Canada with free medicare had 20,000 medical doctors in that stadium. Sitting on their seats from long distance without needing MRI or X-ray they immediately diagnosed that KD had a torn achilles. Those evil Canadian doctors then proceeded to cheer the torn achilles instead of the KD turnover. Every other team in the USA with no free medicare would have cheered the turnover instead of the torn achilles.
i just dont see the raptors parting with siakam or barnes in a durant trade. it guts the team and they are no longer contenders, and durant will just ask for a trade out of toronto. any trade for durant has to keep the starting line up of fvv siakam and barnes intact or its not worth trading for durant. its why i dont see durant coming to toronto unless nets willing to take og anunoby, gary trent jr and khem birch (filler) plus picks for durant. I dont see masai gutting the team. masai knows raptors with durant are not contenders without siakam and barnes. also i am happy if they dont do the durant trade and he goes elsewhere. i think the raptors are in a good place with young players developing and making playoffs again. all they needed was depth last year and they were going deep. masai got the raptors some depth for bench this year. raptors are fine without durant.
I’m a black American who lived in Toronto for ten years. I spent some of the best years of my life there. I had three children. Fell in love with the Raptors. Celebrated a championship. Met people from all over the world, including Europe, Asia, Africa, South America, and the Middle East. Yes, there are some idiots there. But overall, you’re not judged by your skin color the same way you are in the States. Not even close. I’m not sure what Broussard is talking about. He sounds like a person who has absolutely no clue what life is like in Toronto.
He said it's "different from America and you feel it", which is true. If you're going to sit here and pretend like Black Canadians and Black Americans are super similar you're either lying or unbelievably unsocial.
@@two-literbowls5195 what does that have to do with a player who will be sheltered 99% of time. Its not like he'll be interacting with the population on a regular basis
Respectfully, this may be Broussard's worst take ever. To compare Scottie and Ben's shooting ability is crazy. I also get that Toronto is not America, but to frame it as an African-American specific thing is wild. Very multi-cultural city, a lot of diverse people from diverse backgrounds.
Chris seems to talk for all African Americans saying its so diverse that blacks don't want to be there. FVV, Lowry, Gary Trent Jr are all loving it in Toronto. Gary Trent is a lot happier in Toronto than he was in Portland. I've noticed Stephen A and Chris always have a smug opinion on Toronto.
@@mike.cdn7212 Yeah I believe it's simply an anti-Canada bias because the country doesn't have all the same exact things America does. But in reality, meaning no disrespect, Toronto is a better city than half the cities hosting a team in the NBA. Like this dude played in OKC for 9 years and has Phoenix on his wish list lmao.
oh my god, Broussard should actually be fired for this. It’s one thing to say a bad take, but to attack a city really on baseless accusations is so tasteless. How many people in the NBA say Toronto is one of the classiest, well run organizations in the league today? You’re an analyst, so do your research before you succumb to stereotypes.
As someone who lives in Vancouver, Broussard's take would be better suited for this city than Toronto lol.. When I go to Toronto there are so many African Americans there, mixed in with all different types of groups. The ones I speak to love Toronto more than America and say the people are nicer. Weird take.
Smug comments on Canada in general. Vancouver isn't that far from Seattle but how many people want the Sonics back? Toronto has quite a bit black people there and its quite diverse. Chris is right you do feel the difference once you cross the border but its clear Chris doesn't want any superstar in Toronto just like he couldn't wait for Kawhi to leave.
KD has said numerous times he loves Toronto. He even said they were his favorite team growing up. I don’t know what these clueless NBA analysts are talking about.
He should've went there in 2016. Him, Derozan and Lowry could have gave the Cavs a huge challenge but decided to take the easiest path possible and go with the 73 win team
Its because they don't want to cover Toronto. Raptors games aren't really televised often. When Kawhi was there, they put out a feeling that they couldn't wait for him to leave for a another team moreso Los Angeles.
Tracy McGrady and Vince Carter have both spoken at length of how much they regret leaving Toronto. Kawhi Leonard doesn't talk much, but I imagine in his heart, he now recognises that it would have been better for his career had he remained. Oh, and Masai Ujiri will never trade Scottie Barnes. I can't see Pascal Siakam being in any package for a 34 year old Durant either. P.S. Toronto cheered Kevin Durant turning the ball over to Serge Ibaka, not that he was injured.
@JeremyCuddles While I'd have to go over the interviews and panel appearances to know exactly what Tracey McGrady said, from memory, it's snippets like 'had I stayed, we could have won a couple of champions, I don't mean to be disrespectful to any team, but come on, at least one', 'when I left, I had a bit of a chip on my shoulder, I was young, and as I found out, the grass isn't always greener', 'Kawhi, don't make the same mistake I did.' These are not direct quotes by McGrady, but the kinds of things I remember him saying over the years. The 2000-01 Toronto Raptors had Vince Carter, Antonio Davis, Alvin Williams, Charles Oakley, Morris Peterson, Keon Clark, Dell Curry, Tracy Murray, Jerome Williams, and Chris Childs. They finished 5th in the East, with 47 wins. That same year Tracey McGrady averaged 26.8 points per game in Orlando. I'd say McGrady was worth at least 5 more wins, which would put them in second place, and you're looking at Eastern Conference finals or better. It also would have made the Raptors so much harder to defend against, with two guys who can score 30 without breaking a sweat, plus Davis, and the emerging Morris Peterson. There's a lot of he said, she said from that era, but the team was good, and held so much more potential. And of course, if you've got Carter and McGrady in their prime, it'll make people want to take a pay cut to win the silverware. That's the only way Toronto will ever attract well regarded free agents: when they're winning. Because if they're not, there's the weather, the fact it's a different country (even if incredibly similar), and the taxes. To this day, Hedo Türkoğlu remains the most coveted free agent the Raptors have ever signed. He was spotted at a nightclub after missing a game with a "stomach virus", and was traded the following off season.
Cannot believe he said that on TV about a country and a city with absolutely ignorance out of his mouth and you’re a preacher you’re a man of God that was disgusting just because you don’t want to basketball player in Toronto
Toronto is one of the most culturally diverse cities on the planet. It’s crazy to me that Broussard can be so uneducated on the subject even though he “covered” the team.
It makes some sense to me. Being culturally diverse and feeling at home as a black person can be two separate things. There are proportionally a lot more black people in America and in certain cities it skews a lot more. Black community in America and black community in Canada are not the same. In Canada being black is almost like any other minority but in America there's so much history there and clashes that it's just not that same.
@@glen1742 “feeling at home as a black person” is entirely an opinion of that specific person’s view. CULTURALLY DIVERSE can be a proven fact based on population lol. A black in America is a minority like in any other place. Stop this nonsense lol
He’s talking about black Americans. This is a conversation black people will understand. Black Americans are different from the black people here in Toronto culturally. We’re of Caribbean and African decent. We’re either born in the Caribbean or Africa or our parents are from there. These guys mom, father, grandmother and even great grandparents are American! The US is all they know. We don’t share the same culture with black Americans . For example rap music is their culture. Growing up as kid in the Caribbean nobody listened to rap music and if you did people were like wtf is that music ? Put on some reggae, put on some soca. That’s our music not rap music. He’s talking about black Americans and how they would fit in here! You guy’s just think oh they’re all black so they can fit in with each other. I never understood why people always say take them to caribana. What make’s you guy’s think a black American knows anything about caribana ? That’s not their culture and must of them don’t understand it. Many African’s living here don’t even understand caribaba because it’s specifically Caribbean culture not just some black get together.“ It’s like taking a white man of Swedish heritage and putting him amongst white people from Alabama or Mississippi and thinking they have something in common because they’re all white. Broussard Came of sounding foolish but I understand what he’s trying to say. If I go Fred Vanvleet and start playing soca music for him you think he knows what that is ? It’s not his culture. Boucher know’s soca music because he’s originally from the Caribbean so it’s easy for him to go to caribana and understand what’s going on. If you take Fred there he’s clueless and that’s what you guys don’t understand about his comment.
@@str8factztv299 thank you for explaining your point of view. I understand what you mean but ultimately, as you said, the argument sounds foolish and ignorant. It’s like if someone said: “I don’t know if the Warriors can keep Wiggins, he is Canadian after all!”
@@Geeandrezzi if u think being black in America is just like being a minority in Canada then I don't really know what to tell u. As Str8ghtfacts said their parents and grandparents and great grandparents were American. There is history there. It's something that I as a 1st generation South Asian Canadian can not understand. Not every minority has the same experience or are treated the same way. No one is claiming what Brussard said is a fact, we acknowledge its an opinion; all we are saying is we understand where Brussard is coming from and why he may personally feel that way.
No way I'm giving up Barnes and siakim for 35 year old kd who just got swept in round 1. Especially when KD has shown he will leave any situation for any minor inconvenience
@@_r.i.t.z._81 yes he quit on the nets. with no siakam or barnes as 2nd and 3rd option they will just double kd, and the raptors will not be contenders with durant. KD will ask for a trade out of toronto the next year. its not worth trading for durant if siakam or barnes are leaving in trade. i say stay with what they got, raptors won 48 this year with a bad first half and new guys learning the system. The current raptors team with bench depth now will win 50-57 games next year having played a year together and having learned the system.
