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7 Times Paul Contradicted Jesus
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- Опубликовано: 24 июл 2023
- Was Paul a messenger sent from Christ or one of the false prophets Jesus warned against? In this video, I discuss some contradictions between the words of Jesus and the writings of Paul to see if they compliment or contradict one another.
Please keep in mind that all everything I say here is my subjective opinion, and is intended to deconstruct fundamentalist/evangelical/conservative Christian ideologies from an ex christian perspective
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Every time that I have been in a deep discussion with a Christian, I noted that when they liked what God said, they quote him. When they do not like what God said, they quote Jesus. When they do not like what Jesus said, they quote Paul. When I point this out, the discussion is often over.
it all just rolls downhill!
I never thought of it but that is the truth
Ha. NICE.
Or they say you are taking those verses they don't like out if context
Agreed!
I tried to point out to a pastor how Paul was teaching opposite to Jesus and the response I got says it all…. This pastor didn’t address any of the points I made but got angry and said, quote, “How can you speak against him, he died for us”. I replied, “I’m speaking about Paul not Jesus”. He replied, “I know and you’re speaking against him”.
So that in itself says everything to me. Paul has taken the place of Jesus for this pastor and he’s not alone.
Please do more videos on Paul, the church needs to wake up. Thank you for your good works.
Think about this: If Jesus came to enact Jewish law and of the prophets as he told his 12 disciples why would Paul get rid of them?! You mean to tell me Jesus misspoke….or perhaps Paul never met Jesus and is a fraud.
I have no problem with disregarding Paul and remaining a Christian. I basically consider Paul a false prophet that primes us to identify other false prophets and bad pastors. There are some heresies that not even Paul would support that many pastors or denominations do. A key example are those that deny the bodily resurrection.
They do this with Mary too
1- Christ Physically Blinded Paul.. it wasn’t just a vision. Paul had physical Scales on his eyes blinding him.
2- Galatians 2:20 is talking about OUR SIN is completely forgiven through the crucitfition and only through JESUS did this happen… The Galatian Church had false teachers telling them Faith in Christ is not enough…
3- “Paul is teaching” “Paul is building Churches” .. Yes!
Mathew 23 8-10 he’s talking about the PHARISEES 😭 He’s telling them not to call the Jewish Leadership these names.
Jesus sent his Disciples City to City to teach and build his church.
4- Mathew 17:21-23 - Jesus is talking about Judgement day. When you stand infront of him and he will cast you away because Works WILL NOT ALONE get you into heaven.
5- ROMANS: 10:13 - Paul is saying you must believe in JESUS the Lord…
Yes you will be saved… But you can’t continue to love your sin or you will be cast into hell as you quoted in Mathew 17
You’re contradicting your own Theology without realizing it.
6- Romans 9 - Paul is taking about the Jews.. he is heartbroken they refuse to accept the messiah. He is saying “if yall keep messing around God he will let you live in your ways and his mercy will be gone”
This is throughout the entire Bible just like Jesus standing there with Abraham Genesis 19:24 .. Jesus called to the father in heaven to destroy the sinning city. Mercy was GONE
7- Mathew 5-7… Of course you’ll be shown mercy! Do you really think a ACTIVE SHOOTER killing people decides not to kill one person showing mercy then they are given Mercy by God? Cmon now
Everything she said is a Lie and made to confuse from what Paul and Jesus actually meant when they said it.
It’s very sad
@@3rdmardiv31 Interesting you say physical scales fell off his eyes. Did you know, when a snake sheds its skin of scales, it becomes very vulnerable throughout it for a few reasons, one of these is temporary blindness, until the scales on there eyes are off.
It’s sad that if the church just mainly focused on Christ, many of the current problems plaguing the church would be fixed instantly.
Agree
Paul preached independent of the Church in Jerusalem. When representatives from Peter and James encountered these groups controversy arose. The Jerusalem group created no documents , so when the Romans destroyed Jerusalem only Paul’s groups and writings survived. Thus modern Christians are mostly followers of Paul
The Gospel message survived.
@@danielvargas9100 I find the gospel message different from the Paul doctrine
@@glennlewman4186 because they ARE different. Jesus preached the kingdom of God to Israel. Paul preached the gospel of grace to gentiles.
Gospel means good news. Yea Jesus brought good news Paul did not. But if you look at it from zoomed wayyyy out. Paul wrote and believed how he did because of his life and experiences. Like so many
@@0UTmyMIND-DEVINE what you said is not true… here’s what Paul said from his own mouth.. 1 Corinthians 15 For what I RECEIVED (From Christ) I PASSED ON to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures.. (That’s the good news)
What has always bothered me is that Jesus gave the keys to Peter - the Rock. And yet, we have very few of Peter's words in the modern Bible, but a ton of Paul's 'teachings' who didn't even know Jesus. IMHO, Christianity should be called Paulism because most Christians do not even follow Jesus' teachings. I would love a deep-dive into Paul!
I'm learning (mostly from Bart Ehrman) that the Christian religion that we have today is really based more on Paul than Jesus.
THIS!!! A thousand times, this👆! I had started to question the current understanding of the Bible due to other reasons, but when I started realizing that the Council of Nicea prioritized Paul's letters over including more about Jesus himself, I lost all hope that whatever might have been interpreted since could be truly divinely inspired. A God that "so loved the world" wouldn't want his message taught by a stranger who had visions over those who had direct experience with Jesus.
@@lisalivesay9084 And all the other books that they decided weren't important. Maccabees, The Gospel Of Thomas, Jubilees, etc.
@@johntiggleman4686Maccabee’s made it into the Catholic bible.
I think it may depend on the particular Christian sect with enough variation within each. The Christianity I adhere to sides more with Jesus in terms of inclusivity while I see Paul as a divider. After all, "Who's your neighbor?"
The Bible makes a lot more sense when you look at it as just a collection of religious writings, instead of trying to harmonize it as a collection of writings from the same perfect mind.
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It's pretty complicated. Throughout it's colorful history, the stories in, and order thereof, within the bible have subtly morphed and moved, in an organic fashion, with the winds of religious and political forces.
At the heart of it all though, the god thing is all BS.
Even if you could call the bible evidence, it’s poor. If the bible is egregiously faulty then the main character’s existence is likely fantasy. If the existence of Yahweh is a fiction then the god man Jesus cannot stand. Faith based on the contents of the bible is worthless for the following reasons…
There is real historical evidence of John the Baptist, but not of the greater Jesus. There is historical evidence of Apollonius of Tyana, who allegedly ascended to heaven, similar to Jesus, but there is no extra biblical evidence of Jesus during his lifetime. There is an historical record of Jesus Ben Pandera but, no Jesus the Galilean outside of the bible. Nothing. There’s Jesus ben Ananias, a rude peasant, who went around Jerusalem in 66CE prophesying its fall in 70CE; he’s recorded in documents outside the bible, but not the biblical Jesus. His alleged disciples never wrote anything they were uneducated peasants. Contemporaries never recorded his miracles nor his troublesome nature. The bible account says he was widely known and a divisive figure that the Romans never recorded. Neither did the Jews.
There were a number of people with the name Jesus, exhibiting Jesus behaviours, many have been recorded; but, not the Jesus of the bible. Was he a fiction? Indeed, you don’t require any actual person to have actually existed for a “reality” to grow from nothing. King Arthur and Robin Hood, along with William Tell, and others, come to mind. Was the biblical Jesus based on a composite of these other Jesus’s with reference to the Old Testament, plagiarised to elevate these people to one divine god.
There’s no evidence that all the first born were killed either in Egypt nor by Herod. I think the Egyptians would have recorded such a calamity and the calamities of the plagues, but nothing. Was it all made up?
The first line of the bible is clearly incorrect. The Earth was formed 9.8 billion years after the heavens. How did the creator get that wrong? And, the rest of the creation is wrong. It’s as if an ancient ignorant tribe wrote it all by themselves, no god to help.
There are no waters above the firmament, for a start. Heaven isn’t up there either, we’ve been there. The tribes of the Middle East wouldn’t have known oceans would be frozen but for the heat of the sun. Yet water filled the oceans and outer space, all with no sun. The light that made up the day was created before the sun. The ancients had no concept it was the sun that caused day and night. The moon isn’t a light. It’s fiction by an ignorant tribe with no access to a god creator.
Adam was made from dirt by magic and he, this god, forgot about Eve, an afterthought. so not an all knowing and wise god then?
Snakes and donkeys talk, nonsense fiction, right up there with Harry Potter, though JK Rowling was clearly a better writer with fewer continuity errors.
This god set up Eve by placing this magic apple within her reach. Then punished humanity thereafter. What a vicious god, if not a fictional one.
Nonsense fiction, by an ignorant ancient people writing about their mythology, their nation’s origins, steeped in the mists of the past, just the same as the Greek, Persian and Babylonian cultures write about their make believe gods who were equally fervently worshipped. Inanna, the dying and rising goddess was such an example. But many more dying and rising gods in the lexicon of ancient myths. Virgin births were pretty common too.
Adam and Eve’s children (as Eve was a clone of Adam) and grandchildren (as Cain, Able and Seth only had Eve to produce offspring or with their unknown sisters) could only have been produced by incest, then double incest, according to the biblical account. Clearly god didn’t know that the inbreeding of the biblical account would lead to genetic problems. None of it true, nothing a creator god would have penned. It was a fiction by a Jewish ancient people.
The Exodus apparently didn’t happen according to all evidence, acknowledged by the Jewish archaeologists who have tried to find it. The Egyptians never wrote of their army being swallowed by the sea. Mosses may never existed.
There is a massive amount of genocide in the bible by a god who failed to get the locals to behave. Genocide because the Israelites needed a land to make home. If a creator of the universe and humans could have just thought a new land, a new island, south of Cyprus, it would have appeared. Easy for a god, not so for an ancient tribe to pull off? Then, this god could have told these others how to behave and punished individuals, if that’s what was needed. But no, he went straight to mass murder. What?
And, the greatest god in the universe was defeated by iron chariots: Judges1:19. That is so ridiculous, such a puny god. Or, is it because the story was a creation of a tribe that had no concept of future technologies or tactics to defeat these new Iron Age chariots? I’m sure that a human Napoleon type tactician could have done better than the all wise, all powerful fictitious god of the universe.
Genesis 19 tells us of Lot being raped by this daughters. And yet this god is moral? He could have changed the course of their predicament, found him a younger wife or servant to sleep with, if a god. More incest.
The Jewish religion was at its heart, a blood sacrifice barbaric religion.
The books that were supposedly written by Mosses consist of a linguistic style that didn’t exist at the time of his “life”. It’s a fictitious narrative, written by the Jews to give their new nation an historical legitimacy, and unify them, in the midst of other powerful cultures in the Middle East. Didn’t help much though, they were constantly being invaded and subjugated by more powerful “gods” of other warring nations.
Even Yahweh acknowledged there were other gods. Remember the Ten Commandments tablets that were conveniently broken and then without fuss, lost. An all powerful creator of the universe who missed the opportunity to create the tablets out of an advanced technology, such as, I don’t know, Titanium? Is that because the Jews didn’t know about such a thing and so had no understanding of the future? The forging of such a technology would have cemented the truth of their god. Broken disappeared stone tablets: clearly, no god involved. Convenient.
Noah and his flood occurred when the Egyptians where going about their cultural and religious practices that continued afterwards; and, their religion was not replaced by the flood family’s immediate ancestors, fanning out from the ark. The Pharaohs and their gods continued unabated. No Yahweh? More incest?
The Chinese culture and writing developed along a continuum and they too were never taken the religion of Yahweh from the Middle East, by Noah’s relatives.
And, the ancient Britons and Australians failed to notice they were meant to be dead.
The New Testament, if it is read, critically, is inconsistent and evolves over time.
Indeed, the gospels were not written for decades after the death of this Jesus, whose birth and death are still questionable and no date can be asserted with clarity.
There was no census when Herod was alive, that story was made up after the event to allow the Nazarene to be born in the town of David. Nazareth was not a town in the first century and was only “discovered“ when Constantine’s mother, Helena, went looking for it. The gospel writers mistook the word Nazarene for a town. And there are many problems with the census and the way it is told. Because it was written as fact over one hundred years after the supposed birth of this Jesus. More fiction?
And, boulders weren’t placed in front of tombs until about 50 years after his death, was he a fiction based on one of many rabbis around at the time?
