Upgrading SSD in the Samsung Notebook 9 Pro - Part 2, Installation and Restoring Backup
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- Опубликовано: 17 сен 2024
- This is Part 2 covering my step by step procedure in upgrading the 256 GB SATA M.2 to Samsung 960 Pro 1TB NvME M.2 amzn.to/2eVsHji
Benchmark at the end.
Tools Used for Upgrade - Good to prepare
Backup Software: www.macrium.co...
External Hard Drive: amzn.to/2gUFVx6
USB Flash Drive: amzn.to/2eVfvuS
Grounding / Antistatic: amzn.to/2eWyLYR
My Screwdriver Tool: (no longer available with the Pentalobe)
Any Size 0 Screwdriver is fine: amzn.to/2wQZvQo
Spudger Tool: amzn.to/2h0z8i6 (You can use your fingernails)
Adapter to reuse your SSD: amzn.to/2wS2EiS
I got a Samsung Notebook 9 Pro (2018 edition) with a RX 540 2GB. Thanks to this tutorial, I was brave enough to change out the measly 256GB M.2 SATA6.0 drive that capped at 525MB/s R/W to a Samsung 970 EVO 2TB NVMe M.2 drive hitting 3500MB/s reads and 2500MB/s writes. I set aside about 25% capacity for Over Provisioning. I downloaded Samsung Magician and turned on Rapid Mode and now I'm getting 17000MB/s reads and 11000MB/s writes thanks to the 16GB 2400Mhz DDR4 RAM. If yall think I'm bsing, I have screen shots as proof. I used Crystal Diskmark x64 bit to test the speeds.
I have a 960 Evo and 970 Evo as well installed in two desktop PCs and the Rapid Mode is disabled for those two drivers. The Samsung Magician says that my drive doesnt support Rapid Mode. I only could use the Rapid Mode in Evo 8xx series. Did you face this as well?
Thanks, I was looking to get the 970 EVO. One question... how did you know it was compatible did you use any website or just this video?
@@techwick7969 I used this video as reference.
@@81lcf Sorry not rapid mode, I used a third party program called Primocache.
@@techwick7969 Just this video. I wont be able to confirm to you about the 970 because I wont use that model in my notebook . But since the 970 pro is newer than 970 evo I think It will likely compatible with the notebook .
Good video. You can do a live clone using Macrium Reflect now, and if you have an external enclosure, use your old drive as a backup or USB drive. Minitool also makes a free partitioning utility for resizing/changing partitions if you need. Not sure if you'll ever need this info, but just a heads up if you ever need to do this again.
I've worked in IT for a many number of years. That said, this isn't working for me no matter what.
So, the entire video works flawless for me along with the proper Resize of the partitions.... going from a 512gb B-Key M.2 sata ssd to a 1TB 970Pro M-Key m.2 ssd (and even tried with a 970 Evo Plus). The two 970 SSD's are brand new from Amazon just for this upgrade purpose.
When I pop in the NVMe into my Samsung laptop, the BIOS sees it perfectly fine. My next goal after that is to do a CLEAN install of Windows. I use the official Microsoft media creation tool to create a bootable media of Windows 10 installation. Upon using that, at the beginning of the installation wizard it does not recognize that the SSD is installed yet however bios sees it perfectly fine. Even if I initiate the command prompt within the installation wizard to use Diskpart, Diskpart does NOT see the SSD. But BIOS sees it fine. Furthermore, if I take out the SSD and attach it to an external enclosure, loading up my windows environment from another SSD will see that enclosure just fine and Diskpart can see that SSD that is within the enclosure. But if I take out that SSD from the enclosure and pop it back into the motherboard so that I can do a clean install, though the BIOS can see the SSD it is the Windows installation wizard that cannot see it nor can Diskpart that is launched from within the insulation wizard is able to see that ssd. Truly an anomaly.
This has now happened on multiple ssds that I have tried to accomplish this project with.
Whether I try doing a clone or whether I try doing a CLEAN install, I can't get it to be recognize. Tinkering with the BIOS settings no matter which way yields the same result. Even using an M-KEY m.2 ssd external enclosure to do various different types of cloning and/or reformatting....all yields the same result.
I'm able to see the 970's (both the Pro and the Evo Plus) through Diskpart within my Windows environment. I am able to see the BIOS interpret that either 970 is in fact installed. But after that, neither a Macrium restore using the Rescue thumb drive nor using a fresh Windows Installation bootable media stick can see either of these two drives in existence.
I need MAD help!! 😉😭
Amazing video thanks for the upload. Can't believe you opened it up with just your fingers!
Thanks Mike. I followed your video and was able to upgrade to a 2TB NVMe! Thanks!!
