Dieting is Making You Fatter? - Body Fat Set Point Change Theory
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- While energy balance seems simple, it is made up of many complicated components. After working with thousands of people in my life, I have seen how improper dieting actually leads to people putting on more body fat over time, even though they spend the majority of their life dieting. The fad/yoyo dieting consistently caused people to gain more body fat over the course of their life. Seeking answers, I dug deep into the research and found things that blew my mind, especially regarding adipose tissue adaptations to dieting and body fat setpoint. Specifically, that you could actually increase your number of fat cells in your body in a short period of time, given the right circumstances. in this video I discuss my theory on body fat setpoint and why dieting makes some people fatter.
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LAYNE DOES IT AGAIN!!! These series just get better and better!! So glad you're doing this one Layne!! Keep it coming!! Can i plz plz plz beg you to do one episode in relation to this and an obese person who loses weight.......i.e. a 330lb male/female going to 200lbs or so, who also builds some muscle mass, then what happens, would his leptin signals keep pushing for more food till he returns to 330lbs, like...are you going to be forever hungry battling to maintain 200lbs??
You just described me to the T! I was 320, went down to 209 and now I am back to 330.
Donald Ellis this means u didnt develop good habits on the way down. I was 330 went down to 210, and now floating around 220-230, but i am going to be 180-190 even if it kills me!!
I would definitely like to see this as well. Former football player who needed to weigh 50+ pound more out of necessity. My body just does NOT want to get below about 20% BF. A lot of former lineman who are eating right and on paper should have a negative energy balance that I played with have the same problem. I’ve gotten to 15% before but it was basically like I was in the final stages of a 6 month prep to get there.
this sounds exactly like me, at a theoretically calculated 19-21% is where my body starts fighting me, cravings go mental, appetite just goes thru the roof. I literally start dreaming about food! its mad!! Really annoying tho, cozi still have a belly and virtually no visible muscle definition in my upperbody yet, I know around the 200lb mark (im 5ft 10) i should start to see some definition and then that should push me to go the whole hog for the last 10-15lbs.
No, you reverse diet. Which means you're sloooowly increasing kcals without gaining too much fat back.
Nice, can't wait to hear about a way to reverse your setpoint.
“If you’ve ever had an eating disorder it whacks out your brain...” Indeed it does and the effect persists for far longer than physiologically makes sense. Still struggling with this after having 2 children, gaining plenty of weight and “healing” my body.
Christina P I totally get this.
Me too. My hunger never goes away no matter how much I eat. No matter how physically full my stomach feels from eating so much protein and fiber and volume and whatnot, my body still wants to eat, I still feel hunger.
@@skeptivorous5202 me too! its killing me, i dont think i can ever be slim again
I'm not fat, I'm just big-celled.
I wish I would’ve had this info YEARS ago when I was messing with my body! Thank you for doing this series. I’m looking forward to it!
Wow you just hit me in the feels. Yo-yo crew checking in lol
Favorite video! Seriously this is such amazing information for all binge eaters and those who over eat post contest. Happened to me three years ago badly and it’s awesome to see the science behind it.
Thanks commentor is that karun or arjun?
Brother, you are seriously one of a kind! An eye-opener for every fitness query. This series is getting better and better...Love your Work!
Really hit the nail on the head with this one layne.👍 Big fan of all your work and so greatful to have you share your knowledge so we can make the best progress not only for ourself, but spread awareness to our clients about these issues. Looking forward to hearing more on this topic 😊
This makes the most sense out of all the theories I’ve heard. I can’t wait for the rest of the info.
Man this video was awesome. I know you said this was done in rats, but if this mechanism exists in humans it would be HUGE in regards to explaining why so many people have trouble keeping weight off and actually gaining MORE weight back afterwards.
Great explanation - it also shows why reverse diet is so important after a period of dieting
This is why controlled reverse diets are key after a long diet phase, right? Great video, looking forward to the series.
You know your stuff Dr. Norton. Can't wait for the series to start. Thanks for the great content.
Goddamn I need this series, I'm definitely going to stay tuned. Cutting for the first time in my life for a show for too long I think jacked up this whole system for me.
