I drove around Wales' oldest town at 20mph
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- The new 20mph default speed limit in Wales has been highly controversional. We sent WalesOnline reporter Rob Harries to drive around Carmarthen at 20mph and he was left wondering, why all the screaming and foaming at the mouth?
Higher revs in a lower gear, more exhaust emissions.
There's not enough emissions being produced to warrant getting EV's so let make ICE car's as uneconomical as possible so that EV's make sense then.
@@hoolydooly5072 Says you wearing clothes made from plastics, probably made abroad to boot, then transported here by highly polluting diesel engined container ships ! Hypocrites the lot of you !
@@hoolydooly5072 Steam trains could go green. There are other ways to boil that water.
Or, if you are really committed to generating higher emissions, just leave your engine running for an extra half hour once you get home.
@@DavidJones-or8ek Cars create less emissions today than ever before, if anyone is committed to what you say then just buy an old Sierra, Cortina etc etc, but I don't see many of those around, so your theory is BS as well as expensive ! No one is committed as you say, utter BS.
I live in Dihewyd Ceredigion which has now become 20 mph, there is a small school or at least for a while after the council decided to throw £16 million at a new one because they cant afford the upkeep on the smaller ones , Anyway, i dont mind 20 outside schools but through this village and many more locally it is just stupidity , you would be lucky to see a pedestrian or person on a bike once a month and you would never see a young person out and about
But interestingly, would you and others vote differently from Labour as a result of this madness ? How long before all cars are banned from town/city centres when a ULEZ type schemes come into force over the next five years (and it surely will) accepting this inevitably means the next step will follow, just a matter of time, it's called conditioning !
A person commented this on another video.
Of the 1,002 respondents surveyed, 16% expressed 'concern' over cars driving too fast - so 160 people. Of that 16% just 3% (so around 5 people) stated that they would want speed limits in their local area lowered. So, five Welsh residents said they wanted speed limits lowered vs. over 500,000 people who objected via the petition. Hmm, democracy is alive and well in Wales.
So, 500,000 of the 160 people surveyed want us to drive faster?
I think there may have been some double counting on that petition.
Why tf have they reduced the speed limit to 20mph? Then they'll reduce it to 10mph its absolutley insane. May aswell just walk everywhere. The guy or people who commissioned this needs to be severely punished for this.
DrakeFRAUD has failed his driving test so many times so like a spoilt child throwing his toys out of the pram he's thought FU if I can't drive I'm screw the lot of yer.
The fun comes when you are going between Wales and England.
Also people say it's ok to have a 20mph outside schools, you couldn't do 20mph if you wanted to because the parents cause chaos dropping their children off because they illegally park anywhere
Roads where twenty has some safety value, roads where it has none. Guess which ones the camera vans will gravitate towards!
Oh, but its not about revenue ...
Come on, just about everyone except the speed zealots know that 20 is ridiculous!
Keep voting Labour, lots more that bs on the way !
We've moved into the 21st century and man has saw fit for us to go slower. Thanks for technology.
Bring back Concorde
Yes, we're in the 21st century, but there are now more distractions for a driver - phones, gadgets, interactive screens in cars, more buttons to fiddle with; plus the roads are busier, drivers are more aggressive, and we have many more older drivers who often have poor eyesight, or indeed the onset of dementia.
So there are many reasons why it's important to reduce speed limits, whether you like it or not.
You've also got to understand the reasons for these 20 limits - not just safety, but also lower noise, lower pollution, and increased confidence for those considering walking or cycling.
@@joules531 - Joules you seem to be complete blind to the big picture - you really need to do some research away from Govt think tanks, they have some seriously dark plans - the Fabain Way, lilttle by little, slowly, slowly, chip, chip, chipppng away all of our human rights and freedoms. FFS Wake up to whats actually happening world wide not just the UK it is so very, very, very dark.
Bring back horses ! 😄
Lucky you were driving 20mph and you managed to miss all those pedestrians and cyclists.
Well clever guy, what if you were a care worker having to get to multiple appointments in a short time, or an ambulance crew responding to an emergency but cant make any progress because the 20mph limit has gridlocked the area and these things are already happening.
Want to see how bad Labour would be in government, just look at Wales.
