Charlotte Dujardin and Pete shine as the unbeatable pair! | FEI Dressage World Cup™ London
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- Опубликовано: 13 дек 2023
- Dazzling duo Charlotte Dujardin and Imhotep steal the show in the FEI Dressage World Cup at The London International Horse Show! 🌟 Watch the magic unfold as they deliver a winning performance that defines equestrian excellence! 🏆🐴 #FEIDressageWorldCup #FEIDressage #PursuitOfPerfection
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You hypocrites bash the men but give the women a free ride! She is horrible! That hold on the horses head is abuse! She deserves to be charged with animal abuse!!
You should update your judging requirements to comply with the facts available for Equine welfare. If it breaks the code, it should be excused and not placed, let alone praised.
Hyperflexion should be auto eliminated imo as should any horse showing consistent grimace scale signs.
This was not the worst run but still has some concerns with
-stress eye + whale eye
- chomping bit
- flat chin
- ear set
If you believe differently, then I suggest you educate the public on any conflicting information you have to address concerns or misinformation
I don't enjoy it thanks.
When the announcer is quiet for most of the test, you know they're doing well! ❤ Great job Charlotte!
Her baby daughter watching her mom at the end 😭❤️ congratulations Charlotte! You’re amazing!
wow, Imhotep can move his jaws unlike many others who are so clamped down with the crank nosebands... Thanks Charlotte, we of the Horse First community appreciate that.
This horse is incredible,he has such presence!
Beautiful, I got goose bumps watching this beauty! Carol from 🍁
Charlotte is a real champion, and her horse has not only the name of a pharaoh, he is a real king. 👍🎄
Imhotep was a vizier not a pharaoh.
@@molybdomancer195 yes, You're right, he was even more, they named him a God, because he was medico, astrologo, physician, architect and engeneer,but not a pharaoh.🎄
The Queen is back!
I loved that! She's a lovely rider, her horses always look like they could go out hunting or eventing; I like her type of horse, they really give her their all in comps! Only happy horses do that and hers aren't hollowed out through the back and behind the poll, she's a great roll model for aspiring young riders and amazing ambassador of our country and GB equestrian.
How the horse knows to walk one way before and during competition and as soon as it is over, walk normally!! Horses are underated in their intelligence. Lord knows how this is taught.
Years of careful muscle building and cues. Everything the horse does is a response to the rider’s cue. The real skill is making the cues so subtle as to be invisible.
Horses can read the mind of the rider, if they have one.
the little pat on 5:34 broke my heart 🩷 Charlotte is my inspiration of a quiet gentle rider, definitely Carl Hester is a great influence at holistic horse keeping, yet they do high level dressage. impressive! especially this horse id only 10 y.o., still a newbie in GP! they look nice together
Not trying to be rude but you cant put Charlotte and ,,gentle rider” in the same sentace. Shes the opposite of that.
@@nobody_here989 Sentence !
@@alicecopsey7789 english isnt my first language. Sorry for not knowing it perfectly.
@@nobody_here989 I’m not at all convinced you are a horse person ? Do you ride or own horses ?
@@alicecopsey7789 I do ride, for 9 years now.
her talent is just insane❤🎉❤❤❤❤❤❤
What can I say, beautiful!!!! Bravo!
beautiful? absolutely horror! poor horse!
Excellent command and control,
Wow, the time and effort that goes into this is amazing, I'm glad that it all pays off in the end, you can see it wen every thing goes as planned. Great performance. 😁😁😁😁
Too bad these horses are trained too earlier for flashyness and not correctness. This isn't very nice to watch. Truely beautiful dressage can be seen from the spanish riding school of vienne
@@cardinalfox0734.
You only have to look at his back to see how strong it is because hes working over his back correctly. She hasnt just pulled his head in.
He's 10 years old and this was his first show indoors i believe, so what if she has him a bit rounder than normal in some parts. She gives with her inside hand all the time and her curb rein isn't tight.
Well that was a great assesment.
Well said! Her horses move freely because they are free to do so. You can see the hind end jump into each stride because there is always a space to move into. She uses her body so well that her hands are often there only to "hold the gloves."
@@sharron2650 Exactly. She constantly puts her hands forward to encourage self carriage.
Beautiful!! I sure do miss Valergo in these competitions but “Imhotep” is just as good🫶
Stunning!
Magnifique ! Du rythme et de la grâce ! 👍👍
Nice to see a dressage horse looking relaxed.
