Dewalt still has an impact made in the USA if you look for it and what is outsourced is more likely to be in North America, Everything but blades from Milwaukee is made in China. Part of the rebranding over the last decade was specifically to cover that up.
Don't care where it's made if it works and in our shop we have both one of our guys prefers red and the other yellow. I run all red from battery life to reliability Milwaukee is king and I used to own a power tool repair shop which my nephew now runs and it's a no brainier!
Anything with a 100 percent Full replacement Guarantee that lasts a few years at the least. Some Music Equipment comes With lifetime replacement guarantee so why cant tools. Lmfao
@bonfireblu that's why I love harbor freight made in USA tools.. may be cheap but I'm paying 10% of snap on price tops for a lifetime tool that takes 10 minutes to replace just by walking into your nearest harbor freight
@@lincolnbarlow4778 lol right?? I mean you can set yourself up with a path of logic to make that seem true, but without knowing how much power is being sent to the motor, heat is being generated/dispersed, force is put on it the drive components to come to a sudden stop, etc. there is no bases to make such a claim!
what are you talking about? Dewalt only ever made Radial arm saws. The dewalt line of tools started in early 90’s was and always been a rebranding of B&D industrial line, and swiss made Elu tools. All top of the line tools. Black and decker bought the rights to dewalt in 1960. sold the rights of radial arm saw in 1989. Dewalt has always been a rebranding excercise. And it was B&D who took over stanley. and porter cable. they are now the largest tool company in the world
@@brycecourtneymusicI mean come on guys time to admit it . I was a dewalt guy for years and they have dropped the ball . I’ve basically switched to all Milwaukee at this point. Dealt used to have the best hammer/drill so I didn’t care that maybe their impact was a little behind or that the sawzall are absolute dog shit .. but at this point they don’t have a better drill then Milwaukee. Dewalt is done for if you ask me .
In a workshop wired tools are best almost all the time. Problem people have is that their power outlets positions are horrible. Make a new power outlets to your workbench AND put few on your ceiling at the arm height. At any given time you can just plug the needed too cord on outlet just next to you and be done. You usually need 3-4 plugs for each position so you can have 2-3 tools at the same time available to be used. And for workshop tools, the air tools are just way nicer to use by their low noise utilization. As long you have compressor in another room...
@@4wheelliving132 you worry far less with corded tools than with cordless. Even when you have 2:1 ratio of batteries vs tools, you end up playing around with batteries, charging them, waiting, swapping... Just playing around all the time with them. You dont put lot of chargers to always have them charged as some are always in your machine and now you are again walking across rooms to get the battery or place it there. Corded is just "pick tool, plug in and use, after day unplug it and return to shelf". There really is no thinking. The opposite goes when you need to go remote. But then again corded ones win in power. You can have the small gasoline generator for full day work time in forest or other off-site, or battery pack and you get example full 1800-2500W power from all saws, table saws, drills etc. As when you are working example with 45x600 mm drill bits on thick lumber etc, you don't use battery powered tools there. Battery powered tools have their places and all, but not so great as corded tools in dedicated workplace. And when you have a dedicated workstation for specific work, it is idiotic to dedicate a cordless tool on that. It is as smart as using a battery powered table saw.... Sorry, but dedicated table saw is the way to go in workshop. Some don't have change to dedicate space for table saw, but they still benefit from corded power vs battery powered one. The world is crazy about battery powered tools. And used way too many for tasks that are better with some other power methods. Every tool has their purpose and all. Like a tiny battery powered screwdriver that fits on your palm is great when you are assembling cabinet or doing normal house repairs or even building a deck, as it is so tiny. Any normal large drill is big, cumbersome, just not good tool for all cases. And when you have remote workstation ready to go, it is nice to have dedicated tools for it, charged and all ready to be rolled out, picked to car and go... Be able work that 1-2 hours before recharging. No cords or fuel or anything.
I love the brand loyalty folks. Its always been simple for me. Whichever I have the most batteries for, I kept buying. To me, the biggest advantage a tool had was a hand full of batteries that fit it from the rest of the tools I wasn't using.
When deciding new power tools for my new job, I called around a few tool shops and asked which brand had the least warranty returns. Milwaukee was the least returned followed by Makita. There were quite a few 15 year old team red drills and drivers at my last job in a fab shop that were still going strong.
yeah 😂 i have seen more dewalts break then i cak remember the battery comes loose or wont hold a charge meanwhile i use my red tools to.beat things into working again 😂 like i couldnt get my door to unlock so i just used my milwaukee hammer till Chinese lock gave up
Frequency is not indicative of anything. If 100 people return DeWalts and only 10 returned Milwaukee, but 10,000 bought DeWalts and only 100 bought a Milwaukee, the Milwaukees are returned at a greater rate. 10% of Milwaukees are returned vs 1% of DeWalts in this example.
@serious.business I suppose this is correct. However 90% of tradies on sites I work on run Milwaukee, DeWalt isn't overly common and Makita are maybe sometimes seen on home building sites. I work in food industry manufacturing & Milwaukee is the standard gear for pretty much everyone
When i started using Milwaukee, they were only available at professional supply houses. Instead of comparing new stuff,compare some old stuff and Milwaukee wont have ay competition
@@Nomad137-FJC I've used them all. I stuck with DeWalt because I've had great success with the batteries and tools lasting years of daily hard use. I like Milwaukee a lot, but there's absolutely no reason to switch everything over. My only non DeWalt tool is a Bosch Bulldog Max SDS Hammerdrill. I've been using the Bulldig line so many years that I stick with a great brand in those drills.
I’ve been using the same Bosch batteries for about 8 years. Still working along with my drill, impact, orbital saw and jigsaw. I purchased my brother a Milwaukee fuel impact set for his birthday and it’s definitely more powerful than my Bosch but I doubt the batteries will last as long.
I personally use Milwaukee but dewalt is right up there with it, along with makita. They’re tools, if they make your job easier, they’re doing their job.
I'm a Milwaukee guy, but I have DeWalt, Makita, Ryobi, Craftsman and Hercules cordless tools in my shop. Anyone who has only one tool type is either a) sponsored, b) very specialized, or c) new to this. I even have a DeWalt Murdermatic 790 radial arm saw in my shop :)
You forgot d) doesn't want to go through the expense of buying multiple of tools with multiple varieties of batteries. It's simply not financially smart. It's one thing to get corded tools, because there isn't that extra expense of batteries. Being in the trades it sure gets bad when power isn't available for plugging in. Now a generator has to be purchased to run corded tools. So pros and cons everywhere.
I committed to Makita years ago, but if I had to start over I would go with Milwaukee. I just think they are better throughout their entire line. Plus I'm ticked that HD committed to Makita years ago, and now they don't carry crap for Makita. My HD doesn't even carry a single makita miter saw. I mostly end up ordering on line now, but it sucks not being able to go into the store and seeing/touching most of their line.
You know, I love watching power tool showdowns just as much as the next guy. But it is frustrating sometimes how the raw strength of a tool is so often deemed as its most important attribute - or even worse, the only important attribute. I'm something of a jack of all trades, master of none, but more than anything I would consider myself a low voltage technician. In my line of work, I find the granularity of the trigger pressure to be one of the most important factors for an impact, and for that reason, I am personally in the Makita gang - even though I KNOW they're not the most powerful or the fastest. There are many aspects of my job where I should PROBABLY be using a screwdriver instead, but I feel like I could perform surgery with my Makita impact, so I reach for that nine times out of ten. If I were a framer, or a drywaller, or a roofer, I might feel differently. I will say however, that if I were a full-time electrician or plumber, I'd probably be very drawn to Milwaukee just because they happen to have some SICK ass specialty tools that cater to those two professions.
@@donaldholden2090 Yeah it's like the towing capacity of trucks for people that never need to tow anything close it. . . Dewalt, Milwaukee etc all have impact guns for steel connections. . . It's not impressive, it's just a selling point for people who don't know better, clever marketing . . . I had to redo some outlets put into metal studs, done with a Milwaukee fuel impact, and stripped the fuck out of it. When the power behind the tool is exceeds the material being used it's pointless. . . In fact, I drill on the slowest setting with my Dewalt drill whenever going into steel studs because I am much less likely to drop the screws that way. . .
I just upgraded to the Milwaukee fuel line from my old makita set and when I first ran the impact I was blown away by the power. Now I'm going to get the 1/2 inch impact for mechanic tasks
The fuel medium power 1/2” impact is incredible. I do structural ironwork and it will torque and un-torque 3/4 structural bolts all day which use a 1&1/4” socket. Phenomenal tool.
