It def should have been called a rts 3040 even though the ts naming scheme hasn’t been used since 1st gen fermi gpus aka the 400 series and yes i know im old …
If you could get a 3050 6GB for 99-110 USD like the GTX 750 TI back in the day it would be the king of budget. These prices for what you get are horrible these days.
Yeah that's why I don't buy entry level anymore, I'd rather get my money's worth with mid range. Might cost more but it will last me a lot longer and perform better. Love my 3060Ti. Only bad thing is it's not a small case so I can't carry it around easily.
It can be forgiven for being a 75w card if you want an efficient HTPC or an optiplex stuck using 200w PSUs. Although i’d argue the Arc A310 would be even better value for HTPC.
But common sense aint that common, so the way things are marketed with a 50 instead of a 40 at the end of the model number tells those ppl it is the same and the sharrks who sell tech will rely on peoples ignorance as does Nvidia in this case
@@betag24cn The RX 6600 only consumes 100 watts so what are you talking about, its way more power efficient then the 3050 8GB. its the Intel GPUs that consume too much power you mean
@@betag24cnbro my 6600 beats this crappy 3050 8gb with just 100W, i undervolted mine to 1050mV, pushed it to 120W PL and memory to max 1900MHz, so it's even more better than you see the results on yt. With just an undervolt i got an increase of 10-20 fps throughout most of the titles (sometimes even more than 20 fps increase)
@@betag24cn6000 series does not report total board power on afterburner/amd software. 100w is like 120w in reality. 7000 series does report total board power though
We actually had a customer that requested our GT 740 4GB DDR5 back in the mid-2010s. They were running an old version of Flight Simulator and only needed the VRAM for whatever release they were flying on. This card reminds me of that, but with improper branding. 3040 definitely.
I remember my dad getting a GT 640 2GB back in 2014. He wanted a card that could support 4 monitors for work and that one was right in his budget(69 euros)
Its me rn 😂 I want to play very old titles,but need 6gb VRAM for some games (gothic 1,postal 2,hard truck apocalypse,insurgency sandstorm,squad,DCS World etc). So my config right now Ryzen 3 1200(i got a Ryzen 7 2700x in my drawer too) 2x4GB 2133mhz DDR4 ram RTX3050 GDDR6 6GB OC version A motherboard with PCIE 3.0 (maybe 4.0 if i need a better CPU/GPU combo) And thats all. Ohh and some SSD's
@@Boogie_the_cat am4 has tonnes of life still left for upgrading as you can work up to the ryzen 9 or the 5800x3d which will hold its own for another 5 plus years the 3050 is beaten by many cheaper alternatives
it's not a good time to be a budget gamer AND nvidia fan at the same time. rx 6600 costs around the same in my country and it's a much more powerful GPU.
If you're okay with going with used hardware there are some really great deals out there. 5700xt is the new 580, they go for about 150-170 and blows these cards away- I still have one that I bought new before the shortage/Covid and it still does everything I want. It's a bad time to be buying new though, that is for sure! If nVidia a 1080ti performs about the same, though it costs about 20 more (USD)
The rtx 3050 is a prime example of "too little, too late", I pay my respects for those newbies that thought buying one of these brand new for *that* price was the way to go
now that you mentions it tgats true! rtx 3050 with 6gb and rtx 3050ti for 8gb or alternatively rtx 3040 since its slower or less core, and its ti variant for more memory and higher bus with same core count and make 3050 with higher core count but less than that 3060 or 4060 with starting vram at 6gb and ti variant with 8gb
With those power constraints they could have just made a much cheaper, more cut down 3030 or something with a higher clock that would have achieved the same performance. They must have had awful yields and this was the only way to slough off the trash. GA107-325 has the identical core configuration as the 8GB GA106-150 OEM model, but about half the TDP and 400Mhz lower clock speed.
The low profile version I can see having a use for tiny case builds and/those with weak power supplies, but apart from that... It's good the option is there, but for the full size one I'm glad I already have a 2060 which looks the much better option. Glad to see you covering it honestly & fairly though!
The only time a 3050 is worth it is if it’s below $150. I scored a Gaming X 8GB version off the local market for $130, box and all, barely used, and it’s in my friend’s rig who uses a 1080p 75Hz monitor and does some light production work.
You should test this vs a low tdp 1650 to show the performance bump for the folk this is actually useful for. Also maybe give an idea of what the baseline cpu would bevto pair with this.
It's aimed at the higher powered ex-business PCs and the Acer Aspire XC range of PCs. It'd be a reasonable upgrade from a GTX 1650 LP 4Gb, like the one I have in an XC 885. I can run Train Sim World 4 @1440p with ~40fps so it's not yet obsolete.
The most ridiculous part of these "budget" cards is that you can't even use them to spruce up your old desktops. The reduced lanes will cripple the card in an older PCIe slot.
Ever do any voltage tuning? I wonder if a good undervolt on the 8 GB card could make it as thrifty as the 6 GB card without a loss in frames per second. Might help somebody with a sketchy GPU power adapter setup.
Good performance per watt, which also means less heat. Could see a 3050 6gb make a bit of sense in a 4 liter tiny sff case if you need things quiet. That said, I'm much more happy with my 4060 performance in one of those, and just use some headphones if I'm playing something where I am bothered by the moderate fan noise.