How is that relaxed!? After she let go of her death grip the horse was relaxed
@@SnoopPop-sb7cd Off to Specsavers for you 🤣
@@alicecopsey7789 girl what?
@@alicecopsey7789 the horse is foaming at the mouth
@@alicecopsey7789 I swear people are so stupid
Amazing rider!
Not as bad as previous rider, Pete has a very relaxed tail
AMAZING
Absolutely beautiful and amazing
This beautiful horse looked like he was having fun!
Yes, he did! Happy expressive tail, happy chewing mouth, foam thicker than shaving cream! It made me quite happy to watch this exciting partnership.
@@sharron2650are you being sarcastic?
@@SnoopPop-sb7cdwondering the same thing, as those are all signs of distress in a horse…
He loves his job for sure!
The horse and rider are both talented very much so
Very nice job.
Breath taking I would love to be there
lovely, I just wish she opened the frame a bit more
Apparently this was his first big show indoors. I imagine she might have had him a bit rounder than normal.
His first indoor. So important for a young horse to have a positive experience. The frame seemed to have a good thundershirt effect. I loved seeing his tail go from obedient to relaxed to expressive.
Brilliant partnership again for Charlotte, so pleased for her, but everyone was impressive in this competition, tbh.
Behind the vertical is now the norm sadly spectacular horse though
I was noticing that too! Why?
@@Fubar2024 they lost the definition of dressage. It's now about spectacular movements and round necks. And then Charlotte is actually one of the few that have the horse in a kind of okayish frame.
If you are judging the vertical as being along the front of the face, you are incorrect. The vertical line actually runs from the poll to the horses mouth. This means that the shape of the horse's head is going to influence whether the face is vertical or not. Even from this perspective, what you said is unfortunately accurate. In reference to this horse, I do not believe it holds true.
Magnificent! Brings tears to my eyes
Clearly the horse is enjoying it
Well Done
❤ Charlotte
The Best Ever ❤
1:29 the way the horse drools❤😂
Amazing work, both of you! 🙌🏻❤️ 8:22
I know this is probably an unpopular opinion but I much preferred her old ride freestyle. Freestyle was such a lovely mare
From short in the neck to Orthopedic shoeing front and hind. And in between, an unhappy stressed athlete. He does not open his frame in the extended trot and canter. In the piaffe there is to much weight on his shoulder. Not my favorite.
Moody on Jagerbomb was great with that "Sexbomb" music. Always in a good frame, light in contact and in front of the vertical. 🤩🐴💫💯
Too short in the neck at the trot. Got much better through the test though.
The keys to correct shoeing are balance - side-to-side, medial-to-lateral, toe-to-heel, interior-to-posterior, and hoof pastern angles. We look at establishing and maintaining support so the horse's foot is underneath the center of gravity of the leg. That is what the goals are as far as what is correct for the horse," says Mark Martinelli, former farrier and now a DVM and orthopedic surgeon, University of Illinois.
Through careful assessment of a horse, a good farrier can provide the animal with shoes that enhance his movement and balance. "We promote or facilitate the movement," explains Martinelli, "that is, allowing the movement to occur as easily as possible for the entire leg, including the foot, as opposed to trying to stop and change that movement at the foot level."
Imhotep has a short neck period....
Very forward ride!
Это было великолепно!!! Чисто, гармонично и талантливо.
I just watched Butters and his horse Melancholy perform dressage on Season 25 Episode 4 "Back to the Cold War" on South Park.
It's hard to follow Velegro but Pete is doing well!
Finally a horse that masters a decent piaffe, unlike most of the other candidates. Way better than the much acclaimed Isabel Werth.
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
BRAVO you two!!!! AMAZING!!!
Dressage divas in the comments 😮
Not so many Charlotte fans as usual 🤔
Some of the comments are so useless even as a horsey person I can’t make sense of some people’s comments they are just quite funny to read
Apparently they’re all FEI qualified judges
It is not a compliment to be a qualified FEI judge these days. That train has left the station and you seem to be left behind.
when fei qualified judges start penalising for being behind the vertical we can start respecting them again, giving top marks to people with big names but underdeveloped horses is why the sport is in shambles. @@molybdomancer195
I love this queen!
Of course its Charlotte and Imhotep they are beautiful to watch and I have much respect. I dont find this horse as electric or fancy as Glamourdale/ He seems to know his job and performs nicely but, for me just doesnt have the pizzazz. Just my opinion.
