Watched **PAN'S LABYRINTH** for the first time, not knowing it's rated-R
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
- Idk if it's the language, the actors' voices, or both, but the dialogue was so pleasant to listen to
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Everybody remembers the monsters, but the deep mental scars of watching someone beat a boy's face in with a pistol and then using that pistol to shoot the grieving father will forever be burnt into my mind.
Oh, no, no, no, my friend. He bashed the boy's face in with a wine bottle. That scene still makes me cringe.
@@mokko759 Why? It's set in the 40's. Bottles of the time didn't break easily, since they were reused. The throwaway stuff is kinda modern. I still have some at home I use as water bottles every day for meals. They are HEAVY, and thick. You'd easily beat somebody to death with them.
@@k.v.7681 You misunderstand.
I cringe because I KNOW how durable and heavy those wine bottles are.
It's not a " Pfft! Yeah, right, like you can do that with a bottle." sarcastic cringe.
It's a " Oh, fuck! Oh, no! AUGH! NO!" Abject horror cringe.
@@mokko759 Oh alright then x). Proper use of cringe then. It gets used quite a lot in the other way on the internet, so I assumed x) Sorry
What I find interesting about the scene is that the violence hits harder because the camera frames the murder from the victim's perspective rather than the perpetrator's. The audience is unable to enjoy the violence and feel powerful like such an act would be framed in other films that grapple with fascism and is left with the brutality and senselessness of Captain Vidal's violence.
The symbolism in this film is incredible--the ovaries and the faun as continuous symbols of life and rebirth, the pale man who can only see what he desires/reaches for, war functioning as the death of innocence. I could talk about it for hours.
Omg feel free to share any ideas you have, I have to write an essay for my Spanish A-level on Tuesday!!
@@anniemcmahon6778 Haha!! Lol me too, next week!! I hope your essay went well btw x
@@Essiebella good luck!!!
YOU'RE A LOSER.
Children in fables or fairytales make mistakes and come to a good end despite the mistakes or make mistakes and pay the price, but all children make mistakes. We all are given the choice to be a Fascist Princess or under the head of this world, which is Allah, or to cling to the Son and be a child of Yahweh. and she choose correct. Heavens and Earth shall come to pass away, My Word shall come to pass.
“He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose.” ― Jim Elliot
the faun is almost all practical effects and prosthetics (you can find pictures online) I think just the legs have been edited digitally to take away the shins which would stick out of the fake legs. He's played by this AMAZING actor called Doug Jones who also plays the pale man in this movie and the fish-man in The shape of water. (look him up, he really is amazing and plays a lot of creatures in Hollywood films)
Yes! I love Doug Jones, It's crazy how many famous roles he's played as yet no one really knows his face or name.
@@blahblahblah02 absolutely!!! he really should get more recognition for all his amazing work
He was also the zombie man in Hocus Pocus
He also played Sapien in "Hellboy" (the version of Del Toro)
Recently he's been playing one of the main characters in Star Trek: Discovery.
I remember reading somewhere that in that particular Spanish civil war there was a great famine. Food was scarce and the little that they had was not the best-tasting thing in the world. Since the war, many delicacies like fruits were a pretty rare luxury. The banquet itself is made to present the favorite food of the children that entered, tempting them to try even the tiniest thing. I'm sure Ophelia couldn't help herself because of how sweetness is a flavor she hadn't tasted in a while.
I loved your reaction, Mercedes lullaby at the end always tears me up.
Many fans have theories on the ending if Ophelia hallucinated the whole time or not, but I think it's real since the Captian picked the chalk before he was drugged.
My interpretation is the fairy world is her imagination (not an hallucination). It's her escape from the cruel world she is stuck in as happens with some abused children as a defense mechanism. To me this makes the story that much sadder.
I love how the movie can go both ways, since there is evidence that its real and also that's its not. In the end you need to remember, The captain is the one who was drugged and therefore his view of reality wasn't the best
I myself think more that all the fairies and the faun are her imagination, but I still am hesitating about that.
My biggest reason why I am for the imagination is the ending. There you can see how the captain (who's name I forgot) creeps up to her and the faun should see him but he doesn't warn her even though he is her servant and is supposed to help her to survive. But she doesn't see the captain, so the faun cannot warn her and that is why he doesn't warn her or more he can't warn her.
If everything is her imagination then the only possible reason why the captain finds the chalk is because it indeed exists but has no magical power. Still I hesitate a little bit about that because it is supposed to be the reason why she later escapes out of the locked room. If she doesn't use the chalk to escape, how does she escape from a locked room through her imagination? My theory is that there is a secret passage way. Do you remember the question in the reaction why she draws such a small door? I think that it is a secret passage way that she finds in her adventure to the pale man and uses to escape out of the room but I didn't watch the movie, so I can't really say.
