The fact that tyranids are immune to black stone means that Hive mind is completely in our reality, it's not from the warp, it's just has some effect on it.
They are not immune. Valark is wrong about that. The article doesn't give the exact reason why the GSC are mostly immune. It speculates it's either because of their hybrid nature or because of their zealous faith in their Broodfather. Considering that faith Imperials are largely immune to the effects of the Pylons I say the latter is most likely. And on that note, the Votann are not immune too. The article says that they are resistant because of their smaller souls compared to humans. Staying too long in the range of the Blackstone Pylons is going weaken them but not at the same intensity and speed as it does to humans. As for the Tyranid, from previous lore like the Necron 5ed codex, it's stated that Necron anti-Warp tech royally screws the Hivemind and its psychic vassals. It has always been the lore that Pariahs and Null tech harms the Hivemind.
The necron lore has stated for some editions that tomb worlds are avoided by tyranid fleets BECAUSE they are a "hole" in the warp map (wich has been clarified to be caused by blackstone) so I don't really know
@@Warlord_Gruktak_Rukrak welcome to Warhammer where the imperium are hypocritical also eldar and humanity fates are entertwined in the current setting keep in mind In mind I never said it was a good idea for half human half eldar space marines to exist lol
Blackstone can be used to weaken warp activity OR to empower it. It’s very much a positive charge/negative charge thing. I think this was in the lore since Battlefleet Gothic
"Incoming missles, too close to evade.....JUMP NOW, or die with me." I am in the middle of watching (mostly listening because I'm painting minis) Helsreach for at least the 33rd time, and I heard your voice and I'm like WTF ??? So i Google searched Chapter Master Valrak Helsreach and you were the Thunderhawk Pilot !!!! SONS OF DORN !!!!!! That's so awesome, Bruv...I didn't know that previously.... YOU ARE CONNECTED TO THE WHISPERVERSE....!!! HELL YEA!!!! CHEERS!!!!!
Incredible, GW actually remembered we exist. Blackstone impeding Drukhari replenishing their thirst is concerning for them. But I do imagine they are thinking of ways to utilize it so they can stem the Daemonic invasion on commorragh permanently. They stopped it already, with the help of the mandrakes, but the threat is still there. So this could be their key to permanently make sure it never happens again. But ya, Blackstone being capable of amplifying warp powers makes so much more sense because that explains how Vaul made the Blackstone Fortresses. Until now it made little sense why Vaul would make a weapon that is clearly powered by warp tech out of a material that suppressed the warp. But if blackstone can be made to amplify warp presence as well depending on how it is used, that explains a lot of things.
For the Dark Eldar it's not all jollies from abuse, it's the suffering of others masks their existence, hope their codex comes with some new HQ for their sub factions
Eeeeeerrrrrrrmmmm, the Black stone has been about since Battle Fleet Gothic! Plus mentions of the Pylons on Cadia until the 13th Black Crusade (Games Day 2003!)
10th edition, AKA The Black Stone Rush. Everyone is either rushing to grab as much of it as they can, rushing in to take advantage of the chaos, or rushing to get the hell away from it.
Necrons: Ah ha! Our Pariah Nexus will pacify and weaken the lesser races so that we can reclaim our galaxy with ease! Genestealer Cults: *laughs in Tyranid Hive Mind*
Thank you GW for giving me a new Battlefleet Gothic scenario: Demiurg/Votann launch a surprise raid on a lightly supported (probably inactive) Blackstone Fortress. VP's will come down to how many successful Hit & Runs plus Boarding Actions the Demiurg ships can get on the Fortress. Hell yeah!
Wow! This sounds like some really fun and interesting lore that could really focus on the Xeno races. Can't wait for GW to do nothing with it for the next 5-10 years or just completely drop it!
As soon as the Forgebane box came out i snapped up a set of the fantasy ruins they used for Blackstone in the box pics. And then grabbed the Necron terrain set that's partially clad in it, i also got the Pariah Nexus Kill Team box with it's necron terrain and two sets of the last edition objective markers with their Necron and Mechanicus pieces. I'm even making a lifesize servo skull to house a speaker to blast the Mechanicus OST as soundtrack for my Mechanicus vs Necron Blackstone-gathering games but.... where's a Mechanicus Blackstone terrain piece? Cawl needs to hurry up with that because Chaos have theirs and the Necron have theirs and the whole plot of Forgebane was that the Mechaniucs were grabbing the stuff for Cawl to mess with. C'mon GW, make a nice piece of Blackstone hooked up with Mechanicus gizmos as a terrain piece!