I wonder what will happen if you lower the TDP of the 3050/8 to match the value of the 6-gig card? And perhaps also apply some undervolting. I suppose, the older model should still win though, due to higher core count and memory bandwidth
I have both 3050's in ASUS dual fan guise. The 6gb I have paired with a Ryzen 5 1600 and it works very well. However, what I did notice is the sound coming from the card. It's louder than the 8gb, to the point that I've used MSI Afterburner to reduce the fan speed from 68% to 30-40%. Did you notice any differences in card noise?
That would depend on which manufacturer your card is. Different AIB manufacturers have choice of different fans, with various levels of "coil whine" He has a palit card and an Asus card. If you don't have those exact same cards, then comparing them with his cards is pointless. Different OEMs put different parts in their products. You can't just compare the 3050 8gb with the 3050 6gb unless your cards are from the same manufacturer.
I have been wanting this video for a long time, but for some reason I could never find a direct comparison. That's crazy because it was literally the main comparison I was interested in, like of course it makes sense to test it against something at a closer price point, but we already know the 6gb is going to be a massive disappointment anyways, so why not at least makethe comparison mildly entertaining. If you actually want a 3050 6gb you have an incredibly specific usefase in mind, and there's probably only two cards even worth thinking about for it, (This and the A380 meet some very specific "board powered, very limited implementation of modern technology" card niche) so there really isn't much point in comparing it on a price/performance level where it will lose to the vast majority of other cards.
It'd be interesting to see how this compares to other cards which don't require supplemental power. The newer 3050 seems like a good pick for an office prebuilt with a dodgy power supply upgrade.
There are a few laptops that I was interested in. They have RTX 2050 or RTX 3050, both have less ram at 4Gb. Could you consider making a video where the ram usage is less than 4GB?
I'm guessing this is more like what the 750ti(the later pci-e powered only version) was to the 1000 series than it is a to a (non pci-e powered) 1050ti? Is their a 1050ti equivalent in the 3000 or 4000 series? I can't think of a more powerful 3000 or 4000 only pci-e powered GPU 🤔
Congrats for one of the best gaming content on RUclips, specially coming from a brazilian, which resides on a dreadful market. You always have the most realistic and best analysis on budget components, without spitting shit about cheaper parts, but bringing the best performance per money results. Really helpful!
Wasn’t the 1660 Super $230 at release 5 years ago? Kind of wild that we basically haven’t gotten any improvement in this price tier this whole time from nvidia.
My local university surplus is selling Dell Optiplex with 8th and 9th i5s in them. The 3050 6gb would make for a perfect budget build with one of them.
Nice to see how well it handles Fallout 4. What a difference in performance compared to Starfield. I haven’t seen the new show since I don’t have Prime but I’ve been a fan of Fallout since 3 and have Fallout posters on my wall in my gaming room.
I think this is probably one of those products that will have a massive price drop in the future. It's also very common to see this on the cheaper phones' market, they are always released at a really high price that doesn't really make that much sense, but it quickly drops to be in line with the price of the older models, but with some technological advancement that actually makes it worth it. I just don't understand why the performance gap between the two is so big even though they still share the same 3050 name. But I think the 6gb model consuming about half the power and running also 10°c colder is a really good thing.
I need to examine the pricing. I'd need to see the prices to gauge the pro/con. There is a whole bunch of room for cheap mid range cards to fill if done right.
This GPU should be priced to replace the GT710 with a small price premium at around $99USD or similar imo. These should also be either ITX or low profile itx gpus as well.
The 6GB card's performance is unbelievably good, considering it's running on Motherboard-provided power only. The 8 GB card is not performing good enough, considering it is drawing nearly double the power of the 6GB one.
gtx 750, 750ti, 1050, 1050ti, 1650 were best seller considering you can add it in a grandma pc with a bad psu lol, not only for this reason ofc but buy a 60dollars, euros gtx 1050ti 4gb witch can run currently almost every games isn t a bad choice instead buy a 600 gaming pc. If u needn't 1080p 60fps to have fun lol. Maybe it ll be same here :) rx 6400 and arc a380 do nice the job but maybe this thing ll perform better :)
no way i have 3050 8gb vram asus daul and its good i dont think 3050 6gb is good for gaming high graphics card its like gtx 1650 ti same as rtx 3050 6gb
I remember when the GTX 1050 and 1050 ti we're around still. Exceptional cards and for a pretty cheap price. Now a days you have so many cards with the largest range of pricing options available, it makes you wonder why bother with 50 cards anymore and go strictly 60 and up. Not saying there isn't a place for these cards but when you consider you can get the 3060 and 4060 for $300 or a little more it makes you wonder.
I owned gtx 1060 3GB from 2018 to late 2023, and it wasn't that bad compared to 1060 6GB at launch and till long time till games became vram hungry more and more, but was good enough for 230$ when crypto made all other gpus price hike back then, but today its bad overall in this same naming gpus (btw i still have 1060 3GB collecting dust, only keeping it for troubleshooting if something happens to my 6700 XT cause now my ryzen cpu doesn't have igpu)
Hey, really enjoying your Vidoes. I am using the RTX 3050 6G in a sleeper build for LAN-Parties. Just wondering, have you noticed that with the current AMD drivers 24.x.x you cant play Fallout NV anymore. Its strait crashing when you want to load or start a game. Would love the see a video about it. Much love.