Be careful with high torque impact. Those sucker are know to bust off wheel studs while putting lug nuts back on. It's also know to bust nuts loose up to 2200 ft lbs with a forge battery. That's not over exaggerating either.
@ToolswithSoAlz 🤣 too funny! ... I find brand loyalty to be an interesting phenomenon. Everyone has this desire to believe whatever crap they own must be the best. It's really just a byproduct of a spoiled society. Men of the past didn't care this much what badge was painted on the side of their tools, as long as they worked.
Have to say as a professional electrical contractor ive had a lot of different brands over the years. I ended up with Milwaukee and have changed all my battery tools to Milwaukee, not because of speed but just the feel and the power. At the end of the day it's what feels good and your budget.
The old Milwaukee was made in Germany and had the best triggers in the industry hands down. Milwaukee then moved ALL of its manufacturing to China and the triggers are awful. For wood working, I;m sticking to Dewalt. They typically have the best quick change and I can get parts at Lowes and HomeDepot. So I have nothing but Dewalt batteries. For working on cars, I use the Milwaukee 12V stuff - powerful enough once I break the bolts and fast and compact (can't fit an 18 or '20'V battery. Milwaukee also seems to have more metal working tools. Could be wrong on that...
I prefer Milwaukee but Dewalt is really close and I would take it just the same. They’re both really good. I am a professional electrician. Master electrician. I use these tools every single day
I have the dewalt, but I bought it because of the price point and it’s ability to squeeze in tight spaces. The Milwaukee is small but still bigger than the dewalt, so I not surprised about the performance difference. If I wanted to hog down on a lag I’d just grab a 1/2 inch impact and wreck both of them. Milwaukee is nice but I’ve been pretty well satisfied with dewalt pricing/performance so until they start making complete shit I’ll probably stick with them
Dewalt prices are not much better than Milwaukee. And dewalt lacks power. If you’re a pro, dewalt is low quality. If you’re not trying to spend, go for rigid. Comparable power as dewalt much less money
@@Searchng man I've been to home depot... If the dewalt is 200 with battery and the Milwaukee is 300 with battery, im going with dewalt. I don't need the extra 2 seconds that badly. Also, I notice a lot of contractors use dewalt when the company is buying Dewalt tools, where as self employed buy Milwaukee.
For anybody new to tools my best advice is to look at the brands full list of what they sell of other tools and packout options. All drills/impacts still get the job done pretty much but brand matching really matters due to batteries cause them bitches ain’t cheap
Your vid just came up after I watched the Torque Test Channel's vid on the $55, $60, and $80 Gen 2 HyperTough impact SETS (tool, batt, charger) at Wally World. They are killin' it!
I mean... He's right. If you look at the piece of wood in the part where he says to look at the holes, you can clearly see the knot locations. The spot of the screw for the DeWalt driver is definitely in line with that knot. It's just zoomed in during the test, presumedly to hide that
I agree, been splitting knotted wood all afternoon with the kiddos that shit for sure had an effect….i own dewalt but think Milwaukee is better…would love to see same test again
Been an absolute Dewalt brand Buyer for decades since the majority of my work is in the carpentry trades. I did over 4 yr work contracts in the Bahamas on a couple of Islands after Hurricane Dorian. my clients supplied my crew w/ the entire line of high end $$$ comercial and industrial grade Milwaukee tools majority of cordless tools. Bottom line? They absolutely sucked and didnt last more than 3 months . I was lucky to get 2 months out of their 18v batteries. The power tools went to shit in the salt air in no time. We went thru over $50k of cordless Milwaukee crap. I ended up bringing my own Dewalt set up cordless tools , table saws , slide compound miter saws, ect... I brought 1/2 of them back in 2021 and still using this same Dewalt tools. The other 1/2 is still back in the Bahamas which I still have clients and jobs still contracted . MILWAUKEE tools suck in salt air. Let that be a warning
After growing up with my dads old Milwaukee tools and seeing the insides these days through channels like AvE, I just can't justify spending the extra $ for Milwaukee. The same internals with a couple different parts most of the time. Plus dewalt makes the best consumer impacts on the market right now, and Makita makes a nice grinder.
@@0037kevin I used my dads old hole-hog a couple years ago. All metal, plugged in, and chewed a 4 inch hole right through the metal flashing and sill beams on the side of the house for a drier vent.
I have Dewalt, Mikita, and Milwaukee tools, they have pros and cons all. Honestly I use my Mikitas most because of the charging speeds, they may be slightly underpowered but I rarely drive 10" Riser lags. I will say I've had trigger failures on two of my Milwaukee tools, the skilll saw and a hammer drill. Upside is we have competition and the B op tools are getting better all the time.
Awe jer tool brand lost and now she's having a mental breakdown. Sorry Honey but it didn't do any better in the rematch either. In that one we put Milwaukee through the center of a knot and it still won.
@@ToolswithSoAlz 1. Im not arguing DeWalt is better. Milwaukee is probably better. Milwaukee has 3500rpm and 4300irm and 225Nm vs DeWalt has 3250rpm and 3800irm and 210Nm but is cheaper. If i found right specs. Yes on paper it looks sligthly powerfull. So i will expect similar difference in real life performance. But that was not point of my comment. If you think it was then go read it again.In this case it looks like you are Milwaukee fan boy and intentionallyworsen conditions for DeWalt to make your favorite brand looks better. Which I hope is not true.2. Realy? Can you share proof of Milwaukee screwing faster into knot? I would like to see how much it is better.
With that high torque drill of yours, you have no chance to save your limbs! Impact driver breaks the torque for you and does the trick saving hands and arms.
@@mishkaulitkin9476 That's why most drills have kickback feature. Most people also have a small and light drill with 60-90 Nm torque they use for most things that are not a problem to hold back. The professionals have a second drill with 100+Nm with better handles etc. they can use for the larger stuff
Welllll, it's as u saiiid, it iiiiis the best ""'"dewalt""" impact on the market, NOT THEEEE BEST IMPACT IMPACT ON THE MARKET. Peculiar annnd good of you 2 word it like that, i caught it.
Complete opposite here, i hate replacing the tools from millwaukee because they keep breaking. By all means dont biy the circle saw, trigger problems with the last 4 of them. I own most every brand 18v btw.
@@J2Shay odd.. I’ve beat the snot out of my Milwaukee and there great. Dewalt had the board in the trigger that always kept going bad for me. Warrantied 3 of them. Atomic brushless 3/8 was the tool and my batteries after 2 years screws started falling out of the bottom there’s 4 small screws.
@justinmann3617 thanks for the heads up on the dewalt. Was thinking of converting to their newer higher end 18v tools. Only 18v that are lasting for me are the flex brand from lowes, the tools are durrable but the batteries leak and dont last. Theres issues with every combo kit i guess.....
This would be more landscaping and timber frame for which I think it would be exactly what those guys use. But for furniture and fine wood work a twist drill might be a better choice yeah. There are the lighter settings
The M18 has an additional 1100 IPM (4900 vs 3800) and 350 RPM (3600 vs 3250), but slightly less torque (1700 vs 1825). Max torque shouldn't be much of a factor on a task like this. While specs aren't 100% definitive, this result really shouldn't surprise anyone. The DCF840 may be a slightly better match, it's a bit closer with 4200 IPM. But in tests like this, IPM and speed tends to beat torque.
@@ToolswithSoAlz even when the 850 was new it was still a tad underpowered compared to the 845. its the best dewalt because its the most compact impact in the world, until just recently when the dewalt 860 2500 in lbs and 870 oil impact were released. that milwaukee is impressive!
Milwaukee triggers are u reliable and the battery connection gets flogged out with only small plastic pointed bits holding it tight, after a few months use they get loose and you need to hold the battery on to keep the connection to tool.
I'm a lineman and the company buys Dewalt tools. When we get a good drill in, we can do about fifteen to twenty poles on a charge, but the triggers have been horrible lately. It's so bad that we are having to send off brand new out of the box drills for warranty, due to faulty triggers.
That Milwaukee does 1,700 in/lbs while the DCF850 does 1,825 in/lbs. Goes to show that the marketing wank from companies doesn't always tell the whole story. Nothing like real world results.
I know you're a liar and are making a judgement based on a free sign Home Depot have me when the Milwaukee rep left. Truth is I don't care about brand. That's your issue
@@ToolswithSoAlzWeird to accept and then hang up a brand's old sales material (aka garbage) in your workspace if you don't have any kind of bias toward them.