Glamourdale always looks rushed to me and never on a light contact or in true self carriage. He does have spectacular movement of course.
Must disagree. This horse is superior.
how do they get a horse to do all those moves is a total mystery to me .would love to know their secret
When winning horses are with gaping mouths, it says a lot about FEI.
Not once did this horse gape at the mouth!
@@user-fe7mg5ot9z11 times in the first 10 seconds ://
He didn't open his mouth at all.
That horse looks cranked in and tight, not like it's stretching and lifted or enjoying itself. The piaff has a foot routinely has left on the ground? When did that become correct? Lot of riders do it now though.. They didn't used to and how many times exactly did the horse drop behind the vertical or look like it was about to fall on its face? And sorry not sorry, I never have liked this woman's hands. I cannot understand how she seems to keep doing better than Carl when he's a much nicer, better rider.
Personally I liked Jagerbomb and his rider bedt by far
Surprised at comment's . Wondering if ppl. Criticize Western Style Events this way .
yes, all the time.
Absolutely
Yes the top trainers at the top levels in western and gaited horse disiplines are just as cruel and inhumane just to win. I have seen them tie a horses head up to the ceiling for hours so they would keep their heads down in their class. Have seen gaited horses with blocks on their feet to make them lift their legs higher up. As long as prestige and money are involved people will do anything to win at the horses agony and expense. I have even seen it at cattle work practices too. It never ceases to amaze me how cruelly some people treat such a noble animal.
Oh truly we all are abusers of our horses don't care for them right. I'm a State Champion and hear that and more. If my horses weren't taken care of right it be hard to win any event
I wish the FEI spent more than a once over on their tack checks, it is so clear that a lot of these top horses are held way to tight against the bit and it goes ignored. I love this pair but they aren't the saviours people think they are, charlotte is amazing but she is currently failing this horse. Short neck, blue tongue and pushing on the forehand that ruins it for me.
Just because a rider is milder than others, doesn't mean they do well by their horse.
Total eng im Hals, nie vor der Senkrechten, besonders im Schritt steife Hinterhand, fester Rücken. Schade, Valegro ging immer sehr entspannt, er nicht, alles wirkt sehr angestrengt.
Ja, wirkt fest und angespannt. Sehr eng gestellt.
You can see his tongue?
please go look at pictures the FEI are using of the horse, look at the close-up of his head. @@slidenapps
Of course they can't. They are just bitter nobodies who like to make sh** up.
Is it a horse or mare , indeed very obedient
His stable name is Pete.. So no,he's not a mare 😂
Just a query from an ignorant horse lover , but is that bouncing gait unnatural for a horse to maintain ? I’ve seen a horse bouncing around in short bursts !
The piaffe is a collected movement that is natural for horses, a correct piaffe the horse is collecting under itself and pushing from it's hind. The movement shown in tests recently isn't very natural for the horse however.
All movements in dressage are meant to benefit and develop a horses strength and muscle, but you won't see a whole lot in the grand prix ring. I recomend watching performances from the late 70's to 2000.
Does anyone else watching have a sense that Imhotep has a problem with his left front leg, the one without the white sock? I almost wince every time he steps on it during certain maneuvers! I feel like something is going to snap, like it is weaker than the rest somehow. I wish someone would tell her!😢
You know you are squeezing the neck when the chin goes outside in the corner At the walk! 3:40 is one too many. Partnership? Harmony? Or just plain violation of basic bending?
U don’t make any sense to me hun
The free walk was more like a propper frame than loose rein/ free walk imo. I agree deathgrip on dressage horses is what it is. That said this is not the worst ive seen.
Would like to see changes in this sport. It would be better for the horse.
It's gotten to where I'm looking more for pain/ stress signs than anything else. The more I look the more i see.
I use to think of Dressage as a test of the bond and communication between horse and rider. Now...
That’s a lot of foam in his mouth! And I don’t care what excuse you have, that amount only comes from stress! And don’t say “he’s not” because NO ONE can understand what the horse is feeling. We can only interpret what we see. Yes sometimes it’s easier to interpret but sometimes, there are things that are just interpretations. And in some cases, they can be nerves and be having fun as well. Whether the horse likes to do this or not, the stress is there.
Svp arrêtez de donner des coups pour remercier votre cheval d avoir fait ce que vous voulez svp
Les chevaux adorent les gratouilles sur l encolure !