Blackstone might not be affecting the Genestealers because their version of Tyrannid Hive mind is called the Brood Mind and is much more localized and it sends signals to the hive mind which still shouldn’t be possible in this case. If the Nids as a whole are immune to blackstone now however, it might be game over just due to how ridiculously powerful their psyker forms are. But Genestealers unable to make long distance call for help to hive fleet but can still communicate in system may he plausible.
As far as I’m aware, black stone has a polarity, which can be changed(?) so it can “negatively” charged and neuter the warp, or “positively” charged and enhance the warp
Man I was so pumped for squats I went out and bought some and then they just kicked them back to the bin. Glad we are going to get something for them. Votan are not xenos in my mind!
That was a good stream last night, and thanks for your input on Harlequins. Its a shame that Necrons never found their way into Blackstone Fortress, and GW has just been sitting that great game since 2020. I hope they have a follow up 40K Quest soon...
The Silent King's situation is like playing Teclis in Immortal Empires. The Xenos going really into it is setting this place up nice I think though it will end with a Black hole sucking the sector into it.
Here's a potentially interesting future storyline for the Eldar: Through some kind of crazy scenario part of Slannesh are severed from itself as it tries to take too much power from the other ruinous powers and out comes the collective souls of a vast number of the non-hedonistic Eldar which form a new warp god which itself harbors the souls of fallen Eldar and can return them to living bodies safely and without for of Slannesh. Other Eldar Warp gods could also be saved from the clutches of the ruinous powers and be returned to a pantheon.
Sounds like the Ork Meks have found a way to speedrun a new War of the Beast. Pre-emptive rip to the Imperial Fists. May their like 26th founding version made after the current 4th founding chapter gets destroyed hold fast against the Green Tide
its less a situation of "the ennemy of my ennemy is my friend" and more of a "the ennemy of my ennemy is a bit less problematic in this situation, and i can let them mostly kill each other" i think
Drukhari should see the potential in blackstone for patching up the warp incursions into Commorragh surely. Also if it nullifies the drain Slaanesh has on their souls surely it would mean they don’t need to inflict suffering to survive when using blackstone. It seems like a win win scenario if that were the case, I don’t understand why they say they’re dying out in the sector.
When you talk about xenos is blablabla yadda yadda yadda.... but when you say ORKS....stop everything and listening...cause waaagh is very very important... 🤪
The fact that tyranids are immune to black stone means that Hive mind is completely in our reality, it's not from the warp, it's just has some effect on it.
Or another reality?
They are not immune. Valark is wrong about that. The article doesn't give the exact reason why the GSC are mostly immune. It speculates it's either because of their hybrid nature or because of their zealous faith in their Broodfather.
Considering that faith Imperials are largely immune to the effects of the Pylons I say the latter is most likely.
And on that note, the Votann are not immune too. The article says that they are resistant because of their smaller souls compared to humans. Staying too long in the range of the Blackstone Pylons is going weaken them but not at the same intensity and speed as it does to humans.
As for the Tyranid, from previous lore like the Necron 5ed codex, it's stated that Necron anti-Warp tech royally screws the Hivemind and its psychic vassals. It has always been the lore that Pariahs and Null tech harms the Hivemind.
C'tan levels of awesomeness!
@zergrush_9704
The Hivemind is not immune. The article doesn't even say that the GSC are immune because they are hybrids. I suggest reading it.
The necron lore has stated for some editions that tomb worlds are avoided by tyranid fleets BECAUSE they are a "hole" in the warp map (wich has been clarified to be caused by blackstone) so I don't really know
GW remembering that Leagues of Votann exist in the 40K universe ? Impossible !
Next they will bring back half human half eldar space marines and that eldari generally had lore
@@anotheronebitesthedust-fs6wrnah..that is the next level of heresy
@@anotheronebitesthedust-fs6wr Guilliman already leaving Yvraine to go get the milk lol
@@Warlord_Gruktak_Rukrak welcome to Warhammer where the imperium are hypocritical also eldar and humanity fates are entertwined in the current setting keep in mind In mind I never said it was a good idea for half human half eldar space marines to exist lol
We 'azn't fergot 'em... PULP DA STUNTIES, BOYZ!
