Note: you CAN make the stereo wheel straight while keeping the wheels straight, you just have to put the steering section together very slowly and with a lot of care to ensure the axels stay straight, and there is one point where the 16 tooth and 24 tooth gear are both perfectly straight, so you have to keep it there or it won’t work, and when attaching the wheels, that’s a whole different ball game. It will look like it won’t be straight, but if you set the 8 tooth gears up right it will work. Hope this helps!
Also, the instructions are wrong on step 44, follow how the piece is put in, not the 2 piece sub assembly Edit: I should have given more detail. You need to first put the main piece in, making sure the side meant for a pin is inserted onto the technic axel that is already on the car. Then, place the technic axel through the axel hole of the piece into the axel hole on the car. The way it shows the sun assembly being made, the suspension would break itself apart, so I thought I should add this to make it more clear
The nice thing is, there is a steering margin of error where the yoke will be straight but the bit left to go for it to be dead straight so both can be straight, you just have to take the time to do the steps that I stated above and it will work
Exactly he only highlights the important parts like snot building techniques,gear connections, gearboxes, lego motors, differentials, suspension, weird design choices and commentates over it i listen to his videos while playing
Sometimes less is more. I actually like the shaping of the smaller car better than the big one. Using a flex tube to represent coloured striping is so much more "lego" than using just more stickers. In terms of value for money, I know what I prefer!
Tires! Why do they keep getting these wrong?! If they're going to continue to make F1 cars, make different molds for the front and rear tires! Other than that, I like these two even though I'm not an F1 fan.
@@kihgu That's incorrect. The tires are always narrower at the front than they are at the rear. It's been the case for F1 for many decades. Mainly when they started to do mid-engine configurations. 🙂
@@kihgu Look up the 2023 model of this vehicle on the official Mercedes-AMG Petronas F1 site, the one the set is based on. It's the first image on the main page and the front tires are clearly narrower than the rear.
@@JustmeSean1971 They've been making bespoke pieces for sets for decades. They've also been making record profits the past few years, I think they can afford to include properly proportioned tires.
I'm not a big fan of F1 cars because they all tend to look exactly the same as one another except for the liveries, but I have to say I really love the big one here. The livery and shape were both well represented except for the rear tires being the same size as front.
There is a way to center the steering wheel, when installing the black 12 tooth gear on the steering rack have it be one tooth over rather than vertical.
I bought the pull back today, 42165. I am super happy because it reminds of a toy car as a kid. One of the reasons I bought this one over the other because it looks very accurate. Good value for the price, $35 CDN! 10/10
3:00 I have the 2 year old McLaren set and I managed to line up the steering wheel and the front wheels, it was mostly luck as I don't really have a method to how I did it.
@@RacingBrick me, you , we all, known these manuals aren’t always error free. And besides, it just looks weird anyway. No steering axle protrudes a steering wheel. But hey, it’s your car.
@@idonjohnson6999 if I change the setup compared to the manual, I'm sure some people will pop up and say that I'm trying to hide TLG's mistakes. That's the world we live in.
I love the sets! The small one is cute and looks nice for the scale And the big one is also very cool with the functions but I'm not so sold on some design choices
I know the Lego Technic Porsche 911 RSR set is 1 :10 scale and this Mercedes F1 car is 1: 8 scale. But are these new slick tires fit in 1:10 scale Technic cars?
Thanks for the review Balázs. It's a bit unfortunate that they made the same steering mistake they did with mclaren before. The good thing about the set is the slick rubber, the design of the engine compartment and the possibility of removing the engine cover. it looks like it has better suspension than the McLaren. For me personally, what is a no-go is the upper part of the first nose cone.
i really don't understand what lego has against making correct tyres for these sets. If you are making a new tyre for the cars and making them slick, you might as well make it correct, thankfully the tires on the Mercedes don't look bad but the mp4/4 was just violated. Anyways great review Balazs, as always?