The only scenario when getting 3050 6GB makes sense is if you are upgrading old office PC, so you could "game" on it, or if you are making small ITX build that does have low power budget (example: has external laptop psu etc). Power supply only from PCIe slot with no other power connectors is the only reason one would want to buy this GPU, cuz it is still better than AMD APUs, especially if you compare APU + Expensive fast RAM vs CPU + 3050 GPU. Also, this GPU only makes sense in Low Profile variant.
If the price was right, it would make sense as an upgrade for my old Dell workstation that doesn't have any GPU power connectors, currently using a GTX 1650. Budget AMD cards don't use all the PCI lanes so they're no good in older systems and Intel more or less requires resizeable bar so I can't use them either. My daughters just got into Minecraft so I can see 1080p with ray tracing and some DLSS working nicely there. I got my 1650 from CeX for around £80 so it's gonna be a while before the upgrade becomes worth it.
The big thing about this is that it smokes the previous reigning champion budget low profile graphics card the GTX 1650. It also smokes it's closest low profile competitor the RX 6400. It also trades blows with the previous full on full stop champ of low profile no aux power the A2000. And though the A4000 smokes it, the A4000 is also like $800. And the 4060 requires aux power and is more than twice the price. The niche is small but it is here for the 6gb 3050.
G'day Random, After seeing the first few comparisons with the Difference at least 15% to exceeding 20%, how confusing it is now as some retailers are not highlighting the 6GB in the title & will be on the 2nd Hand Market in the future for the same reason, I too was thinking as it is too late to change the 8GB to 3050Ti this should have been a RTX3040/3040Ti. Don't know why the nVIDIA Naming Team didn't go with 3050Ti for the Higher Cuda Count 8GB at launch as the 3050 OEM had the same Cuda count as this 6GB & they were launched on the same day.
I’d like to see a comparison with the rx 6400 because that card also doesn’t use any external PCIe supplemental power and just runs off the 75 watts from the motherboard slot.
I still see myself buying the 6gb over the 8gb for the lack of power connector alone. It's really the only upside but at least it can turn a i7 8700 office pc into a 1080p rig for kinda cheap I guess
Power limits. The 6 GB tops at like 70W while the 8GB goes past 120W. No more juice left. If my 3060 is anything to go by, it should boost a bit higher with a well set undervolt and come closer to the 8GB version.
I own 3050 8gb already I bought mine as 2nd hand form CeX at 130 quid a year ago. Only reason - Looking for cheap card with CUDA cores to increase speed of video editing software as my old AMD card has none of these. And 3050 also consume half of power... I not gaming on this card anyway. So, low power, 130 quid, video editing "accererator" is good deal.
Would like to see more videos on AMD cards, many of them are much better price to performance wise compared to their Nvidia counterparts. The 3050 is absolutely not worth it at all where i live cause you can find brand new 6650XT's for similar or lower price, and on the used market you can find 6800XT's for even lower.
I guess it depends on your needs and the price you find it. If you are like me with a GTX860M (yes I know it's a laptop), even this GPU will run circles around it. Still, if you play older games and you find it no more than 150 euros, then it could work for you. Plus it would be a nice bump in other things than gaming, like video encoding etc.
Honestly if it can draw its power from the m/b then this occupies a unique place. Consider it an upgrade from the low power 1650 and it looks a lot better. Dell optiplexs can be supercharged with this
They drop $50 of the price of the 8gb model and $65 off the gb model and the price/perf might be there for media center/email pc with light gaming abilities. But at these prices you can get an rx 6600 that's better than both (the 8gb model could be fairly close in RT, but is that really relevant at this power level?)
Massive props for making this video as a way of keeping folks informed. The original 3050 was laughably bad given the sort of prices being asked for them, even without considering the AMD competitors which aside from being cheaper would literally smoke the 3050. It's one thing to have a 1050 Ti in the same ballpark price of something like a RX570 despite the latter also outperforming the former but those GPUs coexisted in an age were GPU pricing wasn't as outrageous as we've currently seen. The original 3050 without being gimped and having the VRAM buffer cutdown was bad enough, imagine having a gimped version of an already meh product... If the original 3050 was a 180 dollar card it would actually have been decent, oddly enough. But Nvidia being Nvidia that was never going to happen.
Nvidia should have called the RTX 3050 6GB an RTX 3040 or RTX 4040, but that would make too much sense. The 'new' RTX 3050 has use cases for lower power and/or low-profile needs.
So the 3050 6GB is 3/4s of the 3050 8GB wafer which is 2/3rds of the 3060 wafer which is 3/4s of the 3070 wafer, with the clocks turned down. I'd buy a used 2060 over both of these.
To me the 3050 6G only makes sense in two scenarios: with the Palit KalmX version so you have a totally quiet card or with low-power PCs you can use the 6G model without additional PCIe power. I'd still have preferred a name like 3040. It wouldn't have been the first x40-class card. The 3050 6G is pretty impressive when it comes to efficiency though. You're losing about 20% of the performance but the power consumption is falling much more.
Low power GPUs are luxury items, at least on what I see after all of these years of GPU releases. 1650 didn't have the best price for a low power GPU when it initially launched. 1050 Ti was the last best low power at launch and idk why they didn't follow up its success.
They remind me of the 1060 6gb and the 1060 3gb. I lucked out and scored a gaming laptop from MC for $360 (actually snagged 2 as I knew my adult son would want it) and it has the 3050 8gb and i5 11400H with 16gb ram. For that money, it was a big score.
