Thank you for this very informative video! For some reason I like the "sound" of monitors more than that of HiFi-Speakers, so I might get either the HD7 or HD9 for listening to music. I know they are not intended to be used for that purpose, but I just don't like how most modern headphones sound...
i have the hd7 and they're yeah very good. mine are breaking slowly and i'm trying to jankily prolong the life as long as i can, but i need to find a good replacement so thanks for the review
i was looking into these and are gonna get them because of this video, thank you for going deep in how it feels to wear thats a BIG thing for me my old one hurts my ears soo much and it kills my ears when playing games but how is the bass in the hd9 and the soundproof from outside noises i have loud backgrounds that i need to tune out
Good review! Scrolling through the comments section, I couldn't help but wonder how utterly frustrating it must be to constantly be asked 'what is the difference between tracking/mixing/mastering?' A quick scan reveals you've already answered that question several times. Additionally, anyone with access to RUclips has access to Google, so the answer is readily available. My fave question is 'which are good headphones for listening to music?' Mindboggling. Thanks for your patience.
Just tried out my new Hd9 for listening to music, so are so comfy and the sound quality is super amazing Presonus have done it again. Thanks for the review.
You CAN, but that not what they were designed for. They were designed as tracking headphones to complement the HD7s, which are semi-open backed headphones. The HD7s can be used for both tracking and mixing, but a re better for mixing. The HD9s, being closed backed, keep all the lows in the cans, and as such, actually naturally hype the lows because of this. You don't want that when mixing. You want as flat a frequency response as possible, otherwise it will skew your mixes.
Just klicked "Buy!" for the HD9 - but your advice for the HD 7 let me change my order and I think I will be very lucky because of your Review! Props from Germany to UK!
Depends what you are using them for. The HD9s are perfect for recording, being closed-backed; but the HD7s are great for mixing because they are semi-open-backed.
@@JonnyLipshamStudios 1st I didn´t want to have special headphones. In my studio I work with Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro and DT 990 Pro and I am very satisfied with both of them. I just ´ve been watching for nice looking headphones for less money for easy Studio One jamming on the balcony or my living room. Where happens no recording. There I create new song ideas, do a very little bit of mixing or listening to music. So as I saw this video right here and heard you telling about the HD 7 mixing skill and the absolute low price... There was no way out! I had to buy it! Immediately! Twice! And I am sure, I will get lucky :-)THXALOT!!!
@@SoundslikeTunesTV Hello. Did you buy PreSonus HD9 ? Liked they you, you can a bit to tell or compare. I want to buy them for listening to music. Me and Russia Google translator
@@steg7337 Hi! I did not buy them. But I never would buy closed headphones for listening to music. The HD 7 I bought satisfy me totally - they are open. I like it that way! Does my opinion help you?
@@mertaslan4191 I bought the HD 7, they are very good, however, they don´t match the clarity of my very old Fostex T-7 which I find to be really better than the Presonus HD 7. They are old but at the time I paid a lot more, maybe that price difference still plays a roll. I must say, I am very happy with the presonus HD 7! Greetings from Germany.
The HD9's look good Jonny. I've already got the PreSonus Studio 2/6 Audio Interface in my Aussie Studio collection and its amazing (upgraded now to SSL@+ 4K), so I was hoping to hear this brand had done it again with these Studio Monitor cans. I only wish they had a removable coiled cable like my AT ATH-M50x which I use daily. Thanks for the review from the UK.
You're welcome! Glad the review helped you. The Studio Series of interfaces are fantastic. I have the 1824c. The loopback mode via universal Control allows me a much better quality way to make videos and do my weekly livestream that at the time of making this video.
nice review thanks a lot! i subscribed :) but i was wondering, 1. which one is better and flat when it comes to mix-mastering, monitoring and tracking 2. which one has the better sound quality and which one do you prefer the most? edit: can you explain what is the difference between mixing and tracking? i know i asked a lot of questions sorry but i'm curious xd sorry for my english
In the video I state that the HD7s are designed for mixing and mastering and the HD9s are designed for tracking. Mixing is the process of balancing the recorded tracks volume, place in the stereo field, and making space for each track so it can be heard equally. This is done with EQ and compression. The HD7s are best suited to this task. Both are very high quality for the price-point they are at.
