My, my. This woman in the Records department, acted like a petulant child!! “I won’t help you, unless you stop recording”!!! Then she starts cursing like a sailor. Totally disgusting. Then the cop clown 🤡 comes in asking for 🆔. No crimes were being committed. These good ole boys thought they would intimidate this citizen. Keep on pressing sir.
Just one comment. Turner V Driver is the 5th Circuit, and FL is the 11th Circuit. What you have there is Smith v Cumming which states, "The First Amendment protects the right to gather information about what public officials do on public property." Presumably, if she is the town hall clerk, she's a keeper of public records and that makes her a public official.
@@khdeaconfan Punta Gorda is in the middle district of FL so it's not binding on the northern district where Apalachicola is located. Sheets circumstances were also a little different not only because of ordinances, but because of where he was located inside the building where he was. Mind you, I don't fully agree with the outcome but he chose not to appeal it, so who knows where it could have gone if he had?
"Appa-lappa-ding-dong" 😂 You were hilarious in this one Josh! ❤ Woman paid with tax dollars needs to be replaced. She's wasting my money. I don't want my tax dollars wasted on employees that act like this.
Yeah this don't have anything to do with this 😢 Mesa Police Department pulled my friend over for not stopping all the way at a stop sign the cop got his information and gave him his ticket handed back all his information and then the cop said I want to search your vehicle and he said no the cop said I smell marijuana but my friend doesn't do marijuana so he told the cop the stop is over with start it up his car and started driving he was pulled out of his car at gunpoint by this cop and now the cop is in real big trouble he is suing for as much as he can get because the cop violated is right what's the traffic stop was over he had a right to drive away but not according to this police officer he's been fired and facing charges of assault with a deadly weapon false arrest just thought I'd let you know😂
@@joelthames1141 well the last time I heard he was fighting for his qualified immunity which probably will not work I'll have to get back to him and see what's going on because he's the kind of man that's not going to let it get away he's not going to say okay just give me money and I'll let it go he's not going to do that and all for just drifting through a stop sign
What happens when illegal photos are found on private phones? I am not sure what illegal photos are defined as. Sending them to someone is probably the crime.Just don’t know.
Police have an obligation to collect evidence. No bodycam should bring their testimony into doubt. I'm waiting for the gourt case where a jury believes someone's testimony over a cops purely on this legal argument.
omg!!!! HOW DENSE R THESE CITY “OFFICIALS “. Do they not have a chance to watch any of the AUDITS ON RUclips!!! You know they know they’re on here. Y not take time outta their “BUSY” work day n gander at some of um. They might accidentally learn a thing or three!!😮😂😂😂😁😀😂🤣😂
All public employees and all law enforcement employees and all judges should be required to take continuing education classes on local and Constitutional law. Period.
I am somewhat familiar with public safety equipment (2-way radio), but I believe most of these units are equipped with their own ‘FirstNet’ (AT&T) SIM card, and they automatically upload to the ‘cloud’. I like body cameras, I like dash cameras, they keep everyone honest (or they should), they also make for great entertainment when someone acts the fool on one.
Speculation: When a woman occupies a space, office, or building for any length of time, her "nesting insticnt" activates and she believes said space is HERS and HER "rules" apply to everyone.
If you go to Brett‘s page, not only does this woman publicly comment regularly on his post. She brings his personal life into context which has no reason to be brought into context. Her vehicle has a thin blue line flag on it and says that she’s the black Jeep of the family because she drives a black Jeep lol how original. I must say I have tried very hard to not get involved in Brett’s auditing but if anyone out there can point him in the right direction or legal assistance in the state of Florida for first amendment and apparently also fourth amendment violations, he would greatly appreciate it.
This is not a new or original violation for the Apalach police department in regards to Brett and it would be nice to have some variety of legal assistance in pursuing actions
We need laws passed that they can not turn off mute or Deleting body cameras and they have to give us a copy of them when asked ! We need these things to be passed into laws
Brett should FOIA the audit log for Officer Smith's body camera for the entire day then examine the time period of the incident for recordings or delete events. Also FOIA all Police reports from that day and possibly the next to see if there is a gap in report numbers.
