550マラネロ登場!! フェラーリ vs.国産最速軍団 鈴鹿バトル【Best MOTORing】1999
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- 550マラネロ登場!! フェラーリ vs.国産最速軍団 鈴鹿バトル【Best MOTORing】1999
ENTRY CAR
Ferrari 550 maranello
Ferrari F355 berlinetta
MITSUBISHI LANCER RS EVO 6
SUBARU IMPREZA type R STI 5
NISSAN SKYLINE GT-R V-spec BNR34
MAZDA RX-7 RS FD3S
HONDA NSX type S Zero
DRIVER
黒澤元治 / Motoharu Kurosawa 土屋圭市 / Keiichi Tsuchiya
中谷明彦 / Akihiko Nakaya 黒澤琢弥 / Takuya Kurosawa
原貴彦 / Takahiko Hara 竹内浩典 / Hironori Takeuchi
木下隆之 / Takayuki Kinoshita
STAGE 鈴鹿サーキット / SUZUKA CIRCUIT
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NSXが355と戦えてるのはもちろん凄いんだけど、それ以上に感銘を受けるのは2台と良い勝負をするエボ6だよ…
すっごく良い車作ってたんじゃんか、三菱はさぁ。この頃を思い出してくれよ
tkoga 1123 それは無茶振りかと。ランエボなんて1年1年わざわざ出さないといけないんだから大変だね。だからランエボを作るのをやめたのでしょう。
というより、三菱の経営状況か?
忘れちゃいないと思いますよ。ただ経営がね…。
NSXが355と戦えるのが凄いのではなくて、エボⅥに勝って、NSXについて行ける355が凄いのです。実は先代モデルの458までのフェラーリは、見掛け倒しのハリボテで、458は、NA2リッターのFTOよりも遅いと言う代物でした。NSXの登場に衝撃を受けて、フェラーリが初めて真剣に作ったロードカーが355なのです。
yuta S 348ですよね
中谷さん鬼シフトすぎるでしょ、、こんだけ渡り合えたらコスパも最強ランエボしゅごい、、
個人的には90年代の車が魅力的なのは280馬力規制だと思う。
280馬力というルールの中で、どれだけ速くできるか?って事をみんな考えてた。
軽さを求めたNSX、旋回性能を求めたRX-7、トルクを求めたスープラやGTOに駆動方式を極めたGT-R。
そしてWRCのレギュレーションもあり、2Lという条件の中で究極を目指したランエボとインプレッサ。
おそらく90年代に300馬力以内の車を持って来てレースしたら上位は日本車が独占しただろう。
結果的にサーキットでは100馬力や時に200馬力以上パワー差があっても勝てる程の完成度になった、
それが今見ると「素晴らしい車」なんだと思う。
とてもすばらしい意見だと思います!
同感です!
本当に素晴らしい意見だと思います。
縛りの中で速さを求めた結果が、スポーツカー黄金時代の最速軍団を生み出したのは間違いないですね。
moto gp
過去のべスモの動画ご覧になられていますか?
一気に差がついたのは事実ですが、元々遅かった日本車が開発を進めて外車に追いついたのがこの動画の頃です。
馬力も値段も格上の車と勝負出来ているのは足回りを煮詰めた結果。
あとコスパ的に考えても妥協では無く相応の装備かと。
CarPorn MotorShow Mania 280馬力規制の時代は車も安い買ったからね。
作る側もあれこれ考えるから楽しいだろうし、ベスモなんかも差が少ないバトルになるから見てても面白い。
ある一定のルールがあった方が技術は進歩するのかもね。
軽自動車なんかも、限られた規格内でどう魅力的な車を作るか試行錯誤してるのがよく分かる。
If these older videos had subtitles, I'd be fluent in Japanese by now!
こうして見ると今じゃ絶対に見られない、とても贅沢なレース!
Nakaya, Dori Dori, and Gan San is always in their own class in these videos. My favorite character is Dori Dori, but my favorite driver is Nakaya. No one can drive a production EVO like Nakaya.
He does well in the 3000GT and NSX sometimes
@@hybridAbsol if you're talking nsx, you're talking Gan San
Hands down the EVO is the best car there. You got to be kidding me, a 4 door family saloon giving them such a hard time, that's simply amazing.
Rabbon-I The Genesis, but wee didn't uderstand what's happened with the STI-5🤔
An Evo isn't a mere "4 door family saloon" - it's a rally car.
