Can An Electric Van Really Replace A Diesel?
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- This week we're following James, a mobile technician. He'll be working in Scotland where he's fixing, modifying and repairing EV's. However, he won't be using a diesel van to carry out the work, instead, an electric van. He'll cover a 1000 miles and 15 jobs in 6 days.
Wow! You are a machine! Fewer and fewer people have your skills these days. My admirations! Really enjoyed watching this.
Thank you 🙏🏻
Brilliant video. Certainly shows the importance of brake servicing on EV’s. Your knowledge of all the different EV’s and their idiosyncrasies is worth it’s weight in gold.
Love the idea of mobile mechanics.
It's a tough job but suits the guy who likes to work alone.
@@trainingtheworld5093 It is great for the customer. For the mechanic it is almost like being self employed.
Having no hoist it would suck.
@@Robert-cu9bm Exactly. And working outside in all weather. I really don't understand this business.
Fantastic video James. Love the landscapes and great to see you in the day job. I think vans have to be the perfect platforms for EV's! All that flat bed area is just the perfect setup for the skateboard style design! No rear seats etc, so plenty of room for the extra weight of the battery. Then if we get more vans being produced, we could get them converted to camper vans and coachbuilt motor homes so easily!
Thanks James love these on the road repair videos as well as the garage videos! You are providing a very valuable service and your customers are very kind to provide you with snacks cheers!
Thanks for the tour, James. With that battery upgrade, the van is perfectly capable of doing what you want it to do. My thought has always been that the stock vehicle is aimed at local delivery and maintenance work, so you've widened our expectations with it.
The beauty is that there is a charger at every customer location 👍
That's a great service, I wish we had someone in Ireland doing mobile services of evs. The scenery is very like the South and West of Ireland, beautiful.
Another awesome video james, and you know you'll always be welcomed with open arms if you ever decided to move to scotland, keep up the good work
top man using a torque wrench for the wheel nuts!!!
I really enjoyed this. A great business you have there and the van did a great job. I loved the scenery, a bit different here in Australia.
Hi James and Team Cleevely.
Fascinating presentation - thank you.
Such practical enthusiasm for EV's and their maintenance.
All grist to your mill.
Great Video again. I do thoroughly enjoy your videos of your working life. I do very much enjoy the technical side of these and sometimes would like to see more detail. However you show what you can in the time you have, and I guess most people are not interested in the more technical side, just that the job gets done. Keep up the excellent videos and work.
I noticed you rubbing your left arm a few times, might be a good idea to get a heart check👍
It’s not a pain, I’ve got a muscle pull from press ups. Last thing I want to think about is a heart issue 😳
The guy is doing a fantastic job and seems to be really happy at his work👌👌
Great video, will get you to come and service my M3 later this year and you can see the place we just bought in Scotland James. You would not believe how far your money goes up here mate.
We must have gone to the wrong part of Scotland, in 2015; based at Loch Tummel, but travelling all around the area and up to Cairn Gorm, before heading South again to England. The weather was faultless during the two weeks at the end of September into October. The scenery is not bad, in general, and we like the people, many of whom exuded hospitality, so please don't misunderstand me. Maybe the ridiculous prices of essential items which we saw were not representative of the more populous areas? Everything seemed to be at 'rip off the tourists' prices.
@@RWBHere Scotland is about the same size as England but with only 6 million people so you don't have a big enough market to get the benefit of scale. The further North you go the worse it gets. We are in Dumfries and Galloway just over the border. Prices are the same as England, property is relatively cheap and while the countryside is not quite as spectacular as the Highlands you don't have to share it with midges in the summer.
Amazing video. You provide a great service for your customers. I am amazed by the amount of miles you put on the van in a weeks time; it appears that an Electric van CAN replace a Diesel van.
More of this please 💪 and a testiment to your van battery conversion but you looked done last day hope you had a good rest cheers for video 🙂🏁
These vids are fascinating James, thank you
very good sensible comments, what a change to the normal car rubbish they spout you & Sandy Munroe the best
Another excellent presentation... with some stunning scenery. Thank you.
