FAQ because im a very important person “some of these song choices were bad!” im aware, i didn’t want to show brad only music I thought he would like “why didn’t you include x artist?” this stream was already over four hours long “why didn’t you chose spring day for BTS?” i’ve shown brad spring day and he hated it “why didn’t you chose haru haru for bigbang?” i probably should’ve “why did you spend so much time discussing controversies in kpop?” kpop is a deeply flawed genre and culture and it’d be a great disservice to those who have been wronged by it to not include criticisms “what headphones are you using?” airpod pros :sob:
Don’t worry about people complaining what you’re doing is awesome. This and the brostep playlist have been great and the fact that you’re putting this much dedication and money into it shows how much you really care. Even though you put a lot of bs in the queue the Brad taste community and I appreciate all of it
49:07 girls' generation is actually a fitting name for the group since back then girl groups were still pretty much under the shadow of boy groups, and they were able to pave the way for other girl groups and women in the industry. gee was the first kpop music video to reach 100 million views here on youtube, and was recently ranked as the greatest song in kpop history by rolling stone. a funny fact about this song is that one of the group's member, taeyeon, cried before recording it because she hated the song so much 😭 but yeah, gee is without a question one of the most influential and important kpop songs ever
the presenter was extremely biased towards certain groups, but its funny that brad still trashed their songs anyway lmao he's actually honest and doesn't care
nah bro this presenter is so bad... Like genuinely he did so many groups dirty. You should ask someone who actually listens to many groups and their whole discographies. This guy was just promoting the groups he likes. Man other groups also have good songs. This is probably the worst introduction someone can give to someone.
As someone who has been a fan of/listening to kpop for well over a decade....this was a trip to see 😵💫 sooo much misinformation and missing information about such crucial groups in the genre and the pronunciations were so.........oh boy. A fun watch though overall, and a good trip down memory lane !
@@GabrielAlves-nl2gf chen baekhyun and xiumin never terminated their contract or left exo, there are a bunch of videos that explain the seungri/jung joonyoung/jang jayeon situation way better than this guy
Brad actually enjoying Red Velvet, Loona and Twice fills me with so much glee. Honestly a full Red Velvet stream would be perfect even if its my lesbian bias talking especially the Perfect Red Velvet that album I think he would love (its the same album with Bad Boy) since it has good pop stuff but also the second half especially a lot of "Velvet" songs which are more R&B focused which they do well.
Same!! I've been wanting to send in one of RV's songs in on a request stream for the longest time but never did (mostly because I could never choose what song) but I was so glad he liked them
I mean at the end of the day, groups like Red Velvet, Loona and Twice just make good music, regardless of the language barrier. Loona especially has some incredibly complex and sophisticated pop/r&b songs and also some really experimental genre mashing. We all know Red Velvet are the queens of kpop r&b and just make great albums (mostly). And twice are just refined pop perfection.
I think Brad would really connect with the production side of Loona’s music. Most of their discography is just incredibly well done and is collectively some of the best music I’ve ever heard in general, be it western, global or everything in between.
I can’t lie this was awful for GGs. A whole generation of female groups skipped. WG’s and SNSD’s impact were not thoroughly explained. BLACKPINK was relegated to “I just don’t like them” and Boombayah as their song pick? Twice section is too short. F(X), S.E.S, FinK.L Baby Vox, and IU not getting segments, but Brave Girls and Loona did.
i wouldnt complain about loona being there since their music production is actually awesome, but brave girls??? really??? also some of these songs choice are just.... yeah....
Scregale knowing basically nothing about Girls Generation had me itching lol. Its ok, but I wish he was able to explain how legendary they are and the impact they had on the industry, culture and women. They're the blueprint for every girl group even now. I wouldv'e loved for him to show Brad Into the New World and how it became a protest song. Even the name of the group lol Brad I promise it's not cringey! The name has meaning , it's old language and the direct translation is "The era of maidens" and derives from an older korean song. Still a great presentation though, he did a great job!
I’m glad I saw this comment before watching because nothing makes me angry in kpop than snsd not getting the recognition they deserve. I don’t know if I can watch this now, but I’m still going to try
@@LaurenPebble I mean it's frustrating to watch but the rest of the video is well done. You can just skip that part or if you don't just remember the comments Brad makes are without context/ignorance. You'd think as a long time kpop fan he would know a little about snsd though lol
YES! Into the new world or their self titled track are incredible. Also so many girl groups left out.... would've liked to see apink, kara, girls' day, f(x), orange caramel, or sistar
My gf loves K-pop and she opened my eyes that there is some genuinely good stuff that comes from the genre. It's great pop music ngl, better than western pop imo and I'm a metal/rock kinda guy. It's a genre that is definitely worth a look, I wrote it off as a gimmick at first but yeah it's still just a music genre with lows and highs, worth a dive. Other artists I can recommend: Henry, Boyfriend, Teen Top, Beast, Ateez (probably my favorite) and Drug Restaurant. These are only off the top of my head.
Beast have excellent tunes, great call out. At least their early stuff was pretty good. I haven’t kept up with their later albums as much. Strangely, Ateez haven’t grown on me yet. I think it’s because they don’t seem as melodic, more rap/drop focused.
this was a lost opportunity. Too much talk , so few song reactions and some really bad choices that didn't represented the eras at all. Worst part is that there was so much fixation at the scandals of some groups that it gave Brad some bad first impressions before he listened to a song, and he was less and less open to the songs as the time went on.
Maaaaan... Punk in general would be insanely difficult and a long ass video. I'd watch the whole damn thing tho lol. I think it would probably be more feasible to do specific punk subgenres at a time.
@@mocapcow2933 You're right, Post-Punk would be a better pick of a genre. Unfortunately, I cannot make him do it as I have no money, but if anyone not broke could do it than that would be really cool.
I loved seeing chat go absolutely mental when Eclipse came on. It was also so cool to see Brad enjoy it. Hopefully we can some more loona reactions but if that happens we gotta make sure brad gets the google drive folder.
As someone who kinda unbiased with kpop groups because I stan no one, this presentation is very biased to some groups. This was like a documentary of Asian culture by a normies western lmao
although i dislike the groups that included their controversies (such as super junior), it's so clear that the person who put together the presentation is biased because none of the controversies of his favorite groups were included, and they have some BIG ones (bts' early misogynistic lyrics, racism and rm basically wanting to be a black man lol; shinee mocking other cultures, colorism, fatphobia, onew's sexual assault allegations...). pretty much all kpop groups have done a lot of things that have been deemed "problematic" and i understand not mentioning it because otherwise you'd be there all day, but at least be fair
I did enjoy this rundown of the history of Kpop but it did make me wonder how much research was done and I also took note of the clear bias. I am an old stan, I grew up listening to Kpop, but I have also done university projects on the topic of cultural diplomacy, cultural industries and cultural products which included the history and presentation of Kpop, while also having written passion projects on the history of Kpop, especially SM. I found that a lot of vital information was missing, and it didn’t focus enough on the actual developments within Kpop, rather just some of the iconic groups, and their achievements, which of course is also an important element. For example, in the BIGBANG section it was lacking information on how the group seriously impacted stan culture, they were the first group to have a unisex appeal, as well as one of the groups pioneering rap in idol groups, it is also recognized that GD designed the first light sticks when fans used to use balloons, raincoats and later glowing sticks, apart from this he is also recognized as the origin of Airport Fashion. Many of the most important groups were brushed over and made it seem as if there hadn’t been done thorough research on them, especially EXO (only spent 3 minutes on them excluding the song), SEVENTEEN (unmentioned) and SNSD. There were also a few points of misinformation, which were fair assumptions to have made, but nonetheless wrong. While I understand it is important to point out that the industry and groups are flawed, I found that it was mostly with groups disliked by the presenter and was focused on more compared to their impact on Kpop as a whole, which to me reads as a focus on presenting groups rather than the actual history of Kpop. So, to sum-up my opinion, there were good points and a decent choice of groups, yet I found multiple erroneous assumptions and mis- and lack of information. Overall lacking but a fine introduction to the music over time, with a heavy focus on contemporary groups. To finish off, this is not an attack on the presenter. Do not send hate towards them. This is merely my opinion based on my research and experience.
This is a great summarisation of what went wrong with this presentation. It is also notable that the speaker's inherent bias impacted many groups, like NCT. NCT, despite being mentioned as a 5 unit group, did not have mention of other units, especially since NCT DREAM and WAYV are quite impactful in KPOP as a whole, and instead gave ample lee-way for BTS to present the best songs. Girl's Generation got dust in reference to their overall impact, as did BIG BANG, which was a cultural pioneer as you mentioned and was mostly self made, with GD producing most songs. Quite an inaccurate and somewhat limited scope, due to the speaker especially.