And, the crucified were left to rot on the cross/pole on which they were hung as a warning to insurrectionists? No empty tomb, it’s a fiction to turn a myth into a “fact”. To turn a dead man or a fictional man into god.
Pilate was, in real history, recorded history, a truly nasty contemptuous man, he would never have allowed the process of crucifixion as a warning to have been undermined. And, the alleged trial is a tale of the blood cult of scapegoating. Even Barabbus was a literary device representing scapegoating, suggesting it never occurred. Barabbus means, son of the teacher, or son of the father. The gospel writers where representing the two characters as essentially the same, one became the goat sacrifice. And, the twist was that the Jews shouted to let the murderer go, allowing the blame for Jesus’s death to be placed on the Jews and not the imperial Romans. It was very much a political narrative because the Jews and Romans where essentially at war, the destruction of the Temple in 70AD/CE, and this new sect/cult needed to distinguish themselves from the Jewish troublemakers, and the ongoing violence of the time.
Paul never knew Jesus and only depicted him as a spiritual vision. He knew nothing of the man and nothing of his life or his teachings. More evidence that the Chrestos (anointed) was mythical?
The first time the gospels were mentioned was in 180AD/CE by Irenaeus. Indeed, a very prominent Christian, Theophilus, said that he came to believe in Jesus from reading the Jewish Scriptures or, Torah. No mention of the gospels, no quoting of anything Jesus allegedly said. Best date for the gospels is circa, 170-182AD/CE. The myth of the god man Jesus was created over many years. But, Mark was first written, not until at least 70AD/CE, say Christian scholars but, as above, likely much later.
No record of the star of Bethlehem, of the graves emptying, or the sky darkening. It’s fiction.
Theists may need to believe in this lie. Still, it’s a lie.
Theists have the bible read to them. Atheists read the bible themselves.
Who knew a god of truth would be so contradicting.
The Father isint BS at all.. The book we are talking about for sure is
FYI: I just found your channel yesterday. And I am all over it. I have not commented so much in such a short time, since I came across your channel. It resonates with me so well. So, I have been stalking your videos and shorts like crazy. Thanks for them and sharing. It is so important for women in particular to question religion and all its forms.
2 Peter 3:14-18
Final Exhortation and Doxology
14 Therefore, beloved, while you are waiting for these things, strive to be found by him at peace, without spot or blemish; 15 and regard the patience of our Lord as salvation. So also our beloved brother Paul wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, 16 speaking of this as he does in all his letters. There are some things in them hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other scriptures. 17 You therefore, beloved, since you are forewarned, beware that you are not carried away with the error of the lawless and lose your own stability. 18 But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be the glory both now and to the day of eternity. Amen.
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She don’t understand the Bible that’s why she calls it contradiction
You’re getting deceived by this woman.
@@sifayahala6190The bible has many errors, contradictions and lies. She (like many others) point them out. The bible is not 100% true
Apostle Peter lauded brother Paul's brilliance and cautioned us against deception and error through wickedness in 2 Peter 3: 14-18, "Therefore, beloved, looking forward to these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, without spot and blameless;
and consider that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation, as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you,
as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures.
You therefore, beloved, since you know this beforehand, beware lest you also fall from your own steadfastness, being led away with the error of the wicked;
but grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To Him be the glory both now and forever. Amen".
I love how whenever Paul discusses Jesus’ teachings, he ONLY quotes hallucinations that he attributes to being Jesus. He never quotes Jesus directly, nor anyone who knew him.
Very interesting, it's like I need to read the Bible in a totally different way, like what does Jesus actually say and what comes from people like Paul.
1 Corinthians 15:3-11 Paul is quoting the original disciples.
@@phun1901 the OP clearly states *whenever Paul discusses Jesus’ teachings* ; the passage you reference is only a recap of Jesus death and resurrection and exhortation to believe that Jesus died for our sin. No direct or indirect mention of Jesus’ actual teachings.
“3For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance a : that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, 5and that he appeared to Cephas, b and then to the Twelve. 6After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers and sisters at the same time, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep. 7Then he appeared to James, then to all the apostles, 8and last of all he appeared to me also, as to one abnormally born.
9For I am the least of the apostles and do not even deserve to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God. 10But by the grace of God I am what I am, and his grace to me was not without effect. No, I worked harder than all of them-yet not I, but the grace of God that was with me. 11Whether, then, it is I or they, this is what we preach, and this is what you believed.”
@teijaflink2226 yu think yu can understand Saint PAUL...
Saint Peter tells us..that is very hard!!
Read 2 PETER 3: 15-16
@@mwola Funny, sure seems like Jesus said there are no “saints”, no instructors, we’re all siblings
I do find it sketchy that the person who was "loudest" in spreading the message about Jesus was the apostle (?) who never actually met him.
Paul just wrote the most. Peter, John, and James were all at least as instrumental.
He drowned out the ones who did. Peter and James were very active in trying to continue the church Jesus built. Paul hijacked it and turned into something completely different.
Yes, Paul, “doth protest too much.”
@@Pushing_Pixels Yeah it went from a religious from the teachings of Jesus about salvation being though peace and love and doing good to salvation being about believing JC was god and would save you. Paul raped the teaching of Jesus and made it his own religion.
Pushing_Pixels - What did Paul teach that you think conflicted with St. Peter, James, or any of the Apostles?
Thank you for sharing this as it's an eye opener.
She don’t understand the Bible that’s why she calls it contradiction
2 Peter 3:16
15 And count the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, 16 as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures.
However, Kristi < i still like most of what you say. Paul had problems and would disagree with the main authority of the established church leaders, James and Peter. I also believe the bible shows Paul saying things about the Apostles that didn't ever happen or were a lie. How do we know? because in Acts and writings of Peter and others, their story CONTRADICTS Paul's story of what happened when he met and argued with Peter and James.
Jesus and Paul were in perfect unity. The reason why their teachings are different is because Jesus taught to Jews, Paul taught Gentiles. Jesus spoke to crows, Paul wrote to churches. Jesus addressed human issues, Paul addressed church conflict. Please read 2 Peter 3:15-16
@dinyhotmail Couldn't find the message you mention. Can you please post it again?
Paul and Jesus taught the same. Their teaching wasn't different
He openly admits to lying in order to get people to believe. Please read Roman's 3. He also misquoted Isiah and Jetemiah completely changing the meaning of their words. He was a pagan fraud
@@chrisanok9283 yes they are. For starters Jesus said Peter would be the Rick upon which his church was built. Never mentioned a Paul that went on to be the foundation of the Roman Catholic church.
@@DigitalDuelist Paul or Peter are not tge founders of any church. It's Jesus only. Secondly. If Paul was a deceiver. WHy would he blatantly tell everyone?? What man looking to deceive the people puts his real ideas out there for the people?? Paul wasn't saying he deceived anybody.
Romans 3 records no lie of Paul. If you truly knew Jesus and his gospel, the you would understand Paul and Jesus taught the same
The irony is that Paul said the law was abolished and following it was bondage but then he added a bunch of laws. Exactly like the Pharisees.
Well stated.
The Law means law of Moses, not all laws. Also, the Pharisees did not make up laws.
He was, indeed, a pharasee.
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No, that was the Sadducees.
Yup! My thoughts exactly.
Kristi, don’t concern yourself with the hater’s. Truth is not what they appreciate. Keep doing what you do!
Think you Kristi, your information is very important and informative.
Some important things to note:
I mistakenly attributed "faith without works is dead" to paul, but that was actually James! A kind follower in the comments pointed this out. So I wanted to correct that.
Also! many scholars believe 1&2 Timothy were not written by Paul, though *many* churches do believe Paul authored them. I side with the scholarly consensus that it was written by someone else- however many churches would agree that whoever wrote it was writing within the tradition of Paul's teachings. Either way, I'm attempting to work within the hypothetical notion that the gospels are accurate portrayals of the words of Jesus and that the letters attributed to Paul by the church were, in fact, written by Paul. I felt I made my approach clear in the beginning but perhaps I could have better clarified as many in the comments seem confused about my approach.
In my next video on Paul, I'll step outside of the hypothetical approach and examine him through a historical lens. And I'll be sure to better clarify when I'm approaching these topics within the hypothetical framework of church teachings.
the fact that you're willing to admit your wrong is very noble
There are 2 thing we can be certain about with the Epistle of James. 1, they were some of the very first writing of what would end up being Christianity. 2, The only writing that we can be almost certain were written in real time.
Paul and James agree that faith without works is no faith at all.
You just cannot be saved by your works since they are like filthy rags to God.
You no longer need to labour in vain, and feel undervalued, or overlooked.
Your faith in Christ will make you righteous.
His burden is light as He has gone before you and is victorious.
You can find rest for your soul in Jesus.
Has anyone noticed that the dead are rising?
I think it's hilarious that you are spiritually blind and can't see what's right in front of you. Do you understand what a corona actually is?
I see a female counselor. I prefer it. I was telling a guy I work with. He said "make sure you see a man, because it's not biblical for a man to be instructed by a woman." I looked at him like he was crazy . He was straight up serious. The view towards women in Christianity has always been an issue for me. Among several other things. I love your videos. Thank you!
Your instincts were correct. He is crazy.
Women can help in some things, counseling a man is not one of them. Men are the light of God, our wives should be the glory of us and we be the glory of Christ just as Christ is the glory of the Father
Just come out and say women are valued less than men in Christian ideology. Disgusting how some men can only feel good about themselves if they put women down.
@@D_DubzUnraveled What kind of counseling do you think OP was talking about and what kind is prohibited in the bible? Because I’m pretty sure the bible never talks about mental health therapy.
What kind of counselor we talking?
The contradiction is there because Paul is the apostle to the gentiles writing in the dispensation of Grace.
Very talented commentary. Well illuminated. Bless you.
She don’t understand the Bible that’s why she calls it contradiction
I too find Paul's writing apauling.
*rimshot*
LOL!
Wow
LOVE YOUR CHANNEL!!! 52 year old former Pentecostal here. Great content.
Happy you're here! :)
@@jezebelvibesI’m happy you’re here. You have more courage than I do. So much of what the evangelical churches teach is similar to what the Roman Catholic Church teaches. Hell, anti abortion, anti birth control, sexism, homophobia, transphobia are some of the things evangelical churches and the Catholic Church have in common. I’m sure there are many others. An angry sky daddy comes to mind, too.
You cannot out psychologize the Bible for God not to throw you into hell for all eternity. In other words, you cannot come up with a good enough excuse here and now, so you will not be able to on judgment day. If you say you did not want to be born, God is going to say you should’ve been born again, that means become a Christian so that’s not gonna work. And there are no other excuses try to think of one. So now you know for the first time in your life, that the Bible is smarter than you and it is a steel trap, smarter than all of mankind, What should you do then? So at least investigate and look to see that these things are true, because right now you just learned the Bible is smarter than you, and you will be accountable for your life on judgment day before God!
Prophecy, the Bible is 27% prophecy, that’s future history written in advance. God‘s really sticking his neck out to get it cut off if he’s wrong, but he hasn’t been wrong about the thousands of prophecies that were fulfilled, so he’ll be right about the end of the world prophecies as well and you’ll have no excuse on judgment day for not looking for truth!
Caveat: you cannot look for God in times of chaos says Isaiah 45:19, so you better do it now. In other words,You’ll be too worried about your own survival when chaos hits, than your eternal destiny!
Statistic probability of 40 writers writing the Bible with zero margin of deviation, proves God wrote the Bible through the 40 writers!
God authored the Bible!
DNA does not auto encrypt, the code writer is outside of the code of the 3300000,000,000 lines of computer code in the human genome of our DNA! So who wrote the code to such sophistication?
1,000,000 seconds is 12 days, 1,000,000,000 seconds is 32 years! That’s the difference between 1 million and 1 billion!
One person’s DNA could fill the Grand Canyon up to 50 times full of books. John 21:25 “I suppose everything Jesus did, the world wouldn’t have enough room for the books telling of it.“ this verse would be fulfilled!
Psalm 139:16 “in my members you have written many books“!
Psalm 139 is about the human body!
@@loisprew8820Yes, sky daddy is ALWAYS angry. I always wondered why you don’t see all of the fruits of the spirit in him that he requires of us: Love, Joy, Peace, Longsuffering, Gentleness, Goodness, Faith, Meekness, Temperance. He certainly lacks joy and peace.