First day back at School this morning normally a bit of a stress. Watching this while getting breakfast and pottering properly relaxed me. Really interesting video.
Glad I made your morning less stressful 👍
Great video James. With your great communication skills and such a positive work attitude your business will go from strength to strength 💪
Hope you are well paid for all your hard work you do in poor weather conditions.
I am 👍
You certainly earn your money James good work ethic Mate now you can relax after that trip hopefully for a while
great stuff mate, see you in May
Cheers mate, see you then 👍🏻
Ive just discovered your channel and your job and journeys are so fascinating. I'm stuck at a desk all day lol and I'm in Glasgow. Scotland is the best ;) such an interesting job. I never knew mobile servicing for EVs was in such demand. And you're only going to get busier as more ppl buy EVs. You travelled on a lot of the roads I have :)
Very good channel and since buying my van 13 months ago a new ENV200 now on 13984 miles a little smaller than I would have liked but can’t fault it . Preheating in cold mornings with smoother transmission than my petrol auto SL and pro ace verso auto . Wired my charger point in at home makes my work vehicle come out tops. Note I bought my van with out even trying it as none in my area to test drive risky I know but wouldn’t swop back to a transit now
James, I have always told servicers to ONLY change fluids on condition, I was willing to go to court over any issues with warranty, on the basis od 'unreasonable contract' terms.
Now that's what I call an EV home ranger! Long days with great scenery and working on cold cars. Will be much better in the summer when the days are longer...
*Amazing did not think it possible - hope for the future indeed.*
If you're ever up in Shetland I've a 2015 Leaf that'll need a service.
What a great show , well done 👍 and beautiful Scottish weather as well.
I think it’s fair to say Tesla has the lead with EV propulsion design, but any one of the major manufacturers could teach them how to design brakes that are easy to service. The model S brake design looks like something out of the 1970s. Good video and appreciate your comments on Scotland.
Great Vid James great to see the Env's in ,action... Mine might be looking for a pack upgrade soon
Excellent video James.
Yep, great view James. It gets even better still the further North you go.....
I like your working pants, where are you purchased from ? Do you have the website I can purchase too, thanks for sharing sir 👍
Awesome job, remember I’m next, plus sons Leaf 👍👍👍
On it John
You working for Visit Scotland now?
I’ll send them a bill 😉
Very informative video as always. Keep up the good work guys!
I'm surprised that so many of these EVs have brake issues. My 13 year old Subaru Impreza has 115 Mm on it, and the pads and disks are original. They get a hammering; I live on a mountain! Brakes still great.
Have you thought about using a bt cable tent that we used to see dotted around the country while they worked on the electrical system when it was raining, just a thought it’s better than just a rain Mac
Hi bud. We have a gazebo for when the flag come down 👍🏻
See as soon as you get to Scotland the rain stops! 😂😂 You should get yourself a gazebo for protection in bad weather
Interesting... A real insight to the practicalities of long distance EV use from a business perspective.
My only suggestion for improvement would be to do a *very* short comment from each charging stop, covering ease of use/access/availability etc to illustrate what the real state of play re rapid charging is - +ves and -ves.
Martin
EVBitz.uk Ltd (on the magical Isle of Colonsay, Argyll)
Awesome stuff James, are the main dealers this thorough when they're servicing Leaf's i3's etc..?
I think that the BMW i3 brake fluid change is based upon BMW ICE cars, My old Saturn 97 SL2 only had it changed when the field failed the tests, at 417K miles maybe 5 times it was changed. Got a 2015 i3 Rex
Brake fluid change is all about the water content.
Actually quite nice alloy rims underneath those plastic aero covers on that first blue model 3
Tried, they’re not too bad at all
Great video, so about 1300 miles in 6 days, that is good to know, I often talk to trade people in vans and ask if they have thought about going electric, but they usually convince me they do too many miles for the current stock, as so many new vans only have about 100 miles range. At last there are a couple now that can do 200,which juat tips the balance.