It's all about gearing up for the electric car! A petrol or diesel car travelling at 30mph can stop in a shorter distance than an electric car due to it being heavier. The momentum pushing it forward means it takes longer to slow down and stop. Answer... lower the speed limit, problem solved. How long will it be before they change the limits in the highway code? It's coming, no doubt about it.
Yes, as you say EVs are much heavier so need much bigger discs and pads which create more poisonous dust particles which float around in the air, far more hazardous than any ICE engine ! But don't let facts get in the way of the net zero zealots !
@@dynevor6327Your theory doesn't take into account the hazardous poisons during manufacture, not to mention the mining of the chemicals required where the people are killing themselves for peanuts mining tis stuff.
The fact remains more hazardous dust is produced with an EV in everyday town driving, these cars are way heavier than an ICE car, and require larger pads as a result, and returning to drums won't change that fact, once the brakes are applied more dust is produced with an EV, disposing of the used batteries is something not taken into account in the pollution stakes, also extra tyre wear is another issue no one likes to talk about, rubber particles washed down into the drainage systems due to heavier wear and tear on the tyres because of the heavier weight load, EVs produce more pollution during the manufacturing process, don't get me wrong, I would love an EV, but lets be more honest and to take into account all the minuses and pluses on both sides.
What this will do is create a nation of children who aren't threatened by moving vehicles. They'll go and get clobbered on roads with a 40 limit that will look much the same to them. Child pedestrian deaths will increase.
So now the police can pursue a vehicle on foot.
They can if the one law the driver's scared of breaking is speeding
Drive at 5 mph, n really cock things up
I am Welsh and when I go driving down the town my car is stuck in second gear to stay below 20 mph and I am looking more at my Speedo than what is going on around me in the road whilst my car engine is over revering because it wants to go into third gear as cars are not designed to drive at 20 mph all the time and yesterday a electric bicycle over took me doing about 21 mph and therefore I will be signing the petition
You'll just have to accept bicycles are faster than cars these days
Get over it
BUT, did the cyclist observe the 1:5 meter rule when overtaking you......
I ride a motorbike so when I get to the front of traffic in the tailbacks now 9 out 10 times the tailback is caused because the front car is stuck behind a cyclist and too scared to over take as they know they will need to do 25+ to over take the cyclist.
It looked very slow so I played the video at double speed to get to your conclusion. Unfortunately, this means you were seen to 40 mph in a 20 mph zone and the ticket is in the post.
ITS DANGEROUS TO KEEP LOOKING AT THE SPEEDO INSTEAD OF THE ROAD
It's not just the 20mph zones in Carmarthen town that are frustrating, it's the reduction of higher speed limits (e.g. 40 now dropped to 30) that have been put in place as well. You say you don't see why everyone is angry but by your own (very short!) experiment you can see that roads that were fine at 30 have been unnecessarily reduced. The government's own report states that this will do little to improve road safety. You fail to highlight the real reason for this is to force people out of their cars! ( Also shown in the WAG's own report)
You said it: "I'm constantly looking at the speedometer". As we all are. But it's bloody dangerous!
The assembly must stop eating those mushrooms they effect your Judgement lol 😂
So 20 is so slow but when I go 20 on my bike the same people yell at me for reckless speeding :D
Get off the path then 😂😂
I never understand the argument of “i keep looking at the speedometer”. Do you not do that on every road with a speed limit?
NO a good driver drives to the road conditions 20mph is an artificially slow speed (most of the time) to maintain thus requiring more attention to the speedo .
@@scottswahayone432 Then drive on some of the roads by where I live. 40mph when you can safely drive at 60mph. Get over it.
Gotta agree with this bit. I'd be pretty annoyed if I were stuck at 20mph where it feels like the road if fine for 30/40 but boo hoo that you have to check the speedo. Learn what the engine sounds like at 20mph or how fast things move around you. Just like you had to do to get used to the other speeds
It does get more difficult to judge speed at lower speeds.
many unnecessary accidents and injuries to follow as people continually take their eyes off the road for fear of a fine but after all, its nothing to do with safety, but revenue. another step backwards.
I wonder what percentage of the Welsh traffic is actually obeying the 20 mph speed limit? At some point everybody will exceed 20 mph during their journey (your speedo registered 21 during this video) so technically everybody driving in Wales in a 20 zone will have broken the law. It won't be good for the environment as they cars aren't geared to plod along at 20 mph, It would be interesting to know if this is increasing consumption.