Body cam footage should automatically be uploaded to a third party. As it is recording. That's just another set of checks and balances. In which there doesn't seem to be much of for law enforcement.
Definitely need to equip cops with these new body cans that they can't touch that way all. Evidence is preserved not that cops would delete that the tyrants that they are..... Noooooooioooo that would never happen
Employee in records department at Apalachicola Town Hall has worked to make it so people DON'T want to visit the town or even spend a penny there. Looks like a corrupt town for sure and the fact that the police didn't educate the employee that he has a right to video in public and ALL PUBLIC SERVANTS. She must think she is special and only made herself look like a total fool and unprofessional and rude. This video (sound) part should be played at a town meeting for the Mayor and other officials to see what she did and hold her accountable. And the body cam.... well pretty obvious that the cop deleted it and I would still put in a public records request for his body cam for the 2 hrs before and 2 hours after the incident.
I don't know why, but when you yelled applesauce I laughed for about 10 minutes striaght lol. God why did that stupid of a word crack me up that hard. Somethings wrong with me! Another great vid sir!
Creek Indians from Georgia and Alabama began settling along the river in the early 1700s. Apalachicola is an Indian word for “the people on the other side.” Today, the river today separates Eastern and Central time zones.
complaints need all round on every one and the top people need to know. hope he FIOA all the info and if that info not provided or such put in extra FIOA or appeals or get other departments to look into missing info.
I used to live in the Florida panhandle and I would take a greyhound from a little shit down called Defuniak Springs Florida to go to Tallahassee Florida. Apalachicola was on the route and we would always stop there to pick up patient leaving the mental hospital. I wonder if Karen was ever a resident of the mental hospital?
The supreme court hears about 100-150 cases a year and refuses to hear 7000 - 8000 a year. Of the 10’s of thousands of cases a year, the myth is that any one case can be determined by, or has been decided by the supreme court and that is the only place you will find precedence, or deciding material to use against what is clearly an abusive officer or employee. The truth is that all city & state entities can be most easily defeated using their internal policies and procedures on interaction with the public and our rights. The 14th Amendment guarantees Equal protection under the law for us all and forces a states employees to govern impartially and to not draw distinctions between individuals solely on differences that are irrelevant to a legitimate governmental objective, like a no recording policy for citizens, but not this government employee. The employees recording the citizen while demanding the citizen stop recording is the best way to easily defeat her in a lawsuit AND change policy, or bad government employee behavior. Sure, you can use the recent supreme court cases NO ONE KNOWS ABOUT YET, but why not just use the policy EVERYONE KNOWS AND EXPECTS, common decency, professionalism, and respect while pointing out the hypocrisy and / or lie that recording is prohibited. With regard to the bad cop… A departments policy on use of government databases and even entry into said databases for an unlawful use, or without the necessary law enforcement use predicate. It is a myth that law enforcement can look up a private citizens name, address, phone number anytime they want, especially if they have no reason to even enter the database and then use it to intimidate or harass citizens and that is exactly what that officer did on camera and in front of his supervision. I would be willing to bet that the Department policy and the officers own words and actions would be enough of get at least a letter of reprimand inserted into his permanent record that would cost him vacation days, promotions and possibly result in termination of employment if its a pattern of abuse of power. When coupled with other policy violations in his record it could even rise to criminality resulting in an officers conviction without any involvement in court by the citizen. This best illustrates the need to report problem officers. Remember, it’s not the fact that the department can and most likely will investigate and find no wrong doing, it’s the facts and pattern that eventually emerges that really matters. The tide is changing!