Doesn't seem like a 'bad card' per-se, reduced performance balanced with reduced power consumption, heat, form-factor, and per-unit cost, just might not be as good value as the nvidia marketing team would like us to think - the con is mostly with the name/number, not the card itself which seems perfectly respectable.
I don't think that it's a bad card, but the price is too high (especially compared to the 8GB one) and it really angers me that it's also called a 3050 even though it's significantly worse than the 3050 8GB across the board (even in scenarios where you don't use more than 6GB of vram). Same as the 3060 8GB/12GB. To be honest I expected nothing better from Nvidia since they've done this kinda misleading crap plenty times in the past. "Yes we have this car model. You can get it with 3 or with 5 doors. I could also tell you that the three-door-version has a weaker engine, lower top speed, worse headlights, smaller tires and the range on one full tank of gas is less - but I am Nvidia and so I coose not to. And it's nearly the same price because of course it is and we only put the different amount of doors in the otherwise exact same name."
Can you compare these 2 3050’s vs the RTX 2060 in War Thunder at 1440p Maximum preset? I had an RTX 2070 laptop that was more akin to a Desktop 2060 in performance. When I was having no issues before the GPU died after 3 years of daily gaming at 95°C, I could easily run 1440p with frame rates between 80-120 FPS. I’d assume both 3050’s would run War Thunder at the same preset at 120+ FPS.
not everyone chase the performance, someone like me need low power gpu, to reduce the electricty bill, this rtx mybe for someone like me. low or med setting is fine as long the game run smoothly. if u see it only need 70watt to run without power cable, it is understanble they need to cut so the gpu can run smootly without needing much power
New dell optiplex with 13th gen intel cpu's have weaker psu's than older optiplexes with 6th gen intel. This makes the 3050 6gb ideal while the old method of 2x sata to 1x 8pin in new optiplex won't work anymore
6gb 3050 is what a $99-115 card should be in 2024. Budget GPU that can actually perform somewhat, so long as you don't demand above 1080/60/medium in most games. Pricing it where they did is crazy.
Rtx 3050 6gb only makes sense in a low profile build. I agree this should be have been called a Rtx 3040 or even Rtx 3030.
Yeah much better suited to a small efficient pc
It def should have been called a rts 3040 even though the ts naming scheme hasn’t been used since 1st gen fermi gpus aka the 400 series and yes i know im old …
@@Packriff4922 They could also pull a Pascal and just chop the X off. RT3030 doesn't sound too bad, but I would love to see the TS make a comeback.
i believe its the most powerful PCIE powered gpu
@@mx8719 your not wrong
If you could get a 3050 6GB for 99-110 USD like the GTX 750 TI back in the day it would be the king of budget. These prices for what you get are horrible these days.
Yeah that's why I don't buy entry level anymore, I'd rather get my money's worth with mid range. Might cost more but it will last me a lot longer and perform better. Love my 3060Ti. Only bad thing is it's not a small case so I can't carry it around easily.
3050 doesn't seem worth buying in both occasions...
It can be forgiven for being a 75w card if you want an efficient HTPC or an optiplex stuck using 200w PSUs. Although i’d argue the Arc A310 would be even better value for HTPC.
@@alltheotherhandlesaretaken don't even need that for htpc. 4gb of vram is plenty for that
😊@@alltheotherhandlesaretaken
3050 is such a slouch. Slower than 2060.
Its worth it when uhhhh...... When uhhhhhhh..... Nevermind. 😂
my dad once told me "new doesn't mean better", now I get it
Exactly :)
Ever notice people who say that, have their smiling significant other standing behind them (in the +10 Backstab position)?
@@Salvage1That's for when they say "nude doesn't mean better".
But common sense aint that common, so the way things are marketed with a 50 instead of a 40 at the end of the model number tells those ppl it is the same and the sharrks who sell tech will rely on peoples ignorance as does Nvidia in this case
They don't make them how they used to and they don't bin these chips like they used to.
Should be named the RTX 3040.
RT 3030
@@rofhima13 RT 3030 should be the 4gb 3050.
Well, this should be joke only.
R 3010 2gb
this makes the a750 and Rx 6600 even more goated
the problem with the rx is power consumption, if it is ok for you, this gpu will do nothibg for your build
@@betag24cn The RX 6600 only consumes 100 watts so what are you talking about, its way more power efficient then the 3050 8GB. its the Intel GPUs that consume too much power you mean
@@betag24cnbro my 6600 beats this crappy 3050 8gb with just 100W, i undervolted mine to 1050mV, pushed it to 120W PL and memory to max 1900MHz, so it's even more better than you see the results on yt. With just an undervolt i got an increase of 10-20 fps throughout most of the titles (sometimes even more than 20 fps increase)
@@prosecanlik4296 but if you dont want to use all that power, or have a power cable, that does not matter
@@betag24cn6000 series does not report total board power on afterburner/amd software. 100w is like 120w in reality.
7000 series does report total board power though
We actually had a customer that requested our GT 740 4GB DDR5 back in the mid-2010s. They were running an old version of Flight Simulator and only needed the VRAM for whatever release they were flying on.
This card reminds me of that, but with improper branding. 3040 definitely.
I remember my dad getting a GT 640 2GB back in 2014. He wanted a card that could support 4 monitors for work and that one was right in his budget(69 euros)
Its me rn 😂 I want to play very old titles,but need 6gb VRAM for some games (gothic 1,postal 2,hard truck apocalypse,insurgency sandstorm,squad,DCS World etc).
