Your cold steam system once complete will revolutionize home power because it will give people option for pretty much any fuel for max operation at lowest cost of fuel. People need to recognize that.
You left out a real test Run it under heavy load. Use up 4500 wats out of the 5000 wats you have to see how the Tesla will or will not produce continues power generation. If not your only playing. Start your recording after placing your camera or cell phone horizontally.
Add a centrifugal clutch and a a couple more gears to bring the rooms down and add torque behind the spin when a load is added it will become harder to spin this may be helpful just an idea for you . Great job tho really looks like a great build
Seems u run on air, if u run on steam, I think u get more torque. I dreamed about a solar array that created steam that drives an teslaturbine and it also had a stirling as a second phase, and a waterheater, to power my house.
Ingenious tesla apply power to the outside of the wheel instead of center what if u take the exhaust and feed it into ur compressor more speed exhausting into vacuum
All this tesla experiments on youtube are fascinating to watch and play with however it is not practical in real world as it requires a lot of energy input plus the noise poluition on top of that. Solar power as well as liquid air battery are the real tecnology at present. Thanks for sharing the video anyway!
Solar power is less than 7 percent in the visible spectrum, making photo solar worthless. In fact, it requires more energy to produce a solar panel than it is ever capable of replacing back into the grid. 93% of all energy hitting the earth is in fact in the nonvisible spectrum and highly concetrated in the infrared area. If we want to produce power from solar energy, solar thermal is the only viable ulternative and it could easilt replace all fossil fuels. But it is more complex to accomplish and we would rather import coal from China in the form of highly subsidized solar panels....... because people have bought into this rediculous stupidity. Thanks for your comment anyway!
No one has done that yet, and not only that, no one has run a single stable one. I've seen nothing but pumps made of the TT. Just pet projects when it comes to producing power!
That will never work. a Tesla turbine needs something like 30K rpm to be 97% efficient. to do what you asked would be over unity and since physics says u cant ever get more power than you put it,it will never work. there is bearing friction,disc friction etc. compressor losses,power losses etc. In this example there seems to be no load on the generator so its doing no real work or else rpm would fall quite a bit. None of these examples on youtube are practicle real word use.
Heat extraction from compressors can achieve more than 108% regularily just in caloric value. This does not even account for the compressed air as having any value as stored energy in the form of potential pressure that can be used to accomplish further work. Just so you know, 70F air with at 99% RH has 60.86 KJ/KG while 135F air at 1% humidity only contains 60.4 KJ/KG. These are irrefutable facts that prove you know nothing about what you just stated. Latent heat of water vapor is where the real source of waste heat is stored. It can be converted into sensible heat with compression. Not to mention that RPM has no meaning without knowing the diameter of the item being spun. A 1 inch diameter toy spinning at 100,000 RPM has an outer edge speed of 297 MPH. This same tubine has a video of us running it at 6350 RPM with a 22 inch diameter. That is 415 mph. And this has nothing to do with efficiency. Tesla turbines have never been 97% efficient. And they do not have to be. Even a simple heat pump has COP ratios of 4, 5, or 6 times the input of electricity to output of useful heat. Heat that can be converted into electricity with efficiency conversion rates as low as 25% and still exceed the input of the cost of compression. You sir are just woefully in error.
@@ourhouseisfull11 I've never seen someone school a man so hard....and I dont understand a word of how he did....but i instinctively i know that he did school him hard.
The generator looks like a 240/460-volt induction motor, sounds like one too. The wiring should be at the end opposite the input shaft where brushes would be for the windings on the armature. When you do hook it up to something to measure the power it makes, you'll get about 240 volts at less than 7 amps, I saw another guy running his with a piston steam engine.
Don,,, I have been wondering about something that perhaps you may have already considered. Tesla's concept seems to be mostly looked at on the internet by the "laymans" as speed. Everywhere I look on-line back yard engineers are jerking off to high speed they develop with out load. You are one of the very few exceptions I have come across that applies useful load. SO let me throw something out there for you to chew on. All these Tesla mock ups enter gas (steam or compressed air) into the top of the rotor assembly and the gas works its way down exiting the center of the rotor area developing pressure on the plates with centrifugal force magnifying the development of pressure which translates into higher speeds. What if we applied the exact opposite to the same or similar engine. Input the steam or air into the center and allow it to travel up and out the top... Would we lose speed but gain torque as the gas finds the spot in the blades to transfer its energy higher up on the blades? I have been looking at some different blade designs that would be more attractive for gaining torque and this thought came to mind. Would be interested in your thoughts of "If we could engineer the engine to accept reverse flow (from center to top) would we lose speed but gain torque??