“It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong.” Thomas Sowell "Good Men shouldn’t rise to office because they want it for their own gain. But Good Men should rise to office because it is their moral duty to prevent evil men from doing so". - Plato This quote from Plato basically means that if you’re indifferent to public affairs or politics, you’re going to be victims to evil men in the sense that those who are good, generally have no need to amass control over others. Evil men on the contrary require control over others so that they are not held accountable for their crimes. Good men are often humble and don’t require positions of authority for self-validation. "How dismal it is to see present day Americans yearning for the very orthodoxy that their country was founded to escape." - Christopher Hitchens
Come on now get your cases straight. Smith V City of Cumming is the 11th US Circuit Court of Appeals case effecting Florida, Louisianna and Mississippi. Turner V driver is 5th US Circuit Court of Appeals and only effects Texas, Louisiana and Mississippi.
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She need to be fired and the cops
My, my. This woman in the Records department, acted like a petulant child!! “I won’t help you, unless you stop recording”!!! Then she starts cursing like a sailor. Totally disgusting. Then the cop clown 🤡 comes in asking for 🆔. No crimes were being committed. These good ole boys thought they would intimidate this citizen. Keep on pressing sir.
Just one comment. Turner V Driver is the 5th Circuit, and FL is the 11th Circuit. What you have there is Smith v Cumming which states, "The First Amendment protects the right to gather information about what public officials do on public property."
Presumably, if she is the town hall clerk, she's a keeper of public records and that makes her a public official.
What about Sheets vs Punta Gorda?
@@khdeaconfan Punta Gorda is in the middle district of FL so it's not binding on the northern district where Apalachicola is located.
Sheets circumstances were also a little different not only because of ordinances, but because of where he was located inside the building where he was.
Mind you, I don't fully agree with the outcome but he chose not to appeal it, so who knows where it could have gone if he had?
Huh?
True, but I think maybe Josh was maybe trying to make a point about filming public officials
Cops and employee disgusting! Thanks for sharing Josh!
Civil serpents.
They have a cad number and he is lying
How childish this woman sounds. It’s ridiculous
Yep
She had a toddler tantrum
The blue line stands strong. No mistake is too big for them to cover up.
"Appa-lappa-ding-dong" 😂 You were hilarious in this one Josh! ❤ Woman paid with tax dollars needs to be replaced. She's wasting my money. I don't want my tax dollars wasted on employees that act like this.
A "personal citizen"? Ladies and gentlemen we have with us, a Rhodes Scholar here.
More like a "Road Scholar"!
I hope that gentleman is smart enough to follow civil rights lawsuit for the town violating his civil rights
How do people in this physical condition become a cop who is supposed to be able to pass a pt test? heart attack waiting to happen!
There's a PT test in law enforcement?
They can charge someone with murder, if he gets worked up and has a heart attack.
@@modelcitizen394 Eating as many donuts in the fewest seconds.
"PT test"...for cops....😂🤣😂
@@littlelady3450 it's probably how many donuts you can polish off in 15 minutes!🤣
Cops shouldn't be able to delete anything that is for public use. After all we pay for it.
Calls and emails to this place !
She booms like a lighthouse foghorn!
no need to make fun of a town name,,,,make fun of the public servants.
Damn, is that all you got from watching this video?
This cops EGO is way bigger than his IQ
And so is his gut! These yahoo's couldn't pass a physical if they tried!
Standard.
Welcome to Gov Ronnie Bush's Gestapo State.
Dirty cops
THEY are everywhere.
I thought, liberals who let criminals out are the worst. How naive I am
FOIA
every body cam video which was downloaded that date.
AXON Data Trace
All dispatch communication one hour before event and two hours after.
Yeah this don't have anything to do with this 😢 Mesa Police Department pulled my friend over for not stopping all the way at a stop sign the cop got his information and gave him his ticket handed back all his information and then the cop said I want to search your vehicle and he said no the cop said I smell marijuana but my friend doesn't do marijuana so he told the cop the stop is over with start it up his car and started driving he was pulled out of his car at gunpoint by this cop and now the cop is in real big trouble he is suing for as much as he can get because the cop violated is right what's the traffic stop was over he had a right to drive away but not according to this police officer he's been fired and facing charges of assault with a deadly weapon false arrest just thought I'd let you know😂
Once that ticket is given, the traffic stop is complete. So yeah, if the cop is fired and facing charges, that's what should happen.
