And people say that footy was better when you could hit people. I'd rather watch a talented footballer play than watch a thug hospitalize that talented player. While I'm not happy with all of the suspensions this season I find it preferable to a Superstar watching the game on tv and eating their dinner with a straw
Yeah mate and the thing is that's it's evident right down to the grass roots level and I've even experienced it in under 18s. Some truly sickening shit and I reckon that assault is assault, whether a football field is involved or not
This, this ALL OF THIS!!! yeah ok the rough and tumble can look cool until you realise those are actual people and they have actual consiquences to being flattened by stupid punches or tackles. I love this game and it's not as brutal as it was, but in the sake of player safety, that is a-okay with me
Absolutely. It has been cleaned up to the point where the thug offers a fake apology unlike back then when they went home with a big grin on their face and probably jerked off watching it being replayed.
That last one was disgusting. O'Dea should have been charged and banned from football. The club should have been fined for ruining that player's career.
when a player cops a suspension for intentionally hurting another player they should also have the time it takes the other player to get back to pre injury form added to the suspension.
Let's say the incident happens in R19 between a star player like Petracca and a squad player like McNeil. If you knew that, as the dogs, you were going to match up with the Dee's in the first round, would you not say that McNeil is still out injured so that Petracca has to be benched? Just a thought
I remember watching that Ling hit and felt like crawling through the TV. Of course I then got to watch the cats destroy Port in the GF at the end of the year.
I went to school with Greening. It might not be fair to say that Alan Jeans was a brutal oaf just because he was a cop, as football was a tough game then and other coaches and players did do stuff. But, he was cop and they use violence as a matter of course, especially back then.
it was behind the play, it wasn't on any film, but, gee, you could hear the whack and everybody wondered what had just happened, and there lay John Greening, out cold on the ground Jim O'dea, for his hit on John, should have been recorded as the dirtiest hit in history. The damage he caused Greening destroyed the man. It took months/years, of his teammates going to see him to slowly get his coordination and speech back He almost won the brownlow with only, from memory, playing 11 games I remember the blankets at the grounds gathering donations for him and his family St.Kilda had a bad habit of sucker punching opponenets
I had the privilege of playing football with John Greening 1990 Spreyton Football Club in The N.W.F.A. won the Premiership in Seniors and Reserve's that year. What a legend and gets standing ovation when he walks into the Collingwood Football Club
Mark Bickley was actually going to spoil the ball when Wakelin jumped across in an attempt to mark it. That's way different than Lockett elbowing Caven. Lockett was aiming for Caven, while Bickley was contesting the ball in play. 2 different totally scenarios, one being intentional, one not.
@@goldenrise1 it ruined him. He was never the same after that hit To think it took another 30 years before the 'one hit can kill' campaign. That hit was/is, potentially the worst hit on a player in the games history Odea was an absolute grub
It's still an absolute muppet show in AFL that there is no send off even for deliberate minor criminal assault. Even if the rule is the team does not lose a man on field, the player needs to go It's backwards morons who can't accept that it's a sport, a game, not the street who prevent the game from evolving. How many of the scummiest and worst look incidents for the game came from escalation after a player was not able to be sent off for a dirty and deliberate shot?
Even if (unlike rugby, basketball and soccer, oh and all the non mickey mouse sports worldwide!) there is no send offs for dangerous but not deliberate play, it is still needed for instances like these
O'Dae should have been jailed. And I think he was actually a Policeman. Jeans was a Policeman, and there is a long list of Thug acts from players under his watch. Nothing against the Police in general mind you, just interesting regarding these animals.
Most Underrated As It Was International Rules, Is Brisbane Lion Player Chris Johnson Doing Flying JBL Style Clothesline From Hell On Irish Player While Dropping Another One During 2005 Series. Got Suspended For 5 Game From International Rules
Should have criminal charges brought against them for callous hits like this. Same as assaulting someone in the street. Because assault is not part of the sport.
Denis Banks hit on Rhys Jones was pretty bad as well. It was a mistimed hit for a previous hit from Rhys Jones. A sniper revenge act on a sniper. They both laugh about it now.
The line in the sand game you mention Lance Picioane but you say his last name wrong. It’s actually pronounced Pi cho ne. I know because I am friends with him. Otherwise love your stuff.