Eh, I think I’d pick up the smaller one for the other 1:18 scale I have. I already have the Mclaren F1 car so I don’t think it’s a big enough change or improvement to make me want to have both. I do however like the removable engine cover. It’s like the 9X8. I’m not sure it’s better than the McLaren cut outs but they both work well. I am a Mercedes fan, we have a GLC300 and have had others over the last 15 years. Maybe in the future if I find it on sale I’ll get it
I got the 171 the day after release, it is probably the most beautiful set Ive ever assembled. the stickers was the biggest hurdle but they came out alright, im a little dissapointed with the rear wing and front nose flexibility so I might go back and stiffen them. I had a lot of fun considering its my first technic set, I cant wait for a ferrari or classic F1 or LMP sets
8:30 so your 42141's front suspension also lowered and bottom touches the ground now? Had a conversation with you in Facebook regarding this almost a year ago)
awesome video, i don't like F1 cars that much, but your Videos are always fun i must say, your whining about stickers is making me enjoy this year reviews MORE! it makes me giggle out load every time, especially after you pointed it out in the other video. Keep it up!
Well you should wait a day to watch the next video to see actual beautiful ... and properly offset ... and also PRINTED slick tires on the CaDA F1 car.
The suspension on the larger one reminds me of a similar build in an earlier set (set 42000) and I had issues with the axle connectors in the joints breaking. In that design I think they were under very slight stress constantly so it may not be an issue on the newer one.
Lego took a lot of flack on last year's McLaren tires. Now we get slick tires, so if we give them even more 'feedback', maybe next year we'll get a correct Red Bull or Ferrari F1 car. Or maybe Lego want's to continue their legacy of the F1 cars in the early 2000's, which all had the same width wheels.
While building the larger set I somehow got the steering wheel straight when the wheels are straight. I don't know how, it just lined up the first time.
If we go with a tread tire instead of slicks, is there a possible alternative part number already available? I built a 1/8 scale using a super car tire for the rear
The larger model looks phenomenal while the pull back looks like it would be right at home with the Speed Champions line up. Scale doesn't feel too far off. Not really a piece per price person and while it builds impressively big, and looks great the $285 Canadian feels a bit much for less than 2000 pieces. I feel this could be explained in the future video as $220 already feels quite steep.
A working DRS would be a nice. And NO stickers! Real F1 fans would love to pay more if it were printed parts. How much extra would that cost? Great review, thanks again! Personally I would prefer a Red Bull, specifically the white one, homage to Japan/Honda.
Are you going to take a look at the 42169 McLaren E Formula car (with the 2 pullback motors).? A comparison (parts, build techniques, features and motor performance) between 42165 and 42169 could be interesting.
i really love both sets. i don't really feel like becoming finantially unstable so i don't think i'll be getting the bigger set however i do like it more. i definitly wish they made the rear tires bigger than the fronts but i really don't mind it that much. also i'll always wish for more printed peices rather than having stickers but i'll survive.
The chassis of the large Mercedes looks very similar to most Lego f1 cars. It would be cool to do a comparison with the 42000 f1 car to see the similarities.
Great video as always. The build looks actually nicer in the video than the pictures. The one attention of detail that I really like is the red Mercedes logo. If I’m guessing it’s a singular small sticker and I’m sure it’s sort of painful to put it on
I prefer the pull-back version. I think it would look even better with the wheel caps in line with the tyre outsides. The large one doesn't have anything going over the Technic Williams I already have. The rear tyres should be wider, and at least some functional DRS-system. The non-aligning steering wheel looks bad. Glad I'm not a fan of Mercedes in F1. But I love your reviews!
Hi there I really like you reviews I am looking to get a wall mount made but need a picture of the 1:8 scale model underside if your able to help that would be great many thanks
Im halfway trough building this set and i noticed that the front wheels dont face front but they point a bit to each other Maybe because of the weight it wil straighten out? More people with this problem and maybe know how to fix it
Hello, I’ve done some research on than version and found that the wheels are NOT PRINTED on the real life version only the official one that raced has the print on the tires.
The bump on the nose doesn't look as pertruding as I thought, but the pictures by Lego didn't make it justice I believe. But I do have an issue with the front wing, it still looks too tall. I still like the overall build though.
Great video. I was waiting for this one so thank you. I do not care about non-racing cars so I never bothered with the big Technic cars but I really care about licensed racing cars so this is must have for me to add to the collection. I would personally prefer something from IMSA racing like Acura or Cadillac GTP or a GT3 car (Corvette would be awesome) but I guess F1 is also fine.