I am convinced that the Tesla Turbine is effectively just a kinetic energy catching machine. I also have evidence that the steam does not spiral around in a compression wave like most video representations or computer simulated animations. The air entering or leaving will generally find the shortest distance and follow the path of least resistance towards whatever exit you allow it to find. This will generally be the closest and largest opening between the incoming and outgoing air or steam. If you blow high pressure steam into the center of the turbine almost no rotation occurs. In fact the casing becomes pressurized and if not rated to contain the pressure can fail explosively. Speed must be low pressure by definition in accordance with Bernoulli's principle. High pressure indicates low speed or stagnation conditions. This is generally opposite of what most people think. I am fully convinced that Tesla Turbine is just a flat plate impulse turbine. In fact, reducing the plate surface area and increasing the diameter has been shown to have a better efficiency relative to the volume of air used. Thus a 15 bladed 8 inch diameter turbine has less efficiency than a 22 inch diameter turbine with just 4 blades all other things being equal. If viscosity was the primary consideration, then this should not be possible..... but it is factual. I know of no one else that is building these units for the last 10 years out of anything potentially viable for commercial use or experimentation other than what we have done in the last decade. If i slam a high speed jet of air or steam at the outer periphery of any shaped object, there is a transfer of energy. The greater the diameter and the closer to 50% of the rotational speed of the object in relationship to the air stream, the greater the amount of energy is transferred and the higher the efficiency becomes. This is exactly what we expect from an impulse turbine. In example, a car at rest is hit by the same car at 50 mph. The result is they both move forward at 25 mph. A car at 25 mph is hit by the same car at 50 mph. The result is they both move forward at 37.5 mph. Or a car at 49 mph is hit by a car at 50 mph. The result is they both move forward at 49.5 mph. Subtracting the input from the output we get 25, 12.5 , and .5 respectively. Steam or air exiting an orifice of a converging nature limits speed to the local mach number for that pressure and temperature. This is roughly going to be in the 1100 feet per second range. Therefore a Tesla Turbine speed is going to find greatest efficiency in the 550 feet per second range and will lose increasing greater amounts of torque as we approach parity in speed. I suspect that Tesla was using a converging diverging nozzle to exceed chocked flow of a converging or laminar flow system. I do not believe the Tesla Turbine is a laminar flow machine. Therefore everyone who succeeds in duplicating a laminar flow input gets the desired result of the patent holder....... they fail! Only the exit of a Tesla Turbine is laminar flow. The periphery must be turbulent high speed kinetic full expansion of whatever fluid you are using. Full expansion of all energy in a CD nozzle can achieve 60% to 70% efficient extraction of latent and sensible heat sources within the fluid and that substantially below atmospheric local conditions. This allows supersonic flow of kinetic energy and immediate capture of this extremely fast moving but extremely low density flow to be transferred to the relatively slow moving plates. This has been my thesis and the background of my life"s work on the Tesla Turbine. I do not have the funding nor the time to work on these units continuously. It is a pity that Warren Rice was more interested in discrediting Tesla's patents than learning how highly educated engineers were deceived into acknowledging the great accomplishments of these initial machines. What Tesla patented and what the Massy Ferguson company built were not the same machines. He was using GDLV patented supersonic flow technologies without wanting to compensate him for the use is my belief. I apologize for the length of this dissertation, but i decided it was time to at least write down something for the sake of posterity in the face of stagnation speed on my projects. I am worried i may run out of time before i can successfully convince anyone due to financial and other issues i am struggling with. There are all kinds blissful idiots interested in the Telsa Turbine. But they never come close to duplication of his original machines built and tested by MF. God willing i will eventually provide a viable industrial unit for commercial use. At the moment, nobody is listening and nobody cares. Experimentation is necessary and in this day and age, unutilized. I am doing my best with what limited resourced i have. It has been a constant struggle but we are getting closer.
