yes the scrolling will be infinitely "worse". The reason for that is that this is e-ink. It's hard to explain but basically it's made of static frames where the e-ink is redistribute for every single frame. It makes the reading experience far superior, but fast scrolling will appear jarring. There are several settings to mitigate this, depending on the content. But these are definitely not built to view fast moving content.
Thanks for the review Patrick. I have been looking at e-Ink devices as I decide if I am going to pick up a new M4 iPad or a new MacBook Air and supplement it with something like the 10.3 instead of getting an iPad.
@@PatrickRambles taking notes and reading. Like you, I don't want the distractions. I only download reading apps, turn off notifications and put it in do not disturb mode. I then have pocket, and Kindle apps, along with Google drive and Google docs. But I'm mainly in the notes app and then download PDFs from Google drive. If I need to, I can hook up Bluetooth keyboard and type in Google docs.
@@PatrickRambles I use it mostly for notes but sometimes for reading. Like you, I don't download a ton of apps, mainly Kindle, pocket, Google drive and docs. I use Google drive to gain access to PDFs and if I need to type a document, I can use a Bluetooth keyboard and Google docs.
We ordered the Boox last week and started working on it immediately. The hardware is a joy to use and we were even able to hook up our external keyboard to type instead of using the pen. About 3 hours later, a massive storm rolled in, knocking out the power in our area - and of course the internet - for 2 days. We were never able to access the instruction manual at the time because that is CENTRALIZED under the control of Boox! We were never able to get our work backed up to the USB-C thumb drive we installed and there was no way to find out how to do so. All forums and discussions - except for youtube - are shielded behind Boox's firewall. WHAT kind of crazy idea is that? WHY couldn't they have put the instruction manual on the device itself?! No more Boox for us.
Really interesting discussion. You are right about iPad becoming a media consumption device and feeling more focussed on an e-ink tablet. I'd love to collaborate some time as this is a topic that I'm covering on my channel too. 🙂
Hey man, thanks! Sure - I am always open to interesting collabs. Feel free to DM me on Twitter or Instagram :)
This would be a great collaboration. You both get my vote.
@@PatrickRamblesI’m psyched about this. Two great leaders in tech!
The 10.3 Go is very likely going to be my next device. You’re absolutely right: even though it can handle loads of apps, you just don’t feel the need to use them all. I already own a Boox Note 2, and it evokes a similar feeling. There’s something about e-ink that just brings a sense of calm, allowing you to truly immerse yourself in a book again, rather than chasing after the next short video or the latest status update on WhatsApp.
Of course, you could achieve that same peace with paper.
But right now, Boox is very close to a sweet spot, balancing the best of both worlds: combining the benefits of real paper with the convenience of a digital device.
Yes.
No iPad or Android tablet has EVER truly replaced my first e-reader. For the same reasons as yours, my old Sony eReader allowed me to read my books and magazines without distraction.
Sadly, I haven't purchased a new one to replace my long-dead Sony. I dislike the Amazon and Nook readers, because of all the proprietary sign-in accounts they have. I don't want to have to ASK PERMISSION from a corporation to read my old books and magazines on my eReader.
Mahalo for opening my eyes to new brands of this niche product. These products are hard to find and look at and try here in Hawai'i, so I've been remiss in buying a new one of these... Aloha, Patrick.
Thanks man, I appreciate the insight!
i recently bought a boox palma to replace my old sony PRS-T2, honestly i love it but it's more of a supplement to my ipad/zfold 6
@@tanichiro I'm glad to hear it!
That sounds like JUST what I need to remove the burden from my iPad/Galaxy S6 Lite tablets.
Thanks to you and Patrick, I WILL free myself from the light glare and the pretty colours that distract me from concentrating on my reading. Mahalo!
🙌
Being easily distracted is your problem not the Tablet’s. Your kind of people can easily check your phone while from a physical book or e-reader as well. The problem is you.
The Boox Go Color 7 is amazing! I was hesitant since I had an Oasis and they're basically the same size but I'm glad I got it. Reading manga and comics on here is incredible ~ love that it has android. The TTS feature was the main motivator and it's honestly better than I expected.
Nice!
