Glock 20 Gen5 Review
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
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Today on Alaskan Ballistics, we're shooting the Glock 20 Gen5 10mm. Chuke had many issues with his gun. What do you think?
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The gen 5's have standard rifling, not hexagonal rifling like the Gen 1 - 4 Glocks.
Thanks for the info. I forgot to mention that
@@AlaskanBallistics Gen five does not have standard rifling. Bad information .
Enhanced Polygonal rifling they call the Marksman barrel
So you still have to buy another barrel to shoot lead HC?
@@MrWatson2001 no you don't. It's a polygonal barrel with sharp instead of rounded edges with a crowned muzzle. 20 changes on the gen 5 the parts are not interchangeable with any other Glock.
Before you buy a g20 at your LGS, make sure it comes with 15 round mags rather than California 10 rounders.
Yes! But even if it's does, get the dremel tool working and the 15rd springs and followers
I though that was funny mine came with cali mags as well I’m in nc
Gen 3 only in California
Didn't a judge strike down the handgun roster?
Dumb how we can't get the 15rd anymore in wa state either. Good thing I have a few gen4 15 rd mags already.
I’ve got the Gen3 and Gen5 and both have over 1k rounds of Underwood (180-200 grain hollow points through each with one with zero malfunctions and wouldn’t hesitate to use either one of them in a shtf scenario and to be honest, my Gen3 is one of my bedside defense weapons and my Gen5 is carried in my small day pack everywhere I go. I’ve never tested a Limp Wrist scenario as it’s (IMO) one of the easiest to shoot self defense weapons I own.
Thanks for taking the time to make the video. Good luck and God Bless!
I'm getting a Glock 20 Gen 5, no mater what Chuke says! Lol
Lol...
I sold my G20g4 and bought a g5. I love it.
To address the stiffer recoil spring (and my weakened hand) I added a Recover Tactical charging handle. I also added an ArmaLaser TR22 green laser like I did on my G43 (TR5).
After a few thousand rounds I can report zero issues whatsoever. And, I am more accurate with it than I was with the G20g4 and that I currently am with my trusty concealed G43.
If I could only have one pistol, this G20g4 would be it.
Nice. Check your last sentence?
@@AlaskanBallisticschanges his mind to the gen4 at the end. Lol
Kkm will have friction/feeding issues over stock, that chamber support issues is negligible
Also you don't have to start the slide from the middle, idk If this is your first time handling a gen 5 glock, but this is definitely not the case. Bad information for new glock shooters
What are you talking about?
Glock 20, regardless of Gen, is the best 10mm pistol. The others with the fancy doo-hickeys and special features are just more things that can go wrong. Don't get me wrong, I still love my XDM Elite 3.8 10mm, but in the end, it's all about the Glock and how easy it is to maintain and legendary reliability.
You mispelled Glock 40. 😜
Just kidding I get the sentiment. Thanks for watching and the comment.
Yeah I just bought my Gen 5 10mm and I just might put the Tungsten iron guide rod for a bit more accuracy and that’s it.
Great work guys I’m so happy to see it run! I think you hit the nail on the head with the cleaning. I cleaned mine when I first got it. When I tested Buffalo Bore Friday I limp wristed worse than Chuke’s video so I think you could rule that out.
Good to know . Thank you.
Is it really possible to limp wrist worse than chuke on accident?
I just got into guns and was dumb and didn't pay attention to cleaning the guns out of the box. I've been fortunate the couple of guns I did that to weren't heavily greased and are made well, but now I make darn sure to clean them first.
From the opposite end of the continent in sunny Florida I bid you good day and clean shootin'.
Have fun my friend in the sun. It's sunny season here now 😁
I've had mine for about six weeks or so and have put about 200 rounds through it....runs like a champ!!! Not one hiccup and its recoil is noticeably less than my 1911 10mm.
Funny how that steel vibrates more than polymer isn't it? I mean the gun is heavier in a 1911 so you'd think it'd recoil less.
@@AlaskanBallistics: Exactly!!!!
