This gun reminds me of those really old cartoons where the car mechanic fixes the broken down jalopy by pouring a bucket of gears and mechanical bits into it.
@@banmadabon It might cheapen the process, and if it works just fine it's not a big problem. But it's still not ideal to have something so loose when those pieces will be cycling at high speeds thousands of times. I still think this is quite an interesting pistol, though.
Hey, this is quite comparable to an Italian supercar- it's weird, different, stylish, overengineered, and it will decide to lock up at the worst moment imaginable :)
I haven't had a chance to work on any Italian cars but I've worked on a few German and British sports cars. The German cars are complicated but the actual repairs come down to replacing a component. British sports cars, especially my much beloved Triumph Spitfire, are just effing weird! My Dad was in the computer industry and worked with a lot of Brits in the 60's and 70's and this is how he described a British committee would work. "All the guys needed would finally arrive and sit down about 10:00AM. Then they would draw for an hour or so until someone would say 'That'll do nicely, let's go to the pub.'"
The magazine is really quite interesting in that it has some of the benefits of both a belt and a magazine. If you load it correctly, the first round is available immediately, and there’s no complicated manual of arms just to get your fancy belt to feed the gun, at the same time it also has much higher capacity too just like a normal belt, but unfortunately it is limited unlike a normal belt.
@@justforever96 in a pistol, I'd agree, but consider the design of this magazine in something like a SMG or PDW scale weapon, where you'd want a higher capacity-to-size ratio? If it can feed that type of weapon reliably (and I can't think of a reason why it couldn't), it might be worth the slightly more complex mag.
I really like the shoulder stock for this one, its probably my favorite out of all the holster/shoulder stock pistols. It compacts down to be pretty much the same size as a regular holster, including the retractable metal thing. Plus it has the ridigty aspect too so it could be used as an effective shoulder stock. Not bad.
I guarantee it is easier to load, as there is no spring tension to deal with. That said, with a maglula style loading device, loading high, high capacity is extremely easy. I finally bit the bullet after getting a FNX 45, 15 round of 45 is great, until you have to load it. The downside of a maglula is your ammo bill will go up, lol.
Judging by it's (ludicrous) level of complexity, I would think this wasn't just dreamed up as it is, there must have been a predecessor that it 'evolved' from. That would be very interesting to see ! If it was completely designed all in one with that magazine, it must have taken someone a very long time, that's enough to drive someone crazy, no wonder nobody wanted it !
I really wish there'd been a few more made just for the ability to see how well they operated. Truly novel, the only place I've seen a mechanism like that in guns is some of the artillery elevators.
This reminds me of the Dardick revolver, though that didn't have a removeable magazine. I'm always pleased to see another video of yours, whether new or old.
I wonder if the magazine was a great idea or it was a solution in search of a problem to solve. Sosso had a interesting idea with the use of sub assemblies and the use of a few stamped parts. If he had expanded on that to produce a handgun that could be made economically under war time conditions he might have had a significant weapon system.
FRANCESCO PRICOLO, CHIEF OF STAFF OF THE REGIA AERONAUTICA: boy those are pretty cool guns you guys have ARTURO RICCARDI, GRAND ADMIRAL OF THE REGIA MARINA: yeah it rules PRICOLO: do you, uh, do you think he made one for me PIETRO BADOGLIO, FIELD MARSHAL OF THE ROYAL ITALIAN ARMY: pretty sure they only made four of these, my dude PRICOLO: oh... okay
Hi Ian love the videos glad someone is bring to light some of these amazing guns and was wondering have you ever had the chance to play with a Charlton automatic rifle?
Ian! just wanted to say thank you for alway doing these awesome videos. never been into guns until recently. now I am in love with the mechanics, so I have been watching your videos for weeks. sorry I can't join the patreon
Just goes to show you, that some folks have a better idea, others just think they do. This was a very interesting gun, and that magazine design is simply wild, it sort of makes sense in a simple way. The loading of the magazine would be much easier with no spring to fight, especially on those stiff last few rounds that seem to cut little grooves in my old and tender fingers.
One MAJOR benefit to that magazine design is the ease with which it can be loaded. Some double-stack pistol mags are thumb killers! I would love to have a gun with a mag like that :)
it brings up something I've noticed about stampings- people mention them like stamped sheet parts are cheap or crude compared to a milled part, but sometimes they can be really pretty. There's a smoothed out look you get when you design a part for stamping that I like.