@@giovanni-ed7zq the raptors would prolly have to give up too much to win i don’t have a problem wit that take. i jus think it’s very unfair to say he’s proven to leave at any minor inconvenience jus cause he wanted out of a bizarre situation wit the nets
Finally someone brought this up. Wtf is he on about? Like is he insinuating that Toronto is unfriendly to black Americans? Maybe just Americans…but the undertone that uh-oh Canada is so foreign and suspect for “African-Americans” is just a base and uncultured perspective
@@techronin_ I think he is insinuating the "Culture" difference between African-American's & Black Canadians would leave you to not really feel "in" or "at home" aside from having the same skin color.
@@techronin_ Like for instance, to bring into reference my own ethnicity, an Italian American will have a different experience if they go chill with italians in Argentina or Australia and especially in Italy. It's a WHOLE different vibe & culture that was created here by different experiences & hardships vs. the other countries Italians fled to.
@@noname-ni1qt Bro. No lmao trust me, we have a TON of black communities here in T.O. I call Toronto "NY's little brother" because that's literally how it is. Smaller population in general, so smaller community sizes, but same general vibes. Broussard was out of pocket for saying this, and it spoke to the ignorance of these peoples' perception of Canada. Antoine calling Canada "his favourite city" is also telling of the geographic prowess these geniuses have.
@@SalKhayer You seem to be from Canada haha so ill take your word. I was just hoping to give them the of the doubt, bu it seems like they might not need it lol.
I don't get broussards take of African Americans won't stay here due to diversity. As Nick pointed out 2 minutes before, Toronto is incredibly diverse and a massive city. Look at places like Utah, Milwaukee, Minnesota.. how diverse are they? I hate all the stereo-types of Toronto that are just not true, other than being Canadian we should be a top 5 market to go to due to the fan-base, quality of life, coaching/management. I live in dt Toronto, and have traveled to all the big cities in the states and its absolutely comparable.
He’s talking about an African-American presence. All of those cities still have more African-Americans than a place like Toronto. A lot of the diversity in Toronto comes from Asian countries. The Black people that live there are overwhelmingly from the Caribbean and Africa. Those cultures are not the same as an African-American culture. So I can see why they might feel homesick.
@@thezu9250 you’re completely wrong. Toronto’s black population alone exceeds the entire population (all races) of cities like Miami, Oakland, Cleveland, and New Orleans
@@adinc2293 What’s funny is if you go by percentages, all of those cities have a higher black population than Toronto. Besides, he said African-Americans. Not black ppl in general.
@@adinc2293 The percentage of Black people is much higher. So huh? Besides, what percentage of Black Canadians are from the US? All of those cities have African American Black people in total numbers. Toronto has people of African or Caribbean descent. Thats a much different culture. Its like talking about how many Italian people when the person is Swedish.
I'm a raptors fan and I don't want KD. We'd have to trade Scottie Barnes and then match salaries by trading OG and maybe Gary Trent Jr. We don't really have a bench, we still are lacking at the center position and can't rely on a rookie that was the 33rd pick. It makes no sense because we won't even have a team to compete with left.
The irony here, is that all of these Scottie Barnes trade for KD coverage just show how special Scottie Barnes is. As there is no rumours of the Nets wanting Cade Cunningham or Evan Mobley for KD.
raptors are not trading siakam or barnes because they are no longer contenders even with durant. they will just double durant with no siakam and barnes.
I have been to Canada before, it's a nice little city. I saw their castle and everything. I even saw a Canadian official named Truedo in front of a crowd while I was there. Unfortunately, I didn't get to see their leader. I heard they call her a queen or princess. It would have been nice to take pictures with her.
As a Raptors fan the best offer that I would make to the Nets would be OG (17M) + GTJ (17M) + Birch (6M) + Two 1st Round Picks. The money is close enough to the Durant money and, I think talent wise, other teams would be tough to beat that given the trade restriction rules on the Nets (due to Ben Simmons max rookie extension). Maybe I might go Three 1st Round Picks, especially if the Nets add in Seth Curry but then the money needs to balance. Basically, this trade leaves the Raptors in a position to be a strong contender that has a chance to win it all, and the Nets have a solid young talent base committed to developing their craft with no drama. As for the Wolves deal, they seriously over-paid for Rudy Gobert. Their mistake is not the standard.
@@joshuap935 It's hard to believe Masai would be involved in any trade like that. So for it to be the "standard," I would also assume then that Masai would be out of the talks, but it actually appears based on Vegas betting odds, the Raptors are the frontrunner with the best package. Suns do have a Hail Mary third team out of no where option that the Nets have suggested they do. /maybe /shrugs Sorry best I got.
These superstars have been demanding trades earlier and earlier into their contracts and now a superstar wants moved with four years left. These superstar's actions will have big ramifications on the average player. The owners are going to take the Player's Association to the woodshed when this CBA is up. It's gonna get ugly.
@@youtubeonbullshhidontlikeg9817 That's fair. I still think two players shouldn't be able to destroy a franchise the way Kyrie and KD did it just now. This isn't right man lol
I'm not sure why Chris Broussard brought up rhace, because when I was in Toronto, I saw blaks of some type. I only felt differently by not being from there. In Montreal - which is less diverse, if you will, I felt fine there too! Once they know that you are from the US, they feel happy that you actually want to go to Canada! They also want to give you a speech about how evil your government is, even though theirs is right in bed with them.
Broussard is delusional that’s why. T-Mac, Vince carter and Kwahi didn’t leave because of race issues. T-Mac and carter left because that team at the time were in the lottery every year. Kawhi left because he wanted to go back home.
@@rayrenz3599 uh, Tmac left cause he didn’t want to be in cousin Vince’s shadow anymore lol. Vince left cause the front office he was comfy with was fired. Not sure where you got a playoff team every year being a “lottery team” as the reason they left lmao
I believed what Broussard meant is that Black Americans would feel out of place in Canada because they have a distinctive culture that only exists in America. Over the centuries Black Americans have established their own culture and home in America. They have a long history in America going back over 400 years in some cases. Their culture and experience is intertwined in American history. Their culture and influence has a lot to do with how America is seen today. Black Americans in many cases have been in America for as long as they can remember. This means their parents, grandparents, great grandparents and many generations have been Americans. Asking a Black American where you come from is like asking a White American where you come from. They only know what continent they come from and that's it; for Blacks Africa and Whites Europe. Black Americans are not recent comers or immigrants. That's why they're distinctive from other black people like the Caribbeans and Africans. Those recent comers come from different cultures and still have strong ties to their homeland like most immigrants do. They speak a different language and eat their traditional food and usually identifies themselves with the country they're from or where their parents or grandparents come from. They have their own music, wear their traditional clothing, go to carnivals and do other traditional things. In many African traditions, a man needs to pay the woman family in order to marry her. For a Black American, this would be a cultural shock living in a place where their culture and people are missing. Plus it would require a lot of adjustments to try to fit in a new place with people whose culturally and distinctively different from them. In America, they have their own culture, they own neighborhoods, cities traditions, language and unique history in America. America is their home where they built for centuries. So it would make sense for them to not want to live in a foreign place. I believe that's where Chris Broussard was coming from. It has nothing to do with Canada not being culturally diverse. He was speaking strictly from an Black American prospective.
This 'diversity' thing is only a concern for players from other parts of the world and the powers that be who keep acting as if blaks care about that. Blaks don't benefit from being in a city full of Chinese, Italians, East Indians and Mexicans.
The diversity comes from Asian countries. There are literally more people of Chinese descent and there are of all the Caribbean and African countries combined! So please stop pretending like as if African-Americans are magically going to have something in common with people from different countries just because they are black.
Chris Broussard is one of my favourite sports analyst but man his take on Toronto is way off here that it's disappointing. Born and raised as a Torontonian, our inability to keep NBA superstars here at this point in time has nothing to do with them being African American 😂. Also Kawhi left for an opportunity to play at home which none of these guys brought up.
Torontonians are just confused a chris's take. You literally will see a different race every next person in toronto. The city has such a strong carribbean influence even white kids talk like Jamaicans. Cmon bruh.
@@GStampedeIII don't know why though... like I get the weather but there are far more discriminatory practices in most states in comparison. Also, Toronto is rated one of the best cities in the world to live in.
Praising Masai as a great executive then contemplating if he would trade Barnes. Of course the Raptors won’t trade Barnes to get Durant. Bru and Nick have said multiple times a star player is not going to command a return of equal value in terms of other star players. The Nets are not going to get a young star in return for KD. Not Barnes; Adebayo; or Booker.
LOL. You are trading for Kevin Durant and not just some disgruntled star off the street. Barnes and pieces would not be even equal in value to the marketing and on court production you would get with KD.
@@dyeremi Barnes no sense as a demand money wise. Durant for Barnes + the bench is just dumb. Masai is known as being smart and making deals that always favor him. Two things don't add up here.
"It's not America, and you feel it when you're there, I'm telling you, especially as an African-American. It's a different situation than African-Americans are used to being in." Considering how African-Americans are usually treated in America, isn't this a good thing?
