My mom who is a child of divorce liked this movie because it was one of the few movies at the time where the divorced couple didn't get back together immediately at the end.
As a kid of divorce I liked this movie for the same reason. My parents divorced when I was so young the idea of them getting (back) together always made me uncomfortable 😅
Exactly. While it can happen, it often doesn't. This also made me think of movies with representation like disabled or queer rep. When they end with this "you're magically cured" or "actually your parents support you and everyone loves you still", those endings make them feel like they were made for the entertainment of people not children of divorce, disabled, or queer. Because the normies get a happy story with a bow on it as an inspiration for them, while the people represented in the movie get an unrealistic ending that feels...bad. (Don't get me started on Love, Simon. They really had an in-movie 'and then they all clapped' moment)
Robin Williams was a huge LGBTQ advocate. He basically prevented Nathan Lane from being outed on live TV by taking the conversation and steering it in a different direction. Also like you said earlier this was written by two women, if it were men penning it in the 90s it definitely could have gone a different route in terms of tone, but I'm pretty sure that's why they hired women. Oh yeah it was on Oprah, because of course it was
I didn’t know this (despite being 37 & a huge Robin fan), but yet I’m not surprised at all by this. The world has been so much darker without his beautiful soul in it
steering the conversation away is hiding things as if it's shameful ... def not a good move lol. Supporting being in the closet ? since when? You just said that insanity to simp for Robin... it's okay for your favourite actors to be idiots. Stop idolizing them.
People in the closet don't owe the world the truth. People had their lives ruined by being outed. And also, the tabloids are ruthless. They would treat a non-committal answer as confirmation just so they could push the story. Robin was being a good friend by keeping Nathan from staying in that awkward position by acting like his usual zany self
@@agnidas5816 it is never your business to out someone without their permission how dare you even type out this comment without having an iota of self-reflection
The only part of this movie I have a clear memory of is Robin Williams asking to be made into a woman and his brother saying "oh honey I'm so happy." Irecall thinking "what a sweet response. " total mystery why.
That’s actually very sweet with the third bus driver scene where he’s still like “I didn’t expect that, but hey, you’re still a beautiful woman either way”
yeah I felt really touched by that scene, it's actually so sweet. Such naked and simple acceptance of who you really are by someone else sounds so damn nice
as a child of divorce and an emotionally absent father, I love mrs. doubtfire because, in my mind, this man was willing to commit crimes to spend time with his children. fraud, contempt of court, and attempted murder? nothing was off limits, except for getting a normal job and following the judge's orders to get split custody. and that to me is admirable!
Freakin same man. Was he crazy? Yeah, duh, but he was willing to go to the absolute extreme just to be with his kids and make sure they were taken care of in any way he could. I was so jealous of the kids in the movie for having a dad like that when mine showed up maybe once a month
Honestly for me, I empathize for what Daniel is doing, but it doesn’t change the fact that what he’s doing is pretty messed up. Especially when you consider that when 2 of his kids find out, while Lydia is happy to see her dad back, Chris takes a step back saying, “I don’t want to touch you, not yet.”. I hear some people say that Chris’s reaction came off as weird. But then again, you have to consider that this is the same kid who blames himself for his parents divorcing. Think about that: His parents divorced, their new housekeeper is around all the time, the housekeeper is a lady who you just saw peeing like a man, THAT LADY IS A MAN, and that man is YOUR DAD. The son’s gonna need some serious time to process all of that. And then to add to injury, Daniel tells his children not to say a word. Or he’ll only “see the kids through plate glass”. Yet Daniel doesn’t seem to realize that the lies can't go on forever, even if he does gain equal custody/visitation, since everybody in the family believes Mrs. Doubtfire as part of the family. It's only time before someone finds out, even if his kids say nothing. Goes to show you how everyone would probably need A LOT time after the truth does come out to process this in real life.
@@osmanyousif7849 oh yeah I completely agree, especially watching the movie as an adult. That's why my comment at the end is a bit more sarcastic lol It was more so as a kid I was like "I don't know why the wife is so angry that her ex husband wants to spend time with the kids" because it was the opposite for me. My dad went out of his way to avoid being a parent until the hardest years were done (he wasn't around much until I was almost 14). From my young perspective, Daniel was the ideal father figure. Now as an adult, I understand how harmful it was that he manipulated and lied to his children and.his ex wife. Even if his intentions were good at the beginning, near the end he almost killed Stu because of his childish jealousy. Realistically, Miranda should have put those kids in counseling as soon as they left the restaurant parking lot.
@@hanhantap , your statement actually adds another layer to something about this movie. As in the original script, not only did Daniel and Miranda get back together in the end, but it decided to make Stu a villain to justify it. But the director chose to pull back on both decisions because he wanted to reassure that the family was going to be all right as well as smart enough not to be taken advantage of without Daniel's help. Therefore, most of Stu lines were redone to show that he does care for Miranda and the kids, even willing to be their stepdad. The only really bad thing he does is just insult Daniel by calling him a loser (Although to be fair, he probably heard it from Miranda). While I do think the director made the smart choice, it does begin to ignore that Daniel's behavior feels like a stalker. Especially since he almost kills Stu, despite not deserving that. I remember seeing so many edits of this movie where the tone is switched from family comedy to psychological thriller, and man.... do I feel like this would be a far more realistic way the movie would've been made.
"they got any black people in this movie?" "oh sorry, no. not a single one" Yeah once you notice it about all your favorite 90s movies, you can't un-notice it.
Used to be a running joke with me and my mom when watching anything from the before or during the 90s to early 2000s Especially for Hallmark movies. I’d say “I’ll eat paper if we see a black person, I’ll eat another piece if their hair isn’t straightened.” Harder to do it for movies these days though, which is a good thing. 😅
@janelbbuck I know of one. Mannequin. It was made in 1987.. I enjoyed it when I was a kid and teen, but I'm not gonna lie, I have yet to revisit it as an adult. The point is that they at least do have a black person in the cast, and he is my favorite character in the movie.
Lots of the classic ‘90s movies have Black stars or costars: Jurassic Park, Die Hard, The Matrix, Pulp Fiction, The Shawshank Redemption, Philadelphia, Unforgiven, Lethal Weapon 3/4, … Hell, Kenan Thompson was in TWO ‘90s children’s classics: Goodburger and Heavyweights
its geniunely such a good movie because of its message of divorce. its not anti divorce, it feels more like a story about closure, healing your relationship with your ex and moving on. and i thinks thats a very sweet and good message. not everyone will get back together and thats fine, and that doesnt necessarily mean ex's have to hate each other. especially for families who go through divorces, people can move on seperately and still be amicable as well as both people taking care of their children. this movie suprised me a lot and its so good.
Robin Williams did a ton of LGBT movies: The Bird Cage, To Wong Foo, Boulevard, etc., but honestly I think my favourite queer role of his is Fender from Robots.
As a trans man whose parents divorced when i was young and then my mom came out as trans. this movie has always hit me in such a personal way and I will always love it.
its like every time you cut to our wonderful reactors something new is going on in the background. sometimes it’s a cat, and sometimes it’s you pretending to be a cat
that yiddish joke is absolutely foul, lmao!🤣 i'm from a jewish family and i remember my grandfather almost died laughing at that scene when we first saw this. i didn't know any yiddish yet, so it wasn't til later that i understood why. Robin was a cheeky-minded sonuvabitch, lol! i love it.
Fun fact: The movie was originally rated R due to Williams’ obscene remarks. But given how many children were dealing with the hardships of divorce, it was rightfully toned down to a more manageable PG-13 rating.
Been looking forward to this one "It doesn’t count as a hate crime if the movie is kinda good actually" instant classic already! Had no idea Robin's wife pitched this to him and they produced it together
The beginning of the video where you kinda do a little mini documentary of Mrs. Doubtfire is very very well-made and I would watch that kind of content anytime! Great video!
I'm sad they cut the third bus driver scene. That would have been a really sweet scene. I really hope we eventually get an extended cut of the movie. In honor of Robin Williams.
When you ever had a rough time in your marriage, you understand that Miranda is a great character because she is so up-tight, actually. She is not supposed to be the good, innocent women who always does everything right, she is supposed to FALSELY think that about herself and later realise her flaws. Because that is what it feels like. The more the pressure grows, the more one reacts, the more the pressure grows. And in the end, the realtion hits, that "you don't want to be that person" or "you hate what you have made out of each other" and "it would be better we are the great people we are alone instead of making each other mad and miserable". That's why she gets more easy going in the end. It is not the new man trope, this is actually her starting to be less angsty because her live is about to turn aroung, for the first time in years it seems, she does not have to choose between either her kids are happy or she is happy and does not have to suffer the pressure built up. And also her ex-husband becomes a more capable person not relying on her in every aspect of his live, which takes a lot of weight from her shoulders. Even that they both are fighting in front of the kids while always claiming they do everything for the kids is very relatable. You get blinded, basically, and only later realise how badly you f'ed up, when all this pressure is gone. And I think, this "always happy dad" thing is also a fassade, he just has another way to be up-tight and angsty. Maybe this is a "socialised male or socialised female" thing. Women tend to become stern and stressed out because they feel like everything is falling appart and men tend to become almost addicted to fun and adventure because they feel like everything is falling apart. Both try to hold everything together, but they damage each other while trying, because their strategy is so different. It was the same with us. I couldn't sleep anymore because I was always thinking how things should work out in the next 3 to 5 years when we spilt, for the kids, financially, with the house, who will live where and how will the kids deal with that and what if what if what if... while hubby was in the "happiest" mood you can be enjoying the familiy being together because it might never come back and this was his way to try and glue the broken parts together as long as possible, deperatly hanging on this last thread. I see a lot of the same dynamic in this movie. I think it really is well made.