Blackstone can be used to weaken warp activity OR to empower it. It’s very much a positive charge/negative charge thing. I think this was in the lore since Battlefleet Gothic
Yea, I cringed a bit when he said Blackstone was first introduced in 8th.
That's what Vaul did with the Blackstone Fortresses. He made them with blackstone that probably amplified the psychic tech within it.
I miss the Blackstone Constructs from the Blackstone Fortress game, those were awesome. Shame it seems they've forgotten them.
All this xeno faction love makes me really hungry for another primaris lieutenant release.
WOOO!! 😂😂
I know right it's almost been a year. We need another one.
"Incoming missles, too close to evade.....JUMP NOW, or die with me." I am in the middle of watching (mostly listening because I'm painting minis) Helsreach for at least the 33rd time, and I heard your voice and I'm like WTF ??? So i Google searched Chapter Master Valrak Helsreach and you were the Thunderhawk Pilot !!!! SONS OF DORN !!!!!! That's so awesome, Bruv...I didn't know that previously.... YOU ARE CONNECTED TO THE WHISPERVERSE....!!! HELL YEA!!!! CHEERS!!!!!
A snippet of Votann lore? I'll take it.
Incredible, GW actually remembered we exist.
Blackstone impeding Drukhari replenishing their thirst is concerning for them. But I do imagine they are thinking of ways to utilize it so they can stem the Daemonic invasion on commorragh permanently. They stopped it already, with the help of the mandrakes, but the threat is still there. So this could be their key to permanently make sure it never happens again.
But ya, Blackstone being capable of amplifying warp powers makes so much more sense because that explains how Vaul made the Blackstone Fortresses. Until now it made little sense why Vaul would make a weapon that is clearly powered by warp tech out of a material that suppressed the warp. But if blackstone can be made to amplify warp presence as well depending on how it is used, that explains a lot of things.
Blackstone also amplifying is old news, Valrak just forgot about it. It was always a polarity material that could both hamper or amplify warp
Haha, I want a story now with a sister of battle, and 7 leagues of voltans 😂
*Belisarius Cawl realizing all factions of Warhammer 40k fighting each other after publicizing what Blackstone can do:
Was he responsible for the Bully Boyz detachment? Blackstone explains the double WAAAAAGGHHHH!
For the Dark Eldar it's not all jollies from abuse, it's the suffering of others masks their existence, hope their codex comes with some new HQ for their sub factions
Awww yeah, xenos, the actual interesting part of 40k
Eeeeeerrrrrrrmmmm, the Black stone has been about since Battle Fleet Gothic! Plus mentions of the Pylons on Cadia until the 13th Black Crusade (Games Day 2003!)
I was thinking the same thing. Blackstone Fortress was in the original BFG release in 1999. Lol
Word: Nephilim
Valrak: "Nepheeleeyem?"
Sorry, I had to.
See the short story One Million Years by author Nate Crowley in which the Leagues of Votaan attempt to hijack a Necron Star Skimmer.
10th edition, AKA The Black Stone Rush. Everyone is either rushing to grab as much of it as they can, rushing in to take advantage of the chaos, or rushing to get the hell away from it.
Necrons: Ah ha! Our Pariah Nexus will pacify and weaken the lesser races so that we can reclaim our galaxy with ease!
Genestealer Cults: *laughs in Tyranid Hive Mind*
"introduced in 8th edition"
*Forgets them being a major plot point in the Eisenhorn novels*
*Forgets Blackstone Fortresses predate 8e*
Did someone say Rock and Stone!!!!
We're RICH!
Thank you GW for giving me a new Battlefleet Gothic scenario: Demiurg/Votann launch a surprise raid on a lightly supported (probably inactive) Blackstone Fortress. VP's will come down to how many successful Hit & Runs plus Boarding Actions the Demiurg ships can get on the Fortress. Hell yeah!
Wow! This sounds like some really fun and interesting lore that could really focus on the Xeno races. Can't wait for GW to do nothing with it for the next 5-10 years or just completely drop it!