So my config right now
Ryzen 3 1200(i got a Ryzen 7 2700x in my drawer too)
2x4GB 2133mhz DDR4 ram
RTX3050 GDDR6 6GB OC version
A motherboard with PCIE 3.0 (maybe 4.0 if i need a better CPU/GPU combo)
And thats all. Ohh and some SSD's
NVIDIA: "They want budget? they'll get budget"
AMD doing the same with their CPUs.
Stop being a fanboy and you'll think more clearly.
@@Boogie_the_cat the only fanboy here is you homie why is you malding over someone calling out a corporation's bullshit 😂
@@Boogie_the_cat Sounds like you're the fanboy 🤔
@@Boogie_the_cat7500f, 5600x, 5700x3d not budget friendly cpus?
@@Boogie_the_cat am4 has tonnes of life still left for upgrading as you can work up to the ryzen 9 or the 5800x3d which will hold its own for another 5 plus years the 3050 is beaten by many cheaper alternatives
this proves the 6GB is much more efficient, however as you said, the price should be cheaper.
Its cheaper where i live. Around 80$ less.
So that's the RTX 3040 toaster edition :D
Rtx 3030 super
it's not a good time to be a budget gamer AND nvidia fan at the same time. rx 6600 costs around the same in my country and it's a much more powerful GPU.
If you're okay with going with used hardware there are some really great deals out there. 5700xt is the new 580, they go for about 150-170 and blows these cards away- I still have one that I bought new before the shortage/Covid and it still does everything I want. It's a bad time to be buying new though, that is for sure! If nVidia a 1080ti performs about the same, though it costs about 20 more (USD)
Please, could you compare to its actual competitors? All with no power cable needed. Like the RX6400, 1050TI etc please
The rtx 3050 is a prime example of "too little, too late", I pay my respects for those newbies that thought buying one of these brand new for *that* price was the way to go
They should've launched both of these as 3050 and 3050 Ti respectively.
more like 3030 and 3050
3040 and 3030
now that you mentions it tgats true!
rtx 3050 with 6gb and rtx 3050ti for 8gb
or alternatively rtx 3040 since its slower or less core, and its ti variant for more memory and higher bus with same core count and make 3050 with higher core count but less than that 3060 or 4060 with starting vram at 6gb and ti variant with 8gb
With those power constraints they could have just made a much cheaper, more cut down 3030 or something with a higher clock that would have achieved the same performance. They must have had awful yields and this was the only way to slough off the trash. GA107-325 has the identical core configuration as the 8GB GA106-150 OEM model, but about half the TDP and 400Mhz lower clock speed.
I honestly didn't know they still made 30X0 series cards. I thought they'd be all 40X0 now.
They've only just discontinued making the 16 series cards, so I think the 30 cards will be on the go for a bit yet.
I've just built my son a cheap gaming PC with a 4th gen i7 and a 1050Ti and he has a ton of fun gaming on it. Cheap build too at under £200...
Nice :)
The low profile version I can see having a use for tiny case builds and/those with weak power supplies, but apart from that... It's good the option is there, but for the full size one I'm glad I already have a 2060 which looks the much better option. Glad to see you covering it honestly & fairly though!
Power limit the older card to 70 watts and see how they compare at the same power level?
around 50% less power consumption with less than 20% performance cost is not that bad imo
Its weaker than rx 580 and everybody hates rx 580
Nice seeing gpu power in the overlay. Thank you so much! I hope u keep adding that to the next videos
The only time a 3050 is worth it is if it’s below $150. I scored a Gaming X 8GB version off the local market for $130, box and all, barely used, and it’s in my friend’s rig who uses a 1080p 75Hz monitor and does some light production work.
It’s almost like having more power gives you better performance, I am shocked, keep up the great work sir
You should test this vs a low tdp 1650 to show the performance bump for the folk this is actually useful for. Also maybe give an idea of what the baseline cpu would bevto pair with this.
It's aimed at the higher powered ex-business PCs and the Acer Aspire XC range of PCs. It'd be a reasonable upgrade from a GTX 1650 LP 4Gb, like the one I have in an XC 885. I can run Train Sim World 4 @1440p with ~40fps so it's not yet obsolete.
The most ridiculous part of these "budget" cards is that you can't even use them to spruce up your old desktops. The reduced lanes will cripple the card in an older PCIe slot.
that is true
the goal for these gpus is be display adapters or htpc or itx builds focused on low power consumption
This might end up in a lot of OEM systems.
It's wild that the OG 3050 and the 3070 Ti have the same amount of VRAM.
Ever do any voltage tuning? I wonder if a good undervolt on the 8 GB card could make it as thrifty as the 6 GB card without a loss in frames per second. Might help somebody with a sketchy GPU power adapter setup.
Good performance per watt, which also means less heat. Could see a 3050 6gb make a bit of sense in a 4 liter tiny sff case if you need things quiet. That said, I'm much more happy with my 4060 performance in one of those, and just use some headphones if I'm playing something where I am bothered by the moderate fan noise.
Mine RTX 3050 is 1 times bigger than that how is that possible i don't get it?