I wouldn't be that impressed. The driver is forced to throw it into slides so that it does not under-steer... probably isn't as much fun to drive after a few laps. Additionally, it's interior and comfort creatures are by far the worst of the bunch.
I perfer the RX-7 and NSX
Romo VA you buy a evo for the engine and drivetrain not the interior
なんやかんや、ランエボ✖️中谷さん最強説笑
ナカヤーエボリューションだからな
That f355 waz literally screaming over the entire field 😍 eargasmic
NSXとF355が張り合えていたというのがすごいよね。
ホンダはすごく誇りに感じていたはずだよなぁ。
もう一度ホンダに、世界がビックリする、自信をもって誇れるだけのリアルピュアスポーツを作ってほしいなぁ。
しかもSゼロのNSXでだもんね
タイプRだったらもっと差が付いてたでしょ
この頃のホンダは神
Acura NSXはまじで許せん…
@@larutan0430 みんなNC1のNSX批判してるけど、あの車とんでもない車やぞ...
エアコンも遮音材もないサーキット用モデルだからね。エボⅥも。GT-Rも足を固めて快適性を犠牲にしたVスペック。
NSX タイプS やノーマルNSXグレードで他の車も勝負できたらいいね。
Lol you wish, and the fake ferrari can’t compete with real ferrari, they just want nsx to win
6:48の木下さん、まじで好き!
純粋に車の事が好きだから、ああいう反応になるんだろうなあ。
中谷さんAYC無いランエボで倍以上の価格のクルマ達について行くとかヤバすぎww
5:10のとこF355めっちゃいい音
鬼に金棒と同義の言葉は間違いなく中谷にランエボだな
5:43 中谷シフト
というかこのバトルは基本中谷シフト全開
中谷シフトまじでかっこいいよね
that 355, what a beautiful drive it must be. Same with the nsx. Also goes to show how impressive the evo is then too.
値段の倍以上もする車を追っかけ、抑えて、ランエボカッコ良すぎw
This is one of the most aggressive best motoring episodes I've seen 👍
NSX pure sports car.
JDMcam702 1 One of the best sport cars ever built ! This NSX S Zero, was originaly a prototype (which finaly got sale under this name) for the NA2 NSX R, so it simply show well how good would be the work for the new NSX R. Still the S Zero stay the lighter NSX built !
Chouun Shiryu that 355 has 380hp, a HUNDRED MORE THAN THE NSX, Think Again.
Chouun Shiryu and it still won the race
Chouun Shiryu that F355 has a 3.5V8 375hp, that NSX? Type S Zero 3.0V6 270hp, THAT F355 is no match for The NSX
Honda win
Love this one but I rate the evolution the most!
The sound of that 355 3.5L V8 is just 👌🏽. Made me wanna go fire up my Dreamcast for some F355C action 🔥
„Made me wanna go fire up my ferrari“
Nope
„Made me wanna go fire up my dreamcast“ haha 👍🏻
HONDA POWER 🙌🏼👊🏼 NSX❤️
土屋さんのオンボードマジで惚れ惚れする
That was some on edge driving from Tsuchiya and Gan-San, Tsuchiya especially.
Man, Gan'san was driving like and old lady, that Ferrari was from someone so it couldn't release all her potential.
@@thesis4349 Not at all ! Gan-san don't care about the owner of the car, when he race, he race ! He's not joking with these things ! Simply the NSX S Zero was better than the 355. For your information, the NSX S Zero was the prototype test version for the new NSX R NA2 (so she got the new 3.2L engine). Only 3 NSX S Zero was made, and It's still the lightest one in NSX production sold versions.
@@djorksolo8544 I agree, Gan-san is basically The Stig - whatever they give him, he drives it as fast as it can go. He wouldn't have been taking it easy in the Ferrari to allow a Japanese car to win. You could see him countering oversteer at times. I suspect it would have taken more skill to get the same pace from the F355 as from the Evo, and definitely the NSX only won because of being a better car.
@@thesis4349 Gan san is the most dangerous, reckless of all the BM drivers. He NEVER holds back. In fact, being the most senior, he drives like he has the RIGHT to win.
5:16
Rotary Power FTW
Stock Vs Anything Stock The FD is A well balanced engineered born Track beast
But it lost to a 4cyl 4door sedan... :)
i love how an EVO 6 kept up with a ferrari and the car that inspired the Mclarin F1. goes to show how great they are.
Gan-San and M. Ayrton Senna did a great job designing the NSX at that specific circuit.
Спасибо!