This Boox Go 7 Color is the perfect daily companion to my Kindle Oasis. Hope it support PDF, EPUB, and MOBI ebook format just like Kindle. And lastly the USB-C port and micro SD slot are game changer.
The Go Color 7 supports basically every kind of format! Since it's android, you can also install apps if you find something is not supported or want a different reading experience
I can't put down my Go Color 7, despite the small annoyances that I've found with it, it's so cool to finally be able to read without any eye strain.
Nice!
I couldn't agree more! I also have a M1 12.9" iPad Pro & iPad Mini 5 both with pencils. And agree just too much distraction on top of battery life anxiety and twice as bulky and heavy inclined not to take with me. Even tho they are fantastic for Magazines,Comics,Science and Technical manuals. But for note taking,quick sketches and ebooks,Pdf's and more distraction free I also considering both of these.
Just a more focused super light thinnest pads for these functions and more comfortable use on the go without battery anxiety is a Big Plus for me. Planning on the Go 10.3" in a week and in Aug. to get the Go 7" as a replacement for my 7yr. old Kobo Aura H2o.
I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on them!
I didn't read all the comments, so forgive me if this is a repeat, but the pen does have magnets and can attach to the side of the Boox Go 10.3. It's not a strong connection, but is great to put the pen somewhere while you use your fingers to flip and scroll through pages.
Hey, thanks for sharing! You're right, I found the spot. It is very weak though, I definitely wouldn't trust it to hold the pencil in place.
@@PatrickRambles It will connect in two ways, one making contact with only one magnet. The pen should look centered on the side of the device (not towards the top). I find it very adequate to place the pen when I'm reading or something, and have no issue with walking around the house with it like that. Definitely not something you would put in a bag like that and expect to have the pen attached when pulling it back out though.
Boox styluses have actually 5 magnets alternating polarity from the centre towards the edges. The 2-dot sign in the middle is only a visual reference. There’s a limit in the magnets strength before they start to interfere with the eInk screen. That’s probably why the put so many and use alternating polarities for magnetism to help you find the good place. The idea is nice, but I have the feeling it would work way better if the edge wasn’t rounded…
Came to say the same. Also the pen actually attaches to the back of the device horizontal on the top, sides and bottom. I use it like this when carrying around the house as its much more stable. It also raises the device up off the table in this configuration. I will leave the pen in this place and use my other wacom stylus to take notes at my computer and the device is angled up just enough. Cheers. Good video!
I am looking for a e-reader the size of my iPad mini. This seems to fit the bill. And it’s color too so that’s a plus. Definitely worth a look.
Yeah the color is a nice touch 👌
The Onyx Boox Tab Mini C is the closest match to the Ipad Mini, and it's color too. The Go7 Color is awsome, but about an 1 inch smaller on the diagonal.
Interesting device. I like your approach on the use case of this. Thank you for sharing and happy Sunday!
Thanks, you too!
Thanks for another great overview of an interesting product. I’m gonna have to look into these
Thanks Chris!
I dont install any social media apps on my iphone or ipadpro M4. I only use it for hours of zoom meeting, ppt, excel, n medical apps. I hardly got distracted. I havent used my Boox Note Air 2 Plus and Note Air 3 C at all, somehow too laggy for what I need. But the Boox Go 10.3 looks so tempting..
I have iPads and several e-ink devices, although no Boox devices. If you have the money to try everything, give it a go. However, if you do not have an unlimited budget or credit line, get an iPad first. I use them for work and play, but mostly for work. I correspond with customers through email and text, do research for my job, prepare pdfs, etc. The 11 inch iPad is great for all of this and Apple Notes is an easy and versatile note taker that is getting better with each software update. E-ink is simply behind in most areas. Where it shines is in long note taking and battery life. By the way, if you go that route, get one with a front light system. The writing experience is more than fine and you will appreciate the ability to work in low light situations. Also, get something with a decent camera to be able to scan documents. Finally, although taken for granted, the Apple ecosystem is finally coming into its own and with more AI functions on the way can only get better. Finally, finally if you love to write on all sorts of paper and with different kinds of pens, buy paper and pens. Much cheaper to use and you can scan in your important notes without much trouble.