@@sixeysemksthe speaker is an army and obviously clearly biased against groups like bigbang and nct for that specific reason. never met an army that was able to think objectively about kpop in any matter
@@lunali7209 I fully agree. ARMYs like to maintain rather limited music tastes, and tend to not venture out of a select few groups that do not satisfy the same sound, hence, the dislike for "experimental" music like NCTs, or more old-school like BIGBANG. It is a pity, because the clear difference in the thought put into which BTS songs vs other group's discographies to present was almost laughable
I understand he admits he doesn't know much about the genre prior to the later 2000s and isn't an expert, but I think he missed WAY too much throughout this..... In a broad sense, it's missing entire major GENRES within kpop (ballads from Kim Gun Mo onwards, hiphop from TigerJK/Dynamic Duo onwards, RNB from wheesung onwards, the rise of independent solo artists culminating in IU of the modern era, etc). In overviewing artists themselves, he completely wiffed on critical details on many of them. For example, for Seo Taiji, failing to mention the man's multi-decade solo career with one of the most tours done by a musician out of Korea, a highest-selling album for a year almost a decade post Taiji Boys with virtually zero promotions/marketing, his influence on multiple generations of new artists, etc. He also says he's a big fan of Epik High and then chooses one of their lesser known/arguably meh songs (subpar lyrically, thematically, production-wise, etc)...with a verse from NEITHER of the members of the group?
So, if I was presenting, I would’ve forgone over half of the facts/narration at the starter of each group. Doing so would’ve: 1. Made room for more groups. 2. Prevent Brad from having preconceived notions about the songs. A quick introduction of how many members and when they debuted followed by a fun fact would’ve sufficed. I understand kpop is not just about the music, but most people are here for the music and that’s it.
Yeah intro was so long. This was supposed to be music reaction. And what was the purpose of the controversies? Like at least give him a musical info about them.
kind of a mid recap of the history of kpop tbh. the person behind evidently has very superficial knowledge on kpop and how it ties in with korean culture and social environment so there wasn't anything insightful said about the phenomena even once. imo kpop is given the best representation only when the social/political context for everything is given (we don't need it with western music since we already understand the context). but unfortunately the person who made this clearly thought that the drama and controversies in kpop were more important. if it was made by someone nearly as knowledgeable about kpop as the person/people who made the TOP lore recap, it would've been a much more insightful experience.
That was such an unfair chance you gave to Stray kids by picking a title track that's, purposefully, inaccessible/noisy to most people who aren't fans, since that was the whole concept of the album I hope brad gives their music a real chance by listening to a full project :)
I thought the same thing!! I also thought it was weird that the person putting this list together didn't even include them (and other 4th gen bg like seventeen and txt) since they have contributed a lot to the history and expansion of Kpop as a genre - especially considering 4th gen. twas a bit disappointing :, )
I didn’t make it that far, I stopped watching after the disrespect shown to BIGBANG and the lies told about Seungri being found guilty on all sexual counts. As a VIP and a Stay and seeing how Brad laughed at G-Dragon’s iconic voice I couldn’t watch till the end knowing that if Stray Kids was on the list they wouldn’t be respected either. Based on your comment I guess I was right in my prediction, I don’t know what was shown but I’m glad I stopped watching. Unlike you, I hope Brad never reacts to SKZ and especially BIGBANG, there are plenty of other reactors out there with much bigger subscribers that took the time to really listen to their music and truly understand and enjoy it.
@@sylvielebrun1733 he listened to thunderous until I think maybe the second chorus (it could have been the first but i don’t want to look back) and then basically just skipped the song and said it was bad 🥲 and what annoyed me the most was there was no background even given for skz at all - no mentioning of how they are self made, written, and produced, which kinda bothered me bc it was just a continuation of there being a lack of information or lack of unbiased / true info :( and sadly I think I agree I feel like watching this video and the reactions that came with it kinda just made me sad lol it wasn’t that enjoyable - so I agree that there are better ppl with reactions to watch (at least for kpop) bc I feel like to fully understand a group and judge them, especially ones that have such diverse discographies, you have to listen to more than a single song. Anywho I’m glad you I wasn’t alone with these thoughts while watching this video, hope you have a good rest of your day / night!
I WILL NOT TOLERATE THE NCT SLANDER!! lol but for real, I know NCT's "noise music" isn't for everyone, but they do have some certified bangers (Cherry Bomb, Super Human, Baby don't stop, Boss, and a lot of smooth R&B ironically), and I do appreciate that they can be a little unpredictable and try some wacky stuff, it seems a lot of people (execs) are afraid to get out of their comfort zone nowadays, and this may be the reason a lot of kpop feels so westernized. And a lot of the groups shown here also have their wacky moments or phases, for example I think Bad Boy is not a defining track for Red Velvet, people who enjoy their discography know that while there are glorious R&B, there's also weirdness and some fun nonsense (see Rookie and Zimzalabim), so a bit unfair to judge NCT just based on that, just saying. I'm not mad, I just wish Brad could give them a chance one day lol (Edit: typo)
the presenter didn't research enough for this presentation. It might've been better for someone who has been around the Kpop scene awhile and not someone that started in 2020, so barely 3 years ago, who only knows recent groups... its fine if they just wanted to show him a few songs/try to get Brad into Kpop, but they weren't really informed enough to give a literal HISTORY of it. Its possible had they done proper research, but they haven't. They included groups that were more obscure, and left off actual influential groups that influenced Korean Youth/society... It really feels like they just googled a list of Kpop groups, picked random ones then grabbed info from their Wikipedia articles...
I don’t think I might ever get that into kpop as a genre. Not because the music is bad, I heard some, pretty good. But whenever I hear a fan talk about it, everything is important, the performances, live shows, music videos, interviews, they rarely talk about albums. That’s the only thing I care for, the album experience. And most idol groups aren’t known for albums, but their showmanship. Correct me if I’m wrong though of course. Just got this from discourse I see about kpop.
a lot of OLDER kpop is focused on full, cohesive albums. boa and shinee are both good sources for full albums. its more newer groups that are focused on just eps/singles and its more about the performance!
As a Kpop fan, I have to say that a you're right in saying that discourse doesn't focus enough on the album experience. However, that doesn't mean that this is something the genre is lacking. Just like its western counterpart, Kpop has albums that are whole and justify their runtime by delivering a great experience as well as albums that are incoherent or focus on having a few good singles. Older gen fans may claim that only older gen groups and idols gave good album experiences, but I find that newer groups can do just as well or badly as their older counterparts - on both full-length or mini (usually a bit longer than a conventional EP) albums. If you want some examples of a good album experiences, try Eyes Wide Open by Twice, Apocalypse: Save Us by Dreamcatcher, or Reality in Black by Mamamoo. If you're looking for examples of mini albums that still deliver a great experience, I'd recommend Reborn by PIXY, Fearless by LE SSERAFIM, Guilty Pleasure by Hwasa, or my personal favourite [12:00] by Loona. These examples are all from within the last 5 years because the more recent stuff is what I'm partial to but if you dive back you'll also find gems.
I wish I was here to help 😭😭 it would be good to go through each companies certain styles (e.g sm), self produced and how trends and different generations affected the sound of the music
Did it dirty by putting FB and Bang Bang Bang back to back like those two are the party anthem. Literal no thoughts head empty song. So many hits to use and they pick the same thing.
To say a language other than English sounds like gibberish is not “cringe”. It’s so incredibly bigoted it’s not funny. If he said this about Spanish would anyone be laughing? No. The guidelines for this channel say be respectful. What a joke.
And then in the comments he said I'm gay... of course I prefer boy groups" as if that should be obvious? Like the only reason he likes these groups (which frequently contain teenagers) is for sexual gratification? Disgusting stuff.
The person who made this presentation DOES NOT KNOW ANYTHING about GIRL GROUPS and its frustrating...like what!?? You are gay so you not listening to women music ?!?!!;;!:
@@screagleagle8138 who said controversial? Calm down. But someone more versed in the genre should have made the presentation not a bts fan who knew kpop since 2015. It's still weird though to listen only to one gender in kpop or any music genre, reminds me when straight men only care about girl groups, it shows a lack of interest in the music itself and more interest in other aspect
K-Pop? More like.... K-POOP AMIRIGHT LMAOOOOOO!! It was very interesting learning about a culture that's outside of America, and I really appreciate Bradley for having me on the stream, and I really appreciate Scregale for putting this all together for the community. I think it'll REALLY help the channel expand the audience more for the better :3
a nu-metal video could also reference this one by including the nu-metal album that seo taiji made at one point ?? it's obviously not relevant to nu-metal history but I just remembered that it exists and this links kpop lore to nu-metal lore
EXO is an amazing group, all the members are insanely talented, some of the best vocals in the industry. you should definitely check more of their songs, brad, their albums are great!