@@dinard38 he lacks all the other traits, too.
I'm new to this and I'm reading Acts for the first time and something felt off about Paul, so I came looking to see if other people thought so and it's quite a rabbit hole.
I would love to hear your version of the gospel if you think Paul preached a false gospel. What must we do to be saved? How is a person made righteous? How does one inherit eternal life?
I felt the same way but with his epistles as well. Thank you. God bless.
The new testament contradicts the old testament and each testament contradicts itself. I believe in God because of divine intervention beyond coincidence but the Bible is a mess
@@BingoNamo-gb8pz What is off to you about paul?
@@kellymarquis4489 what do u find off with Paul's epistles?
Interesting! I've never seen a take like this and it's quite fascinating.
😂😂that sounded sarcastic
@@tevitavibose6539 I'm not sure where you got sarcasm from.
She don’t understand the Bible that’s why she calls it contradiction
@@sifayahala6190 No, it's because it's contradictory.
2 Peter 3:16
15 And count the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, 16 as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures.
I wonder if there are any conspiracy theories that Paul was a con man. Like, he was out persecuting Christians, and he found some that were enjoying financial and social benefits and decided he wanted a piece of the action, and he knew that an emotional conversion story would be compelling. It would explain why he seemed more interested in molding the church to the needs of patriarchy rather than the actual teachings of Jesus.
There are a lot of people that assume paul was a con man of sorts.
Paul defended his right to make money preaching the gospel and even seemed to lie to some of his churches about receiving offerings and gifts that he admitted to receiving to other churches. I'll do a deep dive sometime soon and talk about this more in depth! You're definitely on to something there!
There was a book accusing Paul of being an opportunist who wanted to run his own religion.
A lot of what he wrote is consistent with that.
The only evidence that he was even persecuting them is his own claim. I'm not saying he was a conman, but we certainly don't have any real evidence he wasn't.
I'd buy that except according to The Bible Paul was eventually beheaded for professing The Christian Faith However I never really liked The Apostle Paul because his teachings have gotten Hundreds of Billions of Christians senselessly killed thruout History.
@@thing1thing2themediamaniac43 "according to the bible." If he was a charlatan, he was professing his con, so that doesn't actually mean anything, even if he actually was executed. If you want to suggest he wouldn't "die for a lie," you need to show that he was both executed and that he was given an option.
He also could have just been nuts. 🤷♂️
Thank you for sharing, let's clarify.....Several places in the Bible speak of being crucified with Christ or having died with Christ: for example, Colossians 2:20; 3:3; and 2 Timothy 2:11. An extended discussion on the subject is found in Romans 6:3-14. Since no believer was literally crucified with Christ, the phrase crucified with Christ is symbolic for a spiritual truth. When you reject the Holy Spirit it's hard for you to understand what God is trying to reveal to you when you're reading scripture. I will be praying that he mends your heart and that you see his word and truth through a different lens 🙏🏾❤
Perfect.
Very well done.
Plain English without unnecessary drama. I felt that I was having a conversation with a thorough and thoughtful neighbor. Professional and relatable at the same time.
Yup!
Thank you for comparing Paul to to Christ’s message and showing how they differ.
This really put some things in perspective for me .
With one exception, these so-called "contradictions" and also the accusations against Paul could be easily refuted by any 1st year seminary student using basic bible references.
1st, Paul's testimony about his encounter with Christ on the road to Damascus had eyewitnesses which remained available to corroborate the story ie, those who accompanied him on the road and also Ananias who Christ sent to heal his blindness and give him further instructions. I'll also point out that when Ananias expressed reservations about going to Paul, Christ used the Greek word "ekloge" about Paul's selection, which means "divinely chosen" - and it's the only time the word appears in the New Testament. Paul's ministry and writings indeed have all the earmarks of God's hand - they're so comprehensive that nothing but his epistles are needed to know and understand everything else within the bible. Even the gospels merely testify about the birth, life, death, and resurrection of Christ but Paul answers the 'so what' question, instructs believers about every aspect of living the Christian life, and he was also used as the fulcrum to make the transition away from the old covenant's symbolic rituals to the new testament covenant of grace and faith in Christ alone. Further, Peter also bears witness to Paul's authenticity by equating his writings with the rest of the bible in 2Pet3:16 - "There are some things in Paul's epistles that are difficult to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist and misconstrue to their own utter destruction, just as they do with the rest of the Scriptures."
2nd, the claim that "Jesus never prophesied there would be a Paul or someone like him come on the scene." is also untrue. Actually, He did in Mt23:34 - "... take notice: I am sending you prophets and wise men, some of them you will kill, even crucify, and some you will flog in your synagogues and pursue and persecute from town to town..." - which is exactly how they treated Paul.
3rd, Christ was using hyperbole when He said following Him requires hating your own family - He was merely emphasizing that it requires a deep commitment. She'll probably also accuse Him in a later video of advocating self-mutilation for saying "If your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out..." These are shallow, baseless criticisms that barely merit a response.
4th, when Christ says not to refer to anyone as rabbi (teacher), He was simply addressing the undue status at the time which was placed on the designation thru the pride and arrogance of the Scribes and Pharisees. Jesus always emphasized servant leadership among His disciples as in Mt20:25 "... the rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their great men hold them in subjection Not so shall it be among you; but whoever wishes to be great among you must be your servant...," There's nothing wrong with being a teacher or referring to someone as a teacher (the office of Teacher is even listed in Eph4:11 as a Gift of the Spirit), the issue is having a biblical attitude towards teaching others as opposed to a wordly, Pharisaical view.
5th, Paul saying in Rom10:13 "Everyone who calls on the Name of the Lord will be saved" doesn't contradict what Christ says in Mt7:21-23 that "not everyone who says "Lord, Lord will enter the Kingdom of God" Christ is simply pointing out that not all professions of faith are genuine - which Paul agrees with in several places such as Gal2:4 "....because of false brethren who had been secretly smuggled in..." and 1Jn2:19 says "They went out from our number, but they did not belong to us..." and James2:20 that "faith without works is dead." Christ, Paul, James and John all emphasize that genuine professioms of faith will be accompanied by doing God's will, not merely a superficial confession. BTW, the "elect" isn't referring to the Jews, it's a term used about all those who have made a profession of faith in Christ (Jews or Gentiles) which has been tested and proven to be genuine (see 1Pet1:6-7 about faith tested by fire).
6th, in Gal2:20 Paul isn't "equating himself with Christ" by saying it's no longer he who lives but Christ lives in him. He's simply expressing his complete surrender to God and referencing the spiritual mystery he speaks of in Col1:25-27 - "I became a minister in accordance with the divine stewardship which was entrusted to me... The mystery of which was hidden for ages and generations but is now revealed to His holy people, to whom God was pleased to make known how great for the Gentiles are the riches of the glory of this mystery, which is Christ WITHIN and among you, the Hope of glory." Through their faith and surrender to Him, Christ actually dwells within all true believers.
Lastly, Paul actually had a very high regard for women and as I'll explain below, any misunderstanding about this fact is based on a glaring translation error. First, his high regard is expressed in Gal3:28 where he says "There is now neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is NOT MALE AND FEMALE FOR YOU ARE ALL ONE IN CHRIST Paul taught that Christ's sacrifice leveled the playing field across cultural, socio-economic, and gender distinctions. Further, in Rom16:1 Paul commends Phoebe, a deaconess, and exhorts the church in Rome to accept and support her ministry there. He also expresses a high regard in Rom16:7 for Junia, a female apostle who was thrown into prison along with him. Second, the two verses quoted from Paul to justify subjugating and silencing women in the church (1Tim2:11-15 and 1Cor14:33-35) both have flagrant translation errors involving the Greek word 'gune' (pronounced goo-nay) which can mean 1)a woman of any age, 2)a virgin, 3)a widow, 4)a married woman (a wife), or 5)a betrothed woman. The same Greek word is translated "woman" 129 times and "wife" 92 times in the bible and the context of the verse determines the meaning. The context of the 1Tim2 and 1Cor14 verses indicates that "wives" not "women" are being referred to. For instance, vs35 in 1Cor14 says "they should ask their own husbands at home.." and 1Tim1:13 says "For Adam was first formed, then Eve; and it was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman (his wife) who was deceived and fell into transgression." The context is clearly speaking about marriage and wives are being referred to, not women in general - the biblical "head" of a wife is her husband but the Head of a single woman is Christ alone. Paul's exhortation simply warns that despite their liberty in Christ, wives should be careful not to take authority over their own husbands or speak out from under their authority in the church, NOT that no woman should ever be placed in authority or must remain silent and submissive to all other men in the church - that's a perverted rendering which contradicts Paul's other epistles and the rest of the bible as well. For instance, it's inconsistent with what Paul stated earlier in 1Cor, that women should pray or prophesy with a head covering (ch11 vs 5) which is inconsistent if he actually said in ch14 that they must always remain silent. In short, the only limitation Paul placed on women is regarding wives - that they not teach or take authority over their own husbands or speak out from under their authority in the church - they're otherwise free to engage in any leadership or ministry role that men can assume,
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Epilogue: No one should follow this woman to a 7-11 store, much less risk their eternal destiny on her claims about the bible - she's biased,, biblically illiterate, and willfully blind.
You refuted nothing
@@Bunyourdesires you're the one that refuted nothing
@@joegame4576 your God was circumcised and never ate pork but Paul comes along and says you can do anything 😂
@@Bunyourdesires jesus was a jew. I’m not.
@@joegame4576 so your God knows pork is bad and abstained from it while you gentiles eat it and cherish it 😂😂 wow
Paul told people not to get married, not because he was against marriage but because he was expecting the end times any day. He thought his followers should focus on that and not be distracted by earthly things.
1 Cor. 9:5 Do we not have a right to take along a sister as a wife, even as the rest of the apostles and the brothers of the Lord and Cephas?
sounds kinda gnostic
1 , 3 , 5 and 7 are too solid to not question even as a christian
I’ve always thought Paul was a huge narcissist, even when I was a Christian. I see him now as one of the early grifters who cashed in on a newfound cult that was gaining traction.
Do you know what a Christian is, what it means? To be like Christ. In order to be like Christ, first you must be born again. When a person is born again they are indwelt with the Holy Spirit. Those believers who abide in Jesus, who walk in the Holy Spirit, they bare the fruits of the Holy Spirit.
Galatians
5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
5:23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
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The fruits of the Spirit are characteristics of Christ.
You were not a Christian, you were just religious, practicing religious ordinances, in hopes to be right with God.
It didn't work for you, and doesn't work for anyone, so you stopped practicing religion.
@DanielJospehPaul
The “no true Christian” fallacy. You aren’t inside my mind so unfortunately you can never speak for me on that. All I can say is it was all very real for me until it wasn’t. Christians are taught to say people like me are apostates who were never truly saved, discrediting anything we say. It’s a very well thought out system that’s designed to keep you inside forever. Good luck to you man I hope you have your eyes opened like I did. It’s okay to ask questions. I wish you the best.
@oswaldomayberry9260
I am going by what the scriptures say. When a person is born again they are granted eternal life.
John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
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So if you had been born again you would have been given eternal life.
It's forever. So a Christian can't be saved one day, or for such and such a time, than no longer have eternal life, it's forever.
@DanielJospehPaul Exactly what I’m talking about. Christian’s invalidate everyone else’s experiences with Christianity by saying “you were never truly saved”. It’s the perfect trap to keep you locked in for life. I know this because I used to believe the exact same way. You can say I’m lying but you don’t know me and you can’t speak to how real my faith was. I begged God for years to reveal Himself to me. He never has. I finally stopped looking.
@@oswaldomayberry9260
You said I don't know how real your faith was. What is faith?
You are forgetting that a man of God, Ananias, was visited by the Lord and instructed to go to Paul and restore his sight for he would become a vessel of the Lord. (Acts 9) There were witnesses on the road with Paul, skeptics, that reported seeing the light that blinded Paul. You stated if it were possible the very elect would be deceived, meaning not possible and all the disciples accepted Paul and his and their teachings match . I am almost 70 years old and have worn out many Bibles, not in church, just me, my Bible and the Holy Spirit to guide. I have read the earliest translations, including the Geneva and Gutenberg and have researched the authenticity of his writings. The truth doesn't changed based on our ability to stomach it. Believe it all or none of it. Revelation 22:18For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. Beware lest you yourself are judged a false teacher.