Thank you for this video. i can't believe no one else talks about body fat set points. looking forward to your other videos.
Great video, layne! Looking forward to the series.
I learnt this from you in an older video but this explains it really well! Thanks and keep up this great series
Thanks Layne, always had this problem after getting lean. Look forward to the upcoming vids
This is the one and - ONLY - source of information in a niche plagued with an endless amount of charlatans produced on corporate assembly lines packed to the brim with hype, fad, miss-information & aggressive marketing BS.
Thank you sir for your invaluable contribution. keep'em coming!
watched you on youtube forever ago when you were talking about how you bulk for 3-4 weeks and cut for 1-2, looks like those principles are still put to use! glad u popped up in my feed
Holy shit. Your videos are now like a series you just get hooked on. Now I can’t wait for the next episode.
Great video, interesting info, important topic. Full groupie again, but thanks!
Thank you layne. Cant wait for the next videos. love your content. greetings from Germany ✌
Looking forward to the series and hopefully one day maintaing a lean body comp 🤞
Bravo!!! Looking forward to the series.
Maybe it’s coming up in a future video, but is there a way to change the set-point down?
This is why we all need to be here. Great job Layne!
Wow amazing !! Can't wait for the video coming up
Excellent video, looking forward to the new series
Yassssss, Thank you Dr Bio Layne :) So looking forwards to the series.
Good on you dude. Courage is not being fearless but rather moving forward in spite of your fears. While I did not revell in you losing your marriage I can appreciate the video for what it truely says about you. Keep running that race!
Amazing video Layne. Cant wait to see the rest of this series!
I am so EXCITED to learn more about this. So fascinating and HELPFUL! I didn't know that I could love science. Enter.....Layne Norton hahah. Seriously I am sitting at my computer working through your fat loss series advice and turning it into a meal plan. THANK YOU for having the heart of a teacher and for not letting people shut you up :) I am so grateful.
I can’t find the video series that you mentioned that will talk about how to prevent a set point increase and what to do if yours already is increased.
ruclips.net/video/_uok8Itwles/видео.html I think this might be it
Saw a Thomas DeLauer ad before this. Never clicked the skip ad button so fast
Can't wait for this series.... I hope he has evidence on HOW TO reset the set point from a multitude of angles/modalities
Excited for this series, besides your ebook do you have any recommendations on any other books to read up on this subject?
What an incredible video. This is great and I'm tuned in for the next series!!!
Thank you one of the best research explained videos I have seen very interesting!
This is GOLD information, thank you so much Layne :)
Yo man! Where is the rest of this series? If it’s all in your ebook can you confirm that? You have me hooked now! It’s been 9 months so I don’t think another one is coming
Ohhh my God! You are so Great! Thank You! I can't wait for the next video.
Very good video. Have always been interested in your work, and spoke about this concept to many...Good to have this as reference.
This is gonna be so good! Can't wait to learn!!!!
So the body adapts and plans for the next time you are “starving” to be better equipped to keep you from dying. That’s mind blowing! From a scientific standpoint. But also disappointed as to why we can’t lose weight. But knowing this now I can also plan for my body’s adaptation. If I asked Greg, he’d just tell me to buy his cookbook.
Very interesting. It fits my experience perfectly. Subscribed and eager to hear more.
Where is the next video? I need to figure out what to do about all of this.
I CAN'T WAIT for the rest of this series!!! Sharing this with my personal training clients. You're still my #1 go-to guy for all things nutrition- my clients hear about you ad nauseam lol Thank you 💙
Really excited about this series!
OMG! This is a great video but I think I'm doomed! My current set point is terrible and wow... It seems like nothing I do corrects it. I'm going to find more of your videos now.
One of the best videos so far. fantastic content!
I can’t find the video about bringing back the set point. Can someone please share? I have watched so many videos but cant find it.
So if you keep dieting and rebound and your predispositioned to be thin, will you eventually be obese? Since everytime you diet and rebound, your going to be at a higher set point?
I can not wait for a new video!!