@@pliktl Maybe. If this is true for most people, it is very sad, because I believe she was not a side-thought or an "accidentally" well made character. I believe there was a lot of thought and a lot of life experience put into the creation of her character. I really like her. I really like her not in spite of but because I disliked her so much before I was a struggling mom myself. It really hits you how relatable she gets when you suddenly find yourself in her shoes even if you always believed you would never end up being this way. Maybe every wife should watch this movie with her husband and talk about this issue. This could be a great conversation starter about the different approaches of men and women on happyness and marriage.
I always appreciated Miranda. She had to be "twice the adult" to make up for her husband's immaturity and unreliableness. That kind of pressure is exhausting to sustain, and I think it speaks to a lot of women's experiences that they have to be "the villain" while their immature husband gets to be "the fun one". I read a comment somewhere a while ago that society will always choose a fun man over a traumatized woman, even (or especially) if the hardships of the relationship are the reason she became such a miserable person in the first place. Being overworked, under valued, constantly having to be the voice of reason and yet being gaslighted about it, etc can really drain and warp a person. I think there's a lot of misogyny and victim-blaming in the hate that we serve to this type of woman. Miranda doesn't want to be a bad person - she's just burnt out. She deserves to find happiness, and it was incredibly brave of her to walk away from a marriage that was making her miserable. And I do think it speaks to her character that she realizes her own pain was causing her to be bitter and hurt her kids. I think the movie did a good job of humanizing her, and if people don't appreciate her character it's probably because they just want someone to blame (and like I said, it's easier to hate on a bitter woman than to acknowledge the unfair conditions that got her there). The film does a good job (imo) of illustrating that there really is no "bad guy" in their relationship - just two incompatible people coming to hard realizations about themselves and their situation, and I love that the film offers an example of reconciliation and growth as they go their separate ways (as opposed to getting back together).
For those who don't know, the costume design and mannerisms of Robin William's portrayal are based off the real elderly comedian Christine Hamilton. Hamilton founded a comedy group for old people called the Geritol Follies (basically means "old jokes"). This fact went largely unnoticed for a long time because the Geritol Follies were only ever super popular in the midwest.
Sooo I am a cis queer woman and went to high school in the early 2000s... during that time the school held a special assembly to tell the entire school that our english teacher was 'becoming trans' and then went on to outline it all, including surgery for a trans woman. We found out a few days later that they were VERY VERY VERY in the wrong to out our english teacher... we never saw her againa nd I'm guessing they gave her a huge settlement for that. I suppose they thought because she was starting to look so feminine that we'd be confused but tbh no one every questioned it when we thought she was a male... no one cared that when she was still 'a man' that she had long hair and earrings and stuff. Anyway... far from being disturbed by it, no one cared, I distinctly remember Mrs Doubtfire being mentioned by friends in a super positive light in regards to our teacher and we were actually pretty angry when we found out they weren't supposed to out her like that.... she was one of the popular teachers. So I can see how movies like this are def not great these days... but for early 2000s teens who were coming terms with our own sexuality and gender identity it was pretty positive.
Holy shit. Yeah, I was in high school in 2000. My best friend since preschool was gay. I knew he was gay before he understood. I never said anything to him or anyone else about it. He apparently thought I didn't know and told me in our freshman year. I just looked at him and said, "Honey... I know." When he realized I knew the entire time and never said a word about it, I could see relief wash over him. I was just surprised he didn't know that I knew. He was scared of his mom finding out and possibly kicking him out of the house. We just ~knew~ it was wrong to say anything and out someone like that. But apparently, my generation didn't pass that on to their own kids, and instead found some sort of entitlement to know these things about literally everyone?
I have a friend who was inpired by this series and keeps making me watch movies he thinks Evasive would use for it. I've been forced to watch Sorority Boys and Dr. Jekyl & Ms. Hyde. It just isn't fair!
10 year old me was wild for Dr. Jekyll & Ms. Hyde! lol (A movie I probably shouldn't have rented at that age but my dad never paid attention to anything. *shrug*)
I honestly love Sorority Boys because they start understanding the hell women go through and sympathizing with them and stuff. It's a silly but fun movie.
As a transwoman, this was & still is one of my favorite movies growing up (born in ‘87 so I do remember 9/11). Seeing the validation Robin got for his performance gave me some confidence in my own life (coming out) but outside of my own family - I’m a very targeted individual sadly (blame The South). The way divorce was handled was the best I’d seen up to my early adulthood (both of my parents divorced but remained friends until my Mom’s passing in April). Also - the blonde in the group is stunning & so relatable..I’m so jealous in many ways!
I don't know you, I randomly stumbled across this channel, and I've got to say this is the BEST idea for a video I have seen in a long time, as whimsical as it is. The girls are so funny and their comments are hilarious. Here are some of my favourite moments: - 11:38 : the slow crawl behind the couch - 15:40 : "I made that face too when I decided..."😂 - 17:40 : Riylan leaning closer and Kim's eyes sparkling with joy like a child - 18:10 : Lidia transvestigating😆 had me rolling on the floor - 20:06 : "hellouu" with the little clap is adorable - 23:56 : "I want the version where he phisically transitions" - 32:33 : the "oh no" in unison there were many other moments but I don't want this comment to be essay long. Anyway, thank you youtube algorithm gods for bringing me here, much love from Italy❤
I never realized it, but besides this movie I don't think I've ever seen other movies that have voice acting being a character's job. But it's also kinda smart to have Robin's character BE a voice actress, because then it makes sense why he does so many impressions.
At the same time though, Roger Ebert complained we've seen Robin do impressions all the time so it's not that interesting to see more of it. Also, considering the movie takes place in San Francisco, it is a bit weird because you'd think that type of job would be in LA.
Natasha Richarson and Bob Hoskins are voice over actors for porn movies (they do the sex moans) in The Favor, the Watch, and the Really Big Fish. This movie also features Jeff Goldblum as (kind of) Jesus
I remember thinking the mother was awful. But now...I get it. Imagine having to basically mother him as well, feeling like the only responsible person in the hone, never being able to depend on your partner or trust them to be sensible, always having to be 'no fun mum' because your partner can't be serious or discipline the kids at all. Screw that. I understand perfectly why she finally snapped and ended it. She might not be very likable but I understand her perspective.
My first viewing was with a lesbian. I had never seen her grin for such a long time. She loved the film and I had the VHS for ages and it felt right for my first viewing to be with her. When she saw the VHS on my shelf she was grinning from ear to ear like a little schoolgirl
Yes! Maybe our test audience here are a little too young to empathise with her? She comes home to the petting zoo and the mess - and do we think Daniel is going to clean all that up? Looking at his apartment and his cooking and cleaning skills, house work has not been something he has done a lot of until then. She is carrying the mental load and doing the house work, and he gets to be fun and play. It sucks!
@@regitzeillum6713 Agreed. I think if you haven't been in that situation or witnessed it, it's hard to understand. I've seen situations like that before, and it is exhausting. The mom has probably had sleep interrupted and plans upended because of his shenanigans, however well-meaning he might be. And I believe for the purposes of the movie (perhaps unlike some of the men I'm thinking of), he is, but that doesn't change how difficult the situation is for her.
Long comment ahead:as a trans woman,this movie legit gave me my first f the patriarchy moment,cause i was questioning why he needed to specifically be a female babysitter,why can't he look after his kids as a guy?and why would him putting on a dress suddenly make him a woman?and it made me realize how bs gender roles are,specially clothing since i've always liked both traditionally masculine and feminine clothes and because i saw this movie right after my mom freaked out when i asked her(a manicure btw)to paint my nails and even as a kid i was like "bruh,it's just art on your nails,what could be more gender neutral than something as vague as art?",so this movie was the nail in the coffing(pun intended)that i needed,so thank you Robin Williams for making the raging leftist i am today😊
the point you made about him not being able to take care of his kids is simply because the mum wouldn't let or trust him since he asked that he could do it himself and she said some excuse
@@noodledaddy3234 yeah but i meant he logically could have disguised himself as a completely different guy if he apparently had the money to get a whole freaking body suit,i'm sure some make up,different clothes and a wig would be a lot cheaper🤷🏾♀️
Mrs. Doubtfire gave me a black eye when I was eight. I laughed so hard I knocked my face into a coffee table and had a bruise for weeks. I’ll never forget this movie
The casting in this movie was 10/10. You need a good ensemble for comedies. Also, we don’t give enough credit to Pierce Brosnan’s face journeys in the movie.