Oh my God that’s actually big news a police officer in Mesa has actually been fired for wrongdoing that’s almost unheard of
GREAT !!! FIRED ; CHARGED AND SUED -- MORE CASE LIKE THIS ARE NEEDED !!!
@@RonJDuncan But will the a-hole cop be convicted???
@@joelthames1141 well the last time I heard he was fighting for his qualified immunity which probably will not work I'll have to get back to him and see what's going on because he's the kind of man that's not going to let it get away he's not going to say okay just give me money and I'll let it go he's not going to do that and all for just drifting through a stop sign
Tyrant cop knows our rights but just doesn’t care.
Running plates for retaliation should be illegal.
Apalachicola , an old port town on the Gulf Coast.
He needs to ask for bwc footage from the day before, that day, and the day after. That would show no malfunction.
@happyas
Good idea.
Great idea
EVERY INCIDENT GETS A REPORT,THAT'S BOOK ONE O ONE.
@nickdischer
And isn't that the excuse they use to get your ID? We have to make a report of who we are "out with". I hate that expression.
Not in apalach lol.
Like most places in Florida, Apalachicola is a native American name. Its Creek for "the people on the other side"
Thank you ❤
Tallahassee is the worst. Miami is bad Orlando is bad Daytona is bad.
Many thanks to Gov. DeathSantis. But he is trying his best to demean young children's sexuality.
Josh’s commentary I’m dying 😂
Excellent analogy Josh!
How do public employees not know they work for us ,paid by us , and can be fired by us.
Nothing relevant remains to be said, you covered this well.
What happens when illegal photos are found on private phones? I am not sure what illegal photos are defined as. Sending them to someone is probably the crime.Just don’t know.
Police have an obligation to collect evidence. No bodycam should bring their testimony into doubt.
I'm waiting for the gourt case where a jury believes someone's testimony over a cops purely on this legal argument.
I agree with you, Josh, they ALWAYS COVER FOR EACH OTHERS’ CONSTITUTIONAL CRIMES!
That's why we are forced to have plates on our cars for that very reason Josh
Will his Camara kill her ? lol
omg!!!! HOW DENSE R THESE CITY “OFFICIALS “. Do they not have a chance to watch any of the AUDITS ON RUclips!!! You know they know they’re on here. Y not take time outta their “BUSY” work day n gander at some of um. They might accidentally learn a thing or three!!😮😂😂😂😁😀😂🤣😂
Their problem is called "Wanton Ignorance." "We don need no stinkin' education!"
I don't think a bodycam just allows a cop to delete, or edit his videos.
As Johnny B says.
Applachabees
Why in the fuck would some place in Florida be named Appalachian anything? The mountain range doesn't even make it there🤷🏼♂️.
Well genius it's spelled Apalachicola. Not like said mountain range. 🎉🎉🎉
@@hbhkennel918 thanks for answering my question......no need to be an ass about it though.....guess some people are just prick's
@@marvinkline5667 Yeah, it's my default demeanor. Did we just become best friends?
@@hbhkennel918 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Native American name probably,
Those huge natives lived down there and already had the place named probably.
I bet after the airing of this video, she's looking for new employment. 😄
Likely not! She fits right in with the other sub-standard clowns that 'work' in that po-dunk little town!
Keep up the great work brother
Great outro Josh 😂😂
❤ love you bro
Thanks!
AFA, you are the BEST!
All public employees and all law enforcement employees and all judges should be required to take continuing education classes on local and Constitutional law. Period.
Being a Lieutenant, maybe the second guy is just a more experienced liar.
I am somewhat familiar with public safety equipment (2-way radio), but I believe most of these units are equipped with their own ‘FirstNet’ (AT&T) SIM card, and they automatically upload to the ‘cloud’. I like body cameras, I like dash cameras, they keep everyone honest (or they should), they also make for great entertainment when someone acts the fool on one.
