1991 Alfa Romeo Spider Veloce | Retro Review
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- Опубликовано: 7 мар 2018
- I'm sure many would agree that there would still be a market for a 2-seater drop top with a lot of old school feels. That's what MotorWeek thought way back in '91 when we tested this 1991 Alfa Romeo Spider.
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You see that guy thrash that shifter? Hoooly. Looked like he was trying to mix concrete
Indeed. The mechanical aptitude of a cork.
Lmao that was hilarious thanks
I thought it was going to come off in his hand!
Is it just me or are Americans just a little too rough on things?
They do that all the time it's insane.
Still have my ‘91. Since new. Runs and looks awesome.
I bought mine in '92 and he is still perfect
I drove one in high school back in 96 97. It was my uncles car and he let me have it as an incentive to do better on school etc.. One day came out of class and someone had hit car while i was in school.. Never got it back after that.. Miss that car to this day.. Felt like a million bucks driving to school in it for a year or two. And yes. Ladies all wanted a ride... So much fun:(
I always loved the look and the Italian Alfa heritage but I will never forget seeing one of these on an Alfa showroom floor with the headlight lens surrounds already showing rust.
This thing is awesome, would make one feel like a young Dustin Hoffman driving it. But, easy on the shifter, man. It's delicate!
I love the anti-Alfa knuckle draggers (it's always semi-literates as made obvious by the grammar and style of their posts). From '82 on with the Bosch EFI these cars are dead reliable, especially from '90 with Motronic. I've owned six Spiders and currently have two, an '83 and a '92, 135k and 87k miles respectively. Neither has been rebuilt or restored but both run and look great. Driven regularly but in last three years only thing they've needed is the original clutch master/slave cylinders replaced (age rather than quality issue). Great cars.
I have just finised restoring a 1992 Spider Veloce with an automatic transmission. Love it! So much fun to drive.
Did you do any upgrades to the suspension or brakes?
@@Icychainz881 Yes. Lots. Added slotted, drilled brakes from Centerline. A larger master cyclinder. Changed all the bushings. Added adjustable arms to the front as well as coilovers.
A 1991-1994 Alfa Romeo Spider with an automatic is the only version I would ever consider.
One of the most beautiful cars ever build.
Ive owned 2 1991s. I used them as daily drivers for 11 years. Yes they needed repairs, but thankfully i had an Italian father and son that specialized in them. Good times
I am the second owner of a 1985 Alfa Romeo Spider. As classic Italian cars go, it is very reliable. If you don't know how to turn a wrench, then stick to your mom's Miata. The shifter position is very comfortable once you get used to it. Alfa's have a soul and are a joy to drive.
Long time ago, I owned a 1986 Veloce Spider sold and serviced by Paul Spruell Alfa located in Georgia. He used to race Alfas back in the day and knew them well. My car, having 60k miles, had just received a new set of cylinder liners and piston rings. Spruell demanded the use of Kendall motor oil and nothing else! Overall, the car was reliable and very nice looking. Whereas the Miata had a too-feminine look to it.
I’m so addicted to this series
A pair of retros in one morning? Thank you!
One of my all time favorite roadsters. The Alfa Spider is definitely not the most reliable vehicle on the road but those Italian quirks are part of its charm.
Have owned Alfas for 40 years....Lack of reliability is a myth....Owned many BMW's that were nightmares...Don't drink the German Kool Aid...Hans and Franz are pouring...
@@dinopappous6639 FUN FACT! In Jonestown, the local population actually preferred Flavor Aid, an obscure competing brand.
I've always liked these cars . Just wish they had a bit more power and reliable.
CONGRATULATIONS, DAVID ON YOUR 900TH VIDEO!
Like the creaking noise when turning the steering wheel lol
I've had mine for 20 yrs. love the car. outside of a starter & a few hoses. never had any problems with the car!
I've been thinking about getting one, but scared of Italian issues
LookOutItsCar!!!! Car or mafia ?
I was 22 when this car came out and wished I could afford one, memories.
I own a 1992. i'm restoring it. rebuild the exhaust line and replaced brakes with 4-pistons Wilwood calipers. Suspension will get an Alfaholics upgrade kit next year.
the used spider only cost my 12K CAD, and 5K CAD restoring on it.... and I love to ride it. super responsive, especially on the "60 to 120 kmh" test. Is it perfect? nope. Do i get a lot of bangs for my bycks? yup. I prefer to drive this in the summer than to spend 30K CAD on a new Fiat 124.
+randell gribben and qa1 double adjustable shocks
If I was going to get a roadster in 1991.... I would get this over the Miata any day.
