Having originally gone for just a 13” iPad Pro for uni this year, and then being essentially forced to also then get a 16” Macbook (required for testing, literally CANNOT use the iPad), I FAR prefer the iPad between the two devices. It’s infinitely better for note taking - particularly when handwriting is dang near a necessity (math, chem, etc.) and well, a touch screen is insanely handy in general for intuitiveness. If I was forced to have only one, I’d also be forced to take the MacBook since there are things that iPadOS locks you out of (testing lol), but otherwise an iPad is 90% of the time just “better” for my personal use cases. I like what @techhubwiltsuk said, 2nd hand of both in order to still fit the budget is absolutely the move!
I simplify it differently ipad = play. casual. consume mac = play. casual. consume but with multiple tabs iphone = play. casual. consume and reels work = work laptop provided by company
@@ThatMarkGilroy you can use an iPad as casual if you want but many use there IPads professionally and it’s not just artist, teaches, doctors, airline pilots, coaches, just a few.
I have been using an iPad 10th gen as my main computer for 6 months now. I have learned a workflow that works for me and my life and work is pretty simple. I need a pencil input so…. Yeah. Love your work bro! Keep it up.
I was more impressed with the iPad Mini at the store today more than the iPad Pro. I won’t buy it until they make major improvements to the display, however. ProMotion is badly needed and I hope they drastically thin those absurdly thick bezels which not only look bad but waste potential display space on a tiny tablet where real estate should be maximized.
Well done video! I have both. I use both. I use the iPad more, both for work and for play. They are both really great devices in their own way. Feel fortunate to have both.
My first iPad was the iPad 2 I was 23. For a solid 2 years I used my iPad as a serious phone! Some 8 generations later I have the 13” iPad Pro M4 and I love it like I did back then.
@@LeesReviews69 That’s really interesting. My friend was telling me at the weekend how he can’t wait to downgrade his iPhone to a dumb phone and buy a new iPad to get everything else done.
MacBook is a creation device. iPad is a consumption device. I am a teacher and have been using keynote on MacBook for creating content and iPad for presenting while teaching and annotating as I teach.
@@himpat8 Wow- that’s really interesting. I’m that guy who’s always reaching for flipcharts in meetings and presentations. I’d never think to hook up my iPad and start annotating but I’ll definitely be trying that.
I think if you already own a laptop or a pc , than yes buy the iPad i only use my iPad for 99% for collage and the 1% on my MacBook Air , And the only reason i need my MacBook Air is because the iPad sucks for coding.
I’m so tempted to buy an iPad Pro, but the way I use iPad honestly I’d be fine with a lower end model, really interested in the upcoming iPad mini. Besides I already have a MacBook.
@@ThatMarkGilroy yeah I figured I better wait to see what the mini 7 is like before deciding, iPad Pro would break the bank a little bit too much to end up regretting it
I’d honestly save up to have both. Any M chip MacBook and an iPad mini I think is great for anyone. Just depends on your use case and how crazy you want to go with your MacBook budget. I use an M3 Max for school and also dabbling with AI, and my iPad mini is perfect for media consumption and note taking with the pencil.
I use a PC at work so I do not need a desktop at home for anything work related. So an iPad fits my use case perfectly. I do my browse research with notes app floating. So much easier to transfer images and links from safari. For my budget control the Numbers app although it’s very limited in its iPadOS version, still handle with easy a simple domestic sheet. With iCloud Drive (or any other cloud service) I can sync my files, share and manage with ease at Files app. I use a 12,9” iPad Pro due my eyesight. But I know the basic ipad will be enough for me.
Always buy a MacBook. The great thing about the IPad is you can use it alongside the MacBook as an extra monitor. So let’s stop comparing the two they work great together
Very detailed analysis. For me the bulk of my work is writing and document management. A few years ago I made the jump from macOS to iOS. iOS was mature enough to address my needs. In time I sold off my Mac hardware. I didn’t want duplicate gear on my desk and on the road. Now I use an iPad Pro M2. I have a Samsung monitor at home and some cables. Now my hardware is firmly iPhone and iPad. I even changed my email address from .macOS to iOS. About price. Whew both platforms are expensive with little difference in price.
@@ThatMarkGilroy Indeed. I waited and waited. Then I pulled the trigger at iPad 15. I also concluded the two platforms are different. iPad is fast and fun for sure. No more hierarchal filing. Let Spotlight retrieve those files. As Steve Jobs would have wanted😀 BTW I use a Logitech keyboard case. Better protection. It has held up very well. I take my iPad every where.
Last year, I decided to get the iPad. My reasoning was that the iPad is good enough for private useage. At work, we use a MacBook and I use my iPad to complement the MacBook to have an iPad + MacBook setup. This allowed me to work paperless.
with a ~$1k budget, any device with macOS. here's my reasoning: one could always read a book on a cumbersome MacBook, but not always do intense workflows on iPad.
I don’t know man. I always used my iPad for everything. I ended up getting a Magic Keyboard and it has become more than my everything… I usually lay down on the couch and the 11” size is the best thing ever for writing my papers on pages. I just got a macbook yesterday for an upgrade and even tho i chose the smallest one, its still feel too big and also the material is too slippery to have on you. It slides down on the duvet and anything i put it on. The edges are also hurting my wrists. Im really conflicted cause i actually appreciate the extras that come with the macbook, especially in pages.