Thank you, Mike! I just got used 2018 samsung notebook 9. I will try to upgrade with the exact storage.Too bad I cannot easily, if any at all, upgrade with a bigger ram. Unlike spin 7 that I upgraded to 32gb and 2 storage drives--nvme main drive and 1tb hhd. It's been awesome for adobe suite even without dedicated gpu.
I just wanted to say thanks! Your outstanding video made this easy. I upgraded to a 1TB HP EX920 with no issues. :)
There needs to be 10% of the capacity of the entire SSD set aside for over provisioning as un-allocated space. So don't worry about non-contiguous spaces... for SSD it's immaterial and that unused space will be used for sector reassignment/garbage collection/etc ...
in-a-nutshell, reordering isn't important for SSDs anyway... it's only materially important for legacy, rotating media.
Also, be very careful about deleting 'recovery' partitions. Under a normal home-brew computer withe Windows 10 - there is only ONE recovery partition.
On OEM builds there can be many for various UEFI recovery options.
Thank you very much for this tutorial!!!! Because of this I upgraded from the 256GB that had speeds of 542.5 MBs read and 268 MBs write; also upgraded to Samsung 960 Pro 1TB NvME and speeds are a whopping 2734.3 MBs read and 1960.5 MBs write!!! Also the primocache or even samsung magician are just placebo affects to make it faster using cache but in real world use does not help and will actually slow down a little.
*** With Macrium you have to drag and drop each partition you are copying onto the new drive; you then take what space is left and calculate that onto the main partition by "undoing"/removing the last partitions. Then on partition properties you add the leftover space. I did not find an easier way to do this with the free version and after a few trials converting to MB from GB I was able to use every bit and byte of space
*** I also had the same error where the computer would not boot!!! said inaccessible boot device!!! errr; the Macrium Windows Boot error fix did not work either and after spending an AWFUL amount of time trying to figure how to get into safe mode, it worked exactly as you stated!!! safe mode is NOT in the advanced settings as many state for windows 10. I am not positive how I did it but may have held the shift key while rebooting several times or it just finally went into the boot options on it's own.
** another thing for whoever reads this is research how to make ssd last longer; don't defrag, enable TRIM, disable hibernate and superfetch, and set fixed amount of virtual memory/paging file size
Excellent! Thanks for posting a detailed update. Doing the upgrade now has gotten easier now that there are external NVMe capable enclosures too and the fact that one can use Samsung licensed software to do migration also makes it easy.
Holding SHIFT down while starting will give you the options to get to SAFE MODE for those wondering. Once you are in SAFE MODE, you can simply restart and it should work. It did for me.
Hey Mike, very helpful video. I want to report that the new notebook 9 pro (the one with i7 8550u cpu) has the exact same chassis and ssd upgrade procedure is exactly the same with respect to opening up the laptop. I can't verify whether the latest one supports nvme since I only upgraded to an 850 evo. hope this helps
WRC, that is really great to know. I'm betting its going to be the same NVME controller as my early 2017 model. Thanks!
I'm getting a black screen have any solutions? On my Samsung
So I happened upon this amazing video last week when I was going down a rabbit hole on upgrading my 2017 13” Samsung Notebook 9 Pro. It’s only 256gb, so I keep my 128gb Samsung MicroSD in port (just bought a new 256gb card on Prime Day). You’ve proven that the 9 Pro will accept the newer NVMe, however it looks like most of the Samsung SSDs available now are even newer & state “with V-NAND Technology” & are also PCle. Any idea whether these much newer drives will work with that laptop? Also, I know my measly 8gb of RAM is soldered to the motherboard & you answered someone else’s question about that a few years ago. I was wondering if there have been any updates in technology/techniques that would allow for an easy RAM upgrade?
I wanted to be sure that Samsung agrees that using NVMe / PCIe SSD is supported on the NP940X5N, just in case there was a power draw, heating issue or could cause a race condition, etc, etc... and they said the internal port *does* support NVMe. Below is the evidence in case people get push-back or warranty support problems:
> My specific question is: your manual says "SATA" but people have reported that NVMe drives also work in the Laptop. I would like to use the faster SSD if there is no harm in doing that.
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> A reminder that my notebook is: Series 9 Notebook NP940X5N
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You can use this Portable SSD T5 1TB
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> I am asking about an internal drive upgrade
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> to one of Samsung's laptops: NP940X5N
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> need to know if the internal port is PCIe / NVMe compatible -- people say it is but your manual doesn't say anything
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> Here is a link to someone upgrading to NVMe memory and says "it works!": ruclips.net/video/iVFJTmhrhNw/видео.html
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> Jump to 10:12 to see he is installing your 960 1TB SSD
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www.samsung.com/us/computing/windows-laptops/notebook-series-9/notebook-9-pro-15---256gb-ssd--np940x5n-x01us/#support
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> I would like to get confirmation from your engineering team before I buy my SSD
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All these will support [the link (above) just goes to Accessories Page for Laptop ], could you please check.