@@ourhouseisfull11 this long response of yours is very rich. We are making solar concentrators for private market. We'd like to explore the possibility of working with you on a note that we create the heat/steam and you create the utilization, usage of the heat/steam. We'd like if you could contact us as we cannot see your contacts here. We are two participants on our side aged 57 and 47 who have now completed our working prototype on the solar concentrator. We are building a 13.4 kiloWatt unit now. We are working under similar conditions it appears as yourself. We are self funded. However the possibilities of a collaboration could appear fruitful. Well. Email us on the address tesla@rain.yt and we can see what we can together...
ruclips.net/video/q3_wnLB8bn0/видео.html This is the same turbine running on steam and i have a few other of it running a generator on steam as well. I love working on these machines and testing out my theories. But it is a hobby i can not always afford. So i have limited progress in the last few years, but i have proven several of my theories and am convinced these were not a laminar flow technology but in fact used a C/D nozzle and high reynolds numbers well into turbulent flow. These machines can not produce torque in the laminar subsonic range. They are meant to be supersonic expansion impulse style turbines using a rocket nozzle. I beleive Tesla stole GDL patents and patented only his failures.
it comes to a near halt because its all fake. if it was real power companies would have been using it for the last 100 years instead of actual turbines
I agree with you completely. But i am more impressed with the impulse turbines. They are far more efficient. Tesla was a genius and what he patented spins and spins fast. But it is my opinion that it is little more than a flywheel. What he patented and what he tested with steam during the trials was not what he claimed he patented. This is my opinion after 3 years of building large scale tesla models in accordance with his patents. They are a lie used to obscure the truth of his actual impulse turbine design. I am convinced there is a connection between his one way check valve and the version of his tesla turbine. I feel he created a spinning version of this check valve system on the outside of a rotating disc. creating a round hydraulic moving steam cylinder.
Can you explain in a little more detail how you believe Tesla's check valve and turbine? A round hydraulic moving steam cylinder sounds VERY interesting! To to re-cap, you don't think the Tesla Turbine is efficient? I'm been strongly thinking about building a Tesla turbine to get energy off a pulse detonation system I've been perfecting. The reason why I'm strongly edging towards a Tesla style turbine is because it can withstand the internal combustion gas/steam hybrid system and the pulse detonations along with its extreme durability. However, it sounds like you have a better understanding of this turbine and I would love to see if you have any better idea's about this.
Tesla did not exist. Google images search Nikola Tesla, and you will see there is only like 1 picture of him, copied and pasted over and over. He was a character, hoax, or actor. Einstein was also an actor and disinfo agent shill. Nothing we were taught was real.
If you built six of these and all six turned the same set of gear which then turns the shaft you might get enough torque. One might possibly stabilize the energy output using a couple of counter spinning flywheels and a clutch system. It's totally doable
Great job for generating 5kVA electricity... But there are some question bothering me... 1. How much the air compressor energy consumption??? 10kVA...??? 2. Is there any meaning to run generator as fast as you can? If yes, do you know about generator phases & electrical frequency?
His generator is not wired. So it has no real load on it. Therefore his claim of 5kva is bs at best. Because with out knowing the voltage, amps, and power factor than there is no way of proving his claim. Under perfect conditions than 5kva could equal 5kw. But very few things in the world have a true power factor of 1.
@@joshuanorris9785 seeing as the guy is using an inductance motor. It would require a great number of extra parts just to get it to generate anything at all. To be honest, under load, I wouldn't expect much more than 1.5kw. The biggest problem I see is that the generator is going to be over spun (spin to fast) by the speed of the Tesla turbine. Which is going to be like putting a ring magnet around a coil of wire. It will generate nothing at that point.
Micro Tesla Turbine 210W, if it is interesting: Production and the first start - ruclips.net/video/Swi3qO-1e1M/видео.html The full test of power - ruclips.net/video/dwasDCx8jOI/видео.html
You obviously spend some time on it and it looks like you've done a good job fabricating it but unfortunately the kind of power it would take to drive that generator would bring your bladeless turbine up to speed a lot faster then it does in this video.
The gyroscopic forces associated with a thin spinning disk at these speeds causes very little forces against the bearing surfaces. Similar to a spinning bicycle wheel, the gyroscopic force is supporting the spinning disk, not the bearing. You can balance a spinning bicycle wheel on one finger at the bearing. I am certain you have seen this demonstration before. ruclips.net/video/q3_wnLB8bn0/видео.html Here it is at 6300 RPM with live steam.
larger diameter gives more torque but also higher risk of exploding and causing severe injury. Tesla recommended around 9" max diameter for the turbine and 12" diameter for the pump stage if you use a dual stage. If you know how to use gears you realize that high rpm can be translated to more torque with the right gear ratio. larger diameter discs tend to do a lot of damage if they explode.
Is it possible to make that drive it's own air? I think the man was a genius myself. We use everything he found through all his research and more. I'm working on induction and self sustaining. I believe I found how to avoid blowing the entire system. Soon as I get some bugs worked out I'll definitely upload it. Maybe someone can help us all find the secret to cheap reliable energy..