I know what you mean about that slippery metal on the macbooks. Try installing a dbrand skin on - absolute gamechanger - I like the full sets that go inside on the wrist-rest too as it keeps everything pristene and adds a good amount of grip.
Buy MacBook, obviously an iPad is not a MacBook, the functionality of many apps is not the same, if you need to be highly productive, obviously buy a MacBook I would never substitute a MacBook with an iPad unless I was just surfing the Internet and checking email
I have bought almost all Mac models for different purposes and uses. The common feature of all of them is that they have M1 chip. For example, Studio M1 max, MacBook pro 16" M1 pro, MacBook Air 13.3" M1, Mac Mini M1, iPad pro 5th gen M1. My job is day trading and music. I can honestly say that I couldn't even push the processors. I use 3 4k monitors with Mac studio. I haven't even heard the fan noise yet. The reason I am writing these is that if you don't know the processor power required for the job you are doing, don't go for the latest model m4 m3 processors. Maybe you just need more RAM. I am extremely happy with every device I have purchased. If you have any questions, I can answer them.
ive got the M1 Macbook pro and an iPad mini, honestly the best combo i think, one is for work and productivity and one for media consumption, note taking, ebook reader. cant wait for the refresh on the mini lineup tbh, im not complaining about the current mini since i dont really notice the jelly scrolling or megabezels but yeah, its due for an update
iPad Pro + Mac mini + Vision Pro = no need of a Macbook anymore and more complete experience (and still transportable). And if the price of vision Pro is an issue, some efficient solution exist to use iPad as a monitor for the mac mini, and would still make it a better combo.
I actually have both now, I have used an iPad as my primary computer since the iPad 2nd Generation, and currently have the iPad Pro M1, 11” with keyboard and pencil. Two years ago I bought my first MacBook Air M2, (however I did own a Mac Mini 2012). I use my MacBook Air at work (in an office environment) doing office things. These days I use my iPad for consumption and taking on airplane trips. And don’t forget the AirPods Pro. I find both have their use cases.
That is what is the ipad for: netflix and news. Have some old one (with home button, no idea which gen) and is perfectly enough: for work have S23 ultra and win laptop with dock. Working on ipad is for me unnecesary compromise in all aspects, just worthless stretch:)
I made the mistake of an iPad for work, then realised it’s just a big iPhone. Buy a MacBook, don’t make the same mistake. You can’t even put a professional footer in an email on an iPad “Pro” - Not very “Pro”.
@@RidingLifesRoads yeah I think you’d have to have a VERY specific use case to make iPad work as a generic work computer. BTW - some apps will let you add professional footers to your email regardless of device (Spark Mail is a good one).
I like your way of thinking, gonna watch the ipad guide now🤔🤔 The last time I got an iPAD was in 2018, and that ipad pro is still working fine, which is honestly a bit crazy considering an iPhone wouldn't last me 6 years
Why choose between the two? My advice would be to get a Mac mini paired with the M2 iPad Air. With education discounts you can get both for around $1000 before tax. For me this is perfect because I have a powerful Mac computer when I’m at home and a highly portable iPad which can do anything I need to do on the go. I’m not a video editor so if you’re a professional this may not work for you. But for students or everyday people I would recommend this setup if you’re on a tight budget. You get the best of both worlds.
I’m not wrong thinking that the iPad was always a computer that focuses on a touch based user experience and the MacBook being a traditional computing experience. They both do similar tasks exceptionally well but in different ways. What do you prefer is what it comes down to most of the time.
@@ThatMarkGilroy I've always enjoyed working on creative stuff like photo editing and video editing more on my iPad because it allows you to use your hands more and I feel a bit more productive because of the limited multi-tasking. The only limitation has been very specific to some software choices and the reality with app switching is that we don't use one app for everything anymore. It strikes that balance of being focused on one task vs multi-tasking and the focus on one thing adds more to the productivity. I almost argue if you want to actually get stuff done and stay organized. You may be better with an iPad if software constraints do not bother you. There is almost an app for everything now. Including the screensharing possibilities. Even livestreaming gameplay with your camera on an ipad is now possible. I only found issues with web based platforms that rely on the cloud a lot. I'm still waiting for a native Descript application for my editing.
Thanks for the shout out @ThatMarkGilroy. Maybe if I save enough pennies from RUclips I might treat myself to a MacBook and see what everyone is talking about 😂
Bought the ipad air m2 11"inch because of work. Unfortunately, it doesn't support CVAT - a data engine learning that supports various annotation tasks and formats. Now, I'm selling it. Shall I keep it? 😢
I want to own only a smartphone and a laptop, to simplify my life and live as minimal as possible. The more devices you own the more stress you put on your everyday life, for example: to upgrade a device and this can affect also your budget significantly. For example if you own an iPhone,Iwatch,Ipad,macbook,airpods etc. and you upgrade all of them every 3-5 years, it is an insane increase in your budget, when you can put all this money on stock or cryptos and make you more money. I mean it is definitely not a good investment. Also increasing the number of devices surely will increase also your subrscriptions to stream platflorms with an extra cost.
The cheapest iPad and the iPad Mini will struggle with those tasks. I’d look at the latest iPad Air which is a great device for gaming and will sail through lightroom and photoshop editing.