It doesn’t matter how old you are, nor how many bibles you have worn out. It seems like you might be the one who cannot stomach the truth, since there are clearly identified conflicts between Jesus and Paul - hate to break it to you. Revelation was likely written by John the Elder, whom no one should take seriously.
“Take all of it or none of it” is not what I will do, thanks. I’m not a fan of being told what to do by a stranger.
Christian, here. Revelations is talking specific of THAT book
Another great deep dive. Paul has always driven me crazy. He always seemed to be the person who lives a terrible life, and then pivots and tries to tell everyone else how to live theirs.
Donald Trump.
@@undrwatropium3724His cult certainly brings up questions about the morals of every prior religious icon.
I am not sure whether Paul was married or celibate? It must have been tough for him.
@@marinacitronova8604 Paul was an incel and he never knew Jesus.
The Bible is true after all and unfortunately, you’re gonna go to hell for not being a true seeker! “We all can’t be wrong “ Yes, according to the Prophetic timeline, you’re all wrong.!!!
You cannot out psychologize the Bible for God not to throw you into hell for all eternity. In other words, you cannot come up with a good enough excuse here and now, so you will not be able to on judgment day. If you say you did not want to be born, God is going to say you should’ve been born again, that means become a Christian so that’s not gonna work. And there are no other excuses try to think of one. So now you know for the first time in your life, that the Bible is smarter than you and it is a steel trap, smarter than all of mankind, What should you do then? So at least investigate and look to see that these things are true, because right now you just learned the Bible is smarter than you, and you will be accountable for your life on judgment day before God!
Prophecy, the Bible is 27% prophecy, that’s future history written in advance. God‘s really sticking his neck out to get it cut off if he’s wrong, but he hasn’t been wrong about the thousands of prophecies that were fulfilled, so he’ll be right about the end of the world prophecies as well and you’ll have no excuse on judgment day for not looking for truth!
Caveat: you cannot look for God in times of chaos says Isaiah 45:19, so you better do it now. In other words,You’ll be too worried about your own survival when chaos hits, than your eternal destiny!
Statistic probability of 40 writers writing the Bible with zero margin of deviation, proves God wrote the Bible through the 40 writers!
God authored the Bible!
DNA does not auto encrypt, the code writer is outside of the code of the 3300000,000,000 lines of computer code in the human genome of our DNA! So who wrote the code to such sophistication?
1,000,000 seconds is 12 days, 1,000,000,000 seconds is 32 years! That’s the difference between 1 million and 1 billion!
One person’s DNA could fill the Grand Canyon up to 50 times full of books. John 21:25 “I suppose everything Jesus did, the world wouldn’t have enough room for the books telling of it.“ this verse would be fulfilled!
Psalm 139:16 “in my members you have written many books“!
Psalm 139 is about the human body!
17:17 It's worth noting that based on what can be pieced together of pre-Pauline texts, Mary Magdalene was the only disciple who Jesus would allow to speak on his behalf.
About women, also Jesus considered one of the Mary’s his disciple - Martha scolded her for not helping her in the kitchen and Jesus said she had chosen the better part by sitting at his feet learning (disciple).
If we could just get everyone to accept that the Bible is just a book, all these problems would go away.
How many times has the Bible been altered?
Over 30,000 changes were made, of which more than 5,000 represent differences between the Greek text used for the Revised Version and that used as the basis of the King James Version. Most of the other changes were made in the interest of consistency or modernization.
@@undrwatropium3724 but ALL "divinely inspired"... 😏
Imagine if the average person actually cared about preservation, ecology, environmental footprint, benefitting and improving and valuing others and letting them go and try to be happy in their own way
Instead of what we have
How can any hypothetical god even stand up when we can envision such a society yet not live in it because of his followers in large part?
God didn't write the bible, man did and edit it too. God was only supposed to have written on stone. The most important thing in the history of the world and it was trashed.🤣. I can't believe the Bible. Them so-called miracles were easy to fool people 2,000+ years ago. Notice there are no more miracles today. If so have someone do one then. Many people did it back then.
"....accept that the Bible is just a book..." ... not the bible so much, but the whole "God" ideation needs to be researched and explained. Then, all the "problems" would go away. The God thing has to be debunked.
“Jesus vs Paul” by Robert Breaker. I challenge anyone who believes the lie that Paul was a “false apostle” to watch that video, study Dispensationalism, study and learn how the Bible is structured and you’ll find there are NO CONTRADICTIONS between Jesus & Paul when the whole of scripture is correctly interpreted and applied.
This deception has been around for 2,000 years and it comes from a lack of knowledge & understanding.
I was once very disturbed by what I thought were contradictions between Jesus & Paul, because if you just compare one verse with one verse, then yes it appears to contradict. Then I fasted and prayed for God to show me the truth and he lead me to a series of videos where I learned about Dispensationalism, and now that I understand dispensational theology, it all makes sense. It really opens up the whole Bible and makes things so simple and beautiful. It brings peace.
Study the book of Acts, study dispensationalism, study church history, study these things and ask the Heavenly Father to show you the truth, humble yourself, ask Him to forgive all of your sin, and ask Him to show you the truth of this matter, and He will, because He loves you.
-In Christ, Matthew. ✝️🙂
Thank you brother. God bless.
@@TheJoyofUnknown Thank you brother, the Lord bless you too!
Great comment.
The problem is that, these atheists don’t read in context and it hurts me that some Christians believe their nonsense.
@@edward1412 Gotta pray for them that the Holy Spirit will correct their error. I’ve been in lots of error in my walk but God is always faithful to show me the truth and correct me.
If you have concerns about Paul contradicting Jesus then read what N. T. Wright says about Paul in his books and watch his podcasts to understand why Paul does not contradict Jesus. He also has a short podcast that explains simply why Paul's gospel and Jesus' look different but are actually the same thing.
In 2 Peter 3, the apostle Paul is referred to as a ‘dear brother’ by the apostle Peter. We see here that Peter acknowledges Paul as a ‘dear brother’ (in the faith). In 2 Peter 3:16, there is a warning to anyone who would distort/twist Paul’s writings.
You guys on RUclips must be careful who you watch, as RUclips is full of misleading videos. You must be careful not to be led astray.
“Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.” - 2 Timothy 2:15
Jesus Christ is Lord and Saviour!
“For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life” - John 3:16
“But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name: who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.“ - John 1:12-13.
Always take what you hear back to The Bible and CHECK to see if what you're hearing adds up. God bless you all
I am an agnostic. Christianity, to me, is surprisingly consistent and intelectual, though. It's not like hinduism or tribal cults. Especially the Thomism.
You underestimate the symbolic language. What you are telling about Paul's own words about "Christ in him" is just literallistic way of thinking. Which is wrong since he was a Jew and Judaism loves symbols and philosophy. Christians understand him pretty well, actually. Jesus' words about hating one's family are what is called overstatement. You really should read about Jewish culture.
Jesus told his disciples, that the word will spread "both in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth". It was clear, that all human beings, no matter which religion they believe, are subjects to preaching.
Jesus told Simon Peter: “Feed my lambs”. He established him as a teacher, an authority. This does not contradict being humble.
"Everyone who calls..." - come on. If someone's heart is not pure, then it's hard to expect God to help such a person. Pure logic. No theology involved. There is no contradiction at all! I guess, we all should create long lectures every time we speak or write, to be fully understood 🤣
"I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who has given me strength, that he considered me trustworthy, appointing me to his service. Even though I was once a blasphemer and a persecutor and a violent man, I was shown mercy because I acted in ignorance and unbelief" 1 Timothy 1:12-13. Paul does not contradict Jesus or himself on that topic. It's a matter of emphasis. It's simple and it's plain.
My comment might be much longer, but I'll leave it here. The rest of the video also lacks strong arguments. The objections are pretty much same as above.
Apparently we all contradict ourselves, if we stick to this type of thinking. I could take words of any person out of context and the consequences would be very similar.
Sorry for my English. It sure isn't the best, because it's not my first language 😉
With due respect, I honestly think Paul explained Jesus' mission more than anyone did in the Bible, It surely took inspiration from God for Paul to understand and explain abstract concepts like Salvation by faith - something he himself did not previously believe in. Through his writings, we can easily link the new and old testament and better make sense and meaning out of why God did what he did in the old testament and why Jesus did whatever he did in the new testament.
Jesus arguably spent most of His time on earth teaching and ministering to those in need, ultimately died for our sins at the climax of His mission ... But He didn't take so much trouble to explain His mission in-depth, after all, they wouldn't understand it. In contexts like Matthew 19:27-29, Matthew 20:20-24, it appears to me like even the disciples never understood Jesus' mission while he was still with them, they had a different kingdom in mind ! - History has it that even after His death, they thought he was coming "very" soon to defeat the Romans (who had colonized Judea at the time) and establish His kingdom right in that area & make Israel strong again as it was in the days of king david.
Just as God works - by making us coworkers with Him in mission, basing on the talents He has given us, Paul - a well educated man was chosen by God for his gift of intellectualism, to be the one to decipher and explain some of these concepts to the rest, and even then He didn't solely rely on his knowledge, He was taught by God in the days after his "road to Damascus experience"
It is crystal clear that Saul/Paul contradicted Jesus the messiah like crazy! Jesus the messiah himself said i did not come to change the law, i came to fulfill it. What did Paul do? He abolished the law. Go figure. The direct family members of Jesus may God be pleased with him clearly disliked Saul/Paul.
@@Lion_Hamza Paul did not abolish the law, he said the law have no effect to those who believed in Christ because Christ already fulfilled the law for them. This woman do not have an understanding of the gospel.
@@Lion_Hamza Galatians 3:24-27 KJV
Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
@@Lion_Hamza wrong! Jesus commissioned Paul, Paul taught as led by the Holy Spirit.
Paul did not abolish anything, Rome ensured the Jews could not keep it.
And you have no basis, except by imagination to think otherwise.
Jesus: I am God
Paul: You are the firstborn of all creation.
problem. Paul wasn't bringing in new people and violating Christ's commandment to minister to the Jews. In Acts 1,after Jesus had ressurected, he commanded the apostles to go into ALL the world and preach the gospel. So Jesus was saying to apostles that his truth was for everyone. Peter and John and Andrew were already preaching to the unsaved Gentiles. In acts, it says that Phillip witnessed to an Ethiopian. So if Paul was wrong, you have to find another reason.
One of the things that caused severe anxiety when I was younger was attempting to reconcile the words of Paul, Jesus, and James in what was supposed to be a flawless, seamless document in total harmony with itself.
You got it all wrong lady you need to go back and study the life of Jesus study everything everything about the apostle to the nation's Paul. When Paul was stopped while on his way to persecute the people of the way in Damascus he became a member of the way after that you were talking so fast that you missed out completely that a great friendship got started between Jesus and the apostle Paul there was no room for this unfortunate situation your trying to bring in. From when Paul started to learn about the Way, he had to learn about this New way that Jesus WAS a part of and Jesus will not allow this New friendship to go the way you're trying to make it look Jesus and Paul saw a beautiful friendship started in any case a good cooperation was needed for Paul to be an apostle to the nation
Also at Matt 23:9-10 Jesus a perfect righteous man is setting up principles that this early Christian congregation needs was warning these new or inexperienced disciples about things they should avoid like people referring to them as father because one father is in the heavens already God Jehovah neither be called leader because I Jesus am your leader only one leader is needed also the greatest among you must be your minister. Minister IN THIS sense means one taking the lead in helping other not Lording IT over others. I'm using the New World Translation of the Holy SCRIPTURE it explains words so that you get the true meaning of what God intended for us to read especially ther at Matt 23. One must remember the New Christian era is starting there are old troubles within the old religious order that Jesus the leader is trying to remove without creating disunity among the New congregation
Please stop coming to conclusion about Jesus and Paul. If you read the bible carefully you will get the point that Jesus and Paul will have to work well to accomplish good thing for the New era or the way for now and remember the true God Jehovah is a part of all of this New friendship is being enhanced the Jewish system will no longer be there God is turning his attention to the New way . Remember what Jesus said TO the Samaritan woman John 4:22 you worship what you do not know vs 23 we will worship with spirit and truth. This is New this will take place in 33ce New era so Jesus who is the leader hear is setting up principles that will the everyone must follow SO there was no pushing and pulling between Jesus and Paul everything was well organized and in order. Jesus is the son of God leader. God Jehovah is father. The disciples are the followers of the way soon the Christian congregation, those are the rules or principles to follow .If I may. Please acquire the New World Translation of the Holy Scripture. It's a very authentic bible translation. This was shown in the game show Jeperdy by the late Alex Trebec a few years ago.