I have one of the very first G20's ever imported. It had the old style magazines to begin with. I have made some minor alterations to it like a lighter trigger connector, a grip plug, adjustable sights and captive guide rod. I find the ten round mags with the steel insert to be totally reliable regardless of other conditions. I have used a Lone Wolf .40 S&W barrel on it without issue so I am hoping the 10mm Lone Wolf I have in storage will be a winner as well. It's seen a lot of miles in my lifetime and is a trusted companion despite it's bulk.
Good luck. Lately lone wolf barrels have had issues
I’m glad you got it figured out for Chuke hahaha! Not surprised it worked great for you Chuck. Great video, sir. Thanks.
Little cleaning never hurt anyone lol. That's why Chuke let's me borrow guns. I return them clean.
@@AlaskanBallistics That’s a pretty good deal!
See I did not know you had to clean a gun before you shot it I am brand new into this arena. Alaskan ballistics and channels like this are really really good for guys like me and you're saving me a lot of money and time and maybe my life who knows Thank you so much
Thank You for watching my friend. Godspeed and good hunting! Feel free to ask away questions
If the finger grooves on the gen 4 don't fit well get the Dremel tool out and customize it to fit. On mine I also thinned the top side of the trigger housing a little and around where my index finger wraps around and now it fits more comfortably which has also picked up my draw & shoot speed. Go slow and scrutinize as not to remove too much material.
Thank you for the advice! Godspeed and good hunting to you my friend!
Thank you chuck & chuke for the information 👍🥶⛄️
You're welcome brother
Thanks for the chamber support comparison. I tried to ask Chuke on his channel via comments but not sure I phrased it properly
You're quite welcome. Godspeed and good hunting my friend
I like Chuke -- he's ALMOST like a real person!
🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪
I have the gen 3 and never had an issue
I especially like the finger groves on the gen 3 for better grip
Thanks for this video
I'm glad you do. I can't stand the gen4 fingergrooves.
Just bought a G20 Gen 5 and it was bone dry out of the box with some rusty/brown looking dust in the slide. Cleaned that all up real nice and lubricated it before shooting and it shoots smooth with no issues. Great gun now just trying to decide on which woods ammo to pickup.
Yeah you did it right. That Brown stuff is a preservative so that the gun doesn't rust in storage.
190gr buffalo bore mono metal will penetrate the best.
Best ammo for the woods is easily underwood and maybe buffalo bore
your channel is a hidden gem my friend
Thank You Kindly! Godspeed and good hunting to you and yours!
It is always better to get a second opinion, and between you and Chuke I can get a pretty good idea of the merits of this gun over that. So I appreciate ya both in that regard. I've been waiting for this one...
Thank you. Brother
This will be a gun for walks in the woods, I wouldn't carry a 10m for edc
@Ricky!!!!! Why not? It's a great edc gun. The caliber gets great penetration and expansion. Not to mention almost 700 ft lbs depending on the load in a short barrel glock 29!
Not caring an 10mm edc is crazy. I carry mine edc.. all the time
@@AlaskanBallistics What is EDC?
Every Day Carry
The small plastic rod is for the changing of the interchangeable back straps. Don't throw it away.
Ahh thanks
Looks great and new M.O.S. will allow great use of holographic sights for longer range shots.
Nice info. Thank you.
red dot, I wish they had holographic that small
thanks
Thank You
Do you prefer the gen4 g20 or gen5 g20 in 2024?
Honestly i don't see enough of a difference to trade my gen4 to get a gen5. Chamber support is still the same. That's my big issue
just picked mine up today, was going to get a gen 5 26 but seen this and did not know it was out in store. so got it. as a south paw couldnt be be happier! (i edc a gen 5 34 mos so hype on this)
Nice. A gen5 34 is my bedside gun
Something tells me Chuck has bear trap grip strength… he shoots 10mm like crazy and it’s clearly cold there… yet it looks like he’s shooting 9mm
Thanks man. It didn't feel like i was shooting 9mm . Godspeed and good hunting.