True its rare that you get a group that's so talented and has such a mysterious image that scares other idols in real life lol 😭 cause in reality they are introverts that just like sleeping and playing games together
I buy one, maybe two if there's different versions, of each BTS album. I definitely don't throw them out. They're on my shelf. Pride of place. Stan culture can be extreme, but let's remember that there are plenty of fans who aren't wasteful or overly obsessed. BTS' fan demographic in particular is older. We have more disposable income, but we're also planning for our futures and not going to drop $1,000 on buying multiple albums simply for the sake of getting a photo card of our favorite member. I've got a Roth IRA I'd much rather invest that money in. I can support BTS in other ways, like streams.
actually stoked for this video lmao. I am what the kids these days would call an old head when it comes to kpop. Saw EXO live in Chicago like 7yrs ago. Fun fact my bias from the original lineup is now in prison in China for being uhhhhh the Chinese Bill Cosby? Edit: I’m glad they broke into the American mainstream and it’s all love but old BTS / Bangtan was banger after banger. The stuff I’ve heard in recent years just feels generic and sterile compared to what they used to write and put out 🥲
I think some b-sides even post 2017 are nice but tittle tracks take all the attention+I like the jp songs for being soft and soothing but they aren't really popular as well (Film Out had cute lyrics imo)
How do you bring up the Bigbangs scandal but not other groups?? And you were wrong in some of your parts. Top didn’t leave because of marijuana. His marijuana scandal was in 2017!!! And no the members did not know what Seungri did. You’re chat also is so lame like what’s the point in lying about that?
As a fan of NCT, i can definitely respect Brad's opinion in that Kick It (and Sticker as well) is incredibly compressed and hard to listen to, for those unfamiliar with NCT's sound. What does hurt is Brad saying that all of them are a dime a dozen, which just simply isn't true. NCT has some fantastic vocalists, and they can be heard on any b-side or solo/unit project. Although I have to say, if Kick It is cause for such a strongly negative reaction I can certainly see not wanting to check out anything else in the (very expansive) NCT discography, and that's a shame because they have some great songs. Edit: also, Stray Kids was done incredibly dirty. For there to be so much praise for groups who produce their own music, and then ignore Stray Kids' hard work? And then to only play Thunderous while God's Menu, THE song of the 4th generation, is right there?? At first I felt neutral about this 'history of kpop', but now i see there's actually quite a bit of misinformation and blatant bias. It's fine to have a preference, but to deliberately ignore or exclude groups who've had a massive influence on the industry as a whole is shady at best.
did nct sooo dirty for no reason. Brad would've liked nct dream's sound, especially BUNGEE/ HELLO FUTURE, or even some more "out there" sounds like MY FIRST AND LAST and BOOM. Shame the speaker just managed to choose the two most controversial NCT 127 songs, knowing that 127 is notoriously hard to digest and experimental.
me 2. my first group ever, back in 2008. Never stopped since that. For me it would be 4 hours about TVXQ and praising Jaejoong and Junsu 🤣🤣 But yeah, it was great that they were even mentioned. New kpop stans can sometimes forget about those HUGE kpop groups from before 2018. Like, no one was even close to TVXQ till BTS in 2017, and that was almost 20 years after they debut. So yeah, huge group, huge history, huge impact.
@@IceJJFishArchive i'm so glad to hear that! if you want more recs, my favorite group of all time is f(x) their albums pink tape, red light and 4 walls are so good. also look into gdragon's solo stuff! EXO's discography is also fantastic.
borderline criminal that he didnt talk about f(x) more cause obviously it was more impactful (for many reasons) than many of the groups here... like he talks about exid but not f(x) like...
If people want to target kpop for ripping off black music, perhaps don’t be so transparent on your prejudice by pretending the whole modern music world isn’t USA centric and that the whole modern american music isn’t robbing from black music. Please.
Lmao this was fun. I have to say it always kills me when i hear kpop stans complain about kpop being westernized when it has pretty much always taken trends from the west and made pop music, just in Korean. Also regarding stan culture, yeah. The stupidity gets pretty intense, especially regarding stuff fans will cancel or critisize an idol over. I also noticed an odd trend of fans infantilizing or babying idols who are grown ass people.
“I was gonna play another blackpink song” Gave them such an L chance. You played one of their worst songs and left it at that, it very much shows that you don’t like them lmao. Replacing out blackpink for red velvet is fucking crazy
I feel like if brad DID do a listen to a more recent BTS album, Map of the Soul: 7 is pretty good at showcasing all the different genre/sounds BTS has done. Plus there's also solo works in there too. As for an older album/era, I'd say The Most Beautiful Moment in Life.
I mentioned it throughout the stream but you should check out "ODD EYE CIRCLE" (they are basically a LOONA sub unit) their album "Max & Match" is incredible and the production is very pleasing.
He just chose the most popular songs and specially for girl groups he chose the most mediocre songs(except red velvet and loona) its obvious he doesn't normally listen to female kpop Edit:and 2 blackpink songs and only 1 twice song? Lmao
the best kpop songs are by some of the smallest, least known groups tbh.. you'll never fully appreciate kpop until you dig a little deeper than just the mainstream songs by the most well known groups
@@lunali7209this may be true for a few groups but there are so many kpop releases where you can tell they're banking on the title track and all or most of the b-sides are obvious filler
@@sewerrat8096 yeah but i find groups from the big3 aka the "bigger more popular" groups to actually be the groups with better whole albums/bsides bc their company can afford spending a lot of money on a bside to make it good. in my experience its usually smaller groups (not all) who have bad bsides bc their company cant afford more than just a catchy title track 😭
not sure about that tbh. most of the lesser known groups (at least nowadays) sound absolutely the same unless they do something Completely different and unique, like onlyoneof or snuper
The national men's group of South Korea. They became the first artists in 12 years who managed to sell more than a million copies of the album. XOXO was named "Album of the Year" at the 2013 Mnet Asian Music Awards, making EXO the youngest male group ever to receive this award. They performed at the closing ceremony of the Universiade 2013 in Kazan. They performed at the opening ceremony of the 2014 Asian Games in Incheon. They sell out concert tickets in 0.2 seconds, which is a WORLD RECORD TO THIS DAY. They received the first Prime Minister's award at the 2017 Korean Popular Culture and Arts Awards for their contribution to Korean culture. They were included in the TOP-50 most popular male groups in the world of the last decade according to "24/7 Wall St" (EXO took the 10th place, becoming the only representative of Asia, indicators in Billboard, Spotify and Wikipedia were taken into account). They were included in the Guinness Book of Records as the group that received the largest number of daesans at the MAMA Award. They are the security ambassadors of Seoul. / EXO is my very first and only favorite band in the entire industry. It doesn't matter how many more years pass, EXO were, are and will be Kings of K-POP, Kings of Vocals, Legends and Discoverers of the 3rd generation. EXO, even after 11 years of career, are the most popular, sought-after and highly paid SM group. Yes, because they are their best band in the history of the company. EXO is the only band with such a variety of high-quality music, choreography and visual effects.
Baepsae is my favourite, fucking based. Also the History lesson brought on a lot of Kpop nostalgia, even though my time in the fandom wasn't that long in the grand scheme of things - the next thing just comes along so quickly.
Im glad you liked exo's growl. Fun fact: That song helped exo break the physical album sales drought in SK. I highly recommend diving deeper into their discography since they're well known for having such solid no-skip albums with great vocals, and differing styles. I'm saying this as a fan who only started liking them for the visuals and performance. But god, what made me stay was their music. They're just so good like that!!! And again, I'm saying this as someone who only liked rock music predominantly until I listened to them.
Some albums I personally like, including their solo stuff (in no particular order) 1) obsession 2) exist 3) Dont mess up my tempo 4) the war 5) KAI 6) City Lights
@@Bobamiruku right !!! i'm always blown away by the production of those songs,, they're so good. !!! thats why i'm hoping people who don't usually react to kpop finally listen to their discography, i'm curious to hear their thoughts and opinions !!
Agreed!!!!! I didn't see the stream so I'm not sure, but I would have LOVED to see his reaction to Tempo and Gravity. I may have to pay for a full album listen next time he has a donation stream....!
Hope we can get a video dedicated to a Red Velvet album some time in the future, they have some of the most interesting production in kpop in my opinion. ‘BAMBOLEO’ (off of ‘The ReVe Festival 2022 - Feel My Rhythm’ - EP) and ‘Body Talk’ (off of ‘Rookie - The 4th Mini Album’ -EP) are two of my all time favourite songs, and the ‘Perfect Velvet’ is one of my favourite albums in kpop. Definitely worth giving their discography a listen.
Stopped watching after he admitted he wouldnt include rv or fx, the pioneers of real discography in K-pop. Should've picked someone who didnt start listening to kpop through bts tbh.