⚠️ HUGE fan of this lady's but paused it so I could write, couldnt watch -
Horse's head cranked too far in, too painful to watch.
Why are the associations allowing this?!
Not cranked in at all , he is ridden on the lightest of contact.
with a blue tongue?@@jonjonwp
@@jonjonwp so light that the horse got a blue tongue 👌
@@danielabackstrom How would you know if he had a blue tongue? It didn't come out of his mouth. And yes watch the video he was ridden with the lightest of contacts the whole test.
@@jonjonwp it was visible on pictures
Yes she is holding him to tightley there should be some relese there hes way of movemant is being blocked.
Am I seeing what everyone else is so excited about? For me it's unpleasant to watch. Robotic. Horse tense and not allowed to have a normal neck!
@@mills12322 he is behind the vertical, that's what she's referring to. Lewis Carrier's ride was harmonius and with a horse on the vertical, reaching for the contact. Sadly judges score more for an incorrect frame such as frames behind the vertical 🙃
@@mills12322 - It's straight up torture. A horse would never choose to do this, they are forced to by narcissistic, sadistic humans who want to boost their ego and their wallets. It's digusting animal cruelty.
@@medusaslair ur just completely ignored my point earlier and are trying to turn it around these horses are more the up for performing this level of dressarge if they hated dressarge then the owners wouldn’t make them do it is common knowledge
No hate intended here but why watch the video if that's how you feel plenty of other things you can watch 😂
It's a wonder that the poor animalscan breath. Let go of the bloody reins?
Why do they all ride with a death grip on the reins, behind the bit ..it's aweful I don't watch anymore
and also so narrow ((
Maybe they will let the horses relax if the reins are slacker . That would never do.
It's creating a full body stiffness instead of collection and flowing beautiful movement. These horses would be far more beautiful to watch without pulling their mouths off.
@@pixie706 Try watching. This horse was ridden on the lightest of contacts the whole test. S he doesn't even use the curb rein at all.
@@melly7210and why ride with spurs no matter how short not needed..
This ride was unbeatable????? Gosh id hate to see what the rest were like. 😬
And how do you ride, I’d love to see you
Dujardin is also called "Miss Heavyhands" or "Edwina with the scissorhands"🙄
Absolute rubbish. You’ve not a clue what you are talking about.
@@alicecopsey7789 that is what i found in comments on Facebook. Dujardin also said, that short reins will win.
When and where? I've never heard her called that.
@@secretsquirrel7374 Carl Hester called her something like that in her early years.
@@secretsquirrel7374in his book he called her "Eddy"
I disagree about the "death grip" on the reins. The manoeuvres are so complex the horse would be confused and make errors if the reins were too loose. The contact with the horse has to be firm enough for clarity of intention, simple as. I think we can rely on Charlotte to know what she's doing, her results speak for themselves! ❤
As a hunter jumper rider in the USA, I find the way that these top dressage riders keep the horses’ chins tucked to their chests absolutely disgusting and unnatural. For those of you unfamiliar with hunter classes in the U.S., we do a course of jumps designed to look like natural obstacles one would find while out hunting. The horse is judged by its style of moving and jumping, as well as whether or not the strides in related distances were achieved correctly. Any aids given to the horse by the rider should be invisible. The whole point of hunters is to make the horse look as natural and easy to ride as possible, so the mildest bits possible are used, and the horses are allowed to carry their heads and necks in a natural position. You would NEVER see a horse in any level hunter class with its neck this rounded and its head cranked to its chest! We ENCOURAGE the horse to stretch out its neck and poke its nose out a bit. We want them to have their heads in front of the vertical and their necks in a relaxed, lower, natural position. Even in show jumping (which is an international sport, as is dressage), we do NOT want our horses’ muzzles bent behind its poll (aka behind the vertical) with its chin cranked to its chest. Show jumpers usually carry their heads higher than hunters naturally, but they aren’t forced into a frame of any kind. There is no way any horse could jump an obstacle with the super unnatural neck and head carriage I see at high level dressage. The horse needs the freedom to use its head and neck to jump. I have seen plenty of “lower level” dressage in which the horses were kept in a much less drastic frame; less curvature of the neck and the horses muzzles being in vertical alignment with -or even slightly in front of -their polls. This position would be MUCH more comfortable and healthy for the horse. I don’t see the need for the extreme head sets; horses are equally capable of performing high level movements such as piaffe and passage with a more natural frame. One of my best jumpers was a Dutch Warmblood who had a VERY good dressage education before he was imported to the U.S. I will never claim to be a dressage expert, but I managed to figure out how to do leg yields, half passes, canter pirouettes, and tempi changes on this horse, just as part of our flatwork sessions. Never once did I use anything other than a mild snaffle bit, nor did I ride him in this insane kind of frame! When my horse got a bit older and I decided that jumping was just too much stress for his senior body and legs, I leased him to a woman who rode dressage. She rode him beautifully and showed him successfully , and he never looked like he was in pain or even uncomfortable. So I know that it IS possible to ride dressage correctly without hurting the horses, and seeing this cruel method REWARDED by FEI judges makes me physically ill.