They should bring back the old Technic Racers theme, because I feel these sets just don’t fully fit into the Technic. Yes they’re made of Technic parts, but what else is there?
Great video, as always! I was afraid that the idea of merging the two videos would have a weird and confusing outcome, but in the end it appeared that the video was pure quality. Can't wait for tomorrow's release! If i'm not mistaken, there is a McLaren formula e pullback set, that would have also working steering. You've made a preview video quite some time ago, but we haven't heard of it in a long time. Have I lost anything or we will see it in the near future?
A little off topic but on topic of race cars. We have the tires from the tumbler and they are based off a hossier dirt tire. Why cant we get a dirt car when we have the parts
The first time I saw the techinic I got excited. Now... 220€ for 1600 pieces with small variety of pieces and a lot of stickers. I think will save to buy other sets
Hello! I would like to ask if you have any difficulties/problems with Lego. For example, there isn't assembly guide for an old set, there isn't a Lego store near you, or you can't get a specific Lego part. I am working on a mobile application that is meant to solva the problems of the Lego community. Any little thing could help a lot, thanks for you answers in advance!
Check out the local prices and availability in the LEGO Online Shop - racingbrick.com/product/42171-2/
Note: you CAN make the stereo wheel straight while keeping the wheels straight, you just have to put the steering section together very slowly and with a lot of care to ensure the axels stay straight, and there is one point where the 16 tooth and 24 tooth gear are both perfectly straight, so you have to keep it there or it won’t work, and when attaching the wheels, that’s a whole different ball game. It will look like it won’t be straight, but if you set the 8 tooth gears up right it will work. Hope this helps!
Also, the instructions are wrong on step 44, follow how the piece is put in, not the 2 piece sub assembly
Edit: I should have given more detail. You need to first put the main piece in, making sure the side meant for a pin is inserted onto the technic axel that is already on the car. Then, place the technic axel through the axel hole of the piece into the axel hole on the car. The way it shows the sun assembly being made, the suspension would break itself apart, so I thought I should add this to make it more clear
@@The_gaming_guy-z7a math doesn't lie, it still won't be straight
Yeah, I looked.
The nice thing is, there is a steering margin of error where the yoke will be straight but the bit left to go for it to be dead straight so both can be straight, you just have to take the time to do the steps that I stated above and it will work
I’m not a technic guy but I find your building reviews always so relaxing to watch and listen to!
Exactly he only highlights the important parts like snot building techniques,gear connections, gearboxes, lego motors, differentials, suspension, weird design choices and commentates over it i listen to his videos while playing
Sometimes less is more. I actually like the shaping of the smaller car better than the big one. Using a flex tube to represent coloured striping is so much more "lego" than using just more stickers.
In terms of value for money, I know what I prefer!
True
Tires! Why do they keep getting these wrong?! If they're going to continue to make F1 cars, make different molds for the front and rear tires! Other than that, I like these two even though I'm not an F1 fan.
The current f1 cars have identical wheels front and rear
@@kihgu That's incorrect. The tires are always narrower at the front than they are at the rear. It's been the case for F1 for many decades. Mainly when they started to do mid-engine configurations. 🙂
The reason this is the case is because if you make a separate mold for front and rear wheel is very costly for the company
@@kihgu Look up the 2023 model of this vehicle on the official Mercedes-AMG Petronas F1 site, the one the set is based on. It's the first image on the main page and the front tires are clearly narrower than the rear.
@@JustmeSean1971 They've been making bespoke pieces for sets for decades. They've also been making record profits the past few years, I think they can afford to include properly proportioned tires.
Finally!! I have waited so long for this video 😍😍😍
I really like your building reviews as they are detailed and great honestly 10/10
Your voice is so clear and it is very relaxing and your vids relieve stress after a long day of work! That’s why I will continue to LOVE your videos
Tak!
I'm not a big fan of F1 cars because they all tend to look exactly the same as one another except for the liveries, but I have to say I really love the big one here. The livery and shape were both well represented except for the rear tires being the same size as front.
Thanks!! Always a great and informative review!! Can't wait till the next one!!