ベスモは筑波でばかり競うからどうもランエボとかインプレッサ、RX-7が車格を超えてスゴイ!と(確かにスゴイんだけど)思われがちだけれど、鈴鹿ほどのサーキットの限界走行になるとやはりNSXとかフェラーリとか最初から空気を切り裂ける「走るカタチ」で造られてるクルマが速いんですね。
金がないからっていつまでも筑波なんかでやっているから編集部の責任も大きい。メーカーから資金援助してもらって鈴鹿や富士メインにしてほしい。
These guys are fantastic drivers.
Just an english comment passing by.
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The R34 and RX7 made contact!
Rubbin' is racing.
this is epic
that Four banger evo is killing it with the big boys broooo 🔥🔥🔥🔥
4G63T FTW !
Love that Mitsu... fav from Tokyo H. Battle
300万ちょいでこの性能持っているから、ランエボはバケモンだな…
ドライバーの中谷さんもかなり凄いです。
These were some good times, this people really enjoy i wish i can speak Janapese
A 4 cylinder saloon which costs a fraction of the other cars is lancing the competition.
_lancing_
That 355 is beautiful, the silouhette is so balanced and aggressive, low and super wide like a squating predator ready to jump on its prey, beautiful car with a beautiful sound and performance 👌
One of best looking Ferrari in my opinion
Awesome video
ガンさんの良いところ
いつでも本気勝負!
ガンさんの悪いところ
いつでも本気勝負!
wwwww
The lan evo was beyond surprising!
No Automatic, No Airconditioner. Only Pure racing with 90's sports car.
中谷さんのアクセルベタ踏みシフトチェンジに憧れたっけなぁ
GSRだったとしても鈴鹿を3周はAYCが悲鳴あげそうw
A better start from the RX7 would have kept it up there with the front 3. Loved it when it breezed by the R34
中谷さんほとんどアクセル抜いてないw
大丈夫なのか?
Glad that Japan’s Honda NSX got to show ferari who’s boss on Suzuka Circuit. Seeing the Nissan GT-R and Subaru Impreza Type R STi struggle to keep up was kinda funny though.
82607492 I’m not sure you know what you’re talking about
@@DRsx4 550 was completely stock and 355 only had an exhaust lol!
those 3 infront really push themselves. my praise to the evo 4 that manages to keep up to those high powered cars in front.
The evo is same power than the NSX. There was a japanese laws regulations about power limits at 280hp. Only the Ferrari is more powerful, but didnt managed to win even so !
Nakaya is always very fast with Evo-s.
Mark Vinewood Nakaya is a ex rally pro driver, this is why with an impreza or lan evo is always very fast !
Mark Vinewood but the evo clearly show its limits, the tires get was getting too hot and difficult to handle. But still an amazing run with only a 2,0L 4 cyl !
@@djorksolo8544 evo hard to handle lmao thats funny
@@djorksolo8544 The Evo's biggest killer on this track was the long straight, the short gearing was pretty useless at that part compared to the long revs of the NSX and F355
And when driving a Porche!
Really goes to show how much Suzuka favours MR cars, especially those s bends they where just leaving everything else behind
New sport xperimental 👑
wow... Tsuchiya-San and his balls of steel passing just before the high speed 130R !
I love the NSX, and holy... was this a display of chassis+pilot synergy : )
Evo full throttle on them up shifts 👌🏼
I still love Rx7 FD3S QAQ
NSX Sゼロ、まだ上にNSX-Rがいるから恐ろしいね。
ND 1029 実際どっちが速いんですか?
広報車だったら、多分同じでしょう。ホンダはこの手の試乗取材だと、広報車を積車で持ち込んで、レーシングチームのようなメカニックがわらわらと大勢付いてくるそうです。
yuta S
恐らくベストモーターリングではその様なあからさまな事はやって無いですよ。
実際R33GT-Rで広報車両のあからさまなチューニングが判明して以降、余程の事が無い限りは広報車両を使わず、市販された個人所有の車両でバトルしてますから。
Hydo y S zeroはこの鈴鹿バトルで35秒代ですが後期型のRは30秒切りますよ
Zajebisty przejazd, nice ride guys. Greetings from Poland
NSX-Sいいねぇ~
I hope Mitsubishi will one day bring back the Lancer Evolution.
That Evo is amazing, 4 door family car hanging with and beating full on sports cars.
