At the end, Carrie's world is literally collapsing around her after the prom and mother's death. The house represents that. Carrie died and the girl at the end is wracked with guilt: nightmare. Sissy should've got an Oscar for this. She nailed it.
I wonder who got it. That's what I've always found funny about the Oscars: whenever we look back, the "winners" are usually for forgotten performances in forgettable movies while the "losers" go on to become legends and classics! Sometimes The Academy gets it "right" but too often, otherwise, at least in my opinion!
Yes Proms are like this. You think all prom dances in movies where all done to not look like it was? And Tommy didnt leave when the teacher came to the table, he stood up when a lady was speaking to them. A gentleman stands when spoken to by a lady or person of importance like a teacher. It's a sign of respect.
Lots of people mention that the opening with the shower seems 'excessive' they assign the wrong motive to the film maker. He was not being salacious, he was showing Carrie luxuriating in the shower because at home she only gets baths.
Also, it’s a momentary idyll. It’s Carrie’s last moment of innocence before everything changes when the period starts. That’s also why the soundtrack and photography change at that exact moment as well.
First off RIP to Piper Laurie who played Carrie's deranged fanatical mother who died on October 14th, 2023 - only 7 days ago. I think THIS will be the performance she is best remembered for. I saw "Carrie" at a special preview about 2 weeks before it's actual release in 1976. To let you know how big the jolt was at the end of the film, I don't even recall hearing any screaming. What I DO know is that I lifted about 2 feet out of my chair, and when its revealed that it's a dream, the reverberation from the audience lasted like FIFTEEN minutes after the movie ended. Not only were our nerves rattled, but boy, you should have seen how many cigarettes got lit up in the lobby. I never saw a reaction like that before or since. I truly unforgettable experience. And oh, one other thing - at the time of the movie's release, Stephen King had yet to become STEPHEN KING, so at this time, he was gaining a following of readers and it started with his first book in which this movie is based on.
That’s incredible! I love when people have stories like this. It reminds me of when I have heard people talk about seeing the Thriller video for the first time. Not in an it’s scary way, just how big of a deal it was.
Piper died 😢didn’t realized she was still alive at this point, I remember her from Twin Peaks (my fav tv series) with Jack Nance who died not to long after TP was canceled
Fun fact: Piper Laurie stated several times that, at the time of filming, she thought the film was a comedy, and played the character as such. I can only imagine Brian DePalma screaming, "Bigger! More! I need more! Not you, Piper. You're cool. Everyone be more like Piper!"
The ending in the film is a bit different from the book. In the novel, Carrie goes through town and lays waste to everything in her path, but the film didn't have the budget for that. Although, the idea behind Carrie's end was the same, her abilities were fully unleashed beyond her own (conscious) control, so the house coming down around her was her doing, but not her intent. And yes, I knew people as cruel in my high school (well, more so in my middle school). King himself, says he based Carrie on two girls he remembered from high school, one who had a crazy religious mother and one who was constantly picked on for, basically, being very poor and awkward. Also, in the 70's it was not unheard of for a teacher to strike a student. As long as no actual damage was done, nothing much would come from it. They were still allowed to spank children as late as the 1980's. I was born in 1971, so I got to experience all this lunacy first hand.
Tommy is a good guy, yes he was with sue but he started to have feelings for carrie, because he saw how smart and beautiful she is and how kind. i have seen many reactors distrust tommy when i saw he was trying to be a good guy, and yes he went into it by his g/f saying it but
10:34 Sue was being honest! As you noticed, she showed remorse about Carrie’s torment! 15:39 Our prom was at an aquarium/ it was a very BIG DEAL, no pig’s blood tho 😂🚫
@1:39 Yes, many others including IT, Pet Sematary, Christine, Misery, The Running Man, The Shawshank Redemption, The Mist, Stand by Me, The Green Mile, Children of the Corn, Cujo...just to name a few. He sometimes wrote under the pen name Richard Bachman.
In the field of parapsychology, it's been suggested that some persons - usually a teen - can be the cause of uncontrolled telekinetic occurrences in the vicinity of that person. The person is often someone undergoing a lot of stress, so according to this line of thought Carrie's traumatising experience in the locker room could very well be a trigger. All the pent-up emotions from an entire life with an abusive mother probably contributed too. Sissy Spacek and Piper Laurie were phenomenal in this film, where the true horror lies in how Carrie is treated. Thanks for the reaction!
I still didn't read the novel but I see all the movies, and I also got a small idea of the book due some things I read in the wiki of the characters. Carrie got bullied too hard but in the original history there are so much information about her and entire background - with obviously a lot of sickness and cruelty by their peers. She was pushed too hard, even more than how the movies portrait it.
No, not that Carrie was still haunting her at the end. But the doctor had said that she is still young and should forget about it all. But her dream was a clear indication that she was not okay yet.
Stephen King initially threw the manuscript in the trash. His wife got it out and it got published. The movie is true to the novel and it had no major jump scares until the very end! Carrie's arm coming out of the ground was terrifying! This movie was top notch. It is well worth your time.
This may be one of school bullying horror films . In the book : Carrie destroys the town - lights everything on fire in town - neighbors are electrocuted- knocks out all the fire hydrants so the fire dept can't put out the fires - kills her mother by slowing down her heart - blows up the school with gas - and finally goes back to the house where she was conceived. Confronted by Susan. And she tells Susan: Why didn't you just leave me alone ? And Carrie's heart gives out and dies.
5:45 Speaking as someone who grew up with violent parents, Carrie thanked her mom because that's what her mom needed to hear. You learn VERY fast to say and do what they expect and want you to do. Doesn't mean you mean it, but it's purely survival instinct at that point. My father liked little girls who smiled. A little girl who doesn't smile isn't a good little girl. I learned very fast to put on that mask when he was in the room. I had to be "daddy's happy girl" when he was nearby. Didn't matter how I actually felt, it's what I had to be. I can imagine the culture shock of seeing teachers and students from back then compared to how they are now. When I was a student, a teacher slapping a student for misbehaving, using rulers on hands or bums was very common place. Bullies often got VERY physical and yes very spiteful in their bullying and they were almost never punished for it, even if bones or teeth were broken. Hell, some of the teachers WERE the bullies. At least two in the schools I went to as a child. I was a favorite target for bullies. But I've found a lot of kids who were abused at home were targets for bullies in school too. it's like they can smell the timidity in the whipped kids.
Classic horror, one of my faves! Anyhoo, I understood Tommy perfectly. Carrie liked his poem and writing poetry is obviously something he never shared with his own girlfriend. Also, Carrie put a lot of work into getting ready for the prom, the result? Carrie looked HOT and Tommy couldn't resist! ("What girlfriend?")
I agree with you. I see Tommy as somewhat of a pure soul. Yes, he is a High School "boy" and an athlete, with all the attended hormonal/heterosexual (in his case) cravings, but he's also a genuinely decent guy. So, when Carrie did her "makeover" and he saw how vulnerable and self-doubting - and yes, pretty - she was, it really touched his heart. Also, he did notice how people were mean to her (like the English teacher) and he got in touch with his inner-protector, if you will. He was caught up in the moment, having no idea that there were dark, twisted plans afoot, waiting to be sprung. That said, yes, he was going beyond his brief, it appears, in the way he was "romancing" Carrie, generally. I wonder, had things not gone to Hell that night, if he would have needed to confront his feelings for her, to Sue, to come clean about the kiss and the tenderness between them. It breaks your heart, really, that the horror of cruelty and chaos won out in the end.
@@michaelbriefs9764 I've yet to see a Stephen King movie adaptation with a sadder climax! Probably because it was one of the more faithful adaptations to his books!
In my hometown something happened that was pretty much the opposite of what happens to Carrie at the beginning of the movie. In other words: a mother decided to explain about mensturation (and PMS) to her child, who, (most people would agree), was far too young to be learning about such things.
I hope most people wouldn't agree. Menstruation is a natural bodily function. There's nothing sinful or sexual about it, and nothing wrong with telling a child about it. And it's been shown that the earlier girls know about it, and the more normalized it is for them, the less "traumatic" actually getting their period is. The fact that so many people treat menstruation like something shameful or embarrassing doesn't mean it actually is. It just means that, no matter how much more open society gets about certain topics, some puritanical ideas are still hanging on for all their worth. Which is exactly why so many girls actually had experiences like Carrie's, where they thought they were dying because they didn't know what was happening to them.