You need to imagine some glasses brother, because he’s got a dewalt sticker on the back wall also lol… by your logic, wouldn’t that mean a sponsor of his videos would also be dewalt? 🤔
I bought my Milwaukee tools in 2008. They've been used hard in the HVAC business and look pretty battered, but still work fine. The drill chuck is showing some wear but the batteries and spare batteries have survived except for 2 out of the 6 and one of them is still OK for the light.
@caseyj.1332 I have a 1990 makita circular and reciprocating saw. A black and decker jigsaw from the 80s. All still going strong. They get used quite often.
All my coworkers had to get their Milwaukee’s in there, ridges replaced, and I used to giggle because mine just like Timex watch they just keep taking and taking
I accidentally bought that little Milwaukee, thinking it was the Fuel version. I then bought the fuel version, thinking it was better, but it's heavier and doesn't feel as comfortable. The Fuel IS a bit more powerful, but I actually like that little compact better. Nice tool!
Impact drivers are one of the few tools where Milwaukee is still in the lead….not sure how dewalt has industry leading impact wrenches but can’t seem to catch up with Milwaukee for impact drivers
The battery used makes a big difference. That Milwaukee one looks quite a bit bigger. I know for a fact that if you use one of the Dewalt flexvolt 60v/20v batteries the tool is going to perform better, especially the 20v tools. That XR battery is garbage in comparison.
@@ToolswithSoAlzdumb comment. Either what I said is true of false. Which is it? If you’re going to demonstrate, show how the tools perform with different batteries. I’m not a contractor and don’t have a “tool brand” I have tools from different brands because they all make some great, unique tools. I have the Milwaukee propress tool because it has the best ergonomics and I was able to get a great deal. I have a bunch of leaf blowers. The Dewalt 60V is the best.
Yeah, your tool brand lost. All you know is the name on the side, and even a bigger battery wouldn't help it overcome a 3-4" difference. We have tested it with bigger batteries, and it still loses. You don't want me to insult you like you did to me. Since you're going to whine, I have a solution for you. Buy both tools and find out for yourself. When the Milwaukee wins, pretend like it never happened, so you can carry on with your fantasy.
@@ToolswithSoAlz “We have tested it with bigger batteries, and it still loses.” Hah, sure you did. Why didn’t you post that then? Also, I insulted you? You mean me calling your original response dumb? You’re telling me I’m some brand loyalist. That’s a weak mentality. I couldn’t care less about any brand, like I said. I’ll use any tool. You’re just some guy posting half-assed vids on RUclips. Your ego is ballooning.
@axelwilner Karen, I did post it. Sorry if you're so weak minded that it hurts your little feelings. I see you're not a man. You don't know how to be a man. You just whine.
There’s probably about a 200$ price difference as well. So as a DIY at home impact works just fine for me. Dewalt has always been fine enough for me. Both are great though pending what your doing.
I own makita yes 30+ batteries would pick Milwaukee with out a doubt. Used it against my makita ordered from Japan which smokes dewalt gets smoked by the Milwaukee. I thought the video was going to be a dewalt fan boy but it was the truth from my own experience!
tell that to my 6 year old Milwaukee drill and impact set that's been kicking ass since day one , i am even using the same batteries that came with it !
Ma'am it's a 6X6, and that's the end of the knot. Andi, you make these excuses because you know absolutely nothing about tools, but the name on the side.
@ToolswithSoAlz and it seams you believe wood is two dimensions you can see the direction the knot is running a fair challenge would have been some heart free
As someone who's looking for his first power tool, no batteries or accesories at all, and wants to have the best tool (price doesn't matter), which one would you recommend?
To be fair, there’s a reason why we often don’t accept the results of just one test. You need at least two runs to set a land speed record. 3 reps would have definitively put this to rest.
As a master plumber, Milwaukee and their specialty tools has been the superior line for me. When I first started I was a dewalt guy, that changed when I bought my first Milwaukee bandsaw. Great video.
I’ve worked construction for over 15 years. Mostly in the refineries. 99 percent of the time it’s all Dewalt. Bandsaws, grinder, impact, sawzall, you name it. And we treat them power tools with no respect lol and they keep going. Milwaukee feels cheap.
Did carpentry for 5 years. (Unfortunately had to move on from that job.) We had a few different drills. Ryobi, maukita, milwakee, dewalt and rigid. The impact AND the regular drill from Milwaukee we used had the longest battery life and felt the lightest out of each. Granted we probably didnt have the lightest most compact version of each brand. And im not sure of the pricing of everything. I think ryobis might have been the cheapest. I'm not really a brand guy but Milwaukee has some good tools man.
A professional contractor really does not care about all-out speed. Pros look for the tool that drives the fastener completely, is durable, priced right, and the battery lasts decently. Speed is irrelevant, since it's usually just a matter of gear reduction. A case can be made for more reduction and less speed being the better tool.
Personally, my biggest concern is durability and battery quality/pricing. So that being said, I am mostly in Milwaukee fuel, but either DeWalt or Milwaukee is fine for me, not to mention Makita, but DeWalt and Milwaukee beat Makita on availability and special sales. The special sales is why I'm currently mostly Milwaukee, I love DeWalt just as much. Ridged too, but they change their stuff so much, I don't want to invest in their battery tools.
When it's a millisecond difference, i see your point. This however will add up after driving several screws Which means I'm not only losing time, but working much harder because someone has to stand there holding pressure on the trigger & the tool. I worked for years under someone with crap tools. Now that i have my own good equipment, my work is less frustrating and completed faster, which customers notice.
@@djaa7 I get it. But to say one tool is better after driving 1 screw is hilarious. Odds are that both will be about the same speed with an average deck screw...which is 90% of normal use.
As an electrician I care about speed. I work pretty fast so I like to get the job done quick and I will go with the fastest tool that gets that job done. An example is when I’m running pipe i have to drill the struts to the wood to hold the pipe. Being on a 12 ft ladder all day driving screws gets tiring so I’d rather have something that drills the screws in faster, it would be less fatigue.
Brother, I am doubtful about which combo to buy, one is the DeWalt Flexvolt Advantage 20V Max and the other is Milwaukee M18 4 generation, which of the two combos do you recommend I buy? They are for rough use
I got the Milwaukee one in a kit with a drill two batteries and a charger for $189.99 (home Depot going on right now in case anyone wants it) and it’s great.
I have mostly DeWalt. They've built many homes, garages and remodels. I also have the Milwakee Drill and Jigsaw. Can't say i like either better than DeWalt. But they're definitely up there in quakity. I also have Ryobi stuff...they're fine, but they miss details (light only gies on when pulling the trigger, not as easily changing blades, fine adjustments aren't there)...quality is definitely 'homeowner' vs pro. But if its what you can afford, great! I use all 3 brands. I lean towards DeWalt... but again, Mikwaukee is great too.
That Milwaukee is a throwaway when it breaks, individual parts not available and a lot of them have cheap bearings now so repeat test with same drills in a few years.
I have been using my 20 volt Porter Cable tools since 2012. I have the complete set and about 6 batteries. With a small farm and lots of projects on going, I will use them until they break. My only complaint is the circular saw, which is weak but I still use it. All the other tools work great. A buddy uses Milwaukee and they are really nice, but he said his older tools are better than the new Milwaukee. As for corded tools, I have all brands and use those when needed. But my PC are fine as long as I can get the batteries and they are on line. It’s all about the batteries. Most are built in the same Chinese factories.
Milwaukee keep going forward when in reverse sometimes, drives me nuts . I drove a 10" structural screw right through the width of a 2x4 & wall sheeting before it stopped. For delicate work i grab the Dewalt but the Milwaukee is the go to
How do you keep the down force veen between arms? Not a great test. Down force will be a large variable here. Need to setup hard mount jigs, and have them turn against each other until the gearbox tears out of one of them.
Pushing down does nothing. Actually Pushing down more hurts the performance of the tool. Ever seen a guy on the job make a drill to run his tools? It's kind of silly to think you should. All it tells me is that your tool brand lost and you're having a hard time dealing with it.
I'm only 28 and as a kid remember my dad getting an extension cord for the new electric drill he got. And it was so cutting edge and remarkable how fast it drove screws in. Here we are today with drills that are faster, smaller, lighter weight and cordless.