By the time this car was out it was on it's 25th production year, 3rd facelift and quite outdated. Still it marched on to be sold for another 3 years, I don't know many models in the car world that lasted that long.
A friend of mine had a 1988 model. It's not such a terrible car as people paint it. Yes, it is not particularly fast, the interior quality is bad, but the mechanicals are good if you service on time and the car is just great fun, and that is the whole point.
Ma Che Cazz Volvo 240 is the only other example I can think of - and it’s similarly awesome and renowned. Few other cars have such a timeless quality.
exactly if you don't want to get your hands dirty buy something else, every true Alfa owner knows that and is part of the Alfa owning experience
@@VideoAmericanStyle I love classic Alfa Romeo, beautifuls italian classic cars
The gages placement is amusing
I had this car on a poster on my wall when I was a kid. Now I know what it was called! (Either that, or maybe a calendar. Always thought it looked smooth.)
nice review
Bosch electronic fuel injection came about in '82. (Spiders had mechanical fuel injection as early as 1969 according to Wiki). These cars introduced cutting edge tech: 4 wheel disc breaks. Fuel injection. 5 speed all synchromesh gear boxes.
my 1996 miata seems to have the same valve cover, door handles, "tombstone" around the instruments, etc.
Don't forget variable valve timing!
First production car with VVT. It worked very well on my '86 Veloce spider
Just curious, has AutoTempest become a supporter because of the popularity of the retro reviews? I only ask because after I watch some of these videos I find myself going on there and looking for clean examples of the vehicle in question lol.
GO FOR IT EDDIE
1991 Alfa Romeo Spider Veloce | Retro Review (900th VIDEO!)
The Miata's trunk space "problem" can be fixed by removing the passenger seat or adding a $150 tunk mounted luggage rack or a hitch mounted basket. Little did Mazda know that the Miata was also a B1600/B1800 "pickup truck" hahahaha
"Of course you've got some good grillwork there to keep out the ozone. I gotta get this thing up to 95, uh, check out the fluorocarbon output." I.M. Fletcher
Faux Craig Singhouse There’s Fred, won’t he be surprised!
I've always wondered what is the purpose of your staffers grabbing, touching, pulling and pressing every square inch of the interior? The older reviews are even worse. I really enjoy your reviews but I always laugh when I see this happening
I agree with you they are touching prodding and polling on the equipment Too much.. Unfortunately due to the shows somewhat low budget a lot of the staff and test drivers from this early nineties era did Come from broken families, Some from the home for wayward boys and girls and have lengthy prison records, This might have something to do with all the unnecessary molesting and Squeezing of these Italian Thoroughbred ladies..
Every time someone says this car is crap, someone else seduces a girl and gets laid in this car!
MafiosoItaliano458 are there any left for people to get laid in? I'm pretty sure they're all in scrapyards by now 😂
Passthedutch 1977 Hahahaha!!!
My dad had one, pre-facelift, and he confirms that it turned heads and was indeed a hit with the ladies, despite the fact that on a bumpy road, one of the doors opened on its own and the exhaust almost fell off. After a particularly fierce storm, there was also a large puddle inside. Still, even more than 30 years later, people he already knew back then still mention the car to him every once in a while. Despite the love affair with the Spider having been short-lived, it definitely left an impression.
Mafioso Italiano every generation of the Spider attracts women no not just old women girls in their 20’s love my car.
@Sergio Aguirre There's an old saying in my country and it goes like this: "We are as old as we feel"! 😉
Every time i see one i think of Chevy Chase in Fletch
WE MADE IT! IT'S THE 900TH VIDEO. I FEEL LIKE CELEBRATING!
Can you guys upload 1995 Toyota Avalon plz
INTERIOR NOISE:
71 dB
1 top notch Award-winning car!
it wins the award for the car that has been pushed by millionaires the most miles ♻️♻️♻️
1991 Alfa Romeo Spider | Retro Review
HERE'S TO THE 900 VIDEOS, 900 FOLLOWERS AND 900 SUBSCRIBERS AND MANY MORE VIDEOS TO COME!
I like.
VIVA L ALFA ROMEO!!!!!!
I guess it's better than the chopped rear-end of the previous design, but it's still far short of the lovely original.
How did a shifter like that ever make it into production?
It’s closer to the steering wheel than a traditional shifter
In the 1960s it was considered fine. But then they didn't change it for THIRTY years.
One the shifter is closer to the steering wheel and the gearbox design goes back to the late 50’s and was the same on the Spider since 1966.
the ep3 honda civic si of the early noughties had a similar shifter...but that vehicle showed the world that the honda of the eighties and early nineties was long gone =\
Tool0GT92 . You get used to the shifter. It isn't for people who want to slam the gears, it is for the person who is looking for a smooth and relaxing drive.