Well its a rally car
@@Espxce No it's not
@@oliviersavard8676technically yes it is. Thats the rs version in the video.
if it has four doors it dosent mean its a family car its ride is harsh as fuck and the rear seat is for midgets try putting a toodlers car seat and having front passenger at the same time, passenger knees will be grinding on the dash its a car that should of came with 2 doors and better styling like a coupe otherwise its a useless 4 door car with its styling sacrficed for little space in the back.
evo is awesome.
NSX, the JDM Beauty!
NSXのイモラオレンジパール(みたいな名前だった気がする)キレイだよな〜
イモラオレンジパールであってる気がする
3:30 ここすき
Could anyone tell me what they were saying about the Impreza? I know it's probably the lowest powered car on the field but I figured it's lightness would have at least kept it out of first. I guess it was completing against some pretty tough competition though.
The sound of that 355 might be the most wonderful thing in the world
インプレッサ走ってたのか(笑)
中谷さんのアクセル踏みっぱシフトアップがカッコいい
車がかわいそうな気もするんだけどね
君の音はあんまり好きじゃない草
@@user-wl4ef7iq2k V4?四輪VTECは基本直列でV型VTECは6気筒よ。
バイクもスーフォア等はVTECだけど直列だしRVFはV4だけどVTECじゃなかったはず。
そりゃぁ、フェラーリV12と音を比べられたら、ロータリーの音は京商ですw
ロータリーの音が好きなのは、申し訳無いがロータリーマニアだけです。
@@user-tb1hb6io2s 4ローターでもそれ言える?
@@user-hm6tx2rr8v2個おにぎりと4個おにぎり別もんやろ
業務用おにぎりの話もってくんじゃねぇ
@@user-rf7jd4nr3lほんこれ
このビデオのは2ローターだし話が違う
Those annotations are hilarious! Couldn't make sense of any of it, except for "Music" - NSX engine noise in cab.... which is definitely correct! That car really does make music!
Ferrari sounds nice outside but not quite so good inside. Evo makes no sound, but goes fast.
at that time you could buy four sti;s or 4 lancers 3 rx7 2 gtrs even f355 was cheaper than NSX THE ONLYCAR WAS MORE EXPENSIVE WAS 550 MARANELLO
Wow good to know
Acura NSX is the only sports car here that can stay in front of a Ferrari.
I grew up watching these guys and I track myself now. My conclusion after watching many battles and having hours upon hours of my own track data... The foreign cars have OEM "stock" tires while the JDM cars have more track focused tires. You watch enough of these videos you catch them slipping and they mention it.
@@mmafan2223 ferrari have more hoursepower
F355 started out in 4th/5th place and pulled past the R34 and the RX-7, eventually overtook the Evo 6 and almost caught up to the NSX Type S which was much further in the lead. That's seriously impressive.
これが20年前ってほんとすごい
Bayside Blue 😍 4:59 5:38 7:04 12:17
Imola Orange 😎 2:19 7:43 7:58 10:01
f355めっちゃいい音!❣️
よしきまっくろくろすけ それな
よしきまっくろくろすけ 特に5:10とか
NSXのシフトダウンの音が気持ちいい❗
dori dori crazy driver
If only I can read Japanese comments
ISSA OOF so true 😂😂
@@samybreezy2768 same!!!!!!
You could just copy paste the kanji sentence and paste it on the left box of google translate, the right will pop up in English.
ND 1029 For example, said: "NSX S Zero, it ’s scary because there ’s still NSX-R on top."
please translate more videos
Clean win for the nsx
F355 sounds so exotic!
NSX is a beast!
The orange NSX reminds me of the demo of gran turismo 1
ランエボかっこよ過ぎ
English translation please!!!
Damn some driver mods are needed.
さすが唯一のスーパーカー!
English Sub titles!?
このバトルにポルシェも持ってきたら更に面白かっただろうな。
NSXはHONDA勢の誇りですわ
And the award for Most Overrated Car of all time goes to: Nissan Skyline GT-R
Not the R-32, it was a killed on the tracks, but R33 and R34...
You must be a Civic boy.
Or the supra.
@@eduardoescobar566 its true tho, the GTR is good but its overrated as fuck, just like the supra
i have no idea what anyone was saying but it looked cool
NSXの完成度の高さすごいなぁ
ランエボ好きだからランエボが頭取ってると応援したくなる
Gear change on Evo was in milli seconds
Evo dream!!!
ランエボは上位2車種との価格差の割には結果の差がそれほどじゃないデスよね。さらにチューニングしたら追いつけるかもデスよね。
Much respekt for the F355
Best era of high performance cars
No entiendo un carajo pero el mejor canal de autos. Chupenla el resto.