How much did that van cost including the conversion? It must save a fortune in diesel.
which ones? the vauxhall vivaro is rated at 205 miles, but that seems to be a massive overestimate(the review i saw, they only got 143 miles out of it in real world usage).... the main problem with EV vans is not that many drivers have driveways to charge them... i have my company van parked out side my house, no 7kw charges on street any where near here(closest one is about 4 miles away...).
@@iainansell5930 Yep, the Vauxhall Vivaro (of which there are two or three variants, and this ENVQ200 (with added battery) (or the Muxan added battery to add even more range). Most tradespeople I talk to think 200 (or 140) will do them, and if not, when they stop for a Costa and grab a sandwich, at breakfast, lunch or on the way home, they can top up on a fast charger.
I can't see many people wanting less than 100 mile range and only a slow charger, they have very limited uses.
It is still early days yet, so give the van companies a few more years and we should have even more options.
Fantastic video, when are you in Portugal? 🇵🇹
Hi James, just discovered your YT channel. What strikes me when you work on the brakes, no jackstand under the car when it is on the hydraulic jack. Think about your safety. Greetings from the Netherlands.
Hi bud. I her asked about this loads. The jack has a lock on it in case of hydraulic failure. I pop it in if I’m going underneath.
@@Jamesandkate That is new, I have not yet come across such a hydraulic jack.
I've never seen the Green Welly Stop look so empty. Looks very strange.
Hi James, loving your work. I live in East Kilbride near Glasgow. I have a Kona 64kWh due it’s first service. It’s a year old in September. Is it a phone call to arrange quote and appointment? Cheers 🍻
Very informative film! Thanks!
If you got the ability to accurately measure the water content of the brake fluid, isn’t that enough to warranty? Totally agree with you that’s a waste to have Bmw warranty. The whole point of driving and promoting electric vehicles is to have a greener cleaner safer future and not be wasteful of resources.
I applaud you and not charging extra for doing extra work that is not needed
Got to say James wanted to watch loads of Tesla stuff on RUclips but . This episode got me hucked you are certainly getting better at videos buddy very enjoyable to watch . Do feel for you tho all that nealing hope your knees are ok .. keep up the great work . Matt cleavley has certainly got a great worker in you . Keep safe buddy . Remember if your passing free coffe n cake etc
"there's no point in charging her an extra 80£..." Are you sure you're a car mechanic!?
Yeah, we like to keep customers 👍
@@Jamesandkate 👌
Yes the man is a Mechanic but also a gentleman who has morals and manners and has great respect for the people he serve. He serves just remember that who asked if he is a Mechanic im replying to you. See if ther ware more people like James and kate in the motor trade then you wouldn't be under the impression that all Mechanics are rip off merchants. Ps i have been working in the body shop part of the motor trade since i was 12 years old im now 51 years old an yes ther lovely people out there that dont rip car customers off buy say thay have fitted a part to ther car the charge the customer top wak and never fitted that part in the first place so i think James was a gentleman for showing you on camera what a true and trustworthy Mechanic he is.
@@paddyhillis9987 Yes! And there are people out there with something called a sense of humour. You clearly missed the point of a lighthearted comment. BIG WHOOSH!
Hopefully she bungled you an extra £20 for your honesty. After all you have travelled far enough.
A very interesting insight into mobile ev servicing as well as the practicality of using an electric van on a daily basis.
I spotted a shadow during your filming, it looked like you are using a dji pocket, is that correct? The quality of video looks very good.
Hi. We’re using a Hero 8 black. Does a good job 👍🏻
Nice job you have there. I see you checked and did not change the Leaf reduction gear oil. In a previous video you changed the oil and it had gear teeth remnants in it (!). Looking at the Nissan service schedule the oil is shown as inspect only - at least until 90k miles or 3 years but it also says "change when necessary". How do you determine when it is necessary then ? Thanks
hi James. I need a service on my Renault Zoe in glasgow (no rush)....and I have toasties :)
OK, where the Dickens is the rapid at 09:48?!! "36 miles from Oban...". I thought I knew them all around here! Please put me out of my misery!
