I just installed a brand new USMotors ASB858 and it was making a terrible chirping/shrieking sound; I feared the worst. I watched your video this morning and went outside a slid a piece of cardboard under it; now it sounds totally normal, even more quiet than I anticipated. The plastic Whisper-air frame was vibrating and scraping on the pad. I replaced the cardboard with quarter-sized foam furniture to floor pads which should hold up quite awhile. Thank you for making my day.
I have considered a variable speed pump just because the one that is there now sounds a bit like an air raid siren. It is not the bearings though just the pump's own noise and vibration. It is an in-ground pool and the pump sits on concrete. The noise is actually a humming noise but a very loud humming noise. And I hear it in the house, I am good at tuning it out till I notice it, but when it shuts off at 4:30 this time of year you really notice how loud it was. It was only a few months old when I bought the house in early 2020. The size of the pipes and the rated flow of the pump means it turns over the entire pool in about 6 hours, I have it set for 8 hours in winter (Florida) and 9 to 10 hours per day summer when the water is like 90* F. It does not use as much electricity as I thought it should really considering Duke Energy rates are just slightly more than double what I paid in Oregon per kWh. The base electric usage for me is about $65 per month for everything in the months where the heat or AC do not engage. What I was wondering is if I have a variable lower speed pump like the neighbor across the street, he leaves his on 24/7. Is that going to use more electricity overall and will it be enough to turn over the pool as often as it needs to be? I was thinking I must do everything I can to try to minimize the sound since it could well last for years yet. And it would be my luck to spend a lot to replace it only to have the replacement also be noisy (or at least audible) or not work well enough to keep the water properly filtered. So I was going to keep trying to make it quieter till it fails. But that could be 2030.
Running a VS pump properly 24/7 will not cost extra energy. It will save you substantial amounts of energy as well as being incredibly quiet. Here is a detailed breakdown for you www.swimmingpoolsteve.com/pages/compare-savings.html
I recently upgraded to a Jandy variable speed pump. Even at 2800rpm it sounds like a kitten purring. My prior pump could induce an instant headache. Huge improvement
Its a trade off, the lower speed moves less water, your accessories wont work and you have run the pump longer to do the same work. And way too expensive. Ill stick with my single speed.
My neighbors have this pump and it is SO loud. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA all day and all night. Drives my crazy. We can hear it in the house/our bedroom. We’ve talked to them several times and each time they are “planning” on doing something about it.
Years back we purchased our home with an in ground pool. We were completely ignorant to the pool ownership game. We had a very loud pump that had a bad bearing. I just assumed the pool pump was supposed to be that loud. I wondered why I didn't get a lot of hits for "quiet pool pump" when I searched online. We left it this way until the next pool season. When we replaced the pump, and fired up the new one, I stood still for a good minute or two. Silence.
If your pump is noisy then theres something wrong (bearings) variable speed pumps are so expensive that you will never recover the difference and there vulnerable to lightning and electrical surges. The battery in the computer goes bad you cant replace it (another $1600) because the battery went bad yet you still have a good motor and pump. You can keep them.
I think my loud pump ,a TriStar 2.7HP VS got water in from where the electrical wires are routed, as a pool guy who was installing it, he put a Jbox right at that spot , but he didnt put the cover on, AND was facing up to collect water! THat guy was prettty bad. He is not touching the property any longer. So after heavy rains, it didnt even turn on, and my program board was shot. I replaced that with a good used control board, and then secured the wire nuts and the control board turned on, BUT, the pump wont turn on! We really shouldnt be spending so much on a new pool pump, and I know this loud one needs a bearing rebuild, BUT, reading a lot on the Black & Decker, or Blue Torrent models that are 30% or more less, I am considering rolling the dice on those with 5 year warranty for a 3HP(Big brands only give 1 year). My pool is large with 48,000 and a spa water fall with a heater(heat is for spa, and I have diverter valves so it isolates the heater from normal circulation. I don't really know what to do. The new pool guy, he is OK at the elctric stuff, and great at the plumning, and scu..But he tried to sell me a used 2HP for 900$, Not doing that, and he should know better I need more GPM for this size pool. But, He is gonna continue to finish the install and piping and cleaning from algae to a green pool, so...I really cant be dropping cloes to $2k for a dam pool that hardly anyone but me swims in! LOL. Reading your replies, you do sound like you know more that most. Any advice?
