I'm in the market for a 2080 ti and have wondered whether to get the 3 fan (AIB) or FE so this is just the discussion I wanted to hear. Thanks for discussing it.
I've been using founders edition cards since the GTX 780 Ti. They're not OC monsters but I like the designs and they seem to keep much more of their value in the long run as hardware collectors tend to prefer the original designs. I'm using the cards in Dell Precision workstations and the founders edition cards fit the professional look of these systems a lot better than 3rd party boards. Also, larger 3rd party card usually don't even physically fit in these workstation cases. When you want a fancy card with RGB light effects and extreme overlocking, get your custom AIB monster. If you want a reliable, professionally designed card that runs rock solid and just works, get the FE card.
Another reason to get a 30-Series Founders Edition: They're just damn beautiful cards. Whoever designed them deserves an award. If Nvidia would make more of them available, I would absolutely get one. But I really think one of the reasons they're not letting them go is because they're not making any money off of them with the pricing locked down. They'd rather steer you towards the scalped AIBs so they can split the profit with the manufacturers. How is it that everybody else has AIB RTX cards but nothing at all from Best Buy and Nvidia proper? I think this next time around they need to put the Founders Edition with a lot more vendors than just Best Buy since they ended up taking advantage of their exclusivity to shake down buyers with that TotalTech crap. They need to pay a price for that.
I love the FE cards they are a work of art. I have the GTX 1080 Ti. It may not overclock much but at stock settings it's whisper quiet. Love this card still running to this day
Absolutely. The quality of construction and subsequent reliability is second to none. I have never had a founders edition go bad whereas I've had to RMA several board partner GPUs.
Definitely prefer the Founders Editions, they are just so solid and look so good, not to mention the fact they cost so much less. If I were not getting Founders the only other one i'd be interested in is EVGA. Forget overpriced MSI and ASUS, and poorly built Gigabyte. Loving my 3080tiFE and 3080FE
I am watching this video on my Lian LI Q58 SFF build I have a 3080ti FE with a 5900x, and I am using my Sony 85j as a 4k monitor. (Yes temps are cool I did a case mod, basically moved the GPU closer to the vent.)
So my Best Buy today had one of the larger FE drops I've seen in a while. They had 2 of each card including 3060ti, 3070, 3070ti, 3080(Yay) and 3080ti(not shocked). I got to the store 10 minute before opening and was 4th in line(3rd wanting GPU). Turned out that while the guy first in line got a 3080, the 2nd guy assumed(you know how that turns out) that there was only one 3080 and asked for the 3070. I asked if they had more than one and was told they had 2 of each and I'd take the 2nd 3080. Let's just say the guy ahead of me was NOT happy!. Meanwhile the guy behind me was ecstatic that he was able to get a 3070 as well. The 3060ti has since disappeared from the app but the 3080ti and 3070ti are still available 8 hours later.
I love my 3090 FE, I have had AIB cards, they run cooler. Pretty much you will sacrifice quality and uniqueness for some more noise. Sounds like a jet at 90% fan curve. Headphones on can barely hear the card. I would choose a Founder’s Edition again!
and the overall cooler design - its so so beautiful and exciting. all AIB models are boring 3 fan model...including AMD. Only Nvidia does something unique and that alone is worth everything!
I tried buying a Founders edition since release. Im still running a 970 Gtx and desperatly want a 3080Ti. Saved a few years for it aswell. I gave up trying a few months ago, every single time they are out of stock when i check on the site of Nvidia.
3080ti is one of the most frequent Founders Edition GPUs I see in stock at Best Buy. I would say give it another try, as the market has changed dramatically recently.
Got the 3090 ti FE simply because of the design and size (friggin love BIG GPUs), also it’s selling for a cheaper price that’s comparable to an OG 3090. Compared to those who paid over $2K for 3090s a few months ago, it’s not the worst thing.
@@Camelotsmoon not in Australia. Mwave was the only retailer to get any, and they only got 1 batch at launch. They ran a lottery to be able to buy one on launch day.