Im from Wales. Im only 14 but usually it takes me 10 minutes to get to school. It now takes about 25 minutes. The traffic and road rage is horrendous.
It increases fuel consumption but reduces emissions as people stop driving for commuting as it's too slow and expensive under the new speed limit
@@paulcooper3410 so the Gov wins because more fuel sales whilst supposedly reducing emissions......and the EV brigade win because it's a justification to buy an EV instead.......except imagine dropping loads of money on a performance Tesla and then all you can do is 20 mph. The problem is ICE vehicles are not designed to potter around at 20 mph. Increased wear on clutch and gearbox. Fairly sure a lazy driven car over time will pollute more at low speed than a car that has occasional burst of speed.
Their idea is to reduce pollution by reducing the number of drivers on the road
Their method for doing that is this 20 limit for nearly all urban areas making cars so slow people would decide there's no point in driving them
So when someone spends a load of money on a performance Tesla and finds himself getting overtaken by cyclists he'd probably be so ashamed and imbaressed he'd never use the car for a short commute again
@@paulcooper3410 Staggeringly stupid......slower vehicle will pollute more.,.....longer journey time = longer the engine runs and at 20 in a hilly town people will spend lots of time in the wrong gear. Slower journey means it takes longer for delivery companies to make their deliveries. The people using the bus aren't getting anywhere quicker.....the busses must surely abide by the same speed limit. I expect that there will be a knock on to tourism (I've been to Wales before (lovely place) but I won't be going now) so the local economies will suffer. So come a snowy winter when the buses struggle and the locals got rid of their cars......or even a bus drivers strike......what then? If there are fewer cars on the road will the council bother to grit.......will the lack of traffic make the roads cover with snow quicker........we can't bring back horses.......they fart.....greenhouse gas.
Technically he is doing 17mph as most speedos read under by 3mph
Actually they read over ! ie when the indicated speed says 20 mph you are actually doing 18 mph, the difference is usually a 10% error, which is deliberate to protect the manufacturers from prosecution for under reading errors !
@@Colin623 thats what i meant but worded it wrong 😂
Welcome to snails
These pro-20 mph zealots are not aware if a fire station for example, is a part time station the drivers need to get to the fire station as quickly as possible, but they are restricted by the same 20 mph limit ! Only when in the fire engine will they be allowed to brake the speed limit ! So people may die as a result in a countryside station where their are no full time staff, the same for the lifeboats where they are scrambled from their place of work, they too will have to obey those 20 mph limits, this will lead to deaths at sea as well as in fire situations, that the only logical conclusion.
When a few dozen people get tickets on holiday and decide not to come back to Wales and then Drakeford tells us wales is in an economic downturn !
@@MrAvant123 Excellent point, it must make someone who doesn't drive but uses a Taxi more expensive too, time is money !
If a sign says 30, then it's 30. PERIOD.
And if a sign says 60, then it's 60, Period.
@@Colin623 definitely 70
My car has cruise control so it’s easy to stick to 20mph. This speed limit will probably encourage more people to cycle, which is good for health and reduces congestion.
I am Welsh and when I go driving down the town my car is stuck in second gear to stay below 20 mph and I am looking more at my Speedo than what is going on around me in the road whilst my car engine is over revering because it wants to go to third gear as cars are not designed to drive at 20 mph all the time and yesterday a electric bicycle over took me doing about 21 mph and therefore I will be signing the petition
Hmmnnn.......good point.......let me go buy shares in Halfords because of all the bicycle sales. I wish you the best of luck with the future maintenance of your car's engine and gearbox...........hey wait a minute........you're using your car in a 20 zone......you're not cycling.......so it hasn't encouraged you to cycle everywhere.......but you believe it will encourage everybody else to cycle...............no really......... best of luck with the future maintenance of your car's engine and gearbox........and if you have a diesel......the EGR valve and particulate filter.
@@polyphonics557 - if he's got an automatic it will cost him dearly as on crusie control they cannot cope with 20mph and are constantly changing up and down gears.
Keep throwing rose petals!
It's really easy, if you see a sign saying 30, the speed limit is 30, if there is a sign saying 20, the limit is 20, if you see a sign saying 50....guess what? Why are you pretending to be confused?
I'm guessing you aspire to be the next Jeremy Vine.