I’m a Milwaukee guy but for personal use I have dewalt because it’s cheaper the last dewalt impact I bought was 129 I have the luxury of being able to buy what I want with my company and my work truck is outfitted with all Milwaukee
As someone who works in plumbing construction I find Milwaukee powertools to just be the best. Pipe sheers, band saws, Sawzalls, holehog, vacuums, threaders, press tools, etc. all on the m18 platform. It’s pretty convenient. Bosch makes really nice reciprocating saws.
Interested to see if Milwaukee bring out a 20/48v line of tools.. considering they stay at 18v im glad im bought red years ago! They found what works and stick with it
Just got through watching a battle of battery powered drills ( two drills attached at the chuck bouncing around on the ground at full speed) and there were about 10 in all, the cheapest of all brands to the death and Milwaukee came out on top. They do make some really good products. Cant remember where DeWalt fell in the bracket.
Do a comparison with Rigid. They have the best warranty. Being middle of the road tool for professionals, I’d have to say it’s the best bag for your buck. I have Ryobi and Milwaukee, but now only buy Rigid.
A slower speed will produce more torque, enabling the battery to last longer, also it will drive a bigger screw in. Depends what you are looking for. Makita tools last a long time, and in the UK are cheaper
None of what you said is true. Well, maybe Miss Kita is cheaper. The rest is just garbage. The longer it takes a tool to do a job, the more that tool builds heat, the more friction is exerted on the internal components. We should all know by now that heat and friction destroy tools.
@@ToolswithSoAlz Rubish! Slower speed puts less strain so on the motor this = less heat, slower speed is kinder on the battery, meaning it won't have to work so hard, again this = less heat. Been using battery drills/impact drivers for years, if you over stress/strain them, they burn out quick. Example: try cycling up a hill in the wrong gear, or put too small a battery in a car and see how long it lasts.
I have been a Dewalt fan for the longest time and slowly switching to Milwaukee, I got the atomic and fuel 12v set and the M had better features like 3 selectable speed ranges and option for disabling hammer. Dewalt on the other hand had a better chuck that you can replace the bits with one hand.
The only reason for picking one or the other is what you already have batteries for.
Factual. Gotta pick one from the get go and then defend it the rest of your life😂
@thomasbrueske5016 sometimes it be like that 😂😂 I like some tools from several brands but I realllllyy dont want to have tons of different batteries
Battery is half the cost of some of these tools
Dewalt still has an impact made in the USA if you look for it and what is outsourced is more likely to be in North America, Everything but blades from Milwaukee is made in China. Part of the rebranding over the last decade was specifically to cover that up.
Don't care where it's made if it works and in our shop we have both one of our guys prefers red and the other yellow. I run all red from battery life to reliability Milwaukee is king and I used to own a power tool repair shop which my nephew now runs and it's a no brainier!
He who sells the first battery wins
They make adapters!
@@blakehaley1698 ew no
@@ripdragon1178your comment is an ick
@kovs-gg8wt So is yours but at least he can spell. 😂
@EncryptionV4 ... that was the point of my comment, to show how moronic his was (and the spelling was correct)
They’re both fantastic tools, the only reason you’d get one over the other is what you already have batteries for.
ok fence sitter
Exactly, just buy whatever you’ve already got batteries for
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@@klj2382 it's nice people are starting to be logical. Lol I'll never understand why people get so worked up over small stuff like this.
@@MooshyVR_gorrila you incinerated him.
Anybody who actually uses these for a living. Doesn’t really care. The best one, is the one closest.
100%
An 2nd best from cheapest if not the cheapest lol
Or the brand in which you have invested in. No one wants multiple platforms
Anything with a 100 percent Full replacement Guarantee that lasts a few years at the least. Some Music Equipment comes With lifetime replacement guarantee so why cant tools. Lmfao
@bonfireblu that's why I love harbor freight made in USA tools.. may be cheap but I'm paying 10% of snap on price tops for a lifetime tool that takes 10 minutes to replace just by walking into your nearest harbor freight
As a Milwaukee guy, I don’t think you can pick a brand based on an impact driver…there’s more to carpentry than driving long screws
If one drives quicker that means there is less wear and tear on the internal components
An impact driver is an impact driver for the most part. I care more about the saws, routers, nailers etc.
@@ToolswithSoAlz what a load of s*** if ever I heard it. 🤦♂️
@@lincolnbarlow4778 lol right?? I mean you can set yourself up with a path of logic to make that seem true, but without knowing how much power is being sent to the motor, heat is being generated/dispersed, force is put on it the drive components to come to a sudden stop, etc. there is no bases to make such a claim!
@@lincolnbarlow4778facts
Dewalt lost the crown to Milwaukee when Stanley took over (Dewalt).
Black and decker owns Both stanley and Dewalt- and they are now full woke DEI
@@Jessedog11 not sure how sticking a black woman on the board really changes any of their subsidiary brands but ok
@@PJ-qx5yt who said a Black women? woke means many things- racist much?
what are you talking about? Dewalt only ever made Radial arm saws. The dewalt line of tools started in early 90’s was and always been a rebranding of B&D industrial line, and swiss made Elu tools. All top of the line tools. Black and decker bought the rights to dewalt in 1960. sold the rights of radial arm saw in 1989. Dewalt has always been a rebranding excercise. And it was B&D who took over stanley. and porter cable. they are now the largest tool company in the world
I asked my friend why he uses DeWalt.. he says no one steels them and friends won't borrow them 🤣
I've acquired my share of batteries over the years and I've learned if someone leaves a DeWalt battery behind it was for a reason 😂😂
...and then everyone clapped
🤡
@@perseusbeatkrakentell us how you're the job site thief again
@@perseusbeatkraken tell that to the guy/guys who drilled out my jobox lock and took every DeWalt tool I had, got me for about $2200 worth of tools
That Milwaukee drill isn’t even FUEL LMAO
@@brycecourtneymusicit's not brushless.
@@brycecourtneymusicI mean come on guys time to admit it . I was a dewalt guy for years and they have dropped the ball . I’ve basically switched to all Milwaukee at this point. Dealt used to have the best hammer/drill so I didn’t care that maybe their impact was a little behind or that the sawzall are absolute dog shit .. but at this point they don’t have a better drill then Milwaukee. Dewalt is done for if you ask me .
@@RealJuanCastanedait actually does say brushless on it
@@brycecourtneymusichis point is he's a fan boy
@@terdferguson1736bruh the newest dewalt impact dooks milwaukee. Milwaukee needed dewalts help💯✌️
All my other tools are yellow so you can bet I'm not going to throw a random red in there.
All my hand tools are pink so you can bet I'm not going to throw a random black one in there 💅💅💅
@@princetchalla2441you're not very bright are you?
Unfortunately, I got a lot of Ryobi. Got some red, blue, yellow, and orange (Ridged)
I'm sick and tired of buying overpriced batteries, I'm using corded tools most of the time.
In a workshop wired tools are best almost all the time.
Problem people have is that their power outlets positions are horrible.
Make a new power outlets to your workbench AND put few on your ceiling at the arm height.
At any given time you can just plug the needed too cord on outlet just next to you and be done.
You usually need 3-4 plugs for each position so you can have 2-3 tools at the same time available to be used.
And for workshop tools, the air tools are just way nicer to use by their low noise utilization. As long you have compressor in another room...
Amen to that. They give you the tool for free because they have to.
Ceiling mounted cord reels ftw
@@paristo Or you can just use cordless tools and not worry about any of that
@@4wheelliving132 you worry far less with corded tools than with cordless.
Even when you have 2:1 ratio of batteries vs tools, you end up playing around with batteries, charging them, waiting, swapping... Just playing around all the time with them. You dont put lot of chargers to always have them charged as some are always in your machine and now you are again walking across rooms to get the battery or place it there.
Corded is just "pick tool, plug in and use, after day unplug it and return to shelf". There really is no thinking.
The opposite goes when you need to go remote. But then again corded ones win in power. You can have the small gasoline generator for full day work time in forest or other off-site, or battery pack and you get example full 1800-2500W power from all saws, table saws, drills etc. As when you are working example with 45x600 mm drill bits on thick lumber etc, you don't use battery powered tools there.
Battery powered tools have their places and all, but not so great as corded tools in dedicated workplace.
And when you have a dedicated workstation for specific work, it is idiotic to dedicate a cordless tool on that. It is as smart as using a battery powered table saw.... Sorry, but dedicated table saw is the way to go in workshop. Some don't have change to dedicate space for table saw, but they still benefit from corded power vs battery powered one.
The world is crazy about battery powered tools. And used way too many for tasks that are better with some other power methods.
