I’m running a 2650 Black Jacket with Mamba X in my trx4. Inside it’s loud outside it’s not bad. And power to spare. I crawled it and did doughnuts and wheelies. Worth every penny and Tom’s customer service is great.
Outrunner have roughly four times the torque of other motors of the same size. Adding a sensor makes an outrunner that much better. I had a very early sensored Revolver(on 4s)in my Trailfinder, it'd crawl extremely slow and still hit 20mph. I had to gear it way down an run it on 3s. Didn't want to break the rig. That motor still runs extremely well and powerful. It's been in King Midas 6x6 for about 6-7 years now.
Sweet! That's a lot of power out of such a small outrunner... Amazon has some $25 Flash Hobby airplane outrunners that actually work pretty well on a 10BL120 sensored ESC (no more noisy than that). They're rated at 3-4S but I've been running 2S and they work fine. I super glued the magnets to make sure they don't come loose. Only downside is the 5mm shaft. 1100KV with a 13-15mm pinion is pretty good. Their website has specs
My fusion se 1800kv came in yesterday and so did my DSM strap, thanks for the sticker Joe!! Fast fast shipping! Let me know when you get more hex tools on the site sir, please and thankyou!
Those Fusion motors are quietly the best thing in crawling. Powerful, smooth, SILENT and you can tune the FOC output. Only problem with them is length relative to similarly powered motors in some applications. I'd take these all day over my HH Revolvers if I am being honest.
My HK hobbies 35k+ got here today whooo soon as my jst adapter comes in I'm gonna shove it on 3s and see what it's got I dont know what I'm gonna put it in yet tho lol
This motor will work with any brushless esc. For some reason guys have a hard on only using castle when others have the exact same and sometimes more tuning permitters. These motors are great though
Sounds like an old, rusty, never washed, (ford, dodge, or chevy) truck that's been muddin', not washed truck that's heading to town for a trip with the family!🤪😁
For anyone who thinks the noise won't bother you, and before you go drop hundreds of dollars on these motors and esc's, consider those you crawl with and your neighbours. I have 3 of these outrunner motors, and I can only use them under special circumstances due to the noise. It is NOT something that everyone (or even most people...) will be OK with. Now it is possible that my setup (I have a snubnose revolver on a CC Mamba X and two 540 revolvers on CC SW4's) is louder than most, or that my settings contribute to the noise - but neither system is relaxing to run. My wife says they sounds like amplified dental drills...
It's not so much the motor. The esc's pwm frequency is too low. That's the whine you hear. To get rid of it, you must run a faster processor in the esc. Then write new code for that processor. None of my DIY brushless systems make any noise. But are 32 bit esc's that I can adjust the pwm.
I'm super confused. Part of the reason to use an outrunner motor for crawling is how smoothly and slowly we can get it to startup. I bought into the hype and $400 later I have 3 of these motors in a scale and comp crawlers. They perform as advertised - they are just as smooth and slow as my sensored HW and CC systems. So - what is the point of the sensor??
The sensor tells the esc exactly how fast the motor is turning, and gives feedback to get the motor started. It prevents cogging on start up, and provides a smoother throttle response, especially at very low motor shaft speeds.
@@scottyh72 Sure, that much I understand. But what I am asking is, if the unsensored motor is already smooth and slow at startup, what point is the added complication and cost of adding a sensor to that system? Perhaps I am being dense here...
@@DESOUSABthe unsensored motors are not this smooth, they in fact cogg unless you run a silent esc, and even they they do not have as good as control. If you have been running unsensored motors for a while then you probably don't even notice the cogging. Not until you ran a sensored version that is.
@@tomasher1911 All of my systems are sensored, except the Revolvers. I'm guessing gearing might be an important consideration - perhaps with taller gearing I would see more cogging in my unsensored outrunners.
It’s hilarious to me that people whine and bitch about EV’s not making noise as opposed to the rc people complaining that the motors make too much noise lmfao. I prefer the noise. The louder the better. An out runner is a great way to keep dogs away hahaha
I’m running a 2650 Black Jacket with Mamba X in my trx4. Inside it’s loud outside it’s not bad. And power to spare. I crawled it and did doughnuts and wheelies. Worth every penny and Tom’s customer service is great.
Outrunner have roughly four times the torque of other motors of the same size. Adding a sensor makes an outrunner that much better.
I had a very early sensored Revolver(on 4s)in my Trailfinder, it'd crawl extremely slow and still hit 20mph. I had to gear it way down an run it on 3s. Didn't want to break the rig.
That motor still runs extremely well and powerful. It's been in King Midas 6x6 for about 6-7 years now.
Sweet! That's a lot of power out of such a small outrunner...
Amazon has some $25 Flash Hobby airplane outrunners that actually work pretty well on a 10BL120 sensored ESC (no more noisy than that). They're rated at 3-4S but I've been running 2S and they work fine. I super glued the magnets to make sure they don't come loose. Only downside is the 5mm shaft. 1100KV with a 13-15mm pinion is pretty good. Their website has specs
That first launch up Climb Time was EPIC!!!! 🤣
My fusion se 1800kv came in yesterday and so did my DSM strap, thanks for the sticker Joe!! Fast fast shipping! Let me know when you get more hex tools on the site sir, please and thankyou!