Nick is right on this one. The problem is TO would have to give up a lot to get him...so then who is KD playing with in the end? When Kawhi came in, it worked because he basically replaced DeRozan 1 for 1, but with this they'd have to give up too much imo
He's actually wrong..they don't have to give up all three of those guys...these guys don't want KD to come to TO that's why they spinning this narrative, trying to come up with every negative reason why he shouldn't come to TO, they not doing this for any of the other teams.
yep the raptors are not as deep as the 2018 team. they lose siakam and barnes they are not a contender. so no point trading for durant as they will be worse off than having him with no siakam or barnes. just the offenced and defence you lose in the deal doesnt make up for the 30-40 ppg and defence rebounds steals and blocks you gonna lose for durant who will give you 28-30ppg with no defence.
@@nicktolentino8250 i dont see raptors doing a 3rd team trade to give up more assets to get KD. The current team will win 50-57 games next season with the added bench depth they have now. Raptors are fine without KD. Their window is still good with a young team.
I'm curious what part of Toronto is Bru hanging out in? Vaughn? It's one of the most diverse cities in the world. Why would he feel... whatever as a black man in TO?
I believed what Broussard meant is that Black Americans would feel out of place in Canada because they have a distinctive culture that only exists in America. Over the centuries Black Americans have established their own culture and home in America. They have a long history in America going back over 400 years in some cases. Their culture and experience is intertwined in American history. Their culture and influence has a lot to do with how America is seen today. Black Americans in many cases have been in America for as long as they can remember. This means their parents, grandparents, great grandparents and many generations have been Americans. Asking a Black American where you come from is like asking a White American where you come from. They only know what continent they come from and that's it; for Blacks Africa and Whites Europe. Black Americans are not recent comers or immigrants. That's why they're distinctive from other black people like the Caribbeans and Africans. Those recent comers come from different cultures and still have strong ties to their homeland like most immigrants do. They speak a different language and eat their traditional food and usually identifies themselves with the country they're from or where their parents or grandparents come from. They have their own music, wear their traditional clothing, go to carnivals and do other traditional things. In many African traditions, a man needs to pay the woman family in order to marry her. For a Black American, this would be a cultural shock living in a place where their culture and people are missing. Plus it would require a lot of adjustments to try to fit in a new place with people whose culturally and distinctively different from them. In America, they have their own culture, they own neighborhoods, cities traditions, language and unique history in America. America is their home where they built for centuries. So it would make sense for them to not want to live in a foreign place. I believe that's where Chris Broussard was coming from. It has nothing to do with Canada not being culturally diverse. He was speaking strictly from an Black American prospective.
@@jmatheman1 The world is not just black and white. Living in the states one of the issues that Canadians won't understand the states have separate communities where you have blacks in one place, then whites in another. Toronto is all mixed; not sure how anyone can complain about that or they need to get out of their bubble, cause we can't have a future with its current state
@@TRINI818 Canada is predominantly White. It's only the inner cities that are more mixed there. Anywhere else is mainly White and a few places with Natives. Whereas in America you can find small towns with Black folks or Hispanics or Whites and certain areas with Native Americans. The big cities or inner cities in America are usually more mixed with people from many backgrounds. However, I wasn't referring to that. I was referring to Black Americans not having a big community presence in Canada for them to feel at home. The Jamaicans, Haitians and other Caribbeans and Africans have a big community presence in Canada. It's the same with the Asians, Indians, Arabs, Middles easterns in Canada. When these people come to Canada they can fit in more easily and find people from their community. This wouldn't be the same case for Black Americans. Their community only exist in America because Black Americans don't typically move and immigrate to other countries like Africans, Carribeans and other immigrants do. Their people, community, culture and history is only found in America. They wouldn't have that in Canada or any other country. This doesn't mean that Canada would discriminate against them. They could fit in Canada but they would feel more home sick compare to other minorities since they don't have people like them there. In Canada they would be the minorities of the minorities. They would have to try and fit in with Carribeans and Africans or other minorities like Indians, Middle eastern while at the same time adjusting to White Canadian culture with hockey and everything. That's where Chris Broussard was getting at. He wasn't trying to make Canada look bad or anything.
Kyrie preLebron: 0 playoff games Kyrie after leaving Lebron: 17-18: Injured before playoffs, team go to ECF game 7 without him. 18-19: Historically bad series vs Bucks, shoots 30% FG and 18% 3PT, loses round 2, leaves team. (Giannis made more 3’s than Kyrie in series) 19-20: Plays 20 games with losing record, doesn’t play in playoffs for Nets who made it despite him missing the whole year 20-21: Injured in playoffs, loses round 2. Losing record without Harden all year. 21-22: Plays 20 games with losing record, gets swept first round and averages 15.3 PPG on 37% FG in the last 3/4 games. He would be a Kemba Walker clone without Lebron, Harden, and Durant. FREE KD.
Agree with everything besides the “Free KD” he chose to play with him and the nets did everything KD asked them too. KD deserves more blame than sympathy
These guys are clowns. I’m from Toronto you guys may think New York and LA are multicultural but wait until you walk the streets of Toronto. Every single person is a different shade. So much African American culture, we host the largest Caribbean festival, Caribana every summer. Free agents from the outside looking in are not inclined strictly because they think it’s a big shift away from family. That’s the only reason kWhi left. Tmac and Vince have both stated they regret leaving. And every player that comes to the city loves it. If you get a chance to experience Toronto, there’s no place like it in the world.
@@thezu9250 how are you telling me and you’re not even from the city LOL. We have so much Jamaican and east African culture even our English has patois and Somali influence. You’re an idiot.
So disappointed in first things first. KD just wants to ball and knows this is an elite organization. Media can put Toronto down all they want. What difference does it make if he's already got the contract. Money and championships over here up north.
its not worth trading siakam or barnes cuz raptors will have no 2nd and 3rd legit scoring option. gutting the team for durant makes the trade not worth doing. i believe masai will pass on the KD trade.
the sports illustrated report says the nets want 2 allstars plus a young player and 4 first and 3 swaps for durant. i dont see masai making this trade.
@@connorbrennan4631 its why nets have no takers. they gonna have to accept less or play him and try to trade him during the season or next year. next year a year older they get less likely than now.
In current roster, Barns is the only player whom will not be put in any trade package. If Nets agrees, Raps will package one of Siakam or OG,+ Gary Trent Jr. + multi 1st round picks. Personally, my ideal raps core next season is: FVV-OG-Barns-KD.
Raptor fan here, PLEASE DON’T TRADE BARNES !!! This kid is for real and will a franchise player for us. Yes Kevin is a superstar but don’t trade our assets for him.
Broussard doesn't have a clue. KD may prefer other destinations, but it is also true that he really likes Toronto - the city, the fans, management, Drake - and the Raptors was his favourite team growing up. Everyone loves KD regadless of what he does.
Nets are punish KD. KD wants to build his broadcast media business. Going to Canada is good but he will not be able to get American Audience. I support Nets for doing this. These players signed max contract and then request to be traded to Miami, or LA because of the weather. Send KD to Raptors could be the solution going forward. Also, send Kyrie to Utah Jazz. No more LA or Miami as a their favorite destination.
I see your point but I don't think KD is landing in Toronto. And I don't know if Jazz would like to trade for Kyrie. Kyrie is less wanted asset at the moment.
i dont see kd in toronto unless they willing to take og anunoby , gary trent jr and Khem Birch (salary filler) with 4 first round picks and 3 swaps for durant. masai wont include siakam or barnes in any trade. i think the fans also dont want durant if it means gutting the team. they will just double KD, and raptors wont be contenders.
Chris Broussard said Toronto doesn't feel like an American city, it feels better than an American city because we don't have to dodge bullets flying past our heads!
siakam is the number 2 option on the team legitimately so if you trade him for durant plus players and picks, it guts the team and they will just double durant.
@@giovanni-ed7zq Pascal and draft compensation. Perhaps Khem Birch as salary filler. Scottie is ready to replace Pascal and would thrive alongside KD. Freddy, Scottie, OG, KD and Precious + Gary, Otto, Thaddeus and Chris Boucher seems like a great foundation. Not gutted at all.
@@karimw.9954 sports illustrated article said nets want 2 all starss and a coming young star and 4 first and 3 swaps in a trade for KD. masai is not doing that.
@@karimw.9954 bobby marks espn has reported scottie barnes is not on the table for any kd trade. kd has come out and said he doesnt want to be on a team that doesnt have at least 2 all stars. so that means no barnes, no fvv, and no siakam.
Look nets should just look for another trading partner because raptors will not give siakam or barnes in any trade for KD. I think the nets fans want this trade worse than raptors fans. If you look at the comments, raptors fans actually dont want KD on raptors if they have to gut the team to get him where they are no longer contenders. Teams will just double kd if the raptors gut their team.
Broussard saying African Americans don't like Toronto is ridiculous, it's got a big African Canadian population and it's one of the most diverse cities in North America
Toronto is literally the best city in North America in almost EVERY category & you all know that. The issue isn’t the city but in-fact JUST “basketball players” themselves. Star players tend to get the most love from Toronto, they are treated like literally heroes but then they start to get carried away/delusional & run to an American city and realize they are just another guy. Vince Carter, Kawhi Leonard, Tracy McGrady, Chris Bosh & even Serge Ibaka all openly mentioned how they miss Toronto & some talk about their regrets on leaving.