Yes it was. Which is also why the story isn't as polished as what we would usually expect from Steven King. Incidentally he ended up throwing away the first couple of pages. His wife found in the trash and told him to finish it after she read it.
Yes corporal punishment was allowed by teachers in the 70's. I got it multiple times by my middle school principal in the mid 80's. You only had to hit a few. Everyone else falls in line because the fear of getting hit was always there.
@@cinemawithsteph I don't think it was that crazy since it kept things in order and the (naughty) students stayed students. Teachers never beat you for no good reason, there was always a warning, and when they did you didn't need a hospital. No one that I know of has gotten "psychological problems" or anything like that from it (this is a new age trend). On the contrary, we were joking with each other afterwards. It never stopped us from doing the mischief we wanted (eg playing football [soccer] in places where it was forbidden), but we avoided doing the ones that weren't worth the price.
@@cinemawithsteph corporal punishment is still allowed in some Texas school districts -- with the parent's permission. back in the 80s, kids were taken out into the hall and got swatted with a large paddle by one of the coaches. but not me. i was a perfect child...
@@cinemawithsteph Some students actually made "Spatz" boards for the PE teachers. In middle school, we had wood shop classes. They were usually oak, or some hardwood about 1 inch thick. (Also heavy...) They were about 30 inches in length, with a 12 inch handle (so you could get both hands on) From the handle it "fanned-out" about 12 inches, and tapered down to about 6 inches at the end. They also had widely spaced 1 inch holes drilled in them for aerodynamics, and they left nice little red circles on the skin... When you got caught doing something really bad, it was your turn. - Like using the fire extinguishers & soaking people just walking to class... Getting a "Spatz" hurt, but the majority of teachers performed this with another observing, and I feel did really change behaviors for the better.
i have watched this movie so many times. i never realized that her mom saw her pink dress as red which of course was a premonition when the blood fell on her.
CARRIE came out when I was in high school and I took my girlfriend and three of her friends to go see it. They left pissed off because they would have been thought of as the villains in the movie because they all thought Carrie was weird and would have teased her the same way. And thought her response was way out of line for what her class mates had done.
She wasn't I mentioned it because all of them so no problem with tormenting Carrie and they were just typical average girls not thought of as bad.@@cinemawithsteph
That was very close to my experience in High School in the 70s (minus the blood and murder). Several people chose to leave life because of bullying. There was always someone who was picked on. If you read Stephen King's intro to the book, he based Carrie on two or three girls he knew in High School.
well its kind of complicated, because dates and proms were different in the past, mostly before the 70s, but still carried over a bit.. teens and adults alike would go on a lot of dates with various people, but it wasnt the usual to be having sex, or making out unless you were veering over into more serious relationships (usually).. kisses were a bit more innocent, and more respect was given in all these little kisses and dates, various gestures, and dancing.. but on the other hand, these things didnt mean the relationship was serious.. it was just a date, and girlfriends didnt mean it was going steady.. but while on a date, it wasnt polite to not treat your date like your date, you know.. well anyway, tommy giving her a kiss or taking her to prom, or on a date, in this kind of world, wouldnt be that strange.. and its not too clear if tommy and sue are even going steady or not, they may just be one of those old school boyfriend girlfriends that do things with each other, like i was describing.. but heres the thing, what i think the deal is is that tommy is supposed to be doing one of these old school innocent prom dates.. plus, hes kind of liking carrie more for various reasons.. but most importantly, for the sake of the plot, they want to have the teacher look over and think sue is getting jealous by seeing them kissing.. so all that combined equates to tommy planting some pretty serious kisses on carrie at the prom.. problem is.. it seems a little odd unless you put it all into that kind of old school context, as to why tommys doing all the kissing, and why sue isnt getting mad about it.. not that girlfriends didnt get jealous in the 50s, but i need to shut up and subscribe now.. thank you.. sits down.. one of my favorite movies, i have to go with the flow
"They're all gonna laugh at you!" Fun Fact: Theatrical movie debut of Betty Buckley, Amy Irving, and Edie McClurg Hot Take Fact: The prom scene took over two weeks to shoot and required a total of 35 takes. Christian Iconography Fact: In Carrie's (Sissy Spacek) house, the statue of a religious figure shot with arrows represents St. Sebastian. It is not a crucifix and does not represent Jesus Christ. Buried Alive Fact: Ever the stickler for authenticity, Sissy Spacek insisted that she (not a double) be the one whose hand shoots up out of Carrie's grave during Sue Snell's nightmare sequence, so she was positioned under the rocks and gravel. Director De Palma had her husband bury her, because he didn't want anyone else to do it. Sissy Spacek would randomly ask "Are We Ready Yet?" while waiting for them to set up the shot between takes. Black Comedy Fact: Nancy Allen claims she never realized her character was going to be so evil until she saw the finished film. She thought she and John Travolta were playing such self-centered, bickering morons that they were there for comic relief. According to Piper Laurie, she honestly thought her character was too over the top fanatical to be taken seriously. Brian De Palma had to take her to the side and personally tell her it was a horror film and not a "black comedy" as she thought it was. Even so, she would constantly burst out into laughter between takes because not only was her characterization and wardrobe laughable in her eyes, but the dialogue itself was humorous for her. To this day, she still refers to and maintains the movie as a black comedy.
To me, the house collapsed because she was unable to control her powers as she had only just discovered them. Plus the trauma she's just experienced and the fact that she'd just killed her mother - the energy was just too overwhelming. I loved this movie because of the combination of the great actors (Spacek and Piper were both nominated for Oscar awards), the story, de Palma's skills, and the actual music which was sometimes soothing, sometimes jazzy, sometimes Psycho and scary, changing abruptly all the time to throw the audience off.
5:35 as long as needed... according to the book, mother found her next morning because she fell asleep in there... 6:26 that was common those days, teachers also taking part in the humiliation, I had a share of them myself as well... 7:29 Amy Irving plays Sue. She appeared in dozens of movies and TV productions. She even reprised her role as Sue Snell in a sequel to this movie (as a school counselor). 7:58 not today, but back in the 1970s for sure, I underwent several slaps as well back in the days when I was young. 10:34 teachers and students have different ideas about the same subject... 12:25 mother had only one "boy" and together, they conceived Carrie in an act of marital rape. 13:51 I was bullied at school a lot. I even underwent sexual abuse at age 6-7 and kept it secret for 20 years. I recall my school years as very stressful. Between school and college, my parents and I went for Summer holiday, just to forget everything, until that holiday suddenly ended with a car crash. I'm writing a novel about it right now. 19:35 in the 2002 version, Norma (who survived the prom) is questioned about the election. The detective found one of those ballots and thought they were forged. 26:13 in the book, there is an incident called "Rain of Stones" and she threatens her mom with it.
Proms have Prom Committees that are run by selected students and managed by a teacher or two. They decide the theme and get a budget for decorations and set up the decorations.
Fantastic reaction. I had a million things I wanted to say but I fell asleep right near the end (only because I'm on a weird sleep schedule, not because of the reaction!). The acting in this movie is so great. Sissy Spacek, whew! In the 70s, she was in "Badlands" (great), "Carrie" (great) and then "3 Women" (great). "3 Women" is her and Shelley Duvall from The Shining (right before she made The Shining).....Shelley Duvall's best performance, she won Best Actress at Cannes for it. Weird movie, maybe for the channel, maybe off it, but worth seeing most definitely. "3 Women"! As far as horror, after "Carrie", I'm dying to see your reaction to "Rosemary's Baby"! You will have much to say about it! Also, next time you're feeling vintage.....hit "Gaslight" (1944). Another movie you will have much to say about!
@@cinemawithstephBoth Blow Out and Carrie were directed by Brian De Palma. De Palma was also married to the actress playing Kris (Nancy Allan). Nancy and John both star in Blow Out
No Sue was not being tortured by Carrie at the end, it was Sue's mental state basically being messed up from the whole incident. Remember, Sue was never mean to her.
I was always the new kid growing up and so I was bullied a lot. But it was mostly verbal humiliation. A couple times I was hurt but then when I moved my last time to the US and went to high school then it stopped.
Yes, the 70s proms were a big deal. My sister went to one in NYC in the mid 1970s and the school rented a huge hall complete with orchestra. Every guy dressed in a tuxedo. My sister could not dance because her partner wore a maroon tuxedo, and only guys with black tuxedo were allowed on the dance floor. She was crying all night. It was a huge deal.