My impression is that this movie has no relevance to trans culture or public perception. The character has no struggles with gender, it's entirely an acting role. On the other hand, being reminded of it in today's climate makes me think it spits in the face of the alpha sigma gigachad grindset obsession of modern young male culture. Here we have a broadly positive and well-liked and inspiring male character who has no need whatsoever to project macho masculinity, doesnt particularly care about career success and is primarily motivated by wanting to spend more time with his children. If I had to pick a role model for directionless young men, this seems like a pretty decent one.
It's really nice that it's pointed out how trans and drag is different~ Would be interesting for drag queens to watch Mrs Doubtfire, since it's much more drag than trans
It's a bit complicated. Since drag queens don't usually dress up with the intent to pass as cis. What Robin's dad character is doing is crossdressing/drag, but actually trying to pass and be stealth about it is much closer to the trans experience.
90s kid here. My parents never divorced, but this was such a staple growing up. Two things to that stood out to me even to this day: 1- every single friend with divorced parents have expressed how important this movie was for them. As a kid, I couldn't comprehend why they were sad. They get two rooms and more toys (I'm also autistic if that helps). It wasn't until the ending message that I fully understood how they internalized divorce. It made my heart feel heavy. It was very much needed for many kids and I'm very appreciative it was said when movies back then needed fairytale endings. 1.5- my parents were ahead of the time. I grew up with this, The Birdcage, and Gloria Estefan (Everlasting Love music vid, anyone?). Even tho it was funny, none of the humor was exactly shock value to me so idk, I'm just grateful lol 2- IT WAS A RUN BY FRUITING!
I don't get the hate for the wife. Robin Williams was a terrible husband. She's working hard while he's wreaking the house and the movie makes it clear it's the straw that breaks the camels back.
we have no idea if the house would have been cleaned up had she not come home. she references cleaning up after his messes but again, we don't know if he was ever given the chance to "clean up" those either or if she flew off the handle then as well. Obviously Miranda hadn't told him her plans for Chris' birthday since she does it while screaming at him and we see that Daniels was spur of the moment having just quit his job. She is the beta version of Skyler White to me. She isn't wrong for wanting a divorce but she is wrong for not allowing shared custody. Not one thing that is shown or said gives us reason to think he was not a good father. He went very far to see his kids. He seemed like an overall good man to me, just not someone compatible with Miranda, which see herself says, they grew apart. She fell in love with who he is and she "grew up" compared to him. They made it apparent she thought the custody decision was not right in the court room but decided to say nothing and withhold the kids from him afterwards even though it is 100% in her power to allow him time with the kids.
That's mostly true, but there was no good reason given on why she limited him from seeing their kids. She even got a nanny to look after them instead of allowing him to look after them either at his or her house until she came home knowing how desperate he was to be with his kids.
@@mcdotterson4103 how would a woman who has a fulltime job be saying she cleans up after his messES (plural!) if he ever used the time before she comes home as such "chances" to clean up? we have no reason to assume she is overreacting, he literally let a petting zoo into the house. that scene is meant to make it fucking obvious that he is not responsible enough, at least as an adult who should take care of the house, if not as a parent in specific... loving your kids is not the same as being a responsible parent or even being a good parent, love does not work as a healing aid to whatever bad traits people might have, including reclessness. and it can even motivate people to behave in ways that are extremely bad for the kids, like if the parent does not want the child to leave, for example. and wtf is your issue with skylar white? are you for or AGAINST keeping families together where the father has harmful traits? skylar stayed with walt for much longer than she should have. so which one is it?
@davejacob5208 the scene is the tipping point. You don't know if its the same everytime or not. They are essentially establishing a "pattern" off one incident. lol where does it seem like I have an issue with Skylar white? Was just an easy analogy. Was a character that became known for not being liked because of how they acted even though they were completely justified in what she said/did. No one exaggerates in anger ever right? We are watching a marriage implode. I see how you could get to "He might not be good for the kids" if you ignore the rest of the movie and what she ends up saying and doing.
The bus driver and Osgood from Some Like it Hot are in the club of older men falling in love with a cross dressing man and as beautifully accepting of the idea that they fell in love with a possible transwoman. We need more
@Abyrae oh! Some Like it Hot is actually from 1959 and it's set in Florida. Osgood was just straight up down bad for Daphne and said "nobody's perfect" when it's revealed to him. I love the movie and get excited when I get to talk some about it.
@@fosternova4434and in the musical, Daphe finds out she's trans through the experience and Osgood is still accepting of her and they do get married after she transitioned in the end scene so he stands by his views
I remember loving this movie. Trans Child of divorce btw. stuff like this movie and other things that included drag just kinda started my fascination with changing gender. And now we’re here lol
I was expecting another movie reaction with a catchy title from a new channel (to me), that’s simply a watch-along. Yet got such an amazingly edited video! Your narration explaining what scene is happening and then showing your guests reactions, as well as your own is refreshing at least imo. Also the whole backstory segment at the beginning was such a treat, it felt I was watching a documentary with a movie reaction as the bonus feature. I’ll have to be on the lookout for news on that potential documentary esc video over the unreleased Mrs. Doubtfire content, this movie was one of my favorites from Mr. Williams. Anyways, Amazing work & I’ll definitely be subbing and coming back for more.
Just got your channel recommended to me, and I just want to say as somebody who watches a lot of reaction channels that I really appreciated the backstory section. I never knew most of that stuff, and would love to see this supposed NC-17 cut. I’ll edit my comment once I actually watch the reaction part to add more substance, but I just wanted to mention that early. Great section for a reaction video, and I’d love if more channels took note. Great video. Thanks for including that whole ending speech. I’m a child of divorce and I’d forgotten that.
I forgot to mention in the video but I found out that Chris Columbus later said he was “only joking” about the NC-17 version. However according to him the R rated version definitely still exists
I actually rewatched this movie recently and it had a lot less transphobic jokes than I expected/remembered… Also yes everyone has said it but I like that the divorce is treated as the good ending. It’s weirdly rare in fiction lol.
@xhelan131 there were a couple trans jokes that went by fast enough you may have missed them, like the phone interview and trying to buy that woman a drink. Compared to other 90s movies' treatment of trans women (see Ace Ventura) the were practically nothing
@@xhelan131 and you old people's brainsand bodies are literally deteriorating, talk about sensitive try and jump and not make your fragile knees crack
@@xhelan131 Those jokes are indeed transphobic, and specifically transmisogynistic. In addition "man in a dress" humor is inherently transmisogynist. You don't get to dictate to trans people what is and is not transphobia. You people are just too sensitive that minorities can speak up for themselves.
Count me among the Miranda Hillard apologists because I would have wanted to light Daniel ON FIRE! Like, WHAT DO YOU MEAN you're throwing a party for a grounded child behind my back? And not just a regular one but an out of control one with animals and children trashing the house that you aren't even paying attention to? And with what money is this even coming out of?? Not only is the house a mess but he is undermining her authority and being the 'fun' parent nor does he respect her & what she brings to/sacrifices for the family and continues to do so the whole movie. I don't think Daniel is a bad person but he's was a terrible husband and odds are high that if he hadn't waited until the divorce to actually contribute in all the way Miranda had been begging for that they wouldn't have grown so far apart as to be getting a divorce.
Yeah, except for the divorce declaration in front of kids (which was emotional, not planned), and picking the kids up early from their time with him I don't think she did anything wrong. The irony is if Daniel had started being as responsible as Mrs. Doubtfire while they were still married it is likely she never would have stopped loving him. He exhausted her into complacency, then rage. It wasn't that he couldn't change he just chose not to, not until he was terrified. I knew I had grown old when I sided with her 😂
I wake up in a cold sweat, tied to a chair in a pitch black room. I try to wrestle my restraints, but I find that my legs have been bolted to the legs of the chair. Suddenly, a light flickers on from the ceiling, revealing Eva holding a monkey wrench in one hand. She bounces it off her other palm and says "It's time to force eggs to watch The Danish Girl"
"Can I propose a drinking game where we take a drink every time Robin Williams embodies a different character?" Only if you wanna die from alcohol poisoning.
I hated this movie as a kid. Not because Robin Williams didn't kill it in the role. But all the gags. The fact that my family loved it so much and laughed at all the "man dressed as women for laughs" part when I was deeply in the closet and making fun of some of the closest representations of my identity that I saw on tv as social time with my family. Being a transgirl that far in the closet hurt enough already, I didn't need a reminder that I was a thing to be mocked, never taken seriously.
the idea of an r rated cut of mrs doubtfire didn't shock me, but the idea of an nc-17 cut is mindblowing. that would either be the best or the worst movie ever?
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@@Kagomai15 Children cannot see either alone, but as an adult you can bring children under 17 to an R rated movie, you cannot bring them to an NC-17 movie.
I just gotta say, as a queer ace person, being able find content that shares multiple queer experiences from all the letters of our Mafia is heartwarming. I’ve been on RUclips for way too long and this is such refreshing content 😚!
@@BlackSheepNaraim assuming it was to figure out how old she was. if she doesnt remember 9/11 she prob wouldnt remember the time when the phones had antennas
@@naomis-haerin Yeah, it also depends on if you were rich or not, or if your family were tech savvy or not. I was born 2002 and i grew up with flip phones. Ive heard of people already having computers and shit like that, while we didnt.