Man, i really appreciate your reviews! Thanks!
There is a way to center the steering wheel, when installing the black 12 tooth gear on the steering rack have it be one tooth over rather than vertical.
Technically that's still not centered
You know you have subconsciously been waiting for this video to come out 🔥
I bought the pull back today, 42165. I am super happy because it reminds of a toy car as a kid. One of the reasons I bought this one over the other because it looks very accurate. Good value for the price, $35 CDN! 10/10
3:00 I have the 2 year old McLaren set and I managed to line up the steering wheel and the front wheels, it was mostly luck as I don't really have a method to how I did it.
It's the slack in the system
@@RacingBrickAh ok, but even then, it isn't as bad as shown in the video.
I think you should pull the steering wheel back so the axle doesn't protrude front the front. Makes for a more realistic look.
I could, but according to the manual it should look like this
@@RacingBrick me, you , we all, known these manuals aren’t always error free.
And besides, it just looks weird anyway. No steering axle protrudes a steering wheel.
But hey, it’s your car.
@@idonjohnson6999 if I change the setup compared to the manual, I'm sure some people will pop up and say that I'm trying to hide TLG's mistakes. That's the world we live in.
@@RacingBrick don't trust that people, your work is more important :)
I love the sets! The small one is cute and looks nice for the scale
And the big one is also very cool with the functions but I'm not so sold on some design choices
Great review. Disappointed Lego chose the W14, a car that didn't win a single race.
I know the Lego Technic Porsche 911 RSR set is 1 :10 scale and this Mercedes F1 car is 1: 8 scale. But are these new slick tires fit in 1:10 scale Technic cars?
I think that it would be great to put these slick tires on some fast rc car and test if it drifts.
Thanks for the review Balázs. It's a bit unfortunate that they made the same steering mistake they did with mclaren before. The good thing about the set is the slick rubber, the design of the engine compartment and the possibility of removing the engine cover. it looks like it has better suspension than the McLaren. For me personally, what is a no-go is the upper part of the first nose cone.
2:46 I got my front wheels and steering wheel centered. It was pretty easy to fix honestly
I would have loved to see the little speed champion in there for scale as well.
i really don't understand what lego has against making correct tyres for these sets. If you are making a new tyre for the cars and making them slick, you might as well make it correct, thankfully the tires on the Mercedes don't look bad but the mp4/4 was just violated.
Anyways great review Balazs, as always?
exactly every bit of that is true
@@Cosmic_Guy1ok
You know you have subconsciously been waiting for this video to come out
The Mercedes is a real step up from the McLaren 1.5 from two years ago.
Can we see the mclaren with the new slick tyres?
I have been waiting for this video for so long. LOVED IT!!!
Eh, I think I’d pick up the smaller one for the other 1:18 scale I have. I already have the Mclaren F1 car so I don’t think it’s a big enough change or improvement to make me want to have both. I do however like the removable engine cover. It’s like the 9X8. I’m not sure it’s better than the McLaren cut outs but they both work well. I am a Mercedes fan, we have a GLC300 and have had others over the last 15 years. Maybe in the future if I find it on sale I’ll get it
This makes me want to put together the speed champions version in my backlog.
I got the 171 the day after release, it is probably the most beautiful set Ive ever assembled. the stickers was the biggest hurdle but they came out alright, im a little dissapointed with the rear wing and front nose flexibility so I might go back and stiffen them. I had a lot of fun considering its my first technic set, I cant wait for a ferrari or classic F1 or LMP sets
These stickers are killing me!
Will there be maybe a sticker set or something for the tires from some third party site just to have the pirelli designs?
8:30 so your 42141's front suspension also lowered and bottom touches the ground now? Had a conversation with you in Facebook regarding this almost a year ago)
5:36 is the engine cover suppose to be loose after fit into main body?
Yasssss waiting for this one finally
awesome video, i don't like F1 cars that much, but your Videos are always fun
i must say, your whining about stickers is making me enjoy this year reviews MORE!
it makes me giggle out load every time, especially after you pointed it out in the other video.
Keep it up!
The new slick tires are so beautiful!
