How GODZILLA MINUS ONE and GODZILLA X KONG Both Defied the Odds
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- Опубликовано: 8 апр 2024
- They couldn't be more different, yet they both did gangbusters in theaters. Let's figure out how that happened.
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We are entering a Godzilla renaissance my fellow G-fans. It's about time the big G got his big break.
This isn’t the Godzilla renaissance, the 2020’s are the Kaiju Renaissance
@@sabretoothtiger4314 The 2010s were the kaiju Renaissance, everyone was getting newer adaptations of media, not just goji. Ultraman. Pacific rim, kong and even gridman came out of dormancy
@@Kaiju-bm4tsin the 2020’s, new brands like Titanic Creations are stepping into the ring, Gorgo, Youngary and Pulgasari have returned, the Monsterverse is in full swing, and even Gamera came back! Both were equally amazing
Agreed, he is the literal biggest star in Hollywood, all hail the King of the Monsters and of Cinema.
1954-1968: The Golden Age
1968-1975: The Silver Age
1984-1998: The Bronze Age
1999-2013: The Dark Age
2014-Now: The Diamond Age
Honestly I couldn’t be more happier that Godzilla is finally getting the recognition he deserves. Especially respect. Godzilla Minus One is a masterpiece and GxK is a fun ride from beginning to end. It’s the best of both worlds.
Godzilla is more popular than ever and I couldn't be any happier.
This. Clear and simple.
L. Godzilla and the fanbase was better when it was niche.
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If you feel that way, then delve into the overall Tokusatsu medium to stay put with the niche.
My dude is spitting straight facts, Minus One and GxK are on completely different ends of the spectrum in terms of genre but they're both handled respectfully. It's a massive W for both because the people making them actually put passion, respect and dedication into the movies instead of bashing people over the head with political agendas.
It's a good time to be a Godzilla/Kong fan. You've definitely got a new subscriber.
I think the reason we're seeing Godzilla do so well is simple:
Disney and DC kinda soured the waters for superhero movies and people wanted something else, hence the need to watch some Kaiju movies.
Idc I enjoy it all. Kaiju, superhero, Sci fi. I love it all.
@@ragemonkey117Im glad you enjoy them but for the regular audience that goes and sees it, a.k.a. non nerds like us. Are tired of the Shitty Superhero movies that push messages rather than enjoyable movies.
They didn't sour them... They polluted them with so much DEI/woke bullshit the average consumer doesn't even want to bother with anything might've liked to see (if the woke DEI crap was force fed into it).
Yup.
Marvel decided to preach instead of teach.
@@TheMonkePrince
So does Godzilla.
Omni Viewer explain that viewers.
Why is Godzilla the best franchise? Versatility. You can have both! If Godzilla was always Minus One or New Empire, it would never have lasted 70 yrs. Godzilla is both & everything in between & that's a very great thing.
The success of both these two different movies proves that there is indeed an considerate size audience for both types of Godzilla movies.
And that they can both exist at the same time.
If we really want Godzilla to be successful, it needs to appeal to as many different audiences as possible. And it's also possible for people to like and enjoy both.
Godzilla in general has been doing incredibly well recently, so really there is no reason why any G fan should be upset.
There's something in this franchise for anyone, regardless of what you're preference is.
I’m honestly really happy that both of these projects succeeded. Especially GxK.
When the first trailer for GxK released and all the backlash came through I was almost sure this film was finished. Which made me sad because I was honestly liking what I was seeing. It made the hype train bitter sweet.
But it defied the odds and succeeded. I’m glad.
Hence why it's best to go in there blind than see part of the movie through the trailer. Anyway, both movies are awesome in their respective tone and genre. It's the very first time a godzilla movie won an oscar award with best visuals through Minus One. And Godzilla x Kong New Empire, gosh dang we have a modernized showa godzilla film that brought me so much nostalgia for how crazy it is! It's good to be a godzilla fan!
GODZILLA MINUS ONE and Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire, are the 2 sides of the same coin.
Marvel: It’s over nine THOUSAND!!!!!
DCU: Wut nine thousand???!!
If Marvel and DC ever cross over for a movie, I think Godzilla should crossover with them as well.