Oh one more taught. All followers of Jesus will be preachers and teachers Matt 24:14. 28:19 20. WHAT Jesus said there at Matt 23:9-- was not telling them I will be the only teacher. Jesus WAS helping them to separate themselves from the PEOPLE OUTSIDE THE WAY who want to be called rabbi and leaders and father. You will not be like them. This is New, remember Paul will be eating meat that God have cleanse. ACTS 10:13-- Paul will be an apostle to the nation that's why he was stopped while on his way to persecute those of the way in Damascus, he became a member of the way and a very supportive disciples throughout his career as a apostle to the nation. Holy spirit was poured out on him also in 33ce. So there WAS NO animosity between Jesus and Paul. Jesus WAS in the heavens as leader of the new Christian congregation, Paul was on the earth as the apostle to the nation
@@charlespermaul6966Perfect
Peter also performed miracles. Was he also a false prophet? No. Probably because he was part of the 12 apostles.
Why do you think Paul was a false prophet? Possibly because he wasn’t part of the 12.
Did Jesus appear to other people after his death? Answer is yes.
[ John 20:19, 20:26-31, Matt 28:9-10, 28:16-20, Luke 24:13-32, 24:36-43, Acts 1:3-8, Luke 22:44-49 ]
Is it possible he appeared to Paul. Answer is yes [ Acts 9 esp v5, Gal 1:11-17* ]
About the deception Jesus said Many will come in my name claiming "I am the Messiah”
Did Paul claim he is the messiah? No. The DECEPTION was in people CLAIMING they are the “Messiah”.
Do not add any sentiments to this.
If Jesus will watch a LIAR/IMPOSTER write more books and teach Jesus to many than any of the 12, it is up to Him.
JESUS NEVER SAID PEOPLE WILL CLAIM TO SPEAK FOR ME min 3.00. If Jesus doesn’t want people to talk on HIS BEHALF, he shouldn’t have sent the disciples into all nations(Matt 28:18-20). He should do that HIMSELF. By that logic, dont teach anyone about Christ.
He said people will claim I AM THE MESSIAH. Paul never claimed that. He always made sure to exalt the Christ.
If Paul cast out demons and performed miracles, didn’t Jesus give believers that power. If means Jesus must be the Master Deceiver. Paul’s mission was not about casting out devils, or making miracles, His mission was to preach Christ to the Gentiles even though he did those things Jesus told the disciples to do such as healing the sick and performing miracles.
According to your knowledge about the elect being only Jews. The Church is a called out group, also meaning elect. Jesus after his resurrection told them to teach all nations(Matt 28:18-20). What you are saying is so wrong.
The tangent you are leaning on is so slippery. It also gives credence to the fact that the new testament (apart from the life and deeds of Jesus in the 4 gospels) should be discredited.
You read Matthew 23:8-10 without context. Read from 1-10 and come again.
Jesus was against the Pharisees doing things to be seen of men and their love for Greetings in the streets as Teachers.
In the book of 1Timothy, (read from chapter 2 v 1 - 6)
Paul writes a letter to Timothy, telling him of God’s purpose for his(Paul’s) ministry.
*** Do you see a man who is calling himself the “Messiah" or one who is acknowledging the Father and His Son from v1 - 6???
If Jesus didn’t want people to teach others after his resurrection, he wouldn’t have ordered them to make disciples of all Nations.(Matt 28:18-20)
RUclips is easy to start, teaching truth is not, it requires revelation from God. The bible is an easy book to read. It is not plain to understand, especially the things about the Kingdom. It requires the Grace of God to understand. Many times after Jesus’ teaching, the disciples came to ask of the meaning of what he taught(Luke 8 esp 9-11, Mark 4 esp v10, Matt 13:3-12). Even Peter acknowledged that what Paul taught was hard to understand. 2 Peter 3:15-16.
Did the early Church deem Paul as a false teacher/prophet? No. If he was a false prophet then even those who followed Jesus have been deceived because they believed his experience, revelation and writings about the Christ. Gal1:18-24
When Paul talked of dying to himself, it didn’t mean he was no longer called Paul or he was no longer a human. He meant his will has been superimposed by the Lord’s will for him. He therefore had no desire to follow through on his will because the will of God became paramount to him. He was one who counted all things as dung for the excellency of the knowledge of God.
I could not even get past minute 8.35 of your video
May God help us to understand Him more each day.
Faith without works is empty is in James, not any of Paul's epistles.
You're right! Thanks for correcting that!
Yeah, I got the t-shirt
James was the brother of Jesus - both Paul and Luke in the Book of Acts call him this - and was at odds with Paul and what he was doing. If you read Chapter 21 of the Book of Acts, James confronts Paul about the deviant message he has been preaching while out in the field, and orders Paul to do a one week purification ritual to prove his loyalty to the Jewish teachings of Jesus and to the Law. So everything was not totally harmonious within the early church., and Paul and James were at loggerheads with one another.
Objection, plz define "faith" for me.
Noice Woiyk! Paul was a False Profit for sure
Here’s a comprehensive list of commonly discussed perceived contradictions between Paul’s teachings and those of Jesus, along with explanations addressing these issues:
1. **Justification by Faith vs. Works**:
- **Jesus**: Emphasized the importance of following commandments and doing good works (Matthew 19:17, Matthew 25:31-46).
- **Paul**: Emphasized justification by faith apart from works of the Law (Romans 3:28, Galatians 2:16). **Response**: Paul does not dismiss the importance of good works but argues that they are a result of faith and not the means of justification (Ephesians 2:10). Both Jesus and Paul agree that genuine faith will produce good works.
2. **Role of the Law**:
- **Jesus**: Affirmed the ongoing relevance of the Law and its fulfillment (Matthew 5:17-18).
- **Paul**: Argued that Christians are not under the Law but under grace (Romans 6:14, Galatians 3:24-25). **Response**: Paul’s teaching suggests that while the Law’s ceremonial aspects are fulfilled in Christ, the moral principles of the Law are upheld by living in the Spirit (Romans 13:10).
3. **Eschatology (End Times)**:
- **Jesus**: Predicted events and signs of the end times, expecting the Kingdom to come within the generation of His listeners (Matthew 24:34).
- **Paul**: Expected Christ’s return soon but acknowledged it could be delayed (1 Thessalonians 4:15). **Response**: Jesus’ predictions were often interpreted in both immediate and future terms, and Paul’s expectations were part of the early Church’s hope for Christ’s imminent return.
4. **Divorce**:
- **Jesus**: Permitted divorce only in cases of marital unfaithfulness (Matthew 19:9).
- **Paul**: Allowed for separation in certain cases, particularly for believers married to non-believers (1 Corinthians 7:15). **Response**: Paul’s guidance can be seen as addressing specific issues within the Corinthian church, with the broader principle of maintaining marriage and reconciliation where possible.
5. **Paul’s Apostolic Authority**:
- **Jesus**: Appointed the twelve apostles personally (Luke 6:13).
- **Paul**: Claimed apostolic authority through a direct revelation from Jesus (Galatians 1:1). **Response**: The early Church accepted Paul’s authority, seeing his apostleship as divinely appointed and validated by his ministry (Galatians 2:7-9).
6. **Teachings on Women**:
- **Jesus**: Treated women with respect and included them in His ministry (Luke 8:1-3, John 4:7-30).
- **Paul**: Wrote instructions on women’s roles in the church, which some interpret as restrictive (1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:12). **Response**: Paul also acknowledged women leaders in the early church (Romans 16:1, Acts 18:26), suggesting his instructions were context-specific rather than absolute restrictions.
7. **Salvation and Transformation**:
- **Jesus**: Taught the need for repentance and transformation (John 3:3, Luke 24:47).
- **Paul**: Emphasized faith in Jesus for salvation (Romans 3:28, Ephesians 2:8-9). **Response**: Paul’s teachings on faith are complementary to Jesus’ teachings on repentance. Faith in Christ leads to repentance and transformation, aligning with Jesus’ message.
8. **Jesus’ Teaching on Riches**:
- **Jesus**: Warned about the dangers of wealth and its potential to hinder spiritual growth (Matthew 19:24).
- **Paul**: Taught that the love of money is the root of all evil (1 Timothy 6:10). **Response**: Both teachings caution against the love of money and emphasize the importance of using wealth responsibly, aligning with broader biblical principles.
These explanations aim to show that, despite differences in emphasis or application, the teachings of Paul and Jesus can be seen as complementary parts of a unified Christian message.
Evening brothers, sisters in Christ Jesus and neighbors. It's important to understand that there are going to be seeming contrdictions and feeling and opinions about this apostol or that diciple or that so and so...I used to find so many contradictions and I disliked certain things certain apostols said that I did not agrre with at all....turns out I wasn't reading enough and consistantly enogh to unrwravel the hidden gems of knowledge that would day by day accumulate and form the bigger picture of understand that I lacked and doubted many yrs ago....time and pressure and conssistancy really pay of when quitting is a choice and not giving up on a God that has claimed to be who He is and has revealed Himself in creations and in us who believe and put our trust in Gods Gosple of Grace through Jesus Christ The Lord of all and the word of God! In Jesus Wonderful name
2 Peter 3:16
He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.
Could you be specific? What did Kristi distort?
@@oscargordon I did not say anything really ! All I did is show the scripture; (2 Peter 3:16)!
Paul never contradicted Jesus !
But even back in the days while the Apostle Paul was still alive Ignorant and unstable people did the same thing Kristi is doing !
But Kristi is doing it on purpose because she as an agenda !
@@nanoffyourbesyness9577 Kristi presented a bunch of examples of how what Paul says differed from the teachings attributed to Jesus in the Gospels. I asked for specifics and your reply was “I did not say anything really!”, just a quote from a document written in Peter’s name.
You refused to address any of the examples presented. Is that because you know you can’t? Is this a case of “Well my preacher could explain it but I can’t”? Who is the unstable one here? Who demonstrates what the Bible actually says here?
“The epistle is traditionally attributed to Peter the Apostle, but most scholars consider the epistle pseudepigraphical (i.e., authored by one or more of Peter's followers in Ancient Rome, using Peter as a pseudonym) Scholars estimate the date of authorship anywhere from 60 to 150 AD.”
Please address your take on ANY of the examples that Kristi presented.
What is Kristi's agenda? Trying to inform people of what the Bible actually says as opposed to what preachers have been telling people what it says?
@@nanoffyourbesyness9577 can you specify refute anything she said?
This implies that just reading the Bible might not provide the truth . It needs a sound interpretation to have a consensus
I hear ya! Being an atheist, I've begun to look at Paul in a new light and with an open mind.I have discovered some of the same discrepancies in Paul's life and teachings as you have.It's amazing that Paul ended up writing two thirds of the new testament and that many Christians quote him more than Jesus.Maybe they should change their title "Christian" to "Paulian."
From some of the studies I have done my conclusion is Paul was the 1st or a main Pillar Jesuit priest controlled by the RCC used to control the masses. JMO
Yeah and part of Paul's writing are written by someone else claiming to be him.
@@Cuffsmaster Paul warned the Thessalonians not to be troubled by a letter-AS COMING FROM US.(2 Thess.2:2) It's a bit ironic that Paul warned the Thessalonians that there were fake letters claiming to be from Paul and yet,all these years latter, scholars are saying that many of Paul's letters that are in the new test.are not really Paul's letters but are fake and were not written by him but by imposters.Go figure.
@@shriggs55 I pay little attention to Paul. He is more of a nut case than anything else. He also thought the Messiah would come suing his lifetime. That didn't work to well for him .. As you say "go figure"
@@Cuffsmaster Yeah.I agree
Fantastic lecture. THANKS
2 Peter 3:15-16 (NIV):
“Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.”
Paul is the founder of today's Christianity
The bank in rome? how many people could they help with all their weaith
@@hannesproductions4302but yet they say to have many many children but we aren’t going to help support large, poor families.
