You need to still have the plug on, so when they plug it in and turn it on ( they always will do that unless it is truly in pieces externally) it will smoke a little and then the plug fuse will stop the fun. Act clueless and say " You broke it!" then as well. New one sadly will be made with a junk motor, not the proper copper wire but the nasty CCA wire they all use in current models. Same poor bearings though, the old one just needed a few pounds of bearings and gears to fix it, but being an off brand with house label ( probably a Ryobi model in any case) it might have been hard to get.
+SeanBZA Actually you can get some bearings just about anywhere (especially on eBay), but gears (especially for something manufactured specifically for the department stores) are next to unobtainable (except if you know someone who can do fine metalworking or have a CNC handy of course).....
Fantastic, I love how when it dies and the blade begins to spin down, it chimes at the end like the bell of a church signifying it's now resting in Electrical component heaven.
Assembled saw: Nought to pop in 62 seconds Max power before malfunction is 2.293 W Peak popping current is 27 Amps at 411 Volts (thus an apparent popping power of 11.097 VA (Meter shows 9.615 W)) Cause of failure: Field winding meltdown. (I'm surprised the brushes didn't fail o,O ) "Repaired" saw (#1): Nought to pop in 36 seconds Max power before malfunction is 1.550 W Peak popping current is 19 Amps at 165 Volts (thus an apparent popping power of 3.135 VA (Meter shows 2.976 W)) Cause of failure: Brush flash over resulting in meltdown of input cable solder. "Repaired" saw (#2): Nought to pop in 36 seconds Max power before malfunction is 970 W (that's when flames started shooting out) Peak popping current is 63 Amps at 111 Volts (thus an apparent popping power of 6.993 VA (Meter shows 6.824 W)) Cause of failure: Brush flash over resulting in burnout. "Burnt out saw (finishing it off): Nought to pop in 46 seconds Max power before malfunction is 0 W (it was already malfunctioning at the start) Peak popping current is 61 Amps at 32 Volts (thus an apparent popping power of 1.952 VA (Meter shows 2.038 W)) Cause of failure: Probably thorough meltdown. P.S.: So did the saw only spin in the second and third experiment because of the remaining magnetization of the field winding? P.P.S.: I just saw the comment about this, so you turned the thing into a reverse induction motor. Funny. :D
If you just multiply Volts and Amperes you get VA, not Watts. For measuring Watts, you need to multiply VA with phase angle as well, that is what this meter does and than displays it.
Over the years, you truly have mastered the skill of eeking out every last scrap of [abuse] entertainment from a worn out electrical product. To that, I salute you sir :) Scrapheap challenge redefined!
Not only do the neighbors have to do endure the aroma of "ode de burning mitre saw", now their family dog gets bisected by a ballistic saw-blade as well. That's sure to instill feelings of neighborly love :-P
Only when the product is on fire, disintegrating and sparking, is it considered dying or dead on this channel lmao. This has to be one of the best casual channels out there
I'm laughing right now, over him still trying to juice this thing as its burning in flames, and all I can think of is the Simpsons meme "Stop , Stop, he's already dead!"
+Harry Lawton i think so yeah, didnt he end up in the news papers? and yeah i hope the friend i will visit has a good backup generator. if photonicinduction decides to blow up all cables we still have power
i love tools but im a "utilitarian" so if its broke and i cant fix it with a hammer and some half inch bolts its better just to fuck it off and get another one from the scrapyard in better shape
Oh yes, universal motors run without a field winding. But, they pull a bit much current, go out of control and burn up quickly. They also have very little torque as they're only pushing against their own induced field. Notice how he didn't even reach 240V the first 2 times it burned up.
they do. actually you can have electronically controlled transmission by adjustung rotor and field winding currents. more field winding current=more max torque. more rotor current=more max rpm
Usually if you give it a little nudge it will start spinning without the field winding but with as much electricity flowing through those brushes I was surprised to see it spin as well lol.
This was excellent Photon...hilarious when it was on fire,then the motor stopped and you said"Oh,the wire fell off,better fix that"HAHA!!.Your audio was excellent also.
I remember going on bing of your videos a couple years ago, but I forget your channel name. I cannot express how genuinely happy I am to have re-found this channel. More power gentlemen.