Thank you so much for the pics of the definitions. Without them, I would have been mostly lost, to be perfectly honest. I also really appreciate how much commentary was being provided by Kim. She was really steering a lot of the video. Perfect callback, by the way, with the music. P.S. I don't think it was really necessary for you to have to crawl past in the back, but it made for a pretty funny bit for that split second. Overall, really, really great video, Eva! Great analyses, comparisons, and commentary from everyone, while still having really funny moments. Loved it, as always!
I honestly think most people didn't mind that stuff all that much up until for some reason the powers that be (both media corps and states) felt the need to push it hard and then eventually push it on children as well. Nobody really went out of their way to complain or ban anything back when drag was more of a low key, underground thing, that was also not as strongly associated with specific political views. It's a different beast these days, and I think that's why there's so much more pushback.
@@madelakiPeople didn’t complain about something that was underground? Imagine that…No one is “pushing” drag on children. The whole point is to show people that something otherwise unfamiliar isn’t bad, isn’t harmful, isn’t scary. Offering an optional activity that people can take their children to isn’t “pushing” anything.
This movie and Birdcage did so much for me in regards to unique family situations ending up in a relatively wholesome way. Like they weren’t afraid to show the reality of divorce in this movie (despite how unreal this plot is) and not have a sappy ending where the couple gets back together or both end up with a perfect new spouse at first sight. And seeing two gay men having raised a now-adult kid, and be in essentially a full on marriage during a time when that life was nearly unknown to most people and having that be an unquestioned fact and not the butt of the many, many jokes was so cool. I loved Robin as a comedian as a kid, and ended up ADORING his movies upon revisiting them as an adult. I never realized how deep they were when I first watched them.
Im the oldest of 4 kids and I grew up loving this movie. Somehow my youngest sister (I’m 9 years older) had never seen it and she was having an awful night. We watched it at like 3am and I always remember just how much she laughed watching it. Cheered her right up. ❤
13:53 he's to hairy to be a Twink, a lack of hair is one of the three qualifiers of a twink. He's an Otter. A Otter is basically someone who has the Hair of a Bear but not the size.
"This is the Citizen Kane of the 90's." I loved the behind the details you provided here Evasive, and I barely noticed you crawling around. Your guests are awesome and hilarious. Thanks you all for the fine content.
My mom who is a child of divorce liked this movie because it was one of the few movies at the time where the divorced couple didn't get back together immediately at the end.
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I love that about this movie. I like a happy ending as much as anyone, but I think it would have damaged the movie to have them reconcile.
As a kid of divorce I liked this movie for the same reason. My parents divorced when I was so young the idea of them getting (back) together always made me uncomfortable 😅
Exactly. While it can happen, it often doesn't. This also made me think of movies with representation like disabled or queer rep. When they end with this "you're magically cured" or "actually your parents support you and everyone loves you still", those endings make them feel like they were made for the entertainment of people not children of divorce, disabled, or queer. Because the normies get a happy story with a bow on it as an inspiration for them, while the people represented in the movie get an unrealistic ending that feels...bad.
(Don't get me started on Love, Simon. They really had an in-movie 'and then they all clapped' moment)
“…and sometimes they don’t, dear.” 😭
Robin Williams was a huge LGBTQ advocate. He basically prevented Nathan Lane from being outed on live TV by taking the conversation and steering it in a different direction. Also like you said earlier this was written by two women, if it were men penning it in the 90s it definitely could have gone a different route in terms of tone, but I'm pretty sure that's why they hired women.
Oh yeah it was on Oprah, because of course it was
I didn’t know this (despite being 37 & a huge Robin fan), but yet I’m not surprised at all by this. The world has been so much darker without his beautiful soul in it
oh yeah, definitely a smart move on William's part. he was such a kind soul
steering the conversation away is hiding things as if it's shameful ... def not a good move lol. Supporting being in the closet ? since when?
You just said that insanity to simp for Robin... it's okay for your favourite actors to be idiots. Stop idolizing them.
People in the closet don't owe the world the truth. People had their lives ruined by being outed. And also, the tabloids are ruthless. They would treat a non-committal answer as confirmation just so they could push the story. Robin was being a good friend by keeping Nathan from staying in that awkward position by acting like his usual zany self
@@agnidas5816 it is never your business to out someone without their permission how dare you even type out this comment without having an iota of self-reflection
"I made four trans women watch Mrs. Doubtfire while I secretly filled the room with nineteen cats."
Dont tell the Haitians!
Not fun to joke about racism froma nazi.
@@jho7659 oof!
@@jho7659 if you ever manage to mature with time, i hope you feel ashamed.
@@Coffee_is_readyI agree, but it hasn’t been long enough yet for it to not be funny. 2 weeks from now it’ll be far too old.
The only part of this movie I have a clear memory of is Robin Williams asking to be made into a woman and his brother saying "oh honey I'm so happy." Irecall thinking "what a sweet response. " total mystery why.
that's so sweet holy shit
LOL, I am so mad that the third bus driver scene didn’t make it into the final cut. That would’ve been so beautiful.
That’s actually very sweet with the third bus driver scene where he’s still like “I didn’t expect that, but hey, you’re still a beautiful woman either way”
Really makes me look at the bus driver less as a creepy guy and more as just a guy that shot his shot and is very respectful
@@thehermionegrangerr that’s a great way of putting it
I also thought it was sweet.
yeah I felt really touched by that scene, it's actually so sweet. Such naked and simple acceptance of who you really are by someone else sounds so damn nice
Reminds me of the ending of "Some like it got"
as a child of divorce and an emotionally absent father, I love mrs. doubtfire because, in my mind, this man was willing to commit crimes to spend time with his children. fraud, contempt of court, and attempted murder? nothing was off limits, except for getting a normal job and following the judge's orders to get split custody. and that to me is admirable!
Freakin same man. Was he crazy? Yeah, duh, but he was willing to go to the absolute extreme just to be with his kids and make sure they were taken care of in any way he could. I was so jealous of the kids in the movie for having a dad like that when mine showed up maybe once a month
Honestly for me, I empathize for what Daniel is doing, but it doesn’t change the fact that what he’s doing is pretty messed up. Especially when you consider that when 2 of his kids find out, while Lydia is happy to see her dad back, Chris takes a step back saying, “I don’t want to touch you, not yet.”.
I hear some people say that Chris’s reaction came off as weird. But then again, you have to consider that this is the same kid who blames himself for his parents divorcing. Think about that: His parents divorced, their new housekeeper is around all the time, the housekeeper is a lady who you just saw peeing like a man, THAT LADY IS A MAN, and that man is YOUR DAD. The son’s gonna need some serious time to process all of that.
And then to add to injury, Daniel tells his children not to say a word. Or he’ll only “see the kids through plate glass”. Yet Daniel doesn’t seem to realize that the lies can't go on forever, even if he does gain equal custody/visitation, since everybody in the family believes Mrs. Doubtfire as part of the family. It's only time before someone finds out, even if his kids say nothing.
Goes to show you how everyone would probably need A LOT time after the truth does come out to process this in real life.
@@osmanyousif7849 oh yeah I completely agree, especially watching the movie as an adult. That's why my comment at the end is a bit more sarcastic lol It was more so as a kid I was like "I don't know why the wife is so angry that her ex husband wants to spend time with the kids" because it was the opposite for me. My dad went out of his way to avoid being a parent until the hardest years were done (he wasn't around much until I was almost 14). From my young perspective, Daniel was the ideal father figure.
Now as an adult, I understand how harmful it was that he manipulated and lied to his children and.his ex wife. Even if his intentions were good at the beginning, near the end he almost killed Stu because of his childish jealousy. Realistically, Miranda should have put those kids in counseling as soon as they left the restaurant parking lot.
@@hanhantap , your statement actually adds another layer to something about this movie.
As in the original script, not only did Daniel and Miranda get back together in the end, but it decided to make Stu a villain to justify it. But the director chose to pull back on both decisions because he wanted to reassure that the family was going to be all right as well as smart enough not to be taken advantage of without Daniel's help. Therefore, most of Stu lines were redone to show that he does care for Miranda and the kids, even willing to be their stepdad. The only really bad thing he does is just insult Daniel by calling him a loser (Although to be fair, he probably heard it from Miranda).
While I do think the director made the smart choice, it does begin to ignore that Daniel's behavior feels like a stalker. Especially since he almost kills Stu, despite not deserving that. I remember seeing so many edits of this movie where the tone is switched from family comedy to psychological thriller, and man.... do I feel like this would be a far more realistic way the movie would've been made.
@@osmanyousif7849 someone made a trailer for that version of Doubtfire iirc
That deleted scene is essentially the end of some like it Hot.
“I’m a man!”
“Nobody’s perfect.”
I fucking love that movie
@@BillyMcBean. Yes
Two iconic couples
“What does the antenna on the phone do? Is that like…aesthetic…?”
I got osteoporosis the exact moment I heard that.
I made an audible skeleton rattling noise.
My arthritis flared up.
I kind of died inside a little
"they got any black people in this movie?"