I love my iPad Pro 12.9" (2020) and my iPad mini 6th gen, but for the money the MacBook Air M3 is the way to go. iPads are more for consumption and simple stuff. Laptops are all in one whereas iPad you have to spend more money for keyboards, mouse, dongles to connect to other devices, external storage, pencils, etc. I feel like if Apple can have touch technology for iPads and the use of the pencil, why not bring that tech to the MacBook laptops? Not to mention, the work arounds needed to use word, excel, etc. I mean its easy enough to learn but you basically have to learn two ways to do one thing if you are using iPad and MacBooks.
As a professional artist who travels a lot having a celular iPad is so much better than a laptop which I have learned from experience. unless you’re a graphic designer or a professional artist of some kind just get the MacBook or iPad Air lol
@@ThatMarkGilroy the smaller one is the one I got. It’s plenty big enough and it fits in my purse and i can hold it comfortably with one hand since the m4 is so light. I think the 13 would be just a little too big to be convenient and portable. The iPad also has access to PadOS only apps like ToonSquid and procreate which makes it cheaper to use since I don’t have to pay for a subscription for adobe. The pencil is also super good. With a Mac id have to get a Wacom and carry a bunch of wires around everywhere and shell out more money for toonboom or adobe suite. My needs are very neiche tho I’ll admit. I already have a gaming laptop for heavier tasks anyway.
@@codexous Hello mate. The screen protector, pencil grip AND pencil tips are all from Paperlike. paperlike.com/thatmarkgilroy (they work out cheaper if you buy them in a bundle).
@@ThatMarkGilroyRight. So I just got around to watching the video because the Apple product announcement played this morning and I had to take care of a few other things. But for years my setup was a Desktop Mac Mini, then an iMac with an iPad as my portable. It wasn’t until last year that I bought my first MacBook and it was the first laptop I’ve owned since 2012. I’ve found that by using the Desktop Mac the “Mother ship” as it were and all the other devices part of the ecosystem surrounding that you end up with a very smooth flowing computing ecosystem with plenty of convince and redundancy. People seem to want to get one device thats going to do everything, and that’s just not the way it works. Is it more expensive? Yes it is but it also works better, and because Apple devices last a long time you don’t have to get everything all at once. Just get something new once a year or so and add it to your productivity flow. If you’re new to Apple I recommend getting a Mac mini and add a keyboard mouse and monitor, get an Apple Phone, then get an iPad. It’s going to be unlike anything you’ll get from Windows and android. You can upgrade your setup later.
The iPad has been around for a decade. The iPad is still as smart and dumb as the original iPad. A few alterations, like landscape mode and the camera is finally where it belongs. So I’m with you on your main concern. I’ll keep buying the iPad Pro, because I can 😂🚨 I recon you get my humor 👍🙏
I think instead of paper and scissors, its more like staples and glue? They are both tools that do roughly the same job (attach two objects together) but they are each unique enough that you wouldnt want try staple documents together with glue or try and stick a piece of paper into a book using staples. The small differences in how they complete the same job make them wholly unique for their specific purposes. Then there is something like a surface pro, I'm not really sure how that fits in the analogy haha
2 completely different use cases. I just bought the new iPad Air 13" for use when I don't want or need the keyboard (ie: reading a book, surfing the web). A couple of months ago I bought an MBA M3 with 24GB of RAM for when I'm doing work where it's keyboard dependent. My main driver is a Mac Studio M2 with 32GB RAM and it sits right next to my work computer (I'm WFH). Now I've got to figure out what to do with my 2015 15" MBP with 16GB... still useful but no security updates.
@@ThatMarkGilroy For sure. Bit of a battery bump and a promotion display and it’d be hands down the best iPad ever made even if it doesn’t get an M series chip and gets the A18 instead
@@ThatMarkGilroy in all seriousness i think both ipad and mac have their unique rolls. i have both and i can say i find myself using my ipad more for work and my macbook just to serf through the internet
Yeah this video helped me. I need a MacBook. I have a 10.5 inch iPad Pro. And this iPad will help me do all my iPad things. But i need now to get something to help me do mac things. iPad i can upgrade later.
I think that iPads are a gateway drug to the Apple ecosystem, more so than iPhones even. Any of the M-series Macbooks will see you right for years and years.
@@ThatMarkGilroy My 2011 MacBook Pro lasted me till 2023. Doesn’t hold a charge anymore now it has been repurposed as my Mac home server. iPad 10.5 inch iPad Pro has been my go to device and my daily driver, i could continue using the iPad Pro but the 4gb is limited and also i have done the trainings in Swift playgrounds now want to test out a little more.
I had a MacBook Air but never used it, it was brand new and sat on the shelf inside a sleeve for months, where as I used my iPad on a daily basis, for me a iPad was a much better option, I wasted my $$$ cause I really wanted a MacBook, cause when I traded it in I didn’t get nearly the amount I paid for it, even after doing research looking for the better price, I did weigh my options before buying the MacBook, don’t get me wrong, it was a really nice device, sleek looking, but absolutely useless to me, lol just my 2 cents, think before you buy
I think it’s good that Apple offer a full 30 return period with no questions asked. It’s so important to get these things in your hands and use them outside of an Apple Store.
I’d definitely like to test a Samsung foldable and tablet at some point to see how they stack up. I know quite a few people who combo an iPhone with a Samsung tablet.