Ya we had "social clique" in High School - I was outside of all of them and a loner (loners like me and the other loners were picked on, but also kind of protected because we had no social value in cutting down). There were a couple of students in my HS that were targeted by nearly all social cliques (Druggies, Jocks, Soshes - those were the big three clicks, then the "outsiders/loners" (we were from all economic/racial classes, just socially introverted/aukward, like me (we where not a clique, just the left overs (its kinda like being a Repulican/Democrat (clique), and an Independent (the outsiders politically that can't fit in the current structure). Anyway I remember this kid - he was flambointly gay (this was in the early 80's) and around 20 kids one afternoon chanted to him to "jump" from the stairs he was threatening to self-delete using. He was picked on for all 4 yrs, I was not there when this even happened (I was in a class on the other side of the building) - just heard the rumours that the kids chanted to him to jump. I don't rem if he jumped or not. I think he managed to graduate but not sure - we had 1000 students in 4 yr grade span at our HS so it was mid-sized. There was another event - a teacher (and ya they can be dicks too) - when a girl started crying, he told the rest of the class not to fixate on her crying, "she just hit and killed another student on his motorcycle out in the parking lot yesterday".
This film was directed by Brian De Palma and the actress that played Kris is his wife. Brian directed another Thriller staring his wife and John Travolta. It’s called Blow Out. It’s a highly rated Thriller
Norma the one with the red hat she played on Halloween Carrie is the Best and original all the remakes are just that they are and will never be as good as the original so many great actors this movie was so well directed and put together. R.I.P Piper Laurie she passed away this month.
Totally fair! It’s nothing my parents would’ve watched and I’m not typically someone who watches these types of movies. I’m glad I’ve been checking them out though. With them being classics like you said, it’s nice to finally know what people are talking about/referencing
as far as the blood goes, i think the main choice was to suggest that carrie was snapped back into a mode of trauma by the pigs blood, even more than wouldv been, because of the shower period scene.. all the hipsters will say its symbollic of holding a woman back and such, but i think its mostly just for more simple reasons.. of course the period scene also has other plot reasons such as showing carrie is naive, bullied, abused at home.. and the pig blood shows the bullies are horrible, and that they were mostly choosing to dump the blood on her directly because of the shower incident.. and of course it makes for one of the greatest images of carrie covered in blood at the end
I think the movie is more broadly about female power dynamics than bullying specifically. Tommy and Billy both kind of “go along” with their girlfriends’ requests without any particular stakes in it. Billy is baseline a jerk and Tommy is baseline well-mannered. In the book, Sue does get a little worried something might come of Tommy and Carrie together. Tommy has fairly simple motivation: “hey, this girl from my English class is pretty!” Billy doesn’t even remember who she is. The men/boys in the story are largely oblivious to what is going on between the girls/women. The principal doesn’t even know her name and he is deeply embarrassed by the blood on Miss Collins’ shorts. It’s like they are in a different movie. A romantic comedy, perhaps. Side note: I was bullied in 7th grade (but not high school) and that is when this movie came out. It does capture a particular rough energy of the time. I don’t know.
Had things gone well at the prom, Sue was probably going to lose her boyfriend to Carrie! I never felt that Sue's or Tommy's intentions were anything less than sincere. Then it becomes clear that he's attracted to Carrie at the prom, which of course wasn't planned. It just happened. Good reaction, thanks!
In the novel Sue tells Tommy to make sure that Carries night is magical and to do whatever he needs to do to make it so. I think the movie leaned in a little too far because in the book Carrie knows why Tommy is taking her to the dance and just goes along with it.
Movies are made more today for 5th graders, with everything explained. That's the marketing executives being shrewd, looking to appeal to a larger audience. In the 70s and earlier, there was often more ambiguity in stories, probably because at least some movies were being made as "art" and as "puzzles" to figure out, and not so much by accountants and lawyers aiming for the lowest common denominator. You'll see it in "The Shining," "The Exorcist," and in "2001: A Space Odyssey" and other films of the period. Ironically, this pattern probably begins to change with "Jaws" and the concept of the summer blockbuster. So the very success of cinema kind of did it in, in that sense. I'd say being very explicit and less mysterious became more normal in the 80s, and is fairly firmly in place as "proper form" in the 90s.
"Why wouldn't her mom tell her about this?" The real horror of Carrie is the lack of sex ed in schools. Carrie's mom abusing her with religion also needed a CPS intervention.
@@harley2704 What do you mean? Kids were disciplined like that for thousands of years and they turned out fine. Today, we see the results of not disciplining kids. They are a mess. We all see the evidence.
This was an exaggerated, but not inaccurate look at a public high school in the 1970s. Based on the way the guys behaved in the boys’ locker room when I was in high school, the girls’ behavior rang true to me (again, somewhat exaggerated for dramatic effect). I was a bullied teen at the time the movie came out (nowhere near to the extent that Carrie was - it also helped that my family, though dysfunctional, fell within the norms of the day). The movie was very cathartic for me and I saw it multiple times in its original release (when I was 15 and 16). Other things: corporal punishment was allowed, but in my school it was regulated. Miss Collins would probably have been reprimanded for slapping Chris (I think there may have been a scene shot and not used showing Chris’s father raising a stink with the principal-and there is a scene like that in the novel). The ending: while I know now that De Palma intended to show a shower of rocks destroy the house (which would have “rhymed” with a similar scene - either not shot or unused - that would have been a kind of prologue which occurred when Carrie was a young child), budget constraints made it impossible to complete the sequence. When I first saw the movie my interpretation was that Carrie’s telekinetic powers simply went berserk and not being able to process all that happened to her she unwittingly made the house implode. Great catch on noting the connection between Carrie’s first period and the emergence of her telekinesis. I believe that’s what both the author and the director had in mind. And finally RIP to the wonderful Piper Laurie. Thank you for such an enjoyable reaction! And apologies for my long and rambling comment!
Most of the bullying I got was in grade school. By high school everyone had pretty much chilled out. Despite being a choir nerd and having a few select friends I preferred to spend most of my time alone in the library so I wasn't in any of the cliques. Swats were allowed at school in the 60's and 70's but no school I went to allowed physical abuse like a teacher slapping a student back then. In fact my mom had 3 teachers fired over our school years for a lot less. One over me and 2 because of my younger sister.
Late 70’s I was about 10, I witnessed a teacher slap a girl, then spank her ass as she dragged her into a classroom, told my European parents about this and my dad nearly beat me for even bringing it up. Adults knew how to quickly eliminate any revolutionary decent in children😂 We didn’t act out of line.. I turned out ok though 🙄
👋Good Afternoon Steph, and Thank You for today's Reaction!💝 I thought that My High School was Hell, but that girl had it far-worse than anybody else. I Recognized "Chris," She was played by Nancy Allen, and I know Her-Best from "RoboCop" (that was on one of Your recent Polls). My All-Time Favorite Stephen King adaptation is "Christine," and that one has been Recommended to You a Lot lately...🤞
Hey Tom! Thanks for checking it out :) I do intend to check out RoboCop in the future as per my brothers request lol and I’ve definitely noticed the Christine suggestions! It’s on the list :)
@@cinemawithsteph (LOL) Sorry...take Your time, My Friend, there are So Many Good Movies still to come! Oh and "Thank" Your Brothers for Me: "RoboCop" ('87) is My All-Time Favorite! 😉👌
My dear, you certainly must not have ever been introduced to a religious fanatic! That's what Margaret White was. She thought Carrie had sinned when the school called to tell her about what happened in gym class. It is explained a little better in the film. As a side note, both Sissy and Piper Laurie were nominated for Best Supporting Actress (Piper Laurie) and Best Actress (Sissy Spacek). I thought both should have won; however, they both lost. Brian DePalma, the director, originally wanted to cast Amy Irving (who played Sue) in the role of Carrie. Glad he changed his mind! Hope you enjoyed the film. It's in my personal favorites list. The prom scene (before the prank) was so touching: Carrie's first dance, her first kiss, the first time she had actually been treated decent. And, Carrie didn't (lose it) until she realized that Tommy was dead.
1. Stephen King threw this book away, but his wife took it out and told him to send it in. It's the first one that sold to a legitimate publisher that wasn't adult pulp and the first to be adapted into a movie. 2. Back then teachers were allowed to strike a student if warranted. (Class of 1979) 3. Another religious nut bag can be found in King's "The Mist". 4. Norma/PJ Soles 😍 Al long as I have a face....😋 (she has to ace that ballcap) 5. Sue, Tommy and Miss Collins really were trying to help Carrie. I read the book. 6. If Billy's a high school student, so am I. 7. Margaret's crucifixion pose is the same as the St. Sabastian. 8. Both Sissie and Piper Lauri were nominated for Acadamy Awards, but horror didn't get the love back then. 9. The only thing good in the second LOSER remake is Carrie/Chloe Grace Moretz could get it. (King remakes are 0/10) Including "IT" and "The Stand".