Speculation: When a woman occupies a space, office, or building for any length of time, her "nesting insticnt" activates and she believes said space is HERS and HER "rules" apply to everyone.
They shouldn't be able to redacted anything on body cam. Period
Aviator wearing, Rosco P. Coltrane to the rescue.
Smith vs Cummins !!
If you go to Brett‘s page, not only does this woman publicly comment regularly on his post. She brings his personal life into context which has no reason to be brought into context. Her vehicle has a thin blue line flag on it and says that she’s the black Jeep of the family because she drives a black Jeep lol how original. I must say I have tried very hard to not get involved in Brett’s auditing but if anyone out there can point him in the right direction or legal assistance in the state of Florida for first amendment and apparently also fourth amendment violations, he would greatly appreciate it.
This is not a new or original violation for the Apalach police department in regards to Brett and it would be nice to have some variety of legal assistance in pursuing actions
We need laws passed that they can not turn off mute or Deleting body cameras and they have to give us a copy of them when asked ! We need these things to be passed into laws
THAT CORRUPT,TYRANT,EVIL,CRIMINAL COP.
IS HE UNER THE INFLUENCE OF DRUGS AND ALCOHOL?
Brett should FOIA the audit log for Officer Smith's body camera for the entire day then examine the time period of the incident for recordings or delete events. Also FOIA all Police reports from that day and possibly the next to see if there is a gap in report numbers.
We need them right now not later
Body cam footage should automatically be uploaded to a third party. As it is recording. That's just another set of checks and balances. In which there doesn't seem to be much of for law enforcement.
Never GRADUATED THE 8TH GRADE EITHER HUH BIT...!!!
Yep
Yep, Apalachicola, disgraceful!
"Personal citizen" ... that doesn't make sense.
Definitely need to equip cops with these new body cans that they can't touch that way all. Evidence is preserved not that cops would delete that the tyrants that they are..... Noooooooioooo that would never happen
I had Apalachi-Cola once; tastes alright but it made me blind, I wouldn't recommend.
I would see a update with Pch, or the mayor😂😂🐷💯
Employee in records department at Apalachicola Town Hall has worked to make it so people DON'T want to visit the town or even spend a penny there. Looks like a corrupt town for sure and the fact that the police didn't educate the employee that he has a right to video in public and ALL PUBLIC SERVANTS. She must think she is special and only made herself look like a total fool and unprofessional and rude. This video (sound) part should be played at a town meeting for the Mayor and other officials to see what she did and hold her accountable. And the body cam.... well pretty obvious that the cop deleted it and I would still put in a public records request for his body cam for the 2 hrs before and 2 hours after the incident.
As a public employee i take affiance that you think the bar is set low don’t judge use by the few that are low bottom feeders
I don't know why, but when you yelled applesauce I laughed for about 10 minutes striaght lol. God why did that stupid of a word crack me up that hard. Somethings wrong with me! Another great vid sir!
It's a Native American name
Corruption
Stop driving your vehicle and get a scooter and Uber’s then watch the cops have mental breakdown when they can’t get any ID.
They should need some kind of probable cause or reasonable suspicion to run a tag 🤔🤔🤔
I used to live there in the 60's, when I was a kid.
is there an Appalacharootbeer too???
Creek Indians from Georgia and Alabama began settling along the river in the early 1700s. Apalachicola is an Indian word for “the people on the other side.” Today, the river today separates Eastern and Central time zones.
Welcome to the great town of Applepiecocacola. We're as American as it gets!! 😂😂
complaints need all round on every one and the top people need to know. hope he FIOA all the info and if that info not provided or such put in extra FIOA or appeals or get other departments to look into missing info.
And they'll raise our taxes to pay
Is that the kind of town where your wife is also your sister?
Yaaasss! An alternative is your 1st cousin!
I might just go to Apalachicola and look for Larry Smith and tell him what a gem he is.