Kevin d is a good player but he is like 34 years old or something. He’s getting older for the nba and I wouldn’t give up Scottie Barnes for him. Scottie is a fonemenal player and he is still young. And we would have to give like 3 players for him or something. I believe it’s a waste. Raptors wouldn’t be the same without Scottie, siakam, or vanvleet. And the raptors would just be weird with Kevin.
There seems to be only 3 destinations that attract the big free agents, that's LA, San Fran, and Miami. NY looked like it was a FA destination again, it only lasted a year.
Canada isn’t “basically America”, we are our own nation. Stop the disrespect. I’m not going to say all Americans are self-centric, because that would be disrespectful, but these ones are.
@@GStampedeIII the United States is a super power so yeah we follow your politics but so does the rest of the world! And guess what, the rest of the world watches listens to American culture because it’s dominant. Just because Canadians do also doesn’t mean make us less of a country.
@@bonnie841 Our culture does not have to be dominant, it is just because others are jockin, so they want to be a part of this. If we were Canada or Chile, no one would care. Even Australia has it's own basketball league that even looks polished, but who knows outside of that region? I only knew because I was watching a website with an Australian satellite feed showing that ads.
Good to know that those guys hating on Toronto don't actually know anything. Go on Serge Ibakas cooking show where he interviewed Durant and he said it was all in the atmosphere. He didn't hate it BTWWW. Also, we already know that he likes Scotty Barnes as in a last season interview he praised Barnes. SO we know he'd love to play alongside Barnes. Also Durant mentioned how he like Toronto and that they were his preferred team growing up.
Idk what Broussard is talking about. Black people get treated better in Canada than in America. And as Nick said, Toronto is one of the most culturally diverse cities in North America
@@harinderrana9735 No, it is just that FL and TX have no state taxes and they are both in the southern part of the country, so many players go there to maximize their money.
I still say : Masai and Bobby would "never" do this trade. The moment K.D said he wanted a trade, Toronto said " is that right ? That's nice.! Needa a ride to Phoenix or Miami ?
I live in Toronto and this has to be the stupidest take. One of the most diverse cities out there. Also if I’m Toronto and the nets are asking for Scottie they can fly a kite. I ain’t giving up a future superstar for 4 years of kd. I get kd Is amazing and the second best player in the world but you also gotta look at the future. Scottie got real potential to be a future superstar in this league for the next 10-15 years you can’t give up that and more for kd.
Diversity in Toronto doesn’t mean black. Diversity in Toronto doesn’t even mean African-American. Most of the diversity comes from Asian countries. Pretty sure African-Americans don’t have much in common with that heritage.
Only problem and this was touched on, Kawhi joined a deep perennial 50 plus win team and even at that it took a miracle shot in round 2 to beat the 76rs and lets face it, a banged up Warriors team along with every other star in the universe aligning to win that title. The Raptors would be to gutted to have enough team around Durant. I'd rather see this team grow with Scottie even if it means a ceiling not quite at championship level.
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Canada with free medicare had 20,000 medical doctors in that stadium. Sitting on their seats from long distance without needing MRI or X-ray they immediately diagnosed that KD had a torn achilles. Those evil Canadian doctors then proceeded to cheer the torn achilles instead of the KD turnover. Every other team in the USA with no free medicare would have cheered the turnover instead of the torn achilles.
i just dont see the raptors parting with siakam or barnes in a durant trade. it guts the team and they are no longer contenders, and durant will just ask for a trade out of toronto. any trade for durant has to keep the starting line up of fvv siakam and barnes intact or its not worth trading for durant. its why i dont see durant coming to toronto unless nets willing to take og anunoby, gary trent jr and khem birch (filler) plus picks for durant. I dont see masai gutting the team. masai knows raptors with durant are not contenders without siakam and barnes. also i am happy if they dont do the durant trade and he goes elsewhere. i think the raptors are in a good place with young players developing and making playoffs again. all they needed was depth last year and they were going deep. masai got the raptors some depth for bench this year. raptors are fine without durant.
The Raptors offer has nothing to do with them both of them do your research
Good to know Antoine thinks Canada is one of his favourite cities.
hahahahaha you caught that too?
Americans know nothing about Canada for real..
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Lol Not Broussard tho
Canada is a great city but I will say this Toronto is also a great Country
I’m a black American who lived in Toronto for ten years. I spent some of the best years of my life there. I had three children. Fell in love with the Raptors. Celebrated a championship. Met people from all over the world, including Europe, Asia, Africa, South America, and the Middle East. Yes, there are some idiots there. But overall, you’re not judged by your skin color the same way you are in the States. Not even close. I’m not sure what Broussard is talking about. He sounds like a person who has absolutely no clue what life is like in Toronto.
Thank you for that! I'm really glad you feel that way!
Cuz CB never visited Toronto... He lyin
From the airport to his hotel. Maybe a resturant or two. Toronto maybe the most diverse city in the world!
He said it's "different from America and you feel it", which is true. If you're going to sit here and pretend like Black Canadians and Black Americans are super similar you're either lying or unbelievably unsocial.
@@two-literbowls5195 what does that have to do with a player who will be sheltered 99% of time. Its not like he'll be interacting with the population on a regular basis
Antoine "Canada is one of my favorite cities to hang out in" Walker
On everything that caught me instantly 😂
You never been to the City of Canada???
Man’s is slow af🤣💀
this is literally the level of understanding America has for the rest of the world lol
😭😭😭😭💀
Respectfully, this may be Broussard's worst take ever. To compare Scottie and Ben's shooting ability is crazy. I also get that Toronto is not America, but to frame it as an African-American specific thing is wild. Very multi-cultural city, a lot of diverse people from diverse backgrounds.
One of the most diverse cities in the world. It often ranks as one of the best cities to live in worldwide as well.
it’s a take centered around his own experience so it’s also unfair of you to completely dismiss what he sayin
Chris seems to talk for all African Americans saying its so diverse that blacks don't want to be there. FVV, Lowry, Gary Trent Jr are all loving it in Toronto. Gary Trent is a lot happier in Toronto than he was in Portland. I've noticed Stephen A and Chris always have a smug opinion on Toronto.
In my opinion the US is probably the worst country for a person of African descent to want to live in.
@@mike.cdn7212 Yeah I believe it's simply an anti-Canada bias because the country doesn't have all the same exact things America does. But in reality, meaning no disrespect, Toronto is a better city than half the cities hosting a team in the NBA. Like this dude played in OKC for 9 years and has Phoenix on his wish list lmao.
oh my god, Broussard should actually be fired for this. It’s one thing to say a bad take, but to attack a city really on baseless accusations is so tasteless. How many people in the NBA say Toronto is one of the classiest, well run organizations in the league today? You’re an analyst, so do your research before you succumb to stereotypes.
yeah, I am European but it almost sounded like African Americans are not wanted there. And I really doubt that.
Lol one guy says most diverse city ever other guy says its not for African Americans
As someone who lives in Vancouver, Broussard's take would be better suited for this city than Toronto lol.. When I go to Toronto there are so many African Americans there, mixed in with all different types of groups. The ones I speak to love Toronto more than America and say the people are nicer. Weird take.
Stop overreacting. It is tough for Toronto to retain top black American talent. He listed all the players…
Smug comments on Canada in general. Vancouver isn't that far from Seattle but how many people want the Sonics back? Toronto has quite a bit black people there and its quite diverse. Chris is right you do feel the difference once you cross the border but its clear Chris doesn't want any superstar in Toronto just like he couldn't wait for Kawhi to leave.
Man Chris is so wrong it’s sad he’s saying this
KD has said numerous times he loves Toronto. He even said they were his favorite team growing up. I don’t know what these clueless NBA analysts are talking about.
He should've went there in 2016. Him, Derozan and Lowry could have gave the Cavs a huge challenge but decided to take the easiest path possible and go with the 73 win team
He’s had over a decade to sign there and chose other options.
Its because they don't want to cover Toronto. Raptors games aren't really televised often. When Kawhi was there, they put out a feeling that they couldn't wait for him to leave for a another team moreso Los Angeles.
These guys are clowns
Yes that was said before he was injured and they cheered 🍻
Some of the craziest comments I’ve ever heard about Toronto lol
It’s sad how low American media will go to keep the Toronto Raptors down he put down the whole city and country because of basketball
Tracy McGrady and Vince Carter have both spoken at length of how much they regret leaving Toronto. Kawhi Leonard doesn't talk much, but I imagine in his heart, he now recognises that it would have been better for his career had he remained. Oh, and Masai Ujiri will never trade Scottie Barnes. I can't see Pascal Siakam being in any package for a 34 year old Durant either.
P.S. Toronto cheered Kevin Durant turning the ball over to Serge Ibaka, not that he was injured.
@JeremyCuddles While I'd have to go over the interviews and panel appearances to know exactly what Tracey McGrady said, from memory, it's snippets like 'had I stayed, we could have won a couple of champions, I don't mean to be disrespectful to any team, but come on, at least one', 'when I left, I had a bit of a chip on my shoulder, I was young, and as I found out, the grass isn't always greener', 'Kawhi, don't make the same mistake I did.' These are not direct quotes by McGrady, but the kinds of things I remember him saying over the years.