In southern California, you can feasibly buy 60 Tis and 3070/3070 TI FE cards without having to stay overnight or super-rush over to the Best Buy store. That’s from my experience the past week and a half so far
@@b1806 I literally picked one up earlier despite it being in stock from opening until like 6 PM after work. 3080 FEs are still hard to get if u don’t camp or super rush to the store for it, but it’s been an easier time to find 60 Ti, 70, and 70 Ti FE cards
@@unknownposter2075 this is true.I work here and we just got a shipment of 20+ founders edition gpus and we only keep them in the back so nobody knows we have them… check your local best buy
The Strix Variants are the best PCB because of VRM, but If I had seen the Founders I maybe would have chosen the founders considering it was cheaper. I get a bit more clock speed at same temps though. 1850 mhz without overclocking myself. I could maybe do 1900 mhz or even 1950 if I wanted but its pretty oc'd already and stable. I have a 3080 ti strix. Build Zoid did PCB reviews of GPU's
Great explanation here. Tiago do you remember what the warranty is for Founders edition cards and is that warranty taken care of through Best Buy. Did you or can you buy an extended warranty through Best Buy. Keep up the outstanding coverage.
Another option is the AMD reference cards from AMD direct. Per fixitfixitfixit on youtube they tend to drop them around 9:54am on thursday. Last thursday I got lucky and got a 6800 XT for $649 plus tax ($700 delivered). Beginners luck on the drop.
Bit late for this video but i plan on buying the 4090FE simply because its the smalles non watercooled 4090 and there for the only one that will fit inside my fractal north case
I wish I could find a 3080 FE, My local Best Buy isn't one of the stores that get them, only select Best Buy stores gets them. My local Best Buy only carries AMD cards, and all of those are open air. my case is designed for a pusher style card, and being that the FE is sort of a hybrid it's the one I want to get as a open air style cooler just doesn't do well in my case. That's really the only thing I need to finish my build, it currently has a 1660 Super in it and it was only meant to be temporary.
I remember not so long ago, nvidia founders edition GPUs were asociated with bad cooling system, untill the RTX series came out. Looks like once they realised how absurd their turbine-based cooling system was
Expecting to pay $700 for that car is ludicrous. We know while all the 3000 cards are overpriced, this one should have been $850 considering where all other 3080's are priced, and the ti. Furthermore, the 3080 FE is a beast at mining, so for a long time the 3080 FE was worth MORE than a 3080 ti FE
You must be very disappointed and not ready to try to get a 3080 anymore. You will not and cannot get one u less you are stupid lucky or wait in line for stupid hours
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I bought a Gigabyte rtx 3060 ti eagle 8gb, card is good but the built quality is very bad, it runs hotter to 87c and full of plastic I'm thinking to changing it, the 2nd option is rtx 3060ti Founder edition. Pls help
Let me recap what you said, original founders edition had one fan and overheated. The improvement had two fans and the cooling is "fairly efficient" but it's not going to match a third party edition. But they look unique and built really well. Really well? How can it be really well and have fair efficiency? With all do respect Sir, I disagree. I'll wait for a 3rd party 3080 Ti GPU like Asus Strix. Better cooling, hand picked components and they'll come down below MSRP in a couple of months. Founders edition are cheaper and for a good reason. You get what you pay for . . . a little bit better than not overheating doesn't cut it for me. I'll pass of founder's edition!
They are cheaper because it’s sold directly by nvidia - and the new coolers are pretty good too, only a really good 3rd party cooler will beat it generally if you consider the typically smaller size on the FE too
While I enjoy your videos, lately these messages are no help for people potentially interested in the GPU market. It feels like your view changes from week to week from don't buy a GPU to now's a good time to buy a GPU. I already have a 3080 which I bought retail maybe a year and a half ago now, however, for those interested that haven't had the opportunity to upgrade yet, it's a bit of a rollercoaster.