Well you should wait a day to watch the next video to see actual beautiful ... and properly offset ... and also PRINTED slick tires on the CaDA F1 car.
Great review as always! But the red alfa at the right? Can we expect a review of Cada model?
A comparison will be in the next video
The suspension on the larger one reminds me of a similar build in an earlier set (set 42000) and I had issues with the axle connectors in the joints breaking. In that design I think they were under very slight stress constantly so it may not be an issue on the newer one.
Lego took a lot of flack on last year's McLaren tires. Now we get slick tires, so if we give them even more 'feedback', maybe next year we'll get a correct Red Bull or Ferrari F1 car. Or maybe Lego want's to continue their legacy of the F1 cars in the early 2000's, which all had the same width wheels.
5:10 just put this part in but the gear on the top is stiff instead of turning the wheels and I have no clue what I did wrong
I have the same issue. 😐
Thank you for the steering wheel clarification, I was getting really frustrated lol
Mine is Aligned
@@maupeniche4840 How?
I have been waiting for this !!!
Even when the tires are off the car looks super cool in general. I will buy it on the second hand market someday.
HELLO Racing brick I’m a huge fan and keep it up
While building the larger set I somehow got the steering wheel straight when the wheels are straight. I don't know how, it just lined up the first time.
If we go with a tread tire instead of slicks, is there a possible alternative part number already available? I built a 1/8 scale using a super car tire for the rear
I remember, that some of the old f1's used very wide rear tires with wide rims from power puller wheels.
You should've put the Speed Champions version next to these! 😂 Great review as always!👍
I prefer the small one much more!!! XD
The larger model looks phenomenal while the pull back looks like it would be right at home with the Speed Champions line up. Scale doesn't feel too far off. Not really a piece per price person and while it builds impressively big, and looks great the $285 Canadian feels a bit much for less than 2000 pieces. I feel this could be explained in the future video as $220 already feels quite steep.
A working DRS would be a nice. And NO stickers! Real F1 fans would love to pay more if it were printed parts. How much extra would that cost?
Great review, thanks again!
Personally I would prefer a Red Bull, specifically the white one, homage to Japan/Honda.
Here we go!!! 🦾🏁
We NEED a comparison between the 42156 vs 76909 Please!
Are you going to take a look at the 42169 McLaren E Formula car (with the 2 pullback motors).?
A comparison (parts, build techniques, features and motor performance) between 42165 and 42169 could be interesting.
Bit of a shame that Lego seems incapable of making larger rear tyres
They look fantastic, a must for my collection … great video
Best design and glad that Petronas Syntium sticker here 😊😊😊😊😊
9:00 whats the car on the right???😮
Alfa romeo
i really love both sets. i don't really feel like becoming finantially unstable so i don't think i'll be getting the bigger set however i do like it more. i definitly wish they made the rear tires bigger than the fronts but i really don't mind it that much. also i'll always wish for more printed peices rather than having stickers but i'll survive.
The chassis of the large Mercedes looks very similar to most Lego f1 cars. It would be cool to do a comparison with the 42000 f1 car to see the similarities.
Great video as always. The build looks actually nicer in the video than the pictures. The one attention of detail that I really like is the red Mercedes logo. If I’m guessing it’s a singular small sticker and I’m sure it’s sort of painful to put it on
It was, especially because I thought I dropped it, was looking for it for about 10 minutes, and finally found it on the back of my hand
I cannot stop watching it. I love it and I love F1 racing. I have been convinced to buy it. That was a big swallow with money.
Glad they corrected the halo, that's why I never got the mc laren. Now next car should be a Red Bull please...
I prefer the pull-back version. I think it would look even better with the wheel caps in line with the tyre outsides.
The large one doesn't have anything going over the Technic Williams I already have. The rear tyres should be wider, and at least some functional DRS-system. The non-aligning steering wheel looks bad. Glad I'm not a fan of Mercedes in F1. But I love your reviews!
Can't wait to see the comparison to the other F1 sets!
I would like to see how these slick tires compare to the slick tires in the Senna set, in terms of size.
Hi there I really like you reviews I am looking to get a wall mount made but need a picture of the 1:8 scale model underside if your able to help that would be great many thanks
theres one on amazon for the smaller car
Im halfway trough building this set and i noticed that the front wheels dont face front but they point a bit to each other
Maybe because of the weight it wil straighten out?