Hi Mark, I just sold my soul and bought the 11” and 13” pros(the smaller one is definitely better for travelling). They are very slippery. I feel more relaxed now that the cases and screen protectors have arrived. ☕️😎
it would be more accurate to do you want a laptop or an tablet. the ipad isnt going to replace a macbook in any world . the macbooks other than not being able to use all ipad apps can do everything an ipad can better . most people need a laptop and a phone getting a tablet is for pleasure and never necessary for anything
@@ThatMarkGilroy I traded in my M2 iPad Air to the MacBook m2 air earlier this year as I missed my keyboard and other functions, but now going to trade that in for a beefier MacBook Air and maybe an iPad mini after watching your newly found page lol
If you had a fixed budget of $1000 / £1000, what portable device would you buy?
@@ThatMarkGilroy a second hand m1 MacBook Air and a iPad Pro m1 second hand! Best of both worlds 🤪😉
@@techhubwiltsuk Love this choice. 👍🏻
Having originally gone for just a 13” iPad Pro for uni this year, and then being essentially forced to also then get a 16” Macbook (required for testing, literally CANNOT use the iPad), I FAR prefer the iPad between the two devices. It’s infinitely better for note taking - particularly when handwriting is dang near a necessity (math, chem, etc.) and well, a touch screen is insanely handy in general for intuitiveness. If I was forced to have only one, I’d also be forced to take the MacBook since there are things that iPadOS locks you out of (testing lol), but otherwise an iPad is 90% of the time just “better” for my personal use cases. I like what @techhubwiltsuk said, 2nd hand of both in order to still fit the budget is absolutely the move!
Asus vivobook with at least a Ryzen 7. And a google pixel 8.
MBA M2 with as much memory as I could get... that's given my current use case.
agreed !
I simplify my life like this:
Mac = work. formal. produce.
iPad = play. casual. consume.
imo.
@@YoghurtEquity I like that distinction.
I simplify it differently
ipad = play. casual. consume
mac = play. casual. consume but with multiple tabs
iphone = play. casual. consume and reels
work = work laptop provided by company
@@ThatMarkGilroy you can use an iPad as casual if you want but many use there IPads professionally and it’s not just artist, teaches, doctors, airline pilots, coaches, just a few.
I use iPad for both professional and casual. It knows it is a versatile product and does excellent job. I am engineer and bring laptop to site visit.
Fully agreeing, however the mini 6, works very well as a travel companion, I've access to 98% of the systems at my work etc.
I have been using an iPad 10th gen as my main computer for 6 months now. I have learned a workflow that works for me and my life and work is pretty simple. I need a pencil input so…. Yeah. Love your work bro! Keep it up.
Thanks mate. So many people sleeping on that 10th gen model!
@@ThatMarkGilroyI’m using a iPad Air 5
Me too, hardly touch my MacBook pro now. The workflow irks much better than Mac. I’m not a creative btw, but a consultant in a bank
Finally, someone can explain the problem comparing iPad with MacBooks and put so elegantly with the paper and scissor analogy
@@techhubwiltsuk I was trying to find a stone to throw into the analogy to complete the trio!
For $1,000 the M1 Mac Mini with a monitor and an M1 IPad Air would be an amazing combo.
I love this set-up! If you weren't picky with your monitor you could have a bit of change left over too.
I was more impressed with the iPad Mini at the store today more than the iPad Pro. I won’t buy it until they make major improvements to the display, however. ProMotion is badly needed and I hope they drastically thin those absurdly thick bezels which not only look bad but waste potential display space on a tiny tablet where real estate should be maximized.
@@georgewashington3012 fingers crossed for a bit of news this week on the Mini front 🤞🏼
@@ThatMarkGilroydon’t expect too much. foldable iphone is the way Apple to go with small ios based tablet. they do not care much for ipad mini.
Well done video! I have both. I use both. I use the iPad more, both for work and for play. They are both really great devices in their own way. Feel fortunate to have both.
@@jimtipton8888 Thanks Jim. I’m using mine more too!
My first iPad was the iPad 2 I was 23. For a solid 2 years I used my iPad as a serious phone! Some 8 generations later I have the 13” iPad Pro M4 and I love it like I did back then.
@@LeesReviews69 That’s really interesting. My friend was telling me at the weekend how he can’t wait to downgrade his iPhone to a dumb phone and buy a new iPad to get everything else done.
MacBook is a creation device.
iPad is a consumption device.
I am a teacher and have been using keynote on MacBook for creating content and iPad for presenting while teaching and annotating as I teach.
@@himpat8 Wow- that’s really interesting. I’m that guy who’s always reaching for flipcharts in meetings and presentations. I’d never think to hook up my iPad and start annotating but I’ll definitely be trying that.
Personally, I use my IPad Air M2 as a creative device. I use it to draw and animate, photo edit and write comics.
I love my $5,500 M2 Max MBP and my new $3,000 13in M4 IPad Bro 1TB 🙌🏼 Never owned an iPad before. I will be using both!
@@LukeSchaeferFilms Is an iPad Bro one of those iPads that you only see on trading floors? 😉
I think if you already own a laptop or a pc , than yes buy the iPad i only use my iPad for 99% for collage and the 1% on my MacBook Air , And the only reason i need my MacBook Air is because the iPad sucks for coding.