+Klaufmann Who doesn't? :) ...but no, that type of motor has Mains AC on it and it runs fine. As long as the field windings switches polarity with the armature. (North and South swaps sides when referenced to actual space as the armature spins. On DC, it doesn't.) ...then again, he could have easily rewound the field coils with #10AWG THHN.
Yes, but universal motors also run on DC, so permanent magnets would act like field windings on DC voltage. On Ac it only runs, if stator and rotor get the same AC current, so this wouldn't work with permanent magnets, as they don't change polarity.
I have never before been convinced that a saw blade was going to go into hyperspace, and come right through the screen and slice off an appendage. Bravo!
You, sir, are the Ramsay Bolton of Alternating Current! Was one of your ancestors responsible for Tesla's lab burning down? Nice torture test. I particularly enjoyed your insistence on ensuring that each and every conductor in the system receive a complete meltdown. Half way through, I nearly had a panic attack when I imagined a toddler walking down the passageway! Na, couldn't happen, the kid would be taken out by the tesla coil in the garden!
Unsuspecting individual - "So, how many amps does that saw draw?" Andy - ".......all of them, mate. It draws all of the amps." Unsuspecting individual - 'confused look' Andy - 'lunatic laughter'
PI. You have taught the world with your musings. You have saved countless lives. WE need you to continue to [THROW THE SWITCH] on our imagination. Your enthusiasm is permanently burned in our collective aspirations. This world would be orders of magnitude dimmer without your brilliance. You are a gift to us. We need you.
Nice carnage... my 13 yr old son made himself a tazer glove from a poundland leccy fly bat this morning and immediately wanted to try it on himself.... I have pointed him in your direction. don't know if that was good parenting but I can't wait to find out...
Old comment so I'm talking in general but it's a terrible idea to get a kid influenced to play with high voltage and amperage even if he is smart kids and teens don't have the brain development in parts of their brains to keep them from doing stupid things. Photon is an actual electrical engineer, thirteen year olds aren't and don't shouldn't be doing any of the things he does.
Excellent video! You don't let the motors tell you when they're done! They try to die but you doctor them up and continue to torture them until you declare they're dead!!
Every time one of my tools becomes noisy I just take it apart and replace all of it's bearings and use it much more. (I get a better grade while I am at it.)
Great work as usual, Photon! Can't wait for more videos. Your comment early on made me wonder what the ladies watching these cool videos must be like. I'd fancy meeting one or two. ... if there are any!
Your channel is legendary, just a shame no further uploads. You and your channel is great, hope everything is well :) I still watch these repeatedly lol
You're a lucky guy, the power people didn't want to give me more than 12 kW installation without redoing terminal projects which would cost bazillion. So I'm stuck with these pathetic 20A circuit breakers;)
***** You can use a transformer, there are many topologies to achieve that, although there are problems with balancing the load between phases. Without transformer in usual wye configuration you can either use one of phases and neutral to get (for example) 230 V or use two phases to get 400V, but it won't change the amps rating of the fuse! ;)
andy's been doing this since 2007 though! He deleted his old channel when his "Brick in the washing machine" vid went viral and people started copying it for the ad revenue.
Mitch Levy Yes, the green in amps. To prove it, multiply the red (volts) and green (amps) to get watts (blue). Of course, you'l have to divide by 1000 to get killowatts like this one has. :D
Blue is kW, red is voltage and green is current. Instrument also measures phase angle so it can display power in watts, for which you would normally need additional instrument.
Nice to see you making regular videos again Andy mate. I'm surprised this one went as high as it did, thought the dragging gearbox would have been putting extra load on it
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Before you disposed of it, you should've taken in to a tool repair centre and told them it seems to run a bit hot sometimes. See what they say!
Just take it back to the Big Box Store and claim a new one under warranty - "Only used on weekends; ran okay for a few little projects".
You need to still have the plug on, so when they plug it in and turn it on ( they always will do that unless it is truly in pieces externally) it will smoke a little and then the plug fuse will stop the fun. Act clueless and say " You broke it!" then as well.
New one sadly will be made with a junk motor, not the proper copper wire but the nasty CCA wire they all use in current models. Same poor bearings though, the old one just needed a few pounds of bearings and gears to fix it, but being an off brand with house label ( probably a Ryobi model in any case) it might have been hard to get.
