Also yes I am playing Digital Devil Saga so no need to tell me about it, really enjoying it so far. I tried to not compare this game to later titles in the series for the people new to SMT in general
I played DDS for a bit - I found the encounter rate to be absolutely excessive, even compared to Nocturne. Atlus just can't seem to get the balance quite right.
The Demi-Fiend is my favorite SMT Protag. Also Buns there is a very consistent way to avoid battles. It's called estoma. There's a merchant in Amala that sells a demon with all the avoidance spells.
I'm so glade you're playing the DDS series. They were my first two SMT games to get me into the franchise. I hope you enjoy them as much as I did, especially DDS2.
i saw one guy doing a let's play on hard and he grinded so absurdly much he was taking down bosses and enemies in fewer hit than i was on normal. he was like 15 levels higher than me most of the game. i told him that eliminates the point of even playing on hard if you grind until it's easier than normal.
@@Jack_80 i mean if u like being REALLY frustrated. Im not spending 3 hours on a boss or level when i can overgrind and get thru the game alot easier. And hard modes are usually super brutal. For me, i grind just enough to where at least im just a lil bit stronger than enemies. So instead of 3 hours, maybe 30 min or hour on a hard part.
@@TheBrutalSax At least he's weak to Shock. Nothing more satisfying than pummeling him senseless over and over until your press turns run out after a lucky Shock.
@@mintcey voice acting tends to ruin remakes/remasters/sequels I find. Ff7 remake, Kingdom hearts 3 and many others. KH 3 was tedious compared to previous games due to having everything voice acted. This game does not need any voices
You can fight angels, demons, skeletons, fairies,... You can punch the freaking sun You can choose the fate of the world You can become demon's ultimate general You can go to kill the True GOD ... Also featuring Dante from Devil May Cry
Dokie Wokie you can also die in the tutorial level because this game is totally unfair. There is NO such thing as balance. Sticking to Persona 3 thanks, the only GOOD SMT game.
Dokie Wokie Just as an FYI you can't actually kill God in the SMT games. It's more like you are killing a representation of God and it will inevitably reform. The absolute best you can do in this series is delay God, you cannot stop it.
Yes he is. You can recruit him later on in the game. He gives a coin toss to decide how much you pay him (Either half your money or just 1 piece), but fans of DMC already know exactly how to win that toss. Unfortunately Dante isn't good for post-game content. He doesn't have a "Pierce" skill that allows him to go past resistances. His replacement in the later Japanese version, Raidou, actually does.
Ahaha big difference huh? Ive yet to get to 4 or 5. I have 5 downloaded. I've beaten persona 3 (around 300 hours) and Nocturne( over 200) . Played some digital devil saga too. Nocturne had some TOUGH challenges. Especially the Labyrinth of Amala. I only had one section to finish but fucked it up. I finished the challenge for Masakados tho. Which makes demifiend invincible.
Yea persona is more about the story and its made to be a bit more mainstream. If u want the same level of challenge you should stay with the main series. I'd say strange journey is even harder than nocturne. The 2 first are harder but it's more because of bad design and lack of life quality options u get used to expect when playing newer games. Oh and the world navigation is a mess.
persona 5 was my first game and I struggled with that boss(I have yet to reach mot yet in nocturne) although I am better now then It was two years ago and I am replaying persona 5 so I may not struggle with it like I used to
Kushy Pretend all you want but the game exist. Dante's design in Nocturne is a proof of that. Capcom made DMC2, Hideki Kamiya didn't made DMC2. You got that mix up.
Negotiation has always been the hardest part of these games for me, even in Persona, but I've learned very (very, very) recently in my way through SMT4 that it part of it is knowing when to tell a demon to fuck off. I ended up getting a Wicker Man in my party because he was asking for too much so I told him I was done and he was impressed then was like "But I'll be a traitor to other demons" and my response was "Yeah, and?" and that's how I got a Wicker Man which I don't even use.
I just started and right now, I just give the demons what they want lol. Most of them ask for a lot of macca and life stones which are very easy to farm.
@@obseed3041 In my experience it's usually the demons like Angels, Succubus, and Liliths that will ask you for everything then just take off for no reason. At least in SMT3. Early game it's kind of annoying since them asking for Macca and healing items really stacks up after a while. If they run off with my stuff I usually end up killing every one of that particular demon I come across until I recoup the cost.
The lesson I learned from every other smt game is just ‘pick the option that I think sounds the worst’ because my ability to gauge what any given demon wants to hear is just that bad. This was extra true in smt 4.
Abraham Pancake Mash IV is absolutely better for newcomers but its quality of life/graphics may spoil new players from playing the other older SMT games (Digital Devil Saga, Raidou, etc.). Hopefully not though because they're all great games that deserve to be played. I went from Persona 3/4 to Nocturne, so it wasn't too much of an adjustment for me. Nocturne is a black sheep but a lot of the series' usual gameplay elements are found in it. Alignments, demon fusion, demon negotiation, needing buffs to win, all that stuff. You can't go wrong with IV either. The fact that Nocturne doesn't teach anything makes this one go either way.
This is a great review, you really went so much depth. *"This game is not for everyone, and that's okay"* *"... niche games exist to keep ideas fresh and try weird things"* Thank you for pointing this out. This is one thing people and studios should realise. Also, I didn't knew you had dyslexia. So you giving such a well thought out review of such a massive game really shows how passionate you are for the game. Persona 3's design is basically simplified Wizardry in 3rd person. You should really read about Wizardry, that game series indirectly lead to the birth of JRPGs. Since you started playing SMT Digital Saga, I'll just point out that there are a ton of Hindu/Buddhist religious references, that you may not get (I'm a Hindu and was really surprised by it, because almost no game utilises that). So read up on them, they are fascinating.
Hemang Chauhan How does her having dyslexia show she is passionate about the game? People with dyslexia are just as able to write reviews as anyone else.
Alex Noa He probably means that she rarely has typo’s if ever, and messes things up since it’s difficult for her to read compared to people without dyslexia. At least I think that’s what they mean?
@@somaoni8806 yes! I going through a lot of assignments in my communication course, and writing out a well thought out piece that is more that 5000 words long while also trying to stay cohesive is damn hard. And doing this after every video..., I can't imagine how much concentration and energy is required for that. buns is just great.
Fun Fact: Atlus was collab with Dante's redesign for Devil May Cry 3, that's why he's in Nocturne. Playing both games will show design connections and awesomeness.
Kazuma Kaneko was the link, he designed the devil triggers for dante and nero and some other stuff In return dante made a cameo on SMT 3 I'll never understand why DMC 2 dante's model was used tho
@@shis1988 the first was amazing to begin with. What bullshit are you referring to? Yes the second is harder, but the quality of life is better. Plus Co-op let's u bring 2 ppl now.
Totally agree with you on art style over graphics. I've heard a lot of people say they can't get into a game because the graphics are terrible which saddens me. There are a ton of great games that have awesome fun gameplay or have a great story but because it doesn't have new cutting edge super charged high end graphics its not worth playing which is just silly and to those people who think this way you're are missing out big time.
many people are obsessed and even brainwashed by numbers in games these days. i can still play and love the visual style of many ps1 and even snes games but i couldn't stand looking at ff15 because it look so bland and boring to me. most people certainly feel the exact opposite just because ff15 has a much higher polygon count and resolution.