Wait Brad liked Baepsae on Spotify? Oh that's a win, you finally heard BTS! Having watched your channel since you got popular with twenty one pilots I feel very happy to know that. Dark & Wild or O!RUL82? is BTS' best albums no arguments will persuade me.
this presentation was a little unfair to bp and snsd but I think it’s overall rlly informative and like gets the essence of K-pop and its industry. also I think kpop twitter has some of the funniest tweets + inside jokes I’ve ever seen, the dozen tweet is so crazy 😭😭😭
also I’m so glad screagle talked about how kpop literally has so much gay fanservice despite there only being like ONE fully out K-pop idol. like you would think this has changed by now but nope 😭😭😭
I kind of liked the video but at the same time I feel like there were a lot of mean comments from both parts and specially there was ALOT of miss information so next time please try to do this with someone who actually gives you the right information and try do be more polite.
id love to see a deep dive into red velvet or loona someday!! both of them have incredible discographies that could hardly be covered with just one song
Showing only Bigbang's title tracks like Fantastic Baby and Bang Bang Bang is so unrepresentative of their music, no Lies, Haru Haru, Blue, If You, Sober? Like if you were gonna do that, you might as well have used Ring Ding Dong and Lucifer for SHINee since it's their most viewed MVs and see how his reaction to those songs would have been, but then you put in Replay and a Jonghyung Solo? With that logic should have used BigBang's Only a Fool's Tears and Taeyang's solo Eyes, Nose, Lips.
as a kpop fan, I'm quite happy with this hehe. edit: wanna see Brad's reaction to SKZ as they are one of my favorites and so many people were mentioning them in the stream
@@eartheatingangel i can see it lmaao based on the surprise skz part, sounds like brad will hate a song like Thunderous. Maybe he should check their song like Any. Personally, it's skz best song lol
@@abitsourrrrsorry4885 If the selection is decided by distinctive moments in the history of the genre, I would personally suggest God’s Menu. Though I’m not a fan it admittedly solidified their impact in 4th generation culture and is undoubtedly one of their best songs. There’s a reason why it’s so popular 🤘
@@chensgold-om6lt Judging from his reaction to NCT it would likely be very similar. Even fans of the group seemed to agree 😅 It’s unfortunate. Luckily a single opinion does not define the value of their discography
Mention BIGBANG and watch the misinformed and threatened kpop fans start spreading straight up lies because BIGBANG has true staying power and they wanna try and prevent new fans from joining the fandom. Kids wanna call them irrelevant yet seem to focus on them more than their own faves.🙄
Like seriously, the chat pissed me off. They always hate on Bigbang and will cry tears of blood when their fav is treated badly once. Everyone works hard and deserves respect and stop judging people based on things you have HEARD.
It's actually insane how much disrespect they've gotten from the newer gen. This is so wild to me. It's like everything they ever did for the industry (which is more than any other group artistically speaking) is completely buried and forgotten because these newer fans have completely taken over the narrative with their half-baked knowledge. So sad honestly. Their own faves would still drool over the name of BIGBANG.
@@mohash21 actually, people talk a lot about BB, it's just that you don't like them taking all the skeletons they have from the closet. Not the same stuff. In fact, my faves are drooling like you say on SHINee and not on BB. Just face it, your faves did terrible stuff.
@@mrssherlockasy4236 lol ok... I have a strong feeling I can dismantle any of the 'TerriBle stuff' you can point out. It's very clear that they were completely misinformed about everything and what they talked about was totally inaccurate. But Just like you, I don't expect them to actually do some research and use their head because all their knowledge comes from newbie fans and their social media. My 'faves' already have all the validation they needed. They have nothing left to prove. They came, they conquered and they left with entire new generation of idols being inspired by them. Their last comeback got an All-Kill on charts with zero promotion and being a 17 year old group lmao. So yeah.... We're good. Despite the lies spewing from the other side.
I don’t know why I’m surprised that Brad is cool enough to do a 2-hour K-pop stream, but he earned some major brownie points. I’m a big K-pop fan and his reactions here were on point. He enjoyed the iconic tracks, the stuff that really matters. Sure, I Am the Best is an iconic song too, but no one is going to deny that it’s aged poorly for a new listener. I’d personally have gone with Clap My Hands but even though I think he’d have enjoyed it more, the production is also quite dated, to be fair. Anyway, cheers to the presenter who had the daunting task of choosing the songs and bands to feature. I think it was a fantastic balance, and you can’t cover everything.
Lol Shinee is a group, I've been really getting into lately. I love the songs they do that sounds like New Jack Swing and lately I've been obsessed with their song Good Evening.
Glad you enjoyed SHINee. Jonghyun is and will probably always by my favourite artist. His music slaps so hard, highly recommend checking out his other stuff.
FAQ because im a very important person
“some of these song choices were bad!” im aware, i didn’t want to show brad only music I thought he would like
“why didn’t you include x artist?” this stream was already over four hours long
“why didn’t you chose spring day for BTS?” i’ve shown brad spring day and he hated it
“why didn’t you chose haru haru for bigbang?” i probably should’ve
“why did you spend so much time discussing controversies in kpop?” kpop is a deeply flawed genre and culture and it’d be a great disservice to those who have been wronged by it to not include criticisms
“what headphones are you using?” airpod pros :sob:
you are ACTUALLY the most valuable brad army soldier, I salute you ✊
if you don't mind cables just get one of the cheap chifis like salnotes zero / wan'er brother 😂 thank me later
oh btw you really should just shown brad mr simple over sorry sorry
thank you for your service!!🫡 even though seventeen not being included broke my heart a little im so happy brad listened to loona 🥳
Don’t worry about people complaining what you’re doing is awesome. This and the brostep playlist have been great and the fact that you’re putting this much dedication and money into it shows how much you really care. Even though you put a lot of bs in the queue the Brad taste community and I appreciate all of it
This is my Lord of the Rings
me
your profile pics are staring at each other so intensely
@@neliabedeliayours too
😂😂
My roman empire
SHINEE GOT A SMILEY BALL NATURE IS HEALING
the positive response of replay from chat and brad made me so happy lol
WE MAKIN IT OUT OF THE NOONA NEOMU YEPPEO WITH THIS ONE 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
LETS GOOOO
Doing a history of kpop and purposfully leaving out f(x) is a huge L bruh .... They were literly ahead of their time, and were trailblazers 💀💀
Right and red velvet like what :/
No fr like wat
and like got7
mathematical function
49:07 girls' generation is actually a fitting name for the group since back then girl groups were still pretty much under the shadow of boy groups, and they were able to pave the way for other girl groups and women in the industry. gee was the first kpop music video to reach 100 million views here on youtube, and was recently ranked as the greatest song in kpop history by rolling stone. a funny fact about this song is that one of the group's member, taeyeon, cried before recording it because she hated the song so much 😭 but yeah, gee is without a question one of the most influential and important kpop songs ever
She would also cry before performances
But recently she reflected on how much she hated it and decided she doesn’t think it’s so bad anymore lol
the presenter was extremely biased towards certain groups, but its funny that brad still trashed their songs anyway lmao he's actually honest and doesn't care
nah bro this presenter is so bad... Like genuinely he did so many groups dirty. You should ask someone who actually listens to many groups and their whole discographies. This guy was just promoting the groups he likes. Man other groups also have good songs. This is probably the worst introduction someone can give to someone.
As someone who has been a fan of/listening to kpop for well over a decade....this was a trip to see 😵💫 sooo much misinformation and missing information about such crucial groups in the genre and the pronunciations were so.........oh boy. A fun watch though overall, and a good trip down memory lane !
Could you point out some of the misinformation?
@@GabrielAlves-nl2gf chen baekhyun and xiumin never terminated their contract or left exo, there are a bunch of videos that explain the seungri/jung joonyoung/jang jayeon situation way better than this guy
not every group can be included
@@user-luciddream this comment doesn't say about any group not being included? they're just saying that there's some misinformation -_-
Babyvox not being mentioned is some criminal stuff
Brad actually enjoying Red Velvet, Loona and Twice fills me with so much glee. Honestly a full Red Velvet stream would be perfect even if its my lesbian bias talking especially the Perfect Red Velvet that album I think he would love (its the same album with Bad Boy) since it has good pop stuff but also the second half especially a lot of "Velvet" songs which are more R&B focused which they do well.
Same
The perfect velvet is such a good 3rd gen album, I even put it on the same level as F(x)'s Pink Tape album. And that album is a masterpiece
Same!! I've been wanting to send in one of RV's songs in on a request stream for the longest time but never did (mostly because I could never choose what song) but I was so glad he liked them
I mean at the end of the day, groups like Red Velvet, Loona and Twice just make good music, regardless of the language barrier. Loona especially has some incredibly complex and sophisticated pop/r&b songs and also some really experimental genre mashing. We all know Red Velvet are the queens of kpop r&b and just make great albums (mostly). And twice are just refined pop perfection.
Perfect red is probably their best album!(it might be my queer bias as well but wtv!!)
I think Brad would really connect with the production side of Loona’s music. Most of their discography is just incredibly well done and is collectively some of the best music I’ve ever heard in general, be it western, global or everything in between.
You got an unspeakably bg biased person 😭
I can’t lie this was awful for GGs. A whole generation of female groups skipped. WG’s and SNSD’s impact were not thoroughly explained. BLACKPINK was relegated to “I just don’t like them” and Boombayah as their song pick? Twice section is too short. F(X), S.E.S, FinK.L Baby Vox, and IU not getting segments, but Brave Girls and Loona did.
i wouldnt complain about loona being there since their music production is actually awesome, but brave girls??? really??? also some of these songs choice are just.... yeah....
Not including F(x) was criminal.