"oh sorry, no. not a single one"
Yeah once you notice it about all your favorite 90s movies, you can't un-notice it.
Used to be a running joke with me and my mom when watching anything from the before or during the 90s to early 2000s Especially for Hallmark movies. I’d say “I’ll eat paper if we see a black person, I’ll eat another piece if their hair isn’t straightened.” Harder to do it for movies these days though, which is a good thing. 😅
@janelbbuck I know of one. Mannequin. It was made in 1987.. I enjoyed it when I was a kid and teen, but I'm not gonna lie, I have yet to revisit it as an adult.
The point is that they at least do have a black person in the cast, and he is my favorite character in the movie.
Lots of the classic ‘90s movies have Black stars or costars: Jurassic Park, Die Hard, The Matrix, Pulp Fiction, The Shawshank Redemption, Philadelphia, Unforgiven, Lethal Weapon 3/4, …
Hell, Kenan Thompson was in TWO ‘90s children’s classics: Goodburger and Heavyweights
"Lydia's transvestigating"
I'm fucking dying lol
I learned several new words from this. Though I'll probably never understand "riz"
@@laurambogartit comes from cha"ris"ma. Literally that's all that there is to it
@@laurambogart riz is rice in french
its geniunely such a good movie because of its message of divorce. its not anti divorce, it feels more like a story about closure, healing your relationship with your ex and moving on. and i thinks thats a very sweet and good message. not everyone will get back together and thats fine, and that doesnt necessarily mean ex's have to hate each other. especially for families who go through divorces, people can move on seperately and still be amicable as well as both people taking care of their children. this movie suprised me a lot and its so good.
Robin Williams did a ton of LGBT movies: The Bird Cage, To Wong Foo, Boulevard, etc., but honestly I think my favourite queer role of his is Fender from Robots.
you’re so real for this, fender is a queer icon
Fender is a trans woman for sure
He was in To Wong Foo !!? I don’t remember that lol
@@erinmonahan He appears in the beginning of the movie
@@erinmonahan He's uncredited! He's an agent/manager/something for the queens and shows up pretty early in the movie.
As a trans man whose parents divorced when i was young and then my mom came out as trans. this movie has always hit me in such a personal way and I will always love it.
KIM GETTING AWAY WITH CONVINCING EVERYONE THAT IT'S HARVEY WEINSTEIN I AM DEAD
"What's the antennae on the phone do?"
"...Do you, like, remember 9/11?"
Oh, crap.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
"No." *nodding* "Okay." 🤣
Scatter my ashes while you're at it! 😂
I cried laughing after hearing “NO SHE WAS BORN” and that’s it
“Robin Williams is like a biological twink.” This is going to live in my head rent free for at least the next 6 months.
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I feel like I don't know what the word Twink means anymore...
@@JamesYale1977 no one even knows what that word means anymore lol
She says about one of the hairiest men who ever lived
@@daninmills he literally joked about being an orangutan...lol
its like every time you cut to our wonderful reactors something new is going on in the background. sometimes it’s a cat, and sometimes it’s you pretending to be a cat
sometimes it's TWO cats
@@supidosanand at 21:23 it’s three cats!!
16:59 sudden kitty appearance!
that yiddish joke is absolutely foul, lmao!🤣
i'm from a jewish family and i remember my grandfather almost died laughing at that scene when we first saw this. i didn't know any yiddish yet, so it wasn't til later that i understood why. Robin was a cheeky-minded sonuvabitch, lol!
i love it.
Fun fact: The movie was originally rated R due to Williams’ obscene remarks. But given how many children were dealing with the hardships of divorce, it was rightfully toned down to a more manageable PG-13 rating.
“I made drag queens watch The Birdcage” would be an S-tier follow up to this vid ngl
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Or The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert
Or To Wong Foo, Thanks For Everything, Julie Newmar
Rewatched this recently and it’s still so fucking funny
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I've been waiting for her to drop a vid on The Birdcage
Been looking forward to this one "It doesn’t count as a hate crime if the movie is kinda good actually" instant classic already! Had no idea Robin's wife pitched this to him and they produced it together
It was literally a ✨family affair✨ I love digging up details about movies like this so much
OH MY GOD MOTHER WATCHES EVASIVE
@@one-onessadhalf3393 We did a livestream together last week!
@EvasiveOne Goodness gracious, where have I been
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The beginning of the video where you kinda do a little mini documentary of Mrs. Doubtfire is very very well-made and I would watch that kind of content anytime! Great video!
Yeah, great research, pick of info, and presentation!
I'm sad they cut the third bus driver scene. That would have been a really sweet scene. I really hope we eventually get an extended cut of the movie. In honor of Robin Williams.
When you ever had a rough time in your marriage, you understand that Miranda is a great character because she is so up-tight, actually. She is not supposed to be the good, innocent women who always does everything right, she is supposed to FALSELY think that about herself and later realise her flaws. Because that is what it feels like. The more the pressure grows, the more one reacts, the more the pressure grows. And in the end, the realtion hits, that "you don't want to be that person" or "you hate what you have made out of each other" and "it would be better we are the great people we are alone instead of making each other mad and miserable". That's why she gets more easy going in the end. It is not the new man trope, this is actually her starting to be less angsty because her live is about to turn aroung, for the first time in years it seems, she does not have to choose between either her kids are happy or she is happy and does not have to suffer the pressure built up. And also her ex-husband becomes a more capable person not relying on her in every aspect of his live, which takes a lot of weight from her shoulders. Even that they both are fighting in front of the kids while always claiming they do everything for the kids is very relatable. You get blinded, basically, and only later realise how badly you f'ed up, when all this pressure is gone.
And I think, this "always happy dad" thing is also a fassade, he just has another way to be up-tight and angsty. Maybe this is a "socialised male or socialised female" thing. Women tend to become stern and stressed out because they feel like everything is falling appart and men tend to become almost addicted to fun and adventure because they feel like everything is falling apart. Both try to hold everything together, but they damage each other while trying, because their strategy is so different.
It was the same with us. I couldn't sleep anymore because I was always thinking how things should work out in the next 3 to 5 years when we spilt, for the kids, financially, with the house, who will live where and how will the kids deal with that and what if what if what if... while hubby was in the "happiest" mood you can be enjoying the familiy being together because it might never come back and this was his way to try and glue the broken parts together as long as possible, deperatly hanging on this last thread. I see a lot of the same dynamic in this movie. I think it really is well made.
@@pliktl Maybe. If this is true for most people, it is very sad, because I believe she was not a side-thought or an "accidentally" well made character. I believe there was a lot of thought and a lot of life experience put into the creation of her character.
I really like her. I really like her not in spite of but because I disliked her so much before I was a struggling mom myself. It really hits you how relatable she gets when you suddenly find yourself in her shoes even if you always believed you would never end up being this way.
Maybe every wife should watch this movie with her husband and talk about this issue. This could be a great conversation starter about the different approaches of men and women on happyness and marriage.
Brilliant
Please like this comment in 2 months so I can show my maybe ex how I feel.
I'd do it now but he is....away.
Thank you! Because honestly it was starting to get graining how little empathy the reactors had for her.
I always appreciated Miranda. She had to be "twice the adult" to make up for her husband's immaturity and unreliableness. That kind of pressure is exhausting to sustain, and I think it speaks to a lot of women's experiences that they have to be "the villain" while their immature husband gets to be "the fun one". I read a comment somewhere a while ago that society will always choose a fun man over a traumatized woman, even (or especially) if the hardships of the relationship are the reason she became such a miserable person in the first place. Being overworked, under valued, constantly having to be the voice of reason and yet being gaslighted about it, etc can really drain and warp a person. I think there's a lot of misogyny and victim-blaming in the hate that we serve to this type of woman.
Miranda doesn't want to be a bad person - she's just burnt out. She deserves to find happiness, and it was incredibly brave of her to walk away from a marriage that was making her miserable. And I do think it speaks to her character that she realizes her own pain was causing her to be bitter and hurt her kids. I think the movie did a good job of humanizing her, and if people don't appreciate her character it's probably because they just want someone to blame (and like I said, it's easier to hate on a bitter woman than to acknowledge the unfair conditions that got her there).
The film does a good job (imo) of illustrating that there really is no "bad guy" in their relationship - just two incompatible people coming to hard realizations about themselves and their situation, and I love that the film offers an example of reconciliation and growth as they go their separate ways (as opposed to getting back together).
the cut to kim vaping after the anti-smoking scene is peak editing
the urban dictionary popups to explain trans slang were the funniest part of this lol
also "every tgirl can make pasta". beautiful no notes
I actually have never made pasta myself in my life despite learning to cook
My favorite part is when Evasive crawls behind the couch.
Edit: Second is the cats getting snacks from the window. All the times.
@@Florilegium1three cats! At 21:24
All the cats. So many cats.
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Wait I missed this do you have the timestamp
@@cecilross2848 11:37
10:50 Kim vaping during the "smoking is bad" bit, completely unbothered is such a bad bitch move 💀
For those who don't know, the costume design and mannerisms of Robin William's portrayal are based off the real elderly comedian Christine Hamilton. Hamilton founded a comedy group for old people called the Geritol Follies (basically means "old jokes"). This fact went largely unnoticed for a long time because the Geritol Follies were only ever super popular in the midwest.