It would absolutely make it more tragic if the fairytale world was just her escape from the bleakness of her reality.
In Germany in the trailer there is one line that makes me really sad "The evil bows to the power of innocence." Obviously they mean the girl but if you think back then you realize that she doesn't accomplish anything. She doesn't save her mother or brother and doesn't stop her father. She simply dies without being of help but acting inside a fantasy world. It's sad that everything has only been a beautiful dream, but it is even sadder to realize that in fact you are useless.
The temptation of eating food in a mythical land is a common old fairytale trope. If you've seen Spirited Away, its a similar thing that happens with the parents. I always see people asking why she ate the grapes, its not necessarily stupidity, the magical food is specifically there to tempt and trap humans.
I think one of the earliest versions was the tale of Hades and Persephone in Greek Mythology. Hades had kidnapped her but was forced to return her as long as she didn't eat anything, but because she ate three seeds of a pomegranate, she had to spend three months a year in the Underworld (which is why there's winter).
@@SuddenReal Ah thanks! Very interesting
in Pan's labyrinth specifically, Ofelia had just been sent to bed without eating. Giving her a good reason to be tempted here.
It's the idea of taking something of that world into you. Folklore is filled with symbolism and associative magic, e.g. the mandrake is a human form, in a vessel (bowl/womb) being nurtured by milk and blood (mother's milk and directly linked to the mother's blood while in the womb).
Well besides all simbolics the truth is the time in the movie is in the Franco's spain, in that time in spain the people cant imagine eating fruits and barely can eat bread.
Del Toro's visual prowess is in full effect in this movie. I don't think the movie is half as poignant without his creature designs.
The behind the scenes of this movie and watching the practical effects and the amazing people that brought those characters to life is so amazing!
Everything except the CGI looks good.
I remember an explosion in particular that looked horrible.
@@youcaughtmecrafting ⁰⁰
Creative? Wtf are you smoking?
When I watched this movie when I was little, I was absolutely TERRIFIED of the pale man
I can't believe so many people watched this as kids 😂 this movie would've terrified me too
when i watched this as a teenager i was absolutely TERRIFIED of the pale man.
I was, am, and forever will be TERRIFIED of the pale man.
I literally see you in every comment section lmao
@@SophiaPhannn I watched this in my late 20's and it ABSOLUTELY SCARED the crap out of me!! 😱😱 (yeah I'm easily scared) The pale man traumatized me for days 😨
Wait till del Toro's adaptation of Pinocchio comes out, if it's anything as bizarre and dark as this movie.....just, YES.
YES!!
Am I a real boy Papa?
that's gonna be interesting
He was originally given The Hobbit trilogy as well. I can't help but think he'd have done a much better job of it.
He was supposed to make a version of H P Lovecraft's "At the Mountains of Madness" . I would have loved to have seen that.
Something neat Del Toro did with this film: the supernatural realms Ofelia goes to are always bathed in gold, and the real world has a blue hue. At the end, with the bombs exploding behind Ofelia, it's supposed to represent the merging of the two realities.
how were you all watching this as kids? do you guys need hugs
As scary as I thought it was I still loved it as a kid. The ending always made me cry.
We were kids when it came out im guessing :)
@@yukikanegawa7470 the best fairytales are a bit scary
i just found out from the title that its not a kids movie.. idk but i never thought of it as a scary movie? maybe cause the main character is a little girl
When you're a kid watching these kinds of messed up movies all the crazy stuff just goes over your head and all you see is a fantasy world. As a kid I watched horrors, movies with nudity, etc. I never thought anything of it, my young mind couldn't grasp deep and/or disturbing meanings like I can as an adult.
Good for you noticing the female anatomy imagery throughout the film!! I noticed the blood part in the book but I never put two and two together with the faun until I saw some behind the scenes things. Even the movie poster is referencing it. Also, this film has a brother!! It's lesser known called Devil's Backbone and is sort of the "male" companion to this film. More gothic horror than fantasy. Both films are about the abusive affects of war and corruption of power on children. Devil's Backbone too place during the Spanish Civil War while this film took place a few short years afterwards. Del Toro called Pan's Labyrinth the "spiritual successor" to Devil's Backbone so, reaction video or no, if you like this film, Highly recommend checking out the Devil's Backbone
Yeah, there's even a scene where we see some dead rebels and Del Toro confirmed they were the main characters that survived Devil's Backbone. Just a depressing spiral that never ended
@@m.n.2971 I didn't know that!!! Thank you!! that makes so much sense
Yes! The Devil's Backbone is my favorite Del Toro movie, that keyhole scene gave me nightmares for days lmao
Watching this as a child I had nightmares about the stuttering scene for years. I have no idea why but the struggle of the man to not stutter and save his own life was insanely stressful for me.
