Corey Pack I don't even think he's her kid in that film. Since they have different eyes and she is only as old as Xavier. In this show, she was nearly 300 years old by that time.
And that's why my boy Nightcrawler is the better man. He doesn't resent those who hate or treat him wrongly nor does he make excuses. While Mystique on the other hand does all of the above and tries to use that to justify her immoral ways along wit the abandonment towards her (only) son
I also think she's saying it in a confrontational way of trying to distance herself from him, but deep down, she did want him, she did want a normal life, only him being a mutant revealed her and stopped that from happening.
@@MrOrcshaman She regrets it and saved his life later in the episode. In the end it was too painful for her to admit that there were other options, when she thought she had no other choise.
I mean this is what I don't like about this ridiculous Disney comic retcon. Mystique is cruel but Xmen does not sugar coat that this happens in real life. Some people probably watched this and related to Kurt like yeah my parents and I don't get along. The retcon erased that and made Mystique have her memory wiped so "forgot" she loved him. 🙄 Such a cheap shot and removing the realism.
@@kisaragistation5220 It's also a prime example of Nightcrawler showing God's love as well. God sees the good, the bad and the ugly in each and every one of us, and has even seen us at our absolute worst and He still loves us.
"I will ask god to bestow his grace upon me so that I meay learn to forgive you, then I will ask god to bestow his grace on you so that you may learn to forgive yourself" Wow..... that hit right in the feels Even though Mystique was a total bitch to her son and abandoned him and she felt like an outcast by humans and mutants... deep down inside she was a torn person who had no home or place of her own.
"I am a shape shifter. An outcast even among mutants. Trusted by no one. I don't have a life of my own. I just steal little bits from other people's lives" This cartoon had some of the most epic almost Shakespearean lines and dialogue
onyx081 no kidding XD “I am the rocks on the eternal shores, crash against me and be broken!” Was one of the coolest threats I’ve ever heard and that’s just the tip of the iceberg for the original xmen cartoon
Man is so empathetic to recognize his mother's rejection is a rejection of herself and immediately began the inward journey to healing himself from the wound in hopes of one day helping her on her own journey of recovery. The emotional intelligence and maturity is iconic.
"I will beg God to bestow his grace on me, so that I may learn to forgive you. And I will beg god to bestow his grace on you, so that you may learn to forgive yourself." Fucking beautiful, man. Grade A writing.
Great writing indeed. However, sadly, it is unlikely we shall get great writing or religious writing like this again due today's politically correct atmosphere. 😔
@jakebate1533 well well don't count your chickens before they hatch. The new x men cartoon 97 keeps Nightcrawler to his religious roots, without it being overt. Canon Jesus is cool but fanon Jesus is not. And too often religious groups forget the biggest thing he preached and ASKED is to follow: love thy neighbor. Heck do unto others as you would have done unto yourself is in the Bible.
If I have 1 complaint about this show, it's that Nightcrawler never joined the team and was only in a couple of episodes. I really like his character design, powers, and backstory. He's actually one of my favorite X-Men characters. I'm glad he was a series regular in X-Men Evolution.
Oh my gowd that is so profound I was thinking something along the lines of that but you definitely Articulated it way better than I ever could your honestly Really wise
Fun fact: Dr. Strange started a School of his own for the Magically Gifted, and they do get some actual Demons, but oddly enough they want to be good. Like Dezzy and Doyle Dormammu.
Yep, this one was the one person who loved Mystic despite everything she did to him and said to him. You could tell his words got to her. "I will beg God to bestow his grace on me so that I may forgive you and then I will ask that he will bestow his grace on you so that you might forgive yourself.
Nightcrawler had plenty of ammunition to fire back on Mystique, but chose to find away to forgive. I miss that in story telling. These days it's about killing your oppressor hardly ever about forgiving them.
Because time and time has proven, that "oppressors" find forgiveness and mercy as weaknesses to exploit. And never give one to their enemies. So many problems for Gotham would be solved if Batman just ripped Joker's head off.
@@casusbelli9225 hey that's Gotham's fault for not dealing with it's future headaches. Bruce often delivers the joker to them they chose to not sentence him to death.
@@skull2470 Agreed. I get Batman rarely kills in storylines due to thinking he wouldn't stop, but there's only so much shit Joker should get away before someone in the government decides, "screw it, kill the clown."
@@casusbelli9225 yeah and let me tell you there were a series where there is a forgivness for a villains, but unfortunatelly those stories effectively made a bad example of villains reemption by giving it in a silver plate, in spite the fact that plot wise and deeds wise they didn't earned and worse of all it appears to be look good in series, which already is a bad lesson for viewers (mostly children)
Mystique in many ways is a dark mirror of Nightcrawler: both are blue-skinned people who are considered freaks by society, but where Mystique is ashamed of her natural aspect, Nightcrawler takes pride on it. Mystique is what Nightcrawler could have been if he didn't have a moral compass, but also let his insecurities and self loathing consume him.