To this day I quote Harvey Firestein going “Oh I don’t think I have the strength” in his signature raspy voice
One the best lines ever!
I quote him from Independence Day whenever anything goes wrong: “Ohh, crap!”
@@300DBenz”So sue me - DAVID!!!” 😂😂😂😂
@@FeelinErie "David!!! Why did I send my mother to Atlanta???"
LMAO Evasive crawling in the background at 11:38 took me OUT
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The funniest part of this video by far is when it cuts back she's still crawling back there! 🤣
Now that’s what I call an evasive maneuver
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Sooo I am a cis queer woman and went to high school in the early 2000s... during that time the school held a special assembly to tell the entire school that our english teacher was 'becoming trans' and then went on to outline it all, including surgery for a trans woman. We found out a few days later that they were VERY VERY VERY in the wrong to out our english teacher... we never saw her againa nd I'm guessing they gave her a huge settlement for that. I suppose they thought because she was starting to look so feminine that we'd be confused but tbh no one every questioned it when we thought she was a male... no one cared that when she was still 'a man' that she had long hair and earrings and stuff.
Anyway... far from being disturbed by it, no one cared, I distinctly remember Mrs Doubtfire being mentioned by friends in a super positive light in regards to our teacher and we were actually pretty angry when we found out they weren't supposed to out her like that.... she was one of the popular teachers. So I can see how movies like this are def not great these days... but for early 2000s teens who were coming terms with our own sexuality and gender identity it was pretty positive.
this is super interesting wow what part of the world was this??? do you know whatever happened to her?
Jesus Fried Chicken what a dunk
Holy shit. Yeah, I was in high school in 2000. My best friend since preschool was gay. I knew he was gay before he understood. I never said anything to him or anyone else about it. He apparently thought I didn't know and told me in our freshman year. I just looked at him and said, "Honey... I know." When he realized I knew the entire time and never said a word about it, I could see relief wash over him. I was just surprised he didn't know that I knew. He was scared of his mom finding out and possibly kicking him out of the house. We just ~knew~ it was wrong to say anything and out someone like that. But apparently, my generation didn't pass that on to their own kids, and instead found some sort of entitlement to know these things about literally everyone?
That sounds like a nightmare scenario for the teacher. Why would the school ever think that was a good idea?
@@Neithie crazy that they never asked the teacher if it was okay. At minimum they should have been worried about a HIPPA violation
the crawling at 11:50? 😭
"What does the antenna do?"
"Do you remember 9/11 and stuff?"
"No"
"Okay."🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thats not funny, that’s sad… even horrifying sad..
That's how Mobiles look Dumbo. Why do they talk so strange. Such fake piepsige Stimme ? Krank
@@Ateezwooyoung It's horrifyingly sad that people kept being born after 9/11 so wouldn't remember it?
@@Freak80MC yes. Obviously. We should've Children of Menned
fun fact there was an Indian remake of Mrs. doubtfire which was a huge domestic hit and made around 7 million usd in today’s miney
I remember this lmaoo
THE KITTIES EATING KIBBLE IN THE WINDOW IN THE BACKGROUND STOLE THE SHOW!
LOL THE KITTY AT 35:50 ATTACKING INSECTS AT THE WINDOW! STAR!
21:02 for me.
I was like, "WHAT is that creeping into her window!?!?" Is that a lemur? 😅😅😂
I had to pause & search the comments.
@@nilawarriorprincess ME RIGHT NOW
@@nilawarriorprincesshahah
she needs to tell us the story of the kitties!
I have a friend who was inpired by this series and keeps making me watch movies he thinks Evasive would use for it. I've been forced to watch Sorority Boys and Dr. Jekyl & Ms. Hyde. It just isn't fair!
Both of those are on my to-do list!
10 year old me was wild for Dr. Jekyll & Ms. Hyde! lol (A movie I probably shouldn't have rented at that age but my dad never paid attention to anything. *shrug*)
@@EvasiveOneJust One Of The Guys WHEN?!?
@@jyjjy7 Also on my list!!
I honestly love Sorority Boys because they start understanding the hell women go through and sympathizing with them and stuff. It's a silly but fun movie.
As a transwoman, this was & still is one of my favorite movies growing up (born in ‘87 so I do remember 9/11). Seeing the validation Robin got for his performance gave me some confidence in my own life (coming out) but outside of my own family - I’m a very targeted individual sadly (blame The South). The way divorce was handled was the best I’d seen up to my early adulthood (both of my parents divorced but remained friends until my Mom’s passing in April). Also - the blonde in the group is stunning & so relatable..I’m so jealous in many ways!
I don't know you, I randomly stumbled across this channel, and I've got to say this is the BEST idea for a video I have seen in a long time, as whimsical as it is. The girls are so funny and their comments are hilarious.
Here are some of my favourite moments:
- 11:38 : the slow crawl behind the couch
- 15:40 : "I made that face too when I decided..."😂
- 17:40 : Riylan leaning closer and Kim's eyes sparkling with joy like a child
- 18:10 : Lidia transvestigating😆 had me rolling on the floor
- 20:06 : "hellouu" with the little clap is adorable
- 23:56 : "I want the version where he phisically transitions"
- 32:33 : the "oh no" in unison
there were many other moments but I don't want this comment to be essay long.
Anyway, thank you youtube algorithm gods for bringing me here, much love from Italy❤
I love this comment x3
Feel free to add more!
Getting Harvey Fierstein and Harvey Weinstein mixed up is wild lmao
Yeah, I’ve made the same mistake too. Remember, fierstein is the good Harvey.
It must happen a lot. Poor Harvey Fierstein!
One of my friends breathed a sigh of relief during the MeToo movement when they found out it WASN'T Fierstein getting accused of all those things
@@gnalkhere I’ll be honest, I thought Weinstein was gay until the accusations against him.
PSA: Naomi Klein would like to remind you once again that she is not Naomi Wolf.
I never realized it, but besides this movie I don't think I've ever seen other movies that have voice acting being a character's job.
But it's also kinda smart to have Robin's character BE a voice actress, because then it makes sense why he does so many impressions.
At the same time though, Roger Ebert complained we've seen Robin do impressions all the time so it's not that interesting to see more of it. Also, considering the movie takes place in San Francisco, it is a bit weird because you'd think that type of job would be in LA.
Almodovar's "Women on the verge of a nervous breakdown" is one. Lot's of fun
Natasha Richarson and Bob Hoskins are voice over actors for porn movies (they do the sex moans) in The Favor, the Watch, and the Really Big Fish. This movie also features Jeff Goldblum as (kind of) Jesus
“In A World…” is a really funny look at voice acting.
The show better things stars Pamela Aldon as a voice actress and single mother of three.
“Why does his phone have an antenna?”
“Do you remember 9/11?”
That sent me 💀
"is it aesthetic?"
Sent you what
That was a total non sequitur
@@EpioN no, it wasn't
I remember thinking the mother was awful. But now...I get it. Imagine having to basically mother him as well, feeling like the only responsible person in the hone, never being able to depend on your partner or trust them to be sensible, always having to be 'no fun mum' because your partner can't be serious or discipline the kids at all. Screw that. I understand perfectly why she finally snapped and ended it. She might not be very likable but I understand her perspective.
I just learned the term Egg from this video, the first of yours I've watched, and... I might have some questions for the mirror tonight....
I made lesbians watch fried green tomatoes
Problem, that one isnt that bad
i made aro people watch the barbie movie
OMG YES
My first viewing was with a lesbian. I had never seen her grin for such a long time. She loved the film and I had the VHS for ages and it felt right for my first viewing to be with her. When she saw the VHS on my shelf she was grinning from ear to ear like a little schoolgirl
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I didn’t expect this video to involve Blake Lively discourse
"Is the antenna aesthetic" i have crumbled to dust
Are they dumb? Boys that was the 90ies Mobile. Who doesn't know that??
I will NOT take Sally Field's character in Mrs. Doubtfire slander, she had her own needs!
Yes! Maybe our test audience here are a little too young to empathise with her? She comes home to the petting zoo and the mess - and do we think Daniel is going to clean all that up? Looking at his apartment and his cooking and cleaning skills, house work has not been something he has done a lot of until then. She is carrying the mental load and doing the house work, and he gets to be fun and play. It sucks!
@@regitzeillum6713 Agreed. I think if you haven't been in that situation or witnessed it, it's hard to understand. I've seen situations like that before, and it is exhausting. The mom has probably had sleep interrupted and plans upended because of his shenanigans, however well-meaning he might be. And I believe for the purposes of the movie (perhaps unlike some of the men I'm thinking of), he is, but that doesn't change how difficult the situation is for her.
Transitioning to live my life as a woman 🤚
Transitioning to become a nanny so I can see my children 💅
The "It's Pat" Dude Looks Like a Lady callback! Truly living in the Evasive cinematic universe
@@SimonCooper-h4x Evasiverse
@@godmagnus damn that's gd. And it was right in front of me!