How’s it against the Gen 3 G 20. I didn’t know the y changed from hexagonal barreling to standard round. Sounds ok but I trained with gen 3 G 20 for over 21 years I’ll stick with what I know. I do like the 10mm period . I do have an affinity for the EAA WITNESS 10 mm class even though I don’t own one. Only problem bigger bulky but shoot’s and hits on target.
It's more reliable than the gen3 20 i had
I've shot Gen 4's and they run flawlessly. No reason to change
Agreed
So guys am I doing something wrong? I bought a 20 Gen 5 and the only ammo I Have issues with is underwood hard cast 220 grain. It will not cycle that ammo on a full magazine. Once the magazine is down to 5 rounds it will cycle. The gun has 500 rounds through it, and has been cleaned.
220gr is hard on any platform. The 200gr Underwood and my 180gr handloads penetrate as far or farther with more ft lbs because of speed.
Thanks for this video! Chuke had me not wanting to get it anymore but you have changed my mind back. I don't have a glock20 and always run red dots so I've been waiting for this! Can't wait
I have the gen 4. It’s such a blast! I may trade it in for the gen 5 though, because I also prefer red dots 👍🏼
@@landenx how's the reliability been with the gen 4?
@@m.w2618 Disclaimer: I don’t shoot it nearly as much as my 9mm glocks.
I have shot about 200 rounds total, all of which have been fiocchi dynamic defense 180gr jhp. I haven’t had a single malfunction.
@M. W MY gen4 is pretty reliable unless I put the g40 6" OEM barrel in it. Then it gets picky.
@Landen A I'd wait until more aftermarket support comes out for the recoil springs so there can be some consistency
Debating on getting the gen 5 my gen 4 has been great I've heard a few people saying they had problems with the gen 5 but don't know if it's just they didn't clean it before hand
Correct. Chuke didn't clean this one and had issues, he probably limp wristed it too
Just bought one, still haven't fired it yet. She's a beast weightwise. Diggin this one!!
She's not that heavy lol. Godspeed and good hunting
@@AlaskanBallistics lol, was meant complimentary. Love the weight!
@lancecarley7411 good lol.
My apologies.
I'll stick with my Gen 4 G20 and G40. I have KKM barrels in both can't be more pleased with their performance.
Amen. Love my g40 with the kkm barrel. Got to get one for my gen4 g20
@@AlaskanBallistics what length barrel would you get for your G20 ? Thanks
Me too! I have Alpha Wolf barrels in all 3 of my Glock gen4 10mm’s and they are awesome!
When the alpha wolf barrels work they're cool. Too bad they do most of them with an un polished feed ramp at a steep angle. I've had to ship back two barrels
@@AlaskanBallistics I've purchased a couple of Double Diamond 40S&W conversion to 9mm barrels from the Glock store and they've worked flawless. I've also got several G40 KKM TB and 1 KKM G20 TB of which they've also worked flawless. With some of the Korean/Chinese brand barrels, the quality seems to be hit and miss. The KKM barrels seem to be very consistently close fit tolerances, high quality fit and finish. In addition, the bores are very smooth with crisp sharp cut rifling, tight SAAMI dimensioned chambers and they come with near mirror polish feed ramps. If I was purchasing an aftermarket barrel and I was using the gun to protect myself/loved ones from whatever, I for sure would spend a little extra and get a KKM barrel, otherwise all the other barrels are probably fine (usually).
Do you recommend the gen 4? I just went to the shop looking for a g20 but didn’t expect to see a gen 5 but I held it and felt good in the hands coming from a hellcat micro
Yes. But the gen5 works. Kkm bagel either way
Got the gen 4 3 years ago. Not 1 hiccup. Eats anything and everything.
Nice! Keep shooting straight
Thank you for the heads UP
Thank you
@@AlaskanBallistics Always enjoy your videos 📸👏
@vicmalonemichealgprops appreciate brother
The biggest part is stopping me from buying the Gen 5 is the polymer pin that holds down the cruciform to the connector inside the part that holds the ejector
A fair point. Thank you
So Glock mostly follow suit with other companies and the aftermarket with gen5 that other have been doing for a while now. Great upgrades if you don't got a Glock or don't got a 10mm but is it too late to the game?