She is not ashamed of it. She does not want the cure and she fights with Rogue for wanting the cure saying she should take pride in her powers. I think Mystique just loathes that others never accepted her or treated her well in her natural form. She still has a superiority complex and is a narcissist.
I say they mirror each other lives as in mystique can always look like she's normal but wishing she didn't have to hide her true self where Kurt originally hide himself wanting to walk out normal
I love how Nightcrawler's character and backstory subverts so many tropes - A story that deals with religion and a German-accented demon who just wants to fit in and be a good person.
I'm kind of torn. I love the early runs of Nightcrawler when he's super religous and tragic, but swashbuckling charming Errol Flynn inspired Nightcrawler is awesome too.
I was raised in the newer generation of Marvel media (born in 2000) and Nightcrawler is one of the most unique superheroes I've seen in anything with the label. He doesn't have the conventional tragic backstory of dead parents that were great or abusers to run away from. He was born an outcast but turned to religion to ease the loneliness before finding out his own mother wanted nothing to do with him. Instead of brood or sulk his first instinct is to hope he can forgive her and that she can forgive herself. Dude has the worst of luck but is just too dang pure! I vaguely recall him from the movies but this version made an impression on me and I'm a freaking atheist!
@@charmedcaster15 It's not the best part. God doesn't exist. Jesus doesn't exist. And that's a good thing, because if they existed, it's even worse. What was god's plan on 8 year old that got killed by drunk bastard speeding his car near my home a week ago? What are his plans on pedos that are still large? If I was God, I'd sterilize the Earth, and even if it would leave 10 THOUSANDS people alive, they'd would be the most honorable, good and fucking pious people in the world. God doesn't do that shit, therefore, even if he exists, he is as evil as Satan, if not worse.
@@casusbelli9225 wicked people will get their reckoning on judgment day. people have free will and with every action there is a consequence . GOD gave us free will if HE interveens in every bad decision we make we wouldn't have free will.JESUS died on the cross for our sins so we wouldn't be punished on judgment day and that we would accept HIM so HE could spiritually change us in order to become more honoroble and peacful than we are
1:47 " I didn't want you." any child who loved his or her mother will be devastated, this family reunion between mother and son is heartbreaking. guess goes to show that nightcrawler and mystique's relationship showcases that not all mothers and sons get the same treatment.
@@machohypeman It is, and bad people use it to meet their own ends. Only humans deserve forgiveness and human rights. A petty thief deserves forgiveness. A serial murderer and terrorist can ask forgiveness from God directly - we should only help then get there sooner.
"I am a shape shifter! An outcast! Even among mutants, trusted by no one! I don't have a life of my own. I just steal little bits from other people's lives! But that's how I survive! So there's your truth, son. I didn't want you! Still sad for me?"
It wasn't added onto this clip but she took a bullet for him just 10 to 20 seconds more into the episode. She really was touched with what he said and she felt something towards him just then.
I can agree with a lot of people that in some ways, they'd rather kill someone like Mystique rather than forgive them, but in my opinion, Mystique is dead already, so it's not worth the effort. Maybe she can be forgiven, but killing her would only prove that there's something to hate, when all I see is a sad shell of woman. Kurt and the others can do what they can, but in the end, only she can choose to be this way.
Prior to 2000, kids cartoons were allowed to be very dark, and have somewhat mature storylines. Children back then could grasp and process these concepts. Then Nickelodeon and Cartoon network became more influential and dumbed down children's cartoons to the degree we see today. Even the character models have been dumbed down.
The irony is not lost on anyone that Mystique whines and howls about being an outcast to Nightcrawler. Nightcrawler can't hide his face like his mother, but he's accepted because of his good heart. Mystique can change everything on the outside, but who she is on the inside will always be what keeps her an outcast even among mutants.
Facts. And to be honest Kurt has every reason to hate the world. He was thrown into a waterfall by his own mother and could have died, chased by bigots out of his own town (attempted but failed), and almost killed by one of his brothers in Christ. What excuse does Mystique have? Almost all the excuses she brought up sound self inflicted. Although being an outcast by humans is something she can't control, she always had the open invitation of friendship from Xavier and the institute. But instead wanted to go it alone and allow her pain and demons to turn her into the same people who hurt her. So glad Kurt turned out better than her. He lives with hope and happiness while she lives in misery. (Sorry of going on a whole tangent on mystique Lol)
What this clip doesn't show you is that as Mystique is about to tell him she doesn't deserve his prayers, she's shot in the arm, and it flashes back to when she's holding him above the waterfall. As she holds him, she is weeping. When Mystique falls off the bridge, Nightcrawler cries out "MOTHER!"