Jim O'Dea and Neil Balme brought the game of footy into disrepute. The fact that Balme was never suspended for the hit on Southby or Waite in 73 (or McKay and Dickson in 72) nor has ever publically regretted his actions is disappointing. Its also disappointing that hes one of the nicest blokes you could ever meet. It shows how much the game was a 'leave your integrity at the front gate' back in the old days
suspensions should as others have stated, include the amount of time the other player they injured is unable to play... This should also factor in if a player is injured in the same match they receive a suspension for... Barry Hall is a good example who was rubbed out for a similar time he was injured for anyway... suspensions should start from when they are medically fit to play... this determined by an independent and team doc
I think if a player ends up with broken cheek bone or whatever the offending player should be forced to sit out their sentence e.g 8 weeks or 50% longer than it takes the victem to recover so if the victem needs 12 weeks to get back into the game the offender should sit out 18 weeks
@@flairfooty everyone likes to say "how many weeks would Toby get for that". Honestly take out the umpire contact one and he hasn't been suspended that much
@flair footy should do a video on players that have worn longsleevs at multiple clubs or same/similar numbers most vfl/afl clubs played for an numbers at each club most vfl/afl states played in
@@flairfooty 😹😹😹 instead of talk like a robot, I probably should've said "don't talk like you're reading off a written script". Anyways good job and would like to see more
@@flairfooty Also, I have a story about Robbie Muir for you... Back in 1996 (I think it was from memory) I was with my old man at the prince of wales pub in St Kilda and we were out the front and my dad had already had a few and he was looking out sort of to the horizon and he said "just look at that moon would ya"... Now Muir happened to be walking towards us in more or less the same way my dad was pointing and he'd already had a skinfull himself (at least from what I could tell) and he ran towards us and said "what the f**k did you just call me" and he started throwing chairs and glasses and carrying on... I tried to explain to the 2 women he was with that my dad was making a remark about the MOON, not any sort of racial connotation, as my father was always against ANY sort of racial vilification as his grandparents and great grandparents had survived the Armenian Genocide. So yeah that's my story.
The bloodbath grand final with two South Melbourne players gambling on their own match and getting 99 games for it in 1936
And people say that footy was better when you could hit people. I'd rather watch a talented footballer play than watch a thug hospitalize that talented player. While I'm not happy with all of the suspensions this season I find it preferable to a Superstar watching the game on tv and eating their dinner with a straw
I agree with you there mate. Should always be playing the footy and not the man
Yeah mate and the thing is that's it's evident right down to the grass roots level and I've even experienced it in under 18s.
Some truly sickening shit and I reckon that assault is assault, whether a football field is involved or not
This, this ALL OF THIS!!! yeah ok the rough and tumble can look cool until you realise those are actual people and they have actual consiquences to being flattened by stupid punches or tackles. I love this game and it's not as brutal as it was, but in the sake of player safety, that is a-okay with me
Absolutely. It has been cleaned up to the point where the thug offers a fake apology unlike back then when they went home with a big grin on their face and probably jerked off watching it being replayed.
Also the amount of players injured in 2024 is contrary to the idea that footy is getting softer
The O ‘Dea hit on Greening was a very low act. The 10 week penalty was manifestly inadequate.
Great content mate. As an Eagles fan, that demolition derby still plays on my mind. Brutal day.
Thanks mate 👍 what an insane moment. It became less footy and more street fighting
That last one was disgusting. O'Dea should have been charged and banned from football. The club should have been fined for ruining that player's career.
when a player cops a suspension for intentionally hurting another player they should also have the time it takes the other player to get back to pre injury form added to the suspension.
Agreed. I’m also up for them being subbed out of the game if the player they hurt can’t come back into the field
What if the injured player never gets selected again?
Let's say the incident happens in R19 between a star player like Petracca and a squad player like McNeil. If you knew that, as the dogs, you were going to match up with the Dee's in the first round, would you not say that McNeil is still out injured so that Petracca has to be benched? Just a thought
Can’t work, move on
@Vinnie101a youre fired!
I remember watching that Ling hit and felt like crawling through the TV. Of course I then got to watch the cats destroy Port in the GF at the end of the year.
but he’s so annoying
I went to school with Greening. It might not be fair to say that Alan Jeans was a brutal oaf just because he was a cop, as football was a tough game then and other coaches and players did do stuff. But, he was cop and they use violence as a matter of course, especially back then.
If something like that hit on Greening were to happen today, I don't think the offending player would ever play again
they would go to jail bro
it was behind the play, it wasn't on any film, but, gee, you could hear the whack and everybody wondered what had just happened, and there lay John Greening, out cold on the ground
Jim O'dea, for his hit on John, should have been recorded as the dirtiest hit in history.
The damage he caused Greening destroyed the man. It took months/years, of his teammates going to see him to slowly get his coordination and speech back
He almost won the brownlow with only, from memory, playing 11 games
I remember the blankets at the grounds gathering donations for him and his family
St.Kilda had a bad habit of sucker punching opponenets
Suspensions need to be harsher, especially considering if a player loses out on playing 12 games due to injury
What about the greening incident. The bloke was out for 2 years and the offender got 10 weeks. Punishment didn’t fit the crime at all
@@flairfooty Exactly l was there that day,and those bustards really had it out for John.