Mathew 28:19 Jesus clearly tells His followers to spread The Gospel. Amen
"They will neither harm nor destroy on all my holy mountain, for the earth will be filled with the knowledge of the Lord as the waters cover the sea."
It is shameful to take the life of an innocent animal merely for the pleasure of eating its flesh. Very few things can be more shameful. You would know this if you would but but listen to your heart, for the word of God resides in your heart more than any book ever written. Truly I tell you, it is IMPOSSIBLE for your name to be in the Book of Life if you are a destroyer of life.
"Nothing impure will ever enter the Kingdom of Heaven, nor will anyone who does what is shameful or deceitful, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb’s Book of Life."
God is the creator of life and Satan is the destroyer of life. Whose side are you on? Choose wisely.
"The time has come for judging the dead and for rewarding your servants the prophets and your people who revere your name, both great and small, and for destroying those who destroy the earth."
Whoever has ears let them hear, for the time is near.
I appreciate your perspective in all your videos. You're very intelligent and rational. Thank you for your work!
Mid acts dispensationalism clears up this confusion
YES, just saw you commented back on tiktok about this one being in the works! Love your content, it’s helped me TREMENDOUSLY
I was just thinking about this!! Ah, thank you!!! I’m deconstructing Mormonism and my attempt at Christianity and saw that Jesus really was a wanderer who taught a simpler gospel than what seems to have grown out of it. It all feels like a muddy mess of theology and myth, haha.
You think jesus gospel was more simple?
They had to confess their sins,repent,believe and be baptized.
Paul said believe.
John the Baptist, Jesus and Paul were members of a sub-sect of the Jewish faith. They thought the Earth would end in the generation in which they lived. They are wrong. Then the faith had to do a song and dance to change the theme.
It appears to be a muddy mess because you see lots of pieces but can’t seem to fit them together. It’s an intricate work of love and art. It’s brilliant. Jesus is a “wanderer” because He walked to Gentile regions, explaining to them that He is their way back to God. He did miracles to help them but to also show His Godly status. His simple message is truly simple though. Love YHWH. Love your neighbor. If you have questions, I’d love to dig out answers for you.
@@ryannoe86 If you look thought history there are 1000's of people with the gift of gab and the message people want to hear at that time and place that have been successful.
Hell we can na,e 10 cult leaders in the 20th century very easy starting with Charles Mason and Jim Jones.
People are gullible..
Jim Jones convinced people he was a faith healer too....
The problem with the bible, both the old and new Testaments, is that none of the supernatural events that are the foundation of the faith can be proven to be true. If one is willing to believe the fake supernatural events are real then rest is easy for them to believe without facts.
All the inaccurate things of the bible become easy to explain to yourself if you are willing to believe the obvious fake supernatural events are real.
The faith trains you to be gullible and to accept excuses. Christians are trained to be gullible from childhood. Religion is NOT about finding the truth but finding excuses to make the fake events seem true in their minds.
Yes, Jesus had some great simple messages for life.. Hell every faith has that. It is not spectacular for a faith to give a good basic set of rules for moral living. The problem is all the other stuff they add to that.
according to Prophet Mohammedl Paul is one of the most evil creature walked on earth .he created christianity and the poor jesus was a victim of this devil of Paul . thats why jesus in bible on the day of judgment Paul followers will go to jesus and they will call him God then jesus he will reply i dont know you go away sinners . Jesus said the key for heaven is by worshipping the Father alone ike a jew and keep to torah . Bur for paul the heaven is by beleiving in jesus and he washed you by hiis blood lol
Love and concur with your thoughts and invites. Keep it up 😊
This was such an amazing video. I've always felt exactly the same. I always get bummed when I go to church and see they're teaching from Paul that day
He's not saying he is Jesus, he is saying that as a born again Christian Jesus lives in him, and not just in him, but in all Christians.
Jesus speaking:
John 14
19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.
20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.
Whenever you quote scripture you always do it according to a selective narrative. You never include passages like this:
After a military victory against the Midianites Moses is angry with his generals for returning with too many prisoners:
17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.
18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.
(Numbers 31:17-18 King James Version)
@@douglascutler1037 yep, the OT was rife with narratives about the jews slaughtering other rival nations or tribes. since YHWH had "given them" certain lands which were inconvieniently ALREADY HELD BY SOMEONE ELSE. It only stands to reason those others just needed to be erased from the earth.
@@douglascutler1037 You've probably never heard this explanation, but check this out, cuz it's weird and kinda fun.
We might not talk about the Midianites much, but we do talk about the flood a lot, were EVERYBODY was killed, and only 8 people survived, not because they were good or bad necessarily, but because they had fully human DNA. Ever heard of the Nephilim? you know, the offspring of the Fallen Angels having sex with women? The Bible says there were Giants before and after the flood. That's because these races of giants were having sex with women, corrupting the pure human DNA of Adam and Eve. So God sent the flood to save Humanity's DNA thru Noah's family.
But the Fallen Angels and Nephilim where only males, and needed normal human women to reproduce, and their offspring were only males too. So, if you are tracking and do a bit of history research about the origins of the Midianites, the land they occupied, the children's sacrifices they practiced and the gods they worshipped, they fit the description of a tribe controlled and ruled by Giants, and perfectly explains why God killed the little Nephilim children and every woman that was old enough to have had sex with the giants and could've been pregnant. Notice how little girls were not killed cuz they could not have been pregnant of more giants, and females could not be nephilim. So there, that's the logical explanation from the Bible you probably won't believe, but now you know a possible reason.
Funny how the government is now saying they have in their possession alien ships, that ufos are real, archeologist are finding incredible megalithic structures and pyramids all over the world, all civilizations have a flood history and artwork representing giants and demigods, skeletons of giants have been found everywhere, from the USA to China and Peru, but nah, it's all a conspiracy and the Bible just is a fairy tale....
@@douglascutler1037u kinda did the same thing lol
@@vmirac-5270 But according to your own rules I only need to quote ONE scripture!
I only need to demonstrate ONCE a scripture showing factual or moral inconsistency. According to fundamentalist doctrine the Bible is perfect and free of error or inconsistency in ANY single fact, ideology or morality. Only one verse showing error calls the entire Bible into question. What is literal? What is fable? What is mythology? What is metaphorical? It's all open to interpretation.
Without a perfection of fact and morality the entire literal Bible concept tumbles down like a house of cards.
And there are thousands of verses to chose from. Bible says the first luminous day and night were created on the first day of creation and the sun on the the fourth day of creation. Oh, really? How does that work?
Obviously, the creation story is poetry by men of the day who had no idea of actually cosmology. And if it was written by God then God lied about his own creation which also disqualifies the Bible.
Paul was totally in line to say that we are crucified in Christ.
Matthew 10:38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.
Actually, we are not crucified with Christ. The original scripture says "Take up your staff (walking stick) and follow me" Look it up in the Cepher bible (The original scriptures )
I loved this. I'm hoping you did end up doing more on Paul, seeing that this was 1 year ago.
As I read the Bible, I was quickly struck with how often Paul contradicted Christ (which you mentioned in this video). I like the one where he promotes celibacy because he even says, "This doesn't come from God or Christ, but I believe..." - admitting that he is in conflict with the Divine, but he's going to go ahead anyway.
There are so many times when the newly-formed churches write to Paul and ask questions where it seems like he's just puling stuff out of his... robes. He's clearly doing damage control and playing to the gallery, rather than having real answers. But the one that really tipped the balance for me was when he's describing the other Apostles, saying 'They are the best! There's no one better than them - but I am also no less than them'. That ego flex says it all - Paul is a fraud.
Bottom line: Paul was not the Messiah, Jesus was. Even if they had the best of intentions, Paul and anyone else are just writing op-ed pieces and fan-fic... :)
I see what you're saying but I think if Paul wanted to elevate his teaching of celibacy he wouldn't have clarified that what he was saying wasn't from God. Paul says himself that he is the least of the Apostles so that point I don't really see. But my beloved I would recommend you to read the first four chapters of 1 Corinthians as in that letter Paul addresses the problem of being divided into factions by different disciples' teachings. I think that's what many think happened with Paul's letters but he strongly discourages that. Grace to you my beloved!!
@madnessbydesign1415 - You have nailed it! One of the sisters at church urged me to read the book of Philippians. As I was reading I got turned off by "I this, I that" in this letter; hence I started my investigation on him! His arrogance is out of this world! Something is off about him!
Paul was not a false teacher. He was a Jew himself. He referred to the Old Testament a lot which a lot of people don’t like because they thought Jesus died for us to do whatever they wanted. Paul was not telling us not to marry, he just said it would be better if we didn’t to focus more on God than ourselves. Ask Ahayah for wisdom while reading the Bible.
Another hypothesis is that Jesus' teachings are a mishmash of the sayings of other Apocalyptic prophets, whom later writers adapted - in part based on Paul's writings. Paul seems not to know several cases where Jesus directly commented on issues Paul was wondering about.
Not everyone who says Lord lord, we'll get to go to heaven, but everyone will. That's not what he was saying. Jesus was commenting people who were trying to do things out of their own work to get to heaven. If you kept reading that passage, you would see that he was saying how the people Saying, Lord lord, look what we have done when really? They should've Ben thankful for what God has done. They were relying on themselves that was the issue
I believe Paul was teaching celibacy because when the end came (pending destruction of the Temple) he didn't want women to be burdened with pregnancy and/or children who would slow their escape.
Hi, I just wanted to thank you for these videos. I’m in the beginning of my deconstruction and I really really look forward to your uploads. You have opened my eyes in so many ways and it’s really comforting to know I’m not a bad person for questioning what I was taught. Thank you❤
Welcome to your deconstruction journey! Be kind and patient with yourself
@@jezebelvibes You never heard of rightly dividing the word of truth, have you?
You have never heard of dispensations, have you?
There are no contradictions between Jesus and Paul when you rightly divide the word of truth and realize that there are dispensations in the bible.
You know if you were ever a true born again Christian (which you weren't) the Holy Spirit would've guided you to rightly divide the word of truth and then you would see that there are no contradictions between Jesus and Paul.
Jesus had his earthly ministry that was to Jews only and Paul had his ministry that was to Gentiles.
Paul received his teaching from the resurrected Jesus in heaven and that why the bible tells us to follow the apostle Paul as Christians.
@@danielblair4413 All of which, would be more comforting, if there was never major schisms, infighting, wars - antisemitism, pro-slavery arguments, or other, upheavals.
Or a blood libel, on Jews - that ran, just a bit, too long.
Whilst if I see one more, case of 'we all rebelled in Adam', from assorted, would be evangelists, online - well, I might become, a little... tired.
All in all though, it seems like rightly dividing, is an often very... sketchy affair.
Maybe, a bit like John 14:14?
@@danielblair4413you begin by saying " if you were a true born again" and in the same sentence say "which you were not"
Christian love indeed 😊
If you can't see what's wrong with that you still a long way to realize how deep you are in your religious beliefs.
@@danielblair4413 She HAS heard of these things.
You shouldn't have to wrestle with the Word of God to make it make sense. For example when there are direct contradictions. The 'No True Scotsman' fallacy is laughably ridiculous.
Also, could you point out where the bible tells us to follow Paul? I've never read that in the several times I've read the bible, or in any of the devotionals, nor have I heard any pastor/preacher/priest ever say such a thing.
I’m Muslim and let me tell u that ur right in everything, Christian today are following Paul thinking that they are following Yeshoua 😢
Matthew 5:43-48
Love for Enemies
“You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
Narrated Anas bin Malik:
that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: "I have been ordered to fight the people until they bear witness to La Ilaha Illallah, and that Muhammad is His servant and Messenger, and they face our Qiblah, eat our slaughtered (meat), and perform our Salat. And if they do that, then their blood and wealth will be unlawful to us, except with its due right. For them shall be whatever is for the Muslims, and they shall be obliged with that which the Muslims are obliged."
Grade: Sahih (Darussalam)
Ref.: Jami` at-Tirmidhi 2608, Book 40, Hadith 3
Eng.trans.: Vol. 5, Book 38, Hadith 2608
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying:
Do not greet the Jews and the Christians before they greet you and when you meet any one of them on the roads force him to go to the narrowest part of it.
Ref.: Sahih Muslim 2167a, Book 39, Hadith 16
USC-MSA web (Eng.) ref.: Book 26, Hadith 5389
NO
100% correct
You should stay quiet...Muslims follow a pedophile thinking he's a prophet.