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> None of these are internal disk drives for a laptop.
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> I want something like this: www.samsung.com/us/computing/memory-storage/solid-state-drives/ssd-970-evo-nvme-m2-2tb-mz-v7e2t0bw/
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> Can you please ask a laptop technician if the internal port for SSD on the NP940X5N will support NVMe / PCIe?
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> Are you still there?
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> Should I just return this brand new laptop?
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Yes, iam checking this for you.
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> OK
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Thanks for waiting.
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> Thanks!
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Sorry, for the delay.
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It seems that it will support.
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> No problem - thanks for helping
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You`re welcome.
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> Great news.
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Do you have any other questions today?
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Yes.
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> You do not sound too certain when you say "it seems"...
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I am certain, I was saying that I confirmed with an expert IT technician.
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> This SSD is expensive (USD $350) so I want to make sure it is compatible.
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Yes, I am certain.
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Yes, you are correct.
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> Great. Thanks.
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> Goodbye.
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Are we all set?
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Hahah, thanks for that. Once presented with irrefutable evidence from my video, it 'seems' they have no choice but to confirm that it is compatible. Meanwhile, I've been enjoying my Samsung with the upgrade for over a good year now ;)
So at 17:37 is when you made the error you spoke about in the final part of the vid, correct? You are suppose to manually bring each partition and made sure your largest drive (c) is allocated with all that new extra space from the larger nvme drive, right?
Idtelos Sounds about right - as far as not having to do an extra step to make use of the expanded space with a partition manager.
Awesome. Thanks for the feedback. Upgrading from m.2 to nvme on my laptop that has pcie gen 3 lanes and wanted to find out a a way without having to buy adapters or whatnot.
Yup, I did it without buying any adapters - part of the challenge I put up for myself. Still, checkout the adapter I bought afterwards to make use of the SSD I changed out.
Thanks. So taking your advice, I swapped out the m.2 for the nvme and allocated the partitions correctly, they have to be in order as you add them. I tried adding that c drive last so I could automatically use up all the extra space from the nvme drive, but it would not let me do as such the minute I added the recovery partition. So all I did was to leave 800mb free after adding the c partition for the recovery part. Weird thing is, I was getting boot errors, tried fixing with usb recovery drive to no avail. I was able to boot-up in safe mode, similarly how you did and the pc booted correctly. After which, I fixed any bootup registry errors with another software. I was then able to boot normally.
Hey, it worked at the end. All partitions sized correctly, boots up property, that's all it matters. Incidentally, I added the OEM version of the soon to be release Samsung 980 Pro (PM981). The drive is absurdly fast with write speeds at 3500mb/s and write speeds at 3000mb/s, many many times faster than Sk Hynix m.2 my laptop had installed.
Hi Idtelos, I'm having the same issue, I guess. I upgraded it but as I downloaded windows from Microsoft again, it keeps restarting every now and then. Which software did you use to fix the bootup registry errors? Thank you
I just did this start to finish with copying in about 30mins. To make this easy if you buy a Samsung SSD just follow these easy steps, no BIOS stuff needed, super easy for a casual
Buy Samsung SSD
Buy m.2 SSD enclosure off Amazon ($15-$30)
Download the Samsung Migration from Samsung.com
Plug in new SSD in enclosure, run Samsung Migration
Follow steps for the clone, when finished with transfer it tells you to shut down and install new SSD that was just cloned to
Remove screws
Open Notebook case (where hinges are there are slots to pry open back cover)
Remove old and install new (install at angle and listen for small snap when it seats)
Close it back up, install screws
Boot up normally and should be all good
Now since you bought that enclosure for your old SSD you can use it as a portable storage drive or as a complete backup since it still has Windows on it so if anything goes wrong down the road you have have a COMPLETE swap in back up. Or just sell it if broke
Huge value now that $15-$40 enclosure price seems cheap now
Options:
If NVMe SSD download firmware from Samsung site
Run crystaldisk or other speed checker before and after and make sure things are on point
Bonus download Samsung Magician when down to see all the cool stuff about your SSD and health of it
Matt LeeGee Is there a certain model Samsung ssd you used?
Robert J I went with the 860 EV0 they are a 2018 release so pretty new. They are sata3 so not super speeds of nvme . But since being a new laptop I didn't want to add more heat running a pro, kept it stock just added more space
Matt LeeGee Thnx. Was looking at Samsung this morning. Thinking of going w 960. Do you think there would be difference (heat, etc) between 960 & 960 pro? Installed on 2017 Notebook 9/15"?