How about doing a show explaining the gun laws. What needs a permit-what doesn't. and what the cost is to get these permits. I'm sure I'm not the only person who is a bit confused by it all.
Gotta love living in a free state. It's like that here in Maine as well. No firearm or magazine restrictions whatsoever (except for the NFA ones of course).
crossbow1203 most states require no permits to buy and own handguns, rifles and shotguns. If you want to cc you need a permit If you want shortbarreled rifles/ shotgun you need to pay a 200 dollar tax stamp If you want a full auto you better be rich A video on this would be rather dry and uninteresting
I'm always interested in mechanisms of these old weapons as I am interested in home builds... this one is a bit complicated as many of the old ones are. but I always learn from these videos. keep it up Ian.
Is it just me, or does this gun have a really nice holster stock setup? Seems like usually these sorts of stocks are huge and bulky and made of wood but this one is just like a regular (but somewhat heavier) holster that can expand into a stock. I'm not sure how good of a stock it would be to use but the concept is cool.
As the video started, I began to wonder "why did the shoulder stock holsters go out of fashion? Maybe I should look it up... ok." :) Also: when the recipients of #1-5 were listed, I was trying to guess who was next. My own favorite guess was the Pope.
I just don't understand the classification of a stocked pistol as a "Short barreled Rifle," and even if that did make sense, how in the hell does a shoulder stock make a pistol more dangerous? I kind of agree on a holster-stock generally doing neither role well, but for a large part, that's you're only option (The few that are NFA exempt, like the Inglis High-Power) but in every conceivable way, a shoulder stock makes a pistol less concealable, more secure (in terms of Retention) and better for Accurate fire, which pistols really suck at, without inordinate amounts of training, and practice. Which means more missed shots, and collateral damage, simply because of a senseless rule that calls a Pistol a Rifle, so manufacturers have to make up an "Arm Brace" that the ATF doesn't consider a "Shoulder Stock." Even though you can use it like one, the Arm Brace is designed for firing from the hip. Which is a rediculous, and more dangerous way to use a pistol. What exactly are they smoking at the ATF?
They're defining a rifle as anything with the ability to shoulder. The legal definitions are definitely weird. What do you expect from people who know nothing about guns making rules for them?
It would be cool if this had a revolver style double action trigger so you could advance the magazine with just the trigger. It would also be even more complicated.
In my younger days when I was dreaming up weapons I thought of pretty much that type of magazine, (which goes to show there are very few new ideas) but my idea was an assassins weapon & took live rounds from the left side & fed the spent cases into the right, so no evidence left behind.
Lady Azkadelia sound idea however three problems. 1 practicality. how are you going to unload the Mag? and imagine the size it would be queit big and unwieldy. 2 Purpose. having the bullets stay in the gun would be pointless. Police can tell the size of a bullet by examining it as well as powder residue. 3 Usefulness. the gun would be to big to use and the you'll need a action specific to the gun as well but chainlink cases are noisy and very loud to operate. so in other words great idea but you'll have to make it work
1. Same way you unload a revolver with a gate. 2. Finger prints on the cases is why you want to retrieve the spent casings, also .38 special and .357 Magnum use the same bullet but have wildly differing muzzle energies. 3. Many purpose built assassin firearms have been quite big take the 9mm firing Welrod or .45ACP firing De Lisle carbine for example, meanwhile putting a silencer on a regular hand gun massively lengthens it to where it's like a small carbine.
Nanny would like a paper-wrapped bullet that comprises a signed, fingerprinted confession of intent from the pictured shooter. Idealists are delighted with fallible complexity, but outraged that evil intent is not viewed as self-evident because it is a gun.
Cool gun! I can see a lot of things that can go wrong with it, if used a lot in battle conditions. Wear and tear, not to mention all small bits you could loose when cleaning the thing out on the field. All that would be serious concern, had the Italians bought the gun.
Dr. No scene: Professor Dent unloads his M1941 Sosso into the dummy under the bed covers. Bond says:"It's a Sosso. And you've had your 21..." "Thwup ! Thwup! "
Something for a supervillain in a Bond movie, but def not something you issue in any numbers.. Btw, the chain mag could potentially save the length but results in a huge increase in thickness. Stechkin APS mags from 1950s hold 20 rounds of a slightly thicker Soviet 9mm but seem more compact this this.