Gork n' Mork is probably going to be Khorne new rival 🤣
Why would Gork and Mork bother with such a puny god?
Necron war with votann sound like a great story. We could see them finally putting a full men of iron army on the front lines.
As soon as the Forgebane box came out i snapped up a set of the fantasy ruins they used for Blackstone in the box pics. And then grabbed the Necron terrain set that's partially clad in it, i also got the Pariah Nexus Kill Team box with it's necron terrain and two sets of the last edition objective markers with their Necron and Mechanicus pieces. I'm even making a lifesize servo skull to house a speaker to blast the Mechanicus OST as soundtrack for my Mechanicus vs Necron Blackstone-gathering games but.... where's a Mechanicus Blackstone terrain piece? Cawl needs to hurry up with that because Chaos have theirs and the Necron have theirs and the whole plot of Forgebane was that the Mechaniucs were grabbing the stuff for Cawl to mess with. C'mon GW, make a nice piece of Blackstone hooked up with Mechanicus gizmos as a terrain piece!
Let’s go dark eldar!
Blackstone can hamper or amplify warp activities, so it's a polarity material.
Valrak seems incredibly humble in this video…god tier humble
Ohhhh wow my poor Craftworlders, this is a tragic fate!
Blackstone might not be affecting the Genestealers because their version of Tyrannid Hive mind is called the Brood Mind and is much more localized and it sends signals to the hive mind which still shouldn’t be possible in this case. If the Nids as a whole are immune to blackstone now however, it might be game over just due to how ridiculously powerful their psyker forms are. But Genestealers unable to make long distance call for help to hive fleet but can still communicate in system may he plausible.
We need a Votann vs. Orks campaign
Concerning the Eldar. . it seems this would be a nice narrative point to bring back Ynnead. Ynnead and Blackstones. . . hmmmm 🤔
mmmmmm, yes, rock and stone, it is time
Votann vs Necrons ooo nice!
Votann are like my new favorite Xenos Faction
Tyranids are disrupted by the Blackstone, but Genestealers operate independently from the Hive Mind, so that's why they are probably immune.
I like that they turned Blackstone into something akin to Warpstone from fantasy.
Valrak: “Strap in!”
Me: “I’m ready for the strap!”
Wait, so blackstone is an anti chaos material… but the biggest chaos star bases are made out of it… huh?
As far as I’m aware, black stone has a polarity, which can be changed(?) so it can “negatively” charged and neuter the warp, or “positively” charged and enhance the warp
Need more Votaan lore goodness.
would love to get this in a video game
Remember when there were more xenos than just eldar, orks, tyranids and tau? Whatever happened to the ghoul stars?
Oh we got a mention Kin! Still waiting on a bloody novel though!
.......and the Yaegar release Lol
Send in the deathwatch. Please Gw this our time 😎
I love necrons. But I'm kin at hart! And as for every one with my valuable black stone...
Luck has.
Need keeps.
TOIL EARNS!
Hey!! Just a thought this is a cool storyline. Maybe this is a good theme for the return of BFG..?
Blackstone introduced in 8th? I bring your attention to the Blackstone Fortresses in Battlefleet Gothic
I mean the actual material where it was like Anti Chaos and they started to make weapons of it etc, I know about the fortress.
Finally, some aliens in my space opera
This could become a lore for a possible Battlefleet Gothic game if the rumour does happen?
"Luck has. Need keeps. Toil earns"
ROCK AND BLACKSTONE!
Man I was so pumped for squats I went out and bought some and then they just kicked them back to the bin. Glad we are going to get something for them. Votan are not xenos in my mind!
I assume you didn't literally dump your figures into the trash.
But they are Xenos confirmed and if they Imperium knew their culture they would declare all our war on them
Necrons should stomp the Leagues if the narrative doesn't get in the way.
We dwarfs are up for any challenges if there gold to be found
I really want games workshop to do the great crusade game.
Blackstone disappears and we get Krorks maybe???? :O
That was a good stream last night, and thanks for your input on Harlequins. Its a shame that Necrons never found their way into Blackstone Fortress, and GW has just been sitting that great game since 2020. I hope they have a follow up 40K Quest soon...