Man that 10.3" screen is... TEMPTING!
Oooh, that 10.3 one looks interesting!
Right?
Thank you for your comprehensive review! Im getting more and more sold on a Boox as opposed to a Kobo!
Thanks! Yeah they make good stuff 👌
Excellent input - thank you. New sub here. Wondering whether the ability to „move notes around“ also includes being able to lasso notes on certain notebooks and easily insert those into a completely different notebook, without endless clicking?
Thanks for the sub! Good question and I'm not too sure to be honest.
I have my iPad Pro 2014, but I feel you, regarding about this device’s purpose. I started reading and finding myself wanting to right more and such and if this feels and gives that vibe of doing stuff on a light natural paper, I’d consider it. Thank you for your kind advice.
I appreciate the comment!
@@PatrickRambles ….Thank you, I appreciate your input.
Love your videos Patrick. Have you tried this with the Kindle app?
Thanks! Yes, it works well :)
I am complete by you! the both are the best you can't at the moment! For all the rest I 'll take my iPhone pro with MacBook m2 and Apple Watch Ultra 2... All together is the prefect combo
There are so many squirrels in the iPads. I get distracted by them all the time. I know a few people getting these readers just for that reason. I 100% agree about the iPad Pro series. They are way over powered for the limitations of the IOS. I want to check into getting one of these, but my fear is I would never pick up my iPad Pro ever again. I like how you keep the Box Go limited on the apps you put on it. This would be great for meetings and other events I need to stay away from the squirrels
Haha, damn squirrels everywhere. For note-taking and PDF annotation, I really love the 10.3, Steve. The iPad still has its place for me, for emails, scrolling, and media consumption.
I can use the color 7 as a note taker?
Hey Patrick, is it possible for you to bring Magsafe power banks and smart wallet reviews? Cheers!
I see Ghent, I press like Ahaha
I’ve been playing with the idea of getting something like the 10” (or a kindle scribe, kobo, …) for note taking.
I already have a kindle libra for reading and I love it.
Haha, beautiful Ghent ❤️
@@PatrickRambles I don’t go there as often as I should 😅
@dexterie me either. But when I do, I remember why it's worth it :)
I really like the idea of these, I'm just not sure the price is justified. I can't wrap my head around paying hundreds for something a hardcopy book from the library and a $10notepad can provide. Sure convenience is there but there is just so much more functionality you can get with a used ipad air for the same price. There needs to be something between the ipad and the $10 notebook that actually makes sense in terms of cost. $2-300 for an 11inch screen would be something I could swallow to fit hundreds of notes and books in but otherwise, that $500 can get me a lot of notebook and a free library card.
@8:00 but the pen is magnetic? On the flat side. You probably already know this by now, just wanted to clarify.
Yes you're right. But it's not very strong and I found it difficult to find in comparison to the iPad.
Re: BOOX G0 7 Color. It's all in the reader software for me. As far as I can tell it has physical page turn buttons. Thanks, but I'll stick with my ipad mini which lets me turn to the next page by pressing on the left of the screen to turn pages (I'm a very fast reader and hold the ipad in my left hand so touching the screen with my thumb is really quick). Actually that is the problem with all ebook readers, so very slow turning pages. Too bad as I love everything else about the BOOX G0 7 Color.
The physical buttons are optional. You can tap the screen.
@@PatrickRambles Great! Is there an option to tap the left of the screen to page forward?
@peaceridge not sure, let me get back to you on that.
I have to read a lot of PDF files which is not aligned by the screen. Do you recommend 10.3 than Go 7 Color?
Personally, yes.
Go into depth about the tts option the only thing I have seen it’s only available for the boox library no outside apps
I tried the boox 8.9 and couldn’t get it to replace an odd keyboard even though I identified English. Has anyone experienced that and figured out way to fix
Were you able to get the buttons on the Go 7 to work in the Kindle app as page turners?
I think so. Let me double check and get back to you.
Why this instead of the Kindle for reading books?
Because with this you can read everything like for example magazines apps or your newspaper app, etc. You are not locked in on an ecosystem like Kindle
I wouldn’t care if my iPad had a 3 hour battery life, the utility of an iPad as my ereader with all of its functionality blows doors on anything out there.