"if you see a sign saying 30, the speed limit is 30"
If you pass the sign yes, if others join that road after the sign, it is 20mph to them as there are no repeaters! Bizarre, but that's how it currently is.
3rd, Is Now The New 4th Gear.
Well at least you got time enough to enjoy the views at that speed 😂😂😂
But your eyes are glued to the speedo and not the views or more importantly the ROAD.
Just keep under double the speed limit and keep your eyes open!!
If you kill or severely injure someone, doing 40 in a 20 zone, you’ll almost certainly be going to jail.
@@joules531 so many who used to drive at 30-35 in the 30mph zones are now doing 40-50mph in the 20 zones and no longer slowing down for schools.
There's lovely isn't it
If you can't stick to the speed limit (anywhere) just contact the DVLA and hand in your licence.
OK.
I do recall a similar amount of fuss when we were first forced to wear seat belts. Some even bought t-shirts with a fake seat belt printed on the front in order to avoid wearing a real one.
I think the people wearing fake seat belts have now died out!
A little like Suicide Bombers. They are also a dying race! But is it only in towns, or all over Wales? Finn. Denmark
I could ride a bike faster than that!
Many people do. They should be jailed@@finncarlbomholtsrensen1188
Set your limiter if you have one.
My Issue is if the fire and ambulance drivers , do they have to stick to the stupid speed limit , and if so how many people would end up dying ! .
No, obviously when they have blue lights and sirens on they don’t like in any other speed limit in the country.
In general i'm more concerned about the traffic and road rage issues. Ambulance, police and fire can of course go over the limit. However normal civilians, like me who go to school work, are struggling because its taking double the time. So much crashes happening and road rage.
@@jaymakesvideo Yes but are you aware if the firestation is a part time station the drivers need to get to the fire station as quickly as possible, but they are restricted by the same 20 mph limit ! Only when in the fire engine will they be allowed to brake the speed limit ! So people may die as a result in a countryside station where their are no full time staff, the same for the lifeboats where they are scrambled from their place of work, they too will have to obey those 20 mph limits, this will lead to deaths at sea as well as in fire situations, logical conclusion.
@@Colin623 But you could say that about any speed limit? To solve that issue let’s abolish all speed limits, then more people will die? I get your point but what about paramedics, they don’t work part time.
@@jaymakesvideo Exactly, doesn't matter who it is, if they have to travel in a non-emergency vehicle then they are restricted to whatever the prevailing speed limit is, unless they are in an emergency vehicle, so my point is for the hard of learning..... those people who are in danger will face waiting longer if the fire brigade have workers that only come in at emergency times, they will take longer to reach those who are in danger simply because they are not allowed to break the 20 mph while travelling to the fire station or lifeboat ! pretty simple to understand even for zealots of Net Zero ! Oh well maybe not 🤦♂
Get over it…..if it’s that difficult take a retest !
Sticking to the 20 limit can be tricky, but people will gradually get used to it.
Two tips:
Set you satnav to beep if your speed exceeds 20.
Or, if you have a modern var with a speed limiter, like most Ford cars these days, just set the limiter to 20.
Remember, you don't have to stick to exactly 20, any more than you have to stick to exactly 70 on a motorway. If you have trouble keeping under 20, just give yourself a bit of leeway, by driving at 15.
The new speed limits of 20mph is just dangerous and stupid. Has more of a negative effect than positive.
Do you have any genuine examples?
Links to news stories etc. of the dangerous and stupid consequences of sticking to the speed limit?@@riazhussain2333
I dont want to get used to it. They can keep the 20Mph outside schools other than that we just get rid of Drakeford and go back to a non-dictatorial welsh leadership..
@@MrAvant123 so, you’re happy for a higher death and injury rate, because you want to drive at 30?
Did you know that 1,111 people were killed or seriously injured in Welsh 30 zones last year. Did you know that you’re 5 times more likely to kill a child at 30, when compared to 20?
@joules531 I wonder how many of those deaths and serious injuries were caused by careful drivers staying within the speed limit
It would be interesting to see data on that
Gay
People still tear-ass through my village like they have always done. Most people, that I see, don't take any notice of speed limits; whether it was/is 20mph/30mph/50mph.... drive at 50mph on the M4 either side of the Brynglas tunnels (Wales) (mandatory 50mph limit) and you will be overtaken; at times at great speed. I think folk should just chill out and leave their start destination a bit earlier. Too much rush & panic in this world.