I prefer art style more than polygon count. Persona 2 is one of my favorite games and it doesn't even have 3D models. The combat system is good enough compared to P3/4/5, has arguably the best story in the series, amazing characters and an awesome soundtrack. But people won't play it because they need a PSP or Vita(which is pretty cheap nowadays) and they don't want to look at pixel art.
Art style is what makes graphics great. A gritty, realistic style looks terrible 100% of the time. Something more cartoony, like Ratchet & Clank, can stand the test of time.
I was lucky enough to buy “Nocturne” when it first came out and thanks to it I fell in love with the Shin Megami Tensei series! “Nocturne” is such an amazing game! Difficult as crap at times but soooo much fun! And such a good soundtrack! I would love to see Nocturne get a PSN release on PS4 or a remaster.
genius2012 I loved it. One of my favorites . Very hardcore stuff . By the way , the only Secret Boss I had never beat it . Was the Protagonist of SMT : Nocturne . Which was the secret in Digital Devil Saga2 if I’m not mistaken. That Pixie almost make me break a controller.
Maria Rodriguez I never beat Demi Fiend (SMT: Nocturne) in Digital Devil Saga either! And no matter how many times I’ve played Nocturne, and how good I’ve become at SMT games, the Matador fight in Nocturne can go either way depending on the RNG!
Super Butter Buns: This game isn't talked about much anymore it's a real shame it deserves to be known as a PS2 classic Atlus Today: Shin Megami Tensei 3: Nocturne HD remaster coming spring 2021 to Nintendo switch and PS4 Sorry just had to say this lol
Well yeah, this video was made 2 years ago. Atlus kinda forgot SMT exists and focused on persona for a good while, in the direct mini they announced the remaster and gave SMT V a release date. Before the direct they didn't talk about SMT at all they just said that the game isn't cancelled. In conclusion: indeed the game wasn't talked about much.
All I was expecting was Dante to be a cool side character that inevitably joins your party. What I didn’t expect was for him and a skeleton monk to body the shit out of me. This made me feel like, either, the most depressed, or the most proud when fighting enemies. I never expected a boss to charm my healer into healing it to full health (damn you, Samael). The soundtrack either drew me instantly in, grew on me, or I’m not a fan of. Still arguably my favorite PS2 game, next to Silent Hill 2, Shin Contra, or Kingdom Hearts.
Loving the part when you say People call Nocturne the Dark Souls of JRPG's but it's inacurate since Nocturne was released first. That was sooooooooooooooooooo good to hear XD;
7:55 "Two cult members, three students, and a journalist all walk into a deserted hospital... and conveniently the cult members summoned the apocalypse!" HAHAHA... Wait that's the most downer punchline I've ever heard.
Fabshooter4 “time em out, y’all are mods time em our right now.” Sorry buns it’s a lil funny, and also true, those kind of things happen to me too all the time lol. I don’t have good luck with those kind of dungeons
It's great to see you finally managed to tackle this game, I know you'd been at it for a while, and the video came out great! While I personally don't think I'll ever be able to get into the more serious SMT game it's very nice to hear your thoughts and see that transition from the older stuff to the newer SMT games. Great work, Buns, you did a excellent job!
I can't speak for Xander, but one of the reasons I never did was because 1) I was never a PlayStation kid, so I didn't get access to a lot of those games, and B) I got tired of hearing from some of my high school acquaintances about the game in terms of spoilers and their SMT elitism nonsense. It's why I waited almost a decade to purge those thoughts and give anything from the series and it's spin offs a chance.
richard killface Thanks for making a lot of assumptions, putting a wall of text into my mouth, and not paying attention to a third of my comment. Since you missed it the first time, I'll make things a bit more clear. In the past, I avoided games, because they cared not for ears of the unspoiled, and constantly made assumptions that I wouldn't get it or never finish the games because they're over my head, which was all in the past. Now that I don't remember any of the plot details from any of the games, I was able to play and finish the two Persona games that came out around that time, and have played more since. I'm also looking into Digital Devil Saga and the Nocturne as well. Less about control by them, so much as me wanting to play on my terms, completely fresh and new. As for the games you mentioned, I've played the first two Souls games and loved them, played the first two of KH, and said, "Fuck it!" when the games I needed to play were on so many systems, and was too much of a commitment to play for something I was lukewarm on. I like Nintendo system games in general, and play the occasional fighting game. Point is that I enjoy the games that I do and anything else I consume because I want. It's just that sometimes a lot of effort is need to make the experience my own. My question to you: What exactly was the point of your comment, if you were so utterly and completely wrong?
@@lastbastion3333 I wish they would do that for SMT and Persona, but probably doesn't have that wide appeal that Kingdom Hearts does. I know P5 did well, so maybe it'll happen someday
I freaking love your reviews, they are funny, catchy, I didn't saw those 30 minutes... If I may say, your voice has a thing ! I love it ! Hoping for more smt reviews, maybe retro ones (smt 2 pls) and even strange journey redux (when it'Il come out) and smt IV. I may be too demanding but... aah nevermind, I waaaant more smt videos by you
*SPOILERS:* Everyone goes bananas, then you fight the God of Disco Balls, also you can go on a trip to RPG Hell and the Devil thinks you're a swell guy if you do so.
I've been on the fence about buying SMT Nocturne for a while now but your video convinced me to finally give in and buy it. I've never played an SMT game before and have only been a Persona "casual" as the elitists like to say. This mind set that some people have about SMT and Persona has honestly kept me from trying any since the community is snobby about it but seeing someone actually talk about an SMT game without the elitist undertones was a breath of fresh air!
To be fair, the persona fanbase usually is even more obnoxious than the SMT one, and the heavy emphasis on its dating/high school life simulator mode alienated more traditional megaten fans
man im glad i haven't interacted with the rabid fanbase much. I enjoy and dislike games from both the persona and smt series, and i don't see the need to divide the fans.
I love how buns says reading is hard I know because she literally knows 😂 I don't like SMT but if it's from buns I watch, her content is the best keep up the good work
I’m rewatching after the HD Remaster dropped. I got my own copy and I love the voice acting. It helped me connect to the characters and the events of the game more. Text on a screen only did so much for me.
Yesterday, after 155 hours (more or less) of play time, special fusions, grinding, and stupid mistakes that resulted in rage-inducing game overs, I completed Nocturne. I got the True Demon Ending. As much as I do not want to spoil anything, do yourself a favor and make sure you have plenty of dis-binds (or sacred waters), excellent healing skills, and debilitate. And if possible, recruit Dante. He is one of the first demons you can get with decent Almighty skills and can hit like a train if speced right. All in all, this was my first ever SMT game and despite the hair pulling frustration (and the slight back seat playing from my bf who owes the game) I had a fun ass time~ When I unlocked the True Demon Ending, I was on such a high, that I could barely calm down. This game will punish you...but when you conquer it, theres no better feeling~
Great video! I love it when people talk about this game and this series. Demon: Hey, do you have Life Stone? Demi-Fiend: Yeah, here you go. Demon: Thanks man! Here's a Life Stone for your trouble.