Paul healed sick people even raised a boy from dead. What did son of muta Muhammad ( police be upon him ) do?! Rape , kill and sleep with children's....you critique Paul while you follow demonic, perverted , camel urine drinking Muhammad who will lead you to destruction if you keep following him...
PAUL : Follow my example, as i follow the example of CHRIST.
( 1 Corinthians 11:1 )
How do you sure that Muhammad is not a false prophet also?
the word aka the bible is inspired by God
The discrepancy between the accounts of Jesus in Paul's writings and the Gospel of Mark can be attributed to Mark drawing inspiration from Paul's teachings and then modifying the narrative to create a distinct story. This adaptation resulted in differences between the two accounts.
By replacing Paul and his companions with Jesus and the twelve apostles in Paul's writings, the story becomes consistent and logical. This swap highlights that Paul's life and teachings serve as the foundation for the New Testament narrative, which was later attributed to Jesus.
Consider the significance of Paul's epistles predating the gospels. This chronological fact invites us to ponder the possibility that Paul's writings influenced the later development of the New Testament narratives.
While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them, saying, “What do you think about the Messiah?” Whose son is he? They said to him: “Son of David.” He said to them: “How then does David in the spirit call him Lord? Saying: The Lord said to my Lord: Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies your footstool. If David calls him Lord, how is he his son? But no one could answer him with a word. And from that day no one dared to ask him at all.” (Matthew 22:41-46) ..........
Thank you for your courage and for what you are doing with these videos!!
I would love to see a deep dive into Paul! After my first reread of the Bible after I started questioning my faith, I started to wonder if he was one of the first to co-opt the story of Jesus to make his own cult.
And Paul was the reason I stopped going to church. Maybe I just had the misfortune of going to too many Pauline churches, but when 2/3rds (or more, it definitely felt like more) of the preaching was on the words Paul over the teachings of Jesus, the more cult like and the less divinely inspired it felt.
Same here, Paul was the reason I started reading my bible less … i had enjoyed the Gospels but when I got to Paul I was just feeling really frustrated and confused.
*2 Peter 3:15-16*
15 Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. 16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.
The condemnation is upon her, and all those who follow her.
Having an issue with hard teachings is one thing, but denying God for those teachings shows pride as in "I know better than God" which is the seed of all failure.
@@VirginMostPowerfull The pretty young girl making this video may indeed be a non-believer. However Paul indeed is a false dsicples and false apostle. This much this pretty little non-believer has correct.
@@KeepingWatch95 I am afraid she remains incorrect, as all the other Apostles approved of Paul including Peter who I quoted. And the Catholic Church has infallibly approved of the Apostle's writings.
Anyone who stands against Paul, stands against the Church Universal, and thus stands against God Almighty our Lord Jesus Christ.
She will receive according to her works, although I pray God shows her mercy.
@@VirginMostPowerfull Revelation 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
Revelation 18:5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.
Revelation 18:6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.
Revelation 18:7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.
Revelation 18:8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.
If the reader is not bantering with a fool...We learned something new and comes from above❤
Awesome. Truly awesome. Well presented info here. This rabbit hole gets deeper and deeper when realizing this for the first time.
You will reach the bottom of the rabbit hole once you discover all the gospels are not from Jesus.
Thanks so much. After 58 years of “apostasy” I no longer feel alone. This guy Paul has always bothered me, and you’ve helped me understand why. Or you’ve confirmed it. Now I understand why our religion teacher (a catholic priest) said that I “sound like a Protestant”, and now I understand why it seemed like a compliment to me, even then. It wasn’t long until the last time I voluntarily attended a Roman mass.
Agreed. I was of the mind, he was an usurper of the gospel. But the churches always use his teachings to beat folks over the head and force them to conform to their (the Church) ideals.
Amen
The priest shouldn't have said so. Word can hurt.
Jesus Condemns homosexuality Luke 17:28-32
@@marinacitronova8604 oh, but it didn’t hurt, I realized he was right and I happily turned away. A few years ago, a college friend advised me to return to my “catholic heritage”. I said I firmly do not believe any of that stuff. He replied “that doesn’t matter, you were baptized”. HUH what I believe doesn’t matter? Isn’t that ridiculous.
As someone who joined the J Witnesses for over 2 years during my teenage years, I have to say this: they seemed to quote Paul more than Jesus. That was one of the issues I had before leaving. I still agreed with them more than the others but decided that no church could contain me. I grew a beard (another point of contention with them) and learned how to read Hebrew and Greek. Today, in my 40s, I say that a congregation is a room full of people who haven't done enough research to ditch this primitive mythological nonsense
Halleluyah Will. Well done, brother.
Glad you left that. JWs are NOT Christians.
You are following a false prophet, come to the triune God that is true God reveals in Jesus our Lord
It seems you have become an atheist because of people. Nobody should decide the way how your relationship with God the Almighty should be. Being raised as Orthodox Christian, I joined the JW at the age of 21 but after years went by , I have come to realize that religion is not made by God. However, apart from the way it has been wrongly interpreted and changed through translation according to how it suits every christian denomination, the Bible remains to be God's word. So now I am very happy in the way I communicate with God and lead my life according to his will. I don't need anyone but God because there is nothing I fear as long as I believe in him. People are people and they are just like me. So no one has the right to dictate your life, even God himself doesn't interfere with the choices we make. That is why Salvation is freely given to us through God's grace by giving his only begotten Son, Jesus Christ as Ransom to cleans our sins.
Try Islam with open mind and proper genuine knowledge and understanding. Let your intellect and deeper reason/logic lead you. Then have a sincere prayer to Almighty God to guide you to the truth where ever it is. Accept God's guidance when He manifests it to you.
I really hate people who pretend to be smart even though they are stupid,
To people who actually know the Bible…
This is the most childish idiotic arguments you could ever make
It takes 1 minute to go back and read in context
Let's not forget Paul's writings are letters to indiviuals and or churches. Not a voice from heaven saying write My words in a book (like John). Peter said it best, that Pauls' style of writing can eaisly be misunderstood leading to ones own destruction. His writings are used to claim we do not have to keep the law of God, the Commandments. Paul never said that, he kept the law of God, the Sabbath, and the Feasts. The only issues a Pharisee of the day would have had with Paul is preaching Jesus as Messiah, and circumcision of Gentile converts.
The thing about Paul's letters, he's answering questions, so we're really just listening into one side of a converstation. We don't have the original letters that were written to Paul.
The issue is, people don't really read Paul's letters as letters to specific people of a specific place and time. And so therefore there will be passages, even in majority, that will not apply to those outside of that group. Not to mention the multitude of times Paul specifically states he is writing his opinion.
@@cjkikuji9274 Agreed. They're probably a good thing to read, but not meant for us. Also, 2 Peter 3:16 warns people of Paul's letters
I often called Paul jokingly "The Patron Saint of undercover agents". The way I see it, his theology made christianity less threatening to the Roman Empire. Especially considering the fact that he used to persecute early christians, his "Revelations" seems more like a change of tactics than a real change of hearts.
This is a fascinating point. You mention that Paul's tactics changed, but what were his ends? If Paul attacked Christianity because it was a Jewish heresy, wouldn't making it less Jewish have worked against him? You mention an appealingness to the Roman empire, could you elaborate? All I recall that Christians continued to be persecuted by pain of death under the empire until the Edict of Milan, 313AD, so I wouldnt have assumed that Christianity was all that appealing to them.
i dont know if it made it less threatening because in the end Paul got beheaded for his faith in Jesus, so I think his goal was to present the Christian beliefs exactly as they were intended to be, not compromising for the Roman Empire
@lemmingkingyt5618 the Jew and people during Jesus's day said the same thing about jesus. They didn't believe until christ left.
Could you elaborate on how Paul's ministry is less threatening to the Roman Empire?
I could potentially see a reference to Romans 13, but that's about it.
If anything, Paul's ministry and teaching made things worse for Christians under the empire. Consider his repudiation of circumcision in Galatians. Had he supported the Judaizers or even remained neutral on circumcision, he would have given Christians a chance to associate more directly with Judaism and therefore receive some of the social and political protections afforded to Jewish believers. Instead, he drives a wedge between the gospel and the law, increasing political vulnerability and forcing the young church to accept a deeply multicultural form.
@@stephenchristian5639 Yeah, I think he might have failed that in the short run, but in the long run, eventually the form of christianity Paul created was the one that became Rome's official religion.
Also, the fact that before Paul, there was still a debate wether non-jews could become christians or not, and Paul helped tip the balance in favor of non-jews becoming christians.
Most of the supposed contradictions in the Bible (between Jesus and Paul, Jesus and Jesus, Paul and Paul, the New Testament and the Old Testament, etc.) are easily resolved by reading the verses in context. The rest can be resolved by determining from the context and genre whether the language is literal or figurative. (People critical of the Bible tend to read it as overly-literal as possible and ignore figures of speech and poetic language.) One of my favorite apparent (in appearance only) contradictions is Proverbs 26:4-5: "Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself. Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own eyes." Someone hunting for contradictions will say, "see, the author can't make up his mind and is contradicting himself!" The biblical authors weren't stupid - that much is obvious if you take the time to see the wisdom and discernment written there. Perhaps there are two seemingly opposing ideas that need to be held in tension to get to the core truth (a common technique used in Hebrew poetry). Maybe there is a deeper concept here, that it takes wisdom when dealing with some people, the street smarts of when to provide an answer to their mistaken ideas (if they are really interested in finding answers and resolution) and when answering them will just drive them deeper down the rabbit hole they've put themselves in and drag you in along with them. The key is determining if they are really looking for answers or if they are simply determined to prove themselves right and everyone else wrong.
Spot on. These people cherry pick and twist scripture to prove their point. Many times it's just an attempt to prove themselves right as you said.
The old context argument. You people that agree with this probably couldn't agree on the context, so your point is moot. If there's 100 people in a church, that's how many interpretations of the scriptures there are.@@user-ni6nx7rx6z
It seems like Paul was opposing the teachings of Jesus, but they did not listen to him. Then he claimed to have a vision of Jesus and that he was suddenly a believer to get them on his side. He then goes on to teach “Christian” teachings that contradict the teachings of Jesus he did not like.
Quite suspicious, isn't it?
Was Peter a liar too?
2 Peter
3:15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
@@DanielJosephPaul they never have a answer for this one! They'd have to deny Peter too.
I don’t like Paul either (lots of grudges against the man), but one thing that not many people know is that Paul’s authentic letters are the earliest dated parts of the New Testament. Even earlier than the Gospels. This is despite the canonical ordering of the texts.
Paul’s Jesus is different from the gospel Jesus .
That is true. The "synoptic" gospels were written many decades after Jesus' death. Also remember, only Luke had any kind of education, and spoke and wrote in Greek. John Mark, Matthew and John were poorly- or uneducated disaffected youth, not gray haired, bearded older men. Consequently, they did not write the synoptic gospels themselves, but had what we now call "ghost writers." And how much had changed over the years of the telling of the stories?
@@johntiggleman4686Okay... I have some gripes with that. As far as we know the gospels were anonymous BUT the fact that they were written is solid evidence that they were written by educated GREEK elites. These were relatively well-off scribes or apprentices/servants of scribes who were writing fan-fiction stories of poor people from the Levant.
This is common throughout history- higher class people having pastoral fantasies of living idealistic peasant/fisherman lives. (Marie Antoinette comes to mind)
You are incorrect. Acts 10 shows there was Gospel copies distributed around during Peter's church. There never was multiple Gospels by multiple authors. The Gospel was originally one book, written by Lazarus in consultation with the Apostles [John 21:24] and published soon after Jesus left them on their own. The religion was hijacked by Rome, the Gospel was broken up scrambled adulterated into a bunch of competing narratives. Later four of those adulterated gospels were canonized with falsely ascribed authorship and a Gnosticism cover-story. It was the finding of an original Gospel of Jesus scroll in Jerusalem that gained the Knights Templar power over the Church and their eventual undoing when the church finally retaliated against them Friday 13th.
@@termination9353 nonsense.
Crazy thing about Paul and his contributions to the book: Much of his material comes from his letters. Unfortunately these correspondences are parts of a chain of conversation back and forth. We don't have all the letters in this discussion. Neither did the bible's compilers. So, it's like catching parts of a phone call where you can only hear one side and only bits of that. Then building a huge chunk of a religion on those snatches of one side of a conversation.