Fun fact about the movie: according to del Torro himself, the pale man is meant to represent a Catholic priest since he preys on children while having something more conventional right in front of him.
Daang. Creepy.
Morbid and I've never thought about it like that before. That's interesting.
cool, however that does not disprove Catholicism , it just proves that some priest are evil. I am not catholic by the way, I just think that your statement indicates more of what you actually want to illustrate.
@@davidresendiz7989 Thankfully religions disprove themselves. They're plagues on this planet.
@@ErinDionysusBee How do they disprove themselves that is super interesting?
"I was not expecting that to be so graphic, I'm kind of shocked" Yeah that was pretty much my reaction to the whole movie-
I get so shock when I realised I was understanding every single word of the actors without reading the subtitles and then my brain was like "You speak spanish stupid" haha
I met Doug Jones who played the pale man and he’s the nicest celebrity I’ve ever met in my entire life
He's also Pan (Who del torro said he named Pan but isn't actually Pan but the movie is "Pan's labyrinth" so it sounds like del torro was just high as shit) but yeah. Met the guy at a comic con once and he's cool as hell. Had one of the longest lines because he was taking a lot of time to talk to fans instead of just signing stuff and moving on.
@@zimvader25 pretty sure it’s just the “Faun,” bc it’s the Labyrinth of the Faun in Spanish. He complained that marketing is what changed the name, to better appeal to English audiences.
Didn't he also play one of The Gentlemen in Buffy?
@@zimvader25 Es del Toro, no Torro
This movie gave me nightmares as a kid, especially the scene with the pale man with eye hands. I don’t know why my family thought this movie was appropriate for some kids to watch, but it’s still such a good movie.
It was advertised as a fantasy movie. they really didn't show that it wasn't for kids.
my school showed this movie to us (^:
@@Lazrael32 yeah but the rating should've been a dead give away that it's not quite for 'kids'. In Canada, it's rated 14A, which is pretty much the equivalent to rated R since a lot of the movies rated R in some places, get a 14A in Canada. I watched this in the theatre with my family and my dad picked it. He probably didn't think much as to why it was rated that and not PG so, we were sorta convinced it's like a family film. 🤦♀️
@@RitsychServare In my country it was rated -12 (ratings are -10, -12, -16 and -18, each to the corresponding age)
Saaaame! For weeks after we watched it and knowing it scared me, my dad would put his hands to his eyes and pretend to be the pale man to scare me. 😂😂 Good times
Everyone remembers the pale man, but what haunted me more was Ofelia's death. It made me cry so much that I totally forgot she did actually return to the underworld.
7:36 Soy.... W I G G L E W I G G L E W I G G L E
This movie is just incredible.
The Makeup Artist team actually got an Oscar for their amazing work.
And the fact we'll never really know if it was true or if it was just her imagination...
It doesn’t matter really. If the scene at the end is what she saw,even if just in her mind it was real for her. Perception is reality.
when this movie came out and I was 9 years old, our parents rented it for movie night. Us kids complained about the R rating, having rarely seen PG-13, but my dad insisted that it was a "fairy tale" movie. Went smoothly enough up until the captain killed the farmer and his son, which is when we all started screaming and demanding it be turned off. I only just now watched the rest because of you making this video. That scene was just as bad as i remembered lol
Same. My dad told us (grown up children lol) that we're gonna watch this film at the movie theatre for our monthly family movie night and we did NOT see any of this coming! After the movie when we discussed what we just watched, my Dad said 'well, it's 14A so... should be fine' 😬
Reminds me of my dad making 10 y/o me and my 2 y/o brother watch Tusk. It's the only "normal" (outside of disgusting movies like a serbian film) I cannot watch. I'm still not over the ending.
I was 11 when my parents showed me The Pianist. Nothing wakes you up to the cruel realities of the real world like a true story holocaust movie with no fantasy to distract from the absolute pits of depravity man is capable of. I think it’s definitely led me to both feeling the horror of the world around us on a deeper more personal level than most, while also giving me a stronger stomach for all kinds of messed up scenes in movies thereafter. Don’t know if it was worth it but at least I know how horrible fascism is
Pan’s Labyrinth is a technically better film (I haven’t seen it but I know many people who like it) but Labyrinth is a cult classic and very entertaining for totally different reasons. They’re not comparable. Watch both!!!
Sophia: "Which Labyrinth movie do you guys like better?"
Me: *"YeS"*
But seriously, please watch David Bowie's Labyrinth as well, you won't regret it!
Got that 80's vibe we all love so much!! 😁👍👍👍
JARETH IS BAE
could not have a better answer.
It has a puppet dog riding a real one! Errr. Spoiler alert.
@@sfodd1979 "Ha..! Surrender! We got you completely surrounded!"
