streuth , all that gunk recirculated back into engine and pistons made of putty , what a mess , give me a nice old motor anyday , why on earth do we have to pay a mint for junk these days , really enjoyable vid Al , thanks
I reckon the Ford engineers know it's not the best idea to send the exhaust gases back through the engine, but they were given one task to reduce emissions so that Ford could sell a few more. The clever bit is making the engine last just long enough so that it fails outside of warranty. Then its win win, a van sale and a new engine.
Since Toyota no longer makes the best bulletproof vans in the UK anymore and I'm looking for a new one, Ford and PSA Vans are out the door I think I will go for a Mercedes Vito instead. 👍
The engines r absolute chocolate. Did an engine on a 15 plate transit 2.2 diesel for exactly what happened with number 3 piston knocky knocky.Replaced it with a reconditioned ending block then bout a year later came in for a knocking noise stripped it down and exactly the same thing number three piston had went bye bye so they scrapped the van. Got an 18 plate transit in the now with 80 odd thousand miles on it and reckon this is what has happened this time again.
The first time I did a chain on a 2.2 euro 4 engine (front wheel drive, so plenty of room too) I was knackered after starting half way through the day and forgot to time the bottom end (as the chain had snapped). I remember the satisfaction of pulling the pin on the grenade (tensioner) and the sinking feeling as I spotted the crank locking plate still in the box on the side... 🤦♀
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Our older generation Transit minibus with the supposedly trusty 2.4D jumped a couple of links on its timing chain last week for no apparent reason. Been told it's an engine out and dismantled job. Mind you, it's done 250k so it owes us nothing....
Absolutely lovin’ what you’re doin’, Al, and especially the way you’re doin’ it - don’t change a single thing! Glad you mentioned the stretch bolts, as I was going to ask! However, you said the timing chain would be ok - cost to Customer aside, would it not be better to change the chain anyway, given that she might have been given a rough ride as a result of the very Religious (Holy) Piston No. 3? Keep ‘em comin’ JCHK
The chain is in really good condition and I can’t see the point in replacing it’s just for the sake of it. Mans having a painful enough month as it is 👍
My mate had a similar thing with a diesel mondeo years ago, burnt no.3 piston, turned out it was caused by a weeping injector, dripping whilst the engine was off. Could this be caused by something similar....?
Could well be Al, Ford injectors havent been great for years now. And not getting any better, don't get me started on their bloody wet belts either, they're an even worse idea. I'll stick to my 1995 Mitzi Pajero 4m40, 146k, still on its original injectors, never fails to start on the button, even in minus 12'c. Old motors are so much more reliable
Is this the same engine they used in the Mark 7 transit? 2.2 turbodiesel? Or is this a different one? Sweating a bit coz I just bought one and can not afford to have this happen to me.
As I said in the last video my mate replaced 2 and 3 with 1 and 4 from another feked 2.2. Unbelievable how sh1t that engine is. He got told its usually one of the middle 2 that go. Don't seem to matter if driven gentle or wragged. You can do two DI engines in the time to fix it.
Hi my friend...could you get the test chart for the injectors from the injector shop... These injectors live at the bottom of the test plan and I think that is the reason for the engine not living long! Hope this helps
Great informative video, although could we have the old music back it feels weird watching without that in the background. Looking forward to seeing you work on that XM.
Emission control systems have made engines overly complex, the only real winners are the manufacturers. I feel sorry for the guy this happened to, do the right thing and you get screwed.
We have a 2014 Transit 460 minibus with the 155bhp 2.2 Puma engine, 25k miles! What should we do to prevent this? Good idea to get 4 new injectors? Have a specialist test the injectors? Thanks for a great video.