Every tool has their purpose and all. Like a tiny battery powered screwdriver that fits on your palm is great when you are assembling cabinet or doing normal house repairs or even building a deck, as it is so tiny. Any normal large drill is big, cumbersome, just not good tool for all cases.
And when you have remote workstation ready to go, it is nice to have dedicated tools for it, charged and all ready to be rolled out, picked to car and go... Be able work that 1-2 hours before recharging. No cords or fuel or anything.
I love the brand loyalty folks. Its always been simple for me. Whichever I have the most batteries for, I kept buying. To me, the biggest advantage a tool had was a hand full of batteries that fit it from the rest of the tools I wasn't using.
Battery doesnt get the job done. stop trying to please everyone because you are scared to admit you bought the wrong color
When deciding new power tools for my new job, I called around a few tool shops and asked which brand had the least warranty returns. Milwaukee was the least returned followed by Makita.
There were quite a few 15 year old team red drills and drivers at my last job in a fab shop that were still going strong.
yeah 😂 i have seen more dewalts break then i cak remember the battery comes loose or wont hold a charge meanwhile i use my red tools to.beat things into working again 😂 like i couldnt get my door to unlock so i just used my milwaukee hammer till Chinese lock gave up
@ProPotato that's a v good criteria to select tools on. I'll have t use that in future. Thx
Frequency is not indicative of anything. If 100 people return DeWalts and only 10 returned Milwaukee, but 10,000 bought DeWalts and only 100 bought a Milwaukee, the Milwaukees are returned at a greater rate. 10% of Milwaukees are returned vs 1% of DeWalts in this example.
@serious.business I suppose this is correct. However 90% of tradies on sites I work on run Milwaukee, DeWalt isn't overly common and Makita are maybe sometimes seen on home building sites. I work in food industry manufacturing & Milwaukee is the standard gear for pretty much everyone
When i started using Milwaukee, they were only available at professional supply houses. Instead of comparing new stuff,compare some old stuff and Milwaukee wont have ay competition
I wanted the Milwaukee, they were out of stock when I went to buy it. I purchased the Dewalt and have been happy with it.
You won. The DeWalt will out last the Milwaukee
@@georgiafan775 But just won't out perform it huh? 😂
@@Nomad137-FJC I've used them all. I stuck with DeWalt because I've had great success with the batteries and tools lasting years of daily hard use.
I like Milwaukee a lot, but there's absolutely no reason to switch everything over.
My only non DeWalt tool is a Bosch Bulldog Max SDS Hammerdrill.
I've been using the Bulldig line so many years that I stick with a great brand in those drills.
@@georgiafan775 not what i have seen there battery gets loose then they wont work
I burned up too many Milwaukee to buy any more I went to Bosch and it’s lasted way longer still going I’m an electrician
Bosch is a quality tool
Bosch doesn't win performance video races, but it wins in the professional long run...
I burned two devalt drill in six month. Good bye devalt.
I’ve been using the same Bosch batteries for about 8 years. Still working along with my drill, impact, orbital saw and jigsaw. I purchased my brother a Milwaukee fuel impact set for his birthday and it’s definitely more powerful than my Bosch but I doubt the batteries will last as long.
I personally use Milwaukee but dewalt is right up there with it, along with makita. They’re tools, if they make your job easier, they’re doing their job.
I'm a Milwaukee guy, but I have DeWalt, Makita, Ryobi, Craftsman and Hercules cordless tools in my shop. Anyone who has only one tool type is either a) sponsored, b) very specialized, or c) new to this. I even have a DeWalt Murdermatic 790 radial arm saw in my shop :)
RAS is my favorite tool ever
I get it. Use what gets the job done even if it’s different from what used to do the job
If you have all one brand, then you can have a ton of batteries that work in each tool . You have to charge 5 different brand of batteries
You forgot d) doesn't want to go through the expense of buying multiple of tools with multiple varieties of batteries. It's simply not financially smart.
It's one thing to get corded tools, because there isn't that extra expense of batteries. Being in the trades it sure gets bad when power isn't available for plugging in. Now a generator has to be purchased to run corded tools. So pros and cons everywhere.
I only buy Milwaukee M18. Same impact for teen years of heavy construction use. It's been fantastic.
DeWalt is owned by Stanley Black and Decker 🤮
Personally, all I use is Milwaukee and Makita.
Makita gang here
I committed to Makita years ago, but if I had to start over I would go with Milwaukee. I just think they are better throughout their entire line. Plus I'm ticked that HD committed to Makita years ago, and now they don't carry crap for Makita. My HD doesn't even carry a single makita miter saw. I mostly end up ordering on line now, but it sucks not being able to go into the store and seeing/touching most of their line.
You know, I love watching power tool showdowns just as much as the next guy. But it is frustrating sometimes how the raw strength of a tool is so often deemed as its most important attribute - or even worse, the only important attribute.
I'm something of a jack of all trades, master of none, but more than anything I would consider myself a low voltage technician. In my line of work, I find the granularity of the trigger pressure to be one of the most important factors for an impact, and for that reason, I am personally in the Makita gang - even though I KNOW they're not the most powerful or the fastest.
There are many aspects of my job where I should PROBABLY be using a screwdriver instead, but I feel like I could perform surgery with my Makita impact, so I reach for that nine times out of ten. If I were a framer, or a drywaller, or a roofer, I might feel differently.
I will say however, that if I were a full-time electrician or plumber, I'd probably be very drawn to Milwaukee just because they happen to have some SICK ass specialty tools that cater to those two professions.
@@donaldholden2090 Yeah it's like the towing capacity of trucks for people that never need to tow anything close it. . . Dewalt, Milwaukee etc all have impact guns for steel connections. . . It's not impressive, it's just a selling point for people who don't know better, clever marketing . . .
I had to redo some outlets put into metal studs, done with a Milwaukee fuel impact, and stripped the fuck out of it. When the power behind the tool is exceeds the material being used it's pointless. . . In fact, I drill on the slowest setting with my Dewalt drill whenever going into steel studs because I am much less likely to drop the screws that way. . .
Gang gang@@jangolub8240
I just upgraded to the Milwaukee fuel line from my old makita set and when I first ran the impact I was blown away by the power. Now I'm going to get the 1/2 inch impact for mechanic tasks
You'll LOVE it. I do.
You went from old Makita to brand new Milwaukee and noticed an improvement? Yes, water is wet and the sky is blue.
The fuel medium power 1/2” impact is incredible. I do structural ironwork and it will torque and un-torque 3/4 structural bolts all day which use a 1&1/4” socket. Phenomenal tool.
Be careful with high torque impact. Those sucker are know to bust off wheel studs while putting lug nuts back on. It's also know to bust nuts loose up to 2200 ft lbs with a forge battery. That's not over exaggerating either.
@@RBOHANNON thats why you use a torque wrench on fasteners. 3-5 ugga duggas isnt very accurate. Lol.
It's the glove.. I BLAME THE GLOOOVE 😭🤣
You and about 100 other people
@ToolswithSoAlz 🤣 too funny! ... I find brand loyalty to be an interesting phenomenon. Everyone has this desire to believe whatever crap they own must be the best.
It's really just a byproduct of a spoiled society. Men of the past didn't care this much what badge was painted on the side of their tools, as long as they worked.
Have to say as a professional electrical contractor ive had a lot of different brands over the years. I ended up with Milwaukee and have changed all my battery tools to Milwaukee, not because of speed but just the feel and the power. At the end of the day it's what feels good and your budget.
The old Milwaukee was made in Germany and had the best triggers in the industry hands down. Milwaukee then moved ALL of its manufacturing to China and the triggers are awful.
For wood working, I;m sticking to Dewalt. They typically have the best quick change and I can get parts at Lowes and HomeDepot. So I have nothing but Dewalt batteries.
For working on cars, I use the Milwaukee 12V stuff - powerful enough once I break the bolts and fast and compact (can't fit an 18 or '20'V battery. Milwaukee also seems to have more metal working tools. Could be wrong on that...
For profesionals, their easy warranty returns are a must-have! I'm not a pro though, so I prefer Ryobi.
I prefer Milwaukee but Dewalt is really close and I would take it just the same. They’re both really good. I am a professional electrician. Master electrician. I use these tools every single day
I have the dewalt, but I bought it because of the price point and it’s ability to squeeze in tight spaces. The Milwaukee is small but still bigger than the dewalt, so I not surprised about the performance difference. If I wanted to hog down on a lag I’d just grab a 1/2 inch impact and wreck both of them. Milwaukee is nice but I’ve been pretty well satisfied with dewalt pricing/performance so until they start making complete shit I’ll probably stick with them
Dewalt prices are not much better than Milwaukee. And dewalt lacks power. If you’re a pro, dewalt is low quality. If you’re not trying to spend, go for rigid. Comparable power as dewalt much less money
You forgot the part about Dewalt be American made. I like to employ my neighbors instead of people that want me dead.