The 2000-01 Toronto Raptors had Vince Carter, Antonio Davis, Alvin Williams, Charles Oakley, Morris Peterson, Keon Clark, Dell Curry, Tracy Murray, Jerome Williams, and Chris Childs. They finished 5th in the East, with 47 wins. That same year Tracey McGrady averaged 26.8 points per game in Orlando. I'd say McGrady was worth at least 5 more wins, which would put them in second place, and you're looking at Eastern Conference finals or better. It also would have made the Raptors so much harder to defend against, with two guys who can score 30 without breaking a sweat, plus Davis, and the emerging Morris Peterson.
There's a lot of he said, she said from that era, but the team was good, and held so much more potential. And of course, if you've got Carter and McGrady in their prime, it'll make people want to take a pay cut to win the silverware.
That's the only way Toronto will ever attract well regarded free agents: when they're winning. Because if they're not, there's the weather, the fact it's a different country (even if incredibly similar), and the taxes. To this day, Hedo Türkoğlu remains the most coveted free agent the Raptors have ever signed. He was spotted at a nightclub after missing a game with a "stomach virus", and was traded the following off season.
@JeremyCuddles tmac did say it I seen it just type tmac regrets leaving Toronto
As a Canadian, I lost a lot of respect for Broussard after watching this
Cannot believe he said that on TV about a country and a city with absolutely ignorance out of his mouth and you’re a preacher you’re a man of God that was disgusting just because you don’t want to basketball player in Toronto
The " feeling" is called being safe.
“Canada is one of my favourite cities to hang out in”. Canada is not a city bruh.
Lmao
LMAOOOO
Dang Bruh Antoine not the sharpest tool in the shed
Ong he off that fentanyl
lol....Americans Also think England is London....no geography teachers??
Toronto is one of the most culturally diverse cities on the planet. It’s crazy to me that Broussard can be so uneducated on the subject even though he “covered” the team.
It makes some sense to me. Being culturally diverse and feeling at home as a black person can be two separate things. There are proportionally a lot more black people in America and in certain cities it skews a lot more. Black community in America and black community in Canada are not the same. In Canada being black is almost like any other minority but in America there's so much history there and clashes that it's just not that same.
@@glen1742 “feeling at home as a black person” is entirely an opinion of that specific person’s view. CULTURALLY DIVERSE can be a proven fact based on population lol. A black in America is a minority like in any other place. Stop this nonsense lol
He’s talking about black Americans. This is a conversation black people will understand. Black Americans are different from the black people here in Toronto culturally. We’re of Caribbean and African decent. We’re either born in the Caribbean or Africa or our parents are from there. These guys mom, father, grandmother and even great grandparents are American! The US is all they know. We don’t share the same culture with black Americans . For example rap music is their culture. Growing up as kid in the Caribbean nobody listened to rap music and if you did people were like wtf is that music ? Put on some reggae, put on some soca. That’s our music not rap music. He’s talking about black Americans and how they would fit in here! You guy’s just think oh they’re all black so they can fit in with each other. I never understood why people always say take them to caribana. What make’s you guy’s think a black American knows anything about caribana ? That’s not their culture and must of them don’t understand it. Many African’s living here don’t even understand caribaba because it’s specifically Caribbean culture not just some black get together.“
It’s like taking a white man of Swedish heritage and putting him amongst white people from Alabama or Mississippi and thinking they have something in common because they’re all white. Broussard Came of sounding foolish but I understand what he’s trying to say. If I go Fred Vanvleet and start playing soca music for him you think he knows what that is ? It’s not his culture. Boucher know’s soca music because he’s originally from the Caribbean so it’s easy for him to go to caribana and understand what’s going on. If you take Fred there he’s clueless and that’s what you guys don’t understand about his comment.
@@str8factztv299 thank you for explaining your point of view. I understand what you mean but ultimately, as you said, the argument sounds foolish and ignorant. It’s like if someone said: “I don’t know if the Warriors can keep Wiggins, he is Canadian after all!”
@@Geeandrezzi if u think being black in America is just like being a minority in Canada then I don't really know what to tell u. As Str8ghtfacts said their parents and grandparents and great grandparents were American. There is history there. It's something that I as a 1st generation South Asian Canadian can not understand. Not every minority has the same experience or are treated the same way. No one is claiming what Brussard said is a fact, we acknowledge its an opinion; all we are saying is we understand where Brussard is coming from and why he may personally feel that way.
Canada is really a great city
😂😂
Biggest city in the history of earth!! Nearly as big as the whole state of Africa!
Broussard never fails to disappoint
I was like wtf is this guy talking about
As a Raptors fan.. DO NOT TRADE BARNES OR THERE CORE FOR Durant.. don’t do it please don’t do it
Truth
Besides scottie I'd be willing to let go if any of them
Exactly
@@mikeyisniceha for a 34 year old injury ridden KD .. he’s played less then Kyrie over the last 3 years dude
They won't. They aren't stupid
No way I'm giving up Barnes and siakim for 35 year old kd who just got swept in round 1. Especially when KD has shown he will leave any situation for any minor inconvenience
KD put up wit russ for way too long for you to say he’ll leave at any minor inconvenience
@@_r.i.t.z._81 yes he quit on the nets. with no siakam or barnes as 2nd and 3rd option they will just double kd, and the raptors will not be contenders with durant. KD will ask for a trade out of toronto the next year. its not worth trading for durant if siakam or barnes are leaving in trade. i say stay with what they got, raptors won 48 this year with a bad first half and new guys learning the system. The current raptors team with bench depth now will win 50-57 games next year having played a year together and having learned the system.
@@giovanni-ed7zq the raptors would prolly have to give up too much to win i don’t have a problem wit that take. i jus think it’s very unfair to say he’s proven to leave at any minor inconvenience jus cause he wanted out of a bizarre situation wit the nets
Did Brou really say being African-American in Toronto is a problem? lmao
Finally someone brought this up. Wtf is he on about? Like is he insinuating that Toronto is unfriendly to black Americans? Maybe just Americans…but the undertone that uh-oh Canada is so foreign and suspect for “African-Americans” is just a base and uncultured perspective
@@techronin_ I think he is insinuating the "Culture" difference between African-American's & Black Canadians would leave you to not really feel "in" or "at home" aside from having the same skin color.
@@techronin_ Like for instance, to bring into reference my own ethnicity, an Italian American will have a different experience if they go chill with italians in Argentina or Australia and especially in Italy. It's a WHOLE different vibe & culture that was created here by different experiences & hardships vs. the other countries Italians fled to.
@@noname-ni1qt Bro. No lmao trust me, we have a TON of black communities here in T.O. I call Toronto "NY's little brother" because that's literally how it is. Smaller population in general, so smaller community sizes, but same general vibes. Broussard was out of pocket for saying this, and it spoke to the ignorance of these peoples' perception of Canada. Antoine calling Canada "his favourite city" is also telling of the geographic prowess these geniuses have.
@@SalKhayer You seem to be from Canada haha so ill take your word. I was just hoping to give them the of the doubt, bu it seems like they might not need it lol.
Kawhi could have landed in any city not named LA and still signed elsewhere, it’s really not the stick you can beat this team with.
What are you trying to say
@@kariuki5845 that Kawhi leaving Toronto isn’t proof that nobody wants to play there. He was going to LA no matter where he played that season
maybe but it’s still a pattern that you can’t deny
@@ryanolson2308 ahhhh thank you I didn’t understand what he was trying to say
Exactly…. LA was home. He came close to resigning with Toronto. Home I home can’t beat that.
He’s openly said he loves playing in Toronto & loves the fans he would not have a problem w getting traded to Toronto
Like he said about GSW and Nets...so let's see when he gets there
I don't get broussards take of African Americans won't stay here due to diversity. As Nick pointed out 2 minutes before, Toronto is incredibly diverse and a massive city. Look at places like Utah, Milwaukee, Minnesota.. how diverse are they? I hate all the stereo-types of Toronto that are just not true, other than being Canadian we should be a top 5 market to go to due to the fan-base, quality of life, coaching/management. I live in dt Toronto, and have traveled to all the big cities in the states and its absolutely comparable.
He’s talking about an African-American presence. All of those cities still have more African-Americans than a place like Toronto. A lot of the diversity in Toronto comes from Asian countries. The Black people that live there are overwhelmingly from the Caribbean and Africa. Those cultures are not the same as an African-American culture. So I can see why they might feel homesick.
@@thezu9250 you’re completely wrong. Toronto’s black population alone exceeds the entire population (all races) of cities like Miami, Oakland, Cleveland, and New Orleans
@@adinc2293 What’s funny is if you go by percentages, all of those cities have a higher black population than Toronto. Besides, he said African-Americans. Not black ppl in general.
@@adinc2293 The percentage of Black people is much higher. So huh? Besides, what percentage of Black Canadians are from the US? All of those cities have African American Black people in total numbers. Toronto has people of African or Caribbean descent. Thats a much different culture. Its like talking about how many Italian people when the person is Swedish.