I Im looking for headphones to play elecrtonic drum (Roland HD11) and I want u ask u what do u think about HD7 for this. I though to buy as well alesis PR100 and Shure SHR240a...thanks and great review.
Tracking is when you are recording tracks. You need complete coverage of the ears for that, so you get no click bleed. Mixing is what happens when all the recording is done and you now need to blend all the tracks together. For this, you don't want complete coverage, you want open backed headphones to allow the low end to escape so you can get a better low end balance in your mix.
I'm torn about what to get. I just want to play and record my guitar and bass playing. Not sure what to get whether the HD7 or HD9 😬 i might mix a little bit, but not professionally. Just do some covers and stuff around guitar recording
The HD7s are very good for mixing. Be sure to make use of good reference tracks and check your mix against it and on another set of headphones you know really well.
Thanks, Vatche. leads are a good 2 meters (6ft) long with standard mini-jack headphone connectors, but both have 1/4" adaptors in the box. Leads are hardwired, so cannot be disconnected from the headphones.
Bought the HD9's and they sounded great. Put them away in a drawer for safe storage while I was on the road... came back and one side died. Had used them not more than a few months, but too late for the guarantee. Not impressed.
Tracking is essentially recording your tracks for your song. Mixing is balancing the tracks in your DAW through the use of faders, pan controls, EQ, compression, reverbs and delays until you have a completed mix ready for mastering.
@@JonnyLipshamStudios How's that different? I think you can use "monitor" headphones not only for professional mixing/editing/recording, but also as an option to commercial headphones. I actually prefer to use flat headphones for music listening and decide either to leave it flat o EQ it a bit.
@@JonnyLipshamStudios i got my hd7s and they are fine.I find them pronounced on the mids and highs.While mixing,i find them clear and defined but a bit muffled..after that i tried other regular headphones and IEMs, just to hear some comparison and now they really sound muffled,nosey like sound. Now what I do is I put on the hd7s again,this time I cut any nosey sound in the mids,then raise those highs generously. I am discovering mixing and mastering texhniques..I may do some things differently yet I am not sure about it.tips and suggestions are welcome.thanks
Got one question and i hope you will see this. You say that hd9 are good/better for tracking than hd7. But, since they are closed, bass builds up. Wouldn't that be a worse option when recording heavy guitars in low tunings where lots of palm mute playing is used? Thanks in advance and thanks for the video!
No. The closed back nature of the HD9s means that the sound does not leak out of the backs of the headphones, so it will not get picked up as much by microphones. That is why you would use them for recording. It does not matter about bass build up, since you are not mixing. You are recording. However, with the HD7s, they are semi-open backed. This means that sound escapes more out of the backs and can be more easily picked up by mics. But, when you are mixing, this is a good thing. The bass energy will escape more, meaning less bass build up and a more true sound response that you can trust when mixing. Since there are no mics being recorded when mixing, there will be no bleed to worry about.
@@JonnyLipshamStudios Then in my case its logical to go for hd7 for better hearing while mixing, if i am already confident that guitar sound and it's effects are set up properly? Thanks for your explanation and your time. :)
@@diode86 - If you can afford it, go for both! That way you have a good set of recording headphones, and a good set of mixing headphones - especially if speakers are not really an option for you. Or, your room is not acoustically treated.
The HD9s are closed backed, and have very good closure with the cups. They leak hardly any sound, but it really depends on how loud you run them. The HD7s are semi-open backed, and so will leak more sound, since they are designed that way more for mixing than tracking. However, with the sound level set fairly low, you don't get a lot of bleed.
@@furkantasoglu911 - I'd say yes, but the frequency responses are quite different because of different designs and intent. PreSonus has some new headphones out that would suit the casual listener. Go check out the new HD10BTs. They are bluetooth headphones and feature amazing noise cancelling.