What happened to the other videos in this series? Would love to see them!
what are your thoughts on being in a 200-300 cal daily deficit and then doing one fairly giant cheat meals a week. would that sort of recalibrate the metabolic rate and the leptin levels? I feel perfectly comfortable in a 200-300 cal daily deficit knowing I have a tasty meal waiting for me. from my personal and current anecdotal evidence I've noticed that I don't have to keep dropping calories and my body still feels comfortable and maintains a level of body fat that I would consider to be below my set point. what are your thoughts?
This is golden info, thanks Layne
So,, when's the next part of this series coming out?
Excellent excellent video Layne!!
I'm really really looking forward to the part 2 of this video; How to lower the body fat set point
Can I find the research paper on PubMed? I'd like to use it for an assignment (senior Nutritional Sciences major @UF)
Great video Layne! This has really made me rethink a few things, looking forward to your nee series
Fascinating, thanks for sharing!
Which video is supposed to be the next in this series? I'm not entirely sure
I've been 144 since I was 17 I'm 32 now female..I lost 10 pounds by cutting calories and then started eating normal again..which is pretty healthy. And I gained it all back in one week. I'm finished with the scale. Just going to focus on a healthy diet and working out. I want to toss my scale in the trash.
144 is low for a woman dependent on height I wish I could have stayed the same weight for 15 years. My weigh has been pretty stable though and usually 190-195 for the last 11 years since I was 17.
So how do we reset our body weight set point? Is there a video that explains this?
Informative and enlightening! Looking forward to Part 2 🤓
Waiting forward on the serie!
Another great video thanks layne
So the best way to avoid this it to not over eat after a diet, and reverse diet, so that you avoid the sudden influx of energy that leads to your body creating millions and millions of new fat cells. Pretty much just slowly edge up to your maintenance calories so that your body achieves homeostasis and a body fat set point at your new dieted down body fat?
Awesome video. Where's the follow up video?
This video got me well-lubricated and ovulating.. and I'm a dude. I love channels that bring new relatively unknown concepts instead of recycling old ones. I've read about this but not explained to this level. It's fascinating. Can't wait for the next video.
thanks layne. great video :)
Thanks for the video, very informative. So you can elevate your body fat set point but can you lower it ? And if possible how ?
TheSkino75 I’m also interested in this question
Also interested. How does one lower the fat set point?
As a guy that has been obese in the past I to would like to know this
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From what I've found, set point goes up and rarely comes back down.
So this is the scientific proof that people who yo yo diet actually get fatter when they stop dieting and return to their normal way of eating? This changes or increases their "Set Point"? So would a bodybuilder that "Bulks" and then "Cuts" be considered a yo yo dieter? and does bulking and cutting change your "Set Point" So are your Adipose cells inert?
Good video - I admit I zoned out a little 🤣
But through experience of yo yo dieting I am living proof along with millions of others that this is true.
I cant wait to hear how to change it!
If it's a case of battling hunger every day for the rest of my life - then I'll cry!
As always excellent informational video!
So where's the follow up video to this he said he's making 2 years ago??
I’ve been dairy free carni for 4 years and still eat 4# of fatty meat daily. I’ve tried 80/20 and just couldn’t feel satiated. 65/35 seems to work better for satiety. I want to lean out but my appetite is huge. Any suggestions? I have hypothalamic-pituitary dysfunction, chronic pain from hyper mobility type ehlers Danlos syndrome, and chronic diarrhea. Some level of Mal absorption. I workout about 5 hours a day for pain management and mental health. My average intake is 3900/day but even that leaves me hungry. I’m getting desperate here and trying psyllium to fill me up. I need about 20g psyllium with 2# fatty meat to feel satiated. I eat 2x/day. 16/8 IF. Don’t get hungry between meals. Metabolic health markers are all optimal. Any advice would be appreciated. I am almost 46. I weigh 134# 5’6” menopausal. Would like to build more muscle and lean out a bit. I supplement all sex hormones and thyroid hormones and growth hormone due to brain hamate from 20 years of high dose opioid use for pain. My satiety signal’s definitely no longer work.