@@Searchng man I've been to home depot... If the dewalt is 200 with battery and the Milwaukee is 300 with battery, im going with dewalt. I don't need the extra 2 seconds that badly. Also, I notice a lot of contractors use dewalt when the company is buying Dewalt tools, where as self employed buy Milwaukee.
@thegreatgali1739 ummm...the Dewalt is $149, the Milwaukee is $149.
@@ToolswithSoAlz And as you have said in other comments, thats a new dewalt and an older/cheaper milwaukee, right?
For anybody new to tools my best advice is to look at the brands full list of what they sell of other tools and packout options. All drills/impacts still get the job done pretty much but brand matching really matters due to batteries cause them bitches ain’t cheap
Your vid just came up after I watched the Torque Test Channel's vid on the $55, $60, and $80 Gen 2 HyperTough impact SETS (tool, batt, charger) at Wally World. They are killin' it!
They are certainly offering a good value
interesting. wonder if the results would differ if the dewalt fastener wasn't going through a knot
Oh brother
Looks like it was
its knot!!! 😉
I mean... He's right. If you look at the piece of wood in the part where he says to look at the holes, you can clearly see the knot locations. The spot of the screw for the DeWalt driver is definitely in line with that knot. It's just zoomed in during the test, presumedly to hide that
I agree, been splitting knotted wood all afternoon with the kiddos that shit for sure had an effect….i own dewalt but think Milwaukee is better…would love to see same test again
Been an absolute Dewalt brand Buyer for decades since the majority of my work is in the carpentry trades. I did over 4 yr work contracts in the Bahamas on a couple of Islands after Hurricane Dorian. my clients supplied my crew w/ the entire line of high end $$$ comercial and industrial grade Milwaukee tools majority of cordless tools. Bottom line? They absolutely sucked and didnt last more than 3 months . I was lucky to get 2 months out of their 18v batteries. The power tools went to shit in the salt air in no time. We went thru over $50k of cordless Milwaukee crap. I ended up bringing my own Dewalt set up cordless tools , table saws , slide compound miter saws, ect... I brought 1/2 of them back in 2021 and still using this same Dewalt tools. The other 1/2 is still back in the Bahamas which I still have clients and jobs still contracted . MILWAUKEE tools suck in salt air. Let that be a warning
Because driver speed doesn't mean anything for durability
Those were all brushed tools and pre lithium though.
No, you are incorrect in that statement. Milwaukee tools suck for the carpentry trades Period!! That is a absolute obvious fact
Can't go wrong with either. I've always had Milwaukee because that's what I have batteries for.
Thanks for the video, i want that MILWUAKEE POWER TOOLS here in the PHILIPPINES🇵🇭
After growing up with my dads old Milwaukee tools and seeing the insides these days through channels like AvE, I just can't justify spending the extra $ for Milwaukee. The same internals with a couple different parts most of the time.
Plus dewalt makes the best consumer impacts on the market right now, and Makita makes a nice grinder.
Mmm...Old Milwaukee. Sounds great right about now.
@@0037kevin I used my dads old hole-hog a couple years ago. All metal, plugged in, and chewed a 4 inch hole right through the metal flashing and sill beams on the side of the house for a drier vent.
I was just making a reference to the beer: Old Milwaukee. But, I always assumed that Milwakee brand was the cheaper of the 2, no?
@@0037kevin between old Milwaukee and coors, or Milwaukee and dewalt? Hahaha
I have Dewalt, Mikita, and Milwaukee tools, they have pros and cons all. Honestly I use my Mikitas most because of the charging speeds, they may be slightly underpowered but I rarely drive 10" Riser lags. I will say I've had trigger failures on two of my Milwaukee tools, the skilll saw and a hammer drill. Upside is we have competition and the B op tools are getting better all the time.
Good job. Maybe next time do not screw into wood knot for fair comparison.
Awe jer tool brand lost and now she's having a mental breakdown. Sorry Honey but it didn't do any better in the rematch either. In that one we put Milwaukee through the center of a knot and it still won.
@@ToolswithSoAlz 1. Im not arguing DeWalt is better. Milwaukee is probably better. Milwaukee has 3500rpm and 4300irm and 225Nm vs DeWalt has 3250rpm and 3800irm and 210Nm but is cheaper. If i found right specs. Yes on paper it looks sligthly powerfull. So i will expect similar difference in real life performance. But that was not point of my comment. If you think it was then go read it again.In this case it looks like you are Milwaukee fan boy and intentionallyworsen conditions for DeWalt to make your favorite brand looks better. Which I hope is not true.2. Realy? Can you share proof of Milwaukee screwing faster into knot? I would like to see how much it is better.
For me the dewalt was the best at the time so now I have all the batteries for them🙂
@jerrodstaviski3711 Dewalt hasn't managed to do it yet no matter how many new impacts they come out with
The mid torque dewalt is 800 breakaway the Milwaukee is 650 so aren't we already there?
Because this is the compact Milwaukee and not a compact Dewalt.
Get a drill and save your ears. For large lag bolts use a high torque impact driver.
With that high torque drill of yours, you have no chance to save your limbs! Impact driver breaks the torque for you and does the trick saving hands and arms.
@@mishkaulitkin9476 That's why most drills have kickback feature.
Most people also have a small and light drill with 60-90 Nm torque they use for most things that are not a problem to hold back.
The professionals have a second drill with 100+Nm with better handles etc. they can use for the larger stuff
Welllll, it's as u saiiid, it iiiiis the best ""'"dewalt""" impact on the market, NOT THEEEE BEST IMPACT IMPACT ON THE MARKET. Peculiar annnd good of you 2 word it like that, i caught it.
As my Dewalts broke I replaced them with Milwaukee. All the shop guys had em when I rolled my toolbox in… I know why now 😂
Complete opposite here, i hate replacing the tools from millwaukee because they keep breaking. By all means dont biy the circle saw, trigger problems with the last 4 of them. I own most every brand 18v btw.
@@J2Shay odd.. I’ve beat the snot out of my Milwaukee and there great. Dewalt had the board in the trigger that always kept going bad for me. Warrantied 3 of them. Atomic brushless 3/8 was the tool and my batteries after 2 years screws started falling out of the bottom there’s 4 small screws.
@@justinmann3617just the opposite here I've seen more Milwaukee Tools breakdown on the job than DeWalt
@justinmann3617 thanks for the heads up on the dewalt. Was thinking of converting to their newer higher end 18v tools. Only 18v that are lasting for me are the flex brand from lowes, the tools are durrable but the batteries leak and dont last. Theres issues with every combo kit i guess.....
Owned DEWALT for 20 years never had an issue!
Dewalt any day of the week. That half inch distance is a lifesaver in attics
Was it really surprising? Milwaukee is huge in the automotive and collision industry, very tough and strong in my opinion
Impacts for woodwork, classic case of the wrong tool for the wrong job.
This would be more landscaping and timber frame for which I think it would be exactly what those guys use. But for furniture and fine wood work a twist drill might be a better choice yeah. There are the lighter settings
And why is that ?
Clearly a true craftsman working on the finest project would pre-drill a pilot hole and then run that foot long lag bolt in by hand. 🤣
The M18 has an additional 1100 IPM (4900 vs 3800) and 350 RPM (3600 vs 3250), but slightly less torque (1700 vs 1825). Max torque shouldn't be much of a factor on a task like this. While specs aren't 100% definitive, this result really shouldn't surprise anyone. The DCF840 may be a slightly better match, it's a bit closer with 4200 IPM. But in tests like this, IPM and speed tends to beat torque.
@chuckgrumble5440 apparently it's a weak minded fangirl butt hurt because her tool brand lost
@@chuckgrumble5440 Yeh the extra torque was maybe a little bit of a factor in this particular test with that knot.
@@ToolswithSoAlz even when the 850 was new it was still a tad underpowered compared to the 845. its the best dewalt because its the most compact impact in the world, until just recently when the dewalt 860 2500 in lbs and 870 oil impact were released. that milwaukee is impressive!
@mainsource8030 Oh brother, why do you children make me correct you? The 845 came out a year after both the 850 and you. Lol
Milwaukee triggers are u reliable and the battery connection gets flogged out with only small plastic pointed bits holding it tight, after a few months use they get loose and you need to hold the battery on to keep the connection to tool.