Is there a reason. Why number 3 piston is most likely to fail cause recirculated crap first point of entry hot point stress or injector problem. Still. Its not a good advert for reliability
Last recon engine with fitting and some overhauled injectors came to around 5k so this is the cheaper and in my view better option. I recon we’ll be out of it around 2 ish and know exactly what we’ve got engine wise if that makes any sense 👍
@@6DDIESELSDorset I’d say a 2 year lease on a new one and kiss it good bye with say 40k on it is a better idea unless you can stomach £2000 for a rebuild and a loss ofvt(e van for 3 weeks so hire one l I’d say there’s a school of thought a 25 year old minter with a proper engine is a better idea as a stand by
Back in the 1960’s Ford built a 10 year life cycle into their vehicles by choice. Why make them last forever as then nobody would buy new vehicles. Just look around when you are driving, you don’t see many Fords over 10 years old on the road these days because they are “life expired”. Go back to the 1970’s and five year old cars were literally falling apart.
Hi all looking for some help/ advice I have limp mode and engine service now lights only comes on only when driving on motorway, I have installed refurbished turbo myself, had a local garage install brand new genuine Ford ECU and still having same issue when on motorway only garage now want to install a genuine Ford turbo at £1000 is there anything else I can check/ clean first as it drives fine on normal roads codes are P0299 and P2563. 2.2 RWD minibus 2015
Will you be taking this for a remap, apparently there's an ecu fault that causes the overfuelling rather than an injector fault... But also the injectors are poo too!!
Modern/new vehicles just not made like the old ones! Shame on Ford for producing such rubbish. My old LT35 sailed through 230K before I sold it. Engine was sweet as a nut.
If you think this mk8 engine is shite then guess what ? the later ecoblue engines are even worse they use a wet timing belt that strips its teeth around the 60k mark as well as headgasket issues egr cooler issues .
From of what I heard off the melting pistons is caused by over fueling you need to get remap done before drive it we had 3 blown up all under 70 .000 miles but non since however it's early days but the mileage is going up and repairs is down PS Don't get the ford remap it's the same as you have (Transit customer 30 years )
Not knowing much about a modern diesel engine your video taught me a great deal, so thanks for sharing it.
a great big 'ole in the pistonage.....fixy fixy cleanage rachetage and hopefully no more carnage
Once again, a great informative video without getting too techy. Love the humour. Keep it up!
streuth , all that gunk recirculated back into engine and pistons made of putty , what a mess , give me a nice old motor anyday , why on earth do we have to pay a mint for junk these days , really enjoyable vid Al , thanks
This channel's the bollocks im hooked.
Cheers fella 👍
love the way you explain things in common mans terms without the look at me im so clever attitude of others on youtube......love your videos
Bought new [or pre registered new] fords for last 30 yrs, pleased to say, no more. Brand new Hyunda Tucson , love it.
I reckon the Ford engineers know it's not the best idea to send the exhaust gases back through the engine, but they were given one task to reduce emissions so that Ford could sell a few more. The clever bit is making the engine last just long enough so that it fails outside of warranty. Then its win win, a van sale and a new engine.
Please bring the old music back AL. Love the channel keep up the great work. 👍
Enjoying this mate look forward to more .
Since Toyota no longer makes the best bulletproof vans in the UK anymore and I'm looking for a new one, Ford and PSA Vans are out the door I think I will go for a Mercedes Vito instead. 👍
Blimey, I enjoyed exchanging messages with a like minded person anyway. Please keep it up mate. We enjoyed it 😀
The engines r absolute chocolate. Did an engine on a 15 plate transit 2.2 diesel for exactly what happened with number 3 piston knocky knocky.Replaced it with a reconditioned ending block then bout a year later came in for a knocking noise stripped it down and exactly the same thing number three piston had went bye bye so they scrapped the van. Got an 18 plate transit in the now with 80 odd thousand miles on it and reckon this is what has happened this time again.
6:11 what did you have to do with the injectors when you swap the engine
The first time I did a chain on a 2.2 euro 4 engine (front wheel drive, so plenty of room too) I was knackered after starting half way through the day and forgot to time the bottom end (as the chain had snapped). I remember the satisfaction of pulling the pin on the grenade (tensioner) and the sinking feeling as I spotted the crank locking plate still in the box on the side... 🤦♀
Brilliant video
Perfect; landed just as i start nightshift 👌🙂
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What does it cost to fix an engine? What goes like this by yourself?