2020 HD Remaster (Steam, Switch and PS4/5) is adding some stuff, Voice Acting, special dungeons for fast leveling and earn big money fast. Choosing abilities manualy before fusing the demons, that makes the game less frustrating :P
How SMT fans think of themselves: We can be a little snobbish sometimes sure, but there's so much to love about about the franchise! Free will vs order, subverting traditional viewpoints of good vs evil, the character/demon designs etc... How non-SMT fans think of them: *OOOHHH YEAH NOCTURNE, STEP ON MY FACE! PUNISH YOUR LITTLE DEMI-FIEND WHIPPING BOY!! PROVE THAT MATADOR WILL ONCE AGAIN BE VICTORIOUS!!!* Awesome video Buns 😎.
5:39 Vague explanations hit me bad. Despite hearing from Demons how important recruiting was, I didn't recruit anyone but Pixie until after I ended up in the place to fuse for the first time, at which point I realized the game wasn't making me level up before giving the talk option, and actually looked it up. PRESS LEFT AND RIGHT ON THE D PAD TO GET NON-ATTACK OPTIONS. This includes both the Talk option, but also how to use items in battle and escape. THIS FRUSTRATED ME SO MUCH. I don't know how the game expected you to figure it out, since pressing random buttons on your controller could trigger auto-attack which is NOT good when you're like level 1, but yeah. The more you know.
I wonder if peeps will still call Nintendo "super family friendly" with Bayo 1&2 being ported to the switch (with 3 on it's way), Dark souls making it's way to the switch and the next SMT game coming out soon (as the follow up to the games that made a home on the 3DS). Fun fact: when Platinum were designing the Nintendo costumes for Bayo they wanted to "cover up" more (to keep things cool with Nintendo) however it was Nintendo idea to reveal "more" in the end especially with the Link costume ;-).
tbh, (S)MT ~started~ on Nintendo platform. SMT IV being on 3DS (also, don't forget Devil Survivor or Strange Journey, all DS exclusives) is equivalent to returning to the old way. Also, there are a slew of pretty violent games on both Fami and SuFami. Nintendo of Japan is pretty metal. Family friendly aesthetic was heavily pushed by NoA in particular.
Nintendo is and have always been pushing for a baby friendly approach, see how almost all its first party IP are colorful and child friendly. It is the third party game makers the ones that have historically pushed for more freedom until nintendo had to to simply accept to get more lax with censorship to not lose third party support to other emerging consoles.
Dianne Renard oh, I disagree with Nintendo always trying to be kid/family friendly. Look at the Earthbound/Mother series. That shit is dark as fuck. And the Metroid series. And a few of the Zelda entries, specifically Majora's Mask and Twilight Princess. Fire Emblem is a pretty dark/mature series as well. Hell, two bosses from the Kirby series cry blood. There are Kirby bosses that literally cry blood. LITERALLY CRYING BLOOD. *CRYING. BLOOD. FUCKING KIRBY OF ALL GAMES.* Oh, and the final boss of Earthbound resembles a fetus and was influenced by a false rape scene a child watched, but yes, we love family friendly Nintendo™
Abraham Pancake Mash Hence why i said it is up to third party developers to spice up things. Nintendo on its own barely has anything that wouldn't be all ages, as your few examples show and even things like fire emblem does their best to avoid showing bad things and merely make implications and off handed mentions of bad things having happened, being a mostly kiddified view of a bloody war. Metroid is the only ip somewhat mature it has as some of their entries had legit oppressing atmospheres and once a while creepy monster designs
I played it when i was 12, then later on in my life. To me it was a more interesting experience than FFX. This game will be my favorite i think, i still have it even tho i don't have a ps2 anymore. The other spin off you mentioned are also good (devil summoner raidou is really different and more story driven).
As a PAL gamer, booting up the digital copy of Lucifers Call off the PlayStation Store and seeing both NTSC 60hz support in a niche PS2 game followed by the fucking Ubisoft logo made me nearly yeet my PS3 across the room in sheer confusion
I know this is kinda late, but since you like to have voice acting in games, the SMT 3 Nocturne Remaster coming next year will have voice acting, so that's amazing!
High five for auditory processing disorder! Thanks for this video, I played it years ago and got stuck so I haven't played it since. But since you've made this awesome video, I'll pick it up again one of these days!
I'm watching this again, now that it's coming to the Switch. And I'm thinking about getting it as my first SMT game (haven't played Persona as well...yet).
Persona 5 and World of Final Fantasy really made me pay attention to my character stats, and any buffs that I could get. Seriously, when the enemies go up like 30 levels that's when you spend 2 hours carefully customizing you characters...and then die 200 times
Last semester a group of my close friends and I played this game and democratically picked where the game went plot wise due to our philosophical opinions. We didn’t beat the game, dunno if we ever will, but boy was it fun. Especially since we all had different approaches to things, the bosses were easier than anything else in the game. We beat the Matador on the second try when it was supposed to be a pattern recognition exercise. Such an enjoyable and different game.
8:20 spoiler (?) I wouldn't say that the things that happen 20 minutes on, as you say, are spoilers, but calling the kid Lucifer may be in my opinion. This was my first SMT game but I remember not getting the fact that he was Lucifer until pretty late
I picked this up on my switch thanks for your honest review of it. Love the persona series so figured I would give these a shot since V is coming soon-ish
With Persona 5 being my first SMT game, it's amazing to see how many of the personas/demons have persisted throughout the series and how faithful they are in Persona 5 compared to their earlier-day counterparts.
the random encounters are literally the main reason why i loved asakusa so much, because there was almost NONE, it really felt like a lovely home to me, and that's why it actually hurt me what happened with it at the end...
The Demi-Fiend is my favorite SMT Protag. Also Buns there is a very consistent way to avoid battles. It's called estoma. There's a merchant in Amala that sells a demon with all the avoidance spells.
sooooooooooooo Wanna talk about the game's PC port and changes? Like the Journalist difficulty setting they included (see Narlys video on that one) And Voice Acting
I seriously think you have power of influence and developers are listening to you. Nearly every game you've remembered has gotten a remaster and generated positive views for fans to request developers for remasters. So thank you anyway!
Oh, I gave it a shot all right. HD remaster came out, swore to my bud I would get it when it went on-sale. It did... and fell in love with it. First playthrough I just made the demifiend unga-bunga with some stat debuffs and made demons that complemented. When I realized just how many different ways you can play it, it became a theorycraft addiction. Seemed to be a trend for a lot of games from around that time, but, man, my free time hates it.
If you're big on JRPG combat and relatively low story-density, be sure to check out Cosmic Star Heroine, which addresses your comments about encounters and grinding near exactly. Visible encounters, and grinding is mostly impossible because the encounters don't respawn, so the difficulty setting is all about how adept you want to get with its unique combat mechanics. Nice, detailed video. I think you strike a good balance between having an opinion, providing rationale, and acknowledging other opinions. ("If you like X, you will/won't like Y." Very helpful.)