EPA MILEAGE:
22 CITY 30 HIGHWAY
definitly a different time. a year before i was born and i know vehicles.
THE ALFA ROMEO SPIDER IS THE ONE.
There is a marked difference between driving a sports car enthusiastically and abuse. Knowledgeable Alfa drivers operate standard shift boxes with their fingertips and remain in the engine power band!
Its zach from save by the bell
I think this model was on the show for most of the 1990's
It was a floater.
A Quick Look:
ALFA ROMEO SPIDER
IT'S THE 900TH VIDEO CELEBRATION!
I get nauseous just looking at that body roll
BRAKING - 60 MPH:
123 FEET
TEST MILEAGE:
29 MPG
He’s right about the scrap metal with this one.
1:58 AAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!
I see why this was called the European miata
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Got one. It's not fast. Why can't I get rid of it?
I just can't explain.
Pretty sure that they're made on Naboo.
What a slug - the 91 Nissan Sentra SE-R destroyed this so badly in performance metrics.
The Miata killed it. It was a better car in every way, except looks (and that's debatable).
True , but it’s really not a equal comparison .. this chassis and engine was around for 20+ years whereas the Miata was a new car. The Alfa loyal enjoy the experience and feel of the cars. Kind of like Jeep Wrangler owners...or Harley owners. There may be better options , but the loyalist wouldn’t have anything else.
Miata killed this, Miata killed that...I read that all the time. Was the Miata really a mass murderer or did the other cars just suck?
Killed in the USA, as he had a new generation in the rest of the world in 1995.
but mow the spider are worth more money than a miata
This thing seems awful with that auto trans
Miata obliterated this thing.
MrCarGuy20 your mother prefer Alfa guys, communist gay
I had both back then. I loved the Miata with my head and the Alfa with my heart. The Alfa became a maintenance nightmare eventually and I sold it and moved on to a Porsche Boxster.
First gen Miatas are still running on the road with glee. Meanwhile most Spyders seem to have been junked or rotting away or stuck in a garage with the owner in fear of driving it lest it breaks again.
B-Wulf cars are not for you
+austinmini1275 Boxsters can be even more painful to repair!
Tarés les mecs avec le levier de vitesse..ils respectent vraiment rien.on voit qu ils en ont rien a f..Et ça se dit journaliste auto?vraiment zero!!Pauvres types..
And it comes with a tow truck
Americans and automatics. EUGH
Miata makes all others obsolete
These were such awful pieces of shit that I've spoken to someone who was an Alfa Romeo car salesman who told me that if they had 20 of these on the lot four or five would break down on the test drive. Alfa Romeo was eventually run out of the country because of its horrible reputation. Surprisingly there back and if you read Consumer Reports their Alfa Romeo giulia broke down the first week they got it LOL
Kip Paseo now they're building Dodge vehicles. Apparently they're not doing well either lol.
so, the first Alfa's were imported into the States in 1956, it took nearly 40 years for the company 'to be run out of the country' ... way to go 'MURICA!' I think this year is the 50th anniversary of the world not giving a shit about American cars, I mean they are so garbage the only other market they can sell them in is China! :D I remember an episode of the Sopranos where lots of cars were stolen while owners were at a wedding, when the crime was discovered someone shouted 'they left the American ones' XD
What a clueless fool. Alfa was never ‘run’ out of the country the Spider was successful in sales and met its sales goal so did the 164. The 916 GTV and Spider had great reviews by the US journalists in 1995 it was going to be imported as it passed all Federal standards… until Fiat at the last minute decided that it was supposedly going to cost an extra million and pulled the plug for no good reason typical of Fiat to do as they had done the same thing to many other brands they’d bought over the years. The Giulia was also a completely new car that still has bugs to work out as all first year of production cars… journalists also abuse the hell out of the test cars plus citing Consumer Reports is probably the worst source for car reviews.
Jimmy Grant Italy is known for labour problems.
Frank Denardo yeah they sure did my dad replaced the entire wiring harness in a brand new spider after someone at the factory deliberately stuck a screw in the wiring harness behind the dash which caused the car to fill with smoke while on the lot.
Worlds ugliest wheels.
To be a 1991 that thing looks like a piece of junk. Well I mean it is an Alpha but I mean even worse junk. Funny when I think back I think of the 90s and being so much more high tech lol.
Daehawk English version of your comment please
You do not get this car, do you. Cannot even spel it correctly. Go back to driving your boring Micra.
ALFA
If you can't even spell Alfa it's probably best not commenting 😀
I have to say this also is the worst cringiest review page on RUclips. Man these old days were so fucked.