I think Tommy "caught feelings for Carrie" from the time he talked to her at her house and the dance. So i think it was genuine, he did not want to go initially, and only when along with it because Sue wanted him to. As for Carrie, the scene where all the audience we laughing at her - including the nice teacher - was delusion on Carrie's part, she just "snapped" and imagined them laughing, so then shortly afterwards we see Carrie killing the nice teacher out of her delusional conviction that the teacher was in on it (humiliating Carrie) all along. Carrie just when temporarily insane - i.e. a "crime of passion" (I went crazy once - due to bulling when i was 17 - and would have shot the bully had i had a gun at the time - it would have been no problem (you just go on autopilot and another "thing"/"force"/"compulsion" drives to forward in your mentality and action. Thankfully i did not have a gun (my parents were smart enough not to have them in my house - had they I would have grabbed it and killed the bully SOB that nigh - i know it without a doubt). the next day I calmed down and reason and my mind took back over again, and I got to live "happily ever after" - that same bully got involved in the accedental death of one of his friends (another bully i knew in High School) about 6 years later, they got in a fight and he pushed the other guy who fell and hit his dead on the sidewalk and died a few days later in the hospital. I think its clear Carrie offed herself at the end. IMO.
Thank you for pointing out the laughter was delusional! I meant to post that question and pin it to the video because I forgot to ask it while recording. I thought it might’ve been because right after the blood has been dropped, the classmates are serious and only the one girl laughs but then suddenly everyone is. Especially, like you pointed out, the teacher. I’m so sorry you had such a terrible experience :( The psychology behind why all of this happens would be interesting to read/understand how people get to that place.
I never read the book, but as for the correlation between the blood in the beginning of the movie and at the end, I think Carrie getting her first period establishes who the characters are; Carrie's crazy and abusive religious mother who never even told her explains why Carrie is so shy and awkward. Plus it gives the filmmakers an opportunity for gratuitous nudity with a teenage girls' locker room scene.
For myself Middle School was the hellscape and people were more chill in High School. I hated school regardless and was happy when it was over. There were some psychopaths and narcissists in my graduating class as with all thing, they are everywhere. When they realized I wasn't gonna take their shite lying down they gave up and moved on to others. In my experience sadly violence and the threat of violence was the only thing that worked to get them to piss off. I never watched this one until a few years ago because I had no interest in watching someone be tormented at school but it was on one night and I figured what the hell and it was alright, DePalma is better at thrillers and suspense than outright horror. But it is the best out of the 4 movies made from the Novel. The half hearted late 90's teen horror sequel was terrible the made for TV Movie from the early 00's was lame and the 2013 theatre movie remake was a half hearted waste of time that was from an era of many pointless horror remakes of originals that did the source material better even with lower budgets. Most horror remakes from 2005-13 were cheap money grabs with terrible CGI effects and luckily most are long forgotten now.
Great reaction one of my favourite films. If you like Stephen King stories I would highly recommend "Christine" . Also a great movie adaptation for Halloween.👍
off topic - but started hearing music, there is a guy in the alley behind my backyard singing and playing guitar (I went out thinking i was hearing things - he looks like a homeless guy (I have many here where i live) - he asked if he was bothering me, i said hell no, he plays a good guitar, so now I have authentic music while posting here - lol. We do have too many homeless and they started showing up about 5 years ago - not right for a supposed "1st world nation" - America has to be broken to have this many homeless. America - fix yourself! how? no clue, but please figure something out. we cant continue on this way.
168th I saw this when it came out I was 16 , Class of 79 ...I never saw a teacher hit a kid - but I did see a few shaken once or twice....... LOL Loved your reaction ...64 this yr - dammm you TIME!!!!
You’re from another generation. When I watched this in a theatre when it first came out (when I was in 8th grade) this is just how high school was. I’m 60 now and see how your generation just isnt familiar with this time period. Understandable .
@@Socrates... That's Fair...plus I do Agree, and Hope that We can Recommend some other / lesser-known Movies for Steph to Enjoy. I've certainly got My List ready...
The list of Stephen King books made into movies is much too long to post here. I will call out stand by me, Shashank redemption and the green mile. The movies are almost unlimited.
Haven't read the book, but am I seriously the only person who ever got a very strong sense that Mrs. White is a Psychic? She knows exactly what is going to happen to Carrie. "They're all gonna laugh at you!". Ultimately given the same wounds as her St. Sébastien effigy she forced her daughter to repent to all her life, she's always known about what Carrie will become, hence her overly religious immersion. Carrie's powers run in the family!
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At the end, Carrie's world is literally collapsing around her after the prom and mother's death. The house represents that. Carrie died and the girl at the end is wracked with guilt: nightmare.
Sissy should've got an Oscar for this. She nailed it.
I wonder who got it. That's what I've always found funny about the Oscars: whenever we look back, the "winners" are usually for forgotten performances in forgettable movies while the "losers" go on to become legends and classics! Sometimes The Academy gets it "right" but too often, otherwise, at least in my opinion!
Yes Proms are like this. You think all prom dances in movies where all done to not look like it was? And Tommy didnt leave when the teacher came to the table, he stood up when a lady was speaking to them. A gentleman stands when spoken to by a lady or person of importance like a teacher. It's a sign of respect.
Lots of people mention that the opening with the shower seems 'excessive' they assign the wrong motive to the film maker. He was not being salacious, he was showing Carrie luxuriating in the shower because at home she only gets baths.
Very good point.
Also, it’s a momentary idyll. It’s Carrie’s last moment of innocence before everything changes when the period starts. That’s also why the soundtrack and photography change at that exact moment as well.
@@johnmoreland6089𝗦𝘁𝗲𝗹𝗹𝗮𝗿 observation! Never even considered that, before. ♡
First off RIP to Piper Laurie who played Carrie's deranged fanatical mother who died on October 14th, 2023 - only 7 days ago. I think THIS will be the performance she is best remembered for. I saw "Carrie" at a special preview about 2 weeks before it's actual release in 1976. To let you know how big the jolt was at the end of the film, I don't even recall hearing any screaming. What I DO know is that I lifted about 2 feet out of my chair, and when its revealed that it's a dream, the reverberation from the audience lasted like FIFTEEN minutes after the movie ended. Not only were our nerves rattled, but boy, you should have seen how many cigarettes got lit up in the lobby. I never saw a reaction like that before or since. I truly unforgettable experience. And oh, one other thing - at the time of the movie's release, Stephen King had yet to become STEPHEN KING, so at this time, he was gaining a following of readers and it started with his first book in which this movie is based on.
That’s incredible! I love when people have stories like this. It reminds me of when I have heard people talk about seeing the Thriller video for the first time. Not in an it’s scary way, just how big of a deal it was.
Twin Peaks as well.
Piper died 😢didn’t realized she was still alive at this point, I remember her from Twin Peaks (my fav tv series) with Jack Nance who died not to long after TP was canceled
Stephen King benefited hugely from the films made of his novels.
Fun fact: Piper Laurie stated several times that, at the time of filming, she thought the film was a comedy, and played the character as such. I can only imagine Brian DePalma screaming, "Bigger! More! I need more! Not you, Piper. You're cool. Everyone be more like Piper!"
In the novel it's explained that Margaret White believes that showers were "sinful" and they only took bathes.
The ending in the film is a bit different from the book. In the novel, Carrie goes through town and lays waste to everything in her path, but the film didn't have the budget for that. Although, the idea behind Carrie's end was the same, her abilities were fully unleashed beyond her own (conscious) control, so the house coming down around her was her doing, but not her intent. And yes, I knew people as cruel in my high school (well, more so in my middle school). King himself, says he based Carrie on two girls he remembered from high school, one who had a crazy religious mother and one who was constantly picked on for, basically, being very poor and awkward. Also, in the 70's it was not unheard of for a teacher to strike a student. As long as no actual damage was done, nothing much would come from it. They were still allowed to spank children as late as the 1980's. I was born in 1971, so I got to experience all this lunacy first hand.
The fact that Tommy and Sue were actually trying to help Carrie makes it even more tragic.