Robert J I'm not sure of actual heat output but most reviews of the 960 said extra heat. The 960 series is over a year old so there might be a new version on the horizon. In a laptop you don't have options for cooling like a desktop so keep that in mind
These instructions are for SATA 860 Evo, which I did over a couple years ago but NVMe that I have from Samsung is another monster and proving difficult.
Hi Mike, fantastic set of videos and also I absolutely love my 9 Pro. Question, do you know what kind of housing or adapter I should buy if I want to remove my existing SSD and connect it to my laptop via USB once I've replaced the existing SSD with a larger SSD? Is my original 256 GB SSD and NVME drive? I've been searching around but can't seem to find the answer.
Hi Dan!
Thanks! For this original video, I put the link in the comments for the one that I used: Adapter to reuse your SSD: amzn.to/2wS2EiS
Made a video about it too: ruclips.net/video/zpcDSuAt7x8/видео.html
I see that it is currently unavailable, so what you're looking for is M.2 22×42mm/60mm/80mm SATA SSD
Hello Mike, really nice video, but since you had the recording problem I couldn’t really get how did you work around the boot issue? I just follow your steps and when I tried to boot I got “unable to boot unbootable device”. You could help me with that I’d really appreciate it.
Hey Tomas,
Did you do what I said after that? Go back into Macrium Reflect...a few steps after this?
I think others have commented, and I'm trying to remember...
Turn off the system.
Reset Bios.
Turn back on.
Boot into Safe Mode.
Shut down.
Should work after this.
Let me know what part you get to before it shows the proper boot so that we can get the actual sequence down somewhere.
@@MikeMu Hello Mike, so after some research I found out that this boot problem is related with the the fact that Windows when set up on a SATA drive isn't configured to load the NVMe class driver at boot, so when that installation is moved onto an NVMe SSD, it won't be set up to read it. I found also that Macrium has a feature called "ReDeploy" that should make this transition smoother, however this is only available in the paid version (you cannot get it in the trial version either).
So my solution was to simply follow your steps. After the recovery was completed I rebooted and went directly to the safe boot (shift+F8 -> Troubleshoot -> Startup Settings then press 4), then I rebooted back to normal mode and it was all working! Also the extend partition thing is pretty easy too, just had to choose "partition properties" before the recover and set the desired size for each one of them.
Thanks a lot mate!
Can confirm that np940x5n works as well with 970 evo, thanx for test it )
Great info, thanks! My friends at Best Buy are completely overwhelmed by the amount of data I had on my HP LT (750Gb hdd) that they tried to migrate to a new 15" 9 pro. I
'm Struggling to decide on the 1tb or 500Gb drive upgrade. either way, I will send them the link to your site when I bring it back to install the new drive!
Can you make a vid about changing thermal paste?
I'm trying to upgrade my np940x5n-x01us. I'm using Clonezilla from a USB3 flash drive. Problem is when I go to enable USB booting, I only have the one Windows Boot Manager option, no option #2. Does the USB Flash drive need to be a USB-C drive or can it be USB3?
Wayne Johnson USB 3 should work just fine.
I have the exact same model number as you, Wayne.
I've worked in IT for a many number of years. That said, this isn't working for me no matter what.
So, the entire video works flawless for me along with the proper Resize of the partitions.... going from a 512gb B-Key M.2 sata ssd to a 1TB 970Pro M-Key m.2 ssd (and even tried with a 970 Evo Plus). The two 970 SSD's are brand new from Amazon just for this upgrade purpose.
When I pop in the NVMe into my Samsung laptop, the BIOS sees it perfectly fine. My next goal after that is to do a CLEAN install of Windows. I use the official Microsoft media creation tool to create a bootable media of Windows 10 installation. Upon using that, at the beginning of the installation wizard it does not recognize that the SSD is installed yet however bios sees it perfectly fine. Even if I initiate the command prompt within the installation wizard to use Diskpart, Diskpart does NOT see the SSD. But BIOS sees it fine. Furthermore, if I take out the SSD and attach it to an external enclosure, loading up my windows environment from another SSD will see that enclosure just fine and Diskpart can see that SSD that is within the enclosure. But if I take out that SSD from the enclosure and pop it back into the motherboard so that I can do a clean install, though the BIOS can see the SSD it is the Windows installation wizard that cannot see it nor can Diskpart that is launched from within the insulation wizard is able to see that ssd. Truly an anomaly.
This has now happened on multiple ssds that I have tried to accomplish this project with.