The gun is overly complex, the magazine is not. I wonder why no one else ever made something similar. Simple, functional, advantageous, foolproof and innovative. In simple words, that's genius!
The pronunciation is good, but suffers the most common mistake of english people: you dont pronounce the double consonants. Its "Sos-so" but it sounds "soso". "Fàb-brica" sounds "fabrìca". Watch out for the stress.
a completely weird one for sure!! although, you'd think at least one military would have issued stocked pistols to aircrews, it seems to be a good option for a survival weapon? better than the AR-7 or the M-6 at least as to fighting off a capture team!!
This pistol is so Italian it hurts. It's complicated and ambitious and probably temperamental, but goddamn, you still want one anyway. Does this classify as the first "Wonder Nine"?
One really has to wonder what possessed these inventors to spend so much time and money designing such incredibly complicated guns,knowing they would be far too expensive and in many cases too frail for hard use. Experience shows that relatively simple guns won the contracts. It's a miracle the British army didn't go to war armed with a blowpipe!
This pistol is way too complicated! I can just see this thing jamming with the slightest bit of dirt in it! And all of the tiny little parts would need oil in order to keep the function of the pistol working smoothly. Well, this is of course my opinion which is worth absolutely nothing to anyone but me, however, I do think the level of complication and cost of manufacturing and field stripping was what killed this pistol. And this comment is being made at minute 11:00. I may come back after finishing the video and add to my comment. Well, Ian agrees with me on complications and cost of manufacture! So this is what made this pistol fail to go further. I do think the magazine was a very unique design. Although with this design it adds to the complication of the pistol!
Where was '0' supposed to go? Who was supposed to get that one? Also, I wonder if King Em getting uno and Mussolini getting due was a little barb at 'Il Duce' from the manufacturer.
Ian, that has to be the Chinese Shar Pei of handguns, it's so ugly it's beautiful, but I would love to have one. It's too bad no body has come up with a more friendly way to set up and cycle that massive rotary magazine. Thanks for sharing.
Actually magazine springs wearing out in a military application firearm is a big deal . It's why some are magazines are over engineered and others are from the outset considered wear parts that either an armorer or the individual soldier is going to dispose of and replace with a new one at some point in the wepons service life . Remember most militaries even prior to WWII were looking for service life that was defined by maximum durability over everything .Which is probably what killed this gun LOL .
Those shoulder stock/holsters from that era are in the category of: "I get why it was made, and I equally get why it was phased out." Good in theory, not so great in practicality.
I have a question for you Ian, throughout most if not all the firearms i've seen, the mainspring is relatively narrow and long. Even though the total bolt travel could be the same if a shorter stiffer spring was chosen, the advantage of saved space would be huge, so why continue to go with a longer spring??
Both Browning's swinging link or a rotating barrel are better, more efficient & cheaper...trust teh Italians to ignore both methods & design something so drastically over complicated
That moment when even German engineers look at you and say, 'You're over-thinking this'.
And the Swiss machinists say, "that's way too much work, dude" 😜
So it almost has the capacity of a Hollywood revolver?!
Almost, but is not quite there yet.
It's so intricate that listening to the explanation of how it works feels like someone describing a rube goldberg machine
almost (?) qualifies for steampunk....
This gun reminds me of those really old cartoons where the car mechanic fixes the broken down jalopy by pouring a bucket of gears and mechanical bits into it.
is it any good?
its soso
il get me coat
DAMMIT I WAS GOING TO SAY THIS
You beat everybody to it. Well done sir.
All in all though, it's a soso joke to be honest.
eatthisvr6 Darn it! I need to be faster on the comments. 😀
-Jen
2 years too late to the party, am I? I will not miss the next pun!
@@taylordavison6849 a gun pun is a ton of fun son, I'm done, but you won this one 'cuz no pun was done.
The Sosso"s magazine is one of the most unique and innovative things I've on this channel.
"Several of these pieces come out when you shake the gun" is just not a sentence you want to hear...
It fits the the name tho
@@banmadabon It might cheapen the process, and if it works just fine it's not a big problem. But it's still not ideal to have something so loose when those pieces will be cycling at high speeds thousands of times.