It was a little pathetic the way the plot got rid of Tommy. Seriously, just one bucket was enough to kill him?
@@Threeleebird i dont think he died from the bucket. He probably got knocked out but he would've died from the fire though
@@Threeleebirdit’s a bucket of frozen blood. The second bucket was supposed to drench blood on Tommy too.
Tommy is a good guy, yes he was with sue but he started to have feelings for carrie, because he saw how smart and beautiful she is and how kind. i have seen many reactors distrust tommy when i saw he was trying to be a good guy, and yes he went into it by his g/f saying it but
As a kid in the 70s I viewed Carrie as a Horror film- now as an adult I see it as a Tragedy.
Coincidentally, Piper Laurie, who plays Carrie's mother Margaret, just died this past weekend at age 91.
RIP Ms Piper. 😢
The thing about bullying is that you never know who you are dealing with.
10:34 Sue was being honest! As you noticed, she showed remorse about Carrie’s torment!
15:39 Our prom was at an aquarium/ it was a very BIG DEAL, no pig’s blood tho 😂🚫
Never understand why people think Tommy & Sue are trying to trick Carrie.
I don't, either. Apparently, that's a common belief. But I never saw any evidence of that.
Talking instead of watching maybe
because people these days have the attention span of a gnat.
@1:39 Yes, many others including IT, Pet Sematary, Christine, Misery, The Running Man, The Shawshank Redemption, The Mist, Stand by Me, The Green Mile, Children of the Corn, Cujo...just to name a few. He sometimes wrote under the pen name Richard Bachman.
In the field of parapsychology, it's been suggested that some persons - usually a teen - can be the cause of uncontrolled telekinetic occurrences in the vicinity of that person. The person is often someone undergoing a lot of stress, so according to this line of thought Carrie's traumatising experience in the locker room could very well be a trigger. All the pent-up emotions from an entire life with an abusive mother probably contributed too.
Sissy Spacek and Piper Laurie were phenomenal in this film, where the true horror lies in how Carrie is treated. Thanks for the reaction!
I still didn't read the novel but I see all the movies, and I also got a small idea of the book due some things I read in the wiki of the characters. Carrie got bullied too hard but in the original history there are so much information about her and entire background - with obviously a lot of sickness and cruelty by their peers. She was pushed too hard, even more than how the movies portrait it.
No, not that Carrie was still haunting her at the end. But the doctor had said that she is still young and should forget about it all. But her dream was a clear indication that she was not okay yet.
Understandably, she was in complete shock.
How cold but smooth she made that exit from prom. Looked like she was gliding through the carnage, Great movie.
Stephen King initially threw the manuscript in the trash. His wife got it out and it got published. The movie is true to the novel and it had no major jump scares until the very end! Carrie's arm coming out of the ground was terrifying! This movie was top notch. It is well worth your time.
This may be one of school bullying horror films . In the book : Carrie destroys the town - lights everything on fire in town - neighbors are electrocuted- knocks out all the fire hydrants so the fire dept can't put out the fires - kills her mother by slowing down her heart - blows up the school with gas - and finally goes back to the house where she was conceived. Confronted by Susan. And she tells Susan: Why didn't you just leave me alone ? And Carrie's heart gives out and dies.
To me the novel is King at his very best. Better than the film.
"They're all gonna laugh at you!!!!!"
- Margaret White
5:45 Speaking as someone who grew up with violent parents, Carrie thanked her mom because that's what her mom needed to hear. You learn VERY fast to say and do what they expect and want you to do. Doesn't mean you mean it, but it's purely survival instinct at that point. My father liked little girls who smiled. A little girl who doesn't smile isn't a good little girl. I learned very fast to put on that mask when he was in the room. I had to be "daddy's happy girl" when he was nearby. Didn't matter how I actually felt, it's what I had to be.
I can imagine the culture shock of seeing teachers and students from back then compared to how they are now. When I was a student, a teacher slapping a student for misbehaving, using rulers on hands or bums was very common place. Bullies often got VERY physical and yes very spiteful in their bullying and they were almost never punished for it, even if bones or teeth were broken. Hell, some of the teachers WERE the bullies. At least two in the schools I went to as a child. I was a favorite target for bullies. But I've found a lot of kids who were abused at home were targets for bullies in school too. it's like they can smell the timidity in the whipped kids.
Classic horror, one of my faves! Anyhoo, I understood Tommy perfectly. Carrie liked his poem and writing poetry is obviously something he never shared with his own girlfriend. Also, Carrie put a lot of work into getting ready for the prom, the result? Carrie looked HOT and Tommy couldn't resist!
("What girlfriend?")
I agree with you. I see Tommy as somewhat of a pure soul. Yes, he is a High School "boy" and an athlete, with all the attended hormonal/heterosexual (in his case) cravings, but he's also a genuinely decent guy. So, when Carrie did her "makeover" and he saw how vulnerable and self-doubting - and yes, pretty - she was, it really touched his heart. Also, he did notice how people were mean to her (like the English teacher) and he got in touch with his inner-protector, if you will. He was caught up in the moment, having no idea that there were dark, twisted plans afoot, waiting to be sprung. That said, yes, he was going beyond his brief, it appears, in the way he was "romancing" Carrie, generally. I wonder, had things not gone to Hell that night, if he would have needed to confront his feelings for her, to Sue, to come clean about the kiss and the tenderness between them. It breaks your heart, really, that the horror of cruelty and chaos won out in the end.
@@michaelbriefs9764 I've yet to see a Stephen King movie adaptation with a sadder climax! Probably because it was one of the more faithful adaptations to his books!
Except it wasn't Tommy's poem in the first place. He plagiarised it and admits it to Carrie when they are dancing...
Nancy Allen who played Chris was officer Lewis in Robocop.
In my hometown something happened that was pretty much the opposite of what happens to Carrie at the beginning of the movie. In other words: a mother decided to explain about mensturation (and PMS) to her child, who, (most people would agree), was far too young to be learning about such things.
I hope most people wouldn't agree. Menstruation is a natural bodily function. There's nothing sinful or sexual about it, and nothing wrong with telling a child about it. And it's been shown that the earlier girls know about it, and the more normalized it is for them, the less "traumatic" actually getting their period is.
The fact that so many people treat menstruation like something shameful or embarrassing doesn't mean it actually is. It just means that, no matter how much more open society gets about certain topics, some puritanical ideas are still hanging on for all their worth. Which is exactly why so many girls actually had experiences like Carrie's, where they thought they were dying because they didn't know what was happening to them.
CARRIE was actually his first novel
Yes it was. Which is also why the story isn't as polished as what we would usually expect from Steven King. Incidentally he ended up throwing away the first couple of pages. His wife found in the trash and told him to finish it after she read it.
But chronologically, I'll say read IT first, then 11/22/63 then Carrie
Yes corporal punishment was allowed by teachers in the 70's. I got it multiple times by my middle school principal in the mid 80's. You only had to hit a few. Everyone else falls in line because the fear of getting hit was always there.
That’s so crazy! I wonder when that officially stopped
@@cinemawithsteph I don't think it was that crazy since it kept things in order and the (naughty) students stayed students. Teachers never beat you for no good reason, there was always a warning, and when they did you didn't need a hospital. No one that I know of has gotten "psychological problems" or anything like that from it (this is a new age trend). On the contrary, we were joking with each other afterwards. It never stopped us from doing the mischief we wanted (eg playing football [soccer] in places where it was forbidden), but we avoided doing the ones that weren't worth the price.
@@cinemawithsteph corporal punishment is still allowed in some Texas school districts -- with the parent's permission.
back in the 80s, kids were taken out into the hall and got swatted with a large paddle by one of the coaches.
but not me. i was a perfect child...
@@cinemawithsteph
Some students actually made "Spatz" boards for the PE teachers. In middle school, we had wood shop classes. They were usually oak, or some hardwood about 1 inch thick. (Also heavy...) They were about 30 inches in length, with a 12 inch handle (so you could get both hands on) From the handle it "fanned-out" about 12 inches, and tapered down to about 6 inches at the end. They also had widely spaced 1 inch holes drilled in them for aerodynamics, and they left nice little red circles on the skin...
When you got caught doing something really bad, it was your turn. - Like using the fire extinguishers & soaking people just walking to class...
Getting a "Spatz" hurt, but the majority of teachers performed this with another observing, and I feel did really change behaviors for the better.
i have watched this movie so many times. i never realized that her mom saw her pink dress as red which of course was a premonition when the blood fell on her.