I’m so tempted to buy an iPad Pro, but the way I use iPad honestly I’d be fine with a lower end model, really interested in the upcoming iPad mini. Besides I already have a MacBook.
Oh yes I’m keeping my ear to the ground for Mini news!
@@ThatMarkGilroy yeah I figured I better wait to see what the mini 7 is like before deciding, iPad Pro would break the bank a little bit too much to end up regretting it
Awaiting as well. Will the iPad mini 7 be announced tomorrow, or in an October event.
MacBook users will only be happy and stop complaining about iPads when macs get a touch screen.
It is pretty easy choice if you use the products as intended by the manufacturer instead of forcing your own ideas.
I’d honestly save up to have both. Any M chip MacBook and an iPad mini I think is great for anyone. Just depends on your use case and how crazy you want to go with your MacBook budget. I use an M3 Max for school and also dabbling with AI, and my iPad mini is perfect for media consumption and note taking with the pencil.
I use a PC at work so I do not need a desktop at home for anything work related. So an iPad fits my use case perfectly. I do my browse research with notes app floating. So much easier to transfer images and links from safari.
For my budget control the Numbers app although it’s very limited in its iPadOS version, still handle with easy a simple domestic sheet.
With iCloud Drive (or any other cloud service) I can sync my files, share and manage with ease at Files app.
I use a 12,9” iPad Pro due my eyesight. But I know the basic ipad will be enough for me.
Waiting impatiently for the new iPad Mini. Hoping it gets announced tomorrow, but will wait (til October?) if I have to.
Thanks for the content.
@@pug_63 You and me both. 👍🏻
Always buy a MacBook. The great thing about the IPad is you can use it alongside the MacBook as an extra monitor. So let’s stop comparing the two they work great together
Very detailed analysis. For me the bulk of my work is writing and document management. A few years ago I made the jump from macOS to iOS. iOS was mature enough to address my needs.
In time I sold off my Mac hardware. I didn’t want duplicate gear on my desk and on the road. Now I use an iPad Pro M2. I have a Samsung monitor at home and some cables. Now my hardware is firmly iPhone and iPad. I even changed my email address from .macOS to iOS.
About price. Whew both platforms are expensive with little difference in price.
Thanks Rick. I think you must have been one of the earlier adopters of an iPad-only setup!
@@ThatMarkGilroy Indeed. I waited and waited. Then I pulled the trigger at iPad 15. I also concluded the two platforms are different. iPad is fast and fun for sure. No more hierarchal filing. Let Spotlight retrieve those files. As Steve Jobs would have wanted😀
BTW I use a Logitech keyboard case. Better protection. It has held up very well. I take my iPad every where.
Last year, I decided to get the iPad. My reasoning was that the iPad is good enough for private useage. At work, we use a MacBook and I use my iPad to complement the MacBook to have an iPad + MacBook setup. This allowed me to work paperless.
That's an awesome setup!
with a ~$1k budget, any device with macOS.
here's my reasoning:
one could always read a book on a cumbersome MacBook, but not always do intense workflows on iPad.
I have to agree with ya, although, the *one* thing the mac simply cannot do is take notes 😔
Yep. Can totally see this reasoning.
@@codexousI have Apple notes and obsidian on my MacBook? Do you just mean that it’s more cumbersome to do so, because that is definitely true.
I imagine they mean hand-written notes.
I don’t know man. I always used my iPad for everything. I ended up getting a Magic Keyboard and it has become more than my everything… I usually lay down on the couch and the 11” size is the best thing ever for writing my papers on pages. I just got a macbook yesterday for an upgrade and even tho i chose the smallest one, its still feel too big and also the material is too slippery to have on you. It slides down on the duvet and anything i put it on. The edges are also hurting my wrists. Im really conflicted cause i actually appreciate the extras that come with the macbook, especially in pages.
I know what you mean about that slippery metal on the macbooks. Try installing a dbrand skin on - absolute gamechanger - I like the full sets that go inside on the wrist-rest too as it keeps everything pristene and adds a good amount of grip.
Buy MacBook, obviously an iPad is not a MacBook, the functionality of many apps is not the same, if you need to be highly productive, obviously buy a MacBook I would never substitute a MacBook with an iPad unless I was just surfing the Internet and checking email
I have bought almost all Mac models for different purposes and uses.
The common feature of all of them is that they have M1 chip. For example,
Studio M1 max,
MacBook pro 16" M1 pro,
MacBook Air 13.3" M1,
Mac Mini M1,
iPad pro 5th gen M1.
My job is day trading and music. I can honestly say that I couldn't even push the processors. I use 3 4k monitors with Mac studio. I haven't even heard the fan noise yet.
The reason I am writing these is that if you don't know the processor power required for the job you are doing, don't go for the latest model m4 m3 processors.
Maybe you just need more RAM. I am extremely happy with every device I have purchased.
If you have any questions, I can answer them.
ive got the M1 Macbook pro and an iPad mini, honestly the best combo i think, one is for work and productivity and one for media consumption, note taking, ebook reader. cant wait for the refresh on the mini lineup tbh, im not complaining about the current mini since i dont really notice the jelly scrolling or megabezels but yeah, its due for an update
Yeah, I never had an issue with jelly scroll either. 🤷🏻♂️
Thank you for the explaination. Really helped me a lot on making a decision. I will be purchasing MacBook pro.