I still think this is quite an interesting pistol, though.
how did the gun operate....it was Sosso
Is this the only semi-automatic suited for russian roulette? 😜😜😜😜😜
Jaimy van der Horst The Guycot chain pistol would work too
yep! the rest it would be Pollock roulette!!!!
Italian roulette!
There all suitable if you wannna die
My Channel Lacks Originality that would be a double action pistol, not semiautomatic.
I've heard of "automatic" revolvers, This is the first time I've seen a revolving "automatic" 👍👍👍
Very rare occasion where italians out-over-engineer swiss and germany.
Wisewarna Nazara
It's impressive how Italian guns no matter how complicated still work quite nicely
Nope .u.
hopefully your not talking about Shitretta!!! those guns can't hit the ground if you dropped it!!! shitty triggers to!!!!
You sure sound like an unbiased and reasonable person.
keith moore
So wrong.
And it's Beretta.
Repeat.
_Be-Ret-Ta_
Easy.
The pistol stand looked like something totally different to me at first. That's what I get for watching Forgotten Weapons past midnight.
That's probably one of the coolest pistols you've shown (in my opinion) and it's all because of the mag.:D
Hey, this is quite comparable to an Italian supercar- it's weird, different, stylish, overengineered, and it will decide to lock up at the worst moment imaginable :)
exactly!
I haven't had a chance to work on any Italian cars but I've worked on a few German and British sports cars. The German cars are complicated but the actual repairs come down to replacing a component. British sports cars, especially my much beloved Triumph Spitfire, are just effing weird! My Dad was in the computer industry and worked with a lot of Brits in the 60's and 70's and this is how he described a British committee would work.
"All the guys needed would finally arrive and sit down about 10:00AM. Then they would draw for an hour or so until someone would say 'That'll do nicely, let's go to the pub.'"
@@petesampson4273
Sounds like my kind of job.
The magazine is really quite interesting in that it has some of the benefits of both a belt and a magazine. If you load it correctly, the first round is available immediately, and there’s no complicated manual of arms just to get your fancy belt to feed the gun, at the same time it also has much higher capacity too just like a normal belt, but unfortunately it is limited unlike a normal belt.
Maybe, maybe not. Isn’t it better to be prepared and not need it?
@@justforever96 in a pistol, I'd agree, but consider the design of this magazine in something like a SMG or PDW scale weapon, where you'd want a higher capacity-to-size ratio? If it can feed that type of weapon reliably (and I can't think of a reason why it couldn't), it might be worth the slightly more complex mag.
Here's a weird thought: this thing is closest to an auto revolver, sure it has a belt instead of a cylinder, but both are ultimately rotary in nature.
I really like the shoulder stock for this one, its probably my favorite out of all the holster/shoulder stock pistols. It compacts down to be pretty much the same size as a regular holster, including the retractable metal thing. Plus it has the ridigty aspect too so it could be used as an effective shoulder stock. Not bad.
For some strange reason, the design very roughly reminds me of the Beretta gun designs, like the 92. If you squint really hard that is.
I love that magazine load dozens of them and stick them in the cabinet without having to exercise them and have them all work when you need them.
Episodes like this make my day. The obscure weapons like this really are forgotten weapons.
Id really like to see a demonstration of the magazine being loaded
I agree, and I'm curious to see if it's easier to load than a typical high capacity mag. Might have been an alternative to sore thumbs ;-)
I guarantee it is easier to load, as there is no spring tension to deal with.
That said, with a maglula style loading device, loading high, high capacity is extremely easy.
I finally bit the bullet after getting a FNX 45, 15 round of 45 is great, until you have to load it.
The downside of a maglula is your ammo bill will go up, lol.
Judging by it's (ludicrous) level of complexity, I would think this wasn't just dreamed up as it is, there must have been a predecessor that it 'evolved' from. That would be very interesting to see !
If it was completely designed all in one with that magazine, it must have taken someone a very long time, that's enough to drive someone crazy, no wonder nobody wanted it !
Curved magazine in a straight grip - wasn't expecting that.
-Jen
And curved the other way than all other curved magazines.
And that is reversed
So, the Sosso holster was only so so? Well that's nominative determinism for you. :P
I really wish there'd been a few more made just for the ability to see how well they operated. Truly novel, the only place I've seen a mechanism like that in guns is some of the artillery elevators.