Also yes I am playing Digital Devil Saga so no need to tell me about it, really enjoying it so far. I tried to not compare this game to later titles in the series for the people new to SMT in general
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I played DDS for a bit - I found the encounter rate to be absolutely excessive, even compared to Nocturne.
Atlus just can't seem to get the balance quite right.
SuperButterBuns dds2 is a pretty good improvement over dds. hope you enjoy it.
PS: dds2 has some of the best music meguro has done
The Demi-Fiend is my favorite SMT Protag.
Also Buns there is a very consistent way to avoid battles. It's called estoma. There's a merchant in Amala that sells a demon with all the avoidance spells.
I'm so glade you're playing the DDS series. They were my first two SMT games to get me into the franchise. I hope you enjoy them as much as I did, especially DDS2.
Nocturne's Hard Mode has the best description ever in a video game.
"A level of difficulty suitable for those seeking the thrill of death."
It's pretty accurate.
You will spend more than half your playthrough time dying.
i saw one guy doing a let's play on hard and he grinded so absurdly much he was taking down bosses and enemies in fewer hit than i was on normal. he was like 15 levels higher than me most of the game. i told him that eliminates the point of even playing on hard if you grind until it's easier than normal.
@@Jack_80 i mean if u like being REALLY frustrated. Im not spending 3 hours on a boss or level when i can overgrind and get thru the game alot easier. And hard modes are usually super brutal.
For me, i grind just enough to where at least im just a lil bit stronger than enemies. So instead of 3 hours, maybe 30 min or hour on a hard part.
@@GramoChopin and then you mess up and lose all of your progress
"Every rule you are bound to, the enemy is as well"
*Laughs in Mot's Beast Eye*
"Your rules are not my rules"
Mot: “Fuck yo rules!”
@@TheBrutalSax At least he's weak to Shock. Nothing more satisfying than pummeling him senseless over and over until your press turns run out after a lucky Shock.
you're still bound by the same rules.
just, you don't get access to beast/dragon eye. or that 1hp black sun move, or a dozen other things.
Nothing like certain boss enemies blocking all target almighty attacks from their own allies
looks like this video will get an influx of views either right now or come spring 2021
And the game is getting voice acting! So no more need to worry buns.
Do I get bonus points for watching this before and coming back to it after the direct?
@@mintcey voice acting tends to ruin remakes/remasters/sequels I find. Ff7 remake, Kingdom hearts 3 and many others. KH 3 was tedious compared to previous games due to having everything voice acted. This game does not need any voices
Lee Watkins They never had voices to begin with so I just want to hear what they sound like, besides, doesn't stop you from skipping the dialogue.
Honestly not sure if I want to go through this again. I already beat Lucifer once and it sounds like a lot of work to do again.
Friends don’t let friends fight Matador without Sukukaja.
Exactly
Dekaja works too
I beat him without it..I mean I died once and killed him the second time without both dekaja or sukukaja
I beat him with only sukunda
swag
And sukunda and dekaja stones
You can fight angels, demons, skeletons, fairies,...
You can punch the freaking sun
You can choose the fate of the world
You can become demon's ultimate general
You can go to kill the True GOD
... Also featuring Dante from Devil May Cry
wait is dante rly in it? i'd play it just for that!
Dokie Wokie you can also die in the tutorial level because this game is totally unfair. There is NO such thing as balance. Sticking to Persona 3 thanks, the only GOOD SMT game.
Dokie Wokie
Just as an FYI you can't actually kill God in the SMT games. It's more like you are killing a representation of God and it will inevitably reform. The absolute best you can do in this series is delay God, you cannot stop it.
Sam Fisher
I only have played P5 but its pretty good too. Its a bit to easy but a ton of fun.
Yes he is. You can recruit him later on in the game. He gives a coin toss to decide how much you pay him (Either half your money or just 1 piece), but fans of DMC already know exactly how to win that toss.
Unfortunately Dante isn't good for post-game content. He doesn't have a "Pierce" skill that allows him to go past resistances. His replacement in the later Japanese version, Raidou, actually does.
"A tiny thing I wish Nocturne had strictly out of personal preference is voice acting." Whelp, I think Atlus heard you Butters with the remake.
I know I'm so thankful I get to enjoy it with va for my first playthrough 🥰
I've been wating for this
Go back to Persona 3 Akihiko, you are drunk.
he said it; he said the thing
Did you see that shinji
@@jackietf2 shinji dies*
Di you see that shij- oh
@@reisushi3459 he saw it coming tho
I played Persona 5 after Nocturne, I froze when I got to the Mot mini boss. Then realized it was a piece of cake compared to nocturne.
Ahaha big difference huh? Ive yet to get to 4 or 5. I have 5 downloaded. I've beaten persona 3 (around 300 hours) and Nocturne( over 200) .
Played some digital devil saga too.
Nocturne had some TOUGH challenges. Especially the Labyrinth of Amala. I only had one section to finish but fucked it up. I finished the challenge for Masakados tho. Which makes demifiend invincible.
Yea persona is more about the story and its made to be a bit more mainstream. If u want the same level of challenge you should stay with the main series. I'd say strange journey is even harder than nocturne. The 2 first are harder but it's more because of bad design and lack of life quality options u get used to expect when playing newer games. Oh and the world navigation is a mess.
Yeah, the last time the Persona series was difficult was in 2006
persona 5 was my first game and I struggled with that boss(I have yet to reach mot yet in nocturne) although I am better now then It was two years ago and I am replaying persona 5 so I may not struggle with it like I used to
Giant Dad So i am back and recently i’ve been replaying persona 5 (original not royale) on mercieless mode and mot is super easy now
Devil may cry timeline for those of you interested
Devil may cry 3
Devil may cry 1
Devil may cry anime
SMT nocturne
Devil may cry 4
Except Dante in Nocturne is Dante from DMC2 at the end where he went to Hell.
Kushy Pretend all you want but the game exist. Dante's design in Nocturne is a proof of that.
Capcom made DMC2, Hideki Kamiya didn't made DMC2. You got that mix up.
feyzal92 the fuck is a devil may cry 2
Regardless, it would be after DMC4, and Nocturne after "that game"
-and hey at least it isn't the reboot-
FranK, just watch gameplay and you'll see
Negotiation has always been the hardest part of these games for me, even in Persona, but I've learned very (very, very) recently in my way through SMT4 that it part of it is knowing when to tell a demon to fuck off. I ended up getting a Wicker Man in my party because he was asking for too much so I told him I was done and he was impressed then was like "But I'll be a traitor to other demons" and my response was "Yeah, and?" and that's how I got a Wicker Man which I don't even use.
I just started and right now, I just give the demons what they want lol. Most of them ask for a lot of macca and life stones which are very easy to farm.
@@obseed3041 In my experience it's usually the demons like Angels, Succubus, and Liliths that will ask you for everything then just take off for no reason. At least in SMT3. Early game it's kind of annoying since them asking for Macca and healing items really stacks up after a while. If they run off with my stuff I usually end up killing every one of that particular demon I come across until I recoup the cost.