You’re welcome Amit!
iPad Pro + Mac mini + Vision Pro = no need of a Macbook anymore and more complete experience (and still transportable).
And if the price of vision Pro is an issue, some efficient solution exist to use iPad as a monitor for the mac mini, and would still make it a better combo.
That's a really interesting loadout. Would never have thought of combining the Mac Mini with Vision Pro for a portable setup!
@@ThatMarkGilroy so you still have macOS, not just VisionOS
I actually have both now, I have used an iPad as my primary computer since the iPad 2nd Generation, and currently have the iPad Pro M1, 11” with keyboard and pencil. Two years ago I bought my first MacBook Air M2, (however I did own a Mac Mini 2012).
I use my MacBook Air at work (in an office environment) doing office things. These days I use my iPad for consumption and taking on airplane trips. And don’t forget the AirPods Pro. I find both have their use cases.
Ha, I realised as I was editing this that after listing all those 'pro' devices I'd forgotten the Airpods Pro and Pro Max.
That is what is the ipad for: netflix and news. Have some old one (with home button, no idea which gen) and is perfectly enough: for work have S23 ultra and win laptop with dock. Working on ipad is for me unnecesary compromise in all aspects, just worthless stretch:)
Couldn’t decide. Got both. ✅
Fair decision!
Loved to see the pre-“sweetened” video/audio!
My studio is REALLY wet / echo-y. Thank goodness I can sort it out in post!
I made the mistake of an iPad for work, then realised it’s just a big iPhone. Buy a MacBook, don’t make the same mistake. You can’t even put a professional footer in an email on an iPad “Pro” - Not very “Pro”.
@@RidingLifesRoads yeah I think you’d have to have a VERY specific use case to make iPad work as a generic work computer. BTW - some apps will let you add professional footers to your email regardless of device (Spark Mail is a good one).
7:41 what is that on the outside that made your ipad and macbook look so nice? Is it like a case or something? Where can i get it
@@luanmoin3368 It’s a skin from dbrand. They have loads to choose from but this one is called Sea Breeze.
I like your way of thinking, gonna watch the ipad guide now🤔🤔
The last time I got an iPAD was in 2018, and that ipad pro is still working fine, which is honestly a bit crazy considering an iPhone wouldn't last me 6 years
I had the 2018 iPad Pro too. That thing was a beast!
So much clarity 🎉
Thanks Karan! Glad you enjoyed this one.
Why choose between the two? My advice would be to get a Mac mini paired with the M2 iPad Air. With education discounts you can get both for around $1000 before tax. For me this is perfect because I have a powerful Mac computer when I’m at home and a highly portable iPad which can do anything I need to do on the go. I’m not a video editor so if you’re a professional this may not work for you. But for students or everyday people I would recommend this setup if you’re on a tight budget. You get the best of both worlds.
Yep - I make this point in my conclusion. No real point having two portable devices.
I have both, that‘s it!
I’m not wrong thinking that the iPad was always a computer that focuses on a touch based user experience and the MacBook being a traditional computing experience.
They both do similar tasks exceptionally well but in different ways. What do you prefer is what it comes down to most of the time.
Yep. I feel the same frustration when people talk about bringing touch to the Mac. Let them be their own things.
@@ThatMarkGilroy I've always enjoyed working on creative stuff like photo editing and video editing more on my iPad because it allows you to use your hands more and I feel a bit more productive because of the limited multi-tasking. The only limitation has been very specific to some software choices and the reality with app switching is that we don't use one app for everything anymore.
It strikes that balance of being focused on one task vs multi-tasking and the focus on one thing adds more to the productivity.
I almost argue if you want to actually get stuff done and stay organized. You may be better with an iPad if software constraints do not bother you. There is almost an app for everything now. Including the screensharing possibilities.
Even livestreaming gameplay with your camera on an ipad is now possible. I only found issues with web based platforms that rely on the cloud a lot. I'm still waiting for a native Descript application for my editing.
Great content, thank you for sharing, where did you find your back protection for the iPad? I can't find it on Paperlike's website, Thanks
@@kevinrinaldo8304 the blue cover? It’s a skin from dbrand - called Sea Breeze.
Great video! Where did you get the Macbook with blue wave design around the logo from the thumbnail? Is it a special edition by Apple?
@@Redukteur It’s a skin by dBrand. I have the same one on my iPad too because I’m a massive nerd.
Thanks for the shout out @ThatMarkGilroy. Maybe if I save enough pennies from RUclips I might treat myself to a MacBook and see what everyone is talking about 😂
Anytime!
Bought the ipad air m2 11"inch because of work. Unfortunately, it doesn't support CVAT - a data engine learning that supports various annotation tasks and formats. Now, I'm selling it. Shall I keep it? 😢
Noooo!! If you can find a use for it at home you might as well keep it.
I am in love with this skin of ipad. Looks awesome even on mac
It's so nice. It's dbrand's collab with Ali Abdaal. I cover it in a bit more detail in my recent desk setup upgrades video.