Doh! It's at the Green Welly Shop's carpark at Tyndrum... How different it looks in the sunshine!
This works for you because your visiting clients for several minutes and borrowing their electric.
James, love your videos, been watching for years - one critisim. Please use axle stands, please :-)
It's great to hear someone speaking up about brake fluid change at two years.....an absolute rip off. I would be willing to bet that even if I lived in a very humid climate it would still give a very low water reading at two years old, well on BMW it's not when the car is two years from registration but two years from the build date.
I agree. Manufacturers service schedules are shocking, but they pull good money 💰
Yes, it can - but that comes at a cost, long charging times ... and you spend your time while waiting.
We made a clear cut: EV only for max. 1 charge break a day and everything else are Diesel jobs ...
Better: we usually do not charge once and switch cars to Diesel ... to save the time while the EV charges from the solar roof when not running in the local area. Also the fast charger prices have increased by 50% over the last 2 years and are ridiculous compared to Diesel even though we pay 9 Cents more since January.
And for all the trailer tasks the usual EV sucks, no tow hook or low trailer weights unuseable to tow a rowing boat trailer for the rowing club.
In our family we have replaced 3 gas cars by pure EV but still have 3 Diesel from Mobile Home to classic Mercedes Diesel and a gas roadster.
We also might sell 1 EV to get a plug in hybrid cause 1 EV gets too often to the range limit and we wanted to see how the hybrid performs. And yes , we had already a Tesla S from 2019 and that was a nightmare or mess of a car and Tesla service that had no interest to fix it ... 4 times and every evening still open issues that forced us to drive again 200 km to the next Tesla center. SOLD and never a Tesla again ... the quality is not reliable and that from day 1.
Taycan works quite well and the e-GOLF we got.
But tough job you seem to love in all the weather conditions and lot of driving plus charging breaks ... I would go for a motor home and its warm cabin and really long range.
Nice video !
They don't suit all needs yet, but that will come. You seem to be do a decent job running EV's already, so high 5 to that.
so many miles, hotel rooms, and drive time can not make the cost to customers cheap.
I do find it weird that you have to travel so far to do work and that there is no one closer that can do it.
may be the company should expand to fill the need there is for ev servicing.
We are going to expand, just not quite yet. We charge way under the dealers costs.
Brake lubrication service? First time I have seen such a thing. How common is that service in UK? I like your NV200e. The livery looks good. I myself prefer a little more range between charges. My minimum range requirement is 200 miles.
There ia option of an additional 17.6kWh underbody battery pack [UBEX] that could be fitted to James's van.
Love the video, didn't know you did home servicing does that include Mid Wales? as we have 2 Nissan Leaf's, it would be nice if you had a direct link in your youtube page to the service booking in page! just a thought!!
Just to note my van with out me in it has a total kerb weight of 23200 kg when last put on a weigh bridge as a daily drive is that the sort of weight you drive on with your routine day servicing
What Van are you using
23t?
Env200 40kw I have a 14 month old version tends
Tenka
@@grahamworthy100
Oh 2 tonnes not 23.
I’m into United States I’ve been waiting for a all electric van for a service vehicle looking at the Toyotas myself.
My mobile business is just mobile air conditioning for heat pumps in air-conditioning on vehicles
How do you prevent rapidgate with the 40kwh pack? I assume you have disabled the cooling fans?
Did I see Rob of Fully Charged visited your Workshop?
Rob has done more than one episode of Fully Charged at Cleevely EV in Cheltenham.
I watched because I would like to change my fleet of vans to electric but we have no overnight charging, 3 guys parked up charging one van x by 5 vans I just can't see how I can do it ??
Looks like standard brembo issues with anything that lives near the coast on that red S, nothing a big hammer won't fix 😂 👍🏽
Hi James
I'm considering a change to an all electric van for my electrical contracting business. You plugged yourself in at a few customers properties. Just wondering if you monitor your usage and offer the money off your invoice? or are we only talking pence for the amount of time you're on site?