I have had 4 sets of HD7s for more than 5 years. All are in good working condition and are used regularly. The HD9s are really good for tracking. All my clients that have used them in my studio have gone on to buy a set for themselves.
The HD7s are fairly flat, having their primary design for mixing (but they can be used for tracking too); but the HD9s are not flat. They have a more extended bass response. They are designed for tracking.
@@JonnyLipshamStudios i got the hd -9 ... They work really good in all ways exept the bass situation... I do diffrent genres also... Its very hard to mix any with all the bass... I mean for 75 bucks aaayyy lol i understand... But yea bass much bass in these
@@jonnymak1079 - As I mentioned in the video, the HD-9s are designed for recording, not for mixing, since they are closed-backed. which, as you note, hypes the bass response. If you want mixing headphones, get the HD-7s. Those are semi-open, which makes them very useful for mixing.
@@JonnyLipshamStudios makes sence But even for recording... Your gunna want not too much bass lol Ill stick with the sonys...they are AWESOME but much more expensive With recording mixing mastering you really get what you pay for honestly And you want real sound in this fake digital world even if recording ...and flat with not much effects... So even wen recording...lol TOO MUCH BASS. But i appreciate getting back to me Maybe i suck lol but i dont see how when recording it doesnt matter if theres too much bass...especally rap or deathmetal Its easyer to rec not as noisey or to get good bass with realer sounding headphones Deathmetal is probably the hardest music to rec and mix ...so its diffrent :)
Actually, that's not entirely true. Grammy award winning mixer Andrew Schepps mixes on a laptop with Beats headphones! But, for the most part, I agree entirely. For making my videos, I use headphones because otherwise the monitors bleed into the mic and ruin the video.
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Thanks - I was just looking to get a pair of the HD7 headphones on Fly Buys, and this review is just what I was looking for.
Thank you for taking the time to share about the headphones ... very helpful ....
I was researching 2 pairs of headphones for exactly these purposes. Ironic the first review I ran across was you :) Great review, JL..
Thanks for the reviewing both products ...I am clear now and can buy hd7 for mixing purpose.
Great review! Just what I was looking for :) Perfect
You're welcome!
Thank you for this very informative video! For some reason I like the "sound" of monitors more than that of HiFi-Speakers, so I might get either the HD7 or HD9 for listening to music. I know they are not intended to be used for that purpose, but I just don't like how most modern headphones sound...
great video Jonny !! thanks for posting
Glad you enjoyed it
i have the hd7 and they're yeah very good. mine are breaking slowly and i'm trying to jankily prolong the life as long as i can, but i need to find a good replacement so thanks for the review
i was looking into these and are gonna get them because of this video, thank you for going deep in how it feels to wear thats a BIG thing for me my old one hurts my ears soo much and it kills my ears when playing games but how is the bass in the hd9 and the soundproof from outside noises i have loud backgrounds that i need to tune out
Bass response is fantastic and the seals are great.
Good review! Scrolling through the comments section, I couldn't help but wonder how utterly frustrating it must be to constantly be asked 'what is the difference between tracking/mixing/mastering?' A quick scan reveals you've already answered that question several times. Additionally, anyone with access to RUclips has access to Google, so the answer is readily available. My fave question is 'which are good headphones for listening to music?' Mindboggling. Thanks for your patience.
Thanks for your comment and your support!
Just tried out my new Hd9 for listening to music, so are so comfy and the sound quality is super amazing Presonus have done it again. Thanks for the review.
Great to hear!
I am a audio engineer yes you can mix with the HD9
You CAN, but that not what they were designed for. They were designed as tracking headphones to complement the HD7s, which are semi-open backed headphones. The HD7s can be used for both tracking and mixing, but a re better for mixing. The HD9s, being closed backed, keep all the lows in the cans, and as such, actually naturally hype the lows because of this. You don't want that when mixing. You want as flat a frequency response as possible, otherwise it will skew your mixes.
may i ask how to adjust hd7's clamp force? it's not comfortable to the skull.
thank you so muchhhh
what is better
semi open
or
closed back
??