It still does have plug on.
+SeanBZA Actually you can get some bearings just about anywhere (especially on eBay), but gears (especially for something manufactured specifically for the department stores) are next to unobtainable (except if you know someone who can do fine metalworking or have a CNC handy of course).....
"i just cut a branch and this damage happened"
I imagine his neighbors hearing this upon waking up and angrily shouting "he's fucking at it again with this shit". You're a legend man
Like his vids, hate to live near him
I’ve only just found this man on RUclips & I love him. He does sound a bit cracked up sometimes with his mad mans laugh. 👍🏻
Fantastic, I love how when it dies and the blade begins to spin down, it chimes at the end like the bell of a church signifying it's now resting in Electrical component heaven.
Funny thing was I knew there would be a comment just like this! I noticed that aswell lmao.
Assembled saw:
Nought to pop in 62 seconds
Max power before malfunction is 2.293 W
Peak popping current is 27 Amps at 411 Volts (thus an apparent popping power of 11.097 VA (Meter shows 9.615 W))
Cause of failure: Field winding meltdown. (I'm surprised the brushes didn't fail o,O )
"Repaired" saw (#1):
Nought to pop in 36 seconds
Max power before malfunction is 1.550 W
Peak popping current is 19 Amps at 165 Volts (thus an apparent popping power of 3.135 VA (Meter shows 2.976 W))
Cause of failure: Brush flash over resulting in meltdown of input cable solder.
"Repaired" saw (#2):
Nought to pop in 36 seconds
Max power before malfunction is 970 W (that's when flames started shooting out)
Peak popping current is 63 Amps at 111 Volts (thus an apparent popping power of 6.993 VA (Meter shows 6.824 W))
Cause of failure: Brush flash over resulting in burnout.
"Burnt out saw (finishing it off):
Nought to pop in 46 seconds
Max power before malfunction is 0 W (it was already malfunctioning at the start)
Peak popping current is 61 Amps at 32 Volts (thus an apparent popping power of 1.952 VA (Meter shows 2.038 W))
Cause of failure: Probably thorough meltdown.
P.S.: So did the saw only spin in the second and third experiment because of the remaining magnetization of the field winding?
P.P.S.: I just saw the comment about this, so you turned the thing into a reverse induction motor. Funny. :D
Blimey mate lol
+Photonicinduction can I buy a hv fuse off you for display purposes?
I need to get some more in, there might be some others on ebay ?
+Photonicinduction have you got any bushings for sale? I really like electrical things for display
If you just multiply Volts and Amperes you get VA, not Watts. For measuring Watts, you need to multiply VA with phase angle as well, that is what this meter does and than displays it.
can't decide what's more scary. the sparks and flames or the spinning wheel of absolute death.
Gave me Eraserhead vibes
@@hexus9198 spinning blade of *DEATH*
Definitely spinning wheel of death for me. At least you can out run a fire (unless you get caught in it).
Wheel of death. Electricity can't hurt you from far away but the blade can if it flys off
My Highschool workshop teacher would either be very proud we got the electric motor scream in pain or very scared.
Cool device:
5:13 Plasma gun;
5:35 Electric lighter;
6:20 Jet engine mode;
6:26 Blast furnace mode;
6:42 Smoke & flame generator mode;
7:11 Eliminates the extra parts;
7:20 Abuzz sound generator;
7:41 Cause a rain.
Fantastic. Smoke and flames, what we like to see from cutting edge technology.
Buh dum tiss
Nice pun.
Well badumching that was funny I'm laughing sooooo hard
You are so funny
The way he says "Can you hear that noise, that noise means something's going to get busted, badly!" and then that evil laugh
Over the years, you truly have mastered the skill of eeking out every last scrap of [abuse] entertainment from a worn out electrical product. To that, I salute you sir :) Scrapheap challenge redefined!
Cheers:)
You really need a remote release for that blade. You know... just for science ;)
LMAO! YES * *CLICK...PING...ZIPPPPPPPPP. THUD... sorry!"
+TheChipmunk2008 lol
Not only do the neighbors have to do endure the aroma of "ode de burning mitre saw", now their family dog gets bisected by a ballistic saw-blade as well. That's sure to instill feelings of neighborly love :-P
Mikℯ Kℯn† lol
You mean I get MegaMan X2's Wheel Gator? :)
Until it Pops is a 100% efficient way of turning electrical energy into fun.