Mine is ASUS Nvidia RTX3050 8GB
@@dodgedemonsrtx Still not bad at all, 8GB really quite big. 👍🏻
Awesome video... And completely agree the 3040 at £99 would be acceptable
I wonder what will happen if you lower the TDP of the 3050/8 to match the value of the 6-gig card? And perhaps also apply some undervolting. I suppose, the older model should still win though, due to higher core count and memory bandwidth
I have both 3050's in ASUS dual fan guise. The 6gb I have paired with a Ryzen 5 1600 and it works very well. However, what I did notice is the sound coming from the card. It's louder than the 8gb, to the point that I've used MSI Afterburner to reduce the fan speed from 68% to 30-40%. Did you notice any differences in card noise?
That would depend on which manufacturer your card is. Different AIB manufacturers have choice of different fans, with various levels of "coil whine"
He has a palit card and an Asus card. If you don't have those exact same cards, then comparing them with his cards is pointless.
Different OEMs put different parts in their products. You can't just compare the 3050 8gb with the 3050 6gb unless your cards are from the same manufacturer.
I have been wanting this video for a long time, but for some reason I could never find a direct comparison.
That's crazy because it was literally the main comparison I was interested in, like of course it makes sense to test it against something at a closer price point, but we already know the 6gb is going to be a massive disappointment anyways, so why not at least makethe comparison mildly entertaining.
If you actually want a 3050 6gb you have an incredibly specific usefase in mind, and there's probably only two cards even worth thinking about for it, (This and the A380 meet some very specific "board powered, very limited implementation of modern technology" card niche) so there really isn't much point in comparing it on a price/performance level where it will lose to the vast majority of other cards.
It'd be interesting to see how this compares to other cards which don't require supplemental power. The newer 3050 seems like a good pick for an office prebuilt with a dodgy power supply upgrade.
There are a few laptops that I was interested in. They have RTX 2050 or RTX 3050, both have less ram at 4Gb. Could you consider making a video where the ram usage is less than 4GB?
the 3050 is just a worse 1660.
I'm guessing this is more like what the 750ti(the later pci-e powered only version) was to the 1000 series than it is a to a (non pci-e powered) 1050ti? Is their a 1050ti equivalent in the 3000 or 4000 series? I can't think of a more powerful 3000 or 4000 only pci-e powered GPU 🤔
There are low power version of rtx2060 and rtx4060 - A2000 and A4000.
Congrats for one of the best gaming content on RUclips, specially coming from a brazilian, which resides on a dreadful market. You always have the most realistic and best analysis on budget components, without spitting shit about cheaper parts, but bringing the best performance per money results. Really helpful!
Wasn’t the 1660 Super $230 at release 5 years ago? Kind of wild that we basically haven’t gotten any improvement in this price tier this whole time from nvidia.
My local university surplus is selling Dell Optiplex with 8th and 9th i5s in them. The 3050 6gb would make for a perfect budget build with one of them.
Nice to see how well it handles Fallout 4. What a difference in performance compared to Starfield. I haven’t seen the new show since I don’t have Prime but I’ve been a fan of Fallout since 3 and have Fallout posters on my wall in my gaming room.
I think this is probably one of those products that will have a massive price drop in the future. It's also very common to see this on the cheaper phones' market, they are always released at a really high price that doesn't really make that much sense, but it quickly drops to be in line with the price of the older models, but with some technological advancement that actually makes it worth it.
I just don't understand why the performance gap between the two is so big even though they still share the same 3050 name. But I think the 6gb model consuming about half the power and running also 10°c colder is a really good thing.
I need to examine the pricing. I'd need to see the prices to gauge the pro/con. There is a whole bunch of room for cheap mid range cards to fill if done right.
This GPU should be priced to replace the GT710 with a small price premium at around $99USD or similar imo. These should also be either ITX or low profile itx gpus as well.
The 6GB card's performance is unbelievably good, considering it's running on Motherboard-provided power only. The 8 GB card is not performing good enough, considering it is drawing nearly double the power of the 6GB one.
gtx 750, 750ti, 1050, 1050ti, 1650 were best seller considering you can add it in a grandma pc with a bad psu lol, not only for this reason ofc but buy a 60dollars, euros gtx 1050ti 4gb witch can run currently almost every games isn t a bad choice instead buy a 600 gaming pc. If u needn't 1080p 60fps to have fun lol. Maybe it ll be same here :) rx 6400 and arc a380 do nice the job but maybe this thing ll perform better :)
The 4050 mobile hangs out with the 3050 8gb but at only 50 watts. Slap that bad boy on a pcb and gimme that thing for budget builds!
The only viable gaming use case for the 3050 6GB is in OEM PC with no 6 or 8 pin power available. Outside of that, it's a super hard pass IMO.
Try to compare 3050 6GB vs 1660 Ti 6GB
The GTX1660Ti ties with the RTX3050 8GB, or at least they did when 3050 was released.
I've tried both, the 1660-Ti is on par with the 8GB.
As Tom from @MooresLawIsDead says it: There are no bad products, just bad pricing.
I paired this card (6gb) with a r5 5500 and 16gb ddr4 for under $350 for my sister and it does great for everything she does!
no way i have 3050 8gb vram asus daul and its good i dont think 3050 6gb is good for gaming high graphics card its like gtx 1650 ti same as rtx 3050 6gb
I remember when the GTX 1050 and 1050 ti we're around still. Exceptional cards and for a pretty cheap price. Now a days you have so many cards with the largest range of pricing options available, it makes you wonder why bother with 50 cards anymore and go strictly 60 and up. Not saying there isn't a place for these cards but when you consider you can get the 3060 and 4060 for $300 or a little more it makes you wonder.