That has to be one of the most interesting magazines ive ever seen
your not fighting the spring when loading, which I like
This reminds me of the Dardick revolver, though that didn't have a removeable magazine. I'm always pleased to see another video of yours, whether new or old.
"I want a really complicated pistol with a lot of small pieces that are easily lost" said no soldier ever. :-D
Gorgeous jewel of a pistol and lock mechanism. Cool magazine too. Pity so few were made. But all the machine work must have cost a fortune
I wonder if the magazine was a great idea or it was a solution in search of a problem to solve.
Sosso had a interesting idea with the use of sub assemblies and the use of a few stamped parts. If he had expanded on that to produce a handgun that could be made economically under war time conditions he might have had a significant weapon system.
FRANCESCO PRICOLO, CHIEF OF STAFF OF THE REGIA AERONAUTICA: boy those are pretty cool guns you guys have
ARTURO RICCARDI, GRAND ADMIRAL OF THE REGIA MARINA: yeah it rules
PRICOLO: do you, uh, do you think he made one for me
PIETRO BADOGLIO, FIELD MARSHAL OF THE ROYAL ITALIAN ARMY: pretty sure they only made four of these, my dude
PRICOLO: oh... okay
Hi Ian love the videos glad someone is bring to light some of these amazing guns and was wondering have you ever had the chance to play with a Charlton automatic rifle?
Ian! just wanted to say thank you for alway doing these awesome videos. never been into guns until recently. now I am in love with the mechanics, so I have been watching your videos for weeks. sorry I can't join the patreon
Just goes to show you, that some folks have a better idea, others just think they do. This was a very interesting gun, and that magazine design is simply wild, it sort of makes sense in a simple way. The loading of the magazine would be much easier with no spring to fight, especially on those stiff last few rounds that seem to cut little grooves in my old and tender fingers.
Thank you from Italy for showing us this gem!
One MAJOR benefit to that magazine design is the ease with which it can be loaded. Some double-stack pistol mags are thumb killers! I would love to have a gun with a mag like that :)
Dose someone still say that German constructions are to complicated!
This has so many ideas I love (and thought of independently). I'll probably rewatch this so many times
that magazine is a revolver cylinder thought right out of the box...or into a box?
And here I thought you couldn't make a weirder magazine than the Evans rifle
it brings up something I've noticed about stampings- people mention them like stamped sheet parts are cheap or crude compared to a milled part, but sometimes they can be really pretty. There's a smoothed out look you get when you design a part for stamping that I like.
How does it shoot?
"Oh, only so-so"
Boooooooooooo Boooooooooo booo on you
How about doing a show explaining the gun laws. What needs a permit-what doesn't. and what the cost is to get these permits. I'm sure I'm not the only person who is a bit confused by it all.
crossbow1203 the laws are different in most states. you might do better googling it yourself.
Gotta love living in a free state. It's like that here in Maine as well. No firearm or magazine restrictions whatsoever (except for the NFA ones of course).
crossbow1203 most states require no permits to buy and own handguns, rifles and shotguns.
If you want to cc you need a permit
If you want shortbarreled rifles/ shotgun you need to pay a 200 dollar tax stamp
If you want a full auto you better be rich
A video on this would be rather dry and uninteresting
...No they've had an AWB for a long time. You're thinking of the challenge to the Maryland AWB, maybe?
but there are several states that have "constitutional carry" which means no permit required.
your pronunciation of his name was so-so ;)
It manages to look futuristic and outdated at the same time, what a feat.
That's "So" cool that I would Love to have a reproduction of my own.
" There's this gun that's been on my mind.
All the time, So-Sossodio, oh oh. "
I'm always interested in mechanisms of these old weapons as I am interested in home builds... this one is a bit complicated as many of the old ones are. but I always learn from these videos. keep it up Ian.
Prototype videos are always my favorites, never fail to be very interesting.
Is it just me, or does this gun have a really nice holster stock setup? Seems like usually these sorts of stocks are huge and bulky and made of wood but this one is just like a regular (but somewhat heavier) holster that can expand into a stock. I'm not sure how good of a stock it would be to use but the concept is cool.
Just when your day is over and you think, you've seen it all Ian finds another weird stuff...