@kingjohn8980 That is possible if they have interest in doing so and as long Toho agrees with some terms it should be cool. However, Godzilla did crossover both properties. The first was with Marvel comic back in the late 70s and currently with the DC comics.
@@kingjohn8980 Funny you mention that since he did crossover with both of em in the comics.
All Hail Godzilla King of the Monsters may his Reign Continue Forever what a Time to be a Godzilla Fan Long Live The King 🤴
Im new to the channel so first impressions leave the best marks right? So the moment i saw you SO well dressed(the hat completly blew me away) surrounded by kaijus just to talk abt godzilla i knew id have a blast with the video.
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Welcome aboard. Hope you enjoy your stay.
I wanted my serious Godzilla and I got that with Minus One. Now I want my fattening dessert with good ole kaiju smack downs, and I got that with GxK. I got both within months of each other at the theater. I'm happy.
I like how GxK made an attempt to give Godzilla and Kong some actual character traits. Minus one and GxK are two sides of the same coin. Godzilla can be both serious and grounded to reality while GxK is balls to the wall insanity where Godzilla does crazy shit.
There are Godzilla fans. Then there are those who see minus one as their first Godzilla and forget that Godzilla has been around longer than they've been alive. Monsterverse is wrapping up for sure. The next movie will be Godzilla centered. The final movie will probably be much darker, because Godzilla or Kong or both will go out busting skulls.
MonsterVerse:
> Minimum of 2 new Shows coming out
> Monarch Getting a Season 2
> Another Film practically guaranteed
Yes.... clearly the MonsterVerse is winding down.
@@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim Yeah... I don't think the MonsterVerse is going anywhere anytime soon.
I wish for a NEW Gamera film that could rival "Godzilla Minus One".
Let Yamazaki and kaneko cook together
I’m just hoping for Gamera to return to the big screen period. Gamera Rebirth was fantastic, but still
We definitely need a new Gamera movie for sure.
@@Alzilla09 Hell yeah! I'm definitely going to watch a new gamera movie if it came out!
It’s also worth noting King Kong is now 91 years old. And while I and others might have issues with Godzilla being slightly undercut in New Empire, we should be happy to see Kong being treated well too (and I was very happy to see the big ape go in a happier direction instead of being killed over and over again, and besides we wouldn’t have Gojira if it weren’t for Kong).
True…True. But then again Kong was partial to Godzilla’s creation. After Kong wasn’t the only one since the Beast from 20,000 Fathoms as well as Godzilla’s real inspiration the atomic bomb were also responsible for Godzilla’s creation. Although I give him props for even starting this whole show of giant monsters.
@@Alzilla09 the Rhedosaurus nowadays is pretty basic as far as giant monsters go but I wouldn’t mind seeing it get more love.
Looking back in retrospect, Kong is the longer living movie monster with a reputation just as prestigious as Godzilla's, but where the latter surpassed the former is having an actual franchise to call his own. All Kong had so far had been three movies that tell the same story by Merian C. Cooper, which are the only Kong movies people know the most. Any other attempt to do something different and start off a Kong franchise (like the Toho films, cartoons, etc.) have all been met with utter failure, thus reduced to near obscurity as Godzilla was at one point. Even in the MonsterVerse, which doesn't handle one character's legacy but two, Godzilla goes through an epic journey to be crowned king in his Hollywood sequel while Kong still rules over a tiny island with tiny monsters and humans as his subjects, still being somewhat within the confines of what came before. Now, the last two entries, in what could be argued as two halves of one big story that is entirely Kong focused, breaking him free from Skull Island and into a new world of adventures, sequels, more stories; free of Cooper's shadow and become something new while still respecting what came before.
Speaking as a G-fan, if Godzilla having to take a backseat for a while means more time to properly develop Kong so that he can finally on the former's level and have his own King of the Monsters arc, then so be it.
@@MrAwsomeness360 that’s a sentiment I felt. I see no reason to not have both and let them take turns so both have time in the spotlight.
I think of Godzilla x Kong as Kong's 90th anniversary film.
Aquaman getting R Kelly'd was kinda funny considering Amber Heard was responsible for one of those instances
For many of us, as life-long kaiju fans, there is a sense of just feeling blessed right now. These past several months could not have been written any better. Both Godzilla movies, box-office successes, with Minus One breaking records for a foreign film. Minus One winning an Academy Award. And not to mention that Monarch: Legacy of Monsters was both a critical and viewership success, despite some G fans not being totally enthusiastic about season one (yes, even I thought it uneven at times). But everything could have gone against the grain, and the fate for Godzilla could have been catastrophic.