The secret is in the schematics for the tesla coil. look at the schematic for the tesla coil and then understand that the system is working in reverse. remove the power supply and move the diode to the other side of the circuit then put the emitter at the top of a 50 foot tower and it collects electricity from the atmosphere. be careful. it produces megawatts of power.
no ideally youd have just under half a millimeter gap between disks. I forget the ideal gap but Jeremiah who posted above has done extensive testing on these turbines and I'm sure he'd know right off hand.
the air compressor is just for testing. this turbine runs on any viscous fluid. most people run them on steam. the marvel is displayed on jeremiah's channel. he posted a comment in here above if you want to find his channel where he's running the same type of turbine but dual stage in a closed loop system under vacuum. It's incredible how water turns to steam at a much lower temperature if it's under vacuum. stop being such a naysayer. it's disgusting. instead try opening your mind to possibilities.
I see a belt-drive on those machines, not chain, a chain-drive would not be practical for RPMs this high because of centrifugal force. He's got something going on, probably getting the turbine mounted for that task, I think he got taken on that generator though.
the maximum rpm of these turbines is determined by the tolerances of the bearings used as well as the diameter and thickness of the discs. I recommend keeping it under 30,000 rpm. or at least using extremely thick casing and testing it from behind a good blast shield. when they blow up they can do a lot of damage when they're that big.
hi , i'm new to this , but i aim to make a 12 volt power plant ! Using a turbine and steam ... now my question : would it be able to drive a water pump and a car alternator , (Trying to figure out the size of the turbine ) and how much water does it use to maintain the steam ( how big of a boiler would it need to run for example an our without refilling or condenser system.) i maybe asking stupid questions but i really like to get in to this and could use the help
Actually, on steam this was capable of running a 5 hp grid tied induction motor overspeed, thus, turning it into a generator of same capacity. Your assumptions are based on your own imaginations and prejudices instead of actual data, much of which has been presented in video format that allows certain calculations to be observed and verified with mathematical precision.
The sound is so sweet!!! I love it!! EXHILARATING!
Your cold steam system once complete will revolutionize home power because it will give people option for pretty much any fuel for max operation at lowest cost of fuel. People need to recognize that.
@@MrQuick999 thank you! And it's crazy how many people think the Tesla turbine is not practical haha
What a beast , I wouldn't want to be in the area if the beast overclocks and throws a wobbly. .
How can this be “full load” when there is zero load connected to the generator?
electric generator is a load. try turning a 5kva generator by hand and see.
You left out a real test
Run it under heavy load.
Use up 4500 wats out of the
5000 wats you have to see how the Tesla will or will not produce continues power generation.
If not your only playing.
Start your recording after placing your camera or cell phone horizontally.
I would also be interested to see this setup under heavy load. Thats the only real way to test any generator.
I was waiting for someone to say how much juice they were getting
where is the load???
So nice 😊 bigger is better,. Ow you don't have to go so fast as al the Tiny turbines Does 👌👍🔥 I also love your gasification boiler very much
Add a centrifugal clutch and a a couple more gears to bring the rooms down and add torque behind the spin when a load is added it will become harder to spin this may be helpful just an idea for you . Great job tho really looks like a great build
This could very well solve a few problems
WOW...the tesla turbine is capable of producing gravity at right angles to that of Earth! Fascinating!!!
It is scary too
Exhaust holes should be way larger, but still awesome!
Your cad designs call for a smaller diameter turbine on your website. How close are you to the original 1lb to 1 hp models?
Love your project too Jeremiah!
Seems u run on air, if u run on steam, I think u get more torque. I dreamed about a solar array that created steam that drives an teslaturbine and it also had a stirling as a second phase, and a waterheater, to power my house.
Ingenious tesla apply power to the outside of the wheel instead of center what if u take the exhaust and feed it into ur compressor more speed exhausting into vacuum
The larger the disks the more mass, the more torque !! Tesla's Niagra falls power plant had 6 ft dia. disks!!
TheDave570 hi, I'm making a turbine to run a 10kva alternator, whats the diameter of disk do you advise me?
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why there is no loading at the generator side. at least it need to prove it can pull some house hold electricity
All this tesla experiments on youtube are fascinating to watch and play with however it is not practical in real world as it requires a lot of energy input plus the noise poluition on top of that. Solar power as well as liquid air battery are the real tecnology at present.
Thanks for sharing the video anyway!