Mystique really thinks acting like she's disconnected from everything that exists will shelter her from a broken heart. That's why Nightcrawler feels sorry for her, he knows she wants a connection.
Yeah Rogue doesn't ask many questions. I think she doesn't even wanna know. But when Mystique and all her kids are in one room together, Rogue does tell her she's pretty shocked at how she handed over her first born to mutant haters. Then Mystique is just like well you're my favorite so 🤷♀️😅
Thats the worse punishment for someone like mystique in a life of taking and griefting she finds that her biggest shame the son that she left to the wolves instead of giving her hate to justify herself , gives her forgiveness and still she might never forgive herself because she can't conceive that kind of compassion and love
I actually liked the X-men movies because it was different but I do I just think That Jennifer Hqd More of a chance to get a moment like this but she was lazy as Fuck and destroyed the Character and the O.G Mystique Was actually going to have a Flashback where she's caressing Him on her shoulder but the Fucking Studio Scrapped it
That's why Nightcrawler is the best character in X-Men bar none. He had the appearance of a demon but he was Far More Human than anybody in the X-Men universe.
When your child is a better parent to you than you are. Sheesh. As the saying goes "every child deserves a parent, but not every parent deserves a child."
I tell you what Nightcrawler said in the end should be told to all "deadbeat parents" that abandoned their children because of the "hardship" that it caused. OAN, Mystique is pretty attractive, the way she is. It's a shame she feels the need to shape-shift just because she feels alienated from the world.
I wish they talked about Azazel he was pivotal to Nightcrawlers history in fact he saved him from falling into the river and is also the reason he looks the way he does
She straight up tried to kill he child by throwing him off the cliff into the waterfall.. and then you have Polaris faking her kidnapping to avoid having to break up with ice man.. damn the series from 30 years ago is dark.. it hasn’t aged poorly
Poor nightcrawler that's an awful way for babies to start out life nobody should abandon babies. They need lots of love and care so they can grow big and strong.
Dont know why people hated how kurt looks even its not that ugly. How dare they Plus he is just a kind person who is being helpful and a philosopher and Catholic
By the grace of God! This is the real X-Men and this is the best portrayal of them. This show features the most accurate portrayals of the characters and is loaded with some of the best writing you'll ever witness. Nightcrawler is awaited in Heaven by the Father and the Son and a host of Angels.
I tell you what, Mystique really is the center spoke of the X-Men conspiracy chart. Either that or she has the level of drama often associated with a Days of our Lives character
I've never knew anything about Night Crawler or Kurt Wagner until now,the ever first thing I saw night crawler was in either X-MEN UNITED or X-MEN EVOLUTION I've never saw him in this series atall when I was little.😔
I’ve never seen this version of Juggernaut when I was little, I saw this version of Nightcrawler as a kid and thought that even in this he’s very sweet
I've always wondered what mystique is wearing around her waist. A belt made up of shrunken heads, or a sash made out of baby vampire skulls. Or something edgy she found at a market stall?
Yikes! At least in X-Men: Evolution, Mystique really did love her son and tried to find him before he found a real family that kept him safe. This Mystique makes me want to slap her!
That’s a nice story you got there, X Men. It would be a shame if a comic book writer decades later came and ruined it for the sake of modern audiences.
Wait, you mean Azazel the demon being Nightcrawler's father instead of some guy? no, that's not what you meant. Oh dear...... I see it now. Incredibly stupid change. It makes the Azazel retcon look fantastic by comparison.
No Marvel's technical version of the Devil is Mephisto or Marduk (Hellstrom's father) Azazel is a mutant who has suffered so much discrimination for his appearance that he basically did decide to become a Hell lord
This is why I hate the live action versions of Nightcrawler. Not only were the "angelic scarrings" horrible as no person of faith would cut themselves like that, especially Nightcrawler. But they can never show how much he cares for his friends and is just a giant, kind, goofball.
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pisses me off that this part of Nightcrawler and Mystiques history never made it into the live action movies.
Me too
+Brittany Paulhus They had his father in the X-Men: First Class movie. That's all though, lol.
Corey Pack I don't even think he's her kid in that film. Since they have different eyes and she is only as old as Xavier. In this show, she was nearly 300 years old by that time.
Not even in Apocalypse movie. :(
yassss me too :(
THESE are the type of religious characters we need. Nightcrawler is devout, but he also lives up to his moral code and is genuinely kind.
He is an honest man.
One of my favorite X-men characters
Same with daredevil if you ever want to see a religious character
You need to read the new House of X.
I also love how he's a badass swashbuckler who wants to be a pirate. That and sometimes pulls pulls pranks on his friends.