My older military vet barber, who is a Godzilla fan, said -1 was "Bitchin"
„Bitchin‘ Good“ Or „Bitchin‘ Bad?“
I think even the vast majority of a Kaiju fans that were expecting minus one to be high quality add no clue the quality we were actually going to get
I chock up the problems with King Of The Monsters mostly to legitimate competition from other movies
Omni I think you are spot-on. I didn't think about the respect aspect either but that is what it takes, to respect the franchise, the characters, and the source material, what the movie viewers want to see.
I think its important to remember Godzilla Vs Kong came out at the worst time possible and for a lot of that year was the highest earning movie in cinemas. Like for a Covid movie it was a wild success...it was just a covid movie.
It's also important to remember that a lot of the budgetary success of the Monsterverse has been merchandising and in that regard they're a very successful venture for studios.
I genuinely do not think the Monsterverse has made a bad movie (a dubious cartoon and lots of eh comics) but no bad movies. And Minus One hits a whole different film genre so well.
It's a good time to be a fan
Agreed!
This is the biggest W i have ever seen for the G man. Hell yeah what best time to be a g fan.
Thank you eternally Omni Viewer for an extremely intriguing and captivating, in depth analysis of reasons why the films Godzilla: Minus One and Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire, did phenomenally well at the cinemas/ box office. You made some exceptional points about the films' success especially the one about the characters being respected in their respective films, definitely something to be kept in one's memory when considering these films. Congratulations to both cinematic masterpieces, the respective studios that created them and the two directors that helmed said creations. May the success of the Godzilla franchise continue to grow, flourish and increase exponentially!!!!!!!🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤❤❤❤👍👍👍👍👍👍👍.
There's a beauty in the modern Godzilla movie making. The 2014 Godzilla was made for people in my age group (35-55) who grew up with the character and always dreamed of a big budget Godzilla movie made by Hollywood. Wouldn't that be great? Well, we got it and I was very happy. It was a legitimate drama, a message, and the G-man. It wasn't perfect and it didn't make as much as it could have but we got our wish. I was hoping that's what the future of the monsterverse was. It didn't turn out that way.
It turned out that the American movies embraced the cheese and over-the-top stuff and Japan went OG and got back to their serious drama roots. The sides effectively flipped. At first I was sad but then I realized: both sides get what they want. There are still Godzilla movies being made about the horrors of science and man and there are over the top WWE with dinosaur movies being made for a whole new generation of kids to fall in love with. The Monsterverse is introducing Godzilla to a whole new generation of kids that will grow up with those being their favorite movies.
My grandkids will have Godzilla movies to fall in love with and watch for generations to come.
Brillant Points Stated, My Good Sir! „Godzilla Minus One“ And „Godzilla X Kong: The New Empire“ Are Two Sides/Aspects Of The Very Same Coin Which Has Defined This Franchise For These Last 7+ Decades!
I think the lesson is that Godzilla has tanked through every obstacle for 70 years. We can have both worlds because of the strength of his legacy - Godzilla is more than the sum of his parts.
In a way - we can thank GxK and the like for even putting us in a position to have Minus One. And Minus One is proof that we can still have kickass films that remember the core of what Godzilla is. That both evade direct allegories to current politics is a big bonus.
And YES. Respect for Godzilla shines through - imagine how many awesome movies and shows we could have right now if creators would stop shitting on their material and audiences (cough cough, Halo, Witcher, cough)
Now if only Bagan could make it into a film.
Couldn’t have said it better myself good video my man.
Haven't really watched minus one but people act like it's the greatest thing since sliced bread.
You're right, Omni. No matter how many times Wile E. Coyote falls off the cliff / fails to catch the Road Runner, Ralph Wolf fails to steal the sheep away from Sam Sheepdog, and / or Pinky and the Brian fail to take over the world, it's still funny.
This is the kind of sentiment that really is worth repeating: Godzilla (alongside his contemporaries) stayed to the course, no matter the bumps and hurdles it had to face on the road, while the rest of the world got distracted by and stuck in stupidity.