Ok
I have a whole set of Ryobi tools that have done me well for the last 2.5 years and recently started getting my Milwaukee set.
So don't worry about the knot that the dewalt is going threw. I hate people
Ma'am it didn't go through a knot but thanks for crying
Look at the video one on top and one on the side, the wood grains are all screwed up. F FOR THE VIDEO
@@ericclark3885 I think he thinks a knot is a surface feature
Yeah looks like he went through the intersection of those spike knots , could definitely have slowed it down
Keep coping dewault fanpig, there was no knot there and its pathetic how you always have to make an excuse for your garbage brand
Milwaukee is always going to outperform dewalt, but dewalt is still a good brand, with cheaper cost to entry. Cost-to-performance, I go for dewalt.
Milwaukee makes great tools, and they're not afraid to charge you for them. Dewalt makes almost as good tools, for far less.
Milwaukee is that much more, actually. now, Snap-on makes terrible power tools and charges absurd amount of money
Nothing defeats flexvolt
You put way more pressure on the milwaukee than the dewalt
He did that’s why he had the glove so you couldn’t see he wasn’t using any pressure like he was with the other
you must not have seen that pushing down doesn't help. and I'm not trolling. pushing down only puts more strain on the motor.
Ladies, I know how a screw works and you don't.
Exactly
I'm a lineman and the company buys Dewalt tools. When we get a good drill in, we can do about fifteen to twenty poles on a charge, but the triggers have been horrible lately. It's so bad that we are having to send off brand new out of the box drills for warranty, due to faulty triggers.
I feel your pain
The benefit is I can find my Dewalt in low light.
Skill issue
That Milwaukee does 1,700 in/lbs while the DCF850 does 1,825 in/lbs. Goes to show that the marketing wank from companies doesn't always tell the whole story. Nothing like real world results.
Yeh, torque and speed are not the sane
@vinceking7878 with impacts, speed is the biggest factor when it comes to available torque.
I enjoy your content so much I watch your videos before I buy any two to make sure you did a review on it keep it up 👍
Thanks, will do!
as a guy who used dewault for 10 years and recently switched to fuel milwaukee... trust me, the milwaukee is much better in every aspect
And NOT owned by Stanley Black and Decker
I imagine you might be biased considering a sponsor of your videos appears to be Milwaukee!
I know you're a liar and are making a judgement based on a free sign Home Depot have me when the Milwaukee rep left. Truth is I don't care about brand. That's your issue
Dude he put the DeWalt screw in a knot so don't listen to his bulls**t it's obviously completely an unfair test
No need to get testy. It was a reasonable comment based on something in plain view. First one to lose their cool, and all.....
@@ToolswithSoAlzWeird to accept and then hang up a brand's old sales material (aka garbage) in your workspace if you don't have any kind of bias toward them.
You need to imagine some glasses brother, because he’s got a dewalt sticker on the back wall also lol… by your logic, wouldn’t that mean a sponsor of his videos would also be dewalt? 🤔
I bought my Milwaukee tools in 2008. They've been used hard in the HVAC business and look pretty battered, but still work fine. The drill chuck is showing some wear but the batteries and spare batteries have survived except for 2 out of the 6 and one of them is still OK for the light.
@caseyj.1332 I have a 1990 makita circular and reciprocating saw. A black and decker jigsaw from the 80s. All still going strong. They get used quite often.
All my coworkers had to get their Milwaukee’s in there, ridges replaced, and I used to giggle because mine just like Timex watch they just keep taking and taking
I use a drill driver for long screws anyway
I accidentally bought that little Milwaukee, thinking it was the Fuel version. I then bought the fuel version, thinking it was better, but it's heavier and doesn't feel as comfortable. The Fuel IS a bit more powerful, but I actually like that little compact better. Nice tool!
Impact drivers are one of the few tools where Milwaukee is still in the lead….not sure how dewalt has industry leading impact wrenches but can’t seem to catch up with Milwaukee for impact drivers
Bruh I had that shirt in 2003 🔥😂
Everyone did. If you lived in the suburbs, they were mailed to you regularly
The battery used makes a big difference. That Milwaukee one looks quite a bit bigger.
I know for a fact that if you use one of the Dewalt flexvolt 60v/20v batteries the tool is going to perform better, especially the 20v tools.
That XR battery is garbage in comparison.
Sorry your tool brand lost and it is causing you to make excuses
@@ToolswithSoAlzdumb comment. Either what I said is true of false. Which is it? If you’re going to demonstrate, show how the tools perform with different batteries.
I’m not a contractor and don’t have a “tool brand” I have tools from different brands because they all make some great, unique tools.
I have the Milwaukee propress tool because it has the best ergonomics and I was able to get a great deal. I have a bunch of leaf blowers. The Dewalt 60V is the best.
Yeah, your tool brand lost. All you know is the name on the side, and even a bigger battery wouldn't help it overcome a 3-4" difference. We have tested it with bigger batteries, and it still loses. You don't want me to insult you like you did to me. Since you're going to whine, I have a solution for you. Buy both tools and find out for yourself. When the Milwaukee wins, pretend like it never happened, so you can carry on with your fantasy.
@@ToolswithSoAlz
“We have tested it with bigger batteries, and it still loses.”
Hah, sure you did. Why didn’t you post that then?
Also, I insulted you? You mean me calling your original response dumb? You’re telling me I’m some brand loyalist. That’s a weak mentality. I couldn’t care less about any brand, like I said. I’ll use any tool.
You’re just some guy posting half-assed vids on RUclips. Your ego is ballooning.
@axelwilner Karen, I did post it. Sorry if you're so weak minded that it hurts your little feelings. I see you're not a man. You don't know how to be a man. You just whine.
Anyone notice the dewalt was going through a knot, and the milwaulke was not.
Lol! Excuses are fun to make
There was no know, your dewault brand just sucks
dewalt is geiy
There’s probably about a 200$ price difference as well. So as a DIY at home impact works just fine for me. Dewalt has always been fine enough for me. Both are great though pending what your doing.
I own makita yes 30+ batteries would pick Milwaukee with out a doubt. Used it against my makita ordered from Japan which smokes dewalt gets smoked by the Milwaukee. I thought the video was going to be a dewalt fan boy but it was the truth from my own experience!
Milwaukee hits harder but also rattles itself apart sooner
Ok
tell that to my 6 year old Milwaukee drill and impact set that's been kicking ass since day one , i am even using the same batteries that came with it !
the dewalt was drilling through a knot if you notice
Because you believe wood is two-dimensional
Ma'am it's a 6X6, and that's the end of the knot. Andi, you make these excuses because you know absolutely nothing about tools, but the name on the side.
@ToolswithSoAlz if your going to do do it fair and right I have both at my disposal and thank you madam
@ToolswithSoAlz and it seams you believe wood is two dimensions you can see the direction the knot is running a fair challenge would have been some heart free
@@82wethepeopleI see a lot of videos of guys that hate dewalt for whatever reason and they do these goofy videos 🙄. But both brands are great
As someone who's looking for his first power tool, no batteries or accesories at all, and wants to have the best tool (price doesn't matter), which one would you recommend?
Ridgid represents the best value in the tool world today bar none
@ToolswithSoAlz will it be as reliable/durable as the Milwaukee or DeWalt? Similar specs?
Depends on what you're doing with them. Mine last forever, but my Dewalt's don't.
@@ToolswithSoAlz Mostly for motorcycle/car mechanic stuff. Lol
@cesarmendoza5 you'll be fine with Ridgid
Dewalt runs at the same speed as the Milwaukee till it hits that knot.
Excuses are fun to make when you can't handle what you saw
To be fair, there’s a reason why we often don’t accept the results of just one test. You need at least two runs to set a land speed record. 3 reps would have definitively put this to rest.
@benhart16 Ma'am we test these live and usually in front of 20,000 or more people. The results don't change
@matthewprather189 Ma'am you're letting your arrogance expose your ignorance and ignorance is all you have
@matthewprather189 Ma'am you remind me of a character in the Wizard of Oz. He too didn't have a brain.
As a guy who uses tools from both companies Milwaukee and Dewalt , i can say that Dewalt and Milwaukee are the best companies in the world .
As a master plumber, Milwaukee and their specialty tools has been the superior line for me. When I first started I was a dewalt guy, that changed when I bought my first Milwaukee bandsaw. Great video.
Now is he left or right handed because your main hand is pushing more pressure
Um...pushing down does nothing.