Yup, rated R and so innocuous in appearance that I was even able to convince my mom to see it with me when it came out. She still curses me out for taking her to see it, she hates gore too.
There's something to be said for a really despicable bad-guy, antagonist, whatever. That's probably what Guillermo del Toro succeeds at most in this film, to me at least: how to create a monster. There are many obstacles, dangerous creatures and deadly scenarios in this film for Ophelia to overcome, yes, but none of them really come across as 'evil' in the strictest sense of the word. The frog is an animal, more or less, consuming to survive and not really having any goals beyond that. The doctor and the soldiers certainly have a level of agency beyond simply 'following orders', but again, not necessarily evil. Even the Pale Man is, as someone already pointed out I'm sure, driven by instinct, to prey upon the innocent and the young, not because he doesn't have any other options, but because he has no conscience and very little soul to corrupt in the first place (I would argue that this creature is almost pitiable, since by it's own nature, it's hunger cannot be sated by anything except children, even though a feast sits before it in perpetuity).
But Captain Vidal...this Motherf*cker is something special. The casual racism/sexism/xenophobia/fascism aside, this guy seems almost aroused by all of the evil he wallows in. Not maniacal 'ha ha ha I'm so dastardly' evil; he doesn't need to be. All he needs in order to be effective is to be patient, observant, methodical and unflinching in the execution of his 'duty'. But above all that, this guy has a few qualities that make him a lot like Judge Frollo from Hunchback of Notre Dame (the 1996 film): he BELIEVES that he's not only justified, but almost sanctified in his actions. His dedication is almost priest-like, except in this case it is less that he believes himself to be spiritually guided and more that his rank, his position within the government, his gender and his family name give him all the justification he needs to do the most horrible things imaginable. I've seen him compared to Hans Landa from Inglourious Basterds, but in that film, Christoph Waltz plays his 'bastard' as a more slimy, refined, almost enthusiastic and ecstatically engaging a**hole. Her, Vidal is more suspicious, brooding and ill-tempered, like a school-master who really enjoys the part of his day that involves beating children. But his zealotry is almost on par with religious fervor, to the point where even his injuries--rather than slow him down and give him pause over his actions--actually galvanize him into further action, his atrocities and murderous intent turned up to eleven. His conviction, his near (non)religious fanaticism, it's his greatest ally and his only needed justification by the end of the film. At some point I hope you get a chance to watch 'Firefly' on here, because (aside from it being a wonderful bit of sci-fi) that series has a great line in it that fits this situation; 'Nothing worse than a monster who thinks he's right with God.' Vidal may not be a frothing-at-the-mouth bible thumping nut, but he doesn't need to be in order to facilitate the roll of villainous monster in this film.
By the way, the actor, Sergi López? He almost didn't get the role of Captain Vidal, which would have been a shame, because his dramatic and bad-guy roles are GREAT in almost everything he does. I was actually introduced to him in an earlier film called 'Dirty, Pretty Things' from 2002...and he's really easy to hate, but for different reasons, in that film as well. It's a tough watch in places, not unlike Pan's Labyrinth, but the modern day, real-world setting just makes the story/conflict more visceral and Sergi's character all the more fun to hate. I highly recommend it.
Great vid, as per usual. :-)
The faun is also entirely practical except for a portion of the legs that was edited out to mask the actors legs
One of my fav movies. You should watch The Orphanage or Julia's Eyes. It'd be interesting
Yes yes YESSS! I LOVE IT! And makes me cry every time
I like the Orphanage, but Julia's Eyes... not so good in my opinion.
@@Mibok omg. I read so fast that I didnt see the second movie she mentioned. Julia's Eyes is my guilty pleasure
I love The Orphanage
The Orphanage DESTROYED ME
What I love about this movie is it never makes it clear whether Ofelia was simply using her imagination, as a means of escaping the horrors of the real world, through the fantasy stories she read (which I personally think was the directors intent, the ending could be just her soul passing to a higher realm, through her preferred lens of perception-fantasy), or if the fantasy elements of the story were supposed to be taken as literal parts of the story, it was billed as a fantasy story, after all. I'd be interested if del Toro ever commented on this, though I bet he didn't. It would be smart not to, like I said the cool thing about this movie, is it's made in a way, where it's hard to say which was the director's original intention, making both interpretations correct, great flick!
I remember he said at some point that it was up to you deciding the ending 😱
I laughed at the “wiggle” edit for wayyyy too long lmfao
"Is the narrator her brother?" Holy shit, you made this movie better! :D
This is a movie that definitely benefits from multiple viewings. You’ll pick up on even more symbolism. I love the way the fantasy world mirrors the really world, like the significance of a key in both worlds. If you get a chance, I highly recommend all the behind-the-scenes videos for this movie. Del Toro is an incredibly detailed filmmaker and it’s fascinating to listen to all the meaning he put into it. (Just watching your video I realized for the first time that he visually references his fellow Mexican director Alfonso Cuarón’s child fantasy movie A Little Princess.)