There's no way this poor horse stays sound. His neck is so tight and she pulls so hard that he lands very hard on his fore legs. I can't believe people enjoy watching this.
The only difference between trot and passage is the speed. The animation is the same. There is nothing natural about the gaits. Just a wooden doll on strings. And the strings have been tight, super tight. How many inches are between the horses chin and the neck? Six? Does the horse take the rein when she releases the curb? No? Why? And why are the hands "scrubbing a bathroom"? Does she know they are connected to the metals surrounded by soft tissues? And why is the horse drooling so much? Can we hear his breathing? Why not? Questions, questions...
Do you need glasses? She. never uses the curb. !! She puts her hands forward to encourage self carriage.. All gaits in a dressage test are based on movements a horse naturally does in freedom. Trot and passage. are NOT the same. Educate yourself instead of trying to be clever. Yo're not.
@@jonjonwp I have my glasses on, in case you ask. I see horse who is not using his back, his neck is bend, not actually curved. Is it what you call a self carriage??
@@lukashejzlar138 Dressage is a gradual process of muscle building. Perhaps you didn’t know that.
@@jonjonwpI agree. She surely has well build up biceps. It is shame that we can't see them. She definitely doesn't need gym subscription, she has horse's mouth to do her exercise.
@@lukashejzlar138he is absolutely using his back! Look behind the saddle and see how straight it is and strong. He isn't dipped and weak at all.
Your not going to bash her on what bit she uses? Like you do the men?? Hypocrites?? Women do not ride as nice as men do. Borja is one of the best riders.
NO i see hate for the male riders. Im just setting the record straight! Bigot.@JinglebWellRwock
She is a disgusting rider. But you feminists go online and bash how the men are riding.
Pete? That's a barn name! He needs a proper name.
His show name is Imhotep! Barn name is Pete.
I was about to say the same. 😂 like my horses fancy name is Bankwell Secret Agent, but his stable name is Ozzie. As yes of course from Bankwell Stud. His dad is a black Welsh C. Mum is PBA X skewbald cob. We will never reach this level but we have fun with our intros, once I've gotten his canter balanced and comfortable we can do prelim.. just takes time to get them done right and prevent problems or confusion
Beautiful routine, lovely horse. But boy I wish this trend of putting music over dressage would stop. It's rarely in tempo with the horse anyway and it's just distracting.
Its called a Freestyle and some are very much on the beat.
HAHAHAHAHAHA RUclips is wild.
I turn off the sound when I watch. It allows me to have an easier focus on the horse.
Isn’t it the freestyle?
It's called Freestyle to music for a reason. 😂
For intro level and I think prelim and novice too, you're to have instrumental music as words distract the judge. My horse very much enjoys his intro level freestyle far more than he enjoys the British Dressage intro tests. He always scores better in musicals.
Horrible. So unnatural. Hurts to watch.
So sad that this is the state of dressage.
How come ❤😮!!!?
Please explain your opinion. ❤😮🎉
With Valegro I liked her ridingstyle, but this is awful. Too short in the neck, this horse can't breath normal in this position and the horse is very restless in the mouth.
I am sorry, but I fınd it difficult to watch…for me the horse seems very tense especially in the neck. You can see that his mouth is hurting him with all the bits in it
You have quite an imagination.
People seem to think that the horse putting in any effort at all represents cruelty or something@@andtrrrot
How so? He at no time was resisting the bit. "All the bits"? There are only two, which he seems completely fine with! Not once did I see him opening his mouth. In fact, his lower lip was a bit loose, indicating a relaxed attitude, and his ears were also in relaxed mode. No tail swishing in annoyance. Not once did he give any indication of discomfort. Don't automatically assume a double bridle is a problem. If he was stiff in his neck, it would show up elsewhere in the body, as well. You don't get that kind of elevation in piaffe and passage with stiffness present.