So in Glasgow you got scran, and in Edinburgh you never even got a biscuit? The stereotypes are still holding.
Great video/ content James ,what tool do you use to test the brake fluid content and
Where did you do your EV training?
Thank you and keep up the good work👍
I use a bluepoint brake fluid tester and I trained at Jaguar Landrover.
@@Jamesandkate thank you
What I’d like to know is, is it practical to make an electric motorhome? As obviously there are going to be extra weight concerns with the battery and the weight of the cabin too.
I’d be interested to know.
Yes, the e-NV200 makes a great campervan. I've converted mine ruclips.net/video/6wbEi4W74EE/видео.html&
Mercedes has done some but that did not work out very well. Do the math and you will end up in a 30 - 35 kWh consumption rate per 100 km based on a simple, unconverted Mercedes EQV that needs 40 kWh in winter. A bavarian guy had done a test drive last week over 1500 km and he could not get it below 32 kWh - without heating.
You will need a 100 kWh battery for just 250 km of range ... and that will raise the weight a lot ... and reduce the amount you can load. Here we have a 3500 kg limit and if you go above then you will get a speed limit of 80 km / h ...
Does not make sense ... we have replaced the room battery with a Li Ion 5 kWh power pack and replaced the gas 230V and 12 V refrigerator with a simple 230 V refrigerator that is powered by that 5 kWh battery via inverter. That works great cause the fridge need 90 kWh a year or 0,3 kWh a day ... and we have 2x 380 kWP power panels on the roof that deliver 800 kWh per year or 2 kWh per day when we travel (not in winter) ...
But if you wanna replace a powertrain then the weigt will increase a lot - just check the Mercedes EQV and Mercedes V-Class weights ... 500 kg difference. And you will need a cabin heater with gas tank or you have to go the electrical way too but that consumes 3,5 kW per hour if you are parking or 35 kWh in 10 hours and who wants another 30 kWh pack for 5000€ more and 150 kg heavier !
Not worth the effort ...
@@typxxilps Agree, it's better to convert an electric van to a campervan than convert a motorhome to be electric. Motorhomes are terribly aerodynamic. The Vivaro-e 75kW or Mercedes EQV 100kWh (if money is no object) would make a very nice campervan.
@@GlynHudson I love these vids of your, Glyn.
@@GlynHudson and if the van sits for any length of time , solar panels and a small wind turbine can top up batteries...
What a great video! Super job.
On the EO charger that your customer let you charge van with, how much was th3 cost of th3 electricity, do have an6 idea?
Sorry, I don't. We deduct the cost from the bill if the customers requests it.
I get the point of EV's But I think if used in a fairly local area they would be more suitable . On the tasks your doing with the long distance involved . Plus the frequent stops to recharge . I can see many company's sticking with the old diesels on the grounds of efficiency 300 mile trip ? 2 stops for 45 mins or do the 300 in one hit could mean an extra job done thus better effectiveness for the company . All that is only based on my assumptions ! Are there bigger battery's available ,is it possible to fit 2 on the vehicle , Or would that make it not cost effective Open for discussion ?
How do the economics of travelling all the way up to Scotland work? Do you wait until you’ve got several cars to do, or do your customer up there pay a bit more to cover the mileage, hotels etc?
I dare say a bit of both, or at least, that is what I do when I work away from home and stay away. Book lots of folks in, and change a little extra for hotel and travel. As my name might suggest, I shear sheep not service cars, but same difference, if you are good (and not much competition helps), people don't mind paying extra.
Hi. Scotland customers pay the same as any customer. We make enough to cover our costs.
Just for reference. Are electric vehicles heavier on discs and pads than normal ice vehicles. What are the average mileages when you are replacing them. Also what brake fluid tester would you recommend.