I cried so hard when I watched this film, I'm impressed that you didn't. Also, as with The Shape of Water, the worst monster is the human...
I cried watching this video :/
are you sure it isn't the baby eater? I'm pretty sure its the baby eater.
@@alexsclewis Maybe I should have said "scariest".
She didn't cry like we did because at the end she interpreted the fantasy elements to be real. You (I'm presuming) and I both know that really it was all in Ofelia's imagination. We cried at the end because what we saw was not Ofelia escaping to live in a magical world, but the last moments of a girl's escapist fantasy playing out in her mind before her death.
It's hard for the worst monster to be anything BUT the human when your setting is a conflict where one side are literally fascists. I feel like too many people forget what the spanish civil war was about and how it ended in utter disaster and a decades long brutal dictatorship. That is scarier than any fantasy or horror creature.
I first saw this movie in my high school Spanish class. Loved it!
It’s dark which I don’t often like, but it mix’s that with tons of fantasy elements
The way I saw it, none of the supernatural stuff actually happened. It was just her way of dissociating/escaping from the horrible living situation she was in. Would you say your interpretation was different?
I had the same thought cross my mind too! But I'd like to believe that it was magical 😅 especially since she was able to leave her room with the chalk
I tend to think the supernatural bits did happen, but also it doesn't matter whether they happened, if you see what I mean. The fantastical elements do pretty clearly mirror the real life stuff a lot of the time - like Ofelia's tasks being similar to Mercedes' actions for the resistance, or the way the captain kills the doctor and the mandrake (the 'real life' and 'supernatural' sources of medical help for the mother) at the same time - so the way is definitely open to say this is a child interpreting her situation through the fairytales she loves.
But since it's a movie, and not one about real historical people, it also seems too simple to just say it's all in her imagination. It's a fantasy story that is allegorical of life in Franco's Spain, but it doesn't need to have a 'real' story to explain it. It's both at once, cos it's a movie. Even though we know there's no real fauns or Pale Men in real life, they are really up there on screen, really being part of the story.
Sorry for all the words, I just really like this film.
I think I remember loving the ambiguity of it, and then I read this interview where he said “Del Toro: Yes, of course. And it's intimate. If the movie works as a piece of storytelling, as a piece of artistic creation, it should tell something different to everyone. It should be a matter of personal discussion. Now objectively, the way I structured it, there are three clues in the movie that tell you where I stand. I stand in that it's real. The most important clues are the flower at the end, and the fact that there's no way other than the chalk door to get from the attic to the Captain's office.”
But then how did she foretell her mom's uterus bleeding?
@@sabalos That's the beatiful thing about this story. Both approaches are equally valid.
You were right about Alice in Wonderland! - Guillermo del Toro said that he based a lot of his clothing choices for Ofelia on the Grimm brother's fairytales
This is one of my favourite movies!!! Probably I was ten years old when it came out, but I never found it too violent or scary. Now that I'm older I really appreciate they went for the R instead of PG-13, I think that adds a little more to the historical context of Spain and Francisco Franco's regime.
P.S. I read the description and I agree, I think is the voices.
If this isn't too violent, you are probably a sociopath because this was one of the most violent things ever filmed. I won't even watch the movie because the Gen Z weirdo chick just made it obvious that this is nothing but gore porn for those who enjoy being desensitized and lack empathy for other humans.
I watched this when I was like 8, my mom looked at the cover and assumed it was a children’s movie and bought it for me, needles to day I was terrified. It’s one of my favorite films now though.
That scene where she cut his jaw was absolutely brutal
Brutal, but BRILLIANT🙌🏼
The wine-bottle murder is still a scene that I can't watch. I skip it to watch the film.
I have a feeling that many fairy-tales got their start as explanations for the deaths or disappearances of children in centuries past.
I remember my mom rented that film when my brother and I were children for movie night. i must have been maybe eleven or twelve, around Ofelia's age. She watched it first and told me that she tought that it was important for me to watch it but that it was kinda crude, that she would be skipping some scenes. So me and her watched it together (my brother was too young still) and i loved it so much that we rented it often after that, I even got to see it with all the gorey scenes. My mom was an amazing woman and whenever i see the movie i see her in Ofelia's mom and in the spy lady. This movie is very meaningful to me and im glad you ejoyed it! Also Gillermo del Toro rocks, he makes me proud of being mexican.
The Devil's Backbone is another Del Toro film set in the Spanish civil war that is overlooked, which I love more than this.
This movie terrified me when I was younger, and my parents used to watch it all the time. My. parents used to scare me by putting their hands over their eyes pretending to be the scary thing in the movie.