*CRAIGSLIST* Chop saw, perfect condition, never abused. $300 obo. No lowballs.
Best I can do is $25
Can handle any job you throw at it _I know my tools_
Still under warranty?
6:26 "The jet saw" LOL
Someone please make a jet engine powered saw :D
colinfurze where are you?
+fabriziorocca lol
Yeah it reminded me of some renditions of the batmobile.
The Jet saw what?
ok im jk
Only when the product is on fire, disintegrating and sparking, is it considered dying or dead on this channel lmao. This has to be one of the best casual channels out there
the wind pushing the back of the motor made the fire effect legendary!
Absolutely satisfying
Something about an electrical motor running while it's on fire just brings out the best in me.
Love this fucking channel.
I'm laughing right now, over him still trying to juice this thing as its burning in flames, and all I can think of is the Simpsons meme "Stop , Stop, he's already dead!"
The only RUclips channel where a chop saw gets turned into a fucking jet engine 😂
How can 24 people not like the art of using electricity to set things on fire!?
2:58 the bell tolls for thee.
Glad I wasn't the only one who noticed. :)
Photon, I found your channel from your tug boat video, I work as a Marine Engineer. I have to say it been the best find ever! Absolutely classic!
Cutting edge educational video :)
Put a power turbine on that and you would have a backyard jet
problem is im coming to Kent soon, i believe thats where he lives. should i wear some sort of non conductive rubbed suit?
... You will just need to watch you don't use any sensitive devices at night, if you notice any lights flickering you will know who it is :)
+Electric Lightbulb lol he blew the power for his Street before.
+Harry Lawton i think so yeah, didnt he end up in the news papers? and yeah i hope the friend i will visit has a good backup generator. if photonicinduction decides to blow up all cables we still have power
+FusionRisen i live all the way in holland with lots of insulating land inbetween me and this gorgeous madman xD
+FusionRisen Peter Kushing lives in whitstable :-D
the poor thing still moved after dying twice!
Went out like a church bell lol pop IT!
It is brilliant to be able too hear you clearly. Your dialog and commentary is important. Thank you so much for using the wireless.
All tool lovers at 7:30
"Stop! Stop, he's already dead!"
i love tools but im a "utilitarian" so if its broke and i cant fix it with a hammer and some half inch bolts its better just to fuck it off and get another one from the scrapyard in better shape
nani?
This is truly one of your best videos, The flames being pushed out of the brushes was glorious.
I really didn't expect it to run without a field winding.
Oh yes, universal motors run without a field winding.
But, they pull a bit much current, go out of control and burn up quickly.
They also have very little torque as they're only pushing against their own induced field.
Notice how he didn't even reach 240V the first 2 times it burned up.
they do. actually you can have electronically controlled transmission by adjustung rotor and field winding currents. more field winding current=more max torque. more rotor current=more max rpm
I suppose "accidental" excitation of a magnetic field in the stator would make something move, I just didn't expect such "enthusiasm" from the rotor.
Usually if you give it a little nudge it will start spinning without the field winding but with as much electricity flowing through those brushes I was surprised to see it spin as well lol.
One of the more entertaining "until it pops" videos -- I liked how you kept it going for so long. Fun!
This was excellent Photon...hilarious when it was on fire,then the motor stopped and you said"Oh,the wire fell off,better fix that"HAHA!!.Your audio was excellent also.
I remember going on bing of your videos a couple years ago, but I forget your channel name. I cannot express how genuinely happy I am to have re-found this channel. More power gentlemen.
My kind of sick guy! Loved it. Going to subscribe!
Good man!
Great to see you up and running again andy.
Your sparks brighten my days!
+Photonicinduction Please, please make a Video about the other Mercury Arc Rectifier, which you showed us in the "Old Rectifiers" Video
Glad you're back. This video proves you're a master of the elements, harnessing the power of lightning and perspiration to do your bidding.
How can the motor be driven without field windings?
Yeah, how did he do that?
+Klaufmann Probably used permanent magnets he didn't mention.
But then he would need DC voltage. Does he have a rectifier for high powers? What am I asking, he propably has...