You don't understand why the horse is foaming at the mouth do you? If a horse is tense their mouth dries out. The foam indicates it's mouth is relaxed and i the horse is working comfortably and correctly.
@senna9408Shouldn't it be,"tense?"
Horrible, whatever happened to horsemanship?
Abuse
CRUEL!!N
Dressage seems pointless. The horses look tense, rigid and miserable. The riders are stiff as a board and staring straight ahead with pained expressions. Have we lost sight of horse and rider together as one….relaxed and enjoying each other and celebrating how well they work together. It’s painful to watch a highly constrained animal performing unnatural movements like a stiff piece of machinery…being pushed hard by a mannequin with hemorrhoids.
Shame what an awful name. I always look at these two they are awesome but the horse's name is incredibly off-putting.
What, Imotehep?
They call him Pete and introduce him as such..a barn name is one thing but your at the highest level of formal riding. Why would you show your horse under his barn name 🤔 I call my horse chicken or on a bad day chicken sH** . I surely wouldn't show him to the world like that 😂
Seems strange and off putting to me as well
The most stupid thing to say is" The horse is enjoying ". Horses enjoy to run free not to dance, what would you say if someone would make you dance the tango for hours everyday of your life!. Selfish egos don't like animals.
I was a horse rider for many years, dressage, jumping etc until i understood the nonsense and stopped. We have to honor the animal not using it.
Dressage seems fluid and pretty but sorry to say dressage involves an incredibly torturous training and riding practice for the horse. THey are forced into a position that is not natural and is artificial. This is another event that needs to be changed along with 3 Day event for the horse sake. All my horses were free of all injuries all their lives but these competition horses are riddled with injuries and ailments all their lives. Comes from living an unnatural life. They can do all this without the restraints what a great idea. Time to move the dressage events into natural horsemanship instead of this artificially forced body restraints. I see alot of dressage horses wringing their tails which means they are not comfortable, irritated or are in pain. Many of them are not allowed outside of a stall or a small paddock most of their lives and that I have seen many times and have to be blanketed year round. What kind of life is that. I tried lessons in beginning dressage and some of the things that you are supposed to do are so artificial and so restrictive and goes against my knowledge of a light touch horsemanship that I never went back and my horse was totally confused and not happy! I know it is an old disipline but that does not make all that the horse has to go thru the right thing. It is time for a change and stop making these beautiful animals so uncomfortable. NO MATTER WHAT YOUR ARGUMENT THESE HORSES ARE NOT HAPPY BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BE A REAL NATURAL HORSE!!!!!!!
Charlotte’s horses have free exercise in lovely green fields and they are hacked out as well. They do not work every day of the week.
Umm well you could say that about a dancer or a sportsperson. What a silly comment to make.
@@alicecopsey7789 I guess it’s different because a dancer or a sportsperson can choose to put themselves through the training or not. Horses don’t have that choice so maybe if we look at all these horse sports from the perspective of the horse as an obligated participant we would do things differently. This horse looks stressed beyond belief.
@@cihtli Imhotep wouldn’t “perform” if he was stressed and unhappy. Anyone who owns and understands horses will know this.
Animal cruelty. No-one who loves horses, or animals in general, would do this to them. A horse would never choose to do this, they are forced to by narcissistic, sadistic humans who want to boost their ego and their wallets. It's straight up torture and it's disgusting.
I have seen worse like the rollcure for example that is not right i like to see horses being horses as they have a natural way of going.
I hope you don't eat animals then. No of course you don't or you wouldn't have been talking about cruelty. The cruelty to them is horrific.
I’m just hoping for your sake you are a vegan and don’t wear leather products. If you do then your are a complete and utter HYPOCRITE. If you advocate the SLAUGHTER of sentient animals then my friend you haven’t anywhere to go. I’d much rather see a horse do a 7 minute dressage test than advocate the suffering of millions of animals destined for a bold gun through the head or electrocution. VERY SAD INDIVIDUAL.
Actually my horse does piaffe by himself when he's cold. I have never taught him to do it.
@@Kat-mu8wq All dressage movements are natural for a horse. They are trained to execute them in dressage with a rider on.
Pete? That's a barn name! He needs a proper name.
Yes, Imotehep.