Those Fusion motors are quietly the best thing in crawling. Powerful, smooth, SILENT and you can tune the FOC output. Only problem with them is length relative to similarly powered motors in some applications. I'd take these all day over my HH Revolvers if I am being honest.
just stuck an HH Revolver classic 1900 in mine, 10t pinon.. on 2s, and its good!
Wow tge power and the low speed control are amazing
Still new to crawling. Could you run this motor with a Hobbywing 1080?
That motors all that, that servo seems super tuff too. Awesome rig
It sure is
I don't have a 10th scale comp crawler but you might be talking me into one
What was the weight bias before and after the motor change ?
Brazin scale is releasing a carbon fiber chassis Friday and its a direct bolt on.
i came from the days of cr500s and open header drag racing lol gonna need to be louder than that to bother me
I noticed you had krawlers on other video, do you prefer Tusks over Krawlers?
Can’t wait for my trx4 shows up today thank you for all you do
I have the same setup and this is killer. The sensored outrunner is just unstoppable and absolutely no cogging
How would a Tekin RX4 sound compared to the Castle? Would it still be loud?
My HK hobbies 35k+ got here today whooo soon as my jst adapter comes in I'm gonna shove it on 3s and see what it's got I dont know what I'm gonna put it in yet tho lol
4s baby!! I never had a lot of cogging from Crawlmaster v2, does the jump for sensored outrunner add noticeable modulation capability?
Ps that transition out of nasty is a good test line!
This motor will work with any brushless esc. For some reason guys have a hard on only using castle when others have the exact same and sometimes more tuning permitters. These motors are great though
Who esle makes sensored escs?
You could do i direct comp with the Furitek Lizard 10 esc,how does it stock up against Micro X2? 👌😄
Not sensored
Ok so just how weather proof are those outrunners ??
They are actually water proof u just have to oil them and dry them just make sure u run in clean water and waterproof your other electronics.
I do wish castle would do something about that sound. They are late to the silent party.
What happened to the Punks3D Stagedive? Do you still have it?
How is it compared to a fusion, looking for something different for my lcg build
well its lighter....
Sounds like an old, rusty, never washed, (ford, dodge, or chevy) truck that's been muddin', not washed truck that's heading to town for a trip with the family!🤪😁
Great video, always look forward to them. Good info
Sweet freestyle tricks 😂
Have you tried the silent assassin esc yet?
The micro x2 is so much quiter than the older escs
It sure is.
@@ExocagedRC I love it with the revolvers now
For anyone who thinks the noise won't bother you, and before you go drop hundreds of dollars on these motors and esc's, consider those you crawl with and your neighbours. I have 3 of these outrunner motors, and I can only use them under special circumstances due to the noise. It is NOT something that everyone (or even most people...) will be OK with. Now it is possible that my setup (I have a snubnose revolver on a CC Mamba X and two 540 revolvers on CC SW4's) is louder than most, or that my settings contribute to the noise - but neither system is relaxing to run. My wife says they sounds like amplified dental drills...
It's not so much the motor. The esc's pwm frequency is too low. That's the whine you hear. To get rid of it, you must run a faster processor in the esc. Then write new code for that processor. None of my DIY brushless systems make any noise. But are 32 bit esc's that I can adjust the pwm.
For me i find the Castle whining a bit annoying, i guess in person might not be too bad at all. Great run man 👍
Oh it's worse
What is the benefit of having a sensored out runner?
Low speed control
You want to try the nasty backwards. That sounds dirty
LoL it all gets dirty around here! 😂
I'm super confused. Part of the reason to use an outrunner motor for crawling is how smoothly and slowly we can get it to startup. I bought into the hype and $400 later I have 3 of these motors in a scale and comp crawlers. They perform as advertised - they are just as smooth and slow as my sensored HW and CC systems. So - what is the point of the sensor??
The sensor tells the esc exactly how fast the motor is turning, and gives feedback to get the motor started. It prevents cogging on start up, and provides a smoother throttle response, especially at very low motor shaft speeds.
@@scottyh72 Sure, that much I understand. But what I am asking is, if the unsensored motor is already smooth and slow at startup, what point is the added complication and cost of adding a sensor to that system? Perhaps I am being dense here...
@@DESOUSABthe unsensored motors are not this smooth, they in fact cogg unless you run a silent esc, and even they they do not have as good as control. If you have been running unsensored motors for a while then you probably don't even notice the cogging. Not until you ran a sensored version that is.
@@tomasher1911 All of my systems are sensored, except the Revolvers. I'm guessing gearing might be an important consideration - perhaps with taller gearing I would see more cogging in my unsensored outrunners.
@@DESOUSAB Yes gearing is definitely a factor.
Rekn them there rear shocks are still out up a top say bout a holes worth🤤
👍😁
What servo are u running in this
Reefs 1100 smart servo
@@ExocagedRC thank you
It’s hilarious to me that people whine and bitch about EV’s not making noise as opposed to the rc people complaining that the motors make too much noise lmfao. I prefer the noise. The louder the better. An out runner is a great way to keep dogs away hahaha
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Not big on 4s? Raminator runs on what???? Hahahah jk love your channel
It kind of looked like it was “whinding up” then releasing