Whether I try doing a clone or whether I try doing a CLEAN install, I can't get it to be recognize. Tinkering with the BIOS settings no matter which way yields the same result. Even using an M-KEY m.2 ssd external enclosure to do various different types of cloning and/or reformatting....all yields the same result.
I'm able to see the 970's (both the Pro and the Evo Plus) through Diskpart within my Windows environment. I am able to see the BIOS interpret that either 970 is in fact installed. But after that, neither a Macrium restore using the Rescue thumb drive nor using a fresh Windows Installation bootable media stick can see either of these two drives in existence.
I need MAD help!! 😭
Mike maaaaan!!!
Please advise can I upgrade ram 16 ddr4 to 32ddr4 on this model???
How many ram slot's got this model ?
Ram size is it normal.... laptop size or it's different ..or soldered on motherboard???
The is the max SSD I can upgrade to? Can it be taken to 2 TB as well?
Excellent video. Very thorough. Very helpful.
This might be a dumb question, but if I don't care to clone/copy my info over and am happy with a fresh install, can I just create a windows boot drive, swap in the new harddrive, and boot/install windows fresh? Then maybe just go back and install the necessary samsung software?
Yes of course you can.
THANK YOU! I just was looking for a vdeo which could tell me if i can put on a nvme for my samsung laptop,for the new msfs 2020!
You're welcome. Yes, that was the BIG question that I answered early on in the product lifecycle. I wanted to know too at the time.
This video is old so idk if you're going to respond, but I think I made a mistake.
I'm trying to upgrade my Samsung Notebook 9 Pro's current SSD to a Samsung 980 PRO NVMe SSD. I guess I thought I could just clone the current drive directly to the 980 using Samsung's Data Migration Tool while having the new drive connected via USB in an adapter. I didn't realize I should have cloned the current drive to a separate external drive.
Did I just ruin the new drive by cloning to it? Can I reset the new drive back to its original state by just deleting all the files on it or something?
There are many different ways to do this. I simply showed one way that also did a backup. You can reset, probably just using the original Samsung tools. No permanent damage is done.
Thanks for the videos, they are big help in understanding how to cleanly upgrade. I just wanted to verify that your upgrade to a 1TB NVMe drive is working properly. I have an NP940x5m with a 256GB SSD that I would like to upgrade to 1TB. I asked Samsung support about what it supports and they claim it doesn't support NVMe or anything larger than 256GB. Is that just them being safe because they didn't test it or did you upgrade a different model? Thanks
I’ve been using my upgraded 1TB for a while now. And yes, my video proves that it is fully supported. Samsung support is not aware of this.
Nice that you grounded, but why didn't cut battery?
x2ES Should have. Didn’t. Yes should cut the battery.
because in reality he has no idea what he is doing.
@@iannamico You've found me out!
@@MikeMu it's painfully obvious
@@iannamico Good, that's what I was going for. If I can do it, so can you!
Mine is Notebook 9. Just wonder how to know if it support NvME M.2?
Mike, do you know if this can only be done with Samsung drives? I've got an NP940Z5L that I'm adding an SK Hynix P31 M.2 NvME drive into, and no matter what I do the BIOS won't recognize the SK Hynix drive. I've added the SK Hynix into my Asus mobo desktop PC and it is recognized instantly. Knowing that the drive functions, there must be an issue with the laptop BIOS settings. The only other possibility is that there is a hardware failure with the SATA Port 1. Thanks for any guidance.
Hi John, it could be that it's too new. Did you try updating the Samsung laptop's BIOS to see if they updated it to accept newer drives? If not, you may be out of luck because this laptop is most likely end of life support by now if not already.
Mike do you know where there are replacement battery outlet for this laptop ... its driving me insane how Samsung provides no help in this area
Battery outlet? You mean just a battery or do you mean the jack for the power?
@@MikeMu the battery I cant find it anywhere please let me know where I can get one. I'm hoping you would know there are bogus sellers with elaborate sites but steal money. Had that happen already.
Hi, nice video, please read this comment if you got time, I own a Samsung Notebook 9 Pen, and I'd like to modify my laptop as well(let's not talk about the parts yet), but the computer doesn't even seem to have a way to be opened, no screws, whatsoever, if you will ever get this product(or maybe you do) please tell me how I can open up this baby and swap some parts out. Thanks!
Can you share the specific model #? Also check under any stickers to see if there are any screw holes covered.
Hey Mike so I currently do Video Editing on my Note book and it lags alote for the most part when adding effects ,with this upgrade with the ssd with it make it faster and not make it Lagg so much ? Thank you and great video
My samsung notebook bios won't give me the option to boot up from my external ssd where I put my image..
Mike, thanks for the video. Since your new SSD is by Samsung anyway, I wonder why you did not use the Samsung Disk Magician to do the cloning? I have used the Disk Magician and it is very simple to use. But it will only work for the Samsung SSD.