Same as the new 47? Is answer what aftermarket has been doing for a while.
The new 47 shoots sweet though
G20 gen 5 had been nothing but great for me, has ran everything I’ve put in it 100’s of rounds at that
Sweet
Still holding on to my Gen 4. When all the variables are worked out and every one is shooting their Gen 5's consistently without issues then and only then would I consider buying one. Give it about a year.
Understood
Same. I still have my gen 3
nothing wrong with the 3 or 4
@Absolutely nothing wrong with them @Dan Cruze
@@AlaskanBallistics something i like about the 4 over the 5 to be honest. they are all reliable. only thing is get mos version if you want an optic. otherwise you can't really make a mistake getting a glock at all.
The marksman barrel is STILL polygonal rifling and you shouldn’t shoot hardcast through it….
I just picked up a 21 gen 5 and the holosun eps and Ameriglo sights are on the way…..
Coated hardcast is okay
I feel like the Gen 5 20 is a step backward.
I was very disappointed to learn that they now shipped with a plastic mos plate and only one adapter for the Holosun or RMR.
The G40 is the only 10mm Glock I would trust.
My g29gen4 is good too. But the g40 gen4 is certainly the best!
I trust my Gen 4 Glock 20 with the standard barrel and with a threaded KKM barrel. At this point I trust it more with the KKM barrel as most of the rounds I've fired have been through that. Shoots everything from 40 S&W up to full Buffalo Bore & Underwood 10 mm ammo.
Honestly most people can’t afford to shoot enough Buffalo bore or underwood hot rodded 10mm Hardcast etc… to see a malfunction.
The average joe spends 100$ on some very expensive (Bear loads) which is about 75 rounds, shoots 1 mag and calls it 100% reliable.
I’ve shot the piss out of the G29 G20 and G40 and I can honestly say the G40 was the most reliable.
When you run the hot stuff through the Glock you have to take mag springs , recoil springs and the most important thing IMO is measuring the feed lips on your magazines with a caliper. The tolerance is big and most failure to feed is attributed to that gap being to wide.
I personally would not trust a Glock 20 any Gen without doing the proper modifications mentioned.
I would rather carry the 45acp Glock 21 with 255grn hard cast or even a 9mm with Buffalo bore outdoorsman 148grn hard cast over the Glock 20 10mm.
Edit: my personal bear defense pistol has been the Glock model 41 45acp 255grn Hardcast chrono right at 1000fps. That’s 16 on the Taylor knockout scale.
Compared to a 200 grn 10mm @ 1250fps scoring 14 on the Taylor knockout scale.
That's good info my friend
@@ronolson2024
Hahahaha not MINE
My g20 with a kkm was trash
I was SO happy when i finally found someone to take it off my hands!!
I've been shooting Glocks for probably 25 years, but I'm not sure I'd trust it in 10mm. 9mm, 40 cal - no problem. I want to love it, but I'm haring a lot of mixed reviews about it, and I just can't risk a problem when I need it the most.
Never had an issue with them in 10mm unless you get the springs wet on the magazines.
My friend let me shoot the G40 10mm gen4. It was the most accurate handgun I've ever fired. I love that I can genuinely call it the biggest baddest Glock.
The g40 is my favorite glock, and I've got a ton of videos on it my friend. Take care Kevin!
When will they have a gen5 model 40 mos??
I don't know but I love my gen4 40 mos
I don’t know. After watching Chuke’s review in the Gen5, I’m holding off on buying this. I have a Gen3 and love it. I think I’d rather get the gen4 model 40 (long slide ). At least they eat everything.