On a more serious rant: it really pains me to see that, only when everything else be brought to ruin, Godzilla FINALLY earned his long overdue acknowledgement from the masses (after almost a century of being the punching bag in the world of cinema goers). It truly shows that, people will only get to realized the significance of the things they used to know and love, when it completely snatched away from them.
Cuz of that, when they seemingly got no choice than to enjoy something that seems familiar only by a mile wide, they never would have thought that it still got the long lost things they thrown away for the sake of this currently hot BS they THINK is good shizz; the heart and earnest will to entertain people.
Genuine praise to you for helping clearing the brain fog in people's mind as to why everything has gotten this way for this franchise in this time period. I'm saddened to see that there are a shocking amount of people, who becomes more and more stupid in general about LITERALLY anything (have to confess that I myself, regretfully, also starting to become one of them) that tried making sense as to why everyone and everything has become this way, when they themselves are practically clueless and even outright unable to accept the situations in front of them.
P.S. Genuine curiosity - do you still believe in yourself?
As someone who loves both sides of goji equally I’m so happy we got 2 movies that did both sides so well. I love both and they were amazing experiences.
One thing that really blows my mind about GxK is that it had the lowest budget and is nearly the highest grossing in Legendary-verse so far
The real story about GxK is still to be written (Alteori did a video this week that comes closest), and that is the vicious reception that anyone who is not on the hype train and expressed any critique of the movie received. I myself expressed a few concerns very politely and was told I was not a true fan (although I have every G movie on DVD/BR) was "either an idiot or uneducated", or just a goof who lives in my mother's basement (I am 60 years old with two advanced degrees who lives 600 miles from my parents) or (my favorite) I was clearly a smoothbrain for having a YT name indicating the possibility of unknown creatures still exiting on earth. I have accordingly dumped most of the 50 odd kaijutubers I was subbed to. I will continue to watch Kaiju movies books and comics but will do so without the social media poison poured out by the Eternal Children that comprise most of Kaiju fandom.
i have watch GODZILLA x KONG 2 times now and i'm planning to watch it again this weekend
i'll support all the GODZILLA Movies
Right on all counts.
Good video Omniviewer. BTW, when the monster verse celebrates its 10th anniversary, will you do a video analysis on this cinematic universe as whole? A retrospective video, if you will.
About the “respect”, I could say the same. Plus, the 1998 cartoon also had a huge respect for the character even if it was trying to be like the Showa Godzilla films with stuff like tone and storytelling styles, and infamously making Godzilla have a MATE!!
Respect. Great point, Omni. Best classic example of a truly silly movie that succeeded by treating its classic characters with reverence and respect: Abbot & Costello Meet Frankenstein.
People thought Skar King was an allegory for Joe Biden?! 😂😂
I just wanted to make it very clear that not being an allegory in one direction doesn't mean he's an allegory in the other direction.
My dad jokes Skar King is Trump solely because he’s red/orange.
@@omniviewer2115 I mean we can agree Joe Biden has been the most incompetent President in US history, and the thing about incompetence is Hanlon's razor "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." And no doubt, Skar King was malicious!
The only piece of stupidity I've seen people try to apply to Skar King is he could have left Hollow Earth at anytime once Kong's trap accidentally opened access between the Subterranean part of Hollow Earth to the rest of the Hollow Earth. But the problem with that is there were no portals to the surface in the Subterranean part of Hollow Earth as seen in the film, and Skar King's search party that trashed the MHES camp couldn't find a portal, UPTIL one of the kong's followed Kong and Suko to the Iwi village and spotted a portal to escape to.
@@yuyaricachimuel555 But Skar King never dyed his hair blond, and he doesn't even have hair on his scalp!
@@kasaibouF29 yeah well it’s just a little joke anyway it’s not worthy of analysis xD
i miss the hype, i hope they announce a new movie soon
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Now all we need is a Gamera movie 4 the Monsterverse n have the movie take the best elements from the Showa n Heisei eras n use them to make a good/ great film
Yes I wept at the end of Godzilla Minus One. Not just because of what I experience watching the movie, but also because I knew it would be accepted by the friends & classmates that teased me my whole childhood life, cause I loved Godzilla.
Gxk has basically no competition throughout April, so it's should have steady legs.