The lesson I learned from every other smt game is just ‘pick the option that I think sounds the worst’ because my ability to gauge what any given demon wants to hear is just that bad. This was extra true in smt 4.
Nocturne HD: *releases*
Game Journalists: It's like Dark Souls of Persona games.
I can hear them already
SMT IV and Apocalypse: First time?
Well nocturne come on 2003 and dark souls maybe 2010? So dark souls was rpg nocturne
@@fluxthemagician7928 But Nocturne is already an RPG
@@Skallva yes
This should be everyone's first real Shin Megoomy Tensay game
Mine was DemiKids (which is technically and SMT game) But I was like...10 when I played it. Then I moved on to Digital Devil Saga when I got older lol
The most recommended smt games will be smt 4 or smt 3, so you kinda right.
IV is better for newcomers, imo
Shuffle Time my first games in this world was 4 and soul hackers
Abraham Pancake Mash IV is absolutely better for newcomers but its quality of life/graphics may spoil new players from playing the other older SMT games (Digital Devil Saga, Raidou, etc.). Hopefully not though because they're all great games that deserve to be played.
I went from Persona 3/4 to Nocturne, so it wasn't too much of an adjustment for me.
Nocturne is a black sheep but a lot of the series' usual gameplay elements are found in it. Alignments, demon fusion, demon negotiation, needing buffs to win, all that stuff.
You can't go wrong with IV either. The fact that Nocturne doesn't teach anything makes this one go either way.
Bread mom has blessed us with a new video on this fine morning
Mattie Brennan Bread 🍞 mom I love it
7:45 "S.M.T's lore is older than me at this point"
It's... it's going to be older than you at every point tho...
Not necessarily. If they reboot it, it would be younger than her.
@@michaelbesser5348
Well... About that...
@@Frodudus
I heard it's stuck in "development-hell"
@@Frodudus Isn't the New Testament basically a reboot of the Old Testament?
@@Heli-draws Oh yeah....I wonder why God's personality's been reworked - from flooding the whole world to just being chill
This is a great review, you really went so much depth.
*"This game is not for everyone, and that's okay"*
*"... niche games exist to keep ideas fresh and try weird things"*
Thank you for pointing this out. This is one thing people and studios should realise.
Also, I didn't knew you had dyslexia. So you giving such a well thought out review of such a massive game really shows how passionate you are for the game.
Persona 3's design is basically simplified Wizardry in 3rd person.
You should really read about Wizardry, that game series indirectly lead to the birth of JRPGs.
Since you started playing SMT Digital Saga, I'll just point out that there are a ton of Hindu/Buddhist religious references, that you may not get (I'm a Hindu and was really surprised by it, because almost no game utilises that). So read up on them, they are fascinating.
Hemang Chauhan
How does her having dyslexia show she is passionate about the game? People with dyslexia are just as able to write reviews as anyone else.
Don’t tell her what to do
Alex Noa He probably means that she rarely has typo’s if ever, and messes things up since it’s difficult for her to read compared to people without dyslexia.
At least I think that’s what they mean?
@@somaoni8806 yes! I going through a lot of assignments in my communication course, and writing out a well thought out piece that is more that 5000 words long while also trying to stay cohesive is damn hard.
And doing this after every video..., I can't imagine how much concentration and energy is required for that. buns is just great.
@DevilBuster Kaz Yes. Original SMT on SNES and MT on NES are very much like console Wizardry version.
*Featuring buns from the superbutterbuns series*
Fun Fact: Atlus was collab with Dante's redesign for Devil May Cry 3, that's why he's in Nocturne. Playing both games will show design connections and awesomeness.
kaneko also designed both devil trigger forms for Dante and Vergil
Kazuma Kaneko was the link, he designed the devil triggers for dante and nero and some other stuff
In return dante made a cameo on SMT 3
I'll never understand why DMC 2 dante's model was used tho
@@nnk_ll2 Because DMC3 came out a year after the version of Nocturne that has Dante in it. DMC2 was the latest game at the time.
Nocturne in a nutshell :
*I see your might and it compares to something...*
*That is if something is nothing*
@@nnk_ll2 DMC 2 Dante looks really cool anyway, so I'm fine with it.
This video was so good, you could say...
It was the best thing since sliced bread.
Lol bread 🍞
Axemmela Gamechef You could also say it was... Fun on the bun
This makes me want to burn my bread.
Woomy YESSS
@@ThatOneLegendEmerald
Does it make you want to mass destruct, though?
A good hard mode is hard to get by, good hard modes require good careful game design too you know.
Well said, my friend.
Speaking of, is Nioh 2 less bullshit?
Yeah. It was well prepared in this game tho
@@shis1988 the first was amazing to begin with. What bullshit are you referring to? Yes the second is harder, but the quality of life is better. Plus Co-op let's u bring 2 ppl now.
Havin a great time with it but...
*COUGH MOT COUGH*
Totally agree with you on art style over graphics. I've heard a lot of people say they can't get into a game because the graphics are terrible which saddens me.
There are a ton of great games that have awesome fun gameplay or have a great story but because it doesn't have new cutting edge super charged high end graphics its not worth playing which is just silly and to those people who think this way you're are missing out big time.
I mean I can't blame them. If a game hurts my eyes looking at it, i ain't playing it.
many people are obsessed and even brainwashed by numbers in games these days. i can still play and love the visual style of many ps1 and even snes games but i couldn't stand looking at ff15 because it look so bland and boring to me. most people certainly feel the exact opposite just because ff15 has a much higher polygon count and resolution.
I prefer art style more than polygon count. Persona 2 is one of my favorite games and it doesn't even have 3D models. The combat system is good enough compared to P3/4/5, has arguably the best story in the series, amazing characters and an awesome soundtrack. But people won't play it because they need a PSP or Vita(which is pretty cheap nowadays) and they don't want to look at pixel art.
Art style is what makes graphics great. A gritty, realistic style looks terrible 100% of the time. Something more cartoony, like Ratchet & Clank, can stand the test of time.
@Hope Bagel they did fuck up p2s gameplay with the PSP Remaster quite a bit
Hot leaf juice?! Better not let Iroh hear you say that.
How could a member of my own family say something so horrible!
He's the Namekian from the cartoon boku no pico right?
@@TheReZisTLust yes. yes he is.
I was lucky enough to buy “Nocturne” when it first came out and thanks to it I fell in love with the Shin Megami Tensei series! “Nocturne” is such an amazing game! Difficult as crap at times but soooo much fun! And such a good soundtrack! I would love to see Nocturne get a PSN release on PS4 or a remaster.
genius2012 I loved it. One of my favorites . Very hardcore stuff .
By the way , the only Secret Boss I had never beat it . Was the Protagonist of SMT : Nocturne . Which was the secret in Digital Devil Saga2 if I’m not mistaken. That Pixie almost make me break a controller.
Maria Rodriguez DIGITAL DEVIL SAGS SPOILERS
Demi is fought in DDS 1, not 2.
Manuel Mateo I wasn’t sure . I played it when it was released for PS2 . Too long ago .
Maria Rodriguez Te entendio.