Solar power is less than 7 percent in the visible spectrum, making photo solar worthless. In fact, it requires more energy to produce a solar panel than it is ever capable of replacing back into the grid. 93% of all energy hitting the earth is in fact in the nonvisible spectrum and highly concetrated in the infrared area. If we want to produce power from solar energy, solar thermal is the only viable ulternative and it could easilt replace all fossil fuels. But it is more complex to accomplish and we would rather import coal from China in the form of highly subsidized solar panels....... because people have bought into this rediculous stupidity. Thanks for your comment anyway!
@@ourhouseisfull11 When you fact check that and get 42.3% solar energy in visible, your other claims aren't so convincing.
@@DavenH he means the energy is this high % in kw/m2 in the invisible spectrum this is where the powe is 😅
Great job!
What an inertia!
I want to see if it's possible to make a tesla turbine that can provide enough energy to run its own air compressor and power a house.
No one has done that yet, and not only that, no one has run a single stable one.
I've seen nothing but pumps made of the TT.
Just pet projects when it comes to producing power!
That will never work. a Tesla turbine needs something like 30K rpm to be 97% efficient. to do what you asked would be over unity and since physics says u cant ever get more power than you put it,it will never work. there is bearing friction,disc friction etc. compressor losses,power losses etc. In this example there seems to be no load on the generator so its doing no real work or else rpm would fall quite a bit. None of these examples on youtube are practicle real word use.
Heat extraction from compressors can achieve more than 108% regularily just in caloric value. This does not even account for the compressed air as having any value as stored energy in the form of potential pressure that can be used to accomplish further work. Just so you know, 70F air with at 99% RH has 60.86 KJ/KG while 135F air at 1% humidity only contains 60.4 KJ/KG. These are irrefutable facts that prove you know nothing about what you just stated. Latent heat of water vapor is where the real source of waste heat is stored. It can be converted into sensible heat with compression. Not to mention that RPM has no meaning without knowing the diameter of the item being spun. A 1 inch diameter toy spinning at 100,000 RPM has an outer edge speed of 297 MPH. This same tubine has a video of us running it at 6350 RPM with a 22 inch diameter. That is 415 mph. And this has nothing to do with efficiency. Tesla turbines have never been 97% efficient. And they do not have to be. Even a simple heat pump has COP ratios of 4, 5, or 6 times the input of electricity to output of useful heat. Heat that can be converted into electricity with efficiency conversion rates as low as 25% and still exceed the input of the cost of compression. You sir are just woefully in error.
@@ourhouseisfull11 I subscribed and look forward to more videos
@@ourhouseisfull11 I've never seen someone school a man so hard....and I dont understand a word of how he did....but i instinctively i know that he did school him hard.
The generator looks like a 240/460-volt induction motor, sounds like one too. The wiring should be at the end opposite the input shaft where brushes would be for the windings on the armature. When you do hook it up to something to measure the power it makes, you'll get about 240 volts at less than 7 amps, I saw another guy running his with a piston steam engine.
Don,,, I have been wondering about something that perhaps you may have already considered. Tesla's concept seems to be mostly looked at on the internet by the "laymans" as speed. Everywhere I look on-line back yard engineers are jerking off to high speed they develop with out load. You are one of the very few exceptions I have come across that applies useful load. SO let me throw something out there for you to chew on. All these Tesla mock ups enter gas (steam or compressed air) into the top of the rotor assembly and the gas works its way down exiting the center of the rotor area developing pressure on the plates with centrifugal force magnifying the development of pressure which translates into higher speeds. What if we applied the exact opposite to the same or similar engine. Input the steam or air into the center and allow it to travel up and out the top... Would we lose speed but gain torque as the gas finds the spot in the blades to transfer its energy higher up on the blades? I have been looking at some different blade designs that would be more attractive for gaining torque and this thought came to mind. Would be interested in your thoughts of "If we could engineer the engine to accept reverse flow (from center to top) would we lose speed but gain torque??
I am convinced that the Tesla Turbine is effectively just a kinetic energy catching machine. I also have evidence that the steam does not spiral around in a compression wave like most video representations or computer simulated animations. The air entering or leaving will generally find the shortest distance and follow the path of least resistance towards whatever exit you allow it to find. This will generally be the closest and largest opening between the incoming and outgoing air or steam. If you blow high pressure steam into the center of the turbine almost no rotation occurs. In fact the casing becomes pressurized and if not rated to contain the pressure can fail explosively. Speed must be low pressure by definition in accordance with Bernoulli's principle. High pressure indicates low speed or stagnation conditions. This is generally opposite of what most people think.