Steve, I've learned a lot from your videos, thanks! I have a question for you about my current pool setup: I have an older Hayward Super Pump single speed running 24/7 running into a Hayward S200 using 1.5 inch pipes. The noise generated by this setup is crazy and I've been told is been this way since new 15 years plus. I've only owned the pool for 5 years. It sounds like gravel churning/smashing rocks. You can hear it about 100 yards away. I've spoken to Hayward and they think it could be water vectoring or water banging into the 90 degree bends or maybe gravel is in the multiport? I have 2 skimmers and a main drain, so a 4 way with a short lead into the pump and then out the pump top and a short pipe to a 90 degree with another short pipe into the multiport. Hayward recommended a longer 10" head pipe into the pump and maybe a longer pipe out the pump before making the 90 degree turn, but the multiport is right there. What do you think the noise is and how to address it? My neighbors could have a peacefully evening once!!!
That noise you are describing is cavitation or starving the pump for water. Rocks in the pump is the exact sound. Could be you have a flow restriction in this system. Could be the pump is too powerful for the pipes...or a mixture of the two. Scope the pipes to look for crush / kinds and buy a variable speed pump so you never have to listen to your pump again.
@@Swimmingpoolsteve Thanks for the reply!! So after watching your videos over the years, last year before the season started and prices were lower; I purchased a Pentair variable speed pump, a Clean and Clear 420 cartridge filter, some Lasko schedule 40 90 degree sweep elbows , Jandy some valves and some check valves, and an inline flow meter, plus the items needed to switch to a salt water pool. My warranty company pool repairman said those pumps get replaced often and no body should switch from sand to a cartridge filter, and lastly salt water pools after 5 to 7 years you'll need to swap out the water because the old water won't work with the salt anymore. He then said, he'll install them but beware. I'm thinking about switching to the variable speed pump and cartridge filter sooner then maybe adding salt water system later. The electric bill is killing my monthly budget and electric rates are going up.
What about constant electrical buzzing humming noise that the neighbors can hear? They have complained but should I be doing anything? What's causing it. I have a 10 year old heat exchanger pump that I run 24 hours a day. Flag day
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I just installed a brand new USMotors ASB858 and it was making a terrible chirping/shrieking sound; I feared the worst. I watched your video this morning and went outside a slid a piece of cardboard under it; now it sounds totally normal, even more quiet than I anticipated. The plastic Whisper-air frame was vibrating and scraping on the pad. I replaced the cardboard with quarter-sized foam furniture to floor pads which should hold up quite awhile. Thank you for making my day.
I have considered a variable speed pump just because the one that is there now sounds a bit like an air raid siren. It is not the bearings though just the pump's own noise and vibration. It is an in-ground pool and the pump sits on concrete. The noise is actually a humming noise but a very loud humming noise. And I hear it in the house, I am good at tuning it out till I notice it, but when it shuts off at 4:30 this time of year you really notice how loud it was. It was only a few months old when I bought the house in early 2020. The size of the pipes and the rated flow of the pump means it turns over the entire pool in about 6 hours, I have it set for 8 hours in winter (Florida) and 9 to 10 hours per day summer when the water is like 90* F. It does not use as much electricity as I thought it should really considering Duke Energy rates are just slightly more than double what I paid in Oregon per kWh. The base electric usage for me is about $65 per month for everything in the months where the heat or AC do not engage. What I was wondering is if I have a variable lower speed pump like the neighbor across the street, he leaves his on 24/7. Is that going to use more electricity overall and will it be enough to turn over the pool as often as it needs to be? I was thinking I must do everything I can to try to minimize the sound since it could well last for years yet. And it would be my luck to spend a lot to replace it only to have the replacement also be noisy (or at least audible) or not work well enough to keep the water properly filtered. So I was going to keep trying to make it quieter till it fails. But that could be 2030.
Running a VS pump properly 24/7 will not cost extra energy. It will save you substantial amounts of energy as well as being incredibly quiet. Here is a detailed breakdown for you www.swimmingpoolsteve.com/pages/compare-savings.html
I recently upgraded to a Jandy variable speed pump. Even at 2800rpm it sounds like a kitten purring. My prior pump could induce an instant headache. Huge improvement
Its a trade off, the lower speed moves less water, your accessories wont work and you have run the pump longer to do the same work. And way too expensive. Ill stick with my single speed.
My neighbors have this pump and it is SO loud. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA all day and all night. Drives my crazy. We can hear it in the house/our bedroom. We’ve talked to them several times and each time they are “planning” on doing something about it.
Steve, can you do a video with your thoughts on liquid "solar blanket" products?