Maria Rodriguez I never beat Demi Fiend (SMT: Nocturne) in Digital Devil Saga either! And no matter how many times I’ve played Nocturne, and how good I’ve become at SMT games, the Matador fight in Nocturne can go either way depending on the RNG!
"Assuming you aren't using any negotiation abilities like brainwash or kidnap" out of context is amazing.
Super Butter Buns: This game isn't talked about much anymore it's a real shame it deserves to be known as a PS2 classic
Atlus Today: Shin Megami Tensei 3: Nocturne HD remaster coming spring 2021 to Nintendo switch and PS4
Sorry just had to say this lol
Well yeah, this video was made 2 years ago.
Atlus kinda forgot SMT exists and focused on persona for a good while, in the direct mini they announced the remaster and gave SMT V a release date. Before the direct they didn't talk about SMT at all they just said that the game isn't cancelled.
In conclusion: indeed the game wasn't talked about much.
@@Meleven11 yep
Featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry series...
... For 5,99$
@@mqfii8992 ...yes, guest characters always come at a price because of property rights and royalties...
This isn't 2004-05, DMC3 was 15 years ago.
@@mqfii8992 I'm cool with it in this instance cause they gotta pay Capcom to keep Dante in the game, plus pay his voice actor for recording the lines.
Its time for Buns to enter the Frey again, BECAUSE WE GETTING NOCTURNE ON SWITCH IN HD!
ONE MORE GAME REVIEWED
theultimateonejpsx Your mixes are awesome ^^
Thank you, but this review video is much more awesome :D
"anatha one"
This game is now officially getting an HD Remaster. We eating good tonight! :3
Heck yeah. With a huge cake as well & SMTV.
One month left
All I was expecting was Dante to be a cool side character that inevitably joins your party. What I didn’t expect was for him and a skeleton monk to body the shit out of me. This made me feel like, either, the most depressed, or the most proud when fighting enemies. I never expected a boss to charm my healer into healing it to full health (damn you, Samael). The soundtrack either drew me instantly in, grew on me, or I’m not a fan of. Still arguably my favorite PS2 game, next to Silent Hill 2, Shin Contra, or Kingdom Hearts.
Anyone else here after the new smt V trailer from the direct? Honestly thought the day would never come
The voice acting in the remake will be a major plus for buns given her dyslexia.
Perhaps she will do a beginner's guide for it
Hey look
godbless persona 5 money otherwise the smt main franchise would never see the light of day anymore
Can we give it up for bun’s work ethic. She just works so hard to give as quality content consistently. She’s improved so much
Loving the part when you say People call Nocturne the Dark Souls of JRPG's but it's inacurate since Nocturne was released first.
That was sooooooooooooooooooo good to hear XD;
Well. Ds is an jrpg
Darlan Dos Santos Oliveira Junior It’s an ARPG. JRPGs have a lot of numbers, and that’s the exact opposite of what Dark Souls has.
if ya wanna see me get angry at the game just watch this ruclips.net/video/i0GlQvGlfYg/видео.html
Here after they announced the HD Remaster, gonna be relying on your help Buns!
Funny that I'm watching this on the day the HD Remster was announced along with SMT 5
Ah SMT Nocturne, poor little bun, WELCOME TO THE SMT MEAT GRINDER!!!
1TrulyMad One day I was hanging out with anime high schoolers the next I knew that every game in the world is shit.
Spring 2021, HD Remaster on the Switch and PS4, get it ya nerds!
7:55 "Two cult members, three students, and a journalist all walk into a deserted hospital... and conveniently the cult members summoned the apocalypse!"
HAHAHA... Wait that's the most downer punchline I've ever heard.
The best thing about this game is Buns losing it because of doors
THOSE F*** MAZE DUNGEON DOORS THAT MAKE NO F*** SENSE
Fabshooter4
WHO DESIGNED THIS DOORS?
Fabshooter4 IF YOU DONT TELL ME THE RIGHT DOOR ILL BLOCK YOU YOULL ALL BE BANNED
YOU WRONG, YOU BANNED
Fabshooter4 “time em out, y’all are mods time em our right now.” Sorry buns it’s a lil funny, and also true, those kind of things happen to me too all the time lol. I don’t have good luck with those kind of dungeons
But Nocturne does feature a skinny anime boy saving the world with his super pixie waifu and the power of friendship with unholy creatures!
It's great to see you finally managed to tackle this game, I know you'd been at it for a while, and the video came out great! While I personally don't think I'll ever be able to get into the more serious SMT game it's very nice to hear your thoughts and see that transition from the older stuff to the newer SMT games. Great work, Buns, you did a excellent job!
Why do you think you won't be able to get into SMT?
I can't speak for Xander, but one of the reasons I never did was because 1) I was never a PlayStation kid, so I didn't get access to a lot of those games, and B) I got tired of hearing from some of my high school acquaintances about the game in terms of spoilers and their SMT elitism nonsense. It's why I waited almost a decade to purge those thoughts and give anything from the series and it's spin offs a chance.
richard killface Thanks for making a lot of assumptions, putting a wall of text into my mouth, and not paying attention to a third of my comment.
Since you missed it the first time, I'll make things a bit more clear. In the past, I avoided games, because they cared not for ears of the unspoiled, and constantly made assumptions that I wouldn't get it or never finish the games because they're over my head, which was all in the past. Now that I don't remember any of the plot details from any of the games, I was able to play and finish the two Persona games that came out around that time, and have played more since. I'm also looking into Digital Devil Saga and the Nocturne as well. Less about control by them, so much as me wanting to play on my terms, completely fresh and new. As for the games you mentioned, I've played the first two Souls games and loved them, played the first two of KH, and said, "Fuck it!" when the games I needed to play were on so many systems, and was too much of a commitment to play for something I was lukewarm on. I like Nintendo system games in general, and play the occasional fighting game. Point is that I enjoy the games that I do and anything else I consume because I want. It's just that sometimes a lot of effort is need to make the experience my own.
My question to you: What exactly was the point of your comment, if you were so utterly and completely wrong?
@@oblivious8868 just buy 1.5 2.5 remix on ps4 lol. They released all the games for kh on ps4 now
@@lastbastion3333 I wish they would do that for SMT and Persona, but probably doesn't have that wide appeal that Kingdom Hearts does. I know P5 did well, so maybe it'll happen someday
Isamu: “Yo Butter, it’s been a while.” It’s Bun’s name in the dialogue that made me laugh in this vid. Naming protags is always priceless.
I freaking love your reviews, they are funny, catchy, I didn't saw those 30 minutes... If I may say, your voice has a thing ! I love it ! Hoping for more smt reviews, maybe retro ones (smt 2 pls) and even strange journey redux (when it'Il come out) and smt IV. I may be too demanding but... aah nevermind, I waaaant more smt videos by you
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No spoilers? I'm out, I only watch videos if I get explicitly spoiled on content.
*SPOILERS:*
Everyone goes bananas, then you fight the God of Disco Balls, also you can go on a trip to RPG Hell and the Devil thinks you're a swell guy if you do so.
Ritokure funny thing is, you're not wrong.