I know, I’ve been just trying to follow the trajectory of the GPU market, it changes literally every week and sometimes even day to day, so it’s very organic but I know it can be frustrating. Thanks for the comment
I'm in the market for a 2080 ti and have wondered whether to get the 3 fan (AIB) or FE so this is just the discussion I wanted to hear. Thanks for discussing it.
That FE is great, they’re one of my favorites!
@@ernestwinslow7316 Yes, but those are seriously over priced. One for $1100 and one for $1300. No thanks.
@@phillipgerringer9822 I believe I saw some going for $729 on their store today. Running there to confirm again
@@phillipgerringer9822 My bad, I must have mistook 2080 super for the Ti.
Yes $1100-$1300 is indeed expensive
@@ernestwinslow7316 Its all cool. Thanks for looking. I'll just keep my eye on the used card market.
I've been using founders edition cards since the GTX 780 Ti. They're not OC monsters but I like the designs and they seem to keep much more of their value in the long run as hardware collectors tend to prefer the original designs.
I'm using the cards in Dell Precision workstations and the founders edition cards fit the professional look of these systems a lot better than 3rd party boards. Also, larger 3rd party card usually don't even physically fit in these workstation cases.
When you want a fancy card with RGB light effects and extreme overlocking, get your custom AIB monster.
If you want a reliable, professionally designed card that runs rock solid and just works, get the FE card.
Another reason to get a 30-Series Founders Edition: They're just damn beautiful cards. Whoever designed them deserves an award.
If Nvidia would make more of them available, I would absolutely get one. But I really think one of the reasons they're not letting them go is because they're not making any money off of them with the pricing locked down. They'd rather steer you towards the scalped AIBs so they can split the profit with the manufacturers. How is it that everybody else has AIB RTX cards but nothing at all from Best Buy and Nvidia proper?
I think this next time around they need to put the Founders Edition with a lot more vendors than just Best Buy since they ended up taking advantage of their exclusivity to shake down buyers with that TotalTech crap. They need to pay a price for that.
I agree, they are definitely beautiful GPUs and I wish there were more of them!
Design was by PNY, who also manufacture nVidia's Quadro cards.
I love the FE cards they are a work of art. I have the GTX 1080 Ti. It may not overclock much but at stock settings it's whisper quiet. Love this card still running to this day
AIB's make their own PCB's nvidia sell them dies and kits but the board is usually unique in power distribution and in 30 series vent holes
Would you choose a Founders Edition GPU over another option?
Absolutely. The quality of construction and subsequent reliability is second to none. I have never had a founders edition go bad whereas I've had to RMA several board partner GPUs.
Definitely prefer the Founders Editions, they are just so solid and look so good, not to mention the fact they cost so much less. If I were not getting Founders the only other one i'd be interested in is EVGA. Forget overpriced MSI and ASUS, and poorly built Gigabyte. Loving my 3080tiFE and 3080FE
I am watching this video on my Lian LI Q58 SFF build I have a 3080ti FE with a 5900x, and I am using my Sony 85j as a 4k monitor. (Yes temps are cool I did a case mod, basically moved the GPU closer to the vent.)
So my Best Buy today had one of the larger FE drops I've seen in a while. They had 2 of each card including 3060ti, 3070, 3070ti, 3080(Yay) and 3080ti(not shocked). I got to the store 10 minute before opening and was 4th in line(3rd wanting GPU). Turned out that while the guy first in line got a 3080, the 2nd guy assumed(you know how that turns out) that there was only one 3080 and asked for the 3070. I asked if they had more than one and was told they had 2 of each and I'd take the 2nd 3080. Let's just say the guy ahead of me was NOT happy!. Meanwhile the guy behind me was ecstatic that he was able to get a 3070 as well. The 3060ti has since disappeared from the app but the 3080ti and 3070ti are still available 8 hours later.