Just klicked "Buy!" for the HD9 - but your advice for the HD 7 let me change my order and I think I will be very lucky because of your Review! Props from Germany to UK!
Depends what you are using them for. The HD9s are perfect for recording, being closed-backed; but the HD7s are great for mixing because they are semi-open-backed.
@@JonnyLipshamStudios 1st I didn´t want to have special headphones. In my studio I work with Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro and DT 990 Pro and I am very satisfied with both of them. I just ´ve been watching for nice looking headphones for less money for easy Studio One jamming on the balcony or my living room. Where happens no recording. There I create new song ideas, do a very little bit of mixing or listening to music. So as I saw this video right here and heard you telling about the HD 7 mixing skill and the absolute low price... There was no way out! I had to buy it! Immediately! Twice! And I am sure, I will get lucky :-)THXALOT!!!
@@SoundslikeTunesTV Hello. Did you buy PreSonus HD9 ? Liked they you, you can a bit to tell or compare. I want to buy them for listening to music. Me and Russia Google translator
@@steg7337 Hi! I did not buy them. But I never would buy closed headphones for listening to music. The HD 7 I bought satisfy me totally - they are open. I like it that way! Does my opinion help you?
@@SoundslikeTunesTV Yes. Thanks for replying
I own both. They are good for mixing and mastering.
@@alexpushkin50very detailed so easy listening dough.
very informative review, I will get the HD7, later on the HD9. I trust in the way you explain, well done! Keep it up! Greetings from Germany, Alfredo
I just bought it, now waiting for its arrival :-) many greetings and thanks again.
Thanks a lot!
@@papa.alfredo which one you got sir and how is it ?
@@mertaslan4191 I bought the HD 7, they are very good, however, they don´t match the clarity of my very old Fostex T-7 which I find to be really better than the Presonus HD 7. They are old but at the time I paid a lot more, maybe that price difference still plays a roll. I must say, I am very happy with the presonus HD 7! Greetings from Germany.
The HD9's look good Jonny. I've already got the PreSonus Studio 2/6 Audio Interface in my Aussie Studio collection and its amazing (upgraded now to SSL@+ 4K), so I was hoping to hear this brand had done it again with these Studio Monitor cans. I only wish they had a removable coiled cable like my AT ATH-M50x which I use daily. Thanks for the review from the UK.
You're welcome! Glad the review helped you. The Studio Series of interfaces are fantastic. I have the 1824c. The loopback mode via universal Control allows me a much better quality way to make videos and do my weekly livestream that at the time of making this video.
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nice review thanks a lot! i subscribed :) but i was wondering, 1. which one is better and flat when it comes to mix-mastering, monitoring and tracking 2. which one has the better sound quality and which one do you prefer the most?
edit: can you explain what is the difference between mixing and tracking?
i know i asked a lot of questions sorry but i'm curious xd
sorry for my english
In the video I state that the HD7s are designed for mixing and mastering and the HD9s are designed for tracking.
Mixing is the process of balancing the recorded tracks volume, place in the stereo field, and making space for each track so it can be heard equally. This is done with EQ and compression. The HD7s are best suited to this task.
Both are very high quality for the price-point they are at.
@@JonnyLipshamStudios thanks a lot man appreciate it
I Im looking for headphones to play elecrtonic drum (Roland HD11) and I want u ask u what do u think about HD7 for this. I though to buy as well alesis PR100 and Shure SHR240a...thanks and great review.
hey bro good vid can I ask what is the difference between mixing and Tracking?
Tracking is when you are recording tracks. You need complete coverage of the ears for that, so you get no click bleed. Mixing is what happens when all the recording is done and you now need to blend all the tracks together. For this, you don't want complete coverage, you want open backed headphones to allow the low end to escape so you can get a better low end balance in your mix.