Everything but PPU FMJ that's a 180gr loaded at 920 fps lol When I first got my g40
@@AlaskanBallistics Yeah I have some blue box PPU FMJ’s I’ve had for about 7-8 years. I shot it out of my Gen3 and thought I was shooting a 380. Lol. It was weak stuff. I can see how the G40 with the heavier slide might have issue with that load.
It did not say to clean first. It said be sure it’s “free from obstructions” there’s a difference. Glocks come with a grease from the factory that needs to be run before cleaning. Just put 50 or so rounds through it before cleaning anything.
@@edgetvnet5440 fair enough. But in the -5° he was shooting in, that grease gummed things up
@@AlaskanBallistics I’ll give you that!
Funny how it worked in +7° (still pretty cold) after cleaning it though.
I have a gen 3 g23 that would shoot fine, but when I would rack it sometimes it would not slide back into full battery. A little oil on the plastic guide rod solved the problem
Good to know
What do you think about a Glock 20 Gen 4 made in the USA?
Should be fun!
Great video! What are the difference between the GEN five and GEN four that makes you shoot your GEN four better? Trigger re set
Honestly i think it's the bigger frame too. But mostly it's more trigger time with the gen4
I wonder if they will pump out a a Gen 5 29?
Eventually
I think you might see a 5.7 model first lol
Lol maybe so
1 year later u got what u wished for😂
@@cbg482 yes they did but I just wish is was an MOS.
I like the gen4 better bc finger grooves and i like the classic glock look without front serrations. I know, silly reasons. Lol
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PS a modern thumbs forward grip (no revolver gripping) will help with feeding.
That's what we were doing
I just got the G20 gen 5 a couple days ago. Havent even shot it yet and never had a 10mm, only 9mm. Hopefully they release some longer gen 5 barrels for 10mm. Seems like there is a lot of options for 10mm loaded at different velocities and vastly different energies. The hotter rounds with 600-700 fpe look great for self defense and out in the woods
Edit: Ive shot it 4 times now (about 300 rounds) without any issues (4 kinds of hollow points, 220gr hard cast, 3 kinds of fmj) and its a little more fun to shoot than 9mm.
I've got many demonstrations of those types of rounds on the channel. 6" kkm barrel will stretch that energy into 750 to 850 ft lbs depending on the load.
@Alaskan Ballistics thanks. I plan on getting a 6 or 9 inch barrel when they release it for gen 5. There aren't any bears in my part of the state, but when I go to the mountains, swamp , or beach areas that have black bears, I would prefer the longer barrel. I just put a holosun on my G20 too
The velocities i get with the 9" aren't usually worth the extra length over my 6.5" kkm barrel in the g40.
Check out my glock 29 vs 20 vs 40 playlist. All of the videos from the last 2 years have the 6.5" and 9" barrels
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@@AlaskanBallistics yep still waiting on the gen5 G20 barrels. Ive shot my G20.5 four times now and it runs great
Glad it runs well
They possibly put the stronger spring for a more positive lockup. I was wondering if it could be the cause of the erratic ejection. Another thing the lockup on the bottom of the barrel is not the same as the gen 4.
True
So even with an ejector that's so tall you can't push the slide over it, you're getting ejected cases straight back in the face? Can that ejector fin be tuned to save your eyes and eyepro?
That is a good question did you see the erratic ejection?
@@AlaskanBallistics No I didn't see it here, but I trust you. I've had some splash damage from S&B before too.
Deagles are the worst. Lots of people have gotten forehead welts from those.
I can't wait until the Ghetto blaster in 10mm is out... That's right, Hi-Point has the JXP10 10mm coming out by Shot Show.
Lol yep
Underwood hardcast be slappin 👋 💥
Little bit
So i get u sticking to the gen 4 but why wouldn't u get the gen5 if it has all those lil upgrades?i currently have the gen 4 to but the gen 5 is calling me i just seen videos of them jamming which bothers me alot😂
This firearm was in such a video, but it wasn't cleaned from the packing oils. Firearms 101.
Sticking to gen 4 because I don't see any inherent advantages to the gen5 for me
All u have to do to put the slide back on traditionally like all the other gens is…..push down the firing pin safety on the bottom of the slide before putting slide back on.