Ok, Spanish here and mythology nerd, never, NEVER trust a Fey, that includes: elfs, fauns, fairys, goblins (They arent goblins, but there inst a word in english in spanish is trasgo), ents are ok, cause they dont do much, unicorns, never if you are a male or a non-virgin woman, ogres and similar just want to munch you so nope, and thats mostly is all, there are alot of fey, but never trust any fey that tryes to be nice, the fey that just much you are much more strightfoward, also, the pale man is a demon, so he doesnt falls in this category, demons are just chaos in spanish myths
Can you elaborate on what the pale man IS? Is there any more mythology out their on whatever he is based off of?
@@cobblegen1204 paleman was symbolic for fascism along with the Captain, the paleman is also the representation of the capimtain in the fantasy world
tell me more 🤩
@@kupaakaleo137 Ok, here is an example, imagine you are in the king of the feys court and he did you a favor, then you need to give him something in return, so lets asume you give him your thanks, then your welcome, you can never say thanks againg, cause you gave them to the king, another example would be tinkerbell in peter pan, if we were going to be realistic, tinkerbell would have found funny to kill the kids, but not directly, just undirectly, leading them to traps to suffer a slow painful death
there's a theory that everything that's happening with Ophelia is just a figment of her imagination tyring to escape the harsh reality surrounding her. She has been reading too many fantasy books that she becomes dettached from the reality sometimes due to her traumatic environment. The captain couldn't see Pan at the end indicates that maybe it's not even there. She died and went to the Kingdom but actually she died and her last imagination was to be a princess in the kingdom.
If that were true, I don't see how the scenes with the mandrake and the chalk (near the end) make sense.
@@KD-xb5np this is from my understanding, other than Ophelia, they can’t see the mandrake moves. What they see, is some kind of root thingy soaked in milk. For them it’s ridiculous hence the burning. We know the mother was already sick. The timing of the mandrake burning and the mom hurting was coincidental. And for the chalk, we can assume that she actually finds a way out by sneaking out through the window or something but Ophelia believes in the chalk that’s why she bring it with her
@@eceheceheceh That seems way too coincidental. I'm with del Toro, I think it's real!
The director confirmed that everything was real.
The ultimate lazy ending is just "everything was imaginary" so no, it's incredibly sad that your imagination is so small
This movie literally gave me nightmares for a few years. Now that I'm older I do realize all of its merits, but still, childhood nightmares
I've watched Pan's Labyrinth on DVD so many times over and yet, it has ALWAYS left me awestruck...and a little scared; particularly during the Pale Man scene.
Speaking of which; long ago, Guillermo held a private screening of the movie for Stephen King to see. After watching the scene featuring the Pale Man for the first time, he actually felt terrified
This movie is definitely open for interpretation. So no worries for how you saw it.
I think the most common and widely accepted theory or way to see it is that the magical stuff did also happen, because we see her in the magical realm at the end, with the king and queen. Kinda like Alice In Wonderland. It possibly happened but can also be seen as not real. Depends on your personal perspective, like glass half full or empty people haha. Great reaction as always. 😊💜💚💙🙌🏻
13:36."Interesting that the shape of the ovaries matches the faun's head.". Nice spot. Didn't notice that before
4:54 That is true, here in my city (Saltillo Coahuila, Mexico) there is a house from the colonial era that they turned into a museum and if you stay still in a room you can hear how the wood "growls", although there is no one else nearby or they are on the floor that is not made of wood and that in broad daylight, I can't imagine what it will be like at night.
I think it's worth mentioning that that backdrop isn't just "a war" but the Spanish Civil War that led to the rise of Fascism in Spain.
Also, because Spain was neutral, that meant Franco and his regime stayed in power for decades. (From 1939 to 1975)
This led to Mexico accepting a lot refugees (Including people like my Grandfather).
Both of Guillermo's parents were Spanish refugees who fled to Mexico.
So this is really him trying to put a light on it.
Yeah my great uncle went to go fight in the war....for Franco he even went to fight for Germany in the blue division and fought the Soviets apparently he was a pretty ardent Fascist not the best moment for my family history. Then my maternal side which is Italian were split some were partisan and the other Fascist as well so....Jesus christ.
I worked at a store when this movie came out on Blu-ray and they put it in the children’s section... like you they probably got it mixed up with the movie labyrinth and mistakenly put it there, I had seen the movie and had to tell a mother and little girl trying to buy it that it definitely wasn’t for kids, and made them put the movie in the proper category. otherwise many kids probably would have been traumatized for life
I always cry when Ofelia dies at the end 😭😭😭
i watched this movie when i was 6 and it made me cry bc i was so scared haven't watched it since
omg i watched it at the same age and it was my fav movie
Boggles my mind how parents allowed their kids to watch this movie without checking the rating!! If it says NOT RATED G, do not show this to your kids!! 😨 But then I watched it as an adult thinking it's a kids movie and still got scared 😫
I'm seeing a lot of parenting fails in the comments here. I watched this as an adult, and I found it disturbing.