Hello James. Please can you give me some advice on a second hand ev i have had my eyes on the BMW i3 with the range extender. Do you think this would be a good first ev for me out of all the ev you have worked on in your opinion for a 50 year old singe man no kids or need for a big suv thank you Patrick
Hi Patrick. The i3 REX is a great little EV. Range on electric is lower in comparison to newer EVs but it's still a great reliable car with the REX as back up should you need it.
@@Jamesandkate hello James and kate thank you so much for taking the time to reply to me i no your a very very busy man after watching your video thank you for your thoughts about the i3 because its the only one i really like the look of and i3 not buying one with out the range extender because im looking at second hand not buying a new ev thank you once again take care Patrick
How do I book a service for my MG ZS EV? We are in Surrey near Epsom...
Drop me an email to mobile@cleevelyev.co.uk
Awesome van!!
Great job , pity you don’t do ireland
So just for interest, out of fifteen jobs how many involved doing anything electrical?
Only one this time.
I notice the ID4 (and 3?) have drum brakes at the back. Is this not quite a good idea?
It is a good idea. The Zoe also has rear drums, seldom get any issues with them
It' pretty ok , plus drum brakes are better at low speed.
The work load is more on the front wheels when the driver brakes btw .
It's fine unless it's a Lamborghini : it never goes slow.
Great video 👍
I'd be really interested to know what that round trip cost you in electrical £'s and in KWh. It would have cost me about £180 for diesel in a Vivaro?
I think it'll be about half.
It was £47.
Hi James great insight to your job, couple of questions, does all or just the Tesla brakes end up clogged/corroded due to lack of gripping the discs, second I heard you say you charge up with chadamo I was wondering do they not make an aftermarket fix to change to CCS
Hi bud. All brakes suffer to a certain extent, the Leaf rears are prone to this too. However, Tesla fronts are bad on occasions.
maybe as EVs evolve they’ll adapt to this too - regen is great, but looking after expensive brakes is also good for the customer. Maybe like OLED TVs do ‘screen burn protection’ cycling every X hours, EVs can do occasional ‘brake protection’ where they don’t use regen and use friction brakes more, to keep them exercised and healthy
A good advert to show why to avoid tesla 22:29.
Definitely a reason to service them. Thanks for watching so long, I know it drags a bit, this one.
21 inch wheels are no help the standard 19 inch wheels do less damage in every way. MODEL S has now had some design changes including suspension and as James said MODEL 3 is much easier to deal with.
@@honesty_-no9he 21" travers the rough surfaces and speed humps much better.
Do you carry all these parts around with you James, or do you rely on local motor factors?
We carry everything
Might sound like a daft question but does it really pay, seems a lot of miles and away from home overnighting in hotels. What happens if your stuck for parts that maybe you hadn’t expected. I was a field engineer, all be it in a different line of business, my travel radius was 50 miles tops 60.
It does, quite easily too. The mileage is cheap as it's electric and the hotels when booked early are £30 a night, well, they are currently anyway. Post COVID that may change, in which case, we'll evaluate the trips.
do you always/usually charge up at customers? They should be fine (less than a quid’s worth of electricity) but would help with your range during the day?
i think its around 80p an hour to charge from a 7kw home charger, so it hardly costs the customer anything and its probably worth about 5-10 miles worth of range..it builds up over the day..
We do, where possible, and we’ll happily take it off the bill so the customer isn’t out of pocket
@@Jamesandkate
That'll work out cheaper for your business expenses compared to fast chargers.
'Can't get any worse I suppose' - Kevin Williams mobile clutch repair would argue differently James :D :D I have to ask, are you full time with Cleverly now or are you still at JLR?
Full time bow 👍🏻
@@Jamesandkate nice one...
Mg ZS EV 12month review ????
Why not get a head light?
Why exactly do you like to work on MG ZS EV? I'm thinking about one but there's no service centre in my country. Are there any good obd diagnostic tools available?
There are some diag tools now available, but it’s the simplicity. You could have the battery out and stripped in an hour 👍🏻
@@Jamesandkate so what about software updates? Can be DIY?