And that's why my boy Nightcrawler is the better man. He doesn't resent those who hate or treat him wrongly nor does he make excuses. While Mystique on the other hand does all of the above and tries to use that to justify her immoral ways along wit the abandonment towards her (only) son
mystique is just like the majority of our country then horrible
Mystique & Sabertooth had a son together......he didn't have the mutant gene,. He became a senator.
His brother is graydon creed
And didn’t Mystique have sons with Wolverine and Xavier?
NightCrawler vs Apocalypse hmmm who would win ? And Why ? Now that would be an interesting battle
"I didn't want you!"
You can tell those words really hurt Nightcrawler, but even in his pain, it goes against his nature to hate.
I also think she's saying it in a confrontational way of trying to distance herself from him, but deep down, she did want him, she did want a normal life, only him being a mutant revealed her and stopped that from happening.
@@MrOrcshaman She regrets it and saved his life later in the episode. In the end it was too painful for her to admit that there were other options, when she thought she had no other choise.
For some of us, it's hardest to forgive yourself. Even when you really want to.
I mean this is what I don't like about this ridiculous Disney comic retcon. Mystique is cruel but Xmen does not sugar coat that this happens in real life. Some people probably watched this and related to Kurt like yeah my parents and I don't get along. The retcon erased that and made Mystique have her memory wiped so "forgot" she loved him. 🙄 Such a cheap shot and removing the realism.
@@kisaragistation5220 It's also a prime example of Nightcrawler showing God's love as well. God sees the good, the bad and the ugly in each and every one of us, and has even seen us at our absolute worst and He still loves us.
"I will ask god to bestow his grace upon me so that I meay learn to forgive you, then I will ask god to bestow his grace on you so that you may learn to forgive yourself"
Wow..... that hit right in the feels
Even though Mystique was a total bitch to her son and abandoned him and she felt like an outcast by humans and mutants... deep down inside she was a torn person who had no home or place of her own.
Not to mention as her flashback of her last time with infant Nightcravler shined again we saw her crying due to such a terrible decision.
Makes it easier to find shelter with magneto, tell a hurt person what they want to hear and they'll become loyal to you
And she still loved him. Went out of her way to protect her child at the end of this episode.
Nightcrawlers Origin story is deep as he ask God to heal Mystique
I legit cried at that part when I first watched it.
That is the true forgiveness GOD TALKS ABOUT
Thats a better understanding of christ than many if us have
@@daanvos194 a toxic message
@@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 how come?
"I am a shape shifter. An outcast even among mutants. Trusted by no one. I don't have a life of my own. I just steal little bits from other people's lives"
This cartoon had some of the most epic almost Shakespearean lines and dialogue
onyx081 no kidding XD
“I am the rocks on the eternal shores, crash against me and be broken!” Was one of the coolest threats I’ve ever heard and that’s just the tip of the iceberg for the original xmen cartoon
The best that the 90s had to offer.
Not enough Doths and Thous to be Shakespearean but I do agree it had quality writing.
Psh it’s mystique’s fault the way her life turned out
@@garciagloganfrank18 I agree, 100%
Kurt is an overgrown cinnamon roll with blue fur like... Too precious.
He's too pure for this world
Man is so empathetic to recognize his mother's rejection is a rejection of herself and immediately began the inward journey to healing himself from the wound in hopes of one day helping her on her own journey of recovery. The emotional intelligence and maturity is iconic.
Producers: "We need a good moral for kids, but we can't make it sound preachy."
Jack Kirby and Stan Lee: "Summon Nightcrawler."
I know this comment is 2 years old but I find this funny because Nightcrawler is literally a preacher lol
Technically, Len Wein and Dave Cockrum were the ones who created Nightcrawler, but I understand your sentiment.
"I will beg God to bestow his grace on me, so that I may learn to forgive you. And I will beg god to bestow his grace on you, so that you may learn to forgive yourself."
Fucking beautiful, man. Grade A writing.
Great writing indeed. However, sadly, it is unlikely we shall get great writing or religious writing like this again due today's politically correct atmosphere. 😔
I'm not even religious but I completely agree with you. That was top notch.
@jakebate1533 well well don't count your chickens before they hatch. The new x men cartoon 97 keeps Nightcrawler to his religious roots, without it being overt. Canon Jesus is cool but fanon Jesus is not. And too often religious groups forget the biggest thing he preached and ASKED is to follow: love thy neighbor. Heck do unto others as you would have done unto yourself is in the Bible.
Mystique said that she didn't want him but yet he still prays for her.
Such a deep storyline, where was this in the movies?
Cuz it doesn't make money for the hollywood douchebags
Hollywood cares about money
They don’t want the Gospel
@@marvelfanatic9535 it's said that they don't want the gospel
@@charmedcaster15 yes it is, hon. Anyway, I recommend The Chosen!