I am fully convinced that Tesla Turbine is just a flat plate impulse turbine. In fact, reducing the plate surface area and increasing the diameter has been shown to have a better efficiency relative to the volume of air used. Thus a 15 bladed 8 inch diameter turbine has less efficiency than a 22 inch diameter turbine with just 4 blades all other things being equal. If viscosity was the primary consideration, then this should not be possible..... but it is factual. I know of no one else that is building these units for the last 10 years out of anything potentially viable for commercial use or experimentation other than what we have done in the last decade.
If i slam a high speed jet of air or steam at the outer periphery of any shaped object, there is a transfer of energy. The greater the diameter and the closer to 50% of the rotational speed of the object in relationship to the air stream, the greater the amount of energy is transferred and the higher the efficiency becomes. This is exactly what we expect from an impulse turbine. In example, a car at rest is hit by the same car at 50 mph. The result is they both move forward at 25 mph. A car at 25 mph is hit by the same car at 50 mph. The result is they both move forward at 37.5 mph. Or a car at 49 mph is hit by a car at 50 mph. The result is they both move forward at 49.5 mph. Subtracting the input from the output we get 25, 12.5 , and .5 respectively. Steam or air exiting an orifice of a converging nature limits speed to the local mach number for that pressure and temperature. This is roughly going to be in the 1100 feet per second range. Therefore a Tesla Turbine speed is going to find greatest efficiency in the 550 feet per second range and will lose increasing greater amounts of torque as we approach parity in speed.
I suspect that Tesla was using a converging diverging nozzle to exceed chocked flow of a converging or laminar flow system. I do not believe the Tesla Turbine is a laminar flow machine. Therefore everyone who succeeds in duplicating a laminar flow input gets the desired result of the patent holder....... they fail! Only the exit of a Tesla Turbine is laminar flow. The periphery must be turbulent high speed kinetic full expansion of whatever fluid you are using. Full expansion of all energy in a CD nozzle can achieve 60% to 70% efficient extraction of latent and sensible heat sources within the fluid and that substantially below atmospheric local conditions. This allows supersonic flow of kinetic energy and immediate capture of this extremely fast moving but extremely low density flow to be transferred to the relatively slow moving plates. This has been my thesis and the background of my life"s work on the Tesla Turbine. I do not have the funding nor the time to work on these units continuously. It is a pity that Warren Rice was more interested in discrediting Tesla's patents than learning how highly educated engineers were deceived into acknowledging the great accomplishments of these initial machines. What Tesla patented and what the Massy Ferguson company built were not the same machines. He was using GDLV patented supersonic flow technologies without wanting to compensate him for the use is my belief.
I apologize for the length of this dissertation, but i decided it was time to at least write down something for the sake of posterity in the face of stagnation speed on my projects. I am worried i may run out of time before i can successfully convince anyone due to financial and other issues i am struggling with. There are all kinds blissful idiots interested in the Telsa Turbine. But they never come close to duplication of his original machines built and tested by MF. God willing i will eventually provide a viable industrial unit for commercial use. At the moment, nobody is listening and nobody cares. Experimentation is necessary and in this day and age, unutilized. I am doing my best with what limited resourced i have. It has been a constant struggle but we are getting closer.
@@ourhouseisfull11 this long response of yours is very rich. We are making solar concentrators for private market. We'd like to explore the possibility of working with you on a note that we create the heat/steam and you create the utilization, usage of the heat/steam. We'd like if you could contact us as we cannot see your contacts here. We are two participants on our side aged 57 and 47 who have now completed our working prototype on the solar concentrator. We are building a 13.4 kiloWatt unit now. We are working under similar conditions it appears as yourself. We are self funded. However the possibilities of a collaboration could appear fruitful. Well. Email us on the address tesla@rain.yt and we can see what we can together...
Useful load? There's a small amount of inertia in driving the motor, but inertia isn't load.
@@DavenH Inertia is potential work and ability to pick up load. I was just throwing an idea out there. I havent put this into practice like you have.
Turbo Tesla. 👍
Very nice,but how much kv you need to produce the compressed air to run your tesla turbine?????!!!!
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How about the load.spining that generator without a load is like spinning nothing if it has gained an enertia.
great job !
Water or Airlines presure?.
Very inspiring and encouraging. Did you have any load on the generator? Or was it just a rotation test today?