+Klaufmann Who doesn't? :)
...but no, that type of motor has Mains AC on it and it runs fine. As long as the field windings switches polarity with the armature. (North and South swaps sides when referenced to actual space as the armature spins. On DC, it doesn't.)
...then again, he could have easily rewound the field coils with #10AWG THHN.
Yes, but universal motors also run on DC, so permanent magnets would act like field windings on DC voltage. On Ac it only runs, if stator and rotor get the same AC current, so this wouldn't work with permanent magnets, as they don't change polarity.
I have never before been convinced that a saw blade was going to go into hyperspace, and come right through the screen and slice off an appendage. Bravo!
7:10 Stop stahp, it's already dead!
I totally forgot how much I loved this channel...
Wow...that thing just didn't want to die! It sure put up a hell of a fight!
I love the buzz of AC current as it fries electronics combined with smoke, incandescent metal and the crackling of coils or windings frying.
You, sir, are the Ramsay Bolton of Alternating Current! Was one of your ancestors responsible for Tesla's lab burning down?
Nice torture test. I particularly enjoyed your insistence on ensuring that each and every conductor in the system receive a complete meltdown.
Half way through, I nearly had a panic attack when I imagined a toddler walking down the passageway! Na, couldn't happen, the kid would be taken out by the tesla coil in the garden!
You know you are watching a dangerous video when you instinctively lean back from the screen. Well done.
Unsuspecting individual - "So, how many amps does that saw draw?"
Andy - ".......all of them, mate. It draws all of the amps."
Unsuspecting individual - 'confused look'
Andy - 'lunatic laughter'
You are my hero ! ! !satisfying video for a "normal" guy ! ! !God bless you again.
Epic, love the sound
Sounds better than a Crosley?
You seriously have the most calming voice.
When you plug you're saw into a high leg delta without realizing it lol
PI. You have taught the world with your musings. You have saved countless lives. WE need you to continue to [THROW THE SWITCH] on our imagination. Your enthusiasm is permanently burned in our collective aspirations. This world would be orders of magnitude dimmer without your brilliance. You are a gift to us. We need you.
women: why do men live shorter than women?
men:
I love it. Thought you were done first time, but you dont give up, popped it twice more, your vicious!
Excellent burnout !
Man, this channel is amazing, what a guy!! Turned a saw into a hybrid electric turbine engine!
Nice carnage... my 13 yr old son made himself a tazer glove from a poundland leccy fly bat this morning and immediately wanted to try it on himself.... I have pointed him in your direction. don't know if that was good parenting but I can't wait to find out...
haha
Did it work out?
@@kaasperzik73 yep!
Old comment so I'm talking in general but it's a terrible idea to get a kid influenced to play with high voltage and amperage even if he is smart kids and teens don't have the brain development in parts of their brains to keep them from doing stupid things. Photon is an actual electrical engineer, thirteen year olds aren't and don't shouldn't be doing any of the things he does.
Excellent video! You don't let the motors tell you when they're done! They try to die but you doctor them up and continue to torture them until you declare they're dead!!
That was a pretty well built motor to take that abuse and still turn. Nice. LoL
One of the best, if not the best, RUclips channels!
Every time one of my tools becomes noisy I just take it apart and replace all of it's bearings and use it much more. (I get a better grade while I am at it.)
0:15 "That noise means something is gonna get busted - badly." (laughs). That's why I love him
I don't know how you found neighbors that will put up with all that but I want them
They probably like to watch the free live show. :D
his is mates with one of them and he pops over for some videos ,
Yeah I bet they are pretty cool mine would have been calling the cops when that motor started flaming
Have you seen the video(s) where he sets his entire backyard alight?
michael mclaughlin
I have. XD
Now that's a very nice cremation and a fitting dignified end going out in a blaze of glory.
1.21 gigawatts, Damn Flux capacitor.
1.2 JIGGAWATTS!?!
1.21 Niggawatts
+digitalradiohacker Man, this is heavy!
Lets see if you bastards can do 90
+digitalradiohacker I AM DAVE! YOGNAU(GH)T AND I HAVE THE BALLS!
my new favorite channel!!!! Great stuff cobber!!!!