Ok I’m born and raised in Florida so we don’t call ourselves hicks but ( bless your heart) figure this one out.. lol love your channel
I used to live in the Florida panhandle and I would take a greyhound from a little shit down called Defuniak Springs Florida to go to Tallahassee Florida. Apalachicola was on the route and we would always stop there to pick up patient leaving the mental hospital. I wonder if Karen was ever a resident of the mental hospital?
small town cops with a huge ego knowing that they can do anything they want
Is there any training given to public servants about the Constitution or their duties while on the clock?!!
She said no go
The supreme court hears about 100-150 cases a year and refuses to hear 7000 - 8000 a year.
Of the 10’s of thousands of cases a year, the myth is that any one case can be determined by, or has been decided by the supreme court and that is the only place you will find precedence, or deciding material to use against what is clearly an abusive officer or employee.
The truth is that all city & state entities can be most easily defeated using their internal policies and procedures on interaction with the public and our rights.
The 14th Amendment guarantees Equal protection under the law for us all and forces a states employees to govern impartially and to not draw distinctions between individuals solely on differences that are irrelevant to a legitimate governmental objective, like a no recording policy for citizens, but not this government employee. The employees recording the citizen while demanding the citizen stop recording is the best way to easily defeat her in a lawsuit AND change policy, or bad government employee behavior. Sure, you can use the recent supreme court cases NO ONE KNOWS ABOUT YET, but why not just use the policy EVERYONE KNOWS AND EXPECTS, common decency, professionalism, and respect while pointing out the hypocrisy and / or lie that recording is prohibited.
With regard to the bad cop…
A departments policy on use of government databases and even entry into said databases for an unlawful use, or without the necessary law enforcement use predicate. It is a myth that law enforcement can look up a private citizens name, address, phone number anytime they want, especially if they have no reason to even enter the database and then use it to intimidate or harass citizens and that is exactly what that officer did on camera and in front of his supervision. I would be willing to bet that the Department policy and the officers own words and actions would be enough of get at least a letter of reprimand inserted into his permanent record that would cost him vacation days, promotions and possibly result in termination of employment if its a pattern of abuse of power. When coupled with other policy violations in his record it could even rise to criminality resulting in an officers conviction without any involvement in court by the citizen.
This best illustrates the need to report problem officers. Remember, it’s not the fact that the department can and most likely will investigate and find no wrong doing, it’s the facts and pattern that eventually emerges that really matters.
The tide is changing!
@scanningnyc
Sounds reasonable if you could ever get them to take the complaint and not bury it just like the BWC footage he got rid of.
no argument from me, our system is VERY broke.
Restaurants, etc, etc are closing there!
Oh oh back up is coming ! Help!!
Florida is the worst state that violates the law and are un informed..
Can AFA help Brett get that malfunction report?
Register your car through an LLC.
What is a personal citizen? I’ve never heard that term used before.
Lol as soon as you mispronounced it I knew exactly what Hicksville little town you were talking about.
❤From South Africa ❤
“Apple pie”, “Christina Applegate”……😂
I see the fitness standards are high at this department, lol
“It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong.” Thomas Sowell
"Good Men shouldn’t rise to office because they want it for their own gain. But Good Men should rise to office because it is their moral duty to prevent evil men from doing so". - Plato
This quote from Plato basically means that if you’re indifferent to public affairs or politics, you’re going to be victims to evil men in the sense that those who are good, generally have no need to amass control over others. Evil men on the contrary require control over others so that they are not held accountable for their crimes.
Good men are often humble and don’t require positions of authority for self-validation.
"How dismal it is to see present day Americans yearning for the very orthodoxy that their country was founded to escape." - Christopher Hitchens
Needs to b fired
Josh, let us watch the video, please!!
Small town country cops scare my black ass.
I think I know that lady. That is KAREN!!
Come on now get your cases straight. Smith V City of Cumming is the 11th US Circuit Court of Appeals case effecting Florida, Louisianna and Mississippi.
Turner V driver is 5th US Circuit Court of Appeals and only effects Texas, Louisiana and Mississippi.
Dude you should audit the VADOC 😂 it’ll be good