I want to own only a smartphone and a laptop, to simplify my life and live as minimal as possible. The more devices you own the more stress you put on your everyday life, for example: to upgrade a device and this can affect also your budget significantly. For example if you own an iPhone,Iwatch,Ipad,macbook,airpods etc. and you upgrade all of them every 3-5 years, it is an insane increase in your budget, when you can put all this money on stock or cryptos and make you more money. I mean it is definitely not a good investment. Also increasing the number of devices surely will increase also your subrscriptions to stream platflorms with an extra cost.
Will the cheapest iPad edit photos in Lightroom and Photoshop really well? Do I need a pro for that and games?
The cheapest iPad and the iPad Mini will struggle with those tasks. I’d look at the latest iPad Air which is a great device for gaming and will sail through lightroom and photoshop editing.
@@ThatMarkGilroy thank you
I love my iPad Pro 12.9" (2020) and my iPad mini 6th gen, but for the money the MacBook Air M3 is the way to go. iPads are more for consumption and simple stuff. Laptops are all in one whereas iPad you have to spend more money for keyboards, mouse, dongles to connect to other devices, external storage, pencils, etc. I feel like if Apple can have touch technology for iPads and the use of the pencil, why not bring that tech to the MacBook laptops? Not to mention, the work arounds needed to use word, excel, etc. I mean its easy enough to learn but you basically have to learn two ways to do one thing if you are using iPad and MacBooks.
As a professional artist who travels a lot having a celular iPad is so much better than a laptop which I have learned from experience. unless you’re a graphic designer or a professional artist of some kind just get the MacBook or iPad Air lol
I bet it is! Does it matter to have the larger screen vs the smaller one?
@@ThatMarkGilroy the smaller one is the one I got. It’s plenty big enough and it fits in my purse and i can hold it comfortably with one hand since the m4 is so light. I think the 13 would be just a little too big to be convenient and portable. The iPad also has access to PadOS only apps like ToonSquid and procreate which makes it cheaper to use since I don’t have to pay for a subscription for adobe. The pencil is also super good. With a Mac id have to get a Wacom and carry a bunch of wires around everywhere and shell out more money for toonboom or adobe suite. My needs are very neiche tho I’ll admit. I already have a gaming laptop for heavier tasks anyway.
just get both
Could you direct me to where I can find one of those apple pencil grips? They look great
@@codexous Hello mate. The screen protector, pencil grip AND pencil tips are all from Paperlike. paperlike.com/thatmarkgilroy (they work out cheaper if you buy them in a bundle).
@@ThatMarkGilroy thank you so much!
Just based on the title I would recommend buying both. If you have one of the things then get the other one. Both devices compliment each other.
Can recommend watching the video for my take on this. The conclusion if nothing else!
@@ThatMarkGilroyRight. So I just got around to watching the video because the Apple product announcement played this morning and I had to take care of a few other things. But for years my setup was a Desktop Mac Mini, then an iMac with an iPad as my portable. It wasn’t until last year that I bought my first MacBook and it was the first laptop I’ve owned since 2012. I’ve found that by using the Desktop Mac the “Mother ship” as it were and all the other devices part of the ecosystem surrounding that you end up with a very smooth flowing computing ecosystem with plenty of convince and redundancy. People seem to want to get one device thats going to do everything, and that’s just not the way it works. Is it more expensive? Yes it is but it also works better, and because Apple devices last a long time you don’t have to get everything all at once. Just get something new once a year or so and add it to your productivity flow.
If you’re new to Apple I recommend getting a Mac mini and add a keyboard mouse and monitor, get an Apple Phone, then get an iPad. It’s going to be unlike anything you’ll get from Windows and android. You can upgrade your setup later.
@@mendodave Loved these insights. Thanks sir.
my perspective always was: Artist? (or similar occupation) get an iPad.
Everything else: get a Macbook
I’d go along with that!
Ipad = scribbling; play; note taking; content; read more
Windows = For Legacy & everyhting else
MacBook = Everything & Not multitasking
I like that distinction! Just released a new video on iPads and note taking: ruclips.net/video/EIj4szhbqfA/видео.html
MacOS ... it's not the device, it's the software .. Apple knows this and it is why they haven't put MacOS on the iPad
Good point.
The iPad has been around for a decade. The iPad is still as smart and dumb as the original iPad. A few alterations, like landscape mode and the camera is finally where it belongs. So I’m with you on your main concern. I’ll keep buying the iPad Pro, because I can 😂🚨 I recon you get my humor 👍🙏
I'd say neither and get something that costs less and can do more.
Interesting - what sort of thing were you thinking?
@@ThatMarkGilroy It's not an apple product that's for sure.
If you’re younger you go for the iPad only. Walk the library and see.
Good point
I think instead of paper and scissors, its more like staples and glue? They are both tools that do roughly the same job (attach two objects together) but they are each unique enough that you wouldnt want try staple documents together with glue or try and stick a piece of paper into a book using staples. The small differences in how they complete the same job make them wholly unique for their specific purposes.
Then there is something like a surface pro, I'm not really sure how that fits in the analogy haha
@@JoeNokers 😂 yep, that’s a much better analogy!!
2 completely different use cases. I just bought the new iPad Air 13" for use when I don't want or need the keyboard (ie: reading a book, surfing the web). A couple of months ago I bought an MBA M3 with 24GB of RAM for when I'm doing work where it's keyboard dependent. My main driver is a Mac Studio M2 with 32GB RAM and it sits right next to my work computer (I'm WFH). Now I've got to figure out what to do with my 2015 15" MBP with 16GB... still useful but no security updates.