@@RitsychServare Well, the thing is, showing children dark things is a way to prepare them for life to face fears, and be a back up to you if you're struggling to find money and you told your child to sit there and do nothing where your child can just help you find it with some great sense of intelligence. Good parenting equals teach them anything. They should not be treated too sheltered and too innocently or else they will stay that way from childhood to adulthood and not change at all.
You don't have to show your children this film, but if they learn to understand the real world a lot better, maybe try it, I would. Not trying to persuade you, just to give you heads up. Therefore, fear and being scared does help you to cope with life. We all struggle with it. We do go through a traumatic experience which is called positive trauma.
Hope this helps 🙂👍.
i also remember watching this without knowing it was rated R but i was a kid/teen. I was so shocked when the captain destroyed the guys face.
just found you from the Anastasia video, and have binged a few more vids, love your spirit and channel. Subscribed.
SAME!
Pan and the Pale man are practical. Only the legs on Pan are cgi and there is some touch ups on the Pale man
Pans labyrinth is one of my favourite movies in the world. I recommend it to every friend and family member.
I've been waiting for this,!!!,BEST commentator by far!!!!!
oh my god i love this movie how have i never thought about if her brother could be the narrator thats soo fascinating!!! especially if you think of this as the story mercedes told him as a child to explain his family's bravery to save him🥺🥺🥺🥺
I viewed this movie as a little girl trying make her own fantasy to cope in the horrors of war to escape the reality but still the version of her fantasy is still has some horror story that has a happy ending.
She died smiling believing in her own fantasy.
If you look in the last scene, the mother seemed to be holding a baby, presumably Ofelia's brother. So it looks like he does go to the underworld too, eventually.
When I watched this as a teen the pale man scared the shit out of me, and that at a time when I was so paranoid that I needed ro check my closets and underneath my bed and close the door before I went to sleep
I'm in college now, and I recently watched this movie for the first time as part of an assignment. Been uncomfortable with any kind of noises after dark ever since 😅
You can think of it like this; "Labyrinth" is a movie made for children/tweens Starring adults, while "Pan's Labyrinth" is an adult movie starring a child.😊 I happen to love them both!
This movie is maybe one of the best examples of magical realism in film. I highly recommend anyone who likes this kind of realistic fairy tale to look into that genre more! Guillermo del Toro employs magical realism in a lot of his movies, and magical realism has roots in Latin American literature, check out the movie adaptation of Like Water For Chocolate.
17:35 As an spanish historian I must defends the poor Ofelia XD
During our Civil War and after it, in the years of Franco's dictatorship (he was a friend of Hitler), the people was so damn poor that they can't even had daily piece bread to eat.
It was the first time she saw a fruit since long ago, and she's a kid jajaja.
Fruits, meat, eggs... were mostly luxury products, specially in cities and in the first decade of the dictatorship (1939-1950).
Countryside people were more lucky in that sense, cause they had animals, fruit gardens and the wild nature to didn't starve as bad as the other people.
In our childhood, our grandparents used to tell us all the horrible histories and experiences that commmon people had to face to survive the abuse of all those fucking fascists, who still wanting a new dictatorships nowadays.
even to this day i cant hear that lullaby without bursting into tears.
Yeah that scene with the fairies dying made me so mad
this is my all-time favorite movie. i first watched it was i 11 and it stuck with me ever since (I'm 24 now) and whenever i watch it, it never fails to amaze me every time. it's just brimming with symbolisms everywhere
Something to consider is that this was set during the Spanish civil War and there were shortages and times were tough. Seeing a feast like that would be hard for a young girl to resist especially fresh fruit
The faun is actually practical but the actor’s legs were cropped out. They were moving the costume like a puppet but obviously the creature has inverted joints so that part of his legs are painted out :)
My family told me that this was my favorite movie when I was 4 years old, my aunt watched it once with me and she was very scared while my 4 year old self was fascinated
If you like ghost stories, Guillermo del Toro directed The Devil's Backbone from 2001. A really good ghost design.
Fun fact: at the premiere, a man who was sitting right beside del Toro was visibly disturbed at the Pale Man. Told del Toro it was one of the most frightening monsters he’d ever seen. That man…was Stephen King
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Del Toro himself tweeted this about the Pale Man in 2017:
"The Pale Man represents all institutional evil feeding on the helpless. It's not accidental that he is a) Pale b) a Man. He's thriving now."
I love that she uses her little face bubble to censor the gore, idk why it's just adorable, I've never seen a RUclipsr donit like that
I wish there were more movies with childlike fantasy mixed with dark elements like this film, I love it!!!