This is deep for a children's cartoon. The story is better than a lot of movies. 😭
Agreed. While I am not saying all of them are like this, character depth matters.
Better than all the movies. Except maybe the first 2 minutes of X-2.
I’m currently almost done with watching the series and I couldn’t agree more
True. And they write a narcissist well. Mystique has all the red flags
Well, this is X-Men
If I have 1 complaint about this show, it's that Nightcrawler never joined the team and was only in a couple of episodes. I really like his character design, powers, and backstory. He's actually one of my favorite X-Men characters. I'm glad he was a series regular in X-Men Evolution.
Mrgokujr2012 Same with Colossus, all though he wasn't a series regular in Evolution either.
Jibbotson he would of been if they series continued. In the last episode he joined the xmen in xmen evolution
hated that version of the character honestly this version was way better
@@shockhouser3171 this series honestly nailed every single character
He's coming back in 97.
The cruelest irony of Mystique's power is that it allows her to be anyone except herself.
Oh my gowd that is so profound I was thinking something along the lines of that but you definitely Articulated it way better than I ever could your honestly Really wise
Rogue's is similar.
Kurt is an angel.
Agreed
In recent comics he have his own soul to help others,now when he dies he can't go to Heaven
Very ironic considering his father is a demon
Fun fact: Dr. Strange started a School of his own for the Magically Gifted, and they do get some actual Demons, but oddly enough they want to be good. Like Dezzy and Doyle Dormammu.
@@HouseOfWandain this universe. His father is a racist. In some universe yes he is a demon
Yep, this one was the one person who loved Mystic despite everything she did to him and said to him. You could tell his words got to her. "I will beg God to bestow his grace on me so that I may forgive you and then I will ask that he will bestow his grace on you so that you might forgive yourself.
Well regardless she is his mother nothing can change that just shows he doesn’t give up on her
Nightcrawler had plenty of ammunition to fire back on Mystique, but chose to find away to forgive. I miss that in story telling. These days it's about killing your oppressor hardly ever about forgiving them.
That and honestly, what would killing her do? Nothing. It would just add to the sadness and fix nothing. Letting go really is better most of the time.
Because time and time has proven, that "oppressors" find forgiveness and mercy as weaknesses to exploit. And never give one to their enemies.
So many problems for Gotham would be solved if Batman just ripped Joker's head off.
@@casusbelli9225 hey that's Gotham's fault for not dealing with it's future headaches. Bruce often delivers the joker to them they chose to not sentence him to death.
@@skull2470
Agreed. I get Batman rarely kills in storylines due to thinking he wouldn't stop, but there's only so much shit Joker should get away before someone in the government decides, "screw it, kill the clown."
@@casusbelli9225 yeah and let me tell you there were a series where there is a forgivness for a villains, but unfortunatelly those stories effectively made a bad example of villains reemption by giving it in a silver plate, in spite the fact that plot wise and deeds wise they didn't earned and worse of all it appears to be look good in series, which already is a bad lesson for viewers (mostly children)
Mystique in many ways is a dark mirror of Nightcrawler: both are blue-skinned people who are considered freaks by society, but where Mystique is ashamed of her natural aspect, Nightcrawler takes pride on it.
Mystique is what Nightcrawler could have been if he didn't have a moral compass, but also let his insecurities and self loathing consume him.
She is not ashamed of it. She does not want the cure and she fights with Rogue for wanting the cure saying she should take pride in her powers. I think Mystique just loathes that others never accepted her or treated her well in her natural form. She still has a superiority complex and is a narcissist.
I say they mirror each other lives as in mystique can always look like she's normal but wishing she didn't have to hide her true self where Kurt originally hide himself wanting to walk out normal
I love how Nightcrawler's character and backstory subverts so many tropes - A story that deals with religion and a German-accented demon who just wants to fit in and be a good person.
I'm kind of torn. I love the early runs of Nightcrawler when he's super religous and tragic, but swashbuckling charming Errol Flynn inspired Nightcrawler is awesome too.
I was raised in the newer generation of Marvel media (born in 2000) and Nightcrawler is one of the most unique superheroes I've seen in anything with the label. He doesn't have the conventional tragic backstory of dead parents that were great or abusers to run away from. He was born an outcast but turned to religion to ease the loneliness before finding out his own mother wanted nothing to do with him. Instead of brood or sulk his first instinct is to hope he can forgive her and that she can forgive herself. Dude has the worst of luck but is just too dang pure! I vaguely recall him from the movies but this version made an impression on me and I'm a freaking atheist!
Nightcrawler’s such an underrated character in the movies. So morally just.
That's because the movie version is not like the comic book character.
"I DIDN'T WANT YOU! Still sad for me?"