Years back we purchased our home with an in ground pool. We were completely ignorant to the pool ownership game. We had a very loud pump that had a bad bearing. I just assumed the pool pump was supposed to be that loud. I wondered why I didn't get a lot of hits for "quiet pool pump" when I searched online. We left it this way until the next pool season. When we replaced the pump, and fired up the new one, I stood still for a good minute or two. Silence.
If your pump is noisy then theres something wrong (bearings) variable speed pumps are so expensive that you will never recover the difference and there vulnerable to lightning and electrical surges. The battery in the computer goes bad you cant replace it (another $1600) because the battery went bad yet you still have a good motor and pump. You can keep them.
I think my loud pump ,a TriStar 2.7HP VS got water in from where the electrical wires are routed, as a pool guy who was installing it, he put a Jbox right at that spot , but he didnt put the cover on, AND was facing up to collect water! THat guy was prettty bad. He is not touching the property any longer. So after heavy rains, it didnt even turn on, and my program board was shot. I replaced that with a good used control board, and then secured the wire nuts and the control board turned on, BUT, the pump wont turn on! We really shouldnt be spending so much on a new pool pump, and I know this loud one needs a bearing rebuild, BUT, reading a lot on the Black & Decker, or Blue Torrent models that are 30% or more less, I am considering rolling the dice on those with 5 year warranty for a 3HP(Big brands only give 1 year). My pool is large with 48,000 and a spa water fall with a heater(heat is for spa, and I have diverter valves so it isolates the heater from normal circulation.
I don't really know what to do. The new pool guy, he is OK at the elctric stuff, and great at the plumning, and scu..But he tried to sell me a used 2HP for 900$, Not doing that, and he should know better I need more GPM for this size pool. But, He is gonna continue to finish the install and piping and cleaning from algae to a green pool, so...I really cant be dropping cloes to $2k for a dam pool that hardly anyone but me swims in! LOL. Reading your replies, you do sound like you know more that most. Any advice?
What about a very loud pool compressor?
Steve, I've learned a lot from your videos, thanks! I have a question for you about my current pool setup: I have an older Hayward Super Pump single speed running 24/7 running into a Hayward S200 using 1.5 inch pipes. The noise generated by this setup is crazy and I've been told is been this way since new 15 years plus. I've only owned the pool for 5 years. It sounds like gravel churning/smashing rocks. You can hear it about 100 yards away. I've spoken to Hayward and they think it could be water vectoring or water banging into the 90 degree bends or maybe gravel is in the multiport? I have 2 skimmers and a main drain, so a 4 way with a short lead into the pump and then out the pump top and a short pipe to a 90 degree with another short pipe into the multiport. Hayward recommended a longer 10" head pipe into the pump and maybe a longer pipe out the pump before making the 90 degree turn, but the multiport is right there. What do you think the noise is and how to address it? My neighbors could have a peacefully evening once!!!
That noise you are describing is cavitation or starving the pump for water. Rocks in the pump is the exact sound. Could be you have a flow restriction in this system. Could be the pump is too powerful for the pipes...or a mixture of the two. Scope the pipes to look for crush / kinds and buy a variable speed pump so you never have to listen to your pump again.
@@Swimmingpoolsteve Thanks for the reply!! So after watching your videos over the years, last year before the season started and prices were lower; I purchased a Pentair variable speed pump, a Clean and Clear 420 cartridge filter, some Lasko schedule 40 90 degree sweep elbows , Jandy some valves and some check valves, and an inline flow meter, plus the items needed to switch to a salt water pool. My warranty company pool repairman said those pumps get replaced often and no body should switch from sand to a cartridge filter, and lastly salt water pools after 5 to 7 years you'll need to swap out the water because the old water won't work with the salt anymore. He then said, he'll install them but beware. I'm thinking about switching to the variable speed pump and cartridge filter sooner then maybe adding salt water system later. The electric bill is killing my monthly budget and electric rates are going up.
What about constant electrical buzzing humming noise that the neighbors can hear? They have complained but should I be doing anything? What's causing it. I have a 10 year old heat exchanger pump that I run 24 hours a day. Flag day
Pool guy told me the motor can't be fixed its howling like crazy. He said it has to be replaced.
any one no quality of arctic swim spa and if the motor is noisy
My pool hasn’t been this loud but it’s louder now . Worries me. What can I do? I can’t dial anything to slow speed.
Install a new motor far less expensive than a new pump.
I have a 6 month old a MaxFlo VS™ 230V it sounds like it's going to blow up, I guess I should call the installer.