I watched this couple of years ago not knowing anything about it, thinking it was like a kids movie... I was shocked 😂
O M G !!!!!! Literally one of my FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAVORITE movies. Love that you reacted to it.
I remember looking for this movie and watching the entire David Bowie one waiting for the eyes in the hands scene and it never coming up. And then realizing I had watched the wrong movie.
I hate to comment twice, but I just recently watched A Monster Calls on Netflix and I thought it was _really_ well written!
I know you’re probably planning to watch Labyrinth next but, if you haven’t already seen it, I really recommend A Monster Calls - even if you don’t record your reactions!
Yes! A Monster Calls is such an underrated movie! Loved every second of it. Made me cry like a baby too.
👀 PANS LABYRINTH!! I loved this movie
The same thing happened to me when I saw this in the theater. Watch the American trailer. It doesn’t hint at that gore in the slightest. I went in with my wide-eyed childlike innocence on display and I’m still traumatized. 😳😂Still love the movie and the soundtrack is beautiful!
"That Guillermo Del Toro movie with David Bowie in it" - *GOD I WISH!!!*
This movie simultaneously scared me and fascinated the hell out of me, as a kid.
My teacher of cinema and multimedia showed the class this film when we had like 13/14 years. Honestly I didn't understand why at that time, I feel like I didn't pay attention but now I want to watch it again and analyse it. The monster with the eyes in it's hands was defenitly something that disturbed everyone.
Yes PLEASE! Please watch Labyrinth! So much fun! MUCH different vibe from Pan's Labyrinth.
I love the ending. The captain doesn't see the faun. No one but Ofelia sees the things she experiences.
(spoilers)
It's up to the viewer to decide whether what happens is real or the overactive imagination of a girl desperate for an escape from traumatic circumstances. It's up to the viewer to decide whether she actually is a princess that found her way back to the magical world or if that last scene was her mind's way of dealing with the fact that she was dying.
Doug Jones, "The Faun" and "Pale Man" is a brilliant physical actor. He plays Saru in "Star Trek: Discovery," The Asset in "The Shape of Water," and many other great roles, usually in full makeup.
Watched with my family when I was young, and every part of this movie scarred me 😂😅 the song at the end has stayed with me up until this day
People think that Fascism ended when WWII ended in 1945, but they forget that Franco continued to rule in Spain until his death (!) in 1970s!
After the bottle scene, I was more scared of the Captain than ANYTHING else in this movie, and I think that's the point! I love Guillermo Del Toro, I love this movie, and I subscribed!
My personal Spanish learning goal is to be able to watch "El Laberinto del Fauno" without subtitles.
incase y'all didn't know, the captain is her step-dad I guess. Her father died and her mother remarried.
Ophelia's outfits be bussin' tho throughout the film.
My dad lived in spain during that civil war, brutal time. Loved this movie
I love this movie and yet I never noticed the parallels between her tasks and existing fairytales. Really clever observation
Love your videos, as always.
Basically a perfect movie - with the exception of some of the CGI, which is just because it came out at an awkward time for pure CGI constructs like the toad and the faeries, when it was like, good enough to be used extensively but not good enough to still hold up today.
The captain's death is one of my favourite moments ever. The way they just cut him off and 'no - he won't even know your name'. Thus to all fascists \o/
Omg yesssss. I loved his death too! So many movies love to give their villains a long dramatic monologue, but he didnt even deserve to speak or get any remembrance! It felt very realistic
I do adore this movie. Just imagine what kids had to imagine back then to cope with reality. Ofelia having lost her father, lived in poverty and her mother doing all she can so they wont starve but is eventually forced to marry a bad father and husband in return to carry his son. Do take note that it is every time ofelia feels alone that she can see the faun and fairies, when shes alone in the forest, when shes alone in bed, as Merecedes dies, as her mother dies. Its all about escaping this world and what is currently happening in it. The entire movie is composed of a cozy-creepy vibe. Its brutal, mystical and scary at its very core.
This moves me in a very disturbing way because the captain and his troops are speaking in spanish and I am a Filipino. Seeing how cruel he is makes me feel for my ancestors. Like time travel per se and i am witnessing first hand the colonization that happened centuries ago.
This is why i love this movie. It provokes emotions I should and will never understand under normal circumstances.
This is one of my favorites movies, and the score is gorgeus, the lullababy still makes me cry everytime.
May I recomend you The Devil's Backbone (El espinazo del diablo)? Its another great movie from Guillermo del Toro that mixes the Spanish civil war with a supernatural element
I cried like a baby at the end of this movie. The way Del Toro was able to show such a heartbreaking and disturbing scene in such a beautiful way was incredible.
Pan's Labyrinth > Labyrinth