Jesus this show is heavy.
yes and the best part is when he told her he will pray to JESUS to bestow his grace on her
@@charmedcaster15 It's not the best part.
God doesn't exist. Jesus doesn't exist.
And that's a good thing, because if they existed, it's even worse.
What was god's plan on 8 year old that got killed by drunk bastard speeding his car near my home a week ago?
What are his plans on pedos that are still large?
If I was God, I'd sterilize the Earth, and even if it would leave 10 THOUSANDS people alive, they'd would be the most honorable, good and fucking pious people in the world.
God doesn't do that shit, therefore, even if he exists, he is as evil as Satan, if not worse.
@@casusbelli9225 wicked people will get their reckoning on judgment day. people have free will and with every action there is a consequence . GOD gave us free will if HE interveens in every bad decision we make we wouldn't have free will.JESUS died on the cross for our sins so we wouldn't be punished on judgment day and that we would accept HIM so HE could spiritually change us in order to become more honoroble and peacful than we are
@@casusbelli9225 dude get a life
@@charmedcaster15 amen 🙏 😔.
Nightcrawler is so kind.. 💓 😭
CatMom Jihyun Kim yes he is
So am I.
Nightcrawler's words are so strong that he will turn a full blown Atheist to a Christian
jeeze this was a cartoon? lol thats pretty friggin dark
Gary Cannon Remember, back in the 90's. People thought this was a show for kids.
Neo-Xgray87 There many dark kods shows and movies. Watch legend of korra that is a dark tv show on nick.
Cartoon =/= for kids all of the time. Look at shows on Adult Swim.
Gary Cannon Kirt’s response is heart touching
Gary Cannon mean while, over in Spider-Man TAS, he couldn’t punch any of his enemies and they couldn’t use the word sinister
1:47 " I didn't want you." any child who loved his or her mother will be devastated, this family reunion between mother and son is heartbreaking. guess goes to show that nightcrawler and mystique's relationship showcases that not all mothers and sons get the same treatment.
And it's annoying the comics changed that in the retcon. Some kids will never get a magic "my mom just lost her memory" plot
Daaaaaaaang, Nightcrawler has a strong power to forgive.
Forgiveness isn't weakness
@@machohypeman Unfortunatly, so many forget this. Forgiveness can be so powerful, just look at the ending of Spiderman 3.
@@machohypeman It is, and bad people use it to meet their own ends.
Only humans deserve forgiveness and human rights.
A petty thief deserves forgiveness. A serial murderer and terrorist can ask forgiveness from God directly - we should only help then get there sooner.
@@casusbelli9225this I agree with
The power of God compelled Kurt to forgive.
Oh Nightcrawler, that was deep! He's always been one of my favorite X-Men :)
Yeah, THIS is Mystique. Who the heck was Jennifer Lawrence portraying?
A cosplay of Mystique.
@@PLUX4 that was a cosplay of Taylor Swift
Couldnt have said it better mate
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herself but blue
"So that you may forgive yourself."Night Crawler puts Mystique to shame. He was such an adorable infant.
1:35 ''That's right,she does not have a life of her own, just steals bits from other people's lives''She got that right...
"I am a shape shifter! An outcast! Even among mutants, trusted by no one! I don't have a life of my own. I just steal little bits from other people's lives! But that's how I survive! So there's your truth, son. I didn't want you! Still sad for me?"
It wasn't added onto this clip but she took a bullet for him just 10 to 20 seconds more into the episode. She really was touched with what he said and she felt something towards him just then.
I can agree with a lot of people that in some ways, they'd rather kill someone like Mystique rather than forgive them, but in my opinion, Mystique is dead already, so it's not worth the effort. Maybe she can be forgiven, but killing her would only prove that there's something to hate, when all I see is a sad shell of woman. Kurt and the others can do what they can, but in the end, only she can choose to be this way.
Prior to 2000, kids cartoons were allowed to be very dark, and have somewhat mature storylines. Children back then could grasp and process these concepts. Then Nickelodeon and Cartoon network became more influential and dumbed down children's cartoons to the degree we see today. Even the character models have been dumbed down.
There were some solid kids cartoons that could appeal to adults in the early 2000s. Justice League Unlimited, Ninja Turtles 2003
@@kingstarscream320 even X Men: Evolution
@Castor Tarantino about what?
Eeeeh Spider-Man was already heavily censored for example.
@@casusbelli9225 Only in violence. The topics & themes were not.
The irony is not lost on anyone that Mystique whines and howls about being an outcast to Nightcrawler. Nightcrawler can't hide his face like his mother, but he's accepted because of his good heart. Mystique can change everything on the outside, but who she is on the inside will always be what keeps her an outcast even among mutants.
Thank you, Kurt. Words to live by. Don't hate ever even if you have a good reason to. It only hurts you.