I wanted to make one that anyone can use. But yes, Samsung included software would have been an easy ‘free’ choice.
@@MikeMu I have the exact Samsung laptop (notebook pro 9) on your video. You indicated on your video that the original SSD was with a SATA interface. You replaced it with a Samsung 960. Fast forward 2 years, only the 970 and 980 are available. Both the 970 and 980 are with the PCIe Gen 3.0x4 NVMe1.3, and the PCIe Gen 4.0x4 NVMe1.3c respectively. Would the newer interfaces be backward compatible to the old SATA interface? Or does it only mean the 256GB SSD came with the laptop was the SATA interface? The laptop is capable for the NVMe1.3?
Do you think the 970 or the 980 is the better choice for this laptop? I have not purchased the SSD yet. Many thanks for sharing.
@@tonywong9681 From my experience they are backwards compatible, but the only real way is to try it and see. I'd go for the cheaper option between the 970 and 980 for this laptop.
How has your computer been working? I been thinking of getting this laptop for mostly work (light weight stuff), but sometimes do some gaming, and CAD designing.
So far good! Lately been having it render 360 videos at night, plus light to heavy editing during the day (4K)
@@MikeMu sounds like it will probably work well enough for me. Thank you.
I'd like to upgrade RAM on this laptop to 64 or at least to 32 GB. But it seems that RAM is soldered on to the mother board. It' there any way to upgrade it?
Not unless you have the tools and skill to replace the ram. Few people have both.
Thanks for the great videos Mike I have a Samsung notebook 9 and I am wondering if you thought your upgrade would work on mine. Seem like a big job but if you feel it might work I may try it. And if it doesn't I will not blame you for your opinion. I enjoy watching people who take blame of little mistake and move' on keep up the good work.
Hi Jim!
I think the Samsung Notebook 9 (non pro) would also follow the same upgrade path. I think I saw some other guides on the upgrade (non-video) where this would have worked. However, I don't recall if they used NvME SSDs or SATA SSDs. Without having the model to try myself its a ? on the supported SSD. SATA only or NvME. Regardless of which you choose, I'm sure it'd still be an upgrade compared to what you have in the Samsung notebook 9 now.
Thanks for the comment and question,
Mike
Hi Mike!
I'm thinking of doing a fresh install of Windows 10 Pro on a MVME 960 Pro,my Bios look like yours. I've did fresh installs before and feel comfortable doing them. Getting around the Samsung Bios to boot from my usb is a problem. If there is a quick fix for doing a fresh install it would be greatly appreciated. Keep up the great video!
PS. Samsung says I can't update my ram memory, any thoughts.
Hi Jim,
You shouldn't have any problems booting from USB. I think I showed what settings I used in my BIOS, so if yours is the same, should be no issue. I do recommend checking for any updates on the BIOS or other firmware and installing those first before you proceed. Reset the BIOS too after the update.
The RAM is soldered on so unless you have access to the skills and tools necessary you are stuck where you are at right now. If you were in China Shenzen, you can source your own RAM chips and tools to do the upgrade yourself. I've seen someone do it with a fancy hair dryer and some off the shelf soldering kit and template, but its going to be something you're going to want to practice on other boards before you attempt it on your own.
Good luck and let me know how it goes.
-Mike
Hi Mike,
I can't get my computer to get passed the "All boot options are tried" screen. It says to press F4 to recover with factory image but it just keeps rebooting. I do have a backup and disk image saved to my hard drive.
Did you try repair option? Try a partition manager, set to boot. www.easeus.com/partition-manager/epm-free.html
Great video. What about the Notebook 9 pen (2018 model), has someone tried to use a Kingston NVMe 1 TB SSD?
I'm pretty sure its going to work.
Is there a cheaper option for this 1 TB SSD, maybe by SATA? Thanks so much. Great video.
If under lower budget, the Samsung EVO 860 is a good choice at under $170. amzn.to/2FQt0a6
Mike Mu, I did the upgrade of the SSD, however I didn't clone the disk. I ended up having a clean windows install from Microsoft website, now my computer keeps restarting every now and then. Mmy question is, do you still have the cloning image with you? Is there any way I can download that and would that work? I'm going back to the US in December and I really need it for work overseas. Really in need of help here. Thank you in advance
Thiago,
If you didn't clone the disk, you should have the original installation and files from your old SSD. It'd be a simple matter of just re-installing that and doing an upgrade the same way I did. Besides that, a fresh/clean install from Microsoft should have been Ok though. Computer restarting is a different matter, I'd probably try and resolve that first.