I owned gtx 1060 3GB from 2018 to late 2023, and it wasn't that bad compared to 1060 6GB at launch and till long time till games became vram hungry more and more, but was good enough for 230$ when crypto made all other gpus price hike back then, but today its bad overall in this same naming gpus (btw i still have 1060 3GB collecting dust, only keeping it for troubleshooting if something happens to my 6700 XT cause now my ryzen cpu doesn't have igpu)
Why compare it to rtx3050 8gb? It’s suppose to replace gtx1650
I love this guys videos. Allways starts off outside really bright and colourful and interesting.
Hey, really enjoying your Vidoes. I am using the RTX 3050 6G in a sleeper build for LAN-Parties.
Just wondering, have you noticed that with the current AMD drivers 24.x.x you cant play Fallout NV anymore. Its strait crashing when you want to load or start a game. Would love the see a video about it. Much love.
The only scenario when getting 3050 6GB makes sense is if you are upgrading old office PC, so you could "game" on it, or if you are making small ITX build that does have low power budget (example: has external laptop psu etc). Power supply only from PCIe slot with no other power connectors is the only reason one would want to buy this GPU, cuz it is still better than AMD APUs, especially if you compare APU + Expensive fast RAM vs CPU + 3050 GPU. Also, this GPU only makes sense in Low Profile variant.
If the price was right, it would make sense as an upgrade for my old Dell workstation that doesn't have any GPU power connectors, currently using a GTX 1650. Budget AMD cards don't use all the PCI lanes so they're no good in older systems and Intel more or less requires resizeable bar so I can't use them either. My daughters just got into Minecraft so I can see 1080p with ray tracing and some DLSS working nicely there. I got my 1650 from CeX for around £80 so it's gonna be a while before the upgrade becomes worth it.
fwiw, the Gigabyte full height RTX 3050 6GB is currently £139 at Currys/Amazon in the UK. 20% cheaper than other cards with same chipset.
The big thing about this is that it smokes the previous reigning champion budget low profile graphics card the GTX 1650. It also smokes it's closest low profile competitor the RX 6400. It also trades blows with the previous full on full stop champ of low profile no aux power the A2000. And though the A4000 smokes it, the A4000 is also like $800. And the 4060 requires aux power and is more than twice the price. The niche is small but it is here for the 6gb 3050.
I'd like to see how different the RTX 3050 6 GB performs in PCIe 3.0. Considering this newer model only comes with 8 lanes, it should be much worse.
G'day Random,
After seeing the first few comparisons with the Difference at least 15% to exceeding 20%, how confusing it is now as some retailers are not highlighting the 6GB in the title & will be on the 2nd Hand Market in the future for the same reason, I too was thinking as it is too late to change the 8GB to 3050Ti this should have been a RTX3040/3040Ti.
Don't know why the nVIDIA Naming Team didn't go with 3050Ti for the Higher Cuda Count 8GB at launch as the 3050 OEM had the same Cuda count as this 6GB & they were launched on the same day.
I’d like to see a comparison with the rx 6400 because that card also doesn’t use any external PCIe supplemental power and just runs off the 75 watts from the motherboard slot.
Rx 6400 has a 53w tdp
The 3050 6GB is much better, on top of raw performance it has video encoder, more VRAM and twice the PCIe lanes compared to the RX6400 and RX6500XT.
I still see myself buying the 6gb over the 8gb for the lack of power connector alone. It's really the only upside but at least it can turn a i7 8700 office pc into a 1080p rig for kinda cheap I guess
Curious if an undervolt and rising the power limit from 70w to 75w would allow the 3050 6GB to reach higher speeds and close the gap a bit.
The 3050 6Gb always seemed to be around 200MHz slower that probably didnt help it at all
Power limits. The 6 GB tops at like 70W while the 8GB goes past 120W. No more juice left. If my 3060 is anything to go by, it should boost a bit higher with a well set undervolt and come closer to the 8GB version.
I own 3050 8gb already
I bought mine as 2nd hand form CeX at 130 quid a year ago.
Only reason - Looking for cheap card with CUDA cores to increase speed of video editing software as my old AMD card has none of these. And 3050 also consume half of power...
I not gaming on this card anyway.
So, low power, 130 quid, video editing "accererator" is good deal.
It's surprisingly power efficient, the older card uses 50% more power in most cases for just 20% more performance.
I'd be very interested in seeing a 6GB gpu comparison video. a 3050, 2060, and RX 5600XT. Optionally, a 1660Ti.
Would like to see more videos on AMD cards, many of them are much better price to performance wise compared to their Nvidia counterparts. The 3050 is absolutely not worth it at all where i live cause you can find brand new 6650XT's for similar or lower price, and on the used market you can find 6800XT's for even lower.
I guess it depends on your needs and the price you find it.
If you are like me with a GTX860M (yes I know it's a laptop), even this GPU will run circles around it. Still, if you play older games and you find it no more than 150 euros, then it could work for you. Plus it would be a nice bump in other things than gaming, like video encoding etc.
Honestly if it can draw its power from the m/b then this occupies a unique place. Consider it an upgrade from the low power 1650 and it looks a lot better. Dell optiplexs can be supercharged with this
They drop $50 of the price of the 8gb model and $65 off the gb model and the price/perf might be there for media center/email pc with light gaming abilities. But at these prices you can get an rx 6600 that's better than both (the 8gb model could be fairly close in RT, but is that really relevant at this power level?)