CARRIE came out when I was in high school and I took my girlfriend and three of her friends to go see it. They left pissed off because they would have been thought of as the villains in the movie because they all thought Carrie was weird and would have teased her the same way. And thought her response was way out of line for what her class mates had done.
They don’t sound like the nicest of people 😅
She wasn't I mentioned it because all of them so no problem with tormenting Carrie and they were just typical average girls not thought of as bad.@@cinemawithsteph
Also in the book , 2 buckets of blood were dropped.
Thank you so much for being you! You have inspired me to start a horror watching channel ❤❤
Yay that’s awesome! Best of luck! 👏🏻
It was Carrie’s despair that caused her telekinesis to destroy the house.
That was very close to my experience in High School in the 70s (minus the blood and murder). Several people chose to leave life because of bullying. There was always someone who was picked on. If you read Stephen King's intro to the book, he based Carrie on two or three girls he knew in High School.
Of course she could do that. Its back in 1976😊
well its kind of complicated, because dates and proms were different in the past, mostly before the 70s, but still carried over a bit.. teens and adults alike would go on a lot of dates with various people, but it wasnt the usual to be having sex, or making out unless you were veering over into more serious relationships (usually).. kisses were a bit more innocent, and more respect was given in all these little kisses and dates, various gestures, and dancing.. but on the other hand, these things didnt mean the relationship was serious.. it was just a date, and girlfriends didnt mean it was going steady.. but while on a date, it wasnt polite to not treat your date like your date, you know.. well anyway, tommy giving her a kiss or taking her to prom, or on a date, in this kind of world, wouldnt be that strange.. and its not too clear if tommy and sue are even going steady or not, they may just be one of those old school boyfriend girlfriends that do things with each other, like i was describing.. but heres the thing, what i think the deal is is that tommy is supposed to be doing one of these old school innocent prom dates.. plus, hes kind of liking carrie more for various reasons.. but most importantly, for the sake of the plot, they want to have the teacher look over and think sue is getting jealous by seeing them kissing.. so all that combined equates to tommy planting some pretty serious kisses on carrie at the prom.. problem is.. it seems a little odd unless you put it all into that kind of old school context, as to why tommys doing all the kissing, and why sue isnt getting mad about it.. not that girlfriends didnt get jealous in the 50s, but i need to shut up and subscribe now.. thank you.. sits down.. one of my favorite movies, i have to go with the flow
"They're all gonna laugh at you!"
Fun Fact: Theatrical movie debut of Betty Buckley, Amy Irving, and Edie McClurg
Hot Take Fact: The prom scene took over two weeks to shoot and required a total of 35 takes.
Christian Iconography Fact: In Carrie's (Sissy Spacek) house, the statue of a religious figure shot with arrows represents St. Sebastian. It is not a crucifix and does not represent Jesus Christ.
Buried Alive Fact: Ever the stickler for authenticity, Sissy Spacek insisted that she (not a double) be the one whose hand shoots up out of Carrie's grave during Sue Snell's nightmare sequence, so she was positioned under the rocks and gravel. Director De Palma had her husband bury her, because he didn't want anyone else to do it. Sissy Spacek would randomly ask "Are We Ready Yet?" while waiting for them to set up the shot between takes.
Black Comedy Fact: Nancy Allen claims she never realized her character was going to be so evil until she saw the finished film. She thought she and John Travolta were playing such self-centered, bickering morons that they were there for comic relief. According to Piper Laurie, she honestly thought her character was too over the top fanatical to be taken seriously. Brian De Palma had to take her to the side and personally tell her it was a horror film and not a "black comedy" as she thought it was. Even so, she would constantly burst out into laughter between takes because not only was her characterization and wardrobe laughable in her eyes, but the dialogue itself was humorous for her. To this day, she still refers to and maintains the movie as a black comedy.
also Nancy Allen and P.J Soles.
rnw2739 ...Nope. This is not their theatrical movie debut. Both appeared in other movies before this one.
Go in Peace and Walk with God. 😎 👍
@BigGator5 You are correct with Nancy Allen but incorrect with Ms Soles. 'Carrie' was her film debut.
Be assured a delightful evening.
rnw2739 ...PJ Soles theatrical movie debut was Blood Bath (1975).
Go with God and Be Safe from Evil. 😎 👍
To me, the house collapsed because she was unable to control her powers as she had only just discovered them. Plus the trauma she's just experienced and the fact that she'd just killed her mother - the energy was just too overwhelming.
I loved this movie because of the combination of the great actors (Spacek and Piper were both nominated for Oscar awards), the story, de Palma's skills, and the actual music which was sometimes soothing, sometimes jazzy, sometimes Psycho and scary, changing abruptly all the time to throw the audience off.
5:35 as long as needed... according to the book, mother found her next morning because she fell asleep in there...
6:26 that was common those days, teachers also taking part in the humiliation, I had a share of them myself as well...
7:29 Amy Irving plays Sue. She appeared in dozens of movies and TV productions. She even reprised her role as Sue Snell in a sequel to this movie (as a school counselor).
7:58 not today, but back in the 1970s for sure, I underwent several slaps as well back in the days when I was young.
10:34 teachers and students have different ideas about the same subject...
12:25 mother had only one "boy" and together, they conceived Carrie in an act of marital rape.
13:51 I was bullied at school a lot. I even underwent sexual abuse at age 6-7 and kept it secret for 20 years. I recall my school years as very stressful. Between school and college, my parents and I went for Summer holiday, just to forget everything, until that holiday suddenly ended with a car crash. I'm writing a novel about it right now.
19:35 in the 2002 version, Norma (who survived the prom) is questioned about the election. The detective found one of those ballots and thought they were forged.
26:13 in the book, there is an incident called "Rain of Stones" and she threatens her mom with it.
Sissy Spacek & Christopher Walken starred with Brendan Frasier in ...'Blast From The Past'....a pretty good rom -com from the 89s or 90s.
Proms have Prom Committees that are run by selected students and managed by a teacher or two. They decide the theme and get a budget for decorations and set up the decorations.
Tommy kissing Carrie at the dance was not a big deal for the promiscuous times in the 70s. I'm sure Sue might have gotten jealous though, most likely.
Promiscuity in the 70's was a kiss???? If only they had known how bad things would get on 2024...
Fantastic reaction. I had a million things I wanted to say but I fell asleep right near the end (only because I'm on a weird sleep schedule, not because of the reaction!). The acting in this movie is so great. Sissy Spacek, whew! In the 70s, she was in "Badlands" (great), "Carrie" (great) and then "3 Women" (great). "3 Women" is her and Shelley Duvall from The Shining (right before she made The Shining).....Shelley Duvall's best performance, she won Best Actress at Cannes for it. Weird movie, maybe for the channel, maybe off it, but worth seeing most definitely. "3 Women"! As far as horror, after "Carrie", I'm dying to see your reaction to "Rosemary's Baby"! You will have much to say about it! Also, next time you're feeling vintage.....hit "Gaslight" (1944). Another movie you will have much to say about!
My favorite John Travolta movie is “Blow Out”. Worth a look if you like suspense.
I’ve never heard of that one but will add it to my list, thanks!
Great suggestion! It has Travolta's best drama performance imho.
@@cinemawithstephBoth Blow Out and Carrie were directed by Brian De Palma. De Palma was also married to the actress playing Kris (Nancy Allan). Nancy and John both star in Blow Out
Yes, Blow Out is a great movie and shows Travolta at his dramatic best.
@@nickstark8640 Nancy also worked with her ex in Dressed to Kill, another good movie, with Angie Dickinson.
No Sue was not being tortured by Carrie at the end, it was Sue's mental state basically being messed up from the whole incident. Remember, Sue was never mean to her.
I was always the new kid growing up and so I was bullied a lot. But it was mostly verbal humiliation. A couple times I was hurt but then when I moved my last time to the US and went to high school then it stopped.
Yes, the 70s proms were a big deal. My sister went to one in NYC in the mid 1970s and the school rented a huge hall complete with orchestra. Every guy dressed in a tuxedo. My sister could not dance because her partner wore a maroon tuxedo, and only guys with black tuxedo were allowed on the dance floor. She was crying all night. It was a huge deal.