I'm afraid I don't have a cloned image handy right now. I had an issue with my NAS drive by QNAP and haven't had time to resolve it yet - that's where the images would have been located if I kept them. I'll check tomorrow if a recovery set of images can still be done from my laptop and let you know if its fruitful.
-Mike
If I just bought the computer and I want a clean windows install, can I skip the cloning and just install the hard drive part and boot it from the usb media and install the windows
Most likely, yes. Do a backup first or use the tools from Samsung to make a backup just in case though.
Love the video thank you Mike! Everthing works great but my Samsung Pro 9 doesn't what to wake up from sleep. I did a fresh windows install. Still no luck. If I close lid and set it to sleep as it does not wake up. I have all windows updates and latest drivers installed. I ended up putting a 970 Pro in. I have no other issues other than that. I tried every windows trick and suggestion. I thought to reach out as a last resort. Any ideas? Thanks again for all your great videos! Chris
Did you download the Samsung toolkit for the notebook? I'd start there. I went over whats in that in my review video for this notebook. You will want the firmware and tools updates installed to get that functioning back.
@@MikeMu Thanks Mike for the quick reply. Do you mean Samsung Settings? I can't find Samsung Tool Kit for this unit. What video did you explain this in? I watched your review 2 years ago...can you share that video link you are referring to. Can you share the link to the Samsung Tools? Many thanks.
@@websiteheroes6767 Thats it, Samsung Settings. ruclips.net/video/qrEiqsyDANU/видео.html Apparently you can download the app from the Microsoft store, just search for Samsung Update.
Hello. Thanks for your video. I dropped my laptop (9 pro 2019) and it hit where the hard drive is and now in the boot it says there is no sata port installed and I get the error "all boot options tried" and in my boot options, there is nothing. Do you think the hard drive just dislocated or is it dead?
Best bet is to open it up and see. Also check the BIOS first and reset that to default settings.
@@MikeMu thanks. I opened it up and the hard disk was dislocated. They forgot to put its screw
@@HeliaAkbari wow…. Well that’s a simple enough fix.
which linux or unix systems will it run? Has it still got a flakey UEFI bios which crashes regularly ? Most enterprise operators dont use the failed windows 10 operating system.Can you buy the linux version in the UK ? What about the forthcomming AMD versions
Hi Mike, excellent video! I got a Notebook 9, the other version that has no pen (NP900-X5T), its pretty similar to yours. Here in my Brazil, Samsung changed the drive for even worse one than Samsung SATA III that I saw in your video. Here we have a Lite-On drive with very very poor performance. Using CrystalDisk, I realized that Lite-On is at least ten times slower than a 960 Evo that I have in other PC. I wanna replace the Lite-On drive by this 960 Evo. My main concern its about the warranty. Here the manafacturers do the "best" to cancel the warranty. So I am afraid this kind of repair will cause the warranty cancelation. So, I'd like to ask you if you noticed any seals in the screws or something else that can reveal that the device was opened?
+Luciano Castilho Everything was recorded in my video just in case. I don’t recall if there was, but just because the USA model does not have seals doesn’t mean yours wouldn’t. We have a law that opening up our products won’t won’t automatically void the warranty.
These were made to be opened up IMO.
Plus I think everyone should open up their laptop after a while to clean out dust that may block the ventilation.
I’d say go for it. Oh, disconnect the battery just in case.
Thanks for replying Mike. Here we have that law about opening product too. The thing is, for computers many manufacturers here don´t seal their product because upgrades are expected. Anyways, I appreciated your answer!
You should be fine, and I personally think its an upgrade worth voiding warranty for as long as you don't damage your laptop. Make sure you are grounded - I think that part I shared in my video.
Also, its not too difficult for someone to tell whether or not someone has opened a laptop anyway...
I'm looking at that but can't identify the RAM stick, where is it hiding?
The ram is soldered directly onto the motherboard in these laptops.
I did exactly the same thing for my new labtop (Samsung Notebook 9 Pro 8GB/256GB) to upgrade into NVMe SSD 960 PRO M.2. Mine shows exactly the same result as yours (24:52). Then I have no idea how to make a merge of C: and the Unallocated (which is non-adjacent). I HAVE NO IDEA for the next step. How I move the unallocated partition adjacent to C: and merge together to make one single C:?
Use a disk partition utility. The same software publisher provides a free version you can use as well.
I can't increase my Samsung 960 to full size. I've tried three different programs. What did you use to increase yours? I've tried Macrium, Paragon Partition, and Paragon Partition.
Ron Smith Acronis Disk Director only because I had it, purchased years ago and was ready to got. But any of those you just mentioned should work fine.
Try using EaseUS partition manager. It's free and really easy to use.
I will have to try that next time. Thanks.