@@godmagnus Everse
Obsessed with the Evasiverse
I made gay men watch The Lighthouse
trans mascs review the lighthouse
that movie traumatised me istg
@@user-ys3jh7tw8jYESSSSS
Boost, make it happen
This comment sent me straight into a ptsd flashback.
Long comment ahead:as a trans woman,this movie legit gave me my first f the patriarchy moment,cause i was questioning why he needed to specifically be a female babysitter,why can't he look after his kids as a guy?and why would him putting on a dress suddenly make him a woman?and it made me realize how bs gender roles are,specially clothing since i've always liked both traditionally masculine and feminine clothes and because i saw this movie right after my mom freaked out when i asked her(a manicure btw)to paint my nails and even as a kid i was like "bruh,it's just art on your nails,what could be more gender neutral than something as vague as art?",so this movie was the nail in the coffing(pun intended)that i needed,so thank you Robin Williams for making the raging leftist i am today😊
based
A good awakening, I think
the point you made about him not being able to take care of his kids is simply because the mum wouldn't let or trust him since he asked that he could do it himself and she said some excuse
@@noodledaddy3234 yeah but i meant he logically could have disguised himself as a completely different guy if he apparently had the money to get a whole freaking body suit,i'm sure some make up,different clothes and a wig would be a lot cheaper🤷🏾♀️
@@RubyRider-m6b yeah you have a point
LOL @ that shot of Kim taking a hit from a vape as Robin Williams is "dying" over cigarette smoke.
Mrs. Doubtfire gave me a black eye when I was eight. I laughed so hard I knocked my face into a coffee table and had a bruise for weeks. I’ll never forget this movie
The casting in this movie was 10/10. You need a good ensemble for comedies. Also, we don’t give enough credit to Pierce Brosnan’s face journeys in the movie.
definitely a good choice to have the extra cameras filming every scene instead of trying to have them act out reactions lol
He must be the best "straight man" for comedies I've seen.
🙋🏽♀ Petition to add "well, I was in prison for MAIL fraud" to the Trans Women's Official Joke Book, please!!
It's so good 😭😂🙌🏾💕
As a child of divorce born in 1996 i was the perfect demographic for “found the movie on tv as a child and obsessed over it”
As a child born *after* divorce in 1996, I wonder how my older half siblings feel about this movie
disassemble the Mrs. Doubtfire --> Proudboys pipeline!
My impression is that this movie has no relevance to trans culture or public perception. The character has no struggles with gender, it's entirely an acting role.
On the other hand, being reminded of it in today's climate makes me think it spits in the face of the alpha sigma gigachad grindset obsession of modern young male culture. Here we have a broadly positive and well-liked and inspiring male character who has no need whatsoever to project macho masculinity, doesnt particularly care about career success and is primarily motivated by wanting to spend more time with his children. If I had to pick a role model for directionless young men, this seems like a pretty decent one.
It's really nice that it's pointed out how trans and drag is different~ Would be interesting for drag queens to watch Mrs Doubtfire, since it's much more drag than trans
It's a bit complicated. Since drag queens don't usually dress up with the intent to pass as cis. What Robin's dad character is doing is crossdressing/drag, but actually trying to pass and be stealth about it is much closer to the trans experience.
90s kid here. My parents never divorced, but this was such a staple growing up. Two things to that stood out to me even to this day:
1- every single friend with divorced parents have expressed how important this movie was for them. As a kid, I couldn't comprehend why they were sad. They get two rooms and more toys (I'm also autistic if that helps). It wasn't until the ending message that I fully understood how they internalized divorce. It made my heart feel heavy. It was very much needed for many kids and I'm very appreciative it was said when movies back then needed fairytale endings.
1.5- my parents were ahead of the time. I grew up with this, The Birdcage, and Gloria Estefan (Everlasting Love music vid, anyone?). Even tho it was funny, none of the humor was exactly shock value to me so idk, I'm just grateful lol
2- IT WAS A RUN BY FRUITING!
I don't get the hate for the wife. Robin Williams was a terrible husband. She's working hard while he's wreaking the house and the movie makes it clear it's the straw that breaks the camels back.
True but I still think he should have been able to see his kids. He wasn’t like abusive or anything, just childish and oblivious.
we have no idea if the house would have been cleaned up had she not come home. she references cleaning up after his messes but again, we don't know if he was ever given the chance to "clean up" those either or if she flew off the handle then as well. Obviously Miranda hadn't told him her plans for Chris' birthday since she does it while screaming at him and we see that Daniels was spur of the moment having just quit his job.
She is the beta version of Skyler White to me. She isn't wrong for wanting a divorce but she is wrong for not allowing shared custody. Not one thing that is shown or said gives us reason to think he was not a good father. He went very far to see his kids. He seemed like an overall good man to me, just not someone compatible with Miranda, which see herself says, they grew apart. She fell in love with who he is and she "grew up" compared to him. They made it apparent she thought the custody decision was not right in the court room but decided to say nothing and withhold the kids from him afterwards even though it is 100% in her power to allow him time with the kids.
That's mostly true, but there was no good reason given on why she limited him from seeing their kids. She even got a nanny to look after them instead of allowing him to look after them either at his or her house until she came home knowing how desperate he was to be with his kids.
@@mcdotterson4103 how would a woman who has a fulltime job be saying she cleans up after his messES (plural!) if he ever used the time before she comes home as such "chances" to clean up? we have no reason to assume she is overreacting, he literally let a petting zoo into the house. that scene is meant to make it fucking obvious that he is not responsible enough, at least as an adult who should take care of the house, if not as a parent in specific...
loving your kids is not the same as being a responsible parent or even being a good parent, love does not work as a healing aid to whatever bad traits people might have, including reclessness. and it can even motivate people to behave in ways that are extremely bad for the kids, like if the parent does not want the child to leave, for example.
and wtf is your issue with skylar white? are you for or AGAINST keeping families together where the father has harmful traits? skylar stayed with walt for much longer than she should have. so which one is it?
@davejacob5208 the scene is the tipping point. You don't know if its the same everytime or not. They are essentially establishing a "pattern" off one incident.
lol where does it seem like I have an issue with Skylar white? Was just an easy analogy. Was a character that became known for not being liked because of how they acted even though they were completely justified in what she said/did. No one exaggerates in anger ever right? We are watching a marriage implode.
I see how you could get to "He might not be good for the kids" if you ignore the rest of the movie and what she ends up saying and doing.
I’ve never clicked on something so fast before in my life
So fast that I was late by 10 mins
Same
@@arwenmiranda8112haha. And now the Gays watch Williams in The Birdcage?
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The bus driver and Osgood from Some Like it Hot are in the club of older men falling in love with a cross dressing man and as beautifully accepting of the idea that they fell in love with a possible transwoman. We need more
I mean, to be fair, they live in San Francisco, and there were a lot of LGBTQ+ there even in the 90's. That bus driver might not even be straight.
@Abyrae oh! Some Like it Hot is actually from 1959 and it's set in Florida. Osgood was just straight up down bad for Daphne and said "nobody's perfect" when it's revealed to him. I love the movie and get excited when I get to talk some about it.
@@fosternova4434and in the musical, Daphe finds out she's trans through the experience and Osgood is still accepting of her and they do get married after she transitioned in the end scene so he stands by his views
I remember loving this movie. Trans Child of divorce btw. stuff like this movie and other things that included drag just kinda started my fascination with changing gender. And now we’re here lol
I was expecting another movie reaction with a catchy title from a new channel (to me), that’s simply a watch-along. Yet got such an amazingly edited video! Your narration explaining what scene is happening and then showing your guests reactions, as well as your own is refreshing at least imo. Also the whole backstory segment at the beginning was such a treat, it felt I was watching a documentary with a movie reaction as the bonus feature. I’ll have to be on the lookout for news on that potential documentary esc video over the unreleased Mrs. Doubtfire content, this movie was one of my favorites from Mr. Williams.
Anyways, Amazing work & I’ll definitely be subbing and coming back for more.
Just got your channel recommended to me, and I just want to say as somebody who watches a lot of reaction channels that I really appreciated the backstory section. I never knew most of that stuff, and would love to see this supposed NC-17 cut.
I’ll edit my comment once I actually watch the reaction part to add more substance, but I just wanted to mention that early. Great section for a reaction video, and I’d love if more channels took note.
Great video. Thanks for including that whole ending speech. I’m a child of divorce and I’d forgotten that.
I forgot to mention in the video but I found out that Chris Columbus later said he was “only joking” about the NC-17 version. However according to him the R rated version definitely still exists
@@EvasiveOnewell, I’d love to see all of the versions. I should give this movie a personal rewatch soon.
I actually rewatched this movie recently and it had a lot less transphobic jokes than I expected/remembered… Also yes everyone has said it but I like that the divorce is treated as the good ending. It’s weirdly rare in fiction lol.
there is 0 transphobia in this movie.
@xhelan131 there were a couple trans jokes that went by fast enough you may have missed them, like the phone interview and trying to buy that woman a drink. Compared to other 90s movies' treatment of trans women (see Ace Ventura) the were practically nothing
@@laurambogart but thats not transphobia. you people are just too sensitive.