I had the privilege of playing football with John Greening 1990 Spreyton Football Club in The N.W.F.A. won the Premiership in Seniors and Reserve's that year. What a legend and gets standing ovation when he walks into the Collingwood Football Club
Lance Picioane Is pronounced “pitch own ee” 🙂
Tony Liberatore’s hit on Matthew knights
If the player can't return to the game from injury they should ban the player who caused it. Even after the fact
Brodie holland was my junior football coach in under 14s
tom stewart on dion prestia
Horrific to watch! Even worse that they are cowardly, coming when the opposition player has eyes on the ball and unable to defend himself
I always thing of Neil Balme going at a couple of Carlton players from behind in separate finals in the 1970s. Not sure if he was even suspended.
O'Dea would of gotten a LifeTime Ban these Days
Caven viciously headbutting Plugga's elbow there, deserved his 8 weeks off
Leigh matthews was an out and out dirty player. Anyone can run around with their elbows pointed at jaws.
No contrition either
The fact Matthews has never apologised for literally assaulting someone is pathetic
Thanks for showing multiple teams. Not just east coast teams.
John Bourke's hit on the umpire got him suspended for a while, forgot how long though.
10 years?
adam mcphee was my footy coach when i was like 9 lol
No place for headhunters in our game. It’s just gutless.
jim edmond on russel morris
Mark Bickley was actually going to spoil the ball when Wakelin jumped across in an attempt to mark it. That's way different than Lockett elbowing Caven. Lockett was aiming for Caven, while Bickley was contesting the ball in play. 2 different totally scenarios, one being intentional, one not.
I always felt Collingwood and Essendon was cheats North Melbourne was dirtiest mongrels footscray next.
parth 3 andrew brayshaw and anderw gaff and barry hall
Is it just me that’s surprised not to see Mitch Robinson in this list?
I saw Sharrod Wellingham clean him up one day.
Andrew gaff on Andrew Brayshaw
Yeah mentioned that in part 1 👍
Yeah.. I watched part one right after this and realised 😅
Dog should have got 12 weeks
Loses its punch if you don't show the clips with sound.
Jess Sinclair hitting Lance Picione in 2003
Lewis getting KOd by Harbrow in 2010
The whole west coast team should have been suspended for outraging public decency with those jumpers in the demolition derby
No time for headhunters. Lockets hit on Caven was vile. The worst regular headhunter was Leigh Matthews. No respect for him as sportsman.
Jonas elbow to Gaff
Club Thuggery
They’ve sanitised the game now. All we get now is pissy shoves.
Barry Hall?
mate mark johnson my coach for footy great vid
Tom Bugg on Callum Mills
Good one! I covered that incident in my part 1 👍
Deefence?
seems if you have red hair , your a target
Gaff to 19 year old Bradshaw, broken jaw and 2 teeth gorn.
Good mention! Watch my part 1 👍
Worst injuries
That’s definitely on the list
@Flair Footy micheal Barlow's leg snap was pretty bad and James hirds face
Nathan Browns leg lives forever in my mind
@Conburgundyy he was a jet on the cricket field as a teen too
Good content, maybe work on your delivery?
Obvious you’re reading off a sheet
Its not tough, its rubbish
John Greening was made a quadraplegic.
Not true. He returned to play a few games for Collingwood. The cowardly hit did ruin his career.
@@goldenrise1 it ruined him. He was never the same after that hit
To think it took another 30 years before the 'one hit can kill' campaign.
That hit was/is, potentially the worst hit on a player in the games history
Odea was an absolute grub
Solomon is a major dog for doing that to Ling. I had a cheekbone broken in a fight and it sucked.
It's still an absolute muppet show in AFL that there is no send off even for deliberate minor criminal assault. Even if the rule is the team does not lose a man on field, the player needs to go
It's backwards morons who can't accept that it's a sport, a game, not the street who prevent the game from evolving. How many of the scummiest and worst look incidents for the game came from escalation after a player was not able to be sent off for a dirty and deliberate shot?
Even if (unlike rugby, basketball and soccer, oh and all the non mickey mouse sports worldwide!) there is no send offs for dangerous but not deliberate play, it is still needed for instances like these
It's good hear Robbie Muir getting credit for his skill as a player vs the negative comments he usually gets! Cheers enjoyed your commentary!
O'Dae should have been jailed.
And I think he was actually a Policeman.
Jeans was a Policeman, and there is a long list of Thug acts from players under his watch.
Nothing against the Police in general mind you, just interesting regarding these animals.