Sir i really need your help with my SAMSUNG NOTEBOOK SPEN NT940X3M-K38.. it fell face down on the floor which resulted to a broken lcd. although it is still working fine, i just want the lcd panel to be replaced. it's made in china but it's from korea. Where can i possibly order 1 LCD panel for this model?
Ouch, that's horrible. I've cracked a screen or two in the past on older notebooks and chose not to repair because parts were too expensive.
Here in the states, I'd recommend ebay for the best deal. If you want OEM parts, www.samsungparts.com/Default.aspx
np940z5l-x01us will the NVME drive work for that as well?
Someone posted earlier that they were able to do it with their np940 series, so my bet on it is yes, you can - at least with a version of the 970 Evo series.
Hey man the link to your screwdriver set is down, can you put the link in this comment. Also is there a set I can use both for Macbook and this Samsung notebook?
Hey. Sorry about that. I will see about a new link.
@@MikeMu Thanks
@@Techshorts3459 I'm sorry, I searched and cannot find it. They sell a set, but it no longer includes the pentalobe set. I suggest getting a set from iFixit.com instead then. The set I used in the video is by MinInch: mininch.com/store/tool-pen
@@MikeMu Amazing thanks a lot I'll check them out. Have a good one and keep up the great work
Oh boy, where to start... I tried this on the more recent 2019 model (NP930MB) with a Crucial P3 1tb NVMe m.2 ssd... Let's just say, it didn't end up working. I cloned it with no issues through an enclosure, but it never booted, just hung on the "samsung" logo. Keyboard keys would't respond either, no bios access. After removing it, I was able to enter the bios.
So, I then tried flicking basically every setting in the very limited bios... No luck with any of them. Finaly, I booted from a usb install flash with the drive in, and the drive was recognized without anny issues. Install process seemed to work, untill the first reboot, where it hung on the "samsung" screen in the same way again. This tells me that it is both able to use and recognize the disk, but the bios seems to be unable to boot it. Also, no bios flashes available to fix this (thay I am aware of).
Anyway, if you're going to try this on a 2019 model, good luck. Not sure why it doesn't work, you'd think it basically has the same bios. (Ps. If anybody has experience with this, I'm all ears :))
Thanks for the comment. The main thing I can think of is if there is a new BIOS update that resolves this or not and then if you really want to try for the upgrade, try a different NVMe (stick to Samsung if you can).
@@MikeMu Yeah, obviously Samsung does not release updates for these laptop BIOS, (or at least I could not find one) lol. At this point I might just wait a little longer and get a new laptop :)
Can anyone confirm if the 960 Pro 1TB NvME M.2 will work in a NP-940x3g (non pro)?
Do these laptops handle the speeds of those 960 evos?
Joey Crysel Yup. No problems.
@@MikeMu Nice. I know what I'm buying for mine then lol.
You can also just buy a m.2 to usb housing for 10-15 bucks on amazon and then clone the internal ssd. That would be faster and less prone to errors.
+Akash Bahai Depends on end goal. It is still safer to clone from internal to external drive without touching what’s inside the laptop. But if continuing with my upgrade path in the end, yes the result is same but I wouldn’t be as safe if done without a backup first. I’d still backup everything before opening up the laptop. Since I was upgrading to Nvme, there isn’t an external enclosure for it.
so you are able to upgrade the slow SATA to PCIe SSD?
Yes, that's the big discovery in the video. You can see the evidence at 14:45.
Hey what if I don’t back it up??? I don’t really care about the data!
Then just do a completely clean install. You can download the Samsung drivers/utilities from Samsung.
Mike Mu would that be hard?? I’m just scared of my laptop messing up 😭
In that case please do a backup. There should be a decent tutorial on doing a clean install somewhere on RUclips. If I do one this year, I may do a video on it.
Mike Mu awesome!! Thanks so much!
Your’re suppose to unplug the battery before installing anything!
Good point! You *were* paying attention. It can get risky if something slips.
But honestly, I've never done it on my laptop upgrades and I've done at least a dozen basic ones being mindful of the power switch. It's a bad habit.
Although replacing power plugs, I do unplug the battery.
why does the back of your drive box say USED?
I bought it used.
Do NvME SSDs produce more heat or do anything that might mess up the system? I just ordered the notebook 9 pro and would really want to upgrade the memory but I'm not sure whether or not to get mSATA or NvME. I do a lot of digital art and animation/video editing, would that contribute to the amount of 'writing' I'd be doing onto the card? Any help would be really appreciated!
I have not noticed anything detrimental to the performance of the laptop with my upgrade - otherwise, what is the point other than more storage? The performance benefits are fantastic, and yes of course digital artists will of course do a lot more writing than other normal users. At least that is the case for me.