I think he answered that at 0:43, although I can’t say I’m 100% sure since I don’t see anything hooked up
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This is the same turbine running on steam and i have a few other of it running a generator on steam as well. I love working on these machines and testing out my theories. But it is a hobby i can not always afford. So i have limited progress in the last few years, but i have proven several of my theories and am convinced these were not a laminar flow technology but in fact used a C/D nozzle and high reynolds numbers well into turbulent flow. These machines can not produce torque in the laminar subsonic range. They are meant to be supersonic expansion impulse style turbines using a rocket nozzle. I beleive Tesla stole GDL patents and patented only his failures.
@@ourhouseisfull11 who/what is GDL?
It would be great with axial flux alternator
8:26 reminds me of Indian Jones: Temple of Doom.
Who gets it?
This seem's point less, No load, I know the turbine works! looking for power output, load ..
DON SCHMIDTKE is this type Tesla turbine electric generators can run with water?
Can you buy the turbine ?
what if you plug your compressor on the generator?
it comes to a near halt because its all fake. if it was real power companies would have been using it for the last 100 years instead of actual turbines
@@abialo2010 not fake. you ignorant.
It spins. So what? How about some actual load counts?
I agree with you completely. But i am more impressed with the impulse turbines. They are far more efficient. Tesla was a genius and what he patented spins and spins fast. But it is my opinion that it is little more than a flywheel. What he patented and what he tested with steam during the trials was not what he claimed he patented. This is my opinion after 3 years of building large scale tesla models in accordance with his patents. They are a lie used to obscure the truth of his actual impulse turbine design. I am convinced there is a connection between his one way check valve and the version of his tesla turbine. I feel he created a spinning version of this check valve system on the outside of a rotating disc. creating a round hydraulic moving steam cylinder.
Can you explain in a little more detail how you believe Tesla's check valve and turbine? A round hydraulic moving steam cylinder sounds VERY interesting!
To to re-cap, you don't think the Tesla Turbine is efficient?
I'm been strongly thinking about building a Tesla turbine to get energy off a pulse detonation system I've been perfecting. The reason why I'm strongly edging towards a Tesla style turbine is because it can withstand the internal combustion gas/steam hybrid system and the pulse detonations along with its extreme durability. However, it sounds like you have a better understanding of this turbine and I would love to see if you have any better idea's about this.
Tesla did not exist. Google images search Nikola Tesla, and you will see there is only like 1 picture of him, copied and pasted over and over. He was a character, hoax, or actor. Einstein was also an actor and disinfo agent shill. Nothing we were taught was real.
what did it look like?
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Very Cool! Going to use it in the power train of a car powered by compressed air?
ufoengines four years later did you get anywhere? I was thinking about using a tesla turbine combined with compressed natural gas.
If you built six of these and all six turned the same set of gear which then turns the shaft you might get enough torque. One might possibly stabilize the energy output using a couple of counter spinning flywheels and a clutch system. It's totally doable
Great job for generating 5kVA electricity... But there are some question bothering me...
1. How much the air compressor energy consumption??? 10kVA...???
2. Is there any meaning to run generator as fast as you can? If yes, do you know about generator phases & electrical frequency?
the only way to make this kind of thing useful is to run it off of waste energy. steam, exhuast, runoff
His generator is not wired. So it has no real load on it. Therefore his claim of 5kva is bs at best. Because with out knowing the voltage, amps, and power factor than there is no way of proving his claim. Under perfect conditions than 5kva could equal 5kw. But very few things in the world have a true power factor of 1.
@@derangedmetalworks9489 how many KW do you think this could produce?
@@joshuanorris9785 seeing as the guy is using an inductance motor. It would require a great number of extra parts just to get it to generate anything at all. To be honest, under load, I wouldn't expect much more than 1.5kw. The biggest problem I see is that the generator is going to be over spun (spin to fast) by the speed of the Tesla turbine. Which is going to be like putting a ring magnet around a coil of wire. It will generate nothing at that point.
@@derangedmetalworks9489 What would you suggest to compliment this system?
Micro Tesla Turbine 210W, if it is interesting:
Production and the first start - ruclips.net/video/Swi3qO-1e1M/видео.html
The full test of power - ruclips.net/video/dwasDCx8jOI/видео.html
what is the dia of the rotors? and the space between the rotors? what is the efficiency
Steve Forbin hi did you get an answer? I'm also wondering the same thing.. Also what's the psi needed
How come the picture is sideways?
Hi how much to buy tesla turbine
Thx
How much steam supply do you have available?