Good analogy.. unfortunately it doesn't work in this situation. His letters are in fact commands from Jesus as he points out. Knowing what or how the church responded to those letters changes absolutely nothing of the commands. We don't even need to know what their response was. All we Need to know is that Jesus spoke and used Paul to deliver the message
@@chrisanok9283 We don't have all the letters from paul, nor even complete letters from paul. And we can only assume that he was passing on actual commands. Neither can we be completely certain what letters were counterfeit. Then the compilers made their own calls. It's a game of Telephone from 2000 years ago. Peace out.
@@Halloween111 the Gospels were kept via oral tradition from roughly Jesus’ death to the 50s CE. They began to be written down in various pieces starting in the 40s CE until around the 70s CE (the Gospels were not the first time anything was written down. They got their sources from somewhere, explained more later). The Gospels were then written down as full complete narratives of Jesus’ life in the 60s CE to about 95CE. By about 150CE, the four gospels we read today were agreed to be included as the canon, but it was not until about 370CE that the full New Testament we read today was finally canonized.
@@Halloween111 Furthermore, analysis of Matthew and Luke has led scholars to conclude that they include material from another source, that has come to be called "Q". This book apparently was a collection of quotes from Jesus: excerpts from his sermons and catchy statements that he made. So two of the writers used an older source, even closer to the time of the original events.
@@Halloween111 They weren't written all that long after Jesus died. While scholars debate the exact dates, the four gospels were all written somewhere between AD 60 and AD 95. That is, within 60 years of Jesus's death at the most.
Two of the Gospel writers, Matthew and John, were disciples of Jesus and knew him personally. So as elderly or old men they sat down and wrote their biographies from first-hand knowledge. Mark was a translator for Peter, and Peter was another of Jesus's disciples, so Mark wrote based on what Peter told him. (Some speculate that Mark was an eye-witness to at least some of the events in his Gospel.) Luke was an educated man and approached the role as an historian. He interviewed friends and family of Jesus to write his book.
Just a couple of observations from the point of view of a former Anglican priest and theologian. While I agree in general with your comments, some further biblical scholarship might help here. For example, most scholars don't think that Paul wrote the letters to Timothy, and the authorship of Ephesians is a bit doubtful. John's gospel was written long after Paul was dead, so you probably can't use that as an example of how Paul contradicts Jesus. There's probably not much in John's gospel that can actually be attributed to Jesus, although some would try to argue that there is, of course. When I was in theological college and afterwards, we would always refer to 'Pauline Christianity' as something distinct from what was in the synoptic gospels, because it was generally recognised that Paul's teaching was different.
Thank you for your video! As a newly saved soul I started reading the bible. And once I read the four gospels and started the letters of Paul I started to notice a change in teachings. I felt wrong reading the letters of Paul. Paul seems very sexists, and he does elevate himself throughout the letters. From the research I've done Paul started the Christian organized religion. Jesus was never about that. He preached outside to everyone who would come. Everytime Jesus taught in a synagogue or religious building he was thrown out. Organized religion is against Jesus. There is a difference in being a follower of Christ, and belonging to a Christian organized church. I know which one I am. Praise God.
And the elect may have been Jesus's apostles. Paul even fooled them.
thanks for your videos. I came out of a sort of cult, and I am still in the "what if I'm wrong" phase, but your videos really help.
You're not. But even if you are, that doesn't make Christians (or any other religious group) right. So if you're glum about not going to heaven, take comfort in the knowledge that they aren't either.
Keep praying, ask the Lord to guide younto the truth. We might be wrong, but the Lord is never wrong.
This video will not help any one . She does not understand the basics. Paul was the Apostle to the non-Jews (gentiles ). He had been a pharisee therefore would once have been married ,so was referring to widowers . The Apostles called his writings scripture .
FIND SOME MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE TEACHERS .Such as traditional Baptists . I am not one, but most Christians have the same basic teaching about 1 . The word of God that is inspiration 2. The way of salvation . 3. The person of Jesus as the only begotten son of God . Try Paul Washer .on the gospel .Avoid the Pentecostal Word of Faith movement that teaches they are gods.
@@wendymitchell8245that was my 1st thought when listening...her basic knowledge is shocking.....she would be destroyed in a debate against any layman in bible studies....Paul contradicted jesus is such an old argument...
This video is one of the most nonsensical videos I’ve ever watched.
i think it's a good bet that in actual fact, Paul was actually suffering from a frontal lobe seizure, maybe brought on from looking directly at the Sun on the road to Damascus, it would explain his temporary blindness, and his halluncinations, and change of personality, if Paul was around today, a medical team would almost certainly diagnose him with a fairly well known brain ailment that caused him to believe he had a vision. Great video Kristi, I'm so glad i found you and subscribed. Exellent stuff. Watching from the UK.
I've heard that theory. I think it's a good one to consider!
According to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders: DSM-IV, women are 200% more likely to experience conversion psychosis. Paul doesn’t really fit the bill. Furthermore, researchers have estimated the number of patients with ongoing symptoms of conversion disorder to be 2 to 5 individuals per every 100,000 patients per year. Given the rarity of the condition, we would need strong evidence to demonstrate that this is really the case.
The speculation of the epileptic seizure. The problem with this theory is that complex visual hallucinations related to epilepsy are incredibly rare in adults. Adults who are affected by these things typically experience them as children first. The age of onset for epilepsy is generally either in childhood or from the age 60 onwards. Paul would’ve been outside of these age ranges.
Furthermore, adults and children who hallucinate during seizures are in the minority. It’s critical to differentiate between things like blindness, flashing lights, and foggy vision from things like hallucinating a talking person. Some medical literature calls both of those things hallucinations, but clearly the latter is much less common than the former. In other words, we’re talking about a rare symptom of a rare disorder presenting at an anomalous age. In addition, the specificity of the apostle Paul’s vision doesn’t match typical hallucinations which tend to be far more random. In the case of Paul, he saw the despised Jesus, in glory, rebuking and commissioning him.
Also, Paul’s temporary blindness was also unlikely to be related to epilepsy. This is because ictal blindness is most often observed in children and is very rare in adults unless they have symptomatic epilepsy, where the cause is known. That is not accounted for in the biblical story, and it would not last for three days.
Moreover, severe bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, psychotic breaks, and so forth seem incompatible with a well-educated, intelligent person in a leadership position traveling throughout the Greco-Roman world, planting churches.
Preacher "types" have been faking divine encounters for centuries prior to biblical times. Why would Paul be any different? Just sayin. If it happened for real, then religion is still a mess. If it didn't happen, a huge portion of humanity has been (& will continue to be) "duped" purposefully. To do harm. I bet even Paul/Saul (whatever) had no clue his grift would gain as much traction for as long as it did or ruin earth's potential for a beautiful history the way it has. Harm, wars, evil, greed. Hood going Paul.... #F-thatGuy
The blindness story is Luke’s, not Paul’s. Paul wrote only that Jesus appeared to him, the same way Jesus appeared to Peter, etc.
Luke embellished the story significantly.
Those mentioned in the qur'an could just as easily have been referring to Paul when they pointed out, "you follow nought but madmen and liars".
I heard some doctor on a radio programme saying that they were pretty confident in being able to diagnose, if not exactly what happened to Saul/Paul, but a ballpark type of seizure.
Paul supports every type of oppression that can possibly exist... I don't know how they can quote such a person ALL THE TIME.
If we love Jesus the host came us their dwelling place. It's a unit. It's very Holy. Xx
Jesus was not saying that everyone should be married. Context. We have to consider other verses where Jesus encouraged celibacy..."some make themselves Eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven". Thats same thing that Paul was saying. Jesus and Paul expressed the value of celibacy...but they both promoted marriage for the masses.
Bingo. You have proven you have more sense than Kristi through one meager observation. Well done.
Jesus didn't encourage celibacy. His comments about Eunuchs was in response to his disciples saying it was better not to marry after he talked to them about a spiritual view of divorce. He actually made the comment about Eunuchs to dissuade his disciples from considering not getting married.
@@tobibabs7725 read the passage. The eunuch passage...the eoned who make themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of God...that was a nod for those who make themselves celibate to pursue Gods kingdom.
Like he said...most won't get it.
@@tobibabs7725 you missing Jesus point so clearly. It's right there.
Just because Jesus acknowledged that humans were practicing something does not mean he gives it a nod. It's just a recognition the practice of making oneself a eunuch exists. You can acknowledge the existence of a thing without giving it a nod.
If you want to start understanding Paul, one good option is the books by PHd. James Tabor. They are a must-read!
He has several videos on youtube. I've watched many of them.
@johntiggleman4686 Yes, that too. He has a website you can access with many resources, great scholarship!
Paul always reminded me of men who demand admiration while treating everyone with contempt.
When Jesus said "It is finished," that was the end, period. There was no more dialogue, no more words that needed to be said. Paul adds to the already completed Gospels. And, YES, the Gospels predate Paul because there is no way established churches were in place unless the Gospels existed as the root. The fact majority of Christian "scholars" claim Paul's works are older than the Gospels is disgusting and offensive. Paul was a false prophet and it is clear even to me, an agnostic, that that Christians are much more influenced by Paul than Jesus because of it.
I've been on a huge tirade about Paul to my friends and co workers and pretty much anyone who will listen for the past 3 weeks now and realizing how much modern Christians follow this man but claim to follow Jesus has really given me a mind shattering disillusionment, I've since crossed a threshold and i can't go back now. Great content as always and would love to hear you dive deep into Paul sometime soon!
I want to get more knowledge so I'm able to go on tirades like you that's so cool
@@amelialalllalala3914 just keep being a truth seeker and you'll get there in no time!
amelialalllalala3914 - More knowledge is always good! I posted a long eval of Kristi’s video. There are so many misleading statements that I had to do it in two parts. I encourage you to read it. Forgive me but Kristi is either speaking without knowledge or is intentionally misleading people.
@@ianalan4367 Nah
Bart Ehrman has recently produced a series where he discusses Paul in-depth, contrasting him to Jesus. James Tabor also talks a bit about Paul
The fact that Paul's church evolved into the Catholic church should be evidence enough that Paul had his head up his butt😂
But I thought the Roman Catholics based it on Peter ("Upon this rock [Cephas, or "Peter"] I will build my church). Thereby claiming Peter as the first Pope. I sat through a 7 night course on the New Testament back in the 1980s by Ray VanderLaan (who has traveled to The Holy Land) and did a ton of research. I seem to recall his opinion was it was NOT Peter Jesus was referring to. I wish I had kept all the documentation we were given at the course.
@johntiggleman4686 Yes, your probably right. It's been awhile since I read about it. If we're honest,though,the Catholic Church worships money and power, and it is a moot point who they pretend to think was right.
There is no biblical or historical evidence for the claims of the roman Catholic Church that Peter was the first pope. And there’s no evidence that there even was a pope in the first century
Roman Catholics don’t claim what you just said. They cite Peter as the first pope.
@@bell5309 Yet, they follow the teachings of Paul not Peter. LOL! That's funny. Thank you. God bless.
great vid!!!!!!
Some individuals state that the Apostle Paul’s teachings had no bases since Jesus didn’t teach what Paul spoke about in him. It was Paul who deified Jesus. Paul nullified the Law as circumcision and eating of uncleaned food. Paul started churches instead of synagogues. He was one who made a distinction between Jews and Gentiles.
As to the assertion that Jesus never claimed to be God, here is something for one to consider. Jesus declared that he is the Lord of the Sabbath. Since the Sabbath was established by God, no man can say that he is the Lord of the Sabbath. That would be consider blasphemy and yet Jesus made that assertion. If he was not God, he can’t say that he is the Lord of the Sabbath. Jesus appearance on earth was not to prove his deity but to redeem mankind. In his humility as man, one can see/perceive that he was more than a man. He states that whatever the Father is doing, he does exactly what the Father wants. What man can say that? He states that he has ascended and descended from heaven? What man can say that? Paul recognized that Jesus is God for Stephen testified that he saw Jesus at the right hand of God. The Apostle Paul can not deify anyone who is not already God. That would be heresy if Jesus was not God. I can go on but one if reads the Gospel, the Apostle Paul didn’t exceed the teachings of Jesus.