@@thezu9250 I’m guessing you haven’t been to Toronto so I won’t bother
Bro said Canada was a city lmao
6:05. The fans were cheering the turnover that happened just before that.
The arena was in the moment of what was happening
Dont lie, as a raptors fan myself, we were all happy to see KD go down at that moment. Lets be honest
@@y00ng0 wrong. When KD was scheduled to play I thought he was ok and ready to play.
@@y00ng0 speak for yourself
Stop the 🧢
I'm a raptors fan and I don't want KD. We'd have to trade Scottie Barnes and then match salaries by trading OG and maybe Gary Trent Jr. We don't really have a bench, we still are lacking at the center position and can't rely on a rookie that was the 33rd pick. It makes no sense because we won't even have a team to compete with left.
I mostly support Kawhi and Clippers and I also don't see too much point in you trading for him for the reasons you've mentioned. It is what it is.
If we could trade him for a few pics and khem birch I’d be into it lmao
@@mounthope2567 not gonna happen
I doubt It’ll cost Scottie. I’m thinking Trent and OG with 4 firsts.
@@Kodreanu23 obviously not. But that’s the only scenario where I would want kd
Brou…..it’s better to be an African American in Toronto than the USA 🤣
Its true, you know how many people from Detroit or Cleveland prefer Toronto 😂
Fire Boussard for his comment about Toronto being a racist city.
The irony here, is that all of these Scottie Barnes trade for KD coverage just show how special Scottie Barnes is. As there is no rumours of the Nets wanting Cade Cunningham or Evan Mobley for KD.
It’s because he straight up wouldn’t play for the Pistons or Cleveland. Also if it was a three team trade then the Cavs wouldn’t move Mobley.
raptors are not trading siakam or barnes because they are no longer contenders even with durant. they will just double durant with no siakam and barnes.
Just mouth breathers on this show. Abysmal
As much as i love you Antoine, "Canada is one of favorites cities to be in..." 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Being from Canada, I got nothing 🤣
🇨🇦 🍁 🇨🇦
Toronto is such a great country!
I have been to Canada before, it's a nice little city. I saw their castle and everything. I even saw a Canadian official named Truedo in front of a crowd while I was there. Unfortunately, I didn't get to see their leader. I heard they call her a queen or princess. It would have been nice to take pictures with her.
canada really is a great city, love that little neighborhood called toronto too
lol
As a Raptors fan the best offer that I would make to the Nets would be OG (17M) + GTJ (17M) + Birch (6M) + Two 1st Round Picks. The money is close enough to the Durant money and, I think talent wise, other teams would be tough to beat that given the trade restriction rules on the Nets (due to Ben Simmons max rookie extension). Maybe I might go Three 1st Round Picks, especially if the Nets add in Seth Curry but then the money needs to balance. Basically, this trade leaves the Raptors in a position to be a strong contender that has a chance to win it all, and the Nets have a solid young talent base committed to developing their craft with no drama. As for the Wolves deal, they seriously over-paid for Rudy Gobert. Their mistake is not the standard.
Their mistake is the standard now, every GM will use it.
@@joshuap935 It's hard to believe Masai would be involved in any trade like that. So for it to be the "standard," I would also assume then that Masai would be out of the talks, but it actually appears based on Vegas betting odds, the Raptors are the frontrunner with the best package. Suns do have a Hail Mary third team out of no where option that the Nets have suggested they do. /maybe /shrugs Sorry best I got.
That’s a terrible trade lol
Two starters and a rotation piece plus two picks that will likely be late in the draft is a low ball for Durant
As a neutral person Barnes needs to be in it or don’t call them.
Yo… Did Broussard just called canadians racist?! 🤯
These superstars have been demanding trades earlier and earlier into their contracts and now a superstar wants moved with four years left. These superstar's actions will have big ramifications on the average player. The owners are going to take the Player's Association to the woodshed when this CBA is up. It's gonna get ugly.
Every trade a player has asked for a team has done too. Early in the year and late. Teams and players do this. And teams have been doing it longer.
@@youtubeonbullshhidontlikeg9817 That's fair. I still think two players shouldn't be able to destroy a franchise the way Kyrie and KD did it just now. This isn't right man lol
@@christiandouyon9739 lmao if they had better ownership they could've avoided this by never firing their old coach and signing Nash.
I'm not sure why Chris Broussard brought up rhace, because when I was in Toronto, I saw blaks of some type. I only felt differently by not being from there. In Montreal - which is less diverse, if you will, I felt fine there too! Once they know that you are from the US, they feel happy that you actually want to go to Canada! They also want to give you a speech about how evil your government is, even though theirs is right in bed with them.
Broussard is delusional that’s why. T-Mac, Vince carter and Kwahi didn’t leave because of race issues. T-Mac and carter left because that team at the time were in the lottery every year. Kawhi left because he wanted to go back home.
@@rayrenz3599 uh, Tmac left cause he didn’t want to be in cousin Vince’s shadow anymore lol. Vince left cause the front office he was comfy with was fired. Not sure where you got a playoff team every year being a “lottery team” as the reason they left lmao
Toronto has a lot of islanders and Africans. I don't know what Chris is talking about.
I believed what Broussard meant is that Black Americans would feel out of place in Canada because they have a distinctive culture that only exists in America. Over the centuries Black Americans have established their own culture and home in America. They have a long history in America going back over 400 years in some cases. Their culture and experience is intertwined in American history. Their culture and influence has a lot to do with how America is seen today. Black Americans in many cases have been in America for as long as they can remember. This means their parents, grandparents, great grandparents and many generations have been Americans. Asking a Black American where you come from is like asking a White American where you come from. They only know what continent they come from and that's it; for Blacks Africa and Whites Europe. Black Americans are not recent comers or immigrants. That's why they're distinctive from other black people like the Caribbeans and Africans. Those recent comers come from different cultures and still have strong ties to their homeland like most immigrants do. They speak a different language and eat their traditional food and usually identifies themselves with the country they're from or where their parents or grandparents come from. They have their own music, wear their traditional clothing, go to carnivals and do other traditional things. In many African traditions, a man needs to pay the woman family in order to marry her. For a Black American, this would be a cultural shock living in a place where their culture and people are missing. Plus it would require a lot of adjustments to try to fit in a new place with people whose culturally and distinctively different from them. In America, they have their own culture, they own neighborhoods, cities traditions, language and unique history in America. America is their home where they built for centuries. So it would make sense for them to not want to live in a foreign place. I believe that's where Chris Broussard was coming from. It has nothing to do with Canada not being culturally diverse. He was speaking strictly from an Black American prospective.
@@jmatheman1 I think that he was simply playing the rhacial propaganda card. Other blaks and other people play in the NBA too.
KD literally said he didnt care if the fans cheered. It was all fun and games, even called the fans classy.
When did he say this? That is totally different than the interviews that I saw from him and his mom.
@@RITAS1964 When he was on Serge Ibaka’s cooking show. Tried to link the tweet/video below.
I’m not even from Canada but it’s Toronto is 1 of the most diverse places in the world lmao
Just an absurd comment from bru. I’m from Toronto, we are so diverse
This 'diversity' thing is only a concern for players from other parts of the world and the powers that be who keep acting as if blaks care about that. Blaks don't benefit from being in a city full of Chinese, Italians, East Indians and Mexicans.
The diversity comes from Asian countries. There are literally more people of Chinese descent and there are of all the Caribbean and African countries combined! So please stop pretending like as if African-Americans are magically going to have something in common with people from different countries just because they are black.
Toronto is different towards African Americans because Torontonians are not RACIST
Vancouver is not far away from Seattle.
Exactly and how many people want the Sonics back? 😂
@@mike.cdn7212 However many people in WA state.
Top 10 Livable cities 2022
1- Vienna, Austria.
3- Zurich, Switzerland & Calgary, Canada.
5- Vancouver, Canada.
6- Geneva, Switzerland.
7- Frankfurt, Germany.
8- Toronto, Canada.
Facts are hard to swallow for Fox. 😂😂
"I like Canada, it's one of my favourite cities".. Bruh.. Canada is bigger than the US
yeah with 1/10 the population of the US.
Uninhabitable frozen tundra doesn't count
@@GStampedeIII still bigger, get yur weight up
@@ScruffsX all that weight is in snow, ice, & poutine... keep all that s*** up there
not trying to defend him, but maybe he was thinking of Toronto, but was just saying Canada.
I was born and raised in Toronto, Canada and Nick just completely killed me when at minute 2:10 he goes "...they speak ENGLISH!"🤣🤣
It was to clarify for his co panellists
Has the media learned nothing. You can’t decimate a team by adding a superstar and expect to still win. Someone still has to do the dirty work.
Teams haven't learned this yet either.
Chris Broussard is one of my favourite sports analyst but man his take on Toronto is way off here that it's disappointing. Born and raised as a Torontonian, our inability to keep NBA superstars here at this point in time has nothing to do with them being African American 😂. Also Kawhi left for an opportunity to play at home which none of these guys brought up.
Torontonians are just confused a chris's take. You literally will see a different race every next person in toronto. The city has such a strong carribbean influence even white kids talk like Jamaicans. Cmon bruh.
Canada is a beautiful city from what I hear 😜
Do you mean Toronto? Because Canada is a country smart guy.