You obviously spend some time on it and it looks like you've done a good job fabricating it but unfortunately the kind of power it would take to drive that generator would bring your bladeless turbine up to speed a lot faster then it does in this video.
definitely risky, what if bearing fails, spinning disk would destruct the room, brave man !!
The gyroscopic forces associated with a thin spinning disk at these speeds causes very little forces against the bearing surfaces. Similar to a spinning bicycle wheel, the gyroscopic force is supporting the spinning disk, not the bearing. You can balance a spinning bicycle wheel on one finger at the bearing. I am certain you have seen this demonstration before. ruclips.net/video/q3_wnLB8bn0/видео.html Here it is at 6300 RPM with live steam.
Good i believe ;)
the disk could pull itself apart but the casing would probably give out first....not at those slow speeds though
No load???
Seems like a waste of time.
Hi I'm making a turbine as well, I noticed that your disk are large, does the size of the disk matters?
yess. larger disk means more mass, more torque .
Yes more torque = its important for heavey load generator
larger diameter gives more torque but also higher risk of exploding and causing severe injury. Tesla recommended around 9" max diameter for the turbine and 12" diameter for the pump stage if you use a dual stage. If you know how to use gears you realize that high rpm can be translated to more torque with the right gear ratio. larger diameter discs tend to do a lot of damage if they explode.
When does the 5KVA happen?
Whats the air consumption
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Is it possible to make that drive it's own air? I think the man was a genius myself. We use everything he found through all his research and more.
I'm working on induction and self sustaining. I believe I found how to avoid blowing the entire system. Soon as I get some bugs worked out I'll definitely upload it. Maybe someone can help us all find the secret to cheap reliable energy..
The secret is in the schematics for the tesla coil. look at the schematic for the tesla coil and then understand that the system is working in reverse. remove the power supply and move the diode to the other side of the circuit then put the emitter at the top of a 50 foot tower and it collects electricity from the atmosphere. be careful. it produces megawatts of power.
Too bad the picture is sideways.
what it is gap for 2 disk ?
gap is 1.6 mm ideal
no ideally youd have just under half a millimeter gap between disks. I forget the ideal gap but Jeremiah who posted above has done extensive testing on these turbines and I'm sure he'd know right off hand.
Pl show load efficiency
Use a electric motor to operate an air compressor to operate a turbine to power a generator ! What a marvel of engineering .
the air compressor is just for testing. this turbine runs on any viscous fluid. most people run them on steam. the marvel is displayed on jeremiah's channel. he posted a comment in here above if you want to find his channel where he's running the same type of turbine but dual stage in a closed loop system under vacuum. It's incredible how water turns to steam at a much lower temperature if it's under vacuum. stop being such a naysayer. it's disgusting. instead try opening your mind to possibilities.
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Tesla turbine on a chain... generator with no load... what exactly is the point of this setup? blowing air?
Plugged in, generating electricity, under full load, grid tied. This is just a test with compressed air. ruclips.net/video/aR50ZbKisek/видео.html
I see a belt-drive on those machines, not chain, a chain-drive would not be practical for RPMs this high because of centrifugal force. He's got something going on, probably getting the turbine mounted for that task, I think he got taken on that generator though.
without the generator sir, how much more rpm could it produced?
50-60K atleast
the maximum rpm of these turbines is determined by the tolerances of the bearings used as well as the diameter and thickness of the discs. I recommend keeping it under 30,000 rpm. or at least using extremely thick casing and testing it from behind a good blast shield. when they blow up they can do a lot of damage when they're that big.
hi , i'm new to this , but i aim to make a 12 volt power plant ! Using a turbine and steam ... now my question : would it be able to drive a water pump and a car alternator , (Trying to figure out the size of the turbine ) and how much water does it use to maintain the steam ( how big of a boiler would it need to run for example an our without refilling or condenser system.) i maybe asking stupid questions but i really like to get in to this and could use the help
ruclips.net/video/mrnul6ixX90/видео.html Just make some little updates on that thing. Vortex intake part.
What happens when you put a load on it?
This happens: ruclips.net/video/aR50ZbKisek/видео.html
it has a loaf on it 5kw gen
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put itload iwithout n a 5 kWh load Tesla stops
Actually, on steam this was capable of running a 5 hp grid tied induction motor overspeed, thus, turning it into a generator of same capacity. Your assumptions are based on your own imaginations and prejudices instead of actual data, much of which has been presented in video format that allows certain calculations to be observed and verified with mathematical precision.
whats the psi of air used
50 psi
@@ourhouseisfull11 What is the flow rate?
Wich is the imput energy vs output?
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