Boy Caught GW
Can't believe Valrak wants to forcibly neuter a Slanneshi daemon
Hot take: The Votann needs a character like Grombrindal or Gotrek
Oh boy, my Freebooterz mates are going overdrive with this new Waarrggh and loot!
The Silent King's situation is like playing Teclis in Immortal Empires. The Xenos going really into it is setting this place up nice I think though it will end with a Black hole sucking the sector into it.
Dude what would you rather be a custodeys or grey knight
Ahh... 1st waaagh, 2nd waaagh and elevenses!
Damn this is becoming a mosh pit of Xeno
Here's a potentially interesting future storyline for the Eldar: Through some kind of crazy scenario part of Slannesh are severed from itself as it tries to take too much power from the other ruinous powers and out comes the collective souls of a vast number of the non-hedonistic Eldar which form a new warp god which itself harbors the souls of fallen Eldar and can return them to living bodies safely and without for of Slannesh. Other Eldar Warp gods could also be saved from the clutches of the ruinous powers and be returned to a pantheon.
Everything is canon MUNNEH!!!
“Nepheelium” - Valrak 2024
Sounds like the Ork Meks have found a way to speedrun a new War of the Beast.
Pre-emptive rip to the Imperial Fists. May their like 26th founding version made after the current 4th founding chapter gets destroyed hold fast against the Green Tide
God, just please give us Dark Mechanicum along with Vasshtor, GW you fucks.
🐓 caging DARK ELDAR...lol
Neff-Uh-Lim
Are the squats or white scars more forgettable? Who does gw remember first?
BEST FEMALE TERTIARY 80 SOULS TRANSFORMER XENOS!
its less a situation of "the ennemy of my ennemy is my friend" and more of a "the ennemy of my ennemy is a bit less problematic in this situation, and i can let them mostly kill each other" i think
FreshOutoftheShowerRak
Lov book when?
Hopefully when they do a second wave of miniatures for them or something
Xenos lore!! Brother what has happened to u ? 😳 has the foil finally turn ur mind to madness , u are now madrak lol 😆
Drukhari should see the potential in blackstone for patching up the warp incursions into Commorragh surely. Also if it nullifies the drain Slaanesh has on their souls surely it would mean they don’t need to inflict suffering to survive when using blackstone. It seems like a win win scenario if that were the case, I don’t understand why they say they’re dying out in the sector.
Has the Tech War begun yet?
Probably waiting on Bill Shatner's say-so.
@@reverenddmo8944 They're gonna be arguing about that "h" for years.
Iron warriors were mentioned as having factoriums in real space in the orks codex. I assume they are seeding the iron warriors as a new faction
One Whagg yes but second Whagg
This is just bloody AoS Urgold...
Nef-full-lim
You're saying it in English, I say it in Low Gothic...
PURGE THE ALIEN!!!!!!
When you talk about xenos is blablabla yadda yadda yadda....
but when you say ORKS....stop everything and listening...cause waaagh is very very important...
🤪
No matter what Valrak does, he gets harassed. Im glad you have a good sense of humor.
Oh look at that back to busines as usual... that will surely fix the price increases.
premium waffle
LoV lore?? What!?!?!?
Where are the Necrons !!! you liar !! lol
Fighting Leagues of Votann xD
What?!?
Nefeelium?????
First??? Noo third…
Sorry leagues of vatann player.**
Theres only 1
Kinda falling out of love with Warhammer now.
Why invest so time and money when they’ll just lie and change everything with no explanation?
Blackstone existed and have this properties since old BattleFleet gothic.
Lazy retcons has always been a thing gw has done tbh the reason fem custodes got attention is bc culture war
Imagine putting Lelith Hesperax in a blackstone dungeon 🤣🥵💦💦
"you're mine now, mommy"
First
No T'au lore ? whats the point of 40k without new Tau Lore
There's no known Tau presence in the Nephilim sector
Tau is more localized
Which Xenos factions support identity politics? This is the question we should all be asking.
The latest dark Eldar book has a wych change gender identity
@@-Blackberry Activists have no place in this hobby. Keep your politics out of the lore. These authors should be fired by BL for this BS
Chapter Master............ It's pronouned NEFF - E - LUM. Write it down and remember it mate.
Wrong. Your saying it in English, I’m saying it in low gothic 😉
@@ChapterMasterValrak Touche