Not much to spoil tbh, story's pretty sparse on this one o-o
Hello Raven from Teen Titans
The HD remaster that was just announced seems to have voice acting, so your prayers have been answered!
I've been on the fence about buying SMT Nocturne for a while now but your video convinced me to finally give in and buy it. I've never played an SMT game before and have only been a Persona "casual" as the elitists like to say. This mind set that some people have about SMT and Persona has honestly kept me from trying any since the community is snobby about it but seeing someone actually talk about an SMT game without the elitist undertones was a breath of fresh air!
the community really hasn't been elitist in a long time, sure it's an inside joke, but that's about it
I'm glad you haven't seen much of it, but it's still definitely a thing. I see it all the time as a persona fan.
To be fair, the persona fanbase usually is even more obnoxious than the SMT one, and the heavy emphasis on its dating/high school life simulator mode alienated more traditional megaten fans
man im glad i haven't interacted with the rabid fanbase much. I enjoy and dislike games from both the persona and smt series, and i don't see the need to divide the fans.
>I see it all the time as a persona fan.
where?
This game took me into a dark alley and beat me up for my loose change.
10/10 would let Nocturne jump me again.
Who here cause of the Remaster ;) Big hypes!!
I love how buns says reading is hard I know because she literally knows 😂
I don't like SMT but if it's from buns I watch, her content is the best keep up the good work
I’m rewatching after the HD Remaster dropped. I got my own copy and I love the voice acting. It helped me connect to the characters and the events of the game more. Text on a screen only did so much for me.
"yes you can straight up escape battles whenever" I cried.
normal is just the same but harder. what are buffs?
Hard players: 💀
Yesterday, after 155 hours (more or less) of play time, special fusions, grinding, and stupid mistakes that resulted in rage-inducing game overs, I completed Nocturne. I got the True Demon Ending. As much as I do not want to spoil anything, do yourself a favor and make sure you have plenty of dis-binds (or sacred waters), excellent healing skills, and debilitate. And if possible, recruit Dante. He is one of the first demons you can get with decent Almighty skills and can hit like a train if speced right.
All in all, this was my first ever SMT game and despite the hair pulling frustration (and the slight back seat playing from my bf who owes the game) I had a fun ass time~ When I unlocked the True Demon Ending, I was on such a high, that I could barely calm down. This game will punish you...but when you conquer it, theres no better feeling~
Laughs in Focus Freikugel
"No spoilers"
*reveals blonde boy is lucifer*
HMMMMM
That's kinda obvious if you played older SMT games, it's reccuring thing for Lucifer to take form of a blonde
@@raisingwings2913 ryuji must be lucifer in persona 5!
or anne. forgot there are 2 blondes in p5.
@@Jack_80 Caucasian kind , not dyed haired kind
Teddy.
Great video! I love it when people talk about this game and this series.
Demon: Hey, do you have Life Stone?
Demi-Fiend: Yeah, here you go.
Demon: Thanks man! Here's a Life Stone for your trouble.
2020 HD Remaster (Steam, Switch and PS4/5) is adding some stuff, Voice Acting, special dungeons for fast leveling and earn big money fast. Choosing abilities manualy before fusing the demons, that makes the game less frustrating :P
How SMT fans think of themselves: We can be a little snobbish sometimes sure, but there's so much to love about about the franchise! Free will vs order, subverting traditional viewpoints of good vs evil, the character/demon designs etc...
How non-SMT fans think of them: *OOOHHH YEAH NOCTURNE, STEP ON MY FACE! PUNISH YOUR LITTLE DEMI-FIEND WHIPPING BOY!! PROVE THAT MATADOR WILL ONCE AGAIN BE VICTORIOUS!!!*
Awesome video Buns 😎.
-who says thats not how a few of them think? =^-
Alright who said anything about Matador lol
-still haven't gotten to him but the second boss kinda kicked my ass-
Ha, I have Fog Breath on my file. It's goddrat amazing.
I find its a bit offensive how some SMT fans look down on the Persona series.
As a masochist that really sucks at planning and strategy I cant wait to try this game out then 😎
Spring 2021, HD Remaster on the Switch and PS4, get it ya nerds!
Hell yeah!... but first I gotto finish this run I'm doing on my old PS 2
Judging from the trailer for the brand new REMASTER, it sounds like there might actually be voices for it!
i am so so so EXCITED
Same here
I'm here to let you know that Hell Biker sounds like Macho Man Randy Savage and I'm so happy.
*Video ends* *Loads PlayStation Store*
SJ Webster Enjoy you suffering
SJ Webster
Prepare yourself
Same. Video was a full on nostalgiagasm.
Good luck.
I did that too
5:39 Vague explanations hit me bad. Despite hearing from Demons how important recruiting was, I didn't recruit anyone but Pixie until after I ended up in the place to fuse for the first time, at which point I realized the game wasn't making me level up before giving the talk option, and actually looked it up.
PRESS LEFT AND RIGHT ON THE D PAD TO GET NON-ATTACK OPTIONS. This includes both the Talk option, but also how to use items in battle and escape. THIS FRUSTRATED ME SO MUCH. I don't know how the game expected you to figure it out, since pressing random buttons on your controller could trigger auto-attack which is NOT good when you're like level 1, but yeah. The more you know.
Let's be honest, if you're here right now you know exactly why you're here. HD Remake babeeeee!
no longer right now, but got a powerful hankerin for nocturne out of the blow, so giving it a rewatch.
Remaster actually
I wonder if peeps will still call Nintendo "super family friendly" with Bayo 1&2 being ported to the switch (with 3 on it's way), Dark souls making it's way to the switch and the next SMT game coming out soon (as the follow up to the games that made a home on the 3DS).
Fun fact: when Platinum were designing the Nintendo costumes for Bayo they wanted to "cover up" more (to keep things cool with Nintendo) however it was Nintendo idea to reveal "more" in the end especially with the Link costume ;-).
tbh, (S)MT ~started~ on Nintendo platform.
SMT IV being on 3DS (also, don't forget Devil Survivor or Strange Journey, all DS exclusives) is equivalent to returning to the old way.
Also, there are a slew of pretty violent games on both Fami and SuFami. Nintendo of Japan is pretty metal. Family friendly aesthetic was heavily pushed by NoA in particular.
Nintendo is and have always been pushing for a baby friendly approach, see how almost all its first party IP are colorful and child friendly. It is the third party game makers the ones that have historically pushed for more freedom until nintendo had to to simply accept to get more lax with censorship to not lose third party support to other emerging consoles.
You forgot to mention doom. We also get a strange journey remake , only on 3ds though.
Dianne Renard oh, I disagree with Nintendo always trying to be kid/family friendly. Look at the Earthbound/Mother series. That shit is dark as fuck. And the Metroid series. And a few of the Zelda entries, specifically Majora's Mask and Twilight Princess. Fire Emblem is a pretty dark/mature series as well. Hell, two bosses from the Kirby series cry blood. There are Kirby bosses that literally cry blood. LITERALLY CRYING BLOOD. *CRYING. BLOOD. FUCKING KIRBY OF ALL GAMES.*
Oh, and the final boss of Earthbound resembles a fetus and was influenced by a false rape scene a child watched, but yes, we love family friendly Nintendo™
Abraham Pancake Mash Hence why i said it is up to third party developers to spice up things. Nintendo on its own barely has anything that wouldn't be all ages, as your few examples show and even things like fire emblem does their best to avoid showing bad things and merely make implications and off handed mentions of bad things having happened, being a mostly kiddified view of a bloody war.