Facts. And to be honest Kurt has every reason to hate the world. He was thrown into a waterfall by his own mother and could have died, chased by bigots out of his own town (attempted but failed), and almost killed by one of his brothers in Christ. What excuse does Mystique have? Almost all the excuses she brought up sound self inflicted. Although being an outcast by humans is something she can't control, she always had the open invitation of friendship from Xavier and the institute. But instead wanted to go it alone and allow her pain and demons to turn her into the same people who hurt her. So glad Kurt turned out better than her. He lives with hope and happiness while she lives in misery. (Sorry of going on a whole tangent on mystique Lol)
@silentfangirls2954 what about Sinister? He's hatable.
As much as Night Crawler didnt appear much in the series when ever he appeared his kind heart always touched me
What this clip doesn't show you is that as Mystique is about to tell him she doesn't deserve his prayers, she's shot in the arm, and it flashes back to when she's holding him above the waterfall. As she holds him, she is weeping. When Mystique falls off the bridge, Nightcrawler cries out "MOTHER!"
2 minutes better than Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix
God bless Nightcrawler he has a heart of gold.
Kurt is so calm and wise. That's so like me: calm and Noble.
I hope Nightcrawler and Mystique’s relationship becomes a thing in the MCU
Don't count on it
@@Gundam4 Anything would be better than the non-existent crap they pulled in FOX-Men
@@Gundam4 I abandoned the films long ago.
Mystique really thinks acting like she's disconnected from everything that exists will shelter her from a broken heart. That's why Nightcrawler feels sorry for her, he knows she wants a connection.
Rogue is like "I have a brother now, Cool."
Yeah Rogue doesn't ask many questions. I think she doesn't even wanna know. But when Mystique and all her kids are in one room together, Rogue does tell her she's pretty shocked at how she handed over her first born to mutant haters. Then Mystique is just like well you're my favorite so 🤷♀️😅
Nightcrawler is too pure for this world.
Nightcrawler's reply left me gaping. What a soul! And Mystique is mean! Can't believe how they're so different....
Thats the worse punishment for someone like mystique in a life of taking and griefting she finds that her biggest shame the son that she left to the wolves instead of giving her hate to justify herself , gives her forgiveness and still she might never forgive herself because she can't conceive that kind of compassion and love
It just simply amazes me that None of the X-Men movies could stand up to a 90s Cartoon.
Sad but true.
Right?
Nah Wrong
I actually liked the X-men movies because it was different but I do I just think That Jennifer Hqd More of a chance to get a moment like this but she was lazy as Fuck and destroyed the Character and the O.G Mystique Was actually going to have a Flashback where she's caressing Him on her shoulder but the Fucking Studio Scrapped it
That's why Nightcrawler is the best character in X-Men bar none. He had the appearance of a demon but he was Far More Human than anybody in the X-Men universe.
Agreed!
This kind of brought tears to my eyes, cause goddamn, he is such a fucking saint. That’s why I like Nightcrawler.
Man this scene was so deep cudos to the producers and the writers of this show #LongLive90sCartoons
This would’ve been an amazing scene in a live action movie
Mystique is probably one of the most complicated characters in the X-men catalog.
Nightcrawler may not have been on the team during the series, but he’s always been the heart and soul of the X-men. Hopefully we will see him in ‘97!!
When your child is a better parent to you than you are. Sheesh. As the saying goes "every child deserves a parent, but not every parent deserves a child."
Nightcrawler just pulled the Jesus card on her.
I tell you what Nightcrawler said in the end should be told to all "deadbeat parents" that abandoned their children because of the "hardship" that it caused.
OAN, Mystique is pretty attractive, the way she is. It's a shame she feels the need to shape-shift just because she feels alienated from the world.
its the great thing about xmen,, they use anaology of real life, she feels judged by her skin color....make sense?
GOT DANG IT XMEN you know how to tug the Heartstrings😢😢😢
Proof that Night Crawler is hands down a true man! XD
We need this Nightcrawler back in the modern cartoons
As long as he fights like a badass gentleman, I'm happy. 'Cause this cartoon made me fall in love with Kurt and read his comics.
Oh man this was so deep. 😢😢
You see in Mystique's eyes it killed her to lie to Kurt like that especially when Kurt constantly forgave her.
This show, omg such powerful drama and action
I wish they talked about Azazel he was pivotal to Nightcrawlers history in fact he saved him from falling into the river and is also the reason he looks the way he does
Poor Nightcrawler. Betrayed by his own mother. That's why they don't fight each other often.
Seriously man, we need this cartoon to get re-aired
All the episodes are on Disney+
Wish granted
@@Puggalugfuck Disney
Wish granted my friend, the sequel is utterly marvelous
these superhero shows were marketed as kids shows but we're so close to adult animation in terms of storylines
Night crawler is so noble
“You could have had a life with me mother”
May God give us Peace strength of his Holy Spirit!