Would this be a worth while upgrade over my current GtX 1050ti?
Massive props for making this video as a way of keeping folks informed. The original 3050 was laughably bad given the sort of prices being asked for them, even without considering the AMD competitors which aside from being cheaper would literally smoke the 3050. It's one thing to have a 1050 Ti in the same ballpark price of something like a RX570 despite the latter also outperforming the former but those GPUs coexisted in an age were GPU pricing wasn't as outrageous as we've currently seen. The original 3050 without being gimped and having the VRAM buffer cutdown was bad enough, imagine having a gimped version of an already meh product... If the original 3050 was a 180 dollar card it would actually have been decent, oddly enough. But Nvidia being Nvidia that was never going to happen.
I like 3050 6g. It allows my shitty HP tower with proprietary mobo and psu to do crazy stuff such as animate with blender.
I'm still thinking of buying a Radeon RX6600 non-xt... would be interesting to see how that GPU compares to these.
Hey I think it would be interesting if you reviewed the palit silent 3050
Nvidia should have called the RTX 3050 6GB an RTX 3040 or RTX 4040, but that would make too much sense. The 'new' RTX 3050 has use cases for lower power and/or low-profile needs.
Some other people suggested that 6GB version also called "RTX 3040". But in reality, they didn't care at all.
So the 3050 6GB is 3/4s of the 3050 8GB wafer which is 2/3rds of the 3060 wafer which is 3/4s of the 3070 wafer, with the clocks turned down. I'd buy a used 2060 over both of these.
if there is a healthy second hand market where you live and power consumption is not a problem, i agree with your logic
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The 2060 is a 160W part. 😉
@@darthwiizius that is alot for a person who qants a 70 watts part, keep that in mind
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Fair point.
To me the 3050 6G only makes sense in two scenarios: with the Palit KalmX version so you have a totally quiet card or with low-power PCs you can use the 6G model without additional PCIe power.
I'd still have preferred a name like 3040. It wouldn't have been the first x40-class card.
The 3050 6G is pretty impressive when it comes to efficiency though. You're losing about 20% of the performance but the power consumption is falling much more.
I've got weird feelings that I see object textures from Skyrim in Starfield ;D Especialy stone walls.
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curious how far the 6Gb 3050 can pushed considering the clocks on it are way lower
Low power GPUs are luxury items, at least on what I see after all of these years of GPU releases. 1650 didn't have the best price for a low power GPU when it initially launched. 1050 Ti was the last best low power at launch and idk why they didn't follow up its success.
They remind me of the 1060 6gb and the 1060 3gb. I lucked out and scored a gaming laptop from MC for $360 (actually snagged 2 as I knew my adult son would want it) and it has the 3050 8gb and i5 11400H with 16gb ram. For that money, it was a big score.
Doesn't seem like a 'bad card' per-se, reduced performance balanced with reduced power consumption, heat, form-factor, and per-unit cost, just might not be as good value as the nvidia marketing team would like us to think - the con is mostly with the name/number, not the card itself which seems perfectly respectable.
I don't think that it's a bad card, but the price is too high (especially compared to the 8GB one) and it really angers me that it's also called a 3050 even though it's significantly worse than the 3050 8GB across the board (even in scenarios where you don't use more than 6GB of vram). Same as the 3060 8GB/12GB. To be honest I expected nothing better from Nvidia since they've done this kinda misleading crap plenty times in the past.
"Yes we have this car model. You can get it with 3 or with 5 doors. I could also tell you that the three-door-version has a weaker engine, lower top speed, worse headlights, smaller tires and the range on one full tank of gas is less - but I am Nvidia and so I coose not to. And it's nearly the same price because of course it is and we only put the different amount of doors in the otherwise exact same name."
Can you compare these 2 3050’s vs the RTX 2060 in War Thunder at 1440p Maximum preset? I had an RTX 2070 laptop that was more akin to a Desktop 2060 in performance. When I was having no issues before the GPU died after 3 years of daily gaming at 95°C, I could easily run 1440p with frame rates between 80-120 FPS. I’d assume both 3050’s would run War Thunder at the same preset at 120+ FPS.
The price might throw people off tbh. Unless its get cheaper anytime soon...
I'd like to see some more videos around used hardware, because there is a distinct lack of it from UK RUclipsrs.
Yeah the market here is just terrible though. Too much variation.
not everyone chase the performance, someone like me need low power gpu, to reduce the electricty bill, this rtx mybe for someone like me. low or med setting is fine as long the game run smoothly. if u see it only need 70watt to run without power cable, it is understanble they need to cut so the gpu can run smootly without needing much power
We want a comparison between the 3050 6G vs GTX 1660 ti.
man if they would have just called this card a 3030 and priced it at $120-$140 this card could have actually been something of note
New dell optiplex with 13th gen intel cpu's have weaker psu's than older optiplexes with 6th gen intel. This makes the 3050 6gb ideal while the old method of 2x sata to 1x 8pin in new optiplex won't work anymore
6gb 3050 is what a $99-115 card should be in 2024. Budget GPU that can actually perform somewhat, so long as you don't demand above 1080/60/medium in most games.
Pricing it where they did is crazy.
this is something like gtx 1060 6gb vs 1060 3gb
how about an undervolt on both and see where that goes
The value will change once current stock sells through, the 6GB will remain at MSRP, the 8GB will become more expensive on the used market.