Okay thanks. Don't have to do that in gen4 or gen3
@@AlaskanBallistics Yes you still have to with the (Gen 4), for whatever reason it’s specific to the 10mm but not with the other calibers.
Not on my gen4
Alot of ppl say that the guns are supposed to run dry. I've found the opposite to be true when it comes to reliability. It takes all of 2 minutes to clean a Glock so the powder build up on the extra lubrication is an irrelevant point. In my unimportant opinion
I totally agree with you. Godspeed and good hunting.
I love some 10 mm.I didn't know Glock had the 20 out in a Gen 5 version.I do like my 20SF,,& I don't plan on parting with it.I would like to give the M&P 10 mm a try.
That M&P 2.0 10mm in FDE🤤🤤
It's had some feeding issues though
After the 1st time removing the slide on my Gen 4 Glock 20 slide I could not put it back on. I actually broke the ejector rod and had to buy a new one. After installing the new ejector rod it still wouldn't go back on, so I brought it back to Cabella's where I bought it and they couldn't get it back together either. So I compared a brand new Gen 4 Glock 20's slide after removing it and compared the 2 slides. I noticed that on the new slide the striker assy. was a bit more forward than mine. So I depressed the safety block plunger down, moved the striker assy. forward, and my slide was able to be re-assembled back on the lower. The same thing might be happening when you tried to put the KKM barrel in the Gen 5 slide. Hope you try this and get back to us as to whether or not this fixed the problem with the KKM barrel.
I'll look into it.
You can start from the front just pull upwards a little on the back of the slide. Doesn’t take much force at all
Thanks
Can you swap the spring from the Gen 4?
Would you recommend one way or the other?
Thanks
No to the spring.
Gen4 with a kkm barrel for me.
And I prefer g40 over g20
Looking at a 20 only after testing out the hipoint jxp. Just testing the 10 mm out first,
The 20 is a good gun
Excellent review on an awesome 10mm. Store a slice of cheese between the upper and lower. Snack time. Want this with the New GLOCK Enhanced Trigger to be installed by my friend an armourer/engineer.
Thanks for watching and the comment! Godspeed and good hunting
I know XDM shoots right out of the box and yes it states you're supposed to clean but no one ever does.
not no one... I almost always do. Several people in the comments always do.
I was hoping my KKM barrel in my G20.4 would fit in the eventual purchase of the G20.5 MOS. I think you've cleared that up for me. Looks like I will have to purchase another KKM barrel.
Yep. Me too
It may not go on as the safety plunger needs to be pressed down so the striker assy. can be moved to its' most forward position for the slide to go back on. My stock Gen 4 Glock 20 slide would not go on without the striker assy. in the most forward position, regardless of the stock or KKM barrel.
Has kkm started making more gen 5 barrels? The last I looked the selection was very small.
Probably not yet
My KKM barrel sucked
They even charged me shipping to send it back so they could "redo the barrel to work with underwoods"
And it STILL didn't work right lmfao
What a crock a chit
The reset is better on the gen 5; the entire trigger pull is slightly better actually, the gun is wayyyy better than the gen 4. Flared mag well, followers, front slides serrations, the nose is designed better, its lighter and shorter than the gen4. And no finger grooves, way better than the gen 4 also.
There are definitely some plusses for sure
When do you think KKM will have barrels available for the gen 5?
Probably a few months or more
I think Chuke limp-wristed his new gun id bet.
Chuck, you had made a comment when it came to feeding and jamming with his new gen 5 g 20, something about over spring either with the magazine or the gun or a combination which I never thought about. I'm wondering if you've ever had an opportunity to kind of dissect the issue of why so many Glock 43x and 48 have issues with Shield 15 magazines? So many people have issues with failure to feeds, me included.