As someone who only likes girl groups , never let bg fans make a list !!!! 😤
Also iz*one
Scregale knowing basically nothing about Girls Generation had me itching lol. Its ok, but I wish he was able to explain how legendary they are and the impact they had on the industry, culture and women. They're the blueprint for every girl group even now. I wouldv'e loved for him to show Brad Into the New World and how it became a protest song. Even the name of the group lol Brad I promise it's not cringey! The name has meaning , it's old language and the direct translation is "The era of maidens" and derives from an older korean song. Still a great presentation though, he did a great job!
I’m glad I saw this comment before watching because nothing makes me angry in kpop than snsd not getting the recognition they deserve. I don’t know if I can watch this now, but I’m still going to try
@@LaurenPebble I mean it's frustrating to watch but the rest of the video is well done. You can just skip that part or if you don't just remember the comments Brad makes are without context/ignorance. You'd think as a long time kpop fan he would know a little about snsd though lol
It's by a male BTS fan, what did you expect... D:
Sameee I was JUST wishing they were gonna play into the new world
YES! Into the new world or their self titled track are incredible. Also so many girl groups left out.... would've liked to see apink, kara, girls' day, f(x), orange caramel, or sistar
My gf loves K-pop and she opened my eyes that there is some genuinely good stuff that comes from the genre. It's great pop music ngl, better than western pop imo and I'm a metal/rock kinda guy. It's a genre that is definitely worth a look, I wrote it off as a gimmick at first but yeah it's still just a music genre with lows and highs, worth a dive. Other artists I can recommend: Henry, Boyfriend, Teen Top, Beast, Ateez (probably my favorite) and Drug Restaurant. These are only off the top of my head.
Beast have excellent tunes, great call out. At least their early stuff was pretty good. I haven’t kept up with their later albums as much. Strangely, Ateez haven’t grown on me yet. I think it’s because they don’t seem as melodic, more rap/drop focused.
Better than western pop? A ton of the most popular kpop music is literally dripping with western inspiration. I like k-pop but even I recognize that.
ateez is honestly my favorite kpop group. i saw them live and their performance was INSANE.
Isn't the vocalist of drug restaurant like a main perpetrator in the Burning Sun scandal?? I personally would stop listening to them
@@soloscape3 I like some of their songs but don't really listen to them, I didn't know about all that tho, will read up on it
this was a lost opportunity. Too much talk , so few song reactions and some really bad choices that didn't represented the eras at all. Worst part is that there was so much fixation at the scandals of some groups that it gave Brad some bad first impressions before he listened to a song, and he was less and less open to the songs as the time went on.
One of these on the entire history of Punk music would be really cool, dunno if anyone is interested in this other than me though.
Post punk would be more interesting I think. Punk varies so wildly, I think you gotta narrow it down. But who know or cares. Just make him do it.
Maaaaan... Punk in general would be insanely difficult and a long ass video. I'd watch the whole damn thing tho lol.
I think it would probably be more feasible to do specific punk subgenres at a time.
It'd be a journey from The Velvet Underground to 5 Seconds of Summer I guarantee that.
@@mocapcow2933 You're right, Post-Punk would be a better pick of a genre. Unfortunately, I cannot make him do it as I have no money, but if anyone not broke could do it than that would be really cool.
😊 It would be interesting . GDragon Crooked is inspiered by Punk
I loved seeing chat go absolutely mental when Eclipse came on. It was also so cool to see Brad enjoy it. Hopefully we can some more loona reactions but if that happens we gotta make sure brad gets the google drive folder.
That guy who made this presentation obviously hates some groups…
as we all do
As someone who kinda unbiased with kpop groups because I stan no one, this presentation is very biased to some groups. This was like a documentary of Asian culture by a normies western lmao
May as well have been the whitest dude you've ever seen going "So here's the samurais... let's jump to the ninjas... and here's where anime began."
although i dislike the groups that included their controversies (such as super junior), it's so clear that the person who put together the presentation is biased because none of the controversies of his favorite groups were included, and they have some BIG ones (bts' early misogynistic lyrics, racism and rm basically wanting to be a black man lol; shinee mocking other cultures, colorism, fatphobia, onew's sexual assault allegations...). pretty much all kpop groups have done a lot of things that have been deemed "problematic" and i understand not mentioning it because otherwise you'd be there all day, but at least be fair
let's be honest, the Burning Sun scandal had to be mentioned, it's the biggest scandal in all of Kpop, the other ones, yes there was a big bias
Loona and Red Velvet have incredible discographies
Red Velvet is mid and Loona good discography was til Jaden Jeong was the creative director
@@francodiaz14good thing some of the girls are reunited with Jaden. The recent OEC album was a return to form that I’ve been waiting for. 😊
@@francodiaz14 red velvet mid... bruh what are you smoking
@@user-ko8ow5ms5rgood title tracks, awful or bland b sides
@@francodiaz14if red velvet's discography is mid we can take 70% (maybe even more) of the entire kpop industry and throw in the trash.
I did enjoy this rundown of the history of Kpop but it did make me wonder how much research was done and I also took note of the clear bias. I am an old stan, I grew up listening to Kpop, but I have also done university projects on the topic of cultural diplomacy, cultural industries and cultural products which included the history and presentation of Kpop, while also having written passion projects on the history of Kpop, especially SM.
I found that a lot of vital information was missing, and it didn’t focus enough on the actual developments within Kpop, rather just some of the iconic groups, and their achievements, which of course is also an important element. For example, in the BIGBANG section it was lacking information on how the group seriously impacted stan culture, they were the first group to have a unisex appeal, as well as one of the groups pioneering rap in idol groups, it is also recognized that GD designed the first light sticks when fans used to use balloons, raincoats and later glowing sticks, apart from this he is also recognized as the origin of Airport Fashion.
Many of the most important groups were brushed over and made it seem as if there hadn’t been done thorough research on them, especially EXO (only spent 3 minutes on them excluding the song), SEVENTEEN (unmentioned) and SNSD. There were also a few points of misinformation, which were fair assumptions to have made, but nonetheless wrong.
While I understand it is important to point out that the industry and groups are flawed, I found that it was mostly with groups disliked by the presenter and was focused on more compared to their impact on Kpop as a whole, which to me reads as a focus on presenting groups rather than the actual history of Kpop.
So, to sum-up my opinion, there were good points and a decent choice of groups, yet I found multiple erroneous assumptions and mis- and lack of information. Overall lacking but a fine introduction to the music over time, with a heavy focus on contemporary groups.
To finish off, this is not an attack on the presenter. Do not send hate towards them. This is merely my opinion based on my research and experience.
This is a great summarisation of what went wrong with this presentation. It is also notable that the speaker's inherent bias impacted many groups, like NCT. NCT, despite being mentioned as a 5 unit group, did not have mention of other units, especially since NCT DREAM and WAYV are quite impactful in KPOP as a whole, and instead gave ample lee-way for BTS to present the best songs. Girl's Generation got dust in reference to their overall impact, as did BIG BANG, which was a cultural pioneer as you mentioned and was mostly self made, with GD producing most songs. Quite an inaccurate and somewhat limited scope, due to the speaker especially.
@@sixeysemksthe speaker is an army and obviously clearly biased against groups like bigbang and nct for that specific reason. never met an army that was able to think objectively about kpop in any matter
@@lunali7209 I fully agree. ARMYs like to maintain rather limited music tastes, and tend to not venture out of a select few groups that do not satisfy the same sound, hence, the dislike for "experimental" music like NCTs, or more old-school like BIGBANG. It is a pity, because the clear difference in the thought put into which BTS songs vs other group's discographies to present was almost laughable
Nah but choosing alcohol free for twice was a crime against humanity
lmao fr
that’s one of their best tts don’t even
I understand he admits he doesn't know much about the genre prior to the later 2000s and isn't an expert, but I think he missed WAY too much throughout this.....
In a broad sense, it's missing entire major GENRES within kpop (ballads from Kim Gun Mo onwards, hiphop from TigerJK/Dynamic Duo onwards, RNB from wheesung onwards, the rise of independent solo artists culminating in IU of the modern era, etc).
In overviewing artists themselves, he completely wiffed on critical details on many of them. For example, for Seo Taiji, failing to mention the man's multi-decade solo career with one of the most tours done by a musician out of Korea, a highest-selling album for a year almost a decade post Taiji Boys with virtually zero promotions/marketing, his influence on multiple generations of new artists, etc. He also says he's a big fan of Epik High and then chooses one of their lesser known/arguably meh songs (subpar lyrically, thematically, production-wise, etc)...with a verse from NEITHER of the members of the group?
The way he overlooked trot entirely, like Love Battery, which is renowed for its modern twist on classic trot and Korean pop music
So, if I was presenting, I would’ve forgone over half of the facts/narration at the starter of each group.
Doing so would’ve:
1. Made room for more groups.
2. Prevent Brad from having preconceived notions about the songs.
A quick introduction of how many members and when they debuted followed by a fun fact would’ve sufficed. I understand kpop is not just about the music, but most people are here for the music and that’s it.