Ya we had "social clique" in High School - I was outside of all of them and a loner (loners like me and the other loners were picked on, but also kind of protected because we had no social value in cutting down). There were a couple of students in my HS that were targeted by nearly all social cliques (Druggies, Jocks, Soshes - those were the big three clicks, then the "outsiders/loners" (we were from all economic/racial classes, just socially introverted/aukward, like me (we where not a clique, just the left overs (its kinda like being a Repulican/Democrat (clique), and an Independent (the outsiders politically that can't fit in the current structure).
Anyway I remember this kid - he was flambointly gay (this was in the early 80's) and around 20 kids one afternoon chanted to him to "jump" from the stairs he was threatening to self-delete using. He was picked on for all 4 yrs, I was not there when this even happened (I was in a class on the other side of the building) - just heard the rumours that the kids chanted to him to jump. I don't rem if he jumped or not. I think he managed to graduate but not sure - we had 1000 students in 4 yr grade span at our HS so it was mid-sized.
There was another event - a teacher (and ya they can be dicks too) - when a girl started crying, he told the rest of the class not to fixate on her crying, "she just hit and killed another student on his motorcycle out in the parking lot yesterday".
Oh my gosh that is absolutely horrifying! That breaks my heart :(
This film was directed by Brian De Palma and the actress that played Kris is his wife. Brian directed another Thriller staring his wife and John Travolta. It’s called Blow Out. It’s a highly rated Thriller
That’s right!
On a side note, he’s also the Director such other great films like dressed to kill, Calico’s Way and my personal favorite, Scarface
Norma the one with the red hat she played on Halloween Carrie is the Best and original all the remakes are just that they are and will never be as good as the original so many great actors this movie was so well directed and put together. R.I.P Piper Laurie she passed away this month.
It BLOWS me away that people haven't seen this 40+ year old CLASSIC, but whatever......
Totally fair! It’s nothing my parents would’ve watched and I’m not typically someone who watches these types of movies. I’m glad I’ve been checking them out though. With them being classics like you said, it’s nice to finally know what people are talking about/referencing
I never watched it until last year when I blind bought the blu ray.
I think Carrie is suppose to be 16 or 17 years old.
as far as the blood goes, i think the main choice was to suggest that carrie was snapped back into a mode of trauma by the pigs blood, even more than wouldv been, because of the shower period scene.. all the hipsters will say its symbollic of holding a woman back and such, but i think its mostly just for more simple reasons.. of course the period scene also has other plot reasons such as showing carrie is naive, bullied, abused at home.. and the pig blood shows the bullies are horrible, and that they were mostly choosing to dump the blood on her directly because of the shower incident.. and of course it makes for one of the greatest images of carrie covered in blood at the end
I think the movie is more broadly about female power dynamics than bullying specifically. Tommy and Billy both kind of “go along” with their girlfriends’ requests without any particular stakes in it. Billy is baseline a jerk and Tommy is baseline well-mannered. In the book, Sue does get a little worried something might come of Tommy and Carrie together. Tommy has fairly simple motivation: “hey, this girl from my English class is pretty!”
Billy doesn’t even remember who she is. The men/boys in the story are largely oblivious to what is going on between the girls/women. The principal doesn’t even know her name and he is deeply embarrassed by the blood on Miss Collins’ shorts. It’s like they are in a different movie. A romantic comedy, perhaps.
Side note: I was bullied in 7th grade (but not high school) and that is when this movie came out. It does capture a particular rough energy of the time. I don’t know.
They used blood at the end because it was making fun of her because of the period situation at the beginning.
Had things gone well at the prom, Sue was probably going to lose her boyfriend to Carrie! I never felt that Sue's or Tommy's intentions were anything less than sincere. Then it becomes clear that he's attracted to Carrie at the prom, which of course wasn't planned. It just happened. Good reaction, thanks!
In the novel Sue tells Tommy to make sure that Carries night is magical and to do whatever he needs to do to make it so. I think the movie leaned in a little too far because in the book Carrie knows why Tommy is taking her to the dance and just goes along with it.
Movies are made more today for 5th graders, with everything explained. That's the marketing executives being shrewd, looking to appeal to a larger audience. In the 70s and earlier, there was often more ambiguity in stories, probably because at least some movies were being made as "art" and as "puzzles" to figure out, and not so much by accountants and lawyers aiming for the lowest common denominator. You'll see it in "The Shining," "The Exorcist," and in "2001: A Space Odyssey" and other films of the period. Ironically, this pattern probably begins to change with "Jaws" and the concept of the summer blockbuster. So the very success of cinema kind of did it in, in that sense. I'd say being very explicit and less mysterious became more normal in the 80s, and is fairly firmly in place as "proper form" in the 90s.
FYI Tommy's real mother is actress Barbara hale from perry mason she's della street perry's secretary
If you don't know Carrie is Stephen King... It's his first novel....
There gonna laugh at you !!..
"Why wouldn't her mom tell her about this?"
The real horror of Carrie is the lack of sex ed in schools. Carrie's mom abusing her with religion also needed a CPS intervention.
The lack of sex ed in schools? Well, we sure turned that corner. We are now teaching 6 year olds how to have anal sex. Truly despicable.
New subscriber. Love your reaction to this.
Yes,you could hit kids in the 70s🎩
That’s seems so crazy to me! I wonder when that actually stopped 🤔
They should bring that back, especially for woke kids.
@@trhansen3244What is wrong with you?! Seriously.
@@harley2704 What do you mean? Kids were disciplined like that for thousands of years and they turned out fine. Today, we see the results of not disciplining kids. They are a mess. We all see the evidence.
This was an exaggerated, but not inaccurate look at a public high school in the 1970s. Based on the way the guys behaved in the boys’ locker room when I was in high school, the girls’ behavior rang true to me (again, somewhat exaggerated for dramatic effect).
I was a bullied teen at the time the movie came out (nowhere near to the extent that Carrie was - it also helped that my family, though dysfunctional, fell within the norms of the day). The movie was very cathartic for me and I saw it multiple times in its original release (when I was 15 and 16).
Other things: corporal punishment was allowed, but in my school it was regulated. Miss Collins would probably have been reprimanded for slapping Chris (I think there may have been a scene shot and not used showing Chris’s father raising a stink with the principal-and there is a scene like that in the novel).
The ending: while I know now that De Palma intended to show a shower of rocks destroy the house (which would have “rhymed” with a similar scene - either not shot or unused - that would have been a kind of prologue which occurred when Carrie was a young child), budget constraints made it impossible to complete the sequence. When I first saw the movie my interpretation was that Carrie’s telekinetic powers simply went berserk and not being able to process all that happened to her she unwittingly made the house implode.
Great catch on noting the connection between Carrie’s first period and the emergence of her telekinesis. I believe that’s what both the author and the director had in mind.
And finally RIP to the wonderful Piper Laurie.
Thank you for such an enjoyable reaction! And apologies for my long and rambling comment!
Most of the bullying I got was in grade school. By high school everyone had pretty much chilled out. Despite being a choir nerd and having a few select friends I preferred to spend most of my time alone in the library so I wasn't in any of the cliques.
Swats were allowed at school in the 60's and 70's but no school I went to allowed physical abuse like a teacher slapping a student back then. In fact my mom had 3 teachers fired over our school years for a lot less. One over me and 2 because of my younger sister.
Why be so surprised and offended by slaps or other inappropriate behavior?
The world today is much worse it seems to me.
Its a horror classic and the acting is superb
Late 70’s I was about 10, I witnessed a teacher slap a girl, then spank her ass as she dragged her into a classroom, told my European parents about this and my dad nearly beat me for even bringing it up. Adults knew how to quickly eliminate any revolutionary decent in children😂
We didn’t act out of line.. I turned out ok though 🙄
I have zero problem with that slap scene. Today in America, students control the teachers. And they know it.
👋Good Afternoon Steph, and Thank You for today's Reaction!💝 I thought that My High School was Hell, but that girl had it far-worse than anybody else. I Recognized "Chris," She was played by Nancy Allen, and I know Her-Best from "RoboCop" (that was on one of Your recent Polls). My All-Time Favorite Stephen King adaptation is "Christine," and that one has been Recommended to You a Lot lately...🤞
I love the scenes with visually striking fire imagery in Carrie (1976) and Christine (1983). Also Firestarter (1984).