@@carltonatkins2333 it’s sarcasm
So is Columbia.
There’s like 12 black NBA players from Toronto at this very moment.
Chris is a sad case
Chris has no idea what he's talking about with Toronto.
Exactly what I was thinking lol
He's right about black American folk not wanting to live there.. 👀
@@GStampedeIII don't know why though... like I get the weather but there are far more discriminatory practices in most states in comparison. Also, Toronto is rated one of the best cities in the world to live in.
New York and Toronto have the SAME weather
@@techservetohub5935 the fact you think Canada is so much less discriminatory is another reason...
Ujiri is sharp, he won't gut his team for KD but if he can get him without losing too much, he'll make the deal.
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Antoine just basically said yeah for sure I’d trade for KD if I’m Toronto… if I get to keep every single asset anyone even wants.
34-year-old Durant? They want way too much for him. And Kawhi Leonard is an idiot for leaving..
Kawhi is screwing the Clippers right now, I am sure Toronto is good without him.
@@mike.cdn7212 I guess you can say it was meant to be.
Praising Masai as a great executive then contemplating if he would trade Barnes. Of course the Raptors won’t trade Barnes to get Durant.
Bru and Nick have said multiple times a star player is not going to command a return of equal value in terms of other star players. The Nets are not going to get a young star in return for KD. Not Barnes; Adebayo; or Booker.
LOL. You are trading for Kevin Durant and not just some disgruntled star off the street. Barnes and pieces would not be even equal in value to the marketing and on court production you would get with KD.
@@dyeremi Barnes no sense as a demand money wise. Durant for Barnes + the bench is just dumb. Masai is known as being smart and making deals that always favor him.
Two things don't add up here.
@@dyeremi KD is 34 and injury prone
No barnes=no kd
I would hate a Barnes for Durant trade
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What does Broussard mean by Toronto and African-Americans?
I think he means that culturally, it would be different for AAs than in the US. To be fair, he’s not wrong.
Canada is definitely a top 10 city, mayor Trudeau is doing a lot of interesting stuff over there
Trudeau is a tyrant
im from toronto and i wouldnt play in toronto.
Toronto as a city is better than more cities in America except maybe a few
"It's not America, and you feel it when you're there, I'm telling you, especially as an African-American. It's a different situation than African-Americans are used to being in." Considering how African-Americans are usually treated in America, isn't this a good thing?
People can still feel homesick.
*Tf is Brew talking about "It's difficult for African Americans in Toronto?" It's probably the most diverse city.*
Nick is right on this one. The problem is TO would have to give up a lot to get him...so then who is KD playing with in the end? When Kawhi came in, it worked because he basically replaced DeRozan 1 for 1, but with this they'd have to give up too much imo
He's actually wrong..they don't have to give up all three of those guys...these guys don't want KD to come to TO that's why they spinning this narrative, trying to come up with every negative reason why he shouldn't come to TO, they not doing this for any of the other teams.
Lol keep underestimating the man they call MASAI ....aka the fleece king 🤴 🙌
yep the raptors are not as deep as the 2018 team. they lose siakam and barnes they are not a contender. so no point trading for durant as they will be worse off than having him with no siakam or barnes. just the offenced and defence you lose in the deal doesnt make up for the 30-40 ppg and defence rebounds steals and blocks you gonna lose for durant who will give you 28-30ppg with no defence.
Depends if there's a third team involved. Idk.
@@nicktolentino8250 i dont see raptors doing a 3rd team trade to give up more assets to get KD. The current team will win 50-57 games next season with the added bench depth they have now. Raptors are fine without KD. Their window is still good with a young team.
Fan base that legit cheered when KD tore his Achilles doesn’t deserve his services.
he’s already said it was a heat of the moment thing and he understands when he was on Ibaka’s show
They did not CHEER because he got HURT. They CHEERED because he got up. Get it straight
Seems like the fans are more affected by this then KD himself
@@sharona7428 Wrong.
“I’ve talked to people in the organization pre-Ujiri”….. so a decade ago? So much for being “well-connected”
I'm curious what part of Toronto is Bru hanging out in? Vaughn? It's one of the most diverse cities in the world. Why would he feel... whatever as a black man in TO?
Ain’t like he looks like Patrick Ewing either dude is lightskinned in TO nobody would know or care that he was black
I believed what Broussard meant is that Black Americans would feel out of place in Canada because they have a distinctive culture that only exists in America. Over the centuries Black Americans have established their own culture and home in America. They have a long history in America going back over 400 years in some cases. Their culture and experience is intertwined in American history. Their culture and influence has a lot to do with how America is seen today. Black Americans in many cases have been in America for as long as they can remember. This means their parents, grandparents, great grandparents and many generations have been Americans. Asking a Black American where you come from is like asking a White American where you come from. They only know what continent they come from and that's it; for Blacks Africa and Whites Europe. Black Americans are not recent comers or immigrants. That's why they're distinctive from other black people like the Caribbeans and Africans. Those recent comers come from different cultures and still have strong ties to their homeland like most immigrants do. They speak a different language and eat their traditional food and usually identifies themselves with the country they're from or where their parents or grandparents come from. They have their own music, wear their traditional clothing, go to carnivals and do other traditional things. In many African traditions, a man needs to pay the woman family in order to marry her. For a Black American, this would be a cultural shock living in a place where their culture and people are missing. Plus it would require a lot of adjustments to try to fit in a new place with people whose culturally and distinctively different from them. In America, they have their own culture, they own neighborhoods, cities traditions, language and unique history in America. America is their home where they built for centuries. So it would make sense for them to not want to live in a foreign place. I believe that's where Chris Broussard was coming from. It has nothing to do with Canada not being culturally diverse. He was speaking strictly from an Black American prospective.
@@jmatheman1 The world is not just black and white. Living in the states one of the issues that Canadians won't understand the states have separate communities where you have blacks in one place, then whites in another. Toronto is all mixed; not sure how anyone can complain about that or they need to get out of their bubble, cause we can't have a future with its current state
@@TRINI818 Canada is predominantly White. It's only the inner cities that are more mixed there. Anywhere else is mainly White and a few places with Natives. Whereas in America you can find small towns with Black folks or Hispanics or Whites and certain areas with Native Americans. The big cities or inner cities in America are usually more mixed with people from many backgrounds. However, I wasn't referring to that. I was referring to Black Americans not having a big community presence in Canada for them to feel at home. The Jamaicans, Haitians and other Caribbeans and Africans have a big community presence in Canada. It's the same with the Asians, Indians, Arabs, Middles easterns in Canada. When these people come to Canada they can fit in more easily and find people from their community. This wouldn't be the same case for Black Americans. Their community only exist in America because Black Americans don't typically move and immigrate to other countries like Africans, Carribeans and other immigrants do. Their people, community, culture and history is only found in America. They wouldn't have that in Canada or any other country. This doesn't mean that Canada would discriminate against them. They could fit in Canada but they would feel more home sick compare to other minorities since they don't have people like them there. In Canada they would be the minorities of the minorities. They would have to try and fit in with Carribeans and Africans or other minorities like Indians, Middle eastern while at the same time adjusting to White Canadian culture with hockey and everything. That's where Chris Broussard was getting at. He wasn't trying to make Canada look bad or anything.
Kyrie preLebron: 0 playoff games
Kyrie after leaving Lebron:
17-18: Injured before playoffs, team go to ECF game 7 without him.
18-19: Historically bad series vs Bucks, shoots 30% FG and 18% 3PT, loses round 2, leaves team. (Giannis made more 3’s than Kyrie in series)
19-20: Plays 20 games with losing record, doesn’t play in playoffs for Nets who made it despite him missing the whole year
20-21: Injured in playoffs, loses round 2. Losing record without Harden all year.
21-22: Plays 20 games with losing record, gets swept first round and averages 15.3 PPG on 37% FG in the last 3/4 games.
He would be a Kemba Walker clone without Lebron, Harden, and Durant. FREE KD.
Agree with everything besides the “Free KD” he chose to play with him and the nets did everything KD asked them too. KD deserves more blame than sympathy
KD left GSW to join that 🤡. He doesn't get a pass for that
buddy, you are way one sided. Kyrie had a 50/40/90 year previous season. He was balling.
What’s Dame lillard playoff stats for the same years?
@@BigKing17 Led team to western conference finals as best player and lost to dynasty Warriors. Kyrie could never
These guys are clowns. I’m from Toronto you guys may think New York and LA are multicultural but wait until you walk the streets of Toronto. Every single person is a different shade. So much African American culture, we host the largest Caribbean festival, Caribana every summer. Free agents from the outside looking in are not inclined strictly because they think it’s a big shift away from family. That’s the only reason kWhi left. Tmac and Vince have both stated they regret leaving. And every player that comes to the city loves it. If you get a chance to experience Toronto, there’s no place like it in the world.
What African-American culture is in Toronto? Nearly all the black culture comes from Caribbean or African influences. Stop capping.
@@thezu9250 how are you telling me and you’re not even from the city LOL. We have so much Jamaican and east African culture even our English has patois and Somali influence. You’re an idiot.
So disappointed in first things first. KD just wants to ball and knows this is an elite organization. Media can put Toronto down all they want. What difference does it make if he's already got the contract. Money and championships over here up north.