Unfortunately I think Civil War dethrones it this week.
11:20 Or Godzilla's Revenge.🤯
Normies: minus 1 good, godzilla x kong bad.
G fans and cultured peeps: wonderful cinema
($444,391,510) Godzilla x Kong box office Baby !!!
lets GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!
With Marvel out of the picture after failing over and over again in theese latest movies/series, people seem to be trying new things and im glad they got fond of the franchise 😊
"Ah Respect... Now that is a word I have not heard in a long time... a long time."
And I agree, that is what has made the difference with both these films. In terms of Western entertainment, it feels like a completely lost concept.
It is rather hilarious to look at all of the "Mainstream" IP's, the popular ones, the prestigious ones, the "High Art" and the Americana... all of them now lying disgraced, humiliated, destroyed.
Disrespected.
And what character is among the last one's standing?
The "silly rubber monster suit stomping cardboard buildings." Yeah, that guy, not only has endured, he has shown everyone else up... twice.
As much as I complain about how protective & controlling Toho can be, I have to appreciate them for ensuring Godzilla has not traveled the same road to dishonor that has taken so many others.
I only hope they can maintain that into the future. I surely do.
Wait until you find the Godzilla analog horror series
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GOSTZILLA
It's so weird that -1 doesn't have a english dub while having a brazilian portuguese dub here and not many japanese Godzilla movies have dubs here, i think i can count them on one hand lol.
I feel like we won't see one until the western home media release. Shin probably got it faster because of Funimation handling the distribution over here.
I hope we see a crossover with Pacific Rim and Godzilla Vs. Gamera movie someday.
The funny thing is that The virgin Paleo community basically did the opposite by saying prehistoric planet is better than JWD, I’m glad that wasn’t the same with Godzilla minus one and GXKTNE
When you have animals that used to be real vs animals (kaiju) that never existed, of course one community is gonna be more obsessed with realism than entertainment.
Cryptozoology @@Kaiju-bm4ts
Prehistoric planet also had some inaccurate designs which were outdated yet was not widely discussed, trex feathers, no evidence of such, and sauropod ballon necks.
GxK>>>>>>>>>>>>>Minus One
Incorrect opinion, both are peak
😠 Hey Omni leave the Gamera Showa movies alone
Solid video overall, but I find your statement that "people on the left" were claiming that Scar King was going to be an allegory for Donald Trump to be odd.
I could be mistaken, but it sounds like you're conflating liberals with leftists. The positions of a few random radlibs on Twitter aren't indiciative of what people who are actually on the left believe.
This being an off-the-cuff unscripted video, I won't necessarily think to clarify every single thing I say. Rest assured, however, that me saying people on the left" is not meant to conflate liberals with leftists, nor is me saying "people on the right" meant to conflate conservatives with rightists.
Basically, saying "people on the left/right" is just how it came out of my mouth, nothing more.
It does not matter if its serious or not, godzilla is godzilla... Pepole who keep bashing one over the other for no reason are down right stupid.
So he was Godzilla in 98 too I’m assuming.
@@alexgomez6723 in name ONLY as far as im concerned
@@KrystianZieba-kc8tx So is Godzilla versatile?
@@alexgomez6723 g versatile?
@@KrystianZieba-kc8tx Is Godzilla versatile or not?
Zero woke-ness in both films that's one of the reasons the public love them.
Godzilla vs Kong proved people are tired of woke garbage.
Minus one proved how budget means nothing.
GXK proved people are tired of hollywood superhero movies.
Both have proved how much you can accomplish with so little, considering the budgets for these two movies.
(19:15) Exactly, and because of the success of both films I think this will mean that the Godzilla franchise is gonna keep on going for a bit longer than we originally thought and possible grow even more in popularity (which is awesome). Granted I guess you can say that it's already popular currently but depending on how much longer both Toho and Legendary can continue to go on in the next few years then I think the Godzilla series (or even the Kaiju genre in general) may not be a niche any longer. So anyone thats been saying that "We cant have both", we'll clearly you've been proven wrong about it. 🛩☢🚢🦖🤝🦍🕳🌎🦧
(0:58) Also speaking of E.T.N I think it would be cool to see you talk to Rob again on another future stream of his (especially in terms of discussing the success of both of these movies and what may come next). 🎙🤩💻