It's precisely the iPads utility and additional functionality that makes me want to reach for something simpler for certain things (like reading). I get too distracted my everything I could be doing on the iPad. These e-ink devices make it much easier to focus on the task at hand. The added battery life is a nice bonus.
why is he using two watches?
Why not?
JK, it's not a watch. It's a Whoop band.
Show me a folding e ink tablet and you have my interest 😅
😅
Does this use cellular and wi-fi?
Wifi only.
👍
I got myself a Boox Air 2 some months ago. I agree on all the advantages for focus work, more reading, less distractions… but I have it now in a drawer and barely use it. For me synchronization is key. Same apps everywere. Everything ready from one device to another. I had to re-write my workflow to integrate the Boox and still not comfortable. The best I could do is to work around the clunky OneNote Android app as a common element among devices. But I kept missing Capacities and Apple Notes. So for my use case, Apple ecosystem is more convenient. But the device was a charm to use and offers better sync options than reMarkable. Try an iPad Mini with PaperLike and grey colour filter for a 70% there experience.
why do you have an ipad of you keep choosing this
Because I'm that cool.
It seems more of an alternative to the reMarkable and looks more flexible than the latter.
❤❤❤
And you will ditch those for a supernote
Cool
I don't have facebook on anything
Better.
Did you thank the waiter
Waitress. Yes I did :)
The scrolling looks worse than jelly scroll of the iPad Mini. Worth a comment? The refresh too maybe? That can be a usability consideration.
Hey! Yes the scrolling will be infinitely "worse". The reason for that is that this is e-ink. It's hard to explain but basically it's made of static frames where the e-ink is redistribute for every single frame. It makes the reading experience far superior, but fast scrolling will appear jarring. There are several settings to mitigate this, depending on the content. But these are definitely not built to view fast moving content.
Its E ink screen bro..not LCD screen like ipad..😂
@@serbaserbi9610 understand. And when you compare it to an iPad, then all differences are in play…: bro
@@srobbins31 LCD screen and E ink paper actually different processing work and function bro😂
Thanks for the review Patrick. I have been looking at e-Ink devices as I decide if I am going to pick up a new M4 iPad or a new MacBook Air and supplement it with something like the 10.3 instead of getting an iPad.
Are TEMU sale good and reliable cellphones? Please, do this test for me. I need a new cellphone 📱.
I absolutely love my Boox Go 10.3. it's a great device I even have the noteAir 3C but I prefer the black and white version awesome
What do you use it for mostly?
@@PatrickRambles taking notes and reading. Like you, I don't want the distractions. I only download reading apps, turn off notifications and put it in do not disturb mode. I then have pocket, and Kindle apps, along with Google drive and Google docs. But I'm mainly in the notes app and then download PDFs from Google drive. If I need to, I can hook up Bluetooth keyboard and type in Google docs.
@@PatrickRambles I use it mostly for notes but sometimes for reading. Like you, I don't download a ton of apps, mainly Kindle, pocket, Google drive and docs. I use Google drive to gain access to PDFs and if I need to type a document, I can use a Bluetooth keyboard and Google docs.
We ordered the Boox last week and started working on it immediately. The hardware is a joy to use and we were even able to hook up our external keyboard to type instead of using the pen. About 3 hours later, a massive storm rolled in, knocking out the power in our area - and of course the internet - for 2 days. We were never able to access the instruction manual at the time because that is CENTRALIZED under the control of Boox! We were never able to get our work backed up to the USB-C thumb drive we installed and there was no way to find out how to do so. All forums and discussions - except for youtube - are shielded behind Boox's firewall. WHAT kind of crazy idea is that? WHY couldn't they have put the instruction manual on the device itself?! No more Boox for us.
Love the Benchmade bugout!
It's awesome! Especially since my dumb*** found out last week you can actually wrist flick it open (after months of doing the thumb thing)...
Why nobody talks about how unstable and buggy Boox devices are? Apps constantly crash etc. I've had several of them.
I own boox go 10.3. Not a single crash after 1 month so far
Improving their products, I suppose.