I Shot many rounds, close to 1,000 through one magazine had no issue until one day in the cold Shot some high quality hollow points and then finally had my first issue. I know it wasn't the gun because it did it in my 43x mos and the 48 MOS. Would like to know your thoughts.... both guns were clean, ammo was sig 124gr hollow points and Hornady 124 grain defense ammo
Thanks
The shield mags just have weak springs. You put in slightly hotter ammo and the gun wasn't timed up.
What's a good aftermarket barrel? Been looking at kkm and lone wolf
The last two lone wolf barrels I bought had to be shipped back.
Kkm is the way to go
i dont knwo why some ppl hat feeding issues mine here in austria runs fine, and people who dont clean and lubricate the first ime i can not take serious
Agreed
Be cool to do a side by side of the barrels, feed ramps, and recoil springs to maybe show the differences.
I think i have a short like that
What's bad about the regular hardcast out of the stock barrel?
In the polygonal rifling lead that isn't hard enough will build up right at the start of the lands, causing pressure spikes.
Clean it and it'll usually run fine.
Also got load in noon fully supported chambers is a straight up bad idea
@@AlaskanBallistics thank you for the advice
@parathings you're welcome my friend!
Glock are still the most reliable pistols on the market.👊
Greetings from Brazil!
Generally Speaking Yes!
With it seemingly not taking gen4 barrels, it’s a huge put off for me. I personally don’t see the need to upgrade so I’ll be sticking to my gen4.
I feel the same way
Sometimes with new products there are initial problems that need to be overcone, improved upon.
So I think it is best to hold off on buying the Gen 5 Glocks in the 10mm caliber. As Glock needs to re-examine the Gen 5 model 20 design.
What is the name of those super Hard Cast bullets you reloaded?
How would you compare them to the Underwood 200/220 or Buffalo Bore Hard Cast Lead Outdoorsman rounds?
Ckbcastbullets dot com
I prefer them over buffalo bore or Underwood. 10.3 grs Blue dot
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Best Wishes
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Is that 180 gr load formula effective like Underwood or Buffalo Bore Hard Cast Lead rounds to stop Kill Bears?
I think so. The only rounds I've actually put through a grizzly bear head are 200gr handloaded hardcast from a .45 super
Does the Gen 5 feel smaller in hand then the Gen 4? I sold my 4 because it was just a little too big for my size small hands.
Just a hair. I've got small hands and don't care. Lol
You ever wonder if we damage fire arms shooting them in super cold temperatures?🤣
Sometimes.
Food for thought. You say on one hand the new glock can still be slimmer and also you shoot your gen 4 better. Well a small gen 4 is about the same grip size as the middle gen 5. You should try putting on the middle grip on the gen 5 and see if your shooting improves? You been shooting with the gen 4 so much you just ignore the inherent weaknesses of the gen 4 design. Youve already overcome them.
Maybe so.
Why can’t I see a gen5 20 on the website? Is this new?
Brand New. They're not officiant releasing until shot show but have already sent them to gun stores
I’m looking at getting a G20 but not 100% decided on which gen just yet. Found a really nice hardly used gen 3 NON SF with the nice (best IMO) frying pan slide coating that I’m considering buying but the grip is pretty big for my medium sized hands. I’ve considered the Gen 3 SF, gen4, and sort the gen 5. Particularly fond of the older gens. Not sure which to get. Great video tho! Helps narrow down my options!
Consider a g40. Easier to shoot and very reliable
I’ll have to check one out, thank you!
No problem. The forward heavy weight of the longer slide really makes it perfect to shoot. Not to mention more velocity, check out my g29 vs g20 vs g40 playlist
That makes sense. I’ll check those out too! Thanks again!
Better than it was but making it through 1 mag of the same ammo I wouldn't call it reliable. It was brand new so if something was a little out of spec breaking it in would improve reliability. I've had over a dozen glocks 9mms run straight out of the box no cleaning no break in. When I got my 17 I shot 1000 rounds without cleaning straight out of the box. My 20s have always been perfect till you get around 600 ft lbs or over then the malfunctions start popping up. I would shoot a couple hundred rounds of the cheapest ammo I could find then clean it and try a couple hundred rounds of whatever your gonna carry for grizzly.