Extremely complicated for a so-so handgun. The magazine is indeed very interesting though.
“How’s that for a weird looking magazine
As the video started, I began to wonder "why did the shoulder stock holsters go out of fashion? Maybe I should look it up... ok." :)
Also: when the recipients of #1-5 were listed, I was trying to guess who was next. My own favorite guess was the Pope.
wow very complex pistol looks amazing and helghasty
That’s exactly what I thought, weird magazines does feel very helghasty
You pronounced Giulio and Brescia pretty good, even here if I had a friend with sosso as surname I would had problem pronouncing it
what a gloriously complicated hand cannon that is
I can just imagine the horror of the machinist when Sosso gave him the drawings of this and said "make this pistol for me" (in Italian)!!!
Hi this guide is inaccurate.
The Italian sidearms generally consisted of Cannolis
leave the gun, take the cannoli
Completely ridiculous, if it wasn't for the magazine capacity it would have been an utter waste of time.
It's not the best gun I've ever seen. Or the worst.
It's just so so.
I just don't understand the classification of a stocked pistol as a "Short barreled Rifle," and even if that did make sense, how in the hell does a shoulder stock make a pistol more dangerous? I kind of agree on a holster-stock generally doing neither role well, but for a large part, that's you're only option (The few that are NFA exempt, like the Inglis High-Power) but in every conceivable way, a shoulder stock makes a pistol less concealable, more secure (in terms of Retention) and better for Accurate fire, which pistols really suck at, without inordinate amounts of training, and practice. Which means more missed shots, and collateral damage, simply because of a senseless rule that calls a Pistol a Rifle, so manufacturers have to make up an "Arm Brace" that the ATF doesn't consider a "Shoulder Stock." Even though you can use it like one, the Arm Brace is designed for firing from the hip. Which is a rediculous, and more dangerous way to use a pistol. What exactly are they smoking at the ATF?
They're defining a rifle as anything with the ability to shoulder. The legal definitions are definitely weird. What do you expect from people who know nothing about guns making rules for them?
It would be cool if this had a revolver style double action trigger so you could advance the magazine with just the trigger. It would also be even more complicated.
really cool gun nice video and nice explanation greetings from Slovenia
Lasko Pivo, prosim!
your pronunciation was so so. 😊😊great video as always
German Engineer: ''we have zhe most complex mechanisms!''
Italian Engineer: ''Hold my pasta''
Guys tell me that I'm not the only one who can't stop to watch new videos of Inrange+ForgottenWeapons.
Another cool video :) Ian, still no 1888 Krupp Vintage Saturday?
*Italians discover the Browning Hi-Power*
"We can make it better. We have the technology!"
That disassembly and explanation of function fried my brain
In my younger days when I was dreaming up weapons I thought of pretty much that type of magazine, (which goes to show there are very few new ideas) but my idea was an assassins weapon & took live rounds from the left side & fed the spent cases into the right, so no evidence left behind.
Lady Azkadelia sound idea however three problems. 1 practicality. how are you going to unload the Mag? and imagine the size it would be queit big and unwieldy. 2 Purpose. having the bullets stay in the gun would be pointless. Police can tell the size of a bullet by examining it as well as powder residue. 3 Usefulness. the gun would be to big to use and the you'll need a action specific to the gun as well but chainlink cases are noisy and very loud to operate. so in other words great idea but you'll have to make it work
Yeah, as I said this was in my younger impractical days, lol.
1. Same way you unload a revolver with a gate.
2. Finger prints on the cases is why you want to retrieve the spent casings, also .38 special and .357 Magnum use the same bullet but have wildly differing muzzle energies.
3. Many purpose built assassin firearms have been quite big take the 9mm firing Welrod or .45ACP firing De Lisle carbine for example, meanwhile putting a silencer on a regular hand gun massively lengthens it to where it's like a small carbine.
Nanny would like a paper-wrapped bullet that comprises a signed, fingerprinted confession of intent from the pictured shooter. Idealists are delighted with fallible complexity, but outraged that evil intent is not viewed as self-evident because it is a gun.
I bet researching this gun would give clues to the identity of Fireplace Guy.
Looks amazing, love the chunkiness of it ;)
I actually like that stock.
this comment aged really well
Great video. It's these type guns that I watch this channel to see. (Among others) the obscure, unusual and interesting.