@@xhelan131 and you old people's brainsand bodies are literally deteriorating, talk about sensitive try and jump and not make your fragile knees crack
@@xhelan131 Those jokes are indeed transphobic, and specifically transmisogynistic. In addition "man in a dress" humor is inherently transmisogynist.
You don't get to dictate to trans people what is and is not transphobia. You people are just too sensitive that minorities can speak up for themselves.
Count me among the Miranda Hillard apologists because I would have wanted to light Daniel ON FIRE! Like, WHAT DO YOU MEAN you're throwing a party for a grounded child behind my back? And not just a regular one but an out of control one with animals and children trashing the house that you aren't even paying attention to? And with what money is this even coming out of?? Not only is the house a mess but he is undermining her authority and being the 'fun' parent nor does he respect her & what she brings to/sacrifices for the family and continues to do so the whole movie.
I don't think Daniel is a bad person but he's was a terrible husband and odds are high that if he hadn't waited until the divorce to actually contribute in all the way Miranda had been begging for that they wouldn't have grown so far apart as to be getting a divorce.
It's also made clear that this isn't out of the ordinary behavior, this was just the tipping point for her.
Yeah, except for the divorce declaration in front of kids (which was emotional, not planned), and picking the kids up early from their time with him I don't think she did anything wrong.
The irony is if Daniel had started being as responsible as Mrs. Doubtfire while they were still married it is likely she never would have stopped loving him. He exhausted her into complacency, then rage. It wasn't that he couldn't change he just chose not to, not until he was terrified. I knew I had grown old when I sided with her 😂
@@trinitybernhardt9944 Yeah, exactly.
Why was he even grounded?
Why is grounding even a thing?
and f.i.y: in a family, NO ONE should have "authority"
I wake up in a cold sweat, tied to a chair in a pitch black room. I try to wrestle my restraints, but I find that my legs have been bolted to the legs of the chair. Suddenly, a light flickers on from the ceiling, revealing Eva holding a monkey wrench in one hand. She bounces it off her other palm and says "It's time to force eggs to watch The Danish Girl"
Love this!
I could not finish that movie.
"Can I propose a drinking game where we take a drink every time Robin Williams embodies a different character?"
Only if you wanna die from alcohol poisoning.
I hated this movie as a kid. Not because Robin Williams didn't kill it in the role. But all the gags. The fact that my family loved it so much and laughed at all the "man dressed as women for laughs" part when I was deeply in the closet and making fun of some of the closest representations of my identity that I saw on tv as social time with my family.
Being a transgirl that far in the closet hurt enough already, I didn't need a reminder that I was a thing to be mocked, never taken seriously.
I'm sorry you went through that :(
the idea of an r rated cut of mrs doubtfire didn't shock me, but the idea of an nc-17 cut is mindblowing. that would either be the best or the worst movie ever?
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I don't understand the difference tbh 😅
@@Kagomai15NC-17 means it's so risque that they wouldn't allow children in the theatre to see it
@@JackTR21 But how is that different from R??
@@Kagomai15 Children cannot see either alone, but as an adult you can bring children under 17 to an R rated movie, you cannot bring them to an NC-17 movie.
I just gotta say, as a queer ace person, being able find content that shares multiple queer experiences from all the letters of our Mafia is heartwarming. I’ve been on RUclips for way too long and this is such refreshing content 😚!
Same.
"Do you, like, remember 9/11 and stuff?"
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I didn't get it. Cell phones had antenna for more signal.
I fucking died at that line 😂
@@BlackSheepNaraim assuming it was to figure out how old she was. if she doesnt remember 9/11 she prob wouldnt remember the time when the phones had antennas
@@naomis-haerin
Yeah, it also depends on if you were rich or not, or if your family were tech savvy or not. I was born 2002 and i grew up with flip phones. Ive heard of people already having computers and shit like that, while we didnt.
THE GIRL WITH THE BLONDE HAIR??? SHE’S SO PRETTY?????? SHE LOOKS SO FUN TO DRAW I JUST MIGHT HAVE TO
Hello Evasive. I just wanted to say that I really appreciate that you add subtitles to your videos
18:07 the cat watching along in the window was so precious 🥺
appearing at 16:57
so cute they start crawling in 3 minutes later
They got any black people in this movie 😂😂
"I was waiting for the black actor"😂
It’s set in San Francisco....in the 90s.....so probably not.
Lmfao😅@@300DBenz
@@300DBenz Yeah, everyone knows that the first Black person moved into San Francisco in '05.
@@300DBenz but where were the asians then?
Thank you so much for the pics of the definitions. Without them, I would have been mostly lost, to be perfectly honest. I also really appreciate how much commentary was being provided by Kim. She was really steering a lot of the video.
Perfect callback, by the way, with the music.
P.S. I don't think it was really necessary for you to have to crawl past in the back, but it made for a pretty funny bit for that split second. Overall, really, really great video, Eva! Great analyses, comparisons, and commentary from everyone, while still having really funny moments. Loved it, as always!
I crawled behind the couch not thinking I was still on camera but with the petting zoo mention it ended up being perfect timing 💖
If you didn't have self-deprecating jokes, would you have any jokes at all?
Mean that entirely in jest, truly! You are a queen of comedy! 💚
What’s most shocking about this video is that you found two people who have never seen mrs doubtfire before
36:00 let the cat in!
I LOVEEEE. So many of the ppl wanting to ban drag and drag queens don't realize that THIS IS DRAG.
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I honestly think most people didn't mind that stuff all that much up until for some reason the powers that be (both media corps and states) felt the need to push it hard and then eventually push it on children as well. Nobody really went out of their way to complain or ban anything back when drag was more of a low key, underground thing, that was also not as strongly associated with specific political views. It's a different beast these days, and I think that's why there's so much more pushback.
@madelaki damn you obviously don't know shit about drag lol
@@madelakiPeople didn’t complain about something that was underground? Imagine that…No one is “pushing” drag on children. The whole point is to show people that something otherwise unfamiliar isn’t bad, isn’t harmful, isn’t scary. Offering an optional activity that people can take their children to isn’t “pushing” anything.
I watched heaps of stuff with drag in it as a kid in the 80's and 90's. I remember everyone loving it and not thinking it was weird at all.
"puppets are non-binary, I feel"
"... all of them?"
"yeeeeaah. riiiggghht?"
i don't know why i found that so hysterical
it was the fact that it was the former "they/them" who said it that got me
No and she's right
@@pipipipurple absolutely
I totally get it, but I can’t explain it.
shoutout the cat in the window at 16:59
edit: top cat moments 21:00, 24:46, 26:26, 36:04
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Please help me my name and support link is in the description as the first person only 10 dollars can change my life
LETS GOOO they’re also at 16:30 (and earlier than that too :) )
This movie and Birdcage did so much for me in regards to unique family situations ending up in a relatively wholesome way. Like they weren’t afraid to show the reality of divorce in this movie (despite how unreal this plot is) and not have a sappy ending where the couple gets back together or both end up with a perfect new spouse at first sight.
And seeing two gay men having raised a now-adult kid, and be in essentially a full on marriage during a time when that life was nearly unknown to most people and having that be an unquestioned fact and not the butt of the many, many jokes was so cool.
I loved Robin as a comedian as a kid, and ended up ADORING his movies upon revisiting them as an adult. I never realized how deep they were when I first watched them.
Im the oldest of 4 kids and I grew up loving this movie. Somehow my youngest sister (I’m 9 years older) had never seen it and she was having an awful night. We watched it at like 3am and I always remember just how much she laughed watching it. Cheered her right up. ❤
As a dude with divorced parents this movie fucking slaps.
Same except my dad didn't give that much of a damn
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also that cat that kept coming in and out of the window was cute as hell
I’ve never seen that cut final bus driver scene. It’s so damned wholesome, I wish they’d left it in.
13:53 he's to hairy to be a Twink, a lack of hair is one of the three qualifiers of a twink. He's an Otter. A Otter is basically someone who has the Hair of a Bear but not the size.
oh wow I think I'll have to change my status from twink to otter then
An*
as a really hairy man i still very much call myself a twink. it really doesn't matter lol
He's a human being. And are you unironically this fixated over the 'twink' rulebook?
@@girzarro these terms are vague at best anyway, so go nuts
I swear I'm not a lesbian for any of those women you had watch this movie but like WHY ARE ALL OF THESE WOMEN GORGEOUS
I hate to be the bearer of great news, but
"Puppets are non-binary, I feel"
"...all of them?"
I mean, Gonzo from The Muppets surely is.
A person of culture, I see.
16:58 spooky kitty in the window
Thank you, Good catch!
Madame Doubtfire was a local legend here in Edinburgh. I met Anne Fine around 1990, and always loved the book, later the movie.
"This is the Citizen Kane of the 90's."
I loved the behind the details you provided here Evasive, and I barely noticed you crawling around. Your guests are awesome and hilarious. Thanks you all for the fine content.
"I was in prison for mail fraud," god, still that man is able to make me laugh out of the blue. I miss him every day.
@@Levyathyn Please help me my name and support link is in the description as the first person and also here is only $10 that can change my life
lol “male fraud” 😅😅
I am addicted to all of your videos. Addicted.
unfortunately there's no cure it's a lifelong condition
@@BarackLesnar
How was it for you ?