Lol last scene needed to be on black and white with sad music over the top. #feels 😉😉😉
Great work as usual, Photon! Can't wait for more videos.
Your comment early on made me wonder what the ladies watching these cool videos must be like. I'd fancy meeting one or two. ... if there are any!
I'll have to send you a gas turbine ignitor plug!
Your channel is legendary, just a shame no further uploads. You and your channel is great, hope everything is well :) I still watch these repeatedly lol
POST MORE VIDEOS! I NEED THE BIG BOY SUPPLY!
lol, you are in for a treat soon then, 20,000 watts required
You're a lucky guy, the power people didn't want to give me more than 12 kW installation without redoing terminal projects which would cost bazillion. So I'm stuck with these pathetic 20A circuit breakers;)
***** You can use a transformer, there are many topologies to achieve that, although there are problems with balancing the load between phases. Without transformer in usual wye configuration you can either use one of phases and neutral to get (for example) 230 V or use two phases to get 400V, but it won't change the amps rating of the fuse! ;)
I got 50 amp 230v in my shop.
I love this channel so much...I may cry.
I mitre known you'd be busting something at the weekend, but I never saw that coming .
It just kept going and going and going! That's one hell of an impressive motor
wood it hert if u putt ur hand in the saw
ba dum tss
XD
You would have no hand yes it would hurt
Reanimated electrics! Like a Frankenstein saw. Photon, you just would not let it rest in peace! So funny. Good stuff!
You don't stop until it pops. Would be a great T-shirt
Glad you're back posting videos again, mate. Cheers!
That shirt is getting tighter!!!!
IT'S GONNA POP.
split 3 last month lol
Man! You are one crazy, sick-in-the-head maniac! I LOVE IT!!!
An African could have eaten that saw, while it was in operation. :-)
Edgy joke not recognized
The saw: "JUST LET ME DIE ALREADY"
Photonicinduction: "aw better get that going again"
The saw: "NOOOOOOOOOO"
This is sorta like BOLTR by AvE.
andy's been doing this since 2007 though! He deleted his old channel when his "Brick in the washing machine" vid went viral and people started copying it for the ad revenue.
02:58 chimes Bells sound
Thank you photo induction for bringing back the great videos!
And yet another instant 'Tube epic production in true Photon fashion! Thanks for the show and keep it up (ya know; in the name of science) ☺
Love your videos. You're a very funny chap keep it up.
cheers
Richard Hammond, insane bastard brother!!! 🤣🤣
Your video's never disappoint. So through to keep connecting - Truly getting your moneys worth out of that one!
Another quality video from photonicproductions cheers photon keep up the good work mate
You like Clarkson but in electricity))))
Love your channel
This is the best guide of how to make a jet engine from a table saw in five minutes(no tools needed!)
Nothing better than a photonicinduction fix on a Sunday, thanks for another great video 👌
Very good to be sitting in bed on a Sunday morning chatting to friends
I love the wooden fence that acts as a security barrier against flying blades
It would be hilarious if it was still under warranty. take the saw back to where you bought it in that condition XD
If they did multiple repairs to it then it's far out of warranty
+Ryan Brewer yea right that sucker is a home brand saw from screwfix. The staff
There would probably re box it and put it back into stock! LOL
One of your best videos!!!
Overpowering alone was too safe, but reversing the wiring like at 4:19 to add a kickback feature really helped.
I love this channel keep blowing stuff up
Could someone explain the numbers in blue and red? Yeah I know i'm stupid thanks. Volts or amps?
i believe red is voltage and blue is watts
Thanks! and the green is amps?
Mitch Levy
Yes, the green in amps.
To prove it, multiply the red (volts) and green (amps) to get watts (blue).
Of course, you'l have to divide by 1000 to get killowatts like this one has. :D
os opz
You'l need 1.21 of those to be specific. :P
Blue is kW, red is voltage and green is current. Instrument also measures phase angle so it can display power in watts, for which you would normally need additional instrument.
Nice to see you making regular videos again Andy mate. I'm surprised this one went as high as it did, thought the dragging gearbox would have been putting extra load on it
That saw fought to survive. Neighbours must love you.
can you make a video to ovevolt blender
Great video Photon. I look forward to the next one.
That was freaking awesome, I applaud you, keep up the good work, you totally kick ass!