Jim O’Dea should have been jailed for what he did
Most Underrated As It Was International Rules, Is Brisbane Lion Player Chris Johnson Doing Flying JBL Style Clothesline From Hell On Irish Player While Dropping Another One During 2005 Series. Got Suspended For 5 Game From International Rules
Meathead. No sense of the occasion.
Haha he was an absolute menace in those International rules games
Should have criminal charges brought against them for callous hits like this. Same as assaulting someone in the street. Because assault is not part of the sport.
Leigh Matthews would have been locked up for life in that case...
@@dashamanstevo5326 Interesting. Not a counter argument though. "Great players used to assault people too!"
Denis Banks hit on Rhys Jones was pretty bad as well. It was a mistimed hit for a previous hit from Rhys Jones. A sniper revenge act on a sniper. They both laugh about it now.
Anyone that whacked DRJ should of got Brownlow votes.
I remember Rod Grinter knocking out Terry Wallace, that was viscious.
The line in the sand game you mention Lance Picioane but you say his last name wrong. It’s actually pronounced Pi cho ne. I know because I am friends with him. Otherwise love your stuff.
Thanks mate. Probably should’ve checked how to pronounce the last name
@@flairfooty All good. Great video
Awesome upload as always bro. Keep it up 😊
Jim O'Dea and Neil Balme brought the game of footy into disrepute. The fact that Balme was never suspended for the hit on Southby or Waite in 73 (or McKay and Dickson in 72) nor has ever publically regretted his actions is disappointing. Its also disappointing that hes one of the nicest blokes you could ever meet. It shows how much the game was a 'leave your integrity at the front gate' back in the old days
suspensions should as others have stated, include the amount of time the other player they injured is unable to play...
This should also factor in if a player is injured in the same match they receive a suspension for... Barry Hall is a good example who was rubbed out for a similar time he was injured for anyway... suspensions should start from when they are medically fit to play... this determined by an independent and team doc
I think if a player ends up with broken cheek bone or whatever the offending player should be forced to sit out their sentence e.g 8 weeks or 50% longer than it takes the victem to recover so if the victem needs 12 weeks to get back into the game the offender should sit out 18 weeks
2:30 look at his smug face, totally devoid of any remorse for his actions, can't believe these thugs escape any kind of criminal convictions
This is the most disgusting sport ever seeing before has to be banned from the contact sport community, it my opinion...🤢🤮
How much time did Brereton get for inciting violence?
Do you remember the one when Toby green kicked that guy in the face
I looked that up, he only got fined for it
@@flairfooty everyone likes to say "how many weeks would Toby get for that". Honestly take out the umpire contact one and he hasn't been suspended that much
@flair footy should do a video on players that have worn longsleevs at multiple clubs or same/similar numbers most vfl/afl clubs played for an numbers at each club most vfl/afl states played in
Im so glad you put the VFL stuff at the end mate. Because I couldnt care less about it. If it was scattered throughout I dont think id watch the video
I'm seriously impressed how you've found this much old match footage
If some of the players did this stuff these days they'd be hunted down in packs lol.
Do Prestia & Stewart😢
Great vid mate, excellent research
Broooo, I’ve been watching for ages haven’t even been subbed, I just subbed love the vid also 👍🏻
Thanks for the sub mate 👍 appreciate it
Vicious headbutt from Caven
😂
Your channel is good and subject matter is awesome; however you really have to not talk like a robot 😁👍
🤖
@@flairfooty 😹😹😹 instead of talk like a robot, I probably should've said "don't talk like you're reading off a written script". Anyways good job and would like to see more
@@flairfooty Also, I have a story about Robbie Muir for you... Back in 1996 (I think it was from memory) I was with my old man at the prince of wales pub in St Kilda and we were out the front and my dad had already had a few and he was looking out sort of to the horizon and he said "just look at that moon would ya"... Now Muir happened to be walking towards us in more or less the same way my dad was pointing and he'd already had a skinfull himself (at least from what I could tell) and he ran towards us and said "what the f**k did you just call me" and he started throwing chairs and glasses and carrying on... I tried to explain to the 2 women he was with that my dad was making a remark about the MOON, not any sort of racial connotation, as my father was always against ANY sort of racial vilification as his grandparents and great grandparents had survived the Armenian Genocide. So yeah that's my story.
How did Leigh matthews get a criminal charge off a game of footy
for pretty clearly punching a player in the face i would assume
@@nuggnugg8464 he's not the only player to have done it
It was silly. Wasn’t even a particularly nasty job.
@@nuggnugg8464 yea but it’s during An afl game
@@buddysally886 afl players are not above the law? he nearly killed the bloke, clearly not in the nature of the game.