I'm torn about what to get. I just want to play and record my guitar and bass playing. Not sure what to get whether the HD7 or HD9 😬 i might mix a little bit, but not professionally. Just do some covers and stuff around guitar recording
If you can afford - get both.
How efficient is the HD7 in mixing when you compare it to monitors? I have no budget to purchase monitors as of now, so my only choice is the HD7.
The HD7s are very good for mixing. Be sure to make use of good reference tracks and check your mix against it and on another set of headphones you know really well.
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You said about hd7 "they will not lie to you" i said "I WANT THIS"
Hi jonny! I m just music listener and l like naturaly transparent sound. Which one sould l prefer? Thank ypu.
For just listening, I would recommend the HD9s They are closed-backed and are better for that sort of thing than the HD7s.
may i ask how to adjust hd7's clamp force? it's not comfortable to the skull.
Just loosen them off a bit at the sides.
no mention of lead length, connectors or options.
Thanks, Vatche. leads are a good 2 meters (6ft) long with standard mini-jack headphone connectors, but both have 1/4" adaptors in the box. Leads are hardwired, so cannot be disconnected from the headphones.
well most probably the same as the hd7 which a very long lead about 2m
@@tmussOfficial - Correct.
what are the two type of connectors equipped on the personus reference headphones
1/8th inch jack with 1/4 inch adaptor is what comes in the box.
Jonny Lipsham Studios thank you and one more question do you know why they have two different adaptors
Bought the HD9's and they sounded great. Put them away in a drawer for safe storage while I was on the road... came back and one side died. Had used them not more than a few months, but too late for the guarantee. Not impressed.
Não comprem HD7 tem histórico de problemas, o meu queimou a placa lateral com 4 meses de uso e a garantia não cobriu.
Are these headphones better than the akg k240 studio or mkii?
In my opinion, based on extensive testing, they certainly are definitely as good as those. Then, it comes down to personal taste after that.
sorry for my ignorance, but what are the difference between "mixing" and "tracking"? Thanks.
Tracking is essentially recording your tracks for your song. Mixing is balancing the tracks in your DAW through the use of faders, pan controls, EQ, compression, reverbs and delays until you have a completed mix ready for mastering.
@@JonnyLipshamStudios and the following question should be what is mastering ? :)
Presonus HD7 headphone or sennheiser 280 pro which is better for mixing?
Both are great for mixing. The 280s are more expensive though.
hd 9 is it good for listen to music ?
Yes. But they are designed for tracking.
@@JonnyLipshamStudios How's that different? I think you can use "monitor" headphones not only for professional mixing/editing/recording, but also as an option to commercial headphones. I actually prefer to use flat headphones for music listening and decide either to leave it flat o EQ it a bit.
Are HD7 good for mixing Trap music especially the low end frequencies...are they giving clear real sound?
They are great for getting a good, well balanced mix in any genre of music.
@@JonnyLipshamStudios i got my hd7s and they are fine.I find them pronounced on the mids and highs.While mixing,i find them clear and defined but a bit muffled..after that i tried other regular headphones and IEMs, just to hear some comparison and now they really sound muffled,nosey like sound. Now what I do is I put on the hd7s again,this time I cut any nosey sound in the mids,then raise those highs generously.
I am discovering mixing and mastering texhniques..I may do some things differently yet I am not sure about it.tips and suggestions are welcome.thanks
Got one question and i hope you will see this. You say that hd9 are good/better for tracking than hd7. But, since they are closed, bass builds up. Wouldn't that be a worse option when recording heavy guitars in low tunings where lots of palm mute playing is used? Thanks in advance and thanks for the video!
No. The closed back nature of the HD9s means that the sound does not leak out of the backs of the headphones, so it will not get picked up as much by microphones. That is why you would use them for recording. It does not matter about bass build up, since you are not mixing. You are recording. However, with the HD7s, they are semi-open backed. This means that sound escapes more out of the backs and can be more easily picked up by mics. But, when you are mixing, this is a good thing. The bass energy will escape more, meaning less bass build up and a more true sound response that you can trust when mixing. Since there are no mics being recorded when mixing, there will be no bleed to worry about.