He is so kind
hmmm no wonder she helped him in the apocalypse movie makes more sense now
1:32 the transform animation is so clean, love it❤
She straight up tried to kill he child by throwing him off the cliff into the waterfall.. and then you have Polaris faking her kidnapping to avoid having to break up with ice man.. damn the series from 30 years ago is dark.. it hasn’t aged poorly
Poor nightcrawler that's an awful way for babies to start out life nobody should abandon babies. They need lots of love and care so they can grow big and strong.
night crawler looks so cute as a baby.
Yeah well its fucking nightcrawler what did you expect
Dont know why people hated how kurt looks even its not that ugly. How dare they
Plus he is just a kind person who is being helpful and a philosopher and Catholic
I love nightcrawler, especially his Christianity!!!!!!
By the grace of God! This is the real X-Men and this is the best portrayal of them. This show features the most accurate portrayals of the characters and is loaded with some of the best writing you'll ever witness.
Nightcrawler is awaited in Heaven by the Father and the Son and a host of Angels.
Nightcrawler is so sweet
love nightcrawler the original xmen movies really did him justice
I tell you what, Mystique really is the center spoke of the X-Men conspiracy chart. Either that or she has the level of drama often associated with a Days of our Lives character
I've never knew anything about Night Crawler or Kurt Wagner until now,the ever first thing I saw night crawler was in either X-MEN UNITED or X-MEN EVOLUTION I've never saw him in this series atall when I was little.😔
I’ve never seen this version of Juggernaut when I was little, I saw this version of Nightcrawler as a kid and thought that even in this he’s very sweet
@@marvelfanatic9535 rw:you can say that again,most especially when Wolverine reads the Bible at a Church,thats a rare occasion.
@@jasontachin yes it was, I’m surprised they put that in a cartoon! I was also impacted when Rogue cried tears of joy when she saw Wolverine praying
@@marvelfanatic9535 rw:now theres something you dont see everyday.^_^
@@jasontachin well, as a kid; I always thought of Rogue as a strong Christian woman in the comics.
He gave her the ultimate come back lol
I've always wondered what mystique is wearing around her waist. A belt made up of shrunken heads, or a sash made out of baby vampire skulls. Or something edgy she found at a market stall?
Yikes! At least in X-Men: Evolution, Mystique really did love her son and tried to find him before he found a real family that kept him safe. This Mystique makes me want to slap her!
I love Night Crawler's back story.
i mean , if you think about it, without mystique , nightclawer will never exist.
he's after all, the son of mystique.
Nightcrawler a kind person that dose not use his region on anyone he use the wise words of forgiveness
Nightcrawler looks so cute as a baby.
Dame, NightCrawler is my freaking favorite Xman!
That’s a nice story you got there, X Men. It would be a shame if a comic book writer decades later came and ruined it for the sake of modern audiences.
Wait, you mean Azazel the demon being Nightcrawler's father instead of some guy? no, that's not what you meant.
Oh dear...... I see it now. Incredibly stupid change. It makes the Azazel retcon look fantastic by comparison.
@@Archedgar Yep, Marvel’s recent retcon of Nightcrawler’s parentage was repugnant and asinine.
@@KingNazaru Well said.
...holy crap. Nightcrawler is awesome. How did i not see this episode as a kid?
I remember watching this as a kid. Epic for a cartoon.
Mystique I know would never scream 'please don't hurt me' like a baby lol
/Mystique is a manipulator by nature, she had don't hurt me reaction for Kurt to feel sorry for her...
Actually his father was Azael, Marvel's version of the devil.
No Marvel's technical version of the Devil is Mephisto or Marduk (Hellstrom's father)
Azazel is a mutant who has suffered so much discrimination for his appearance that he basically did decide to become a Hell lord
In this universe. Azazel did not exist until 2001. Ultimate comic
His father. The rich Austrian man is a Racist
@@ninjasolarteam You mean the nearby superstitious villagers were racist.
I want to be like Nightcrawler. He has great character.
Again Night Crawler reminds me why he is one of my all time favorites.
This was Mystique, not the J-law bs from the movies. She was cutthroat to most people with the exception of Rogue
She was soft with Rogue but still messed her up and endangered her
Terrible parent
agreed. why would you have a kid and then just get rid of him. what if Kurt DROWNED?
That's an understatement..
mystique did it to protect night crawler
How?
Rayla Kame And too trusting as a parent
This is why I hate the live action versions of Nightcrawler. Not only were the "angelic scarrings" horrible as no person of faith would cut themselves like that, especially Nightcrawler. But they can never show how much he cares for his friends and is just a giant, kind, goofball.
Still better than the X-Men Evolution version.