Yeah intro was so long. This was supposed to be music reaction. And what was the purpose of the controversies? Like at least give him a musical info about them.
kind of a mid recap of the history of kpop tbh. the person behind evidently has very superficial knowledge on kpop and how it ties in with korean culture and social environment so there wasn't anything insightful said about the phenomena even once. imo kpop is given the best representation only when the social/political context for everything is given (we don't need it with western music since we already understand the context). but unfortunately the person who made this clearly thought that the drama and controversies in kpop were more important. if it was made by someone nearly as knowledgeable about kpop as the person/people who made the TOP lore recap, it would've been a much more insightful experience.
Jesus christ the Girl's Generation section was done disrespectfully
"they do blackface for some reason" like the entire industry isnt based on ripping off black music
this is very true 🥲 i probably should’ve made it a bigger point, thanks for commenting this
@@screagleagle8138 its a very broken industry. the video was interesting, i appreciate the opportunity to learn 🙏
Did the blacks created the term I don't think so...
@@ilhamsahin3295Music today leans mainly on blues and jazz influence, both of which is black music.
Hehe
That was such an unfair chance you gave to Stray kids by picking a title track that's, purposefully, inaccessible/noisy to most people who aren't fans, since that was the whole concept of the album
I hope brad gives their music a real chance by listening to a full project :)
I thought the same thing!! I also thought it was weird that the person putting this list together didn't even include them (and other 4th gen bg like seventeen and txt) since they have contributed a lot to the history and expansion of Kpop as a genre - especially considering 4th gen. twas a bit disappointing :, )
I didn’t make it that far, I stopped watching after the disrespect shown to BIGBANG and the lies told about Seungri being found guilty on all sexual counts. As a VIP and a Stay and seeing how Brad laughed at G-Dragon’s iconic voice I couldn’t watch till the end knowing that if Stray Kids was on the list they wouldn’t be respected either. Based on your comment I guess I was right in my prediction, I don’t know what was shown but I’m glad I stopped watching. Unlike you, I hope Brad never reacts to SKZ and especially BIGBANG, there are plenty of other reactors out there with much bigger subscribers that took the time to really listen to their music and truly understand and enjoy it.
@@sylvielebrun1733 he listened to thunderous until I think maybe the second chorus (it could have been the first but i don’t want to look back) and then basically just skipped the song and said it was bad 🥲 and what annoyed me the most was there was no background even given for skz at all - no mentioning of how they are self made, written, and produced, which kinda bothered me bc it was just a continuation of there being a lack of information or lack of unbiased / true info :( and sadly I think I agree I feel like watching this video and the reactions that came with it kinda just made me sad lol it wasn’t that enjoyable - so I agree that there are better ppl with reactions to watch (at least for kpop) bc I feel like to fully understand a group and judge them, especially ones that have such diverse discographies, you have to listen to more than a single song. Anywho I’m glad you I wasn’t alone with these thoughts while watching this video, hope you have a good rest of your day / night!
fr, as a huge fan maybe i’m just being biased but i felt personally attacked😭 no artist has been more mentally soothing to me than stray kids
@@Nat-gz3wmikr :/
I WILL NOT TOLERATE THE NCT SLANDER!! lol but for real, I know NCT's "noise music" isn't for everyone, but they do have some certified bangers (Cherry Bomb, Super Human, Baby don't stop, Boss, and a lot of smooth R&B ironically), and I do appreciate that they can be a little unpredictable and try some wacky stuff, it seems a lot of people (execs) are afraid to get out of their comfort zone nowadays, and this may be the reason a lot of kpop feels so westernized. And a lot of the groups shown here also have their wacky moments or phases, for example I think Bad Boy is not a defining track for Red Velvet, people who enjoy their discography know that while there are glorious R&B, there's also weirdness and some fun nonsense (see Rookie and Zimzalabim), so a bit unfair to judge NCT just based on that, just saying. I'm not mad, I just wish Brad could give them a chance one day lol (Edit: typo)
Literally the song choices were so bad 😭
@@ploopydiper like how you finna pick "sticker" as your starter pack knowing damn well 😭😭
As someone who’s been listening to K-pop for a decade this presentation was trash.
I'm saying. The song choices are actuary terrible
true
Facts
the presenter didn't research enough for this presentation. It might've been better for someone who has been around the Kpop scene awhile and not someone that started in 2020, so barely 3 years ago, who only knows recent groups... its fine if they just wanted to show him a few songs/try to get Brad into Kpop, but they weren't really informed enough to give a literal HISTORY of it. Its possible had they done proper research, but they haven't. They included groups that were more obscure, and left off actual influential groups that influenced Korean Youth/society... It really feels like they just googled a list of Kpop groups, picked random ones then grabbed info from their Wikipedia articles...
I don’t think I might ever get that into kpop as a genre. Not because the music is bad, I heard some, pretty good. But whenever I hear a fan talk about it, everything is important, the performances, live shows, music videos, interviews, they rarely talk about albums. That’s the only thing I care for, the album experience. And most idol groups aren’t known for albums, but their showmanship.
Correct me if I’m wrong though of course. Just got this from discourse I see about kpop.
You would be correct
Of course there’s some exceptions like IU
She is very well known for her albums and probably the best to ever do it!
@@brandonmichaud8047 will listen to her probably today. Got a big backlog, but might as well try out more kpop.
a lot of OLDER kpop is focused on full, cohesive albums. boa and shinee are both good sources for full albums. its more newer groups that are focused on just eps/singles and its more about the performance!
As a Kpop fan, I have to say that a you're right in saying that discourse doesn't focus enough on the album experience. However, that doesn't mean that this is something the genre is lacking. Just like its western counterpart, Kpop has albums that are whole and justify their runtime by delivering a great experience as well as albums that are incoherent or focus on having a few good singles. Older gen fans may claim that only older gen groups and idols gave good album experiences, but I find that newer groups can do just as well or badly as their older counterparts - on both full-length or mini (usually a bit longer than a conventional EP) albums.
If you want some examples of a good album experiences, try Eyes Wide Open by Twice, Apocalypse: Save Us by Dreamcatcher, or Reality in Black by Mamamoo. If you're looking for examples of mini albums that still deliver a great experience, I'd recommend Reborn by PIXY, Fearless by LE SSERAFIM, Guilty Pleasure by Hwasa, or my personal favourite [12:00] by Loona. These examples are all from within the last 5 years because the more recent stuff is what I'm partial to but if you dive back you'll also find gems.
+1 on give dreamcatcher a go
I wish I was here to help 😭😭 it would be good to go through each companies certain styles (e.g sm), self produced and how trends and different generations affected the sound of the music
they did bigbang dirty by not including haru haru and lies which are their iconic bops
Did it dirty by putting FB and Bang Bang Bang back to back like those two are the party anthem. Literal no thoughts head empty song. So many hits to use and they pick the same thing.
this aint it, so many iconic groups are not here and the guy doing the presentation is too biased and annoying
Dropped the ball with the girls generation section by only showing one song and that song being gee instead of MrMr or the boys or Genie
Gee is iconic for kpop as a whole but not as iconic for gg as a group . Such a shame
To say a language other than English sounds like gibberish is not “cringe”. It’s so incredibly bigoted it’s not funny. If he said this about Spanish would anyone be laughing? No. The guidelines for this channel say be respectful. What a joke.
And then in the comments he said I'm gay... of course I prefer boy groups" as if that should be obvious? Like the only reason he likes these groups (which frequently contain teenagers) is for sexual gratification? Disgusting stuff.
The person who made this presentation DOES NOT KNOW ANYTHING about GIRL GROUPS and its frustrating...like what!?? You are gay so you not listening to women music ?!?!!;;!:
i mean yeah im a gay man i prefer boy groups….. that shouldn’t be controversial
@@screagleagle8138 who said controversial? Calm down. But someone more versed in the genre should have made the presentation not a bts fan who knew kpop since 2015. It's still weird though to listen only to one gender in kpop or any music genre, reminds me when straight men only care about girl groups, it shows a lack of interest in the music itself and more interest in other aspect
@@screagleagle8138 but you right about BigBang the comments are delulu
@@kp-oe4hz im the only mod in brads community with any experience in kpop so thats why he chose me, sorry
@@screagleagle8138 ohhh, You are the only inside man. Nevermind then it was good it's not that serious it's kpop
K-Pop? More like.... K-POOP AMIRIGHT LMAOOOOOO!!
It was very interesting learning about a culture that's outside of America, and I really appreciate Bradley for having me on the stream, and I really appreciate Scregale for putting this all together for the community. I think it'll REALLY help the channel expand the audience more for the better :3
that joke was so hailerriuoizs 😂
Edit: hilarious
@@RadishShifu halerius
Now do the entire history of nu-metal. C'mon, you have to.
oh I would watch the hell out of that video
a nu-metal video could also reference this one by including the nu-metal album that seo taiji made at one point ?? it's obviously not relevant to nu-metal history but I just remembered that it exists and this links kpop lore to nu-metal lore
thats something id genuinely love to watch
I'd love that so much
brad will be a nctzen, trust me, he just have to listen to sticker +30 times
why is twice's part so short
EXO is an amazing group, all the members are insanely talented, some of the best vocals in the industry. you should definitely check more of their songs, brad, their albums are great!