I definitely would but where do I find one🤷🏽♂️
I love my 3090 FE, I have had AIB cards, they run cooler. Pretty much you will sacrifice quality and uniqueness for some more noise. Sounds like a jet at 90% fan curve. Headphones on can barely hear the card. I would choose a Founder’s Edition again!
and the overall cooler design - its so so beautiful and exciting. all AIB models are boring 3 fan model...including AMD. Only Nvidia does something unique and that alone is worth everything!
i never owned a Founders/Reference GPU & i'd buy that over the custom ones
right not FE 30' series or the *MSI sprim* looks soooo beautiful
It's honestly amazing how much work those 1080 Ti owners got out of that card... if I went back in time, I would've bought that damn card lol.
I tried buying a Founders edition since release. Im still running a 970 Gtx and desperatly want a 3080Ti. Saved a few years for it aswell.
I gave up trying a few months ago, every single time they are out of stock when i check on the site of Nvidia.
3080ti is one of the most frequent Founders Edition GPUs I see in stock at Best Buy. I would say give it another try, as the market has changed dramatically recently.
Got the 3090 ti FE simply because of the design and size (friggin love BIG GPUs), also it’s selling for a cheaper price that’s comparable to an OG 3090. Compared to those who paid over $2K for 3090s a few months ago, it’s not the worst thing.
Let me zip out and grab one.
Oh wait they don't sell them in Australia.
We got a dozen founders 3080s at launch, and that's it.
Ah 😞
One of those crypto miners got pretty lucky to fill half his GPU racks.
@@Camelotsmoon not in Australia. Mwave was the only retailer to get any, and they only got 1 batch at launch.
They ran a lottery to be able to buy one on launch day.
I like my Evga Ftw3 Rtx 2080. Might go for a Founders edition 4080 or 4080TI since I always found the look of cards to be better than the AIB models.
In southern California, you can feasibly buy 60 Tis and 3070/3070 TI FE cards without having to stay overnight or super-rush over to the Best Buy store. That’s from my experience the past week and a half so far
Nice!
wait really? I'm going to pick up a 30ti this week thank you
@@b1806 I literally picked one up earlier despite it being in stock from opening until like 6 PM after work. 3080 FEs are still hard to get if u don’t camp or super rush to the store for it, but it’s been an easier time to find 60 Ti, 70, and 70 Ti FE cards
@@unknownposter2075 this is true.I work here and we just got a shipment of 20+ founders edition gpus and we only keep them in the back so nobody knows we have them… check your local best buy
@@JayJay-rh7pl y'all backdoor so hard
The Strix Variants are the best PCB because of VRM, but If I had seen the Founders I maybe would have chosen the founders considering it was cheaper. I get a bit more clock speed at same temps though. 1850 mhz without overclocking myself. I could maybe do 1900 mhz or even 1950 if I wanted but its pretty oc'd already and stable. I have a 3080 ti strix. Build Zoid did PCB reviews of GPU's
Yeah the Asus Strix and Founders are the best versions hands down.
They gone online only couple stranglers in stores.
Great explanation here. Tiago do you remember what the warranty is for Founders edition cards and is that warranty taken care of through Best Buy. Did you or can you buy an extended warranty through Best Buy. Keep up the outstanding coverage.
Thanks! I think nvidia has their own warranty for it, but Best Buy total tech may have some coverage too
@@ClassicalTechnology no total coverage sadly
Love my 3080 ti fe
Nice!
I love the 30 and 40 FE design so much, but they’re too expensive in my country 😢
I got a 3070ti FE from BB yesterday. It's f'n gorgeous
And how it's working.?
As a long time PC gamer and Disney fan, I have to call Nvidia's RTX 3000 Founders Edition series the Flounder Edition (Disney pun intended).
Lol 😀
Another option is the AMD reference cards from AMD direct. Per fixitfixitfixit on youtube they tend to drop them around 9:54am on thursday. Last thursday I got lucky and got a 6800 XT for $649 plus tax ($700 delivered). Beginners luck on the drop.
Who sold Founders Edition cards? I was never aware you could buy them, but people have them.
