hes emphasising this because, crossfiter focus too much on the shrug, the shrug is something that doesnr need to be mentioned because it is naturally goin to happen when you complete the clean in any fashion, and people in crossfit are told to not use their arms enough, when in fact you use your arms plenty when done properly.
I agree, however people are going to have there own styles of lifting. when it comes to the textbook definition of the mechanics for each movement, it needs to be mentioned that the info that is given to you is generalized not personalized. The same thing goes for when a coach is teaching larger audiences for example Dmitry here! He gives more generalized directions to the class but when he talks one on one with each athlete he dives in to there specific needs, whether or not that includes emphasizing the shrug or arm involvement. To help your understanding I would say that you were taught the way you where is because it was based more on you personal faults and where you need to improve for ex. Your upper body motions regarding the shrug and arm involvement
Thank you for sharing this! I have watched many videos and learned from several coaches but none explained this as well as Mr. Klokov, very simple to understand.
No need for a translator any more. Klokov has learnt more English than I have guitar melodies since he first started doing these tours. And they say you absorb stuff better when you're younger...
@@rowanhealy its not that he is trying to say that klokov is dedicated to the intricacies of teaching too. He is just trying to imply that klokov is so passionate he learnt a new language to help more people
Guess this is the difference between a bonafide champion showing you something vs youtube coaches... Easily the best explanation of the technique required. I’ve only recently added high pulls to my shoulder day, so watching this tutorial was priceless for me. Thanks for posting 👍🏻
@@jaeggerhead yeah mate, not massive gains but a noticable difference over a few weeks. I’m not a big dude, 79kgs, but the biggest difference I would say is that 4 weeks ago my trap was like a triangle that came down halfway along my shoulder, now my trap extends out to the edge of my shoulder. I’m happy, pulling 60kg for 8 and 90kg for 1 at the moment. What about you? You giving them a go?
@@byza101 That's awesome dude, and those numbers are impressive too. I'm not quite there yet, since high pulls exposed a weakness in my scapula and I have to work on that before I up the weights. But still, my shoulders, traps and upper back have gotten way thicker. Throw in some direct neck work and you'll look like a beast! We're the same weight btw :D
so while classic snatch, the bar should hit the hip area or ( high thigh) and that generate the speed with u exteding on ur heels ? ,, i've always seen that the lifter actually hit( kicks) the bar
Bar speed is generated from the first and second pull and then contact and your body goes on toes as a result of upwards momentum generating from those 3 points.
bcz when you have a lot of weight you cant lift it more than that, its humanly impossible, your elbows will start going backwards . you will start to "lift" the bar with your wrist , but that actually is not lifting aymore bcz the bar will loose inertia more than you can lift it with your wrist and forearms so from there you will decresea the speed most of the time the bar will actually stop right there. Most of the power comes from your legs/hips, and then traps and some arms. When the bar reaches your chest you have to go under the bar, not to bring the bar over you.
there are many ways to do things. Klokov is teaching the way he was taught by his coach. This is how the Russians do it. The Chinese have different training styles. The French have different training styles. you have to chose which one to believe or find your own style. I like to use a mixture of Russian and Chinese training methods.
Jakob Richloow STHLMstrength He also mentions it staying closer to the body that way. When the bar gets higher his elbows start to drift backwards and the bar goes forward a bit, which he says is "no good".
I'm having trouble following this... why no shrug? aren't we supposed to shrug in these movements? If so, what would be the point of practicing a clean/snatch pull by pulling from elbow flexion? it wouldn't carryiover to the final shrug "product". What am I missing?
Remember that this is only ONE of many systems, some other teaches the active shrug. Though, during the seminar we figured out that what Klokov meant was that he didnt want an active shrug, but a shrug that comes naturaly from the arm/elbow-pull.
in shrugging there is lot more chance of weight staying in front rather in upright position as you can see in video . Then why shrug ? see buddy shrugging is taught for coordination so that during the lift you pull it from shoulder followed by bent elbow.shrugging is mainly used in clean for shoulder movement . pulling the weight makes lift much more easier you try out yourelf and you will see you will rarely miss the lift . :)
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He explained the Snatch HP better than most channels here on RUclips. Very thorough.
Indeed.
Olympic Gold medal winner !
What do you expect?
Potatoes soup
Yep, makes sense
what's snatch HP? hip pocket? what's his full name? I wanna look him up, he is great
@@dodgethehell high pull
3:10 his imitations of failure are absolutely hilarious.
Best explanation of high pull on youtube without a doubt!
hes emphasising this because, crossfiter focus too much on the shrug, the shrug is something that doesnr need to be mentioned because it is naturally goin to happen when you complete the clean in any fashion, and people in crossfit are told to not use their arms enough, when in fact you use your arms plenty when done properly.
Good answer Ivan, yes that was my interpretation too!
I agree, however people are going to have there own styles of lifting. when it comes to the textbook definition of the mechanics for each movement, it needs to be mentioned that the info that is given to you is generalized not personalized. The same thing goes for when a coach is teaching larger audiences for example Dmitry here! He gives more generalized directions to the class but when he talks one on one with each athlete he dives in to there specific needs, whether or not that includes emphasizing the shrug or arm involvement. To help your understanding I would say that you were taught the way you where is because it was based more on you personal faults and where you need to improve for ex. Your upper body motions regarding the shrug and arm involvement
Thank you for sharing this! I have watched many videos and learned from several coaches but none explained this as well as Mr. Klokov, very simple to understand.
No need for a translator any more. Klokov has learnt more English than I have guitar melodies since he first started doing these tours. And they say you absorb stuff better when you're younger...