Ace thanx
Im so glad i got the sprinter with the om642 even with the dodgy 8 mm injector hold down bolt rather than the mk8 transit i was considering.
Our older generation Transit minibus with the supposedly trusty 2.4D jumped a couple of links on its timing chain last week for no apparent reason. Been told it's an engine out and dismantled job. Mind you, it's done 250k so it owes us nothing....
I cant see a hole, oh there it is, should be a nice easy(ish) repair if the bore isnt scored, another excellent video.
What’s the point in having plastesine pistons in a commercial engine
A genuine question, but wouldn’t it be wise to replace all 4 pistons? Or is it just the customers budget? Great videos 👍👍
Great video they don't sell the transit here in the states with a diesel petrol only,I wonder why🍋
I've seen this happen so many times whilst working for JLR UK, and they always try and blame the problem on the customer and not the product!!!
Absolutely lovin’ what you’re doin’, Al, and especially the way you’re doin’ it - don’t change a single thing!
Glad you mentioned the stretch bolts, as I was going to ask! However, you said the timing chain would be ok - cost to Customer aside, would it not be better to change the chain anyway, given that she might have been given a rough ride as a result of the very Religious (Holy) Piston No. 3?
Keep ‘em comin’
JCHK
The chain is in really good condition and I can’t see the point in replacing it’s just for the sake of it. Mans having a painful enough month as it is 👍
My mate had a similar thing with a diesel mondeo years ago, burnt no.3 piston, turned out it was caused by a weeping injector, dripping whilst the engine was off. Could this be caused by something similar....?
We recon it’s an injector failing to shot off correctly on this one 👍
Could well be Al, Ford injectors havent been great for years now. And not getting any better, don't get me started on their bloody wet belts either, they're an even worse idea.
I'll stick to my 1995 Mitzi Pajero 4m40, 146k, still on its original injectors, never fails to start on the button, even in minus 12'c. Old motors are so much more reliable
Is this the same engine they used in the Mark 7 transit? 2.2 turbodiesel? Or is this a different one?
Sweating a bit coz I just bought one and can not afford to have this happen to me.
Same basic engine 👍
@@6DDIESELSDorset ah balls.... just hope for the best then 👍👍
As I said in the last video my mate replaced 2 and 3 with 1 and 4 from another feked 2.2. Unbelievable how sh1t that engine is. He got told its usually one of the middle 2 that go. Don't seem to matter if driven gentle or wragged. You can do two DI engines in the time to fix it.
Would a preventative soloution be to get the injectors out and serviced at say 60k miles?
We have just done this to a 2018 ranger with the same engine, I’ll let you know what happens 👍
Hi my friend...could you get the test chart for the injectors from the injector shop...
These injectors live at the bottom of the test plan and I think that is the reason for the engine not living long! Hope this helps
Interested what you think about the new ducted injectors from Sandia Labs, will they save diesel engines?
Awesome thanks for your efforts
Great informative video, although could we have the old music back it feels weird watching without that in the background. Looking forward to seeing you work on that XM.
Old tune was the business
Emission control systems have made engines overly complex, the only real winners are the manufacturers. I feel sorry for the guy this happened to, do the right thing and you get screwed.
Am I right in thinking they put these engines in land rovers ? Is it an injector problem or weak pistons/oil pumps ?
Yes in a range or JLR stuff and Peugeot too . I’d of said it’s a casting quality on this particular one 👍
We have a 2014 Transit 460 minibus with the 155bhp 2.2 Puma engine, 25k miles! What should we do to prevent this? Good idea to get 4 new injectors? Have a specialist test the injectors? Thanks for a great video.
Its one of those really , wouldn’t hurt to have them checked they are easy enough to remove 👍
Hi, where are you based? I have the same problem with mine, piston, compression on piston 1 possible injector or turbo as it revved up on its own.