Interesting discussion.
Where’s the follow up video?
@biolayne, I've been searching for the follow up video regarding what to do if you've obtained new fat cells and what to do but I cannot find it. Do you mind posting the link here?
This is true. I just posted a weight loss video that revolves around this topic. I think you can drop your setpoint 5 pounds when losing 10 lbs. then go off diet for 2 weeks. check set point and it will be 5 pounds lower. This seems to be a realistic result. Then return to diet for another 2 weeks. Continue till you get to your desired weight.
This takes me back to the old Mind and Muscle / Avantlabs days.
So how would a very underweight anorexic recover back up to the body's healthy set-point with limiting the increase of additional fat cells at the body's comfort zone. What would the steps needed to be taken if a person was 30 pounds underweight, maintaining on 1100 calories, and looking to recover need to do to minimize the additional fat cells in recovery? btw, this video was fantastic and you explained it very well. thank you
Thanks layne I can’t wait for this series I’m overweight and I’ve always had an issue with appetite it’s the reason why I’ve never been able to lose body fat. I guess my leptin is out of wack. I really need a solution for this
Leptin resistance is a sign of a problem with insulin. When you are hungry it is because your body cannot access the fat stores in your body for energy.
George Orwell well insulin resistance is caused by overeating. Which is what I’ve been doing and I can’t stop I feel helpless
Actually, overeating occurs because you can't access the fat stores in your body for energy and the body needs to get energy from somewhere, so it makes you get hungry to get food energy. Insulin is the key to access to that fat to burn. Keeping insulin low is how fat can be burned.
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@@georgeorwell7149 that's because your not eating from the middle tasbih
Oh my god, so they went from 37 million fat cells to 55 million!? All that pain and misery, just to get fatter in the long run. I am really, REALLY looking forward to the next video about this. In the mean time, I stay the course with reverse dieting through Layne's creation of avatar nutrition.
I have nothing to do with avatar
biolayne, lmfao
It feels great to be the skinny kid now. Hopefully my mid to late 20's journey into the fat realm didn't do much damage.
Now a lot makes fucking sense!
Thanks doc!
Damn that shit is scary. Definitely going to be tuning in for more info. I bulk and cut every year in about a 15-20 pound range. I wonder if this is considered yo-yo dieting.
Where was the follow up video for this, please?!
Where’s the new video series on what to do if this is your situation???
Soooo...I would like to lose 10% of my body weight in fat and keep it off. Train and diet appropriately and supplement with Leptin?
Can number of fat cells decrease by maintaining low body fat?
So a solution may be to end your cut with a controlled, extended period at new maintenance before slowly increasing calories over time to create a surplus, right?
So we change our BF set point by increasing the number of adipocytes in the fat tissue, as all adipocytes will tend to go to a certain "adipocyte size set point"... then the question is: can we change the "adipocyte size set point" or reduce the number of adipocytes in the fat tissue (without surgical intervention)? If not, how do we prevent gaining more fat cells during the transition from cutting to bulking?
Wow, I'm really looking forward to this series! I'm scared to eat a big meal right now until I hear more. A couple questions I hope you can address:
How long was the open feeding period where the number of fat cells increased? Are we talking a meal or two or several days of straight binge eating to before this effect is triggered?
Are certain types of intermittent fasting schedules at risk of this? Squeezing your calories into certain sized windows sounds in theory like a "short term flux of energy across the fat cell".
Have you done the videos on how to prevent or fix the set point? This is the only video in the playlist. Or is it covered in the "Why Diets Fail" series?
Can you show the scientific evidences? (research publications) Thanks.
I'm still watching so you may cover this ... I have no hunger. I am overweight and I am *struggling* to get 1700 calories in. I get full so easily. I don't eat crap, I'm a whole food vegan, and my coach and RD have me at 50c/30f/20p. The weight just keeps going up. What the heck is wrong with my leptin??! And why am I not losing?
Well, this is profound and explains so much!
Too bad I haven't found it earlier. I'd had much less fat cells.
Where you've been 20 years ago? LOL