Best Buy sold them
i am definitely going for founders edition next time i upgrade
Bit late for this video but i plan on buying the 4090FE simply because its the smalles non watercooled 4090 and there for the only one that will fit inside my fractal north case
Actually the North can take every 4090 card, even the Strix! Still the FE is a great choice :)
I wish I could find a 3080 FE, My local Best Buy isn't one of the stores that get them, only select Best Buy stores gets them. My local Best Buy only carries AMD cards, and all of those are open air.
my case is designed for a pusher style card, and being that the FE is sort of a hybrid it's the one I want to get as a open air style cooler just doesn't do well in my case. That's really the only thing I need to finish my build, it currently has a 1660 Super in it and it was only meant to be temporary.
RTX 3060 Ti
but i cant find any of these "founder style" for sale anywere, nvidias website dont have them. im in EU
Do you recommend the founder edition to render, do they get very hot?
I remember not so long ago, nvidia founders edition GPUs were asociated with bad cooling system, untill the RTX series came out. Looks like once they realised how absurd their turbine-based cooling system was
Great video
We been dreaming about FE for a 2y and you ask us -" Would we go for it ?"
I would have bought a 3080 FE but I am not paying more than msrp. I will wait for 4000 series, looks like I will need a new psu to run that.
Expecting to pay $700 for that car is ludicrous. We know while all the 3000 cards are overpriced, this one should have been $850 considering where all other 3080's are priced, and the ti. Furthermore, the 3080 FE is a beast at mining, so for a long time the 3080 FE was worth MORE than a 3080 ti FE
You must be very disappointed and not ready to try to get a 3080 anymore. You will not and cannot get one u less you are stupid lucky or wait in line for stupid hours
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I bought a Gigabyte rtx 3060 ti eagle 8gb, card is good but the built quality is very bad, it runs hotter to 87c and full of plastic I'm thinking to changing it, the 2nd option is rtx 3060ti Founder edition. Pls help
How did we know you'd already have your grubby little paws on a 3090 Ti?!?!😅
😇
My Best Buy has them in stock near me
Let me recap what you said, original founders edition had one fan and overheated. The improvement had two fans and the cooling is "fairly efficient" but it's not going to match a third party edition. But they look unique and built really well. Really well? How can it be really well and have fair efficiency? With all do respect Sir, I disagree. I'll wait for a 3rd party 3080 Ti GPU like Asus Strix. Better cooling, hand picked components and they'll come down below MSRP in a couple of months. Founders edition are cheaper and for a good reason. You get what you pay for . . . a little bit better than not overheating doesn't cut it for me. I'll pass of founder's edition!
They are cheaper because it’s sold directly by nvidia - and the new coolers are pretty good too, only a really good 3rd party cooler will beat it generally if you consider the typically smaller size on the FE too
well below 399.99
no more evga is leavin the chat
how the hell can they get away with cooling the 4090 with only one dinky fan
While I enjoy your videos, lately these messages are no help for people potentially interested in the GPU market. It feels like your view changes from week to week from don't buy a GPU to now's a good time to buy a GPU. I already have a 3080 which I bought retail maybe a year and a half ago now, however, for those interested that haven't had the opportunity to upgrade yet, it's a bit of a rollercoaster.
I know, I’ve been just trying to follow the trajectory of the GPU market, it changes literally every week and sometimes even day to day, so it’s very organic but I know it can be frustrating. Thanks for the comment
FE edition better resale value most of the time.
"evga" 💀
Yeah buy at best buy founder Edition. Cheapest🤔🤗🤗is
: D time to throw away 6700xt 6800xt 6900xt. 🤔🤗🤗. Way to Exp. Time for rtx 4070 4080. 🤗
Welp crypto died lol but nonetheless i doubt theyll lose any value even by the time the next era of graphics cards come out
Founders Edition GPUs are more expensive here in EU!
They’re typically harder to find in the EU, so that makes sense unfortunately