You do, it doesn't mean you cannot learn as an adult. I would imagine he is an incredibly disciplined man..
@@rowanhealy its not that he is trying to say that klokov is dedicated to the intricacies of teaching too. He is just trying to imply that klokov is so passionate he learnt a new language to help more people
he actually speaks good english now ;)
I hit my balls with the bar everytime I try this exercise 😅😩
Maby your balls are too big? ;-) On a serious note though, you should try hitting either lower or higher then.
Nice vdo ..
10 years complete my lifting
First time I know how to do pull
Guess this is the difference between a bonafide champion showing you something vs youtube coaches... Easily the best explanation of the technique required. I’ve only recently added high pulls to my shoulder day, so watching this tutorial was priceless for me. Thanks for posting 👍🏻
Are you making all kinds of gains now? :D snatch grip high pulls are great for upper back hypertrophy
@@jaeggerhead yeah mate, not massive gains but a noticable difference over a few weeks. I’m not a big dude, 79kgs, but the biggest difference I would say is that 4 weeks ago my trap was like a triangle that came down halfway along my shoulder, now my trap extends out to the edge of my shoulder. I’m happy, pulling 60kg for 8 and 90kg for 1 at the moment. What about you? You giving them a go?
@@byza101 That's awesome dude, and those numbers are impressive too. I'm not quite there yet, since high pulls exposed a weakness in my scapula and I have to work on that before I up the weights. But still, my shoulders, traps and upper back have gotten way thicker. Throw in some direct neck work and you'll look like a beast! We're the same weight btw :D
This stuff is gold. Thanks for posting
No problem. Enjoy! :-)
Thankyou for sharing this video, ❤
Make snatch, not sex and war.)
Imagine being at one of these seminars! Maybe I will get to attend one someday!!
Yes it was pretty cool to see the guy in person and i also learned alot. We are´nt really spoiled with quality weightlifting seminars in Sweden... :-)
I understand this Far Better!...the Shrug kicks-in after the Arms bring the weight up, anyway!
Awesome tips! Thank you!
4:27 - what about power hang snatch? The bar has to move a meter higher when I go only to a quarter squat.
He loves dropping that bar lol good info though !
so while classic snatch, the bar should hit the hip area or ( high thigh) and that generate the speed with u exteding on ur heels ? ,, i've always seen that the lifter actually hit( kicks) the bar
Bar speed is generated from the first and second pull and then contact and your body goes on toes as a result of upwards momentum generating from those 3 points.
What was he saying the reason is for making contact three times before the pull? Is it to recognize where you should be making contact?
cmergen1404 Exactly, emphasizing the position at contact and i guess also learning how to use the lats to drive the bar into the body.
Full video link?
in the end he said for girls just bar and boys max. 50 kilos am i right ?
Yep that's what he said
No, he says 30, sounds something like firty because of the pronounce.
He's not even using 50 kilos himself for this drill.
youtube auto captions thinks hes speaking russian =)
What to do if doing high pull like that and holding the way for a pause on the top of the lift, gives shoulder pain?
why does Klokov say to not raise the bar above the bottom of the chest? ive always thought the high pull should come below the chin
bcz when you have a lot of weight you cant lift it more than that, its humanly impossible, your elbows will start going backwards . you will start to "lift" the bar with your wrist , but that actually is not lifting aymore bcz the bar will loose inertia more than you can lift it with your wrist and forearms so from there you will decresea the speed most of the time the bar will actually stop right there. Most of the power comes from your legs/hips, and then traps and some arms. When the bar reaches your chest you have to go under the bar, not to bring the bar over you.
okay, so when ive seen the chinese team lift it to their chin, are they using poor form or doing the exercise differently?
Solitary Wolf in exercise? Bcz if you watch it in slow motion I'm pretty sure the bar is not going that hight. Show me the video.
there are many ways to do things. Klokov is teaching the way he was taught by his coach. This is how the Russians do it. The Chinese have different training styles. The French have different training styles. you have to chose which one to believe or find your own style. I like to use a mixture of Russian and Chinese training methods.
@@42kritik14 I train Bugenhagen
Why does he say not to pull higher than lower chest?
UTDMADMAN I think it is because in a full snatch, the bar never travels higher than the chest anyway.
Jakob Richloow STHLMstrength He also mentions it staying closer to the body that way. When the bar gets higher his elbows start to drift backwards and the bar goes forward a bit, which he says is "no good".
I'm having trouble following this... why no shrug? aren't we supposed to shrug in these movements? If so, what would be the point of practicing a clean/snatch pull by pulling from elbow flexion? it wouldn't carryiover to the final shrug "product". What am I missing?
Remember that this is only ONE of many systems, some other teaches the active shrug. Though, during the seminar we figured out that what Klokov meant was that he didnt want an active shrug, but a shrug that comes naturaly from the arm/elbow-pull.
in shrugging there is lot more chance of weight staying in front rather in upright position as you can see in video . Then why shrug ? see buddy shrugging is taught for coordination so that during the lift you pull it from shoulder followed by bent elbow.shrugging is mainly used in clean for shoulder movement . pulling the weight makes lift much more easier you try out yourelf and you will see you will rarely miss the lift . :)
So he says NO SHRUG?
По русски небельдым?
why everything laugh 1.53？
sexual joke
why are they fkn eating during the seminar?
I dunno, cause they´re fkn hungry from training?
I was gonna guess it's because they're hungry but ol dude beat me to it 👆🏾
His HR is 160 after two reps. nice. lol