True its rare that you get a group that's so talented and has such a mysterious image that scares other idols in real life lol 😭 cause in reality they are introverts that just like sleeping and playing games together
I buy one, maybe two if there's different versions, of each BTS album. I definitely don't throw them out. They're on my shelf. Pride of place. Stan culture can be extreme, but let's remember that there are plenty of fans who aren't wasteful or overly obsessed. BTS' fan demographic in particular is older. We have more disposable income, but we're also planning for our futures and not going to drop $1,000 on buying multiple albums simply for the sake of getting a photo card of our favorite member. I've got a Roth IRA I'd much rather invest that money in. I can support BTS in other ways, like streams.
actually stoked for this video lmao. I am what the kids these days would call an old head when it comes to kpop. Saw EXO live in Chicago like 7yrs ago. Fun fact my bias from the original lineup is now in prison in China for being uhhhhh the Chinese Bill Cosby?
Edit: I’m glad they broke into the American mainstream and it’s all love but old BTS / Bangtan was banger after banger. The stuff I’ve heard in recent years just feels generic and sterile compared to what they used to write and put out 🥲
I think some b-sides even post 2017 are nice but tittle tracks take all the attention+I like the jp songs for being soft and soothing but they aren't really popular as well (Film Out had cute lyrics imo)
You should def check out their new releases !! theyre good !!!!!
How do you bring up the Bigbangs scandal but not other groups?? And you were wrong in some of your parts. Top didn’t leave because of marijuana. His marijuana scandal was in 2017!!! And no the members did not know what Seungri did. You’re chat also is so lame like what’s the point in lying about that?
That guy is obviously biased
it was so big, it broke into mainstream media it would have been uncanny not to mention it. It's part of Kpop as a whole I believe
As a fan of NCT, i can definitely respect Brad's opinion in that Kick It (and Sticker as well) is incredibly compressed and hard to listen to, for those unfamiliar with NCT's sound. What does hurt is Brad saying that all of them are a dime a dozen, which just simply isn't true. NCT has some fantastic vocalists, and they can be heard on any b-side or solo/unit project. Although I have to say, if Kick It is cause for such a strongly negative reaction I can certainly see not wanting to check out anything else in the (very expansive) NCT discography, and that's a shame because they have some great songs.
Edit: also, Stray Kids was done incredibly dirty. For there to be so much praise for groups who produce their own music, and then ignore Stray Kids' hard work? And then to only play Thunderous while God's Menu, THE song of the 4th generation, is right there??
At first I felt neutral about this 'history of kpop', but now i see there's actually quite a bit of misinformation and blatant bias. It's fine to have a preference, but to deliberately ignore or exclude groups who've had a massive influence on the industry as a whole is shady at best.
i completely agree, especially with the nct part
did nct sooo dirty for no reason. Brad would've liked nct dream's sound, especially BUNGEE/ HELLO FUTURE, or even some more "out there" sounds like MY FIRST AND LAST and BOOM. Shame the speaker just managed to choose the two most controversial NCT 127 songs, knowing that 127 is notoriously hard to digest and experimental.
what can we expect from an army
Brad turns out Korean is very easy to read!
Only 24 letters
Very well organized
You could do it for fun as a bit on this channel
As a TVXQ! fan, wew I’m glad he likes it lmao. They’re not really talked about as much but when comes to vocals, they’re the top.
me 2. my first group ever, back in 2008. Never stopped since that. For me it would be 4 hours about TVXQ and praising Jaejoong and Junsu 🤣🤣 But yeah, it was great that they were even mentioned. New kpop stans can sometimes forget about those HUGE kpop groups from before 2018. Like, no one was even close to TVXQ till BTS in 2017, and that was almost 20 years after they debut. So yeah, huge group, huge history, huge impact.
@@G4BZME Samee + Tohoshinki music 🤣
Can you recommend me some songs by them?
Sameee
man your informant was not great...at all
A section for new jeans AND fifty fifty but nothing for fx? 🤔 also this guys pronunciation of names is so so bad lmao
Brad you should definitely listen to The Perfect Red Velvet by Red Velvet!! (the album bad boy is in) is such an amazing album from start to end...
yes that album is so so good!!
I’ve been meaning to listen to Koop so I listened to this here album mentioned and I loved it ❤
@@IceJJFishArchive i'm so glad to hear that! if you want more recs, my favorite group of all time is f(x) their albums pink tape, red light and 4 walls are so good. also look into gdragon's solo stuff! EXO's discography is also fantastic.
someone NEEDS to show brad red velvet
23:32 Brad ending fairy
😭
borderline criminal that he didnt talk about f(x) more cause obviously it was more impactful (for many reasons) than many of the groups here... like he talks about exid but not f(x) like...
If people want to target kpop for ripping off black music, perhaps don’t be so transparent on your prejudice by pretending the whole modern music world isn’t USA centric and that the whole modern american music isn’t robbing from black music. Please.
Lmao this was fun.
I have to say it always kills me when i hear kpop stans complain about kpop being westernized when it has pretty much always taken trends from the west and made pop music, just in Korean.
Also regarding stan culture, yeah. The stupidity gets pretty intense, especially regarding stuff fans will cancel or critisize an idol over. I also noticed an odd trend of fans infantilizing or babying idols who are grown ass people.
“I was gonna play another blackpink song” Gave them such an L chance. You played one of their worst songs and left it at that, it very much shows that you don’t like them lmao. Replacing out blackpink for red velvet is fucking crazy
Love that brad pushed for another blackpink song from where I’m at in the video, because god damn there was no fair chance 💀
aahh I do wish there was f(x) and Red Velvet in there
They’re my favourite girl groups, was a little disappointed they weren’t really discussed. 😭
I feel like if brad DID do a listen to a more recent BTS album, Map of the Soul: 7 is pretty good at showcasing all the different genre/sounds BTS has done. Plus there's also solo works in there too. As for an older album/era, I'd say The Most Beautiful Moment in Life.
I mentioned it throughout the stream but you should check out "ODD EYE CIRCLE" (they are basically a LOONA sub unit) their album "Max & Match" is incredible and the production is very pleasing.
sticker was not the best song to show to him as an introduction to nct omg 😭
He just chose the most popular songs and specially for girl groups he chose the most mediocre songs(except red velvet and loona) its obvious he doesn't normally listen to female kpop
Edit:and 2 blackpink songs and only 1 twice song? Lmao
im a gay man i like dudes more sorry 😞
@@screagleagle8138 "what does that have to do with anything bi**h???!!!!! " yvie oddly
@@Toot5222 literally whats wrong with not listening to female kpop lmaoooo you gonna put me in jail?
@@screagleagle8138 probation for no kpop knowledge
@@screagleagle8138 also being butthurt over criticism jail
the best kpop songs are by some of the smallest, least known groups tbh.. you'll never fully appreciate kpop until you dig a little deeper than just the mainstream songs by the most well known groups
That's very true
no .. the best songs u find after actually listening to a groups whole discography. mostly bsides > title tracks in kpop
@@lunali7209this may be true for a few groups but there are so many kpop releases where you can tell they're banking on the title track and all or most of the b-sides are obvious filler
@@sewerrat8096 yeah but i find groups from the big3 aka the "bigger more popular" groups to actually be the groups with better whole albums/bsides bc their company can afford spending a lot of money on a bside to make it good. in my experience its usually smaller groups (not all) who have bad bsides bc their company cant afford more than just a catchy title track 😭
not sure about that tbh. most of the lesser known groups (at least nowadays) sound absolutely the same unless they do something Completely different and unique, like onlyoneof or snuper
The national men's group of South Korea. They became the first artists in 12 years who managed to sell more than a million copies of the album. XOXO was named "Album of the Year" at the 2013 Mnet Asian Music Awards, making EXO the youngest male group ever to receive this award. They performed at the closing ceremony of the Universiade 2013 in Kazan. They performed at the opening ceremony of the 2014 Asian Games in Incheon. They sell out concert tickets in 0.2 seconds, which is a WORLD RECORD TO THIS DAY. They received the first Prime Minister's award at the 2017 Korean Popular Culture and Arts Awards for their contribution to Korean culture. They were included in the TOP-50 most popular male groups in the world of the last decade according to "24/7 Wall St" (EXO took the 10th place, becoming the only representative of Asia, indicators in Billboard, Spotify and Wikipedia were taken into account). They were included in the Guinness Book of Records as the group that received the largest number of daesans at the MAMA Award. They are the security ambassadors of Seoul.
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EXO is my very first and only favorite band in the entire industry. It doesn't matter how many more years pass, EXO were, are and will be Kings of K-POP, Kings of Vocals, Legends and Discoverers of the 3rd generation. EXO, even after 11 years of career, are the most popular, sought-after and highly paid SM group. Yes, because they are their best band in the history of the company. EXO is the only band with such a variety of high-quality music, choreography and visual effects.
Baepsae is my favourite, fucking based.
Also the History lesson brought on a lot of Kpop nostalgia, even though my time in the fandom wasn't that long in the grand scheme of things - the next thing just comes along so quickly.