Hey Tom! Thanks for checking it out :) I do intend to check out RoboCop in the future as per my brothers request lol and I’ve definitely noticed the Christine suggestions! It’s on the list :)
@@cinemawithsteph (LOL) Sorry...take Your time, My Friend, there are So Many Good Movies still to come! Oh and "Thank" Your Brothers for Me: "RoboCop" ('87) is My All-Time Favorite! 😉👌
Sue is in the sequel carrie 2 THE RAGE SHE PLAYS A STUDENT COUNSELOR B SURE TOO CHECK IT OUT
My dear, you certainly must not have ever been introduced to a religious fanatic! That's what Margaret White was. She thought Carrie had sinned when the school called to tell her about what happened in gym class. It is explained a little better in the film. As a side note, both Sissy and Piper Laurie were nominated for Best Supporting Actress (Piper Laurie) and Best Actress (Sissy Spacek). I thought both should have won; however, they both lost. Brian DePalma, the director, originally wanted to cast Amy Irving (who played Sue) in the role of Carrie. Glad he changed his mind! Hope you enjoyed the film. It's in my personal favorites list. The prom scene (before the prank) was so touching: Carrie's first dance, her first kiss, the first time she had actually been treated decent. And, Carrie didn't (lose it) until she realized that Tommy was dead.
1. Stephen King threw this book away, but his wife took it out and told him to send it in. It's the first one that sold to a legitimate publisher that wasn't adult pulp and the first to be adapted into a movie.
2. Back then teachers were allowed to strike a student if warranted. (Class of 1979)
3. Another religious nut bag can be found in King's "The Mist".
4. Norma/PJ Soles 😍 Al long as I have a face....😋 (she has to ace that ballcap)
5. Sue, Tommy and Miss Collins really were trying to help Carrie. I read the book.
6. If Billy's a high school student, so am I.
7. Margaret's crucifixion pose is the same as the St. Sabastian.
8. Both Sissie and Piper Lauri were nominated for Acadamy Awards, but horror didn't get the love back then.
9. The only thing good in the second LOSER remake is Carrie/Chloe Grace Moretz could get it. (King remakes are 0/10)
Including "IT" and "The Stand".
Stephen King movies. IT, Stand by Me, The Stand, Thinner, are a few more
I think Tommy "caught feelings for Carrie" from the time he talked to her at her house and the dance. So i think it was genuine, he did not want to go initially, and only when along with it because Sue wanted him to.
As for Carrie, the scene where all the audience we laughing at her - including the nice teacher - was delusion on Carrie's part, she just "snapped" and imagined them laughing, so then shortly afterwards we see Carrie killing the nice teacher out of her delusional conviction that the teacher was in on it (humiliating Carrie) all along. Carrie just when temporarily insane - i.e. a "crime of passion" (I went crazy once - due to bulling when i was 17 - and would have shot the bully had i had a gun at the time - it would have been no problem (you just go on autopilot and another "thing"/"force"/"compulsion" drives to forward in your mentality and action. Thankfully i did not have a gun (my parents were smart enough not to have them in my house - had they I would have grabbed it and killed the bully SOB that nigh - i know it without a doubt). the next day I calmed down and reason and my mind took back over again, and I got to live "happily ever after" - that same bully got involved in the accedental death of one of his friends (another bully i knew in High School) about 6 years later, they got in a fight and he pushed the other guy who fell and hit his dead on the sidewalk and died a few days later in the hospital.
I think its clear Carrie offed herself at the end. IMO.
Thank you for pointing out the laughter was delusional! I meant to post that question and pin it to the video because I forgot to ask it while recording. I thought it might’ve been because right after the blood has been dropped, the classmates are serious and only the one girl laughs but then suddenly everyone is. Especially, like you pointed out, the teacher.
I’m so sorry you had such a terrible experience :( The psychology behind why all of this happens would be interesting to read/understand how people get to that place.
Hope you are having an great and awesome weekend ❤
Thanks so much! I hope you are too :)
I never read the book, but as for the correlation between the blood in the beginning of the movie and at the end, I think Carrie getting her first period establishes who the characters are; Carrie's crazy and abusive religious mother who never even told her explains why Carrie is so shy and awkward. Plus it gives the filmmakers an opportunity for gratuitous nudity with a teenage girls' locker room scene.
For myself Middle School was the hellscape and people were more chill in High School. I hated school regardless and was happy when it was over. There were some psychopaths and narcissists in my graduating class as with all thing, they are everywhere. When they realized I wasn't gonna take their shite lying down they gave up and moved on to others. In my experience sadly violence and the threat of violence was the only thing that worked to get them to piss off. I never watched this one until a few years ago because I had no interest in watching someone be tormented at school but it was on one night and I figured what the hell and it was alright, DePalma is better at thrillers and suspense than outright horror. But it is the best out of the 4 movies made from the Novel. The half hearted late 90's teen horror sequel was terrible the made for TV Movie from the early 00's was lame and the 2013 theatre movie remake was a half hearted waste of time that was from an era of many pointless horror remakes of originals that did the source material better even with lower budgets. Most horror remakes from 2005-13 were cheap money grabs with terrible CGI effects and luckily most are long forgotten now.
Great reaction one of my favourite films. If you like Stephen King stories I would highly recommend "Christine" . Also a great movie adaptation for Halloween.👍
Great reaction
Thank you!
Sneak in The Exorcist and Texas Chainsaw Massacre Steph. Trust me, you'll like both
The Exorcist, yes! I recommend the extended version
People are this spiteful all the time. Not only high school, but afterword.
You can drink and drive, but not legally.
The HORROR movie might have something to say.... there wouldn't be anything out of the ordinary....
If you like Sissy Spacek murder spree movies look up the 1973 film 'Bandlands' with Martin Sheen. Its a classic.
I think Sue's boyfriend might have been killed when he was hit in the head with the bucket, but I'm not sure.
off topic - but started hearing music, there is a guy in the alley behind my backyard singing and playing guitar (I went out thinking i was hearing things - he looks like a homeless guy (I have many here where i live) - he asked if he was bothering me, i said hell no, he plays a good guitar, so now I have authentic music while posting here - lol.
We do have too many homeless and they started showing up about 5 years ago - not right for a supposed "1st world nation" - America has to be broken to have this many homeless.
America - fix yourself! how? no clue, but please figure something out. we cant continue on this way.
168th I saw this when it came out I was 16 , Class of 79 ...I never saw a teacher hit a kid - but I did see a few shaken once or twice....... LOL Loved your reaction ...64 this yr - dammm you TIME!!!!
Eu não vejo uma razão para o riso! É algo tão infantoide!!!
A period piece 😅
I'll see myself out.
👏I give You "Applause" for that one...👍
This was fantastic lol
Hello, you look like Carrie's teacher from the 2002 version xd
Okay, this is like a real DUMB thing that I'm not doing.
The star is sissy spacek she is great actress this launched into stardom her mom was violated and that’s why she is this way
Stephen King's interpretation of Jean Grey?🤔
You’re from another generation. When I watched this in a theatre when it first came out (when I was in 8th grade) this is just how high school was.
I’m 60 now and see how your generation just isnt familiar with this time period. Understandable .
I wish all the channels would chose different movies to react to
Totally understand! I try to make a point of not doing that, but these were voted for ahead of time and I’m always going to follow through on that :)
@@cinemawithsteph please choose a few movies that don't get much if any traction, it will really e good for your channel
In Steph's defense: Yes this has been a very popular choice for Many to React to lately, but (like She said) this one was also Voted for Her.
@@tomhoffman4330 I don't think she intentionally did something wrong, it's just an easy trap to fall into. That is all I was trying to say.
@@Socrates... That's Fair...plus I do Agree, and Hope that We can Recommend some other / lesser-known Movies for Steph to Enjoy. I've certainly got My List ready...
Carrie's house doesn't have a shower. Don't be so privileged. :P
The list of Stephen King books made into movies is much too long to post here. I will call out stand by me, Shashank redemption and the green mile. The movies are almost unlimited.
Those too??! Wow I had no idea! I’ll make a point of googling the list because that’s unreal.
@@cinemawithsteph it's kinda unbelievable. I just googled, there's over 50.
OVER 50?!?😲I don't even think that I could name 10 of 'em...
Haven't read the book, but am I seriously the only person who ever got a very strong sense that Mrs. White is a Psychic? She knows exactly what is going to happen to Carrie. "They're all gonna laugh at you!". Ultimately given the same wounds as her St. Sébastien effigy she forced her daughter to repent to all her life, she's always known about what Carrie will become, hence her overly religious immersion. Carrie's powers run in the family!
the 70s! millennial's and zoomers would never have survived... lol.
Hello Mr. Valentine can you please react to the movie Jo Jo Rabbit?
Can you please react to the horror movie Stigmata Starring Patricia Arquette Please 😊