Metroid is the only ip somewhat mature it has as some of their entries had legit oppressing atmospheres and once a while creepy monster designs
This game got me through a very tough time in my life. Always happy to see it get some spotlight. :)
SMT Nocturne is getting an HD Remaster for Switch! With SMT V releasing along it in 2021.
I got into SMT because of my friend when I was in college and it is a great series! Both Nocturne and the both Digital Devil Saga games.
I played it when i was 12, then later on in my life. To me it was a more interesting experience than FFX.
This game will be my favorite i think, i still have it even tho i don't have a ps2 anymore.
The other spin off you mentioned are also good (devil summoner raidou is really different and more story driven).
I remember getting into a random, surprise encounter with an angel. She crit hit slapped me and then asked to join my party.
As a PAL gamer, booting up the digital copy of Lucifers Call off the PlayStation Store and seeing both NTSC 60hz support in a niche PS2 game followed by the fucking Ubisoft logo made me nearly yeet my PS3 across the room in sheer confusion
I know this is kinda late, but since you like to have voice acting in games, the SMT 3 Nocturne Remaster coming next year will have voice acting, so that's amazing!
This would be super useful now that's announced for Switch and PS4 in Japan in 2020 and in the west in 2021
High five for auditory processing disorder!
Thanks for this video, I played it years ago and got stuck so I haven't played it since. But since you've made this awesome video, I'll pick it up again one of these days!
I'm watching this again, now that it's coming to the Switch. And I'm thinking about getting it as my first SMT game (haven't played Persona as well...yet).
If you can play p4 on pc, if you can
Thank you Buns for talking about a game thus giving us a remaster once again
Persona 5 and World of Final Fantasy really made me pay attention to my character stats, and any buffs that I could get. Seriously, when the enemies go up like 30 levels that's when you spend 2 hours carefully customizing you characters...and then die 200 times
Holy crap, I'm glad I found this.
The FFX random encounter sound always startled me. Ever since, I hate the mechanic.
Last semester a group of my close friends and I played this game and democratically picked where the game went plot wise due to our philosophical opinions. We didn’t beat the game, dunno if we ever will, but boy was it fun. Especially since we all had different approaches to things, the bosses were easier than anything else in the game. We beat the Matador on the second try when it was supposed to be a pattern recognition exercise. Such an enjoyable and different game.
It's okay buns smt4 more or less improved a decent amount of things you mentioned.
atlus: Nocturne remake
superbutterbuns: *my time has come*
*remaster, but yes
BUNS, GET YET BUTTER BUNS HERE!
FRESH EARLY MORNING BUNS (feat. Dante from Devil May Cry... the OG one, not that DmC abomination)
I'd actually put reboot Donte in my SMT game
-(and he would die in one hit)-
His design is from DMC2, but his personality is his OG one. The design was one of the only good things about DMC2.
8:20 spoiler
(?)
I wouldn't say that the things that happen 20 minutes on, as you say, are spoilers, but calling the kid Lucifer may be in my opinion. This was my first SMT game but I remember not getting the fact that he was Lucifer until pretty late
I picked this up on my switch thanks for your honest review of it. Love the persona series so figured I would give these a shot since V is coming soon-ish
With Persona 5 being my first SMT game, it's amazing to see how many of the personas/demons have persisted throughout the series and how faithful they are in Persona 5 compared to their earlier-day counterparts.
the random encounters are literally the main reason why i loved asakusa so much, because there was almost NONE, it really felt like a lovely home to me, and that's why it actually hurt me what happened with it at the end...
The Demi-Fiend is my favorite SMT Protag.
Also Buns there is a very consistent way to avoid battles. It's called estoma. There's a merchant in Amala that sells a demon with all the avoidance spells.
Thanks, I'll keep that in mind cause I never used them:D
My favorite protagonist would be Aleph
sooooooooooooo Wanna talk about the game's PC port and changes? Like the Journalist difficulty setting they included (see Narlys video on that one) And Voice Acting
I seriously think you have power of influence and developers are listening to you. Nearly every game you've remembered has gotten a remaster and generated positive views for fans to request developers for remasters. So thank you anyway!
Please yell about Shin Megami Tensei V.
W33AB00 wait when did that come out
Joseph Hudson its in development
How can you yell about a game when all we know is that it exists? Unless that is what you are yelling about which would raise the question "why?"
King Kazuya Yell about what we seen so far I mean.
We've seen nothing though. Only small snips and those are absolutely nothing.
Alright folks, who's here to check in on this after the announcement of SMT Nocturne HD?
I see that most of us are back here after the annoucement
Debilitate, dekaja, dekunda
SMT in a nutshell: never ending BUFFS, MUDO and HAMA!
Still the hardest thing in Nocturn is the Puzzle minigame
Nocturne is weirdly a cozy game in its way
*sets alarm for spring 2021*
ALL smt games: We are all rated m for mature.
Me, a 12 year old: THAT WONT STOP ME FROM PLAYING YOUR GAMES.
No joke, I watched all all the Persona 5 vids from ButterBuns and I’m 10
@@arsenemain7987 Happy to know another kid that likes smt and persona.....
By the way, which smt games have you played?
Sadly, I don’t own a Ps1, 2 ,3 or 4 and my mother wouldn’t allow it but once I’m 18 DEFINITELY Gonna play Persona 5
@@arsenemain7987 I used a emulator in my phone to play p3p, Try it out!
Bless youtube algorithm. Thanks for the review, gonna preorder the HD remaster!
Oh, I gave it a shot all right. HD remaster came out, swore to my bud I would get it when it went on-sale. It did... and fell in love with it. First playthrough I just made the demifiend unga-bunga with some stat debuffs and made demons that complemented. When I realized just how many different ways you can play it, it became a theorycraft addiction. Seemed to be a trend for a lot of games from around that time, but, man, my free time hates it.
You did great and i love you
I can finally play this because its getting released on the switch
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HOW ABOUT FOR THE PRICE OF SENDING AN EMAIL... WE CAN VOTE FOR SHIN MEGAMI TENSEI NOCTURNE????
Shin megami tensei nocturne would never take advantage of our innate gullibility!
If you're big on JRPG combat and relatively low story-density, be sure to check out Cosmic Star Heroine, which addresses your comments about encounters and grinding near exactly. Visible encounters, and grinding is mostly impossible because the encounters don't respawn, so the difficulty setting is all about how adept you want to get with its unique combat mechanics.
Nice, detailed video. I think you strike a good balance between having an opinion, providing rationale, and acknowledging other opinions. ("If you like X, you will/won't like Y." Very helpful.)
Literally this is my first video of yours and I’m HONESTLY in fucking love!!!