Would a MacBook Air be able to cope with Excel?
@@juliepeppitt9253 All day long.
valid great video my kind of guy
Thanks mate.
Neither. Galaxy Tab S9 Ultra when it goes on sale and probably have change for a budget laptop
Macbook Pro if you can afford it and max it out despite what many youtubers say.
@@jaygreentree4394 I maxed out that M1 Max and it’s still flying.
i own both and many other apple products. apple should make a light weight version of their os on the same products. the world will be different then.
That would be a great leveller.
If you’re on a budget and can’t decide just get an Apple refurbished MacBook Air M1, and a second hand iPad mini imo
Nice setup. The Mini and Air combo is good for almost anything. That Mini just needs a couple of tweaks and then for me it's the perfect tablet.
@@ThatMarkGilroy For sure. Bit of a battery bump and a promotion display and it’d be hands down the best iPad ever made even if it doesn’t get an M series chip and gets the A18 instead
There is a reason why small devices like iPhone and iPad mini cannot use m Chip, because it would drain the battery very fast
Buy both
@@Yeahthatguy617 This seems to be the general consensus
@@ThatMarkGilroy in all seriousness i think both ipad and mac have their unique rolls.
i have both and i can say i find myself using my ipad more for work and my macbook just to serf through the internet
I love MacBook Air !
It's a great halfway house between an iPad and a full-blown Macbook Pro!
Yeah this video helped me.
I need a MacBook. I have a 10.5 inch iPad Pro. And this iPad will help me do all my iPad things. But i need now to get something to help me do mac things. iPad i can upgrade later.
I think that iPads are a gateway drug to the Apple ecosystem, more so than iPhones even. Any of the M-series Macbooks will see you right for years and years.
@@ThatMarkGilroy My 2011 MacBook Pro lasted me till 2023. Doesn’t hold a charge anymore now it has been repurposed as my Mac home server. iPad 10.5 inch iPad Pro has been my go to device and my daily driver, i could continue using the iPad Pro but the 4gb is limited and also i have done the trainings in Swift playgrounds now want to test out a little more.
great video
@@korenbezalel3100 Thanks Koren!
I had a MacBook Air but never used it, it was brand new and sat on the shelf inside a sleeve for months, where as I used my iPad on a daily basis, for me a iPad was a much better option, I wasted my $$$ cause I really wanted a MacBook, cause when I traded it in I didn’t get nearly the amount I paid for it, even after doing research looking for the better price, I did weigh my options before buying the MacBook, don’t get me wrong, it was a really nice device, sleek looking, but absolutely useless to me, lol just my 2 cents, think before you buy
I think it’s good that Apple offer a full 30 return period with no questions asked. It’s so important to get these things in your hands and use them outside of an Apple Store.
I went from Samsung tablet to iPad. Next one will be a Samsung. Much easier to use.
I’d definitely like to test a Samsung foldable and tablet at some point to see how they stack up. I know quite a few people who combo an iPhone with a Samsung tablet.
If you have an iPhone you don't need any of them
Interesting. Can you say more about that take?
Why are like 90% of 'CONTENT CREATORS' British?
What makes you think I’m British?
neither
Or neither. Lol
That's my kind of thinking - typical Northern Brit approach. Keep the money!
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None. Buy a oneplus tablet
@@alexandrumacovei7174 I saw this reviewed on Byte Review’s channel this week. Looks great 👍🏻
Laptops don't have cellular, cameras, touchscreens, pencil support etc. They are also very cumbersome for travel compared to an iPad. ☕️😎🦘
@@Lee.Freeman My MBP is portable but I always can feel it in my bag. My iPad though- barely notice it’s there!
Hi Mark, I just sold my soul and bought the 11” and 13” pros(the smaller one is definitely better for travelling). They are very slippery. I feel more relaxed now that the cases and screen protectors have arrived. ☕️😎
@@Lee.Freeman I felt the same way about my titanium iPhone. Beautiful but waaaaaay too slippery. Skins and cases all round!
Just buy both of them (what i did ) 🥱 I don’t speak broke 🫵🤡
😂😂😂
Here I am still rocking a 2014 MacBook Pro 😂
Rock away my friend!
it would be more accurate to do you want a laptop or an tablet. the ipad isnt going to replace a macbook in any world . the macbooks other than not being able to use all ipad apps can do everything an ipad can better . most people need a laptop and a phone getting a tablet is for pleasure and never necessary for anything
@@abz7800 yep. As I said in a previous video- the iPad is a solution looking for a problem.
Also make sure to select the correct memory for your needs! I bought a 10th gen iPad and it’s almost ‘memory is full’ stage
Yes memory is important!!
Very good review actually thanks for sharing 👌
Cheers Craig.
I'm in the market for an iPad. My ipad mini 2 just died.
Both
Nice. Which ones?
A MacBook with a cellular antenna would be welcome
brilliant! thank you!
@@maquestiauartandmore Thanks Dani! Which one are you leaning towards?
@@ThatMarkGilroy I traded in my M2 iPad Air to the MacBook m2 air earlier this year as I missed my keyboard and other functions, but now going to trade that in for a beefier MacBook Air and maybe an iPad mini after watching your newly found page lol