More people with this problem and maybe know how to fix it
Hello, I’ve done some research on than version and found that the wheels are NOT PRINTED on the real life version only the official one
that raced has the print on the tires.
if you take off the gear behind the steering wheel you can rotate the shaft atleast thats how i did the mclaren
The bump on the nose doesn't look as pertruding as I thought, but the pictures by Lego didn't make it justice I believe. But I do have an issue with the front wing, it still looks too tall. I still like the overall build though.
Great video. I was waiting for this one so thank you. I do not care about non-racing cars so I never bothered with the big Technic cars but I really care about licensed racing cars so this is must have for me to add to the collection. I would personally prefer something from IMSA racing like Acura or Cadillac GTP or a GT3 car (Corvette would be awesome) but I guess F1 is also fine.
They should bring back the old Technic Racers theme, because I feel these sets just don’t fully fit into the Technic. Yes they’re made of Technic parts, but what else is there?
I have the big one in my waiting to be built pile, just need to finish my team new Zealand America's cup boat first.
surprisingly I did manage to center align the steering wheel with the front wheels
You can see why in the video, and also why it is not a real centering
@@RacingBrickYeah that makes sense but at least when I'm turning the god of hand steering it still stays centered so I'm happy
at least this one comes with an actual diff
Do you think Lego will release 1:8 F1 for all the racing teams over time?
CaDa Alfa coming up? Hope that doesn’t affect your access to early sets
Great video, as always! I was afraid that the idea of merging the two videos would have a weird and confusing outcome, but in the end it appeared that the video was pure quality. Can't wait for tomorrow's release! If i'm not mistaken, there is a McLaren formula e pullback set, that would have also working steering. You've made a preview video quite some time ago, but we haven't heard of it in a long time. Have I lost anything or we will see it in the near future?
The McLaren Formula E set will also be reviewed, there are simply too many releases for March :)
Which is the Formula 1 car on the right at 9:06 ?
CaDA C64005W Alfa Romeo Racing
That misaligned steering wheel...perhaps Lego is planning a "Hunter Engineering" wheel alignment machine set.
great video,love the car and building concepts used,could have made bigger rear end wheels
A little off topic but on topic of race cars. We have the tires from the tumbler and they are based off a hossier dirt tire. Why cant we get a dirt car when we have the parts
Great review! Can't wait for tomorrow's rant, I mean objective comparison. ;)
How does the Pull-Back version compare to the McLaren Speed Champions F1 car from the other day, and the Mercedes F1 W12 Speed Champions (76909)?
Yuppi its finally comes:)
Finally🎉🎉🎉🎉 Whoo!!!!
Amazing job with creating those difficult shapes Lego…. But for the love of god mold different size tires!
I assume it will still have the sagging suspension issue that the McLaren had? Mine is sitting on the shelf literally now lol
What’s that car over there 👀 9:00
Beautiful AMG 1:8, but I'll wait(...) for the Red Bull RB19...
can the slicks from this set be used on the other racecars in this scale like the 9x8 or the 2 GTE/GT3s?
The 9x8 is not the same scale, that's a 1:10 car, the F1 is 1:8
@@RacingBrick bummer, I thought it was, thanks for response though!
I have 3 extra pieces after the first stage did i do something wrong or are they extra pieces
When was the last time we had a working steering wheel in Technic (not 1:8 supercar)? Seems a rarity these days
The first time I saw the techinic I got excited. Now... 220€ for 1600 pieces with small variety of pieces and a lot of stickers. I think will save to buy other sets
Hello! I would like to ask if you have any difficulties/problems with Lego. For example, there isn't assembly guide for an old set, there isn't a Lego store near you, or you can't get a specific Lego part. I am working on a mobile application that is meant to solva the problems of the Lego community. Any little thing could help a lot, thanks for you answers in advance!
Compare it with the 1:8 supercar lineup
If they can make the smaller one's tyres smaller, like the Mack LR's one
How would the models look if you swap 2 narrow tires from the MP4/4 with 2 of these wide tires?
Very different scale