With this kind of master of complications pistol is no wonder that Mussolini was caught alive! Twice!
Cool gun!
I can see a lot of things that can go wrong with it, if used a lot in battle conditions. Wear and tear, not to mention all small bits you could loose when cleaning the thing out on the field. All that would be serious concern, had the Italians bought the gun.
can someone explain the specific difference between hammer and striker fired?
impressive mechanics. thanks for the video. great video!
Dr. No scene:
Professor Dent unloads his M1941 Sosso into the dummy under the bed covers.
Bond says:"It's a Sosso. And you've had your 21..."
"Thwup ! Thwup! "
ok, its complicated and expensive, but its a very badass gun anyhow
Something for a supervillain in a Bond movie, but def not something you issue in any numbers.. Btw, the chain mag could potentially save the length but results in a huge increase in thickness. Stechkin APS mags from 1950s hold 20 rounds of a slightly thicker Soviet 9mm but seem more compact this this.
The gun is overly complex, the magazine is not. I wonder why no one else ever made something similar. Simple, functional, advantageous, foolproof and innovative. In simple words, that's genius!
Nice gun! Keep up the good work!
The pronunciation is good, but suffers the most common mistake of english people: you dont pronounce the double consonants. Its "Sos-so" but it sounds "soso".
"Fàb-brica" sounds "fabrìca". Watch out for the stress.
a completely weird one for sure!! although, you'd think at least one military would have issued stocked pistols to aircrews, it seems to be a good option for a survival weapon? better than the AR-7 or the M-6 at least as to fighting off a capture team!!
The soso was So-So. Okay I will leave
They obviously never heard of the KISS principle. You know, Keep It Simple Stupid. It makes you appreciate the genius of Browning.
I don't have high expectations for a gun called "So-so"
Very cool pistol, thanks for the episode
This pistol is so Italian it hurts. It's complicated and ambitious and probably temperamental, but goddamn, you still want one anyway. Does this classify as the first "Wonder Nine"?
It's not DA/SA, so no.
One really has to wonder what possessed these inventors to spend so much time and money designing such incredibly complicated guns,knowing they would be far too expensive and in many cases too frail for hard use. Experience shows that relatively simple guns won the contracts. It's a miracle the British army didn't go to war armed with a blowpipe!
This pistol is way too complicated! I can just see this thing jamming with the slightest bit of dirt in it! And all of the tiny little parts would need oil in order to keep the function of the pistol working smoothly. Well, this is of course my opinion which is worth absolutely nothing to anyone but me, however, I do think the level of complication and cost of manufacturing and field stripping was what killed this pistol. And this comment is being made at minute 11:00. I may come back after finishing the video and add to my comment. Well, Ian agrees with me on complications and cost of manufacture! So this is what made this pistol fail to go further. I do think the magazine was a very unique design. Although with this design it adds to the complication of the pistol!
Where was '0' supposed to go? Who was supposed to get that one? Also, I wonder if King Em getting uno and Mussolini getting due was a little barb at 'Il Duce' from the manufacturer.
Ian, that has to be the Chinese Shar Pei of handguns, it's so ugly it's beautiful, but I would love to have one. It's too bad no body has come up with a more friendly way to set up and cycle that massive rotary magazine. Thanks for sharing.
Actually magazine springs wearing out in a military application firearm is a big deal . It's why some are magazines are over engineered and others are from the outset considered wear parts that either an armorer or the individual soldier is going to dispose of and replace with a new one at some point in the wepons service life . Remember most militaries even prior to WWII were looking for service life that was defined by maximum durability over everything .Which is probably what killed this gun LOL .
Gabbet-Fairfax Mars was a field howitzer converted into a pistol. This one is more like a WWI machine gun converted into a pistol.
Nice one like the magazine ID.
Those shoulder stock/holsters from that era are in the category of: "I get why it was made, and I equally get why it was phased out." Good in theory, not so great in practicality.
I have a question for you Ian, throughout most if not all the firearms i've seen, the mainspring is relatively narrow and long. Even though the total bolt travel could be the same if a shorter stiffer spring was chosen, the advantage of saved space would be huge, so why continue to go with a longer spring??
Both Browning's swinging link or a rotating barrel are better, more efficient & cheaper...trust teh Italians to ignore both methods & design something so drastically over complicated