Now do a vocaloid history
Literally why did thwy choose Kick it to show nct127 😭😭😭LIKE SUPERHUMAN, LIMITLESS?!?!
Im glad you liked exo's growl. Fun fact: That song helped exo break the physical album sales drought in SK.
I highly recommend diving deeper into their discography since they're well known for having such solid no-skip albums with great vocals, and differing styles. I'm saying this as a fan who only started liking them for the visuals and performance. But god, what made me stay was their music. They're just so good like that!!! And again, I'm saying this as someone who only liked rock music predominantly until I listened to them.
Some albums I personally like, including their solo stuff (in no particular order)
1) obsession
2) exist
3) Dont mess up my tempo
4) the war
5) KAI
6) City Lights
their b-sides is so good!! honestly sometimes the rest of the album is better than the title track itself IMO
@@Bobamiruku right !!! i'm always blown away by the production of those songs,, they're so good. !!! thats why i'm hoping people who don't usually react to kpop finally listen to their discography, i'm curious to hear their thoughts and opinions !!
Agreed!!!!! I didn't see the stream so I'm not sure, but I would have LOVED to see his reaction to Tempo and Gravity. I may have to pay for a full album listen next time he has a donation stream....!
EXTREMELY biased presentation on kpop but i did enjoy watching brad vibe to growl, exo kings
Hope we can get a video dedicated to a Red Velvet album some time in the future, they have some of the most interesting production in kpop in my opinion. ‘BAMBOLEO’ (off of ‘The ReVe Festival 2022 - Feel My Rhythm’ - EP) and ‘Body Talk’ (off of ‘Rookie - The 4th Mini Album’ -EP) are two of my all time favourite songs, and the ‘Perfect Velvet’ is one of my favourite albums in kpop. Definitely worth giving their discography a listen.
How are you gunna present taemin and not use move??? 😭😭😭😭😭 Where's f(x)??? Im sad. Good introduction regardless, though. Gotta start somewhere
He did NCT so dirty 😥
No ikon sadge
Brad liked Baepsae and Run, is it at least possible a reaction to The most beautiful moment in life pt 2 or some other old BTS album?😭
The snsd disrespect tsk tsk also more rv and aespa talk needed!!!
As u said u know nothing about BIGBANG and yet u judge them
That's kinda his whole channel
Stopped watching after he admitted he wouldnt include rv or fx, the pioneers of real discography in K-pop. Should've picked someone who didnt start listening to kpop through bts tbh.
His entire motivation for listening to kpop, according to his own comments, is that he's only interested in boys. Which is... telling.
NCT specially 127 is my favorite kpop group by far but seeing Brad hate them so much is still so funny to me😭
It's funny because it's one of the few boygroups who have actually good music
Wait Brad liked Baepsae on Spotify? Oh that's a win, you finally heard BTS! Having watched your channel since you got popular with twenty one pilots I feel very happy to know that. Dark & Wild or O!RUL82? is BTS' best albums no arguments will persuade me.
People have send in BTS before on his streams
I did send in tear for example and if i remember right he did like it and gave it 8/10
@@erikkling4791yes I’ve requested it a few times and saw he liked 134340, ddeang, arson, and then added Daechwita to his liked songs
real
You know for the entire history of K-pop a 2 hour video seems….. small?
It was actually 4 hrs, guess he cut a good chunk out. But true, it needs like at least another stream
instead of promoting the groups bro just made them look bad. He was only singing praises of the groups he like.
this presentation was a little unfair to bp and snsd but I think it’s overall rlly informative and like gets the essence of K-pop and its industry. also I think kpop twitter has some of the funniest tweets + inside jokes I’ve ever seen, the dozen tweet is so crazy 😭😭😭
also I’m so glad screagle talked about how kpop literally has so much gay fanservice despite there only being like ONE fully out K-pop idol. like you would think this has changed by now but nope 😭😭😭
There was a lot of misinformation and old or not updated info.🙃
brad if u ever feel like listening to kpop again i BEG u to listen to ateez's outlaw album its so good
choosing kick it over superhuman or limitless is CRAZY
To cut him some slack he’s not an nctzen and kick it is unfortunately their most famous track
@@KittyPikaChuunfortunately?? kick it is a bop lol
no txt is wild
I kind of liked the video but at the same time I feel like there were a lot of mean comments from both parts and specially there was ALOT of miss information so next time please try to do this with someone who actually gives you the right information and try do be more polite.
i hope you explore more of kpop and react more to kpop after this. it might be very toxic but it's really fun to explore
I SAW JUNG-KOOK DANCING ON THE FLOOOOOOOOR!!!!
id love to see a deep dive into red velvet or loona someday!! both of them have incredible discographies that could hardly be covered with just one song
So glad more of these “history of” streams are happening. So interesting!!! ❤
Showing only Bigbang's title tracks like Fantastic Baby and Bang Bang Bang is so unrepresentative of their music, no Lies, Haru Haru, Blue, If You, Sober? Like if you were gonna do that, you might as well have used Ring Ding Dong and Lucifer for SHINee since it's their most viewed MVs and see how his reaction to those songs would have been, but then you put in Replay and a Jonghyung Solo? With that logic should have used BigBang's Only a Fool's Tears and Taeyang's solo Eyes, Nose, Lips.
he clearly had an agenda with the song choices
should've showed fancy for twice
as a kpop fan, I'm quite happy with this hehe. edit: wanna see Brad's reaction to SKZ as they are one of my favorites and so many people were mentioning them in the stream
There was this collective agreement in the stream that he would probably hate them 😭
@@eartheatingangel i can see it lmaao based on the surprise skz part, sounds like brad will hate a song like Thunderous. Maybe he should check their song like Any. Personally, it's skz best song lol
@@eartheatingangel still, I'd like to see his opinions lol, not everyone will like everything
@@abitsourrrrsorry4885 If the selection is decided by distinctive moments in the history of the genre, I would personally suggest God’s Menu. Though I’m not a fan it admittedly solidified their impact in 4th generation culture and is undoubtedly one of their best songs. There’s a reason why it’s so popular 🤘
@@chensgold-om6lt Judging from his reaction to NCT it would likely be very similar. Even fans of the group seemed to agree 😅 It’s unfortunate. Luckily a single opinion does not define the value of their discography
Mention BIGBANG and watch the misinformed and threatened kpop fans start spreading straight up lies because BIGBANG has true staying power and they wanna try and prevent new fans from joining the fandom. Kids wanna call them irrelevant yet seem to focus on them more than their own faves.🙄
Like seriously, the chat pissed me off. They always hate on Bigbang and will cry tears of blood when their fav is treated badly once. Everyone works hard and deserves respect and stop judging people based on things you have HEARD.
It's actually insane how much disrespect they've gotten from the newer gen. This is so wild to me. It's like everything they ever did for the industry (which is more than any other group artistically speaking) is completely buried and forgotten because these newer fans have completely taken over the narrative with their half-baked knowledge. So sad honestly.
Their own faves would still drool over the name of BIGBANG.
@@mohash21 well..i hope after this Bigbang will make song exclusively for us V.I.Ps🤣
@@mohash21 actually, people talk a lot about BB, it's just that you don't like them taking all the skeletons they have from the closet. Not the same stuff.
In fact, my faves are drooling like you say on SHINee and not on BB. Just face it, your faves did terrible stuff.
@@mrssherlockasy4236 lol ok... I have a strong feeling I can dismantle any of the 'TerriBle stuff' you can point out.
It's very clear that they were completely misinformed about everything and what they talked about was totally inaccurate. But Just like you, I don't expect them to actually do some research and use their head because all their knowledge comes from newbie fans and their social media.
My 'faves' already have all the validation they needed. They have nothing left to prove. They came, they conquered and they left with entire new generation of idols being inspired by them. Their last comeback got an All-Kill on charts with zero promotion and being a 17 year old group lmao. So yeah.... We're good. Despite the lies spewing from the other side.
So much misinformation about BIGBANG seriously.
Ppl always trying to discredit them cuz they dont know better
The disrespect to BIGBANG is insane lmao. Can't believe BANG BANG BANG was hated so wildly.
I don’t know why I’m surprised that Brad is cool enough to do a 2-hour K-pop stream, but he earned some major brownie points. I’m a big K-pop fan and his reactions here were on point. He enjoyed the iconic tracks, the stuff that really matters. Sure, I Am the Best is an iconic song too, but no one is going to deny that it’s aged poorly for a new listener. I’d personally have gone with Clap My Hands but even though I think he’d have enjoyed it more, the production is also quite dated, to be fair.
Anyway, cheers to the presenter who had the daunting task of choosing the songs and bands to feature. I think it was a fantastic balance, and you can’t cover everything.
Lol Shinee is a group, I've been really getting into lately. I love the songs they do that sounds like New Jack Swing and lately I've been obsessed with their song Good Evening.
Glad you enjoyed SHINee. Jonghyun is and will probably always by my favourite artist. His music slaps so hard, highly recommend checking out his other stuff.