@@ToolswithSoAlz huh pressure helps
No, I have already proven it
Pressure would help if he was using bits prone to cam out, otherwise it just causes extra friction driving the threads against what you just cut
I’ve worked construction for over 15 years. Mostly in the refineries. 99 percent of the time it’s all Dewalt. Bandsaws, grinder, impact, sawzall, you name it. And we treat them power tools with no respect lol and they keep going. Milwaukee feels cheap.
Did carpentry for 5 years. (Unfortunately had to move on from that job.) We had a few different drills. Ryobi, maukita, milwakee, dewalt and rigid. The impact AND the regular drill from Milwaukee we used had the longest battery life and felt the lightest out of each. Granted we probably didnt have the lightest most compact version of each brand. And im not sure of the pricing of everything. I think ryobis might have been the cheapest. I'm not really a brand guy but Milwaukee has some good tools man.
I love how emotional and dramatic Milwaukee fanboys get
A professional contractor really does not care about all-out speed. Pros look for the tool that drives the fastener completely, is durable, priced right, and the battery lasts decently.
Speed is irrelevant, since it's usually just a matter of gear reduction. A case can be made for more reduction and less speed being the better tool.
A professional knows time is money. A Faux-fessional knows excuses are fun to make
Personally, my biggest concern is durability and battery quality/pricing. So that being said, I am mostly in Milwaukee fuel, but either DeWalt or Milwaukee is fine for me, not to mention Makita, but DeWalt and Milwaukee beat Makita on availability and special sales. The special sales is why I'm currently mostly Milwaukee, I love DeWalt just as much. Ridged too, but they change their stuff so much, I don't want to invest in their battery tools.
When it's a millisecond difference, i see your point. This however will add up after driving several screws
Which means I'm not only losing time, but working much harder because someone has to stand there holding pressure on the trigger & the tool.
I worked for years under someone with crap tools. Now that i have my own good equipment, my work is less frustrating and completed faster, which customers notice.
@@djaa7 I get it. But to say one tool is better after driving 1 screw is hilarious. Odds are that both will be about the same speed with an average deck screw...which is 90% of normal use.
As an electrician I care about speed. I work pretty fast so I like to get the job done quick and I will go with the fastest tool that gets that job done. An example is when I’m running pipe i have to drill the struts to the wood to hold the pipe. Being on a 12 ft ladder all day driving screws gets tiring so I’d rather have something that drills the screws in faster, it would be less fatigue.
Brother, I am doubtful about which combo to buy, one is the DeWalt Flexvolt Advantage 20V Max and the other is Milwaukee M18 4 generation, which of the two combos do you recommend I buy? They are for rough use
Milwaukee because the impact is a lit better and the hammer drill is a lot lighter and more powerful
@@ToolswithSoAlz Thank you very much brother
I own that Milwaukee I got it on a deal for 75 bucks with a battery charger and a bag 👍🇺🇲🇺🇲
Awesome
I got the Milwaukee one in a kit with a drill two batteries and a charger for $189.99 (home
Depot going on right now in case anyone wants it) and it’s great.
Awesome
I have to say I believe that Milwaukee makes the superior tool. I use Milwaukee in automotive applications and I love the M18 and M12 platforms.
It is the best DEWALT driver...
The best, of all, however, is Milwaukee😮!
I have mostly DeWalt. They've built many homes, garages and remodels. I also have the Milwakee Drill and Jigsaw. Can't say i like either better than DeWalt. But they're definitely up there in quakity. I also have Ryobi stuff...they're fine, but they miss details (light only gies on when pulling the trigger, not as easily changing blades, fine adjustments aren't there)...quality is definitely 'homeowner' vs pro. But if its what you can afford, great! I use all 3 brands. I lean towards DeWalt... but again, Mikwaukee is great too.
That Milwaukee is a throwaway when it breaks, individual parts not available and a lot of them have cheap bearings now so repeat test with same drills in a few years.
Excuses are fun to make when your tool brand loses
@@ToolswithSoAlz The loss is when the tool dies and it can't be fixed, colors don't matter except in the pile of broken tools that go to the dump.
If that's the lie you need to tell yourself
The air inflator is pretty awesome too.
I have been using my 20 volt Porter Cable tools since 2012. I have the complete set and about 6 batteries. With a small farm and lots of projects on going, I will use them until they break. My only complaint is the circular saw, which is weak but I still use it. All the other tools work great. A buddy uses Milwaukee and they are really nice, but he said his older tools are better than the new Milwaukee. As for corded tools, I have all brands and use those when needed. But my PC are fine as long as I can get the batteries and they are on line. It’s all about the batteries. Most are built in the same Chinese factories.
I have both & both are awesome, the Milwaukee does have a better feeling hand grip to me.
Would you be able to Try this exact setup with 5 amp dewalt power stack & Milwaukee 5.0 High Output. Id be interested to see
Ok
Milwaukee keep going forward when in reverse sometimes, drives me nuts . I drove a 10" structural screw right through the width of a 2x4 & wall sheeting before it stopped. For delicate work i grab the Dewalt but the Milwaukee is the go to
How do you keep the down force veen between arms? Not a great test. Down force will be a large variable here. Need to setup hard mount jigs, and have them turn against each other until the gearbox tears out of one of them.
Pushing down does nothing. Actually Pushing down more hurts the performance of the tool. Ever seen a guy on the job make a drill to run his tools? It's kind of silly to think you should. All it tells me is that your tool brand lost and you're having a hard time dealing with it.
dewalt always had higher advertised rating then milwaukee. but milwaukee has always been more true to its advertising
I'm only 28 and as a kid remember my dad getting an extension cord for the new electric drill he got. And it was so cutting edge and remarkable how fast it drove screws in. Here we are today with drills that are faster, smaller, lighter weight and cordless.
It's amazing
I don't really look at speed when I'm buying something like that. What do I have batteries for, what is the consumer opinion, how durable is the tool.
Ok
If you throw a flexvolt battery on the dewalt it will beat the milwaukee so there's no real comparison.
Lmfao! You know absolutely nothing about tools but the name on the side
Good content! You should do one with drills and long auger bits! I know what I've seen in the past but I'm curious if it's still like that now.
Great suggestion!
I’m a Milwaukee guy but for personal use I have dewalt because it’s cheaper the last dewalt impact I bought was 129 I have the luxury of being able to buy what I want with my company and my work truck is outfitted with all Milwaukee
As someone who works in plumbing construction I find Milwaukee powertools to just be the best. Pipe sheers, band saws,
Sawzalls, holehog, vacuums, threaders, press tools, etc. all on the m18 platform. It’s pretty convenient. Bosch makes really nice reciprocating saws.
Well, at least the DeWalt is more conpact... Black 'n Yellow forever!!!
I never said it was bad
Interested to see if Milwaukee bring out a 20/48v line of tools.. considering they stay at 18v im glad im bought red years ago! They found what works and stick with it
Just got through watching a battle of battery powered drills ( two drills attached at the chuck bouncing around on the ground at full speed) and there were about 10 in all, the cheapest of all brands to the death and Milwaukee came out on top. They do make some really good products. Cant remember where DeWalt fell in the bracket.
Do a comparison with Rigid. They have the best warranty. Being middle of the road tool for professionals, I’d have to say it’s the best bag for your buck. I have Ryobi and Milwaukee, but now only buy Rigid.
I will
A slower speed will produce more torque, enabling the battery to last longer, also it will drive a bigger screw in. Depends what you are looking for. Makita tools last a long time, and in the UK are cheaper
None of what you said is true. Well, maybe Miss Kita is cheaper. The rest is just garbage. The longer it takes a tool to do a job, the more that tool builds heat, the more friction is exerted on the internal components. We should all know by now that heat and friction destroy tools.
@@ToolswithSoAlz Rubish! Slower speed puts less strain so on the motor this = less heat, slower speed is kinder on the battery, meaning it won't have to work so hard, again this = less heat. Been using battery drills/impact drivers for years, if you over stress/strain them, they burn out quick. Example: try cycling up a hill in the wrong gear, or put too small a battery in a car and see how long it lasts.
No ma'am you just don't know or understand tools
I have a DeWalt drill, can you recommend screw driver attachments for it? I have been using the screw driver attachments from my impact driver.
Quick eject adapter
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I have been a Dewalt fan for the longest time and slowly switching to Milwaukee, I got the atomic and fuel 12v set and the M had better features like 3 selectable speed ranges and option for disabling hammer. Dewalt on the other hand had a better chuck that you can replace the bits with one hand.