@@JonnyLipshamStudios Then in my case its logical to go for hd7 for better hearing while mixing, if i am already confident that guitar sound and it's effects are set up properly? Thanks for your explanation and your time. :)
@@diode86 - If you can afford it, go for both! That way you have a good set of recording headphones, and a good set of mixing headphones - especially if speakers are not really an option for you. Or, your room is not acoustically treated.
I've listened to the Presonus HD9, and they're OK, but I'd spend $20 more and go with the Sennheiser HD 280, Audio-Technica ATH-M40x or Sony MDR-7506.
Each to their own. I personally would never mix on the HD9s. But for tracking, they are really good. But we all each have our own opinions and tastes.
Does the headphone leak a lot of noise?
The HD9s are closed backed, and have very good closure with the cups. They leak hardly any sound, but it really depends on how loud you run them. The HD7s are semi-open backed, and so will leak more sound, since they are designed that way more for mixing than tracking. However, with the sound level set fairly low, you don't get a lot of bleed.
@@JonnyLipshamStudios Another question let's say for a normal user is the sound quality better than most of the beats, sony, sennheiser and such?
@@furkantasoglu911 - I'd say yes, but the frequency responses are quite different because of different designs and intent. PreSonus has some new headphones out that would suit the casual listener. Go check out the new HD10BTs. They are bluetooth headphones and feature amazing noise cancelling.
@@JonnyLipshamStudios I'm on a tight budget and the only other option for me is maybe the m20x's but they're not compact so I will probably buy these
Mine were fine until about 2 years after I started using them, when the ear cup covering starting flaking off. Poor craftsmanship that.
the 7 are cheap constructed like the superlux that thin plastic headband breaks too soon..and the h9 are a copy of the ath m 50
I have had 4 sets of HD7s for more than 5 years. All are in good working condition and are used regularly. The HD9s are really good for tracking. All my clients that have used them in my studio have gone on to buy a set for themselves.
Are this flat?
The HD7s are fairly flat, having their primary design for mixing (but they can be used for tracking too); but the HD9s are not flat. They have a more extended bass response. They are designed for tracking.
@@JonnyLipshamStudios which are better hd 7 or audio technica m50 x
@@autshock - I'm not a fan of AT products at all. So, I'd say the PreSonus HD7s, personally.
tha hd9 is a rebranded AT H M50
They have too much bass
Other then that theyr good and comfy
But crazy bass too much
Which ones? The HD-7s are pretty flat actually.
@@JonnyLipshamStudios i got the hd -9 ... They work really good in all ways exept the bass situation...
I do diffrent genres also... Its very hard to mix any with all the bass...
I mean for 75 bucks aaayyy lol i understand...
But yea bass much bass in these
@@jonnymak1079 - As I mentioned in the video, the HD-9s are designed for recording, not for mixing, since they are closed-backed. which, as you note, hypes the bass response. If you want mixing headphones, get the HD-7s. Those are semi-open, which makes them very useful for mixing.
@@JonnyLipshamStudios makes sence
But even for recording... Your gunna want not too much bass lol
Ill stick with the sonys...they are AWESOME
but much more expensive
With recording mixing mastering you really get what you pay for honestly
And you want real sound in this fake digital world even if recording ...and flat with not much effects... So even wen recording...lol TOO MUCH BASS.
But i appreciate getting back to me
Maybe i suck lol but i dont see how when recording it doesnt matter if theres too much bass...especally rap or deathmetal
Its easyer to rec not as noisey or to get good bass with realer sounding headphones
Deathmetal is probably the hardest music to rec and mix ...so its diffrent :)
You shouldn't be mixing on headphones anyways. Use your monitors.
Actually, that's not entirely true. Grammy award winning mixer Andrew Schepps mixes on a laptop with Beats headphones! But, for the most part, I agree entirely. For making my videos, I use headphones because otherwise the monitors bleed into the mic and ruin the video.