Hi Al, just found you and loving the channel. What happened to vid No 3 on the 2.2 transit engine, rebuild and refit? Thanks, Paul.
We are just on it now, don’t worry it’s coming 👍
Cylinder 3 cracked look close .... 👍🏻.
Never mind u found it lol
Is there a reason. Why number 3 piston is most likely to fail cause recirculated crap first point of entry hot point stress or injector problem. Still. Its not a good advert for reliability
Was wondering ,what would have caused the burning hole nastiness?
Over fueling needs remap replacing all injectors and pistons gives you another 30.000 miles then bang again then take it out on the mechanic blame him
The cost in your labour time and parts in doing this job in to days costs £1000?
Last recon engine with fitting and some overhauled injectors came to around 5k so this is the cheaper and in my view better option. I recon we’ll be out of it around 2 ish and know exactly what we’ve got engine wise if that makes any sense 👍
@@6DDIESELSDorset I’d say a 2 year lease on a new one and kiss it good bye with say 40k on it is a better idea unless you can stomach £2000 for a rebuild and a loss ofvt(e van for 3 weeks so hire one l
I’d say there’s a school of thought a 25 year old minter with a proper engine is a better idea as a stand by
Yep I couldn’t agree more, it’s about the only way to run some of this modern stuff !! 👍
Fair play Al those engines are really crap! They just don't make quality anymore 🤔
Back in the 1960’s Ford built a 10 year life cycle into their vehicles by choice. Why make them last forever as then nobody would buy new vehicles. Just look around when you are driving, you don’t see many Fords over 10 years old on the road these days because they are “life expired”.
Go back to the 1970’s and five year old cars were literally falling apart.
Is that due to the van doing lots of regens?
No just poor build quality really 👍
Hi all looking for some help/ advice I have limp mode and engine service now lights only comes on only when driving on motorway, I have installed refurbished turbo myself, had a local garage install brand new genuine Ford ECU and still having same issue when on motorway only garage now want to install a genuine Ford turbo at £1000 is there anything else I can check/ clean first as it drives fine on normal roads codes are P0299 and P2563. 2.2 RWD minibus 2015
Blocked dpf ? I’ll look up the codes when I get five 👍
Gd afternoon mate how long have u been fixing mercs
To many years to count 👍
I'm pleased that I've subscribed to your channel mate really interesting and u explain everything in detail keep the vlogs coming
Enjoyed that buddy 👍🏻 Wouldn’t you change all 4 pistons 🤔
Na other 3 are fine 👍
Will you be taking this for a remap, apparently there's an ecu fault that causes the overfuelling rather than an injector fault... But also the injectors are poo too!!
you think it was bad desiel ?
No normally a duff injector 👍
Modern/new vehicles just not made like the old ones! Shame on Ford for producing such rubbish. My old LT35 sailed through 230K before I sold it. Engine was sweet as a nut.
If you think this mk8 engine is shite then guess what ? the later ecoblue engines are even worse they use a wet timing belt that strips its teeth around the 60k mark as well as headgasket issues egr cooler issues .
60k that’s generous my boss van done the belt at 37k 😂
EGR/ AD BLUE / COMMON RAIL INJECTION . Hasstle trouble 80.000 mile goes BANG on diesel joke .
From of what I heard off the melting pistons is caused by over fueling you need to get remap done before drive it we had 3 blown up all under 70 .000 miles but non since however it's early days but the mileage is going up and repairs is down PS Don't get the ford remap it's the same as you have (Transit customer 30 years )
The injectors caused this failure. New piston, New injectors needed
@@manucorral6284 ok everyone is right to there own opinion hope it worked for you
Something gone wrong....
Bad injector from Delphi
Can I buy a 6DDIESELS hoody ? new one not your lol
I’m sure I can sort it , need to order some new ones in 👍
anothere tdci disaster area
Very unreliable engines
Shite is the word your looking for .