KD’s not the only one to hear this trash, others could believe it. If KD signs his image would do a 180 and likely resign
Ngl I said during the 76ers series kd on Toronto would literally be perfect they have everything even if they have to trade a couple of pieces
its not worth trading siakam or barnes cuz raptors will have no 2nd and 3rd legit scoring option. gutting the team for durant makes the trade not worth doing. i believe masai will pass on the KD trade.
Canada is my number 3 city, right behind Circuit City and City Wok. Paradise City is also extremely nice in the spring (girls are very pretty).
As someone who lived in Toronto, it’s a great city,Durant will be a basketball God if he goes to Toronto & wins a championship
OG, Gary Trent Jr, Khem Birch, Malachi Flynn, 4 1sts, 3 pick swaps
Who’s giving them a better package
the sports illustrated report says the nets want 2 allstars plus a young player and 4 first and 3 swaps for durant. i dont see masai making this trade.
@@giovanni-ed7zq yeah but are the nets going to get that from anyone? what team can give up anywhere near that much for KD and still be a contender?
@@connorbrennan4631 its why nets have no takers. they gonna have to accept less or play him and try to trade him during the season or next year. next year a year older they get less likely than now.
In current roster, Barns is the only player whom will not be put in any trade package. If Nets agrees, Raps will package one of Siakam or OG,+ Gary Trent Jr. + multi 1st round picks. Personally, my ideal raps core next season is: FVV-OG-Barns-KD.
Raptor fan here, PLEASE DON’T TRADE BARNES !!! This kid is for real and will a franchise player for us. Yes Kevin is a superstar but don’t trade our assets for him.
Broussard doesn't have a clue. KD may prefer other destinations, but it is also true that he really likes Toronto - the city, the fans, management, Drake - and the Raptors was his favourite team growing up. Everyone loves KD regadless of what he does.
The Toronto Raptors, city of Toronto, city of Vancouver, and country of Canada deserve a public apology for what was said today.
Nets are punish KD. KD wants to build his broadcast media business. Going to Canada is good but he will not be able to get American Audience. I support Nets for doing this. These players signed max contract and then request to be traded to Miami, or LA because of the weather. Send KD to Raptors could be the solution going forward. Also, send Kyrie to Utah Jazz. No more LA or Miami as a their favorite destination.
I see your point but I don't think KD is landing in Toronto. And I don't know if Jazz would like to trade for Kyrie. Kyrie is less wanted asset at the moment.
Are you serious right now this is what you come up with
i dont see kd in toronto unless they willing to take og anunoby , gary trent jr and Khem Birch (salary filler) with 4 first round picks and 3 swaps for durant. masai wont include siakam or barnes in any trade. i think the fans also dont want durant if it means gutting the team. they will just double KD, and raptors wont be contenders.
Chris Broussard said Toronto doesn't feel like an American city, it feels better than an American city because we don't have to dodge bullets flying past our heads!
As a Raptors fan, Pascal and draft compensation is the only avenue I'd consider.
siakam is the number 2 option on the team legitimately so if you trade him for durant plus players and picks, it guts the team and they will just double durant.
@@giovanni-ed7zq Pascal and draft compensation. Perhaps Khem Birch as salary filler. Scottie is ready to replace Pascal and would thrive alongside KD.
Freddy, Scottie, OG, KD and Precious + Gary, Otto, Thaddeus and Chris Boucher seems like a great foundation. Not gutted at all.
@@karimw.9954 sports illustrated article said nets want 2 all starss and a coming young star and 4 first and 3 swaps in a trade for KD. masai is not doing that.
@@giovanni-ed7zq who is capable of offering that package?
@@karimw.9954 bobby marks espn has reported scottie barnes is not on the table for any kd trade. kd has come out and said he doesnt want to be on a team that doesnt have at least 2 all stars. so that means no barnes, no fvv, and no siakam.
Broussard sounding like a 🤡 outchea
Look nets should just look for another trading partner because raptors will not give siakam or barnes in any trade for KD. I think the nets fans want this trade worse than raptors fans. If you look at the comments, raptors fans actually dont want KD on raptors if they have to gut the team to get him where they are no longer contenders. Teams will just double kd if the raptors gut their team.
Broussard saying African Americans don't like Toronto is ridiculous, it's got a big African Canadian population and it's one of the most diverse cities in North America
Yeah but how many AAs live in Toronto?
Toronto is literally the best city in North America in almost EVERY category & you all know that. The issue isn’t the city but in-fact JUST “basketball players” themselves. Star players tend to get the most love from Toronto, they are treated like literally heroes but then they start to get carried away/delusional & run to an American city and realize they are just another guy. Vince Carter, Kawhi Leonard, Tracy McGrady, Chris Bosh & even Serge Ibaka all openly mentioned how they miss Toronto & some talk about their regrets on leaving.
I found Broussard’s 1993 Toronto Itinerary: private jet, 4 Seasons Hotel, groceries from Whole Foods, watch Maple Leaf game, Hotel, Private Jet.
Kevin d is a good player but he is like 34 years old or something. He’s getting older for the nba and I wouldn’t give up Scottie Barnes for him. Scottie is a fonemenal player and he is still young. And we would have to give like 3 players for him or something. I believe it’s a waste. Raptors wouldn’t be the same without Scottie, siakam, or vanvleet. And the raptors would just be weird with Kevin.
There seems to be only 3 destinations that attract the big free agents, that's LA, San Fran, and Miami. NY looked like it was a FA destination again, it only lasted a year.
Antonie is Canada the largest city in America??
The tax situation could be a reason, a lot of hockey players rather play in the US because of that.
it's 100% this but everyone else thinks it's racial.. no MF's.. star players get paid alot and want to keep their money just like everyone else.. gg
Toronto is not trading both Barnes & Siakim.
Canada isn’t “basically America”, we are our own nation. Stop the disrespect. I’m not going to say all Americans are self-centric, because that would be disrespectful, but these ones are.
Lmfaoooooo 💀💀💀
You sound like Americans, listen to American music, follow american politics.. heck you're watching American TV on America youtube right now lol
@@GStampedeIII the United States is a super power so yeah we follow your politics but so does the rest of the world! And guess what, the rest of the world watches listens to American culture because it’s dominant. Just because Canadians do also doesn’t mean make us less of a country.
I wish that you would get your own SPORTS LEAGUES to show that you are your own country!
@@bonnie841 Our culture does not have to be dominant, it is just because others are jockin, so they want to be a part of this. If we were Canada or Chile, no one would care. Even Australia has it's own basketball league that even looks polished, but who knows outside of that region? I only knew because I was watching a website with an Australian satellite feed showing that ads.
Good to know that those guys hating on Toronto don't actually know anything. Go on Serge Ibakas cooking show where he interviewed Durant and he said it was all in the atmosphere. He didn't hate it BTWWW. Also, we already know that he likes Scotty Barnes as in a last season interview he praised Barnes. SO we know he'd love to play alongside Barnes. Also Durant mentioned how he like Toronto and that they were his preferred team growing up.
Why dont yall come up with mock trades with cade and evan mobley? We know why you wont. We are not the same bruh.
Our completely finished with having everyone in studio now?
Idk what Broussard is talking about. Black people get treated better in Canada than in America. And as Nick said, Toronto is one of the most culturally diverse cities in North America
I like Toronto but it is really cold there in December, January and February.
winter also exists in many American cities lol
"Truck to the plane to the truck, truck to the hotel looobby"
So is Cleveland, Detroit, Minnesota, New York (worst snow storms than here), Denver......
@@mattcarberry368 Yeah that's why top NBA players prefer the warm weather cities these cold weather cities have to over pay to get top end players.
@@harinderrana9735 No, it is just that FL and TX have no state taxes and they are both in the southern part of the country, so many players go there to maximize their money.
MORE RAPTORS TALK. WE THE NORTH!!!
Scottie Barnes for KD. Toronto would be crazy to do that
I never understood what Chris said, do if your black you don't want to live in Canada. We are a very diverse country.
I didn't understand his nonsense either. He is a whyte dude anyway.
I still say : Masai and Bobby would "never" do this trade. The moment K.D said he wanted a trade, Toronto said " is that right ? That's nice.! Needa a ride to Phoenix or Miami ?
I live in Toronto and this has to be the stupidest take. One of the most diverse cities out there. Also if I’m Toronto and the nets are asking for Scottie they can fly a kite. I ain’t giving up a future superstar for 4 years of kd. I get kd Is amazing and the second best player in the world but you also gotta look at the future. Scottie got real potential to be a future superstar in this league for the next 10-15 years you can’t give up that and more for kd.
Diversity in Toronto doesn’t mean black. Diversity in Toronto doesn’t even mean African-American. Most of the diversity comes from Asian countries. Pretty sure African-Americans don’t have much in common with that heritage.
Only problem and this was touched on, Kawhi joined a deep perennial 50 plus win team and even at that it took a miracle shot in round 2 to beat the 76rs and lets face it, a banged up Warriors team along with every other star in the universe aligning to win that title. The Raptors would be to gutted to have enough team around Durant. I'd rather see this team grow with Scottie even if it means a ceiling not quite at championship level.