Maybe so.
Very nice. Saw chuke having numerous malfunctions putting the hard cast through it??? Problem solved??????
Clean and not limpwristing
watch out with too tight a chamber support can eventually cause your extractor to go from the back side (not the claw side). KKM's are good but they are not far from being tight enough to cause that. Always do the plunk test. Should be able to freely rotate the bullet inside the chamber, and bullet should be able to freely fall if you hold the barrel upside down.
Yep. Almost right enough to cause that sounds about right then.
KKMs suck dude
@Gorilla Pimp you're the only one I've ever heard of having this experience.
@@AlaskanBallistics
Yeah so i hear
All i know is i tried so hard to get it to run right
Lotta money
Different springs
Round after round
They had me send the kkm barrel back to have them "redo it so it can work with underwoods"
(That's literally what the guy at kkm told me)
Really concentrating on my grip
Etc etc
Idk maybe just bad luck or a lemon idk but just so happy to be rid of it
Was so disappointed
What model did you try a kkm in?
Have you seen the g9 woodsman ammo? Just seen them at a local shop supposed to penetrate really well
Yes chuke and i did a video b with them in it.
Why were you thinking the Underwood coated hard cast might cause a jam at the end ?
Because chuke had Jams with it the week before
More the weight of the bullet and its wide
Do you use an aftermarket barrel for hardcast?
If I'm going to shoot large quanities, yes.
Any full power load, i like the better chamber support of the KKM barrel. Stay away from lone wolf
Great video Chuck. I think I’m going for Gen 4. Bells and whistles aside reliability is paramount and kkm barrel is all but automatic.
You mentioned the G40 instead of the G20 is that solely because the optics mount or are there other factors?
Again great video Thank You!!! SemperFi and God Bless
The g40 gain 90 fps to 160 fps over the g20, usually. The g40's long slide makes it front heavy for taking out the recoil. The g40 has a better trigger with their 3.5lb disconnector spring in it.
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I think that pin is just an extra replacement pin incase you lose the other one. My g45 came with one
Good to know
Its for the back straps, they add thickness to the grip so you need a longer pin.
How many rounds through the gun so far?
About 300 or so
It kind of sounds like the design needs some tweaking in regards to extra blowback. This is not normal from Glock and I hope they correct this before the possible release of the 29.5 and the 40.5
Agreed.
For some reason, it won't run 308.?
Lol 😆 🤣
Homer Simpson to Chuke "Doh!!!"
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The 220 Underwood hardcast your running will do fine with 0 fouling in Gen4 Glocks. I have 100+ through a Gen4 40MOS. The red coating they use is phenomenal.
I tried one of these at the range. It was spitting crap from the chamber around the ejection port area as what you stated and I saw on some of your shots. I decided to go with S&W M&P 2.0 4" model. A full Benjamin less out the door with another Benny as a factory rebate. Only has 2 mags. Ok. Has better sights, all around better ergos, a trigger I'm still hoping changes (for the better with use), and is a bit smaller all around. Yeah, it loses .49" in barrel. I figure that to about 20fps from standard 180gr fodder.
I really wanted the G20MOS. Just looks like they (uncharacteristically) got it wrong by a bit.
Good presentation.
Thank you. Enjoy your s&w. They can be picky
220 underwoods were horrible in MY g20
Couldn't even get through ONE full mag without jams lmfao
220gr isn't reliable feeding on many guns. 200gr or less.
Gen 3 glock 20 forever
The one i had was terrible. Bad extractor
@@AlaskanBallistics interesting. The only issue I've had is buffalo bore leading my barrel.
Well...just ordered one since Eagle River Gun Cache didn't message me back about the one they had in stock.
Yeah he's got only one guy working most of the time
@@AlaskanBallistics true. I just had my twins too, so it's hard to stay gone for too long.
That pin is for the backstraps so ya if hes gonna change the backstrap he's probably going to